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Hi techies!

>>103236781
wow you r very beautiful recruiter, do you sponsor h1b?

Do you guys sell your stock options as soon as they vest or not? This run up in stock prices can't keep going forever so I am leaning towards selling

>>103236869
Depends on what you want to do. At the very least it's probably good idea to diversify rather than only holding your company's stock.

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>>103236869
just sell half or something. all the money is in the stock market these days so even if you sell you'd want to just buy other stocks with it.

>>103236869
you are probably best off selling. even if you think they are gonna moon, like for example if trump gov decides to induce hyperinflation to pay off debnts, then you can rebuy them

putting your money into bonds or S&P500 is probably the safest bet right now. i don't think the american gov is going to let either of those come down because it would be pandemonium

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new major version of rider is out and its free now.

>>103236762
no worries. It's good to see another take and I'm appreciative for any outlook. kinda new in the whole dev scene and it feels so hard to get shit done.

I'm talking more about this loop:
>do proof of concept
>create in test environment
>demo with stakeholders test
>?????????????????
>???????????????
>boss asks me for update
>stakeholders still testing and don't want to push to prod (always have something they want added or removed)
>tell boss
>"okay try to add to it and make sure they're happy before we push to prod"
>rinse and repeat

I'm just weird how the stakeholders are either too handholdy or too flakey to give a definite answer so I can push to prod and it's frustrating me.

plus i always feel like i'm playing 5d chess in my head with all the pieces going "what if my boss actually wants me to stall?", "what if the stakeholders don't want this feature and this is just for the sake of saying to the higher ups we're "trying""
stuff like that

How do you deal with getting rejected from a an interview, me and the person who interviewed me were really getting along, I answered all their questions right and the next day, I get a rejection email. Its hurts.

This industry is so fucking gay. Imagine asking an accountant if they work on side projects for free/fun

>>103237008
they were never hiring, or if they were hiring they already had a guy in mind
they just had to pretend to for legal/business reasons
just take it as free practice and free knowledge of their stack/problem/solution
basically every interview you should be mining knowledge from the companies and hoarding it for yourself

>>103236781
Hi trannies!

I'm still remote for now, but I'm certain that I'll be asked to RTO by the end of next year. Too bad. Best five years of my life.

>>103237008
Accept that we live in a fake economy where interviews primarily exist so companies can say there are no qualified citizens and they need to import a jeet slave for a tenth the pay

>>103236824
You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people say you're a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.

Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of forum posts have allowed programmers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with AI generated tech buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at a tech company, they'll turn tail and bolt the second they find out that you haven't completed any non school related projects.

You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a "proprietary test framework" so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence where all you did was update the readme over and over, and that the core of your software is an open source project which you're shamelessly profiting off.

Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a google gift card, a spoofed business phone number, and start scamming old people into redeeming.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

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man this auto complete in rider is so nice.

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WFH people really do be out here pretending to work all day kek

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>>103237023
Also, code trannies have automated their own roles by working for free on open sores projects, which Sam Jewman and other AI bros stole to train their LLMs and make code trannies obsolete, kek.

>NDA so strict I'm not allowed to have the company on my cv or anywhere publicly

It's a literally who crypto platform, wtf

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>>103237328
no i act as if im already retired.

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>>103237037
IDK where you are in the world but it's wild how real this seemingly is around the world. Reached peak "they're not hiding it anymore" when they said they needed them to pick fruit "because the locals wouldn't."

>>103237498
based. open-source code should be illegal. it's not safe.

>>103237037
too fucking true

>>103237008
There are a million reasons you can get rejected that have nothing to do with you, or were just a stroke of bad luck.
>another candidate asked for less money
>another candidate was overqualified
>another candidate has a specific skill the company thinks is relevant
>the budget changed at some point in the interview process and the role got rescinded
>the company was never actually hiring
etc.

It's also possible every single person gave you a thumbs up and really liked you, but someone else in the process (department head, CTO, HR, etc.) who never spoke to you at all gave it a no. I've been on the inside of these interviews many times and sometimes there's grumbling from the tech team because someone else butts in and says "no" to a candidate we all thought would be great.

If you're worried you fucked up the interview somehow you can always ask for feedback. There's no guarantee they'll reply, but if they don't, it's more likely there's a reason they can't say (like one of the above) and it had nothing to do with you. And in any case, all you can do is keep applying to other places. I try not to get too attached to any specific job postings because there's always bullshit that can keep it from happening that's not worth beating myself up over.

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my coworker i hate has sent me like 20 dms in the past day.

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>MSP we are onboarding says an Azure region we wanted doesn't have enough cpus for 3 tiny vms we want them to manage that host shitty business apps that offer no automation and takes ton of time managing
>Tell them they need to do a quota request
>They say not possible and basically the entire region is out of cpus
>Check our subscription and there is a ton of availability
These are the SMEs our CIO heavily advocated for and dropped a ton of money on btw.

>>103238022
sorry

>>103237534
and you signed that

>>103238022
Mine does that AND sits with me at lunch

Naruto is so fucking good, why was shipuuden so bad?

>>103239211
the manga up until the exams was perfect

>>103237027
>I'm still remote for now, but I'm certain that I'll be asked to RTO by the end of next year. Too bad. Best five years of my life.
I'd just take constructive dismissal unemployment and look for another

remote really is that kino

I like RTO.
>feel less imposter
>feel less distracted
>more food choices
>can stretch my legs and not get nervous about missing calls
>bruh i'll just go on my fucking phone if i need a downtime. doesn't matter
>easier to get hold of people and ask questions

>>103239393
This only works if your commute is less than 20mins.

>>103239407
i have an hour commute but it's all on train and it just grants me some time for some actual reading which is nice. make the best out of your marbles i guess.

Would you move to the middle of nowhere for a good paying job? Feel like I'd be trading my 1% chance of getting a gf to a 0% chance but I could save a ton of money

>>103239393
Agreed. I hate sitting at home all day and working from my own home, the same place I relax.

>>103239393
Nice try, boss, not coming in

>>103239556
I'd be happy to live on a boat in northern Maine. Or in an abandoned lighthouse or something.

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>>103239393
>cope
>cope
>cope
>cope
>cope
>cope

>>103239821
Based

>>103239393
I like WFH
>only redditcucks unironically believe le sus impostor amogus meme
>feel less distracted: no retards having loud video calls on le open plan office
>more food choices: literally get anything from the fridge, delivery or the supermarket next door
>can stretch my legs: there's my good office chair, my couch, my bed or the floor
>bruh i'll just go on my fucking phone if i need a downtime. doesn't matter (literally the same)
>ask people questions on slack, if they don't reply i do nothing and blame them next day on the standup
Never returning to your sunk cost """investment""", kike.

