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>>103268069
Don't forget to support your local hifi store and get good deals on demo units!

Any good headphones yet?

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so, fvkcing, validm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

>>103268736
Physically impossible

>>103268837
LMAO
I thought he was just a clever troll but with his recent videos Im beginning to think he's serious

>>103269453
he has that redditor semi ironic smug personality where he says 75% what he thinks but in a very arrogant and hyperbolic way
hes almost smart enough to understand idpol being a scam but he's fencesitting on it which is typical for this type of person

>>103268069
>Basic bitch recommendations (especially wireless): https://www.rtings.com/headphones
Checked this link and I noticed no recommended headphone had noise cancelling and a wireless dongle.
Are they mutually exclusive?

>>103270214
dongle is usually found in gamer headsets and theres only a handful of those with anc

>>103270500
>and theres only a handful of those with anc
Yeah, I've been noticing that while looking for a wireless one.
In the best case scenario of noise canceling working perfectly, they would be a nice to have for me as sometimes my current headphones don't isolate all outside sound, but if I can't find them in the wireless headphones I'm looking at that's a non starter.
I'll probably end up getting the Audeze Maxwell Wireless with no noise cancelling.

>>103270711
guy on reddit said he uses wh1000xm5 with a 3.5mm cable connected to the pc while having anc on, so thats an option

>>103270736
Thanks, but I'm looking for non bluetooth wireless, and having to connect the headphones defeats the purpose.

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Is anyone familiar with the Q-Pad brand?
I have some QH-92's, but the cable has become faulty. It's started doing that thing where the audio only works correctly when you position the cable a certain way. The cable is not removable. 2 things.

1. Is this fixable?
2. Do they have any customer support available, I can't find it anywhere

plz halp, I'm pretty sure I was recommended them here

>>103271118
the fixing involves stuff like buying a 3.5mm plug, some sort of plastic thing to hold the plug into headphone with glue and soldering couple wires, perhaps drilling a hole for the plug
you need like soldering kit, wire stripping tool, drill and whatever parts that go into it

>>103271118
This guy is pretty good https://youtu.be/5tcu-NUgMDQ

To start you want to determine if you can take the cups apart without rotary cutters. If you can't, it's not worth trying to fix.

>>103271118
I had its semi-open sibling, the QH-85. Cable shat out on me too.
I bought a 4-pole 3.5mm jack and soldered it in, the hole in the cup is the perfect size for it already. The microphone didn't work very well anymore afterwards (it was insanely quiet and picked up a lot of hum) but that could've easily been down to the janky cable I made for them.
Gave them to a friend to borrow for an indefinite amount of time and they still work after 10+ years.

any chink earpad makers of reputable standing? need some beyers replaced

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>>103268069
ultrasone?

>>103268172
How much? Were the pads greasy and gross?
>>103271863
Just pick one that has good reviews and you'll be fine. Keep in mind that they will change the sound slightly, just like any other earpad replacement

>>103271973
They were $200 and in, as far as I could tell, perfect condition. Came with an upgraded tripowin cable too

>>103272088
Nice, good find

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>>103268069
Boys I got these sweet Rode Nth-100 and I am very pleased, how do you manage the long cables

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>>103273020

Any good black friday deals yet?

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>Canada
>$120 CAD
>some Logitech Wireless Headset
>would prefer something wireless but with wired is fine too. I do not want a headset
>mostly to connect to computer, couldn't care less about phone

Any reccs?

do you guys still do the thing where you autistically buy studio monitor level phones and then stick a separate boom mic on em?

I remember anons having an infograph with like those audio technicas doing it that way LEL

>>103271955
Mental illness.

>>103274143
Probably something from Soundcore, like the Q45. If you stretch up a bit more in price you can get some Sony WH-whatevers but honestly these wireless headphones all sound the same.

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Are these worth 360 leafs?

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Anyone here tried Mondo by Defunc headphones? They have these over-ears that have dual drivers as well as on-ears with a kind of retro look

>>103274864
560s are probably at a better price point/better sale price unless you're reallly dead set on getting the 600. 599se went down to $109 this time last year, surprised they haven't yet. all depends on your budget i guess.

