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if dell didn't make it curved it would have been an easy sell
Is it expected that a Ryzen 7 5700X3D might go on sale for BF?
>>103260752it was on newegg last week for $150i'd suggest waiting or aliexpress
What's the difference between a 1ms and a 2ms monitor?
Worth it at that price? Want to upgrade from my 1080, don't think there'll be a better deal than this on Black Friday.>Wait for 50 seriesIf the leaked VRAM is true I'm not gonna get the 16gb VRAM I need for VR and AI without paying out the ass for a 5080. No point in waiting.This is in leafbux btw
>motherboards don't include a physical manual anymoreI would prefer that over a fancy keycap or a sata cable I'm not going to use
>>103260757how does ali carry parts for cheaper than other webstores? Its supposedly made in Malaysia so I don't understand how.
Am I getting screwed here? I want strictly 1440p. Coming from a 6700xt. Or maybe just wait for the 5070 and hope it doesn't start at 650?
Phanteks g500a, 3 140's in front intake, 1 140 rear exhaust and 1 140 top exhaust, there are 2 spots at top empty, should I leave it empty or put some more intake/exhaust?
>>103260769doesn't mean anything since the advertised number comes from the display at max hz plus max overdrive settings and might look like shit because the panels can't keep up and actually go that fast without overshoot and shitin summary, buy an oled
Is it ok to leave thermal paste in the empty resistor area of the am5 cpu? It already is running, I don't know if I should take it apart and clean it out. It's supposed to be non-conductive (mx-6 paste). If it was going to cause problems it would have instantly right? I don't want it to die years later randomly.
>>103260802Volume sales mainly
>Gigabyte 4070 Super Gaming OC for £539Good deal?
>>103260769The response time number on the box is effectively useless, excluding OLED. Actual response times of LCD panels will reach double-digit ms depending on the content and refresh rate, or they'll be fast but have overshoot which is just as bad.
>>103260828Thanks, that's what I thought but trying to figure it out was throwing me for a loop since I was assuming they weren't lying to me. Not buying an OLED though. I just don't like them. Leaning towards a AOC Q27G3XMN but uncertain about the $250 price tag I'm seeing.
>>103259912Same thing happened to me. My windows got corrupted so I decided to clean install, now I have 8TB doing nothing.
>>103260866Very good, they're usually above £600
Upgrading from a 2700X to a 5700X3D, but I remember having a lot of trouble with memory compatibility when I first built this system, had to return like 3 kits. I'm not sure if the motherboard or CPU were the picky one, so will the new chip just werk? I'm currently using basic bitch Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200CL16. Also would it work to add another identical 2x8GB kit or is getting 4 sticks to work a gamble?
>>103260938should be fine ryzen before 3000 was much worse with ram. I wouldn't worry about the ram unless it does cause an issue.
So I have an old NH-D15 and I plan to use it with 9800x3d. Question - do all modern mobos even fit it? They seems to have retarded huge gaymen plastic heatsinks all over
Well fuck my 98x3 ali express build isn't getting her til December off to OC my old 136k
>AMD boards nitpick which ram sticks you can actually get in all 4 slots>Speed is almost guaranteed to always be lowerFUCK MY LIFE SENPAIWish I knew before buying a second pack of no name 16x2 GB RAM, at least it wasn't that expensive but now I have to extra sticks and I don't now what to do with them.
Fuck me I never realized how big "mid" towers were until moving into my new place. Sorry for making fun of you sff builders for all these years
>>103260973Watch out the springs haven't lost tension happened to me with noctura twice so I sold it I got a free cooler I have to reuse just need mounting hardware
>>103261003I live in a 15m2 matchbox and I have a full tower, it's all about priorities and using your space right.
>>103261043Didn't have any issues in 10 years, changed paste this summer and it's still performing great. Plus AM5 kit come with some new hardware. Didn't even open it since I'm still on the old intel
I don't really need a pc right now, but might buy the hardware. Considering we're getting news about new GPUs in January, is this a good idea?
Can someone explain the smaller keyboard meme? Why would you want a smaller keyboard?
>>103261118zoomers are used to small phone keyboards
>>103261118it's zoomer fps players getting baited into thinking keyboards without the num pad is somehow better for gaming
>>103261104>might buy something I don't needFor what purpose?
>>103260866zotac model is 508
>>103261148Is that model any good though?
>>103260910if you care about ms you should NOT buy VAbecause of the slow responses blur and black smear>>103261118more mouse space because smaller keyboard more ergonomic
Is this a good buy?https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D6ZN2P1JI know the msi ventus cards are usually shit but the black version seems to have a much chunkier cooler.
https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=03367740-e496-4e94-8b40-1efd3be2d52cIs this decent for a first build pc?Budget is about 1700 and i am from the US. Minimal maintenance as well
>>103261130Cheaper now
>do more oled research>find out LG C4 is dimmer in game mode>LG G4 got a patch to fix itit's overshould I wait and hope for a decent over the top BF QDOLED monitor sale or just rope at this point?
>>103261207are you 5 feet tall lmao or a woman? my hands barely fit in 104 key board plus medium sized mouse pad
>>103260998yep adding ram later is a pain in the ass now this is why I encourage people to not cheap out if they're buying fast ram to avoid this exact scenarioI bought 64gb for my 4090 7800x3d build and that shit should last me for the life of the system
I want to build a storage/media server. Is AMD the cheapest way to have ECC? I know Intel is supposed to be better for streaming but everything will be local so I don't think I'll need transcoding.
>>103261197maybe not. 2 of the reviews mention coil whine
>>103261248Is an AIO minimal maintinance?Can i squeeze a little more performance out of the build for slightly cheaper?Help a retard out
>>103261263for media intel 10/11th gen is the best as its the latest thing that still reads 4K UHD Blu-rays
>>103261263Not really. The problem is only a few motherboards actually do error correction and, by and large, they're not cheap. The L1Techs forum has info on which boards work with it if you're curious. Alternatively, buy an old Xeon/TR/Epyc for guaranteed support.
>>103261291Ones I'm looking at say it's quite hot as well.
Best gpu I can get for $250?
>>103261350used?
>>103261308>Is an AIO minimal maintinance?Yes. Same as an air cooler. Though obviously when the pump dies you can't just replace it like a fan. Expect about 5 years from it.>Can i squeeze a little more performance out of the build for slightly cheaper?Hard to say because you're locked in to Microcenter pricing. Which, to be fair, is usually excellent so it won't be far off.
Thermal putty on vram > pads
Is it worth going for 2x32GB kits right now or are memory prices too overpriced and I should stick to 2x16GB? I don't keep up with the memory market, I just remember being able to go 16GB back in 2013 because shit was super cheap at the time, and staying on that for nearly a decade.It's for a Ryzen 8600G so I'd need to use some memory clocked fairly high for the iGPU. The cheapest 6400MHz 64GB kit I see is the PVV564G640C32K (Patriot Viper 64GB 6400MHz and I'm guessing CL32).
>>103261308Best advice when using any form of watercooling is to have an emergency air cooler on the ready so you can keep using your PC in case your loop runs into problems. If your CPU came with a stock fan you're all set, otherwise grab an Arctic.
>>103261381i dont have a lot of money on card (basically my whole budget), but since i have to go in person to order this anyway cause their fucking purchasing wont work for some reason, you think they would let me buy some stuff with cash as well?And if so, what else should i purchase with the cash?
>>103261413Yeah that's how Microcenter works. They get you in the door with good bundles and hope you buy something else to make up their margin. Never having shopped there I can't tell you if they'll let you split the bill like that but IME most stores will. You should call them and ask.
>>103261003Big tower is the American way :^)
>>103261389why
>>103261413Is split tender not common where you live? Its pretty basic. Never heard of anyone saying no to it but its safe to ask anyway.
Silent wings pro 4 or wait for nfa14 g2
I get very rare and short power outages but they still annoy me. A UPS would be extreme overkill and I don't want to deal with noise and maintenance, so is there any alternative (maybe something smaller or based on capacitors)?
>>103261485What's wrong with the current NF-A14? Anyway I wouldn't spend so much on fans unless they're Noctuas.
I wish I knew about that 12900k deal going for like 150 dollars
7600x a good upgrade from a 5600? theyre going for sub 200 bones atm
>>103261456sorry, this is my first ever Pc thats going to get made for me, so i would like to get as much value for it for as long as i can, also cautious
>>103260778no, too much
>>103261502(nta) Its performance doesn't justify the price any more. It's still "good" but you can't charge $25 for a PC fan if it isn't "the best".