I've been working from home since 2019. If they make me go back to the office I'm goign to either quit or kill myself. Never fucking again

>>103236736
is possible to walk there?

>>103239977
>ask people questions on slack, if they don't reply i do nothing and blame them next day on the standup
based

I'm resigning tomorrow

>>103240089
Good luck anon, I resigned yesterday and it felt great.

Now that I'm in my 30s where friendship and love has become more difficult, the salary of a good tech job is what keeps me going

>>103239393
Sorry Amazon but your RTO mandate is still sickening

>>103239770
Ugh yeah I hate being able to work from home, I wish they would bring us all back into the office

>>103240264
>>103240089
You both had jobs set up before you resigned
Right?

>>103240326
Yeah but I'm not starting until next year so I've got free time for once.

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going through 7 year old nigger code this week. Kill me

>>103240326
Nope

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>>103240420

>>103239353
>just
The universal sign that you're about to read a post from a complete moron that has no clue what he's talking about.

I don't have impostor syndrome, I know Imtan impostor
I literally do nothing and it's driving me crazy

>>103239393
Hybrid is supreme. I go in only when I must.
Though now that I have a kid I may be forced to RTO just so I can try to focus for more than 20 minutes at a time.
Boss catches me slacking off? No one cares as long as the work is done, which I can get back to at any time.
Way worse to get caught by the wife with your kid on her hip.

>>103240032
That depends?
Do you have legs?
Do they work?
Are you morbidly obese?

>>103240742
Damn, did Tiktok teach you to write like that? We can read paragraphs, or at least people older than 18 can read paragraphs. No need to hit Enter every two sentences.

>first job after uni
>bs in math
>whole ass internship with company
>they throw me in as platform engineer
>95k
bros how OVER is big tech....
I thought we were supposed to be making like twice this after graduation. The work they have for me isn't even hard, you could teach a high school graduate to do this stuff. I genuinely do not know if they were trying to insult me or not with this offer, looking online it seems this is really the going rate.... at least there is hope and space to pivot towards more interesting positions later on, or so I've been told...

>>103240900
$95k for your first job out of college is great unless you're working FAGMAN or living in the Bay Area. I started at $70k in 2016 and with inflation $95k is still higher.

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>IT wants to install computrace on my work machine because I'm taking it on a plane
is it worth fighting this

>>103240900
you thought you were supposed to make 200k out of college? what the fuck man.

>>103240932
I'm in Milwaukee, WI.

>>103240957
I have published in undergraduate journals for computational algebraic geometry with applications towards machine learning, and graduated with pretty high ranking from UW-Madison. The only reason I didn't go to grad school immediately is that I knocked up my girlfriend.

PhD in math 200k starting is like a 15 year old meme, with inflation it should be like 400k starting for a PhD in math, so getting just under 200k to rent my brain seems fair.

>>103240984
>undergrad publications
>200K
wut? that's not an achievement worthy of six figures. and the "computational algebraic geometry" parts makes you look like you're trying too hard. yes, some gay undergrad numerical method has an impact on what is essentially bruteforced applied calculus, who would have fucking guessed?

>I knocked up my girlfriend
please tell us the kid is a girl, so i can fuck it 15 years from now. if it's a boy, abort it please, we don't need more fagboys in this sausage fest of an earth.

>>103240984
you sound like the kind of guy who if i hired for 200k, you'd be huffing your own farts in the bathroom all day complaining that i'm not paying you 300k

>>103241041
>wut? that's not an achievement worthy of six figures.
Why not? Reddit tells me there are managers at Walmart making close to that. Everything in math sounds like it's trying too hard, even the simplest things. And it's not about the concept in particular, it's about in the abstract being able to learn, apply, and discover new ideas and concepts.

>>103241070
I probably would be not gonna lie. I seriously thought I had to teach elementary school and make half this amount, but the moment they offered me a job and told me the salary I turned my nose up at it and forgot all about my previous stressors.

>>103240984
>"PhD in math 200k starting is like a 15 year old meme"
>admits to being an undergrad
>no mention of completed PhD whatsoever
Surely enough you can calculate the future trajectory of what I am about to say with that hecking brilliant gifted brain of yours, retard.

>>103240984
>I'm in Milwaukee, WI.
$95k is perfectly fine for entry-level positions in that cost of living, you penis.

>>103240900
Yeah definitely when you have more experience and become more likeable.

>>103241089
>>103241092
>>103241096
I appreciate the positive affirmations. I needed this guys.

>>103241088
Yes, because a manager has more experience than you. Also, do you think just anybody gets to be a manager? You have to be a lifeless psychopath bootlicker to get to that position, and as much as your entitled reddit brain might lead you to believe, it's a skill that you most likely don't have.
> it's about in the abstract being able to learn, apply, and discover new ideas and concepts.
That is the BARE MINIMUM even fucking accountants are expected to have nowadays.

Man, you really are fucking clueless and inexperienced, I feel sorry for that future child of yours.

>>103240984
>PhD in math 200k starting is like a 15 year old meme
should have gotten the phd then, faggot

Man all you fuckers do is whine about money. You're all pajeets at heart. Later losers.

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After 3 years of being a remote but hard-working goy I got told I have to be back in the office next year or take redundancy. I chose redundancy and have found another remote job that pays better than the first with less politics. Currently working both jobs at once (but half-arsing the first of course).

Stand your ground my WFH friends! You do NOT need to spend ANY of your precious time on earth traveling to and fro a fluorescently lit daycare in order to work all day from a laptop. Don't let the cunts in suits or their HR lapdogs convince you otherwise.

>>103240856
The fucks a Tiktok?

>>103241215
A site that, just like you, doesn't know how to use the Enter key properly.

>>103240777
>Are you morbidly obese?
i thought all americans were

>>103241194
extremo hyper based. isn't that weird if/when another employer does a background check later on you and find you were working 2 jobs at once?

>>103241229
Cool
bro
that's
good
to
know
thanks

>>103241253
You must be over 18 to post here

i prefer wfh because i can fart whenever i want and attend meetings fully nude

>>103241249
There's only an overlap of a couple of months, I'm sure I'll be able to explain it away if it ever comes up.

quick call?

>>103241288
Tell that to
your mom
gramps

I used to think WFH sucked, until I realized you literally can't get shit done in the office when you need to argue with IT for every little crumb of access to online repos to test code to prototype quicky. Just end up imagining myself doing it, write down the step by step process of what commands to type, and get a days work done at home in an hour or two.
I fucking hate IT tards.