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need advice for a secret santa
>around $50
>closed back
>music
>wired

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>>103274453
Does it come with a bluetooth dongle or will I be forced to use AUX?

>>103275025
Tasktar

>>103275061
It's a bluetooth headphone. Does your PC not have bluetooth?

Looking for closed back over heard headphones around 200€ or less.
Mainly just listen to a wide variety of music types and a bit of gaming.
I'd like to value build quality a bit more because I'm not that much of an audiophile. I guess something neutral would be best. Having a detachable cable is a must as well
I'd like for them to be portable but I guess I can live without super portability because I realize I only ever really use my m50x at home.
Reason I want to get something new is that the earpads have gone to complete shit, the headband is all flaking apart, theres a bit of a cable protruding from the hole where the headband clicks into. Rather just get something new.
Some suggestions I see a lot are
- Fiio FT1
- DT 770 Pro X
- K371
Also as a promising mention
- Austrian Audio Hi-X20
Any of these that should be favoured more or is there something else I should look at?

>>103276195
you wont regret buying fiio
they're not super portable as they dont fold flat and you need to use the travel case they come with
The cable is 1.5m so you might want a replacement. I got an OPENHEART cable from aliexpress for it. The pads should be fine as is and it doesnt require eq.

>>103268069
The ksc75s are 20 bucks and hit in the 300 dollar price range. It's hilarious and I couldn't believe it when I first heard them but it's true.

>>103276308
Seeing a lot of mentions for the ft1, they only have the beech one in stock and looks kinda meh. Is it actually that worth that I should wait for it?

>>103276549
sure

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>>103274864
I have 660S2 and these 600 are similar but a bit different tuning, I also have oldies 598 but take it with some grain of salt from me but 600 series have more mid range details focused with better instrument positioning than 598 while sound stage sound pretty much the same. (once again I'm comparing 660S2 to 598, the 600 may sound a bit different in your case scenario) but never the less you can't go wrong with 600 if you like laid back, detailed non fatiguing headphones.
Also 600 series are 300 ohm headphones so a good juice is required for them.

>>103276549
>Seeing a lot of mentions for the ft1
yes, by the chink shill that wont piss off here. Just buy anything not made by retarded chinese people. Go for the dt 770 prox, they are made by the white man.

>>103276345
>ksc75s
>ear clips
Yikes!

>>103277808
What's wrong with ear clips?
So much better than having to deal with earphones falling out or hurting after a while

Everything is made in China, dont listen to >>103277671

>>103274198
nigger

>>103275025
Takstar Pro 82

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>>103278234

>>103274864
no
hd6xx is almost identical for 200 burgers

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>>103268069
best headphones for EDM production and general listening under $200 USD? i was looking at the beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro

>>103278729
was also checking out the Sennheiser HD 560S which seem good as well? unsure if there's a better model i might be missing out on

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simply the best

>>103278234
>Everything is made in China
That's just fucking ignorant.

>>103278386
YWNBW.

>>103278729
HE400se or wait for Fiio FT1 Pro. DT 990 Pro can't handle much bass.

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Is there any reason NOT to get this?

>>103278729
>production
HE400SE
>general listening
HD560S

>>103279653
>>103258434

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New JDS Element IV with PEQ ($500)

https://blog.jdslabs.com/2024/11/introducing-element-iv-and-core/

>>103279760
Well at least its like a cheap part to replace, better than having to buy a whole new set

been using akg k702s for years
I really like them, but it seems like every few months I gotta re-solder one of the wires, and it gets annoying
any recommendations for headphones that have a similar feel to to k702s but are a bit more durable?

>>103279653
Non-meme edition costs 40 euro less.

>>103268069
I like my HD 560s but I see a lot of you criticize "neutral sound" or whatever so I'm curious what the alternative is.

>>103280604
>a lot of you criticize "neutral sound"
No? But then again, a lot of audiophools have weird and varying personal definitions of "neutral". I remember some old rec pic from here that espoused DT880 treble cannons as the peak of neutrality while it claimed the HD600 was "heavily colored" and I fear it wasn't bait.
>I'm curious what the alternative is
Just EQ your 560S.