>Could have bought the Nova restock that happened ~15 mins ago>Decided againstAm I really missing out on anything by getting the $100 cheaper Steel Legend? I don't need 5 M.2 slots, 3 (1xGen5, 2xGen4) is more than enough. I don't care if using all 3 M.2 slots disables the PCIE_2 slot on the Steel Legend, because I have never used a 2nd PCIE slot. The GPU Ez release is probably nice, but I've never had trouble without it before, and I don't fuck around with my PC that much once its assembled. What I can't assess the value of is the backplate, 5G lan instead of 2.5G and a 20+2+1 Power Phase versus 14+2+1. What does a backplate even do and why would I need one? Would I even be likely to be able to utilize 5G Lan as someone with burger internet? Is 14+2+1 enough to overclock a 9800x3d to moderate/respectable speed? If anyone could help with these questions, that would be great, because these are the only things giving me FOMO to buy a $350 Mobo.
>>103261526not really, you would need a new mobo and 5600 is generally fine at 1440p if you got a mid tier gpu outside of some "we coded npc ai like shit lmao, buy a 9800x3d for less unreal 5 stutter ;D! titles
>>103261526Nope, if you're gonna change platform you should really go for a more significant upgrade like a 7800X3D, but if I were you I'd wait, the 5600 is still good enough.
>>103261357New
>>1032615265700x3d drop in upgrade for like 130-150. Better than 7600 in cpu bpund games
>>103260938> Also would it work to add another identical 2x8GB kit or is getting 4 sticks to work a gamble?Worked with B-die on a X370 mobo here but had to lower clocks from 3800 to 3733CL16.
>>1032615715700x3D is over 200 dollars. not sure where youre getting 130-150 for one
>>103261308AIOs are "minimal maintenance" as long as they work, but that does not mean they are immune to all the bullshit problems involved with water cooling. The pump can fail, water can slowly evaporate, the plates will need cleaning because they may get clogged which kills the water flow, etc.So if anything breaks, you'll need to top them up with coolant, or even take them apart, scrub the cold plate with a toothbrush if it is clogged (repeatedly if there's more gunk in the tubes), change the pump if it failed, and so on. Not so fucking minimal maintenance.vs. with even a cheap air cooler, nothing will fail, at worst you may need to change the fans every 4 years IF you find them getting noisier as their bearings wear out, or redo the thermal paste... both which you also have to do with AIOs too anyway.there are amazing quality air coolers now, you don't have to bother with AIOs.
>>103261588~180 on neweggwas 150 last week
>>103261588Newegg has had it for 150 recently. Many people in this thread bought it from aliexpress for as low as 125 after coupon
>>103261601then can you soonfeed me a good air cooler on my build so i dont have to possibly suffer?
>>103260752>for BF?Stop being gay, you silly boy!
>>103261613Phantom Spirit 120 SE
I wonder why the AW32 is so recommended by the op, is it because dells warranty and service generally? still don't have a fucking discount code that works
>>103261613peerless assassin, id-cooling se-207-xtid-cooling makes noctua tier shit, just with weaker fans. even their mounting system is the same, I could mount a nh-u12a on the mounting bracket of a id-cooling is-55.
>>103261248Changed to include the fans instead of an AIOhttps://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=03367740-e496-4e94-8b40-1efd3be2d52cCan i use the saved money to improve the "quick start bundle" somewhat?
>>103261573One of the kits I tried at the time was B-die and it wouldn't even POST once.
>>103261502Noctuas are a meme
>>103261649>noctua tier shitlifetime warranty status?
>>103261693They're a meme until you see how autistically they honor their warranty system (and you learn to abuse it).
>>103261693>mechanical device that works 15 years later the same as the day you bought it is a memereddit brainrot. I net you hate the noctua colors too kid
>>103261693it's a boutique brand with almost comical levels of sophistication. not something you buy for money or price/performance. that's what God gave us Arctic for.
>>103261679Please help, i am Going to go into the store tomorrow
>>103261679Make sure to note down price differences on Amazon and Newegg as they price match.That Phantom Spirit for instance is $35
>>103261745well the cpu and gpu are wrong but otherwise it looks fine
>>103261776what do you mean by that?
>>103261556>ts performance doesn't justify the price any more.The recent G2 noctuas are considered the best performance 140mm fans on the market (at a considerable markup).>>103261693Their heatsinks, sure, but their fans are crazy good in literally all edge cases you can think of. bearings last fucking forever, startup voltage/pwm is lower than any other fan and extremely consistent and reliable, they may have the same noise level in dBa as other coolers but at a different frequency that is more pleasant to the ears, etc. And their warranty is ridiculously good. Like, if you make a recording for a 12 year old fan that it developed a dull, slightly audible clicking due to the bearings wearing out, THEY WILL REPLACE IT FREE OF CHARGE despite it being out of warranty and the fan otherwise working perfectly. It's fucking absurd.>>103261706No clue about their warranty, but as far as I can tell they have similar build quality but at the lowest possible margin they can get away with. Like, 1/3rd or even 1/4th the price. I don't know the fans they use, they look like they use similar blade arrangements but I honestly never used them because I have a bunch of spare noctuas.
>>103261795https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhugRD_XngM
>>103261795I mean you're doing am5 system and 9800x3d is out but you're buying a 9700x thats on ones wish list.Then the gpu is amd, like it'll work but its problamatic in couple ways. The nvidia upscaling and frame gen produce better quality and 50xx gpus are coming out in few months so now is the worst time to buy a gpu.
>>103261118Full sized or 80% (aka TKL) are the only two valued options. The TK is literally for office drone work given that if you need a ton of buttons to hit on demand these days you can buy a mouse designed specifically for MMO's and run a macro off each button (usually with software that they provide), consequently nullifying their entire reason for existing in the first place since you never need to move your left hand or take your right hand off the mouse. Economy of movement, baby. But for FPS players? Retardation, mostly. Using a 60% or some shit isn't going to make you better at Valorant.
>>103261808>like it'll work but its problamatic in couple wayswhat should i get instead is what i am asking
>>103261822tldr keypad isnt used for anything and gets in the way of the mouse
>>103261826wait until 5070 comes out in few months
>>103261798>The recent G2 noctuas are considered the best performance 140mm fans on the market...Yeah that's what I'm saying. If you make the best you can charge what you want. If you make something good but not exceptional you have to compete on price.FWIW, I own both a G1 A14 and a SW4 and I'm very happy with them. I just wouldn't recommend paying the big bucks for either when improved models are (almost) available.
>>103261838i'm really not trying to play the latest AAA slop, just casual games
>>103261827Precisely.
>>103261853well the new cpu is gonna be more energy efficient, run quieter for same perf, and have more features and support for the future
>>103261853He's saying that you would be saving yourself money (maybe) and get better performance if you wait on the GPU, but if you absolutely must insist on getting a GPU now then you do you.
When I installed windows fresh my asus motherboard notified me about armory crate, does that mean it loaded shit into my windows? Do I want this, or should I disable it in the bios and reinstall windows?
>>103261872>if you absolutely must insist on getting a GPU now then you do you.All i am asking is if what i have is good for right now
>>103261898no since a new cpu gen is launching in few months
>>103261888It's just mobo software. You can uninstall it if you don't want it, no need to reinstall windows
>>103261693nawk tuah
So my new build doesnt turn on whatsoever. 265k4080 super32gb 6400mhz ddr5z890 aorus elite wifi71000w evga 1000gtI tried the jumper test on the PSU and that worked fine. I tried booting with everything disconnected or swapping the ram. The ONLY thing that changed is that there is a tiny amber light labeled DRAM which turns on when I try booting without any ram at all. Seems like it might be a mobo issue and I kinda want to blame the fucking Liquid Freezer III for being such a pile of shit to mount that I was almost using full strength on the screws and it still wont mount correctly. I have a replacement mobo and different cooler coming but fuck
>>103261942>265kpeople really buy the new gen intel?
>>103261919It's not some root kit? The bios must have installed something to have a fresh windows install with no internet access notify me about it. That concerns me.
>>103261942Probably ram in the wrong slots. Potentially bad ram from the factory but unlikely
>>103261942sounds like you broke something.
>>103261942Did you try a single 8gb 5600 stick or something just to see if it's the ram?
>>103261798> The recent G2 noctuas are considered the best performance 140mm fans on the marketHow much better than beQuiet Silent Wings 4 can they possibly be? Noise level to performance wise?I'm absolutely satisfied with my Silent Wings, how much more satisfaction can nawk tuahs give?