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Why does every single interview I do have at least one person who literally looks like this

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>>103241437
>Everyone I work with looks like this

>>103241454
There's a guy at my gym that looks just like this

>>103239922
>>103239786
>>103240318
>>103239977
>>103240033
weirdos

>>103241253
>>103241387
quick
call
saar
...
?

>>103241506
didn't ask

>>103240742
>Boss catches me slacking off?
There is one solution to that, it's called WFH

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>layoffs announced
>get added to a critical product as a lead engineer

Surely this is good, right?

>>103241597
I hope you're ready to work.

>that feel when you realize you're not quite good enough for top company but hate working for low tier ones

>>103241088
You get paid based on the value you bring not your ability to understand the world. If you want to sell understanding open an Etrade account.

Do you need a cs degree if you code and have another degree that isnt feminist basket weaving

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>>103241753
no

>>103241597
Lol you're going to be leading yourself.

>>103239556
of course, the only reason people crowd into these horrible cities is because it's where the jobs are.

>>103239556
You'd be surprised, I met my gf because I moved to the middle of nowhere during Covid. It's easier to meet women in small towns because you've got less competition.

>>103241759
It's really stupid people that are the problem. There are plenty of intelligent hermits that are content being poor.

>>103242093
A lot of them went online during covid so that's not really true anymore.

>>103236736
I'm a lowly Tier 1 Helpdesk Network Tech, do i count?

>>103242218
You probably do more work than then $300k+ FAGMAN coders here so yes

>>103242233
>$300k+ FAGMAN coders here
All zero of them?

>>103241648
What defines a top company? Is there a tier list for this?


>>103242233
FAGMAN is pretty gay, I thought the cool companies were the ones where you build shit that kills people, like Raytheon or Northrup-Grumman.

>>103242560
>What defines a top company? Is there a tier list for this?
when you interview you realize the quality of the people, the stack, the hiring process, and of course the comp
just like there are first division sports teams same for companies

>>103236736
Wow I didn’t know that they made Los Santos real!!

>My Team Lead kept ignoring me and I have to reporting my work via Jira by myself in the meeting everytime

Is it time?

well at least it's already wednesday

I hate HR
I HATE HR

>>103243168

stop harassing women, bigot

>>103243168
Anon I didn't see you at the OPTIONAL event is something the matter are you having trouble with your coworkers?

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>>103243168

>>103243024
Why are these garbage tools so often used? Why is this industry so rife with bullshit? I never took it seriously but its exactly like that meme picture with the red Pepe about to lose it while his boss talks about binging him on smackjiz before submitting a nosecock or whatever.

>>103242391
Applefag reporting in.

>>103243213
Do they force you to live in CA for that?

>>103243213
How'd you get into Apple? I know people who've worked at every other big tech company but I've never met anyone who's worked there. Are they a lot more selective?

do coursera certs even matter? seem like bullshit to me.

>>103243261
the penis inspection is most rigorous

>>103243261
A senior research scientist at the company was a former colleague of mine. I met him at a conference and he helped me get an interview.

>>103243284

no, only industry-supported ones. sec+ is garbage, but the dod loves it.

>>103243261
I should also mention I am just finishing my PhD in computer graphics. As for the interview process, it was the standard recruiter -> hiring manager -> full-day "onsite" of back-to-back interviews.

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>retards in engineering ask me to open all ports on the firewall, and "temporarily take down the security" so they can "test something" with a third party vendor they want to try
>"no."
they actually thought i would just leave our network completely vulnerable for an unspecified amount of time (knowing them, at least a week) so they can test some retarded shit they are going to spend a ridiculous amount of money on that doesnt even work hardly.

Yeah I've got a PHD as well
Pretty
Huge
Dick

>tfw huge dick but my fetish is sph
I suffer at my tech job

>>103243456
Yeah you are a huge dick but what does that have to do with sph

>>103243335
This year I refused to migrate an internal portal to https. Itards fucked up epically and we had a ransomware attack. So the tried to cast blame to other departments. It did work

some random indian recruiter asked for ssn and i gave it to him, it is over for me?

>>103243910
not if you are indian

>>103243915
im not D:

never give up new grads

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>>103237023
and also
>calling those who don't "not real accountants"
>seeing influencers say shit like "i dream in accounting"
>seeing them have an entire movement about doing shit that simplifies accounting for everyone, for free, for big corpos to use, no questions asked
>seeing them blog about best accounting practices daily
>asking them for tips on grinding accleetcode 3 hours daily
I am such a gigantic fucking retard. I saw all the signs of extreme cuckoldry and still stayed in this dogshit career.

>>103243910
it's time to reroll

>>103243910
Ok saar, this is final round, please purchase of the $20,000 worth of gift cards as a confirmation step.

>>103243989
>all the accountants constantly competing for most prestigious company/title/salary and feeling jealous of those above them

>>103243920
u fuked dude

>Recruiter hits me up for position ~80 miles away
>"Hi [Recruiter], [city] is too far of a commute for me. Thanks though!"
>"Where are you located ?"
Gee I don't know brah, maybe the city I have listed on my LinkedIn profile, my resume, and the one I mentioned when you asked me in our phone call? How do recruiters go through life being this retarded?

>>103241437
Interviewing with IRL 'jaks >>> interviewing with poos > interviewing with changs

>used to get invited to talks/events (basically just recruiter events) at big tech companies every month
>suddenly not getting invited anymore
i wonder what happened

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WTF is wrong with BAs in every single company? This guy is questioning my workload out of the blue and I'm just referring him to my manager. "Nobody in our team knows what are you working on" he says.

>>103245322
Sounds like someone asked you a question and now you're freaking out

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>>103245356
Not really, I work on what my boss tells me to work on. I had 2 months of hellish workload and now I'm dealing with tickets and having more spare time, so obviously I get a bit angry when somebody questions that. Go to my boss and leave me be please.

>>103245322
holy shit you got dogged on son. high chance that the BA didnt even care, he just wanted to dominate you. surely you replied with a dig back at him?