>>103280604
Only speakers can be neutral. Headphones have to be tuned to listener preference.

>>103280850
Headphones can be matched to neutral speakers by ear if you have enough skill and patience.

>>103280862
But only for you.

Why are there a bunch of headphones more expensive than the HD 560s if the HD 560s are the best headphones?

>>103280862
don't reply to that dude he's just here to shit on headphones and shill speakers.

>>103280890
probably because the hd500 line is supposed to be affordable, entry level, easy to drive on anything, and is not flagship/premium tier. if you have a big budget obviously you can get more expensive headphones if you wish.

>>103280915
Okay but /hpg/ always says you can't get any better

>>103280931
More expensive =/= better

>>103280931
not really. nobody is stopping you from spending a bunch of money on more expensive headphones. it's just diminishing returns is a thing and everyone has different opinions and taste on what they think sounds good to their ears.

>>103280077
>20$ every two years is better than having the sliders not break in the first place
i mean... i'm all for repairability but beyerdynamic seems to have turned that shit into a subscription model

had my hd650s for 12 years, they're pretty ghetto by now
are hd660s2 worth the $500?

>>103280587
Are you talking about the non limited edition one?
I'm just in favour of the LE one because it has a detachable cable and it has 45mm drivers which seem to even out the treble thing that people seem to shit on beyer for
>>103281089
I guess, I dont know much about it, I've gotten lucky with most of my stuff because the so called common issues with hardware havent seemed to happen with me. I'll just bite the bullet and hope for the best that I get a good one

how loud is the sound leakage of open-back headphones for others in the same room? Do they really sound that much better?

>>103281349
if other people hearing shit is a concern to you then open backs probably aren't viable.

>>103281137
No. HD6xx with EQ performs the same.
>>103281349
Depends on how open, since there are degrees of openness. But generally they're recommended for use without others in the same room. And yes, they do sound that much better. Closed backs sound congested once you get used to open.

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>>103281189
>it has 45mm drivers which seem to even out the treble thing that people seem to shit on beyer for
No they don't, you might think that because of the DT 700 & 900 Pro X, but in their case it's the strong damping that kills some of the treble.

>>103281349
HE400se is loud enough that people will easily hear what you're listening to. I think planars have higher leakage because the drivers are bigger meaning more distance from your eardrum on average.

>>103281392
>with EQ
so does every headphone

>>103281590
You can't EQ out distortion or deep nulls.

>>103280890
They're not the best headphones, they're just one of 2 or 3 open back DD worth buying.

>>103281436
Well fair enough, I'm just going off of what I see from other people saying online. I dont know how bad treble is and I'm not much of an audiophile, all I have is a m50x and thats all I've ever known
Not gonna lie I never know what I'm looking at when I see these graphs.
I might just chance it either way and see how it goes

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Any good deals for black friday/cyber monday?
Buying from the US
100-300$ range
Listening to music + gaming
Closed back, preferably wired but dont mind wireless
And will most likely use it with my qudelix 5k

>>103282097
>closed-back
It's not on sale, but Fiio FT1

>>103279653
If they're anything like my DT 770s, then no. For the price they're some of the best cans you can get.

https://blog.jdslabs.com/2024/11/introducing-element-iv-and-core/

Let me guess, you need more?

>>103284762
No, I need less, actually. I don't need le ebin headphone dAc AmP

>>103284762
>no balanced pre out
meh

>>103284135
you are literally fostex tranny degranged there's literally 0 measurements of that piece of shit online

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>>103285216
???
>degranged
Calm down and take a walk outside anon, you need a break from this place.

>>103285270
if i spent a minute itt for every time you shill your worthless piece of shit as evident per attached image ironically enough, i'd be itt 20h/day
GRAS gras measurements and THD you fucking monkey

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measurement of Fiio FT1 Pro on Gras rig

https://sai.squig.link/?share=Harman_OE_2018_Target,FT1_Pro

full written review including THD measurement (spoiler: no worries)

https://unheardlab.com/2024/11/23/measurement-and-review-of-fiio-ft1-pro/

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>>103285331
>THD measurement (spoiler: no worries)
for those that don't want to click the link

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>>103285280
>moving the goalposts
Not my fault you're too mentally deficient to read other measurements, but sure I'll spoonfeed you.