>>103261798Is it really better than silent wings pro?
>>103261350please respond
>>103261949Its a good chip, way better than my 8700k and it's in the OP>>103261955I tried every configuration of ram there is. A2B2 is the recommended position for that board>>103261967I'll try that tomorrow when I get to a store but I dont think bad ram will cause this board to not power on at all.
>>103260716the Xiaomi G Pro 27i should be on the 1440p monitor recommendationshttps://www.pcworld.com/article/2463736/xiaomi-g-pro-27i-monitor-review.htmlhttps://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/gaming-monitors/xiaomi-g-pro-27i-27-inch-qhd-180-hz-gaming-monitor-reviewhttps://gamerant.com/xiaomi-mini-led-gaming-monitor-g-pro-27i-review/https://www.mmorpg.com/hardware-reviews/xiaomi-g-pro-27i-review-2000132827
>>103260739what's wrong with curved
>>103262002I had an am5 board that wouldn't post (just error light) with 6000 speed ram, multiple kits. Slower & smaller worked fine.
>>103262040nothing, it makes the sides be closer to your eyes leading to significantly less distortion
why reason why i shouldn't get the alienware aw3225qf?
>>1032620475090 is gonna cost like 2k+and you need it for running games 4k dlss balanced at reasonable framerates
Who the fuck buys curved monitors? The market for them can't be that big to necessitate so many companies making them.
i cant decide between making a micro atx lian li dan with no frills or making a regular atx in a fractal north with interior aesthetics in mind...Seems you can get anything you virtually want fit into micro atx except an extra pci card slot, Which I would only use for a USB hub or similar anyway
Is SP good for SSDs or should I keep looking?
>>103262040fucks with geometric perfectionI looked at a curved one in store but it was uw and retardcurved like 800r i think so way more and it was nastybut this is way lessidk, 32 without curve is fine and unneccesary>>103262046>distortion leads to less distortionhmmm>>103262047get a discount code for -10% off and it might prolly be the cheapest from dell In other newsI can literally get the C4 42" for 720€ from LG right now it's pretty tempting.. seems pretty good
>>103262102>buying a SATA SSD in the year of our Lord 2024Christ.
>>103262102SSDs are commodities - check the internals and decide if they're right for your use case. I believe the A55 is a cheapo DRAMless SATA so it'd be fine for bulk media but not as an OS drive.
>>103262108>hmmmYep, the distance from your eyes to the pixels should stay the same if the pixel is in the middle or in the sides of the display.
>>103262116Is there something wrong with that, I just need more Storage and HDDs die too easily. My Friend said to not even bother with HDDs because of that.>>103262122Thanks anon and yeah its not going to be for my OS. I have an M.2 for that, is it worth having 2 M.2s btw or is that overkill?
>>103262162>is it worth having 2 M.2s btw or is that overkill?It doesn't really matter for a data drive. You're mostly just price shopping - sometimes an M.2 will be cheaper based on what deals are running at the time.Generally NVMe should be preferred since it has the option of HMB and more theoretical durability but slots are obviously at a premium so you might want to keep that open for something slightly more demanding than bulk media.
>Waiting all day for 4tb 990 to come in>It got here 5hrs ago>No notice Oh. Okay.
will 5090 be enough for 4k gayming?>inb4 hurr durr 4090 already is
>>103262207..did you buy it before it went on sale?
>>103262239Had same day delivery and bought it at like 5am
>>103262245where are you located in the world for this to be possible
>>103262250NYC
>>103262259but i live in nyc and ive never been able to get a same day delivery on stuff like this. it's usually overnight 4am - 8am at the earliest
>>103261447Vram packages arent as even as dies so medium that is more malleable and can fill in those gaps are better. Also less stress on your cooler since they squish out => better gpu core temperature and less likely to get weird hotspots. Also the top of the line putties are cheaper than pads. The only downside is that cleanup is a bitch.There's is this guy who's been religiously testing a shit load of putties, go look at the data yourself https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1CAJP7ojt3jaGxBrJNTzd1Kp5-gikdh_8?usp=sharing
>>103262263All I can say is that's odd. Though I will also say that I also bought the sn850x and I won't be getting that until next week so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>103262279i have to wait until tomorrow :(
>>103261559pls respond
>>103261984>Is it really better than silent wings pro?Yeah.
>>103262148>sit perfectly in the middle>assume that said screen is perfectly curved>>103262238no/yes until something better is out4090 isn't either
>Just spent £539 on a GPU (4070S)>I'm a poorfag so I deliberated for hours and have anxiety about spending that much>Still need the rest of the pcI have more than enough money for it, but I feel like I'm going to be dead by the end of the month.
>>103262297God I love Hailey. Shame about the rest of the game.
>>103262297if you use 27-32" screens that are flat you probably naturally get led into not using the sides of the panels because stuff looks uncofortable small thereyou literally get more screen real estate by using curvedIf you dont sit in the middle what are you doing, not playing video games or watching anime thats for sure.
>>103262306The game is fun but it’s not grindy enough to keep players playing.
>>103262307only issue I've ever had with curved displays is that they look fucking dumb with multiple monitorsother than that, perfectly fine.
>>103262308They put all the meat on the girls instead of in the game.
>>103262306I don't even know what this game is tbqh>>103262307maybe if you are not further away from the screenalso you need to be close for the curve to make senseI don't even
>>103262321what if you have like curved one middle, the a vertical 2nd panel on the side on a monitor arm?Should look fine
>>103262321>>103262328>curved panels are fine bra
>>103262331honey, adults are talking
>>103262328depends on the curve and size I guess, but it takes desk space in a weird way compared to flat displays if you want to align the monitors bezels-to-bezels but I only owned one weird samsung curved display, might be different with lighter curve monitors like the aw3225qf
>>103262348>1700Ridk, more aggressive curve makes sense because you're not using the monitor from 1.7m away?
>RX 6600 >Ryzen 5 5600 >B550M K >16gb Ram >1tb SSD >Corsair 550W Is this a good build for someone who is poor? Should I go for it? I'm gonna use it for Linux and gaming mostly.
>no good gpu deals for the nth year in a rowKWAB! However I still got something I wanted at a good price. :)
>>103262366try and get 5700x3d at least
>>103262366well for poor people its important to find ways to invest more to get something genuinely good so theres no feeling of needing to upgrade early because you bought cheap shitIn that build 5700x3d would be better value cpu16gb ram is fin1tb ssd is kinda shitty, you'd rather just buy 1x 2tb one since the mobo has limited slots and you run out of space pretty quickly.psu is just about finemobo seems a bit shitty, why does it have vga. Then if it has wifi/bt built in that saves trouble later if you need it.With gpus you'd want to just buy used since gpus generally arent prone to breaking and they simply get more out of the money you invest. Like a used 3080.
>>103262378>>1032623825700x3d would be a waste of money since he'd be capped by the rx6600.
>>103262392it doesnt cost that much and the cpu is more important at lower res + these days you get games with shitty code where cpu bottlenecks arise, npc ai coding is bad, unreal5 has stutters that get minimized with better cpus
>>103262392Depends on the game and if he cares about settings. Strategy games and simulation games benefit a lot from x3d.
>>103262295>Light wings better than silent wingsLmao wat>Noctua still mogged by arcticBruh
How much impact can a case have on temps? I have a really shitty tiny mid tower from 2016 with only 2 case fans and pretty bad cooling, was thinking about getting a newer case.I suppose I could toss in another front case fan as well.
>>103262378>>103262382Thank you so much, this is my first time building a PC so I'm scared to buy parts that aren't compatible with one another.>Like a used 3080But don't AMD parts work better in Linux?
>>103262428they reduce temps significantly which leads to lower noise fractal torrent should good, or fractal north
>>103262438>But don't AMD parts work better in Linux?I dont think thats important in 2024Compatability fears can be eased with online part checkers that will alert if anything major is wrong.The biggest issues would come from trying to buy parts for a small case, a normal atx case its less problematic.
>>103262425>Noctua still mogged by arcticthe p14 max runs at almost twice the rpm + noise for less than 3% better performance, so if anything it's noctua doing the mogging.