I'm seething because of a common problem I have encountered during the length of all my entire career. My entire life even. Which is low IQ people that I have to work with.
When it comes to doing a certain task, say documenting a solution, for example. Retards tend to waste way too much time in the irrelevant details. In the case of documenting a solution, that would be "omg i need to choose the perfect header the perfect footer, the font, the line spacing etc". They are wasting so much time on the form and presentation while neglecting the actual important part, the content. It is fucking retarded trash. You aren't even writing coherent sentences and making retarded spelling mistakes. The quality of the work is just sub par. I observed this in at school, during uni, even at work.
Retards will just focus on the form because they know that the content is just not good, so they compensate with pretty colors and lines, while wasting everybody's time. It's baffling how many incompetent people hold jobs that they aren't even qualified for and somehow manage to hold them just by doing the bare minimum and being mediocre at best. Just barely scraping the bare acceptable minimum in order not to be fired. And I am talking about Fortune 100 companies. How do we solve this issue? (Hint: I think managers are part of the problem)

>job profile is exactly me to the letter
>not even the tiniest compromise to make
>i live a 15 minute drive away
>it's an entry level QA+support position that nobody would actually want to compete over
>denied within 2 hours of application
i give up boys im gonna chud it up when my savings run out and say farewell to this mortal coil

>>103237498
Cute N(0, 1).

>>103237534
I feel like that's illegal.

>new job at big fucking company
>Everyone in charge is Non-technical every fucking time
>They're the equivalent of third-graders, get angry when simple stuff is explained to them because it stresses them out, they get defensive
>Want to do evertything the non-tech way
It's tiresome. And they're always metric-fags who don't actually have to do any work but make sure others are on assignments. They get boomer meltdowns when you give pushback.

>>103245322
>Fucking with your probably only source of income for no reason
I really don't understand cock suckers like this

>>103236781
i will return to office if they staff prostitutes like this one to give on demand footjobs

>>103245853
>new job posted 1 hour ago
>over 100 applicants
its fucking over

>>103246122
its just bots

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>>103245415
Nah I'm chill and honestly focus on being amicable and helpful to keep my job, but this guy loves to mess with me from time to time. He surely gets a lot of work, but it's not my fault.
>>103246060
Yeah, I don't want to be rude and outright tell him these "jokes" are annoying me, but honestly it makes me angry. I'm not going to keep shouting I want more work assigned because I'm not a retard and during some heavy projects I'm getting pushed to the limit already, so I will take any "low work" month as a way to recharge my batteries.

>>103246137
Bots and Indians.

>>103246171
its a trick they do in people centric jobs anon, written in a lot of those shitty self help books on "influencing people". they press you to see how weak you are, so they know how much they can make you do for them.

Is it possible to fuck up early in your career and never be able to make it into an interesting company or high pay? I feel like my current apathy is going to kill my chances as a new grad

>>103246198
I probably shouldn't tell you this but I got fired from my first job for being apathetic and got hired pretty quickly by a larger company for more money.

The whole effort -> reward thing is pretty disconnected after college.

>>103242148
It's not even that. There is a huge lack of intellectuals.

>>103246312
Intellectuals and sophists are the real problem with the post modern world. There's a huge lack of intelligent people who are willing to get their hands dirty.

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>>103246294
Lol same, I was overworked at my previous startup job due to a micromanaging boss and I got canned during the second wave of layoffs anyway. In this job I've been putting like 50-70% the effort (saving it for key moments) and I've already lasted twice the time compared to my previous job. In the end it's more about having a good boss, being friendly, and obviously competent as well.

God I love the final two weeks of a job, the desperation of management. Palpable.

>>103246439
>h-hey anon, i know starting from *date* you wont be working here anymore, but could you maybe still s-schedule a KT?

>>103246451
Sorry, I'll be using PTO on my last week. :)

>>103246454
>o-oh haha okay what about *date you"ve already left the company*

>>103246588
Did you read my notice? Please check the date! :)

So do hiring pick back up mid January? because right now things are kind of depressing

>>103246770
my nigga ford just fired 4000 people.

>>103246770
Things are going to get way worse for a little while. Depending on what Trump does they could become completely intolerable or recover. We'll see.

>>103236736
>Pic
Why couldn't they just build it in a straight line? All the other roads are straight, but then the top level highway is all jank as fuck.

>>103246770
I'm getting offers all over.

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>>103246770
it depends

Does anyone here have any experience with East Asian universities? I'm thinking of doing a PhD in Electrical Engineering, and have always wanted to try living in East Asia so I'm kind of considering going for both at the same time. I'm mostly interested in either Korea (KAIST, SNU, Hanyang) or Taiwan (NTU, NYCU, Taiwan Tech), but Japan, Singapore and Mainland China are possible options too.

>>103247018
not sure about phds but my friend did his masters at kyoto university and had a great experience

After reviewing your application, we have made the decision to pursue other candidates whose qualifications and experience are more closely aligned to the needs of this position.

>>103247200
you know what stings the most? when you've been having great communication with the recruiter throughout the process, and they start using informal language, emoticons, etc in their emails, but then when you get rejected, you get the generic copy pasted rejection email from them.
you could at least write the email yourself after i spent 8 hours talking to different niggers and faggots at your company.

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>used to work in IT
>now a developer
>i am now the idiot calling IT because my password won't reset and it's because i didn't notice something stupid like connecting to vpn/using previous password
i am so sorry it bros

>our team has one tester
>he recently got butthurt because I've started making my testing instructions overly granular and spelling out every little thing he needs to do
>if I don't do that then without fail when I assign him something to test he will message me "this isn't working for me" when he did something retarded and didn't follow my fucking instructions

>>103247244
skill issue, in my 5 years of being a dev ive never asked IT anything

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>>103247244
It's okay my friend, we still love you. You came from the best.

>Day 101 of being a digital nomad:
>The candles in my uco lantern got messed up so to make my coffee this morning I tore some scrap paper up to use as a bigger wick. Now my stainless steel mug makes my hands all sooty and the aluminum case on the company macbook is covered in black fingerprints.

How do I find a new job?
I got this job from a recruiter messaging me on LinkedIn
All the LinkedIn and Indeed jobs are fake listings
Where do I find real jobs?

>not considered for promotions 3 years straight
>new tech lead appointed is younger than me

so this is how it ends, huh?

>>103247299
ClearanceJobs.

>>103246770
January-February is a much better period than November-December but it's a pipe dream to think they won't still be dogshit

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How many of you know what an IRQ is?

>>103247311
balding is not good, going gray is a death sentence

>>103247311
3 fucking years and you aren't bouncing on principle? You're a cuck and they know it, sit in the corner.

I'm going to college for electrical engineering. Looking for laptop recommendations.
Am I going to have to use windows for the course and in my work? I'd prefer to only use Linux.
Apart from that it should be light and good for professional work be it EE or programming.

>>103236736
finally got the start date for my new job, i have 2 weeks to brush up on C# .net, any suggestions?