Calm down and touch some GRAS anon

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>>103285371
THD measurement by solderdude, not on Gras but that shouldn't matter too much for THD
could be better, but also nothing of real concern

https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/fiio/ft1/

>>103277808
I was worried about it, but they ended up being comfier than any headphones I have ever worn. I bent them a little for a perfect fit.

>>103279653
>>103279760
>>103284273
Beyer WAS good until they flipped on their customers and completely destroyed the longevity appeal of their products. I will never buy a Beyer product again

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>>103285399
>shoebox rig
also
WHAT A FUCKING DISASTER LMAO

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>>103285371
>touch some GRAS
Ok I'll consoom your headphones now

>$150 for chinkshit with no replacement OEM pads which WILL flake in like 2 years and probably shit build quality, planar tier weight, tons of reflections when 560s is <$150 and HD6xx is $200

>>103285431
Tell me you don't know how to read waterfall graphs without telling me you don't know how to read waterfall graphs

>>103285454
ft1 pads are generic enough that any 110mm round pad will fit, also they're hybrid and the part that touches your head is fabric so the sides and inner circle that is pleather will experience less rubbing and grease

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>>103285454
>open back and open back

>>103285453
yes nobodys made that joke before it's a first
>>103285471
yes if you own a fucking gras rig you will be able to measure your pads to EQ and if you are subhuman enough to not eq them aftermarket pads will make those sound like dogshit
>>103285464
>snarky preddit meme
>absolutely 0 input and no argument
>>103285482
how is that a problem

>>103285482
it used to be that everyone reflexively recced open backs as the best bang for buck/sound quality but now that fiio ft1 exist theres not many reasons to not buy it unless you go audeze maxwell route

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>>103285485
>how is that a problem
You're comparing apples to oranges, retard.
>>103285509
Nah I'd still prefer open backs. But my neighbor is mowing his lawn I need something to isolate the sound. Maxwells are fine but I'm just still standoffish to wireless.

>>103285509
i have like 10 screenshots of people buying maxwells in hpg and having qc issues or complaining about the tuning or latency
>>103285535
>You're comparing apples to oranges, retard.
just buy open backs unless you live in a literal favela it does not fucking matter
also those fabric pads isolate fuck all
there's better closed backs

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>>103285485
Bluds fighting for his life out here

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>blud dun be cooked da yapping gon crazy ong lil bro

>>103285553
Unless you live in the middle of nowhere with no neighbors or family it DOES matter. Some of us actually have people in our lives, anon. People that can get loud and annoying - hence the closed backs.
>there's better closed backs
Yet you've still managed to list none. We asked you the same thing last thread too...

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>Unless you live in the middle of nowhere with no neighbors or family it DOES matter. Some of us actually have people in our lives, anon. People that can get loud and annoying - hence the closed backs.

>>103285650
I'm not a europoor. We have these things called "lawns" here in America, and they need mowing - this process generates a lot of noise. Something you commieblock dwellers can't comprehend lol

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>>103285638
>$500
Remember when we talked about apples and oranges, tardanon?

>>103285347
>>103285399
>measured at 90db
wasting everyone's time with this fake shit

>>103285650
My family aren't screaming retards

>>103285672
and I have an electric lawn mower because I'm under 70.

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>>103285672
i live in the country, not fucking bug cardboard shoebox suburb, when my neighbors mow the lawn i cant even tell
>>103285735
trvthnuke
>>103285698
$50 1/3 of the price

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>>103285578
You're not funny or cute, you silly boy!

>>103285735
>>103285769
>90db too low
Evening Amir. How's the tinnitus ringing today?

>>103285778
you are a grown fucking man calling other men with hairy assholes cute and silly multiple times every day and then you choose to identify with a high school drawing of a woman

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@103285787
cant grasp the most fundamental audio concepts award

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>>103285789
>he's really upset right now
Oh my goodness!