>>103262438If you're going linux 7700xt maybe? Someone else can put their two cents in on this, I'm not an amd gpu guy. I'd be concerned with PSU, they tend to draw more power than nvidia. But honestly the difference isn't that big these days, I was able to use my 3070 in linux
So do we wait for g2 chromax or will other competitors make something better by the time?
so what's the call anons, getting a X870 SL or wait for the unobtainium B650 Steel Legend and X870E Nova to come back in stock
>>103262366yes
>>103260716Has Black Friday really "started" yet? I heard today is the first day of the big sales week
>>103262040It messes with games that are not developed with curved displays in mind but with flat.
>>103262627Proof?
>>103260716Is KOORUI 24E3 the best budget monitor?
>>103262645in the west probably, hard to beat the value
>>103262162> HDDs die too easily. My Friend said to not even bother with HDDsDivorce your friend and get picrel for archiving.
>>103262238>>inb4 hurr durr 4090 already isit is for me but then again I don't play unreal engine 5 type shit that everyone's crying about latelymost of the games I play lately don't have dlss either
>>103260716what's a good m-atx mobo for the 9800X3D under 200€
>>103262238> 5090 be enough for 4k gayming?Depends on your target fps and if you accept DLSS or not.
>>103262661Asrock B650M HDV/M.2
I haven't done this in years, is there any reason why I shouldn't get this motherboard. I'm not sure if there's any manufacturers to go for or avoid concerning them>MSI PRO Z790-A MAX WIFI ATX LGA1700https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CsvD4D/msi-pro-z790-a-max-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-a-max-wifi
Probably an insane question but do they make desktop mobos with Oculink ports? I've just bought a Rog Ally X and I'd love to be able to buy a gpu enclosure and share my 4080 between my handheld and my main PC.
>>103262295I will buy Arctic over nawk tuah now. Thx for the tip.
>>103262604>Has Black Friday really "started" yet?1:27AM right now so yes.
>>103262238No one says a 4090 is enough for 4K. 4K is such a stupid and demanding meme that you need all the power you can get. While it's no PS5 Pro, which can easily do 5K as it says on the box, the 5090 should be a significant leap due to all the new architectural changes coming. It'll also likely be $2,000. You'll still have to use DLSS though.
>>103262604On Amazon it has apparently. Guess we do Black Friday Week now.
>>103262302> £539You could have bet on some Snooker game and multiplied it.
Does anyone have any experience buying through the Dell store? I'm a little leery of it but Amazon's out of that monitor the OP recommends.
>>103262637Buy a curved display and you will see it.
why do i see so much complaints about 12 gb on 5070? is it really that small nowadays? been using a 3070 7.5 gb vram
>>103262700I bought a laptop from there 10 years ago and it was fine. They tried to add a warranty to it at several steps but I made sure to turn that off.
>>103261601>>103261601Just get a German engineered AIO like Arctic's amazing quality Liquid Freezer III, you don't have to bother with Motherless Assassins.
>>103262692Is there a way to bypass the "GET PRIME NOW" black friday "Specials" where you have to have a prime subscription to use half of them?
>>103262692week? more like month
I tested my cpu with prime95 (9800x3d) and it's at 66 degrees. It uses a 360mm aio. But when I run the GPU and both cpu and gpu are at 100% the cpu temp gets up to 88 degrees, despite the water temp still being 37. Is the gpu just putting out too much heat or is the cpu water cooler not attached properly? Not sure if this is normal.
>>103262743yes. get prime :)pretty sure it's offered at a discount for students or people on some form of social security
>>103262751what case do you have? if it's tiny and the gpu is dumping heat all over it then yeah it's gonna rise but I wouldn't have thought by that much
>>103262738I had a german engineered Alphacool and even that one had pump issues and I had to take it all apart and install a replacement. Fuck water cooling.
I want to make videos, youtube videos what kind of PC and stuff do I need to do all that?
>>103262743get prime, buy your shit, refund prime
>>103262751Prime95 doesn't put much stress on the CPU. Try IntelBurnTest (aka linpack xtreme) which is one of the most demanding stress tests south of using AVX.
I want to pick up a 4070 ti super but can't decide on a model after reading some reviews.Some say ASUS cards are made poorly, other say the TUF line are the premium card line that run silently.Some say Gigabyte are the middle of the road card line, others say that they have poor customer service and use low quality parts.That MSI make terrible cards and to never pick up the Ventus line. No actually MSI make great cards and have good customer support.Coil whineetc, etcSo I am asking for some guidance. If I want a 4070 TiS, and am not going to put it through the wringer, what should I be looking at?
>>103262766It's a hyte y70. I kept the cpu test going and stopped the gpu one so it wasn't at 100% and the temp goes back to 66 quite quickly. That's why I assumed the gpu was heating up the inside of the case. But maybe I need to rescrew the aio back in or reapply the paste, I don't know.
>>103262841Gigabyte IS middle of the road and they have shoddy customer support because its basically automated with little help TUF line is typically their better stuff but its like comparing a supermarket to walmart MSI can be good and their customer support back when I needed them was helpful for my RMA but they kinda fucked my fans on my old card and it sounded like a jet engine ever since I got it back(gave it to my brother but its been running fine so eh)
>>103262200Thanks for the advice anon and yeah I meant an M.2 NVME. I'll either go for an SSD or HDD because I need a lot of Storage and plan on archiving as much as I can.>>103262653Is Toshiba the preferred HDD Brand for archiving? They are kind of pricey but I'll have a look around, is picrel good for a SeaGate 8TB HDD btw? I'm ngl I'm kind of on a budget and this isn't much, I am looking into building a NAS in the near future.
>>103262854What does your CPU idle at?
>>103262052i don't really play any new games at all i currently have a 6800xt
>>103262108where can i get a discount code from?
>>10326290234 degrees, and it's 19 in the room.
Absolute fucking retard hereWhat's the #1 top of the line CPU right now? Is it the 9800x3d? The 9950X? I don't understand these naming schemes.Apparently AMD is slowly releasing more 9000-series CPUs, should I wait for a 9950x3d? Is that going to be a thing? I've been destitute for the past several years and finally have a job, I want to treat myself to some top of the line stuff.
>>103260716How much do TDP and CPU temps actually matter?
>>103262941just dont buy intel and you should be fine
>>103262941It depends on your cooling and psu and your own tolerance.
>>103262941TDP only matters if you're skirting the line with your PSU or running parts notorious for spikes.CPU temps only matter if you're running budget/midrange with poor cooling, or exclusively doing prolonged high-load shit.
any estimate on when the nVidia RTX cards are coming out, and when the next Ryzen chips are coming out? Wondering if I should buy Ryzen 7 or 9 now, or wait for a new line to drop and buy the current-newest line at a discount.I bought this Ryzen 5 as a placeholder a while ago, because i had to upgrade my mobo for new ram, and thus needed a newer chipset as well. I told myself I'd buy a more powerful CPU shortly, and then... forgot.I'm starting to feel the pain being CPU bottlenecked in higher end games these days, and my GPU is feeling a bit old now too. I usually like to buy the second-newest gen stuff, because it ends up so cheap while the newest gen stuff is usually more expensive without a proportional power difference cost-wise.
Im trying to get a good deal on a desktop for Black friday. A coworker told me i should get a 4070 super on amazon and a cheap prebuilt with integrated graphics to upgrade. Anyone know of a good prebuilt that would mesh well with a 4070 super?
So realistically if I were to sell my old build which consists of these parts around what could I get for it? Also what's a good place to sell old custom builds?I have a new build i'm looking at and I would like to know how much I could recoup from my old PC
>>103262885If you're cold storage archiving I'd just get as many TB for as low as possible that's usually used enterprise drives from WD/HGST from places like serverpartdeals.com. Do note these drives are a lot louder than regular drives.If you want to use that in a NAS/Server I'd also buy used drives but always double the amount needed for offline backup or you can forgo that and cloud backup if you trust a cloud service. IF you want to buy new drives, usually Seagate Ironwolf or WD Red are the ones to get but WD have been overpricing their shit way too much recently imo. Toshiba is fine too, The Barracudas are Seagate's cheapest drives, fine for storage and access not really for 24/7 use. I had one running in a NAS for a couple years thinking it was fine but Seagate's gonna Seagate and it went and corrupted a bunch of shit. Replaced it with a WD Red. But that is a decent price for a new 8TB HDD.