>>103247322
My friend was recently applying for a DOD job but he smoked marijuana a few times 5 years ago in college
Will my friend be denied clearance?

Maybe if I install Nethack I'd be more motivated to keep my hands on my work computer keyboard.

>>103247698
learn to use visual studio the way it was designed for
embrace LINQ

>>103247595
>Am I going to have to use windows for the course and in my work? I'd prefer to only use Linux.
Keep that shit to yourself if you want to get hired. If anyone told me they were a Linux autist in a job interview it would immediately disqualify them.

>>103247786
Meh. I've gotten hired multiple times impressing people with regex, nvim, and shell use. If you like something then just lean into it. People naturally self sort and you'll find yourself among like minded people.

>>103247786
You're a massive retard lol.

>>103247764
No, I told them the same. I no longer use the stuff now and it's way better to be truthful about that, mamajuana use is a very very minor infraction. Possession convictions? Those will get you filtered though. But if it was recreational, and years ago he's in the clear.

>>103246770
things will start picking up in 2029 or 2030

>>103247764
>>103247933
Infact, they scrutinize alcoholics more.

>>103247786
>>103247783
>>103247797
Do wintoddlers fucking really??

>>103247764
yes. marijuana, or the devil's lettuce as i call it, is a crime. your friend is turbo fucked. they will find out and send him to PITA prison

>Hi [Boss's Name], sometime before the Holidays I'd like to discuss my compensation. I've picked up a lot of slack and feel like my role and value for [Company Name] has greatly increased during this year and feel that my compensation should reflect that.

How's this to start?

>>103245322
pressed

>>103248115
add some numbers you've searched and a direct ask
>I see the average band for my role is X-Y in the area
>i think somewhere around Z would be appropriate for my current role and responsabilities

>>103248174
thanks

>>103248208
>>103248115
also you need to ask fucking now, promotions/budget/raises are decided in oct/nov and finalized in december to take effect in jan
if you ask at christmas it's too late

>>103248219
I'll send this to him by Friday. Gonna ask for 112k. I make 90k as essentially a Jr sysadmin but we fired someone in the early autumn and I've picked up a lot of slack and my boss calls me all the time for help and questions and even says "wow thanks you've really become essential anon" and our Sysadmin is a lazy pos who's always sick and barely assists on tickets even though we're down a guy and basically a 3-man operation

you ever worked for a smaller company (50ish) with a crazy CEO?

>>103247244
>Do not need IT for my faults, only for their own fuckups and other bs
>It's outsourced to India
every time.

>>103248744
There are no sane CEOs in a company of 50 people.

>>103248744
>>103248971
All CEOs are fundamentally unbalanced, mentally unwell people. It's practically a requirement to become a CEO. Yeah though, I worked for a cryptocurrency startup in 2016-2017. First building out a compliance and KYC/AML team then as a DevOps engineer. The CEO was bags hit insane and couldn't explain anything in a straightforward way. We raised $17m with an ICO and zero product, then the company shut down and I was the last paid employee. I literally turned off all the AWS infra and handed the keys over on a thumb drive. In retrospect it was definitely a scam and the founders 100% walked away with most of the money.

>>103247484
is that like IRC for PQTRIOTs?

>>103248744
what industry u in, and why ur ceo craz?

>>103248115
look it up on r/experienceddevs and cscareerquestions

Can I get the QRD on working at startups? I think I'll opt for the .NET drone life instead.

>>103247698
here u go anon:
https://www.udemy.com/course/ultimate-csharp-masterclass/?srsltid=AfmBOoqqtHvUpT-YaehzVg9m_FBbHRyPOZkS_ckXvVdClM2mNuJq84D0

I only did 1/3rd of it but the instructor is a master at teaching. legit the best programming teacher I've learned from

>hey anon I know your cv is in depth and detail about everything but could you please add some info about tickets that you did, that would really help the hiring managers :)))

>No, my NDA does not allow that. CV has enough information for you to work with.

And just that. Do these HR whores really think I'm gonna fight for the position? I'm your fucking God, your entire company will kneel to me and beg me to work there, or you can fuck off.

>>103249371
Only worth it if you're clever enough to take advantage (options, flexibility, grifting, opportunity for advancement with company growth, etc) or actually give a shit about the tech stack (stupid, don't do this). You can often make a bit more money at a startup and get promotions quicker, but it'll be less stable and they'll be retarded about basically everything.

>>103249426
Enjoy being on the market forever.

>>103249458
I'm sure that's true for you code monkeys and other cucks alike, but I have to sift through recruiters begging for my attention. I set the rules.

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>>103249473
>mfw haven't needed to interact with a recruiter or hiring manager for 5 years
>mfw steady raises and promotions without changing companies
>mfw when I'm the hiring manager now
>mfw $226k total comp
I filter out up-their-own-ass, primadonna engineer fags like you as a matter of course. Bad attitude = no offer. I don't give a shit about how good you think your code is - being an effective team player is more valuable to me than technical knowledge that can be coached. You can't coach someone out of being a prick.

>>103247484
I've written an interrupt routine, you little faggot

>>103249542
>>mfw $226k total comp
Europoor here, do you live in a HCoL area? If not, how'd you manage that in 5 years?
>t. Cloud engineer

>>103247484
How the fuck would you not?

>>103247497
NTA but I prefer the familiarity and stability.

>>103249542
Not him but there's only so much administrative ass kissing you can tolerate and around the time you become really competent most people realize that it doesn't actually get you anywhere.

Obviously don't be an antisocial ass but the only time you should bend over for HR like that is if you have absolutely no experience. Otherwise they'll just keep asking until they ask for something you can't accept.

>>103249818
No I live in a fairly low cost of living area. It has its tradeoffs for sure, but my mortgage is only like $1400 and I rent a room for $600/month so I can ignore some of the bad stuff. My company went all in on remote first and shut down every office but the small one the CEO uses in San Francisco. They also aren't shy about firing underperformers so you have to constantly show value, but it's all in the balance.