>>103262841MSI is chinese junk tier.ASUS is either best tier or it burns down your CPU. Plus they have brand tax in their prices and their support is downright scamming you into buying a new item.Gigabyte used to be the best but they fell down a lot over the years, they are still respectable however.If I had to buy a new board it would be either Gigabyte or Asrock.>>103262885Toshiba and HGST are the best brands for HDDs. Seagate is mcdonalds tier (cheap, plentiful, bad for your health). WD is a mix of their own drives (for low size items, RED PLUS drives) or HGST (for high size items, they acquired HGST and keep it as a brand).If you want to do archiving, only buy helium drives. They are higher end and higher capacity. Anything non-helium is either too small to be worth it over SSDs, or it is consumer garbo tier.And for fucks sake, stay away from Amazon when buying drives, they sell refurbished drives (which in reality have 50k hours in them), sometimes even OEM/white label ones, with packaging so bad you'll be crossing your fingers so they still work. They are cheap for a reason, only really worth it if you are building ZFS Z2 arrays.
>>103262941disable turbo clocks and you'll never have to worry about CPU temps even with the stock cooler. that idiocy puts an extra 30C on every CPU just so it can get 5% better performance.>>1032629139800X3D at the moment.
>>103262913I'd just get the 9800X3D if gaming is your main use case. 9950x3d is going to be a thing but after 7950X3D "install xbox game bar to make our CPU work" garbage who knows how it'll turn out.
>>103263004>9800X3D at the moment.Thank you. Is there anything better releasing in the next 3-6 months or should I just lock one in?
hello and thanks. >overall goals60 fps locked probably>considerationssolid reliability, great thermals, no need to reflash bios if I can avoid it >QIs there anywhere I can substantially improve this for up to $200 more? also is this more suited to 1440p or 4k at 60 fps? I will be playing monster hunter wilds and I like to do up to intermediate level modding. Enjoy this picture of a deer outside my house yesterday https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NLT7h7
>>1032629789800X3D just came out, get that one.RTX 5000 will be announced in CES 2025, so some time in January, with availability god knows when.>>103262986the GPU, case, and maybe power supply can be resold assuming you have all the boxes and so and they are in good condition. However you are better off re-using all of those.The rest is junk, you can get a 5600G for $50 on ebay and it shits over the 3600 and has a decent igpu.
>>103263015Possibly, but then you'll be asking the same question in 6 months and you'll never be buying anything.
>>103261559Just get the Nova you fuckerShame it looks awful on Z890 board...>backplateJust for sturdiness and aesthetics, the VRM space is still empty so I doubt it would do anything to temps>5G lan instead of 2.5GNo value for (you)> 20+2+1 Power Phase versus 14+2+1Only you want to get 9950x and rape it 300 watts>Is 14+2+1 enough to overclock a 9800x3dEven a 6 phases are enough for 80 watts, what's really important is what components were used, drmos? Drmos with SPS? Or just some chink shit with parallelized mosfets? Just get the Nova so you don't regret about it later.
>>103263025This is your current pc? It's hard to find 5800X3Ds now and that machine is basically top of AM4 spec unless you want to drop a 4090 into it.
>>103263039No, I'm not a waitforever fag. If something like a 9950x3d is coming out in a month or two, I'll get that instead of settling on a midrange like the 9800x3d.
i can't decide on a 4k monitor
>>1032630159950X3D will be announced at the CES in January. I already got an Asrock Nova waiting for it.
>>103263046If*It*
>>103263049wait for ryzen 10000, they are moving to 16 core/32 thread per chiplet.>>103263053get a 1440p monitor.
>>103263025you're spending too much on old hardware
>>103263047no I only have a laptop atm. I want to have all of my parts ordered by December. I am very out of the loop on all this
>>103263053Budget? OLED?
>>103262162Get a nvm2 m.2 SSD. They're like 10X the speed.
>>103262945>just dont buy intel and you should be fineWasn't planning on it. Those numbers scare me.>>103262952>It depends on your cooling and psu and your own tolerance.PSU has me covered, but my air cooler is an old budget model iirc. I'm not too fond of the room getting unnecessarily hot, but I don't know how much difference 70-100W of power will make.>>103262965>CPU temps only matter if you're running budget/midrange with poor cooling, or exclusively doing prolonged high-load shit.'Good' cooling is just matching the CPU cooler TDP with the CPU TDP, right? And I assume prolonged high load shit is only for very extreme cases, and not everyday workstation use, plus rendering and whatnot.>>103263004>disable turbo clocks and you'll never have to worry about CPU temps even with the stock coolerI'll try that, and see how it works. Recent CPUs don't seem to have stock coolers anymore. One of the reasons I'm asking is because I'd like to get a stronger processor, without having to splurge on another cooling solution.
>>103263057no>>103263062i'm willing to spend up to 1koled sounds nice but i'm a little worried about burn inhow big of an issue is it?
>>103263033I'm shocked to say this, but the PC i'm looking at right now is a pre-built and it's got all the parts I was going to get anyway for cheaper than if I bought them all separately. So I was hoping I could just sell of my old PC as is for some extra money.
>>103263059see >>103263058It's pointless to go on AM4 now, you want to build on AM5, a Ryzen 7000 cpu with say a B650 motherboard
>>103261559Sorry, but your questions are so retarded that I think it really doesn't matter what you buy.
>>103262978Ryzen CPUs just came out not long ago, they don't even have the entire new X3D lineup out. RTX 5000 should be coming early next year, high-end (5090 & 5080 probably) first.
>>103263073just get an old model for half the price oled is not a new technology
>>103263025Would go for 7800x3d with steel legend or riptide board. 32gb of cl30 ram and minimum 4070s or 4070tis/4080
Good mobo for 9800x3D? Finally was able to get one of those fuckers at msrp
>>103263073>how big of an issue is it?You'll get only meme answers here.If you want to trust me:Guaranteed within 2-3 years, which is why buying new with warranty is almost mandatory.Depending on model + luck + workload, can happen as early as three months. You can google "oled burn in three months" and get dozens of stories if you want proof.A lot of newer oleds claim to be burn in resistant but what it actually means is it fucks with your colors to keep you from noticing, which makes it useless if you care about color accuracy in productivity.There's also firmware issues out the ass, like some Samsung qd-oled monitor that accidentally forced a burn in within a month if you forgot to update.
>>103263081ok I will go back to the drawing board and come back with an updated built tomorrow. Thanks
is the r7 9700x worth the jump in price compared to the r5 9600x?
>>103263131
>>103263200Thanks, are the x870 any better?
>>103263199If you need it for rendering or something sure but if you're just gonna play fortnite there's no point
I really shouldn’t have bought this OLED. I WFH and mainly browse and game the whole day if not running errands outside.It was stupid.I’m stupid.
>>103263241Better at what? Running your cpu without throttling? No. Better at looking cool in your forum signature? Sure.
>>103263200Didn't they go on to say that mobo temp was a pass/fail metric, and the measurement wasn't important outside of that?It's the Hardware Unboxed b650 vid, if anyone wants to double check
>>103263200Retard here, how does a motherboard affect pc temps??Is the board itself getting hot?
>>103263281As you can see 25% of the boards can't run the cpu and that means they don’t pass.>>103263288They have to put electricity in the cpu somehow and the little electronic doodads that convert 12V DC to a more palatable 1.2V will get hot.
>>103263131B650 steel legend is really good
>>103262988I'll check it out anon thanks, I might do a Cold Storage later on, would a Server Rack be overkill for that? There are some cheap1s near me. So a Barracuda wouldn't be good for Gaming, I was hoping to use it for 5 years maybe 10 years. I am willimg to spend a little more if it means its better in quality.>>103262994I've seen a lot of HGST HDDs for as low as $80 for 10TB, maybe its time to snipe a few of them but those are on Amazon so. And thanks anon I don't know a whole lot about HDDs but I want at least 50TB of Storage just incase.>And for fucks sake, stay away from Amazon when buying drivesThanks for the headsup anon, I haven't bought anything yet but I can checkout BestBuy, maybe Target will be good I've heard they have a few good Tech deals happening...What about NewEgg? Only reason I haven't used it is because I was banned for buying a MOBO&RAM, then unbanned like a Week later for some reason.>>103263070I know but there more pricey, I can put up to 2 in my MOBO so depending on how much I may get another just for my Games.
>>103263265why are you stupid, because you use a monitor a lot?you can always buy some shitty ips monitor to keep static elements up 24/7 and only use oled for gaming/anime.
>>103263073>worried about burn inresident oledfag here and I mostly agree with >>103263132 burn-in can both happen exceptionally fast or moderately slow depending on how you use it and if you take care of it.currently I would not recommend any OLED as a main display unless you have casual hours (2-3 hours a day) and only consume dynamic media (vidya or animu).>>103263265I don't get why people WFH have an obsession with OLED, it's literally the most pointless and inappropriate thing you could buy for that.anyways regret is part of the deal when you buy OLED, comes with the realization that your $1k monitor is killing itself for you to browse the web
Would Amazon even notice or care if you shuck a drive, put a broken one in, and then return it and say it isn't working and try to get a refund? Has anybody tried this?