I took a couple chances, got lucky, but also stuck it out through some bad times. I was making a bit over $90k as a level one DevSecOps engineer. I got an offer to move over to a sales engineering role with a small but profitable consulting company for $99k, and decided to go for it because the culture was shit where I worked and I had a jeet boss that had me on-call all the time. First year was ok, then my boss left and the company took funding and it was total chaos. Lots of leadership changes, layoffs, etc. Being on the sales side has tradeoffs, salespeople suck and clients are retarded, but you get more flexibility and it's easier to stand out. I just buckled down and kept driving the comp convo with each new manager (six different managers over five years). Got some raises up to $120, then $150. Then the new VP of sales redid comp structure and I finally got a promotion and got to $200 on a 70/30 split with commission. There were definitely times it really sucked and I was super burned out, even got screamed at by the CEO, but I just stuck it out and focused on showing my teams value. Now I'm a sr manager with a 7-person team. Good days and bad days but I'm saving money super fast and get 5 weeks of vacation so I'm just gonna keep at it.
>>103249897
Definitely true, I've found you have to be really strategic about your ass kissing. Try to get a read on the relationships and personalities in senior leadership, kiss ass with a light touch in the right places, be smart about who and what you complain about and when. Avoid HR in general.

I really love how instead of talking about my actual experience in interviews and problems I've solved I get to play trivia and have some smug faggot act like I'm an idiot for not knowing something I'd google on the job

>>103250342
Yeah that's what you get when 90%+ of managers are genuinely shit at interviewing, most of them are bad managers to begin with, and the market is hypersaturated my Indians with CS masters degrees.

>updating my resume
>trying to write a summary
>"I want to make the maximum mount of money while maximizing the amount of time I can do zero real work. I want nobody to be up my ass and not be subject to performance reviews. I want to do whatever I want"
I can't think of anything else to put down.
Am I burnt out?

>>103250342
that sums up my feelings quite well, hiring is absolutely retarded in tech.

I have a psued-IQ which means I'm a crazy ADHD fucker that can score between 130-150 on an IQ test on any given day but have done absolutely nothing of value with my life and know that it is precisely behavioral and that because of the way I absorb information it is not conducive with the job market.

I can read 50,000 pages of information in a day, retain the majority of it, but wholly lack the discipline to master the entirety of it. I can get any certifiation in the world in like 4 hours, but it's always borderline I can pass a test but can't sound like I know it like the back of my hand.

This post is just here because I can't do anything with this gift, it's a nigger gift, I just see tons of patterns and can take in tons of information but I am lacking in the directional aspect of it that makes people productive. I quite strongly just want to think about whatever it is that interests me. Nothing else. I also find that directional aspect to be limiting, and fear I would sacrifice my unholy capacity for absorbing new information.

I am meant to die a hobo. It will be in the next few months. I'm just glad Trump won. In a few weeks this tech support/dev job I got will realize that I can't stay focused and yeah I may have a lot in my head but I HAVE A LOT IN MY HEAD and that's not going to work out for the company.

>>103250716
tldr: you're a mong

>>103250716
what the fuck

>>103243989
>>103244024
It's the exact same people you'd see playing league of legends or competitive WoW arena over a decade ago. They just want to be the best on their server (company), do free excel sheets and optimal builds to get most forum clout, spending hours upon hours of work to get a high enough rating for a cosmetic title.

Managers saw your autistic monkey asses and exploited you.

>>103245322
Unless you actually are a bitch, the #1 solution for stuff like this is to talk to people in person. As an autistic sperglord /fraud/, whenever someone I don't know sends me an email with an attitude or gets snappy or informal with me on teams, I make sure to walk to their desk after and ask them if they had any issues that were pertinent for us to discuss given their clear distress. The five or six times I've done this they've always apologized and refused to make eye contact with me. It's just a job and none of this is real. Physically I could kill and probably quite literally rip in half everyone in my company, and that's all that really matters matters in real life and not fake pretend Jira waterfall agile scrum target board stand up bullshit whatever the hell the sociopath circus conductors make up to have a job.

>>103250716
I'm not sure if I can empathize with this or not because it kind of sounds relatable but your head is too far up your own ass to make out what the point is

>>103250937
The point is I don't care for the details, I'm 100 mph at all times and can't slow down. It is a literal miracle if I read your email.

There is no reason to empathize, never in my life have I met somebody like me. I need to just have a well timed heart attack on a beach, really.

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>>103250911
>the #1 solution for stuff like this is to talk to people in person.
Thats gonna be hard, as I work full remote. I have lots of calls with cam enabled, but it's true you cannot convey any kind of "menacing" aura effectively through there with the same effectiveness.

>>103250962
That sucks man. I really, really dislike the completely unprofessional and rude behavior that some people pick up when working remote or online. Usually it's some hyper nerd in a manager's pocket so you can't call him out, and the only real solution is to go nuclear with HR which might even backfire.

>>103239556
Correct. Kiss your dating life goodbye unless you can tolerate fats and single moms. And what are you going to with your money unless you're an avid fisher or hiker (you're on /g/, get real)?

Do not fall for the rural meme unless it's an exurb rich people go to larp as farmers and waste absurd amounts of money at farmer's markets. Even then, it's the place you go AFTER you have a wife and potentially have kids on the way.

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>>103250190
Dope anon, good on you. You seem like a likable guy. Do you mind a few more questions?
>How did yo udrive those convos for such big increaes
>What's your process to gain more knowledge
>You said it's easy to stand out, can you expand on that?

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>We’re seeking a future team member for the role of Vice President, Full-Stack Engineer I to join our team

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>>103251191
>Vice President, Full-Stack Engineer I
explain

What's the cheat sheet guide to doing devops

>>103251323
>generally
know what a pipeline is
know how to do ls and cd and use vi
learn an iac tool and manage infrastructure that way. add existing infra to an iac stack if possible to make your life easy
set up monitoring for all the above
double emphasis on ensuring all the above work can be checked into SCM
have a defined scope of work and know when to tell devs to fix their shit instead of yelling at you (the hard part)
if it's inside your scope of work, writing tooling to make your life easy
if it's outside your scope of work but devs bother you a lot, write tooling for devs to use so they don't bother you
t. 5 yoe

>>103250716
you sound like a midwit

>>103251323
>>103251387
>know how to do ls and cd and use vi
I was trying to be snarky but seriously don't be a jeet who doesn't know how to check syslogs, or if your shop is smart and using serverless solutions know how a Dockerfile works. Again depending on your shop you will use different tools but it's painfully easy to differentiate from your average devopsbro.
If you think about it it's just the modern incarnation of the sysadmin. And they're already trying to retire the role in favor of "devsecops" (don't ask me what it means it's all the same flavor)

>>103249385
thank you anon

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>>103251427
yw

>>103249868
You'd be surprised.

>k8s forced everywhere
6 projects in, I'm yet to find a setup that needs more than the most barebones ecs fargate setup

any blockers?

>>103251416
this lol, literally the "smart but lazy" cope

>>103242093
I bet she wasn't from that town either

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my companys vms dont even work. timeouts and lag make them barely usable.