>>103263265>I WFH and mainly browse and game the whole dayenjoy your timebomb it'll be great until IT ALL BURNS BURNS BURNS BURNS
>>103263312>I know but there more pricey, I can put up to 2 in my MOBO so depending on how much I may get another just for my Games.https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV92XSMG/Its only $20 more expensive for 18X more speed. ~400 MB/s vs 7400 MB/s. The perf difference is HUGE. >I only have 2 slotshttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B088GW4JXW/2 extra slots for $5.
i fear my i7-6700k is finally entering old age
when do we get new amd gpus
>>103263359That's a lot of effort for just saying you lost it and demanding they send you a new one
>>103263359gtfo non-white retard
>>103263359Not this anon but I have this exact External Hard Drive at 4TB, whats stopping me from just taking it out and chucking it into my PC?
>>103263401Nothing. I have an 8TB, and I sucked it out and put it in my NAS. It's just a hollow enclosure.
I need a new mouse/keyboard pad, but I don't want one made out of fabric because it accumulates dead skin and there's no way to clean the fuckers, so I am looking for a rigid one but I'm not certain what to search for.
how do i improve my RAM speeds? i have 2x32GB dual rank memory installed thank you
>>103263365turn your old machine into a nas
>>103263432Just change the numbers in photoshop. You literally will not know the difference, ram speed is placebo.
>>103263432buy a legally purchased copy of AIDA64, you brown-skinned retard
>>103263432go into bios and increase your ram speedthaiphoon burner will tell you what ram you have so you can cheat and copy timings from other people
>>103263365You'll be enjoying it for a while, all new shit has various stability issues. No newer computer I've had has been as solid as my 6700k.
I've seen several bad reviews for the nzxt c850 2024 model. People saying they came DOA. It seemed a bit too good to be true for the price anyway.
What are some of the better priced AMD cpus to look out for on Aliexpress? R7 5700X3D looks good on Ali, anything else? Is RAM something you should avoid on Ali?
8GB VRAM was a mistake
Is there a website where I can go and compare all these GPU variations?Find out exactly what the difference between OG, OC, and OG + OC is?I know very little about GPU speak. Is it just marketing?
>move to new house>LG monitor suddenly not connecting to my PC even after dusting my tower and swapping HDMI cables How the fuck do I fix this shit? It should be working just fine like everything else I have connected.
just bought the aw3225qfhow bad did i fuck up
>>103263470You sure you have it plugged into the GPU instead of the motherboard?
>>103263470plug it in
>the MSI monitor was only discounted by $100 while the ASUS one was discounted by $300. I am beginning to shake the buyer's remorse now. It's only a hundred dollars more than the MSI after the discount, has better features, and comes with G-Sync.
If I have to replace my AM4 mobo due to it being a pile of shit is it still worth going with 5700x3d or at that point should I just move to AM5? Cost to stay on AM4 with 5700x3d and replace mobo would be about $220. Cost to move to AM5 with 7600x3d would be about $400. AM5 is the move at this point right?
>>103263475Burn in 6 months.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIYd5HDJQ_8
>>103263444i don't have any funds dedicated to the EU mind virus "services" industry. sorry
>>103263459Just click on the specs tab. Or I am sure some autist has created a spreadsheet.
>>103263494Just get the 9800x3D at this point if you're chucking away your motherboard.
>>103263494dead mobo + want new cpu = platform upgrade
>>103263362Thank you anon :)
>>103263502I know 9800x3d is the best but I don't have a GPU on the level that would make spending almost $500 on just the CPU worth it. Is the 7600x3d that bad? I'm coming from a 3600x, my GPU is a 3070Believe me I have thought about just saying fuck it and getting the 9800x3d. Maybe it is worth it even though future proofing is not real
>>1032634321. find your max stable FCLK by booting in async mode (keep RAM speed the same while increasing FCLK incrementally), almost always 1866-1900 MHz2. increase your memory speed to match your max FCLK3. lower memory timings, start by setting tRC to <= 60 and tRRDS/tRRDL/tFAW to 4/4/16 or 4/6/16 (these are crutches to make bad memory sticks stable)4. draw the rest of the fucking owl3200 16-18-18 could be literally anything, so you should read this: https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md
What's the easiest way to OC with AMD through the BIOS? I know there are two functions everyone says to turn on and just call it a day after undervolting.
What's the best SSD SATA to run the OS, I've got a nvme but I want to dedicate it entirely for gaymes. Running Windows on it while working is grinding my gears.
>>103261679I think i will wait a few days so i can have abigger budget
>>103263530get a regular 7600 non X. 3D is a meme and ramlet cope.
>>103263550that is a dumb idea. Run everything on the nvme
Is it normal for motherboard usb ports to be flaky? It seems like every so often I reboot and have to unplug and plug back in my keyboard or mouse. What would cause this?
i'm finally done, nabbed the merc310 7900xtx for CAD$1000 (so like US$700) from the amazon black friday sale, now just have to wait for itbig shuriken 3 rev B feels a bit out of place here (leftover from old build) though lol
>>103263559https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awz_CG2320Ehow is this cope?
>>103263566On AMD? Yes
>>103263559The cost is almost identical for me due to the bundles. I was told performance is better with the x3d chip for games
>>103263561I know about the bottle neck when it comes to write/read due to the SATA interface, but that's not a problem for me, I just need something faster than a 7200rpm hdd. And I'm protective of my nvme.
>>103263573Why? How do I fix it?
>>103263570they use slow ram in their tests
>>103263574why not just get the 9600x? it shits on the anything below the 7800x
hmthe 27" 1440p OLED monitor is also availalbe for CAD$800
>>103263566How old is your bios
>>103263586What does Canada Version even mean?
>>103263590Samsung has a different warranty in Canada for some reason.
>>103263590samsung is weird with warranty hereif yoou dont buy the canada version, you dont have a warranty or something really tedious at leastI remember looking into it long ago and basically started buying WD or anything else for SSDs because of that, maybe it's changed now who knows
>>103263589I updated it a few days ago, and disabled fast boot.
>>103263583Truly? I have not heard this anywhere and benchmarks don't seem to reflect this in any meaningful way. More efficient maybe, but not that much more powerful
How easy is building a PC
>>103263630Easier than you think.Hardest part is the PSU connections, and maybe the seating of the CPU due to nervousness.
>>103263630the hardest part is picking the parts
>>103263630Really easy just watch a YouTube Video and follow along, for me the hardest part was the CPU but it was actually easier than expected but I took a few days to build mine because I'm a re+ard and was trying to troubleshoot it thinking I broke something when I just needed to hold down the powerbutton. Also don't screw down your CPU Cooler too hard when you do.
>>103263630the hardest part is putting the RAM in for the first time
>>103263660good thing i have fren sourcing the parts on amazon for me
>>103263630There's a bit of attention to detail required, such as peeling stickers off coldplates and heatsinks and plugging in front panel connectors correctly
>>103263674sounds good
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4qrpb2is this good for mid-gaming?
is this a good bundle for $304? 1) AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 2)Gigabyte B650M gaming plus WiFi mATX board3)Team T-Force Delta RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6400 (PC5 51200) 4)free kingston 1tb nvmethe only thing holding me back is all the shitty review the mobo has...
>>103263693Could pick a different mobo since you're getting an atx case yet you picked a microatx mobo. It's also pretty poorly priced for a b650 board imo. Other than that looks decent.>>103263703That is a good deal for the parts included, the mobo is always the weakest link in bundle deals in my experience. You could replace the mobo and flip that one and still be very happy with what you paid
>>103263703That’s the mobo I got from microcenter with my 7800x3d bundle and it was doa
>>103263678all you need is the power button
>>103263721what would you reccomend i replace it with?M y budget is around 1900
>1080p: KOORUI 24E3, MSI G2412F, MSI MAG 256F, MSI G244PF E2None of those are sold in my country, what are some other good budget monitors?
ugh I feel like I want a 4K screen since i have a 7900XTX on the way but it feels terrible spending that much on a monitorbut 4K 32" is much better DPI than 27" 1440p so tehres thatshould i just work more overtime then
>>103263703the 12700k is just $188 at NewEgg right now and I like it better than Zen 4. might be worth a look desu
>>103263735please help, is my first time getting Pc parts and a Pc in general
>>103263582DDR5 6000 CL30 ram was used in the tests
any good black friday deals on monitors?I need 1080p, >120hz refresh rate, very responsive (cs2, and other gaming). currently have an amd gpu.