>>103236736
look at all that wasted prime mediterranean climate land, wasted on overtly expansive homes that are fit for a Nebraskan countryside. what a waste, what a waste. this could have been our tokyo

>>103252196
Tell the engineers they replaced with h1bs to do the needful.

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>graduate but no internship
>go helldesk
>1 year in and 2 promotions later, promised a dev role
>company acquired 1 month before raise is effective
>new owners stop promotion
>no work to do because I'd already started transitioning out of previous role
I'm getting laid off, aren't I?

>>103251420
>>103251387
damn this sounds pretty cringe, but its a job. What job title should I look for if I want to ACTUALLY build software, just applied to a devops position for a pay bump and my "software developer" position was 90% meetings so higher ups could smell their farts instead of actually DEVELOPING software to solve problems.

Not even sure that big companies even make anything, every time I ask about something interesting or a project I want to jump into I get told another company we have a contract with does it instead. I've been here a year and a half already and I don't think I've done any actual work, yet my review went great.

>>103251917
i'm blocked by this job is kinda ghey and i'd rather do just about anything else

>>103251917
>this gay language is used everywhere
grim
but now that we've identified this, lets keep pulling this thread to really capitalize on what we've identified and circle back during our next stand-up.

>>103249542
ZASED

>can't bring my own awesome laptop to work at all, not even past the main gate
>have to use the pos equipment given to me instead
>end up just bullshitting at work until I get home to get actual work done

What is the solution to this? Will IT certify my laptop if I ask? Can I just ask them to give me [spoiler]a MacBook[/spoiler]

>>103252278
>my "software developer" position was 90% meetings so higher ups could smell their farts instead of actually DEVELOPING software to solve problems.
Sorry to say but if you're trying to escape to devops to avoid meetings then you're misguided. You're describing a company culture problem.
I've worked at a place where we were drawn into meetings to get our shit nitpicked and told the solution THEY want us to implement, and a place where I don't have to talk to anyone all day and I'm free to do what I want, as long as I produce results.
>every time I ask about something interesting or a project I want to jump into I get told another company we have a contract with does it instead.
That's just a general sign of your company culture not giving you enough agency. There are plenty of shops that allow devfags to go crazy. I will argue that us devopsfags have even less agency to do things because of the fungible nature of infrastructure, working tooling and the uptime for both.

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>graduate with no internship
>into this shithole market
>can only get interviews for 60k jeet jobs because im retarded
>get to offer stage, offered 55k
>dont want to be poor
>get a friend to make a fake offer letter for a fake company
>letter says 75k on it
>negotiate for 80k, show offer letter when asked
>it works, get 80k offer
This world is nothing more than a sham...

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LinkedIn has just informed me that I am smarter than 75% of CEO's
When will I be offered a CEO job?

>interview scheduled for a IC role
>with the CTO
how nervous should you be

>>103252693
same as any other: 0%
worst case you get rejected and move on

>>103252487
do you have enough throughput in the sprint to take this as an action item? and should we size it as a parking lot item?

>>103252653
That sounds true but when I've interfaced with some of the companies we've hired so we can implement their products, it's absolute garbage and all flash no substance, to where I know we could do better in house and our guys are much smarter.
I feel like I accidentally got hired in a super rich company that just collects devs so they can retire and do nothing and "work from home" to hang out with their kids all day. I'm not old, I want to actually do stuff, I don't want to just sit around and coast all day. It almost feels like the only real escape I could find is some research institute or academia.

>>103251058
Thanks anon, I can be kind of a retard but I'm doing OK so it could be worse.
>How did you drive those convos for such big increases.
Two main things - for a long time I was paid well under 'industry average' for my role. If you look up average comp for solutions architects, sales engineers etc it's like $120-240k. Highly variable because it a super broad job that depending on the company can be anything from someone who just runs demos to someone actually doing technical architecture stuff. My job is somewhere in the middle. Every time I'd get a new boss, they love to ask what's going well and what isn't. I try to avoid just bitching and instead be objective oriented and talk about what would help me better support the business. Then I follow up with 'overall I'm happy here but there are many comparable roles out there paying significantly higher. I don't want to stop working here, but it's difficult to say no to a $40k+ raise' once I have some rapport and trust. They have to think it's genuinely worth having you there to care, so that has to come first. Then I just bring it up 2-4 times a year with review cycles to keep that convo active. Eventually you'll get a raise if they like you, probably not as much as you want, but you can be like thank you this is great, this helps, but let's keep working on it. The biggest raise was that exec changing the whole comp plan, which was basically luck, but I always make sure to introduce myself to new leadership early now and present myself as someone that is reasonable and invested in the business. Most people will just blow smoke up their ass, complain about things, or not engage at all.
>What's your process to gain more knowledge.
First couple years it was just writing down where I felt out of my depth and doing self study to brush up. Udemy courses, YouTube, random blogs, books. I did a lot of hands on stuff to learn and spent some on AWS deploying open source applications and stuff. Not so much now.

AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT I CANNOT BE SAVED

>>103252674
based

>>103251058
>>103252783
Now I just learn on the job. I work with a bunch of people who know way more than me so I just listen and don't pretend I know more than I do. It's just how I learn, which one s different for everyone, but I pick up things wherever I can and try to learn enough to not sound like a total retard but also stay in my lane. People love when you make them feel smart, so I let them be more knowledgeable than me whenever I can. It makes them like you.
>You said it's easy to stand out, can you expand on that?
Yeah salespeople are actually retarded like 9/10 times or more. They can sell something for 10 years and still have no idea what it really does even fundamentally. Just knowing how to do a curl request, read a graphql introspection, etc makes you the most technical person by far. As an engineer, it can be tough to stand out because it's a constant cock measuring contest about who is using the most raw version of k8s or writing the gayest code or whatever, but leadership doesn't give a shit about that. They want to see how you're supported the key objectives of the business. I've noticed more and more how the most technical employees are often the most narrow minded and get way too focused on things that, while often important, don't matter when zoomed out a bit. Having a balance of knowhow, good communication skills, and decent business sense stands out. Knowing when to escalate something and when to just deal with something that's stupid because it's the pragmatic thing to do is key. I struggle to coach my direct reports on this - they'll put way to much energy into the wrong stuff then be all burned out and I'm like, why? Nobody else was gonna notice all that effort. You could have done this other thing for twice the recognition. It's not being a grifter or a sellout, it's just making the best use of your time at work. Being right about some technical thing doesn't get you a raise. Giving people what they need when they need it most does.