>>103263776KTC H24T09PAOC 24G4Those are decent too if they're cheap enough
if I update BIOS because of the degredation issue..is there any reason not to choose a 14600k? price is good and intel is like purpose engineered monolithic desktop chip while amd is repurposed glued together server chip..
>>103263735Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX V2 is a good atx b650 board. Alternatively you can just get an X870 board which tend to be better for features like an Asrock X870 Pro RS or Asrock X870 Steel Legend. I think newegg has some decent deals right now.You're not going to notice a huge difference but I would avoid ASUS if possible
>>103263802Buying into a dead socket is questionable and the mobos are still expensive for reasons. It's probably better than a 7600 though yes
>>103263494If you're happy with your current mobo other than the socket, keep it and get a 5900XT.It's almost 50% better than the 7800X3D for half the price. The only reason it doesn't get recommended is because buying an AM4 board would be retarded, but you already have one.
>>103263859>dead sockettech comes and goes..like in the blink of an eye sometimesthe best parts all have limited runsfor example the rx 6800 xt and aboveif you can buy it new from a major retailer (and it's a reliable brand so not gigabyte) you don't have to worry about future support it will all work fine
>>103263868I am not happy with the current mobo, it was a cheap gigabyte b350 board and it's been dodgy over time. It also lacks features I want. I would not feel comfortable relying on it for another 4 years with a new CPU, put it that way
if there wasnt an equally good deal for a 7700x bundle i woulda just built 5700X3D desuim building my AM5 build with no intention of actually upgrading until AM6 anyways, maybe im still suffering from what intel did to me last decade but the mobo is just a $150 part anyways
>>103263833Is the AOC 24G2S any good?
>>103263902intel has always had only two generations per socket. going back as far as 1st gen Core. and most recently you even got 3 (12th, 13th, 14th). the reason amd can rape a socket for years is because the way they innovate is by buying the new TSMC node when it comes out
>>103263902amd threadripper has like 1 generation per socketthat's where they actually care to make a good product
>>103263932>you even got 3It's the same generation. oh wowee they added 768kB of cache? Revolutionary new architecture.
>>103263906Looks like it's a VA panel from AOC's website. I'd avoid those.https://aoc.com/us/gaming/products/monitors/24g2s
>>103263984>oh wowee they added 768kB of cache?now hold on anon, they also doubled the power draw!
>>103263454>Native 4k is unobtanium for nowFirst crapcoms monster hunter milds and now this, what the fuck are devs doing
Why are X3D ryzen chips so much better than just X chips, at gaming?
>>103263494Why is the mobo a pile of shit?
is 27 inch 4k a waste?
>>103263999amd ryzen has lots of latency between cores (intel has very low latency between adjacent cores) and the cache helps alleviate the latency issuesbecause current tsmc nodes are better than intel's amd edges outbut when intel catches up they will be ahead of amd and amd won't have anything to competejust like with amd vs nvidia where amd has to pull out of high end now
>>103264026no
i can feel it, i am close to leaving this place again, and not coming back until 5 years
>>103264033Intel are using a more advanced node and has worse latency with 15th gen
>>103264033It's not because of core-to-core latencies. It's because the I/O die is physically separate from the core die and the interconnect is slow. But yea it's due to AMD having limited innovation capacity
>>103264033>but when intel catches upby getting their shit made by TSMC too i presume
>>103263721>>103263723>>103263802considering getting the $300 12700k bundle at a local Microcenter instead b/c of the shitty mobo on the AMD deal but then again, the Microcenter bundle only has 16GB RAMwhy can't they just offer a bundle with actual quality components?
>>103263990None of the other ones you mentioned are available on my country as well. *sigh*
>>103264075>why can't they just offer a bundle with actual quality components?Because then they'd lose money. You used to be able to swap the mobo and ram and just pay the difference on any bundle. And before that there used to be a flat $50 discount on any mobo with the purchase of a CPU
>but when intel catches up
What is a good monitor these days? I currently have a mismatched Asus VG248QE and Acer B247W. My build is nearly a decade old (GTX970/i5-4690k 3.5ghz) and I am planning on a big upgrade early next year, but I know monitors on particular can go on sale during Black Friday so I'd like to start thinking ahead.Budget is $400 each for two, I'd be happy to go lower if the quality is still high but the OP looks a bit budget, I expect these to last me a very long time so I'd rather go high. Country is USA, I'm thinking I'll be going for a 4080 but don't know exactly what my upcoming build will look like, it will be in the ~$2500 range (excluding monitor)
>>103263630It took me 9 hours solo to do everything including cable management and rgaybe and post troubleshooting, don't know of that's a good metric or not
>>103260716>1080p: RTX 4070 Super$800 CAD for 1080p gaming... wtf bros
>>10326407115th gen is on N3 whereas Zen5 is on N4.the fact the 9950X outperforms the 285K at everything is embarrassing
For gaming, what AM5 cpu would anon recommend getting from Aliexpress?I already have the AM5 mobo given to me, and was disappointed to learn the 5700X3D is infact AM4
>>1032641127500F
>>103264071yea we're losing the only company that bothers to make good chips. innovation takes time which intel ran out of so now they're forced to use tsmc. none of the competition has respect for the craft. youtubers need to be shamed for making everyone buy amd and depriving them of their chance to get a good chip. germany has 95% amd market share. now i understand why 1933 was able to happen. germans are lack judgement and are anxious so they just copy their peers. germans care so much for power usage you will find all the autistic power optimization threads on german forums (hear me out with corsair rm750x my system idles at 23w instead of 24w with picopsu) and they will still buy and recommend amd. hate dealing with these people
>>103264062That was day one. My 265k build had way better latency results than my current 9950x build. Kinda annoying to be honest
>>103264067>>103264033Intel already does chiller better than AMD for the most part. Current blunders are location of I/o and imc dies. They’re smart enough to fix that by next gen… so I foresee AMD taking to back seat again unless zen 6 actually “innovates”
>>103264154Chiplet *
>>103264136Post latencymon and hwinfo screenshots for both builds
>>103264154AMD cannot engineeralso AMD has new platform security processorwhile Intel CPUs you can reliably disable by nowGerman/Australian secret service is inside AMD cpu
What time is it in India
intel is done
>>103264135dont blame anyone else, it's intel's own fault lolit's not like they didnt have full access to EUVL like TSMC, they funded R&D for it but just never made proper use of itspeaking of the actual machines, ASML is doing pretty good, it's just a problem with intel itself when they went too hard into beancounting in a very competitive industry
>>1032641014090 has been reduced to 4k30fps/1440p gpu now4080 has always been a 1440p card4070 has been reduced to 1080p4060 has been reduced to 1080p30fps or unusable with 8gb version
casual reminder that these ((((people))) want to go back to the days where 4 cores were premium
not one of the reputable motherboard brands cared for its AMD board lineup up until Zen 3 refresh (passive X570) when demand just got so big they couldn't pass it up anymore. they still don't like making and supporting AMD boards
>>103263693https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fhnhqHHow is this for mid-teir gaming?
>>103264200>doesn't need a 300A VRMgee I wonder why board vendors would be upset about not being able to sell $10 worth of components for $300 like they do to intelwhales
>>103264200>tfw got an x570 that has a whiny as fuck pch fan louder than 5 case fans combined because I didn't know better back then>tfw still going to ride it out because of 5800x3d am4 never dies baby
>>103264096The G2724D is on sale for $150 on Dell, not bad for a 2k monitor
>>103264226there's no difference in pricing between amd and intel boards
whats the difference between these?