>>103252674
You have the soul of a hero, anon.

>>103252674
That's the spirit anon, you're starting to get it.
>>103252278
You're almost there anon. Remember, your company could stop existing and it wouldn't matter at all in the larger picture. If you're personally invested in "doing thing" you're missing the point. You're there to trade time for money - stop being so focused on how you spend the time and start playing the real game to get a better return on effort. Those higher up fart sniffing meetings are an opportunity, not a detriment. If you're getting great reviews, and you're invited to meetings with the higher ups, you're succeeding. It literally doesn't matter how much code your wrote.

>>103252649
Yes. Explain that your hardware is preventing you from performing a business critical function and you need a replacement to achieve your teams OKRs.

>>103252903
It's the truth, I see now. The market is all fake.
The only thing that remains is actually faking competence, since I'm a retard.

>>103243989
It sounds like you're a retard and got filtered. Good riddance.

Fact of the matter is that 10k,15k, 20k, a year to a decently sized company is peanuts. They're not gonna make a habit of just handing out free money, but if you can sweet talk well enough they'll easily cave.

>>103252963
You don't have to fake competency, you just have to start paying more attention to what is actually perceived as helpful and valuable by management and doing that instead of what you think your job is 'supposed' to be.

>>103253001
...which I'm bad at figuring out. Because I'm retarded.

>>103252674
Fake and gay

Just letting you know all you scrum and agile bois are getting left behind

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>>103253170
real agile has never been tried though.

>working a contract
>pretty quiet work, requirements constantly redefined because govt workers are retarded but never have any complaints about my work
>contract already extended once
>take time for paternity leave, scheduled months ahead of time. No concerns from client
>fired the first day out

Lol. The level of disrespect truly staggering

>my first job
>no work experience
>been given a task to do advanced backend + data engineering shit
Is this shit normal? I'm just a newbie, fresh from college, only grinded DSA to get through the job interview process, and they expect me to be some expert coder? I'm fucking lost and senior members in my team are just too busy to help me and the deadline is approaching...what the fuck

>>103253018
Just tell them you'll replace all of the grifter vendors they have with sleek home grown solutions and then make something so completely unmanageable by anyone else that they have to keep you on to tend to it. Ez

>>103253273
That sucks man, but that why contract roles exist. So they can do exactly that sort of thing more easily. Congrats on the kiddo and hope you find a new role easily when you're ready.

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>>103253289
doesn't matter until you've reached the 20th deadline. and feel free to throw your seniors under the bus.

>>103253316
yeah that is a good way to get popular and make sure they are nice and helpful from then on

>>103253289
Can you elaborate more on the ask? Some places do expect devs to do DBA stuff. Worth knowing anyway

>>103253305
Thanks, I actually already have other work lined up next year so it's not really an issue for me, just shocked by the gall of having an HR Stacy blowing up my phone the day I get my exhausted wife and new baby home from the hospital and asking me to go pay postage to send my equipment back.

>>103253289
Just try it, I promise you absolutely nothing is as complicated as people pretend it is. If you're actually competent and didn't cheat through college, you can do anything they ask you to do in industry and are only a math degree away from getting into research.

>>103253316
This is a bad idea. The right idea is documentation and reports. Treat it like a research paper, and whenever they ask for an update give them the current draft. Save all drafts in a folder. Use git or any internal comparable tool to have a history of work. If you do all this, you can keep this up near indefinitely because management will be blamed without you having to do anything, and they will find someone more competent than you to finish it and you'll still get a ton of credit.

good afternoon fellow tech workers
anyone else feels like there's a "golden line" to ride in terms of balancing salary and responsibility?
I'm sure those executive managers and such make a bunch more money, but the effort-per-dollar goes up

>>103253478
My actual tasks aren't even tech related and an HR lady could do my job, and my salary is 105k. My job title is Embedded Software Engineer.

>>103253478
Lol if you think executives do any actual work

>>103253478
the sweet spot is senior software engineer. don't go past that.

>>103253478
I honestly think I'm one of the top earners at my company in terms of dollars:effort.

>>103253478
i feel like the bubble will burst any day now and we'll all get fired or demoted

>>103253478
Nah, there's not enough consistency from business to business to define something like that.

>>103253524
I know it's fun to go all "nobody in management does anything", but those guys aren't clocking off at 5pm everyday and only worrying about their own work

>>103253588
I think many senior non leadership roles cover that criteria

>>103253598
I have worked a senior roles that were pretty piss easy "junior dev but you're more experienced so we pay you more" and I've worked senior roles that involved doing a bunch of architect work and coordinating meetings and shit. My current job expects me to basically do dev ops, DBA, dev, and project planning all on my own

>>103240019
Literally the same. They said we have to go back from January. Becoming unemployed is not an option for me

>>103253590
all they do is send bitchy emails when number go down. "officers"/"chiefs" conceivably have some domain knowledge and recommendations (CTO, CFO, etc) but Executive Officers of all types, including Presidents/Vice Presidents/etc, exist solely to siphon money off of the company in exchange for being ostensibly legally responsible or liable if the company itself does anything explicitly illegal (and even then they always scapegoat it and escape to a higher paid executive position elsewhere)

>>103253555
that already happened like three times in the past decade

>>103253273
Sounds like you didn't have enough Gumption for the role.

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DoD god here. muskrat said to rto some decade soon. don't care never doing it.

>>103253876
That guy went from being Nostradamus to being the village idiot.

>top secret clearance required for every role
Man, my state is so gay

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>>103254269
yep

>>103254283
maybe the unemployed new grads will an hero too. It's brutal out there

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>>103254309
The rest of them might, but I will not.
I will stay alive.
>t. unemployed new grad

>>103253755
Well, all I can do as speculate. Tips on accumulating gumption?

>>103253273
Trying to keep a job while having really young kids fucking sucks. I got let go from a job I had for 7 years because I had to take a bunch of time off to watch my toddler who kept getting sick and fell behind on a project. I never had any prior issues but boom canned.

I'm so tired of being a full time student and a full time worker at hell desk, I make no money and can't quit my job to focus on studying for my cs degree and build fun stuff, when I get back to work I have to worry about how I will make trough the month.

I miss when my dad was alive taking care of me and encouraging me to study and be successful

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>>103254420
yeah.

>>103254675
>>103254675
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>>103249426
Don't NDAs usually have exemptions for using classified information in the process of applying for jobs?

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What should I spend my 50K signing bonus on?

>>103252754
>>103252487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RAMRukKqQg

>>103250716
just get on concerta bitch
now