>>103264247ignore this, im blind i just saw the differencethe $700 one is at 165hz which is more than enough
>>103264247165 hz, 240 hz 15w usbc, 240hz 90w usbc
Do I even have to give a fuck about ATX 3.x if I'm not going to buy Nvidia shit in the foreseeable future
>>103264226the way intel builds cpus is more in the interest of consumers. in the Core lineup you can always clearly make out chips focused on power usage (12th gen H stepping) and chips focused on overclocking (12th gen C stepping). now the issue is youtubers are retarded so they only care for 12900K, 12700K, 12600K which are supposed to be tuned, they don't do that and publish bad results. no one tests the non overclocking chips. everyone buys overclocking chips without being an overclocker. you can see which chips are popular by looking at reviews (12600K 300 reviews, 12600 20 reviews). now motherboard vendors have to build boards with huge VRMs and add markup. if people bought the right chip then vendors would build boards for both overclocking and normal and price accordingly. AMD cpus don't benefit from high power because the engineering is bad. AMD cpu always run close to collapse. you are happy that AMD cpu can't be pushed because it btfo's motherboard vendors alleged overkill VRM. their interest is building cheaper VRM. they can price board however they want and successfully sale because all the vendors cooperate. like how they all conspired to use bad thermal paste on their RTX 4000 cards to punish nvidia. currently in DIY market you have to actually be interested in computers and know your stuff because the masses are very wrong right now. and steve from gamersnexus is an insane shill
>>103264300AMD will eventually use it too, they just didnt want to beta test
i wont read all that, chiefwont buy intel housefires
>>103264309>Overclocking chipsThis is a segment made by intel to squeeze the market in the first place. Amd's desktop CPUs all overclock just fine except for x3d which are prone to dying from overvolting
Definitely smells like iserbenchmark in here
I hate RGB cablesIf only we could go back to single color fans like the good old days
For gaming: AMD's 9600X or pay abit more for a 7600X3D?
>>103264335with amd chips there is no overclocking headroom. like buildzoid also says it. all the sliders pushed to the max which is why there is huge undervolting potential (like 33%) and the "new meta" with ryzen became undervolting. intel was forced to copy amd and introduce all these auto overclocking features like TVB because people won't stop buying overclocking chips complicating the job of actual overclockers. and causing the degradation issue
>>103260716I got a conundrum, maybe someone can help me get out of my own head on it. My computers are old pieces of shit. I think my gaming PC right now is an 8th gen intel. I was wanting to buy a whole new machine from the ground up, but I wasn't buying it for gaming or anything like that, I was really just doing it because I wanted a simple machine for my living room I could do some remote work on instead of relying on this ancient macbook that's already overheating as I'm typing on it. Are my priorities fucked? Should I be pouring this money into my gaming PC and using that instead? idk man. I feel like I play less and less games every year but that may be related to the fact that my gaming PC is practically from the stone age.
>>103264370Have you binned CPUs? Because I did for a bit and many of their i9s barely overclock 100-200mhz if you actually stress test properly. The worst 10900K I've tried could only oc 100mhz to 5ghz which was pretty pathetic.
What do >we think, lads
>>103264398there is decent variance with 13900k/14900k. a good sample is desirable. not much headroom either anymore because intel is making use of everything that node can offer. pretty impressive that with Intel 7 they match what amd offers with its much smaller litography
>>103264414get cheaper and faster non-rgb ram
>>103264398>>103264456My 14900K's VID is 1.404Is that good?
>>103264474is that even possible
>>103263447It's been through a lot and because of that I know shit about new CPUsAMD always seemed like a nightmare 10-some years ago now they aint?
>>103264489Unless the BIOS is lying
>>103264335Which was solved with the 9800X3D
>>103264544yes! very good
i currently have HD 6950 that is starting to feel oldwhat is a reasonably <$400 CAD upgrade for me? I am a boomer and bought this thing for $250, which at the time was a very sold mid-grade gpu. Now mid grade is $800. Shits fucked up
>>1032645983060ti from ebay
>>103264366>7600X3Donly worth it if you get it in the bundle which brings its effective price down to about 160. it is NOT worth 300
>>103264676Probably a better buy than 3070 at this point since 3060ti had more VRAM right?
>>103264695its the sameits the 3060 12gb non-ti you're thinking of, but its an overall slower card
>>103264598RX6800 from eBay
>>103263132>it fucks with your colors to keep you from noticingHow bad does it become, will it still look better than VN/ IPS/ TN?
>>103263479Ah yep that worked thank you anon
should I get the VG259QM @ 179$, AW2523HF @ 254$, or the XG2431 @ 259$ brothers? I've seen the ViewSonic get really high reviews and people calling it the best monitor for what I'm looking for, but the Asus is almost 80$ cheaper for similar specs and the Alienware has better specs on paper at the same price but with monitors there's always some weird shit going in that the specs don't tell you
>>103264762I really liked the XG2431 until it started crapping out beginning on a bunch of lower refresh rates, which is apparently not an unusual experience. Not like I can say the others are more or less reliable though.
>>103264345Like curry
>>103262440holy shit I want to say thank you for this advice, I went out and bought a new case today and my entire rig is 10C cooler idle and like 20C cooler while playing games.
Can someone explain the idea of CAS latency to me a bit? I'm upgrading from a 2700X on an X470 board, and I'm looking at 2 different 64gb (2x32) RAM kits for a 9800X3D build. When I built my original rig, I kinda just went with whatever G.Skill set was in the recommendation at the time, but I'd like to make my purchase with a bit more understanding this time.They're both 6000MHz CL30 kits, but one has 30-36-36-96 and the other is 30-40-40-96. I presume lower is better, but will this be an actual impact in performance, or does only the first number really matter?
>>103264968nice
Retard newfag here. Can someone please explain why I might want one chipset over another? I'm looking for an AM5 motherboard and I don't know if I should go for a B650, B650E or an X870 board. Is it just that the latter two have faster PCIe slots that I might want in the future? I'm going to be using a 9800X3D most likely paired with one of the new GPUs in January, with the 4070 Ti Super or 7900 XT as backup plans.
>>103265080the fast pcie slots is for having several equally fast nvme slots, say you handle 4k video footage and need to transfer files from 1 nmve to another so you buy a x870 for itfor gaming its not really relevant
>>103265090>for gaming its not really relevantSweet, I'll just pick a decently priced board with the slots I need then
>>103265080basically its a case of how much I/O do you want.no matter what you buy you're getting at least a 16x pcie 4.0 slot and a 4x pcie 4.0 m.2 slot.then the motherboards increase in specs including USB 4.0 and Pcie 5.0 everywhere if you want it.the reality is most people are fine with a B650 seeing as the 4090 is barely bottlenecked by a 16x Pcie 3.0 slot so its not like a 16x Pcie 4.0 slot will be a bottleneck any time soon and really with nvme slots unless you're transferring between nvme drives you're not going to notice a difference between pcie 4.0 or pcie 5.0 and they're forwards and backwards anyway so the point is moot as you can just run a pcie 5.0 nvme drive in a pcie 4.0 m.2 slot.
>>103264288>>103264284>>103264247also a kvm switch, which I have no idea why would anyone with a PC need one
>>103264988CAS latency is basically how many clock cycles it take your ram to do anythingOther timings determine how long it has to wait between various different types of operationsThe difference between those two kits is basically negligible, certain subtimings that are never listed are likely to have a greater impact, and by greater impact we're talking like 5% on the high end doing lots of tweaking and testing
does gpu brand matter or should I just get the cheapest one?
>>103265120I'll go for a B650 steel legend then since it's quite a bit cheaper than the X870 version.
>>103265152So really just look for CL 30, the rest of the numbers aren't as impactful? I'm not the kind to do a ton of tweaking and testing, and with them being within 5 USD of each other, I'll go with the one that matches my case and mobo best. Cheers.
>>103265166do a bit of research about the card you chose, if something actually bad happened it's likely in the news or people complain about it
MAG 271QPX QD-OLED E2 $520, it's damn $520!do I do it? do I?! DEEEEEP BLACKS!
>overclock 13600k to 5.3ghz allcore >disable ecores>disable intel stock settings crap>p core multi to 53>v1.35v>45-55c under waterwhat else am i missing do i need to remove the power cap? runs stable as a table now should see me through to christmass unless my new build spills into new year
Do I get a (AMD) GPU now or wait for new gen? I'm afraid the value will be bad and prices will go up even for the older models.
>>103265345right now the 7900XT for $619 = 8800XT for $599 with better RT, less power.
>>103265345already have a saclped 98x3d i got for 500 just wait it out my dood
While I was waiting for dells student coupon the aw32 sold out in evropIt's over
2080ti for $250or4060ti for $350?
>>1032655622080Ti
>>103265594ogey ty
Alright lads the blacked friday sale starts here in less than an hour and I think this is the final revision of my list before ordering.https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bKPWXRAnything I absolutely need to change before then or does it look good? The GPU is what I'll buy if the new ones in January aren't worth it or sell out immediately. Until then I'll just keep using my current one. Primarily for vidya. Maybe some productive tasks on the side every now and then but nothing major.
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>>103260938your mobo doesn't have a QVL?