>>103285769
>i live in the country
Yeah so like I said, you live in the middle of nowhere. It was a simple conditional statement anon

>>103285848
i live both in the country and in the city center it literally makes no fucking difference you immaculate sperg kill yourself

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>>103285857
>country and the city center make no difference in noise
>he's unironically deaf
Suddenly your posts start to make a lot more sense

>>103285787
I find about 100db is a comfortable range for most movies, and the OSHA standard for single peak is 140. If you measure from lower than 105 you're just writing ad copy.

ironic ad hominem is all you can reply with because i'm right

>>103285942
>solderdude is a shill
Alright dude, believe what you will, idrc

>>103285946
Pussyboi non-reply posts with your eyes averted are all you can do because you're too scared to see my (You) completely BTFOing whatever you just said

Is anything really cheap but better than expensive stuff. Thanks and I'll take may answer off the air.

>>103286233
Depends on what you mean by really cheap. HD 58x matches everything else from Sennheiser if you're willing to EQ. He400se is planar and has very good distortion for the price. But if you need even cheaper, Superlux shitters are pretty much it (and they're meh).
Koss has some decent stuff but they're on-ear, not over-ear, and have nobass.

>>103268069
Someone please help me understand what the fuck
>I plug my headset in and use a splitter for the mic in and audio out
>it works fine for over a year
>all of the sudden the AUX cables start acting weird, like I would have to twist them to get them to work right and kind of apply a little pressure, seemed like a loose connection or something
>this would mostly effect the mic in but not the audio out so much, it just got quitter but still came through
>get new AUX cable, it's fine again for a little bit
>but then it happens again and I assume it's just my jack messing up my AUX cables
>now even brand new AUX cables are not working
>brand new splitter doesn't fix it either
>even a different headset of the same brand doesn't work, mind you the audio out is fine, it's just the mic in not working
>unplug the modular mic from my headset and plug it directly into my mic in port
>it fucking works
>decide to spend $15 on some chinky PCIe sound card
>get it up and working with the ancient drivers and little documentation
>plug it in, see if fixes it
>literally no
>I have this headset mic plugged into my front facing mic in port like a fucking ghetto shitbird

This has to be electrical but I don't understand what the fuck would cause it to be where a splitter makes the mic not work anymore when it worked just fine for over a year. Did some ground failure or something fry something in my chipset? Anyone with similar experiences care to shed some light please because this is driving me insane.

>>103286315
so since you plugged the headset connected to pc case front facing audio port via a splitter doesnt work, but if just put the mic in it straight it works while the audio works fine connected normally?

>>103286343
Yes. The microphone part of the headset can be unplugged from the headset. So I have my audio out (green) plugged into the headset to hear, and then I plugged the actual headset microphone straight into the mic in port (pink) and it works. But for some reason splitters will break the microphone's ability to output, regardless of which headset or splitter combination I use. I really don't understand it. And it wasn't like this beforehand.

Even with the PCIe soundcard, the behavior persists. I think I may have truly fried something at the chipset level but I don't know if that's even possible or not.

>>103286420
wouldnt that indicate the wiring in the headphone is broken

>>103286433
I've tried it with two different headsets.

>>103286420
are you sure you're using the right kind of splitter

>>103285977
I'm just going by the information available. From what you've shown us the ft1 is little if any improvement over the ath-m50x, and I can get parts for the m50x.

>>103285482
closed backs are SHIT

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>>103286742
Lol now you're just trolling. I'd give it pass if you said something like the k371, but the m50x is literally 2014 smartphone techtuber tier.

why the fuck did they stop making dt770s with a coiled cable???

>>103285787
You need at least 110dB for subbass in real music, 140 if you're really rocking out. No, it's safe for your ears because they lower it by 50dB. Car sub competitions are pushing 160dB, the front glass breaks sooner than human ears.

And if you really believe 90dB is enough put hd600 into a 0.3V amp and see how it goes :^)

>>103287939
>Car sub competitions
Didn't realize we had so many melanated individuals in this thread. Explains a lot actually

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>>103288004
Black peepo dont season dey subs.

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>>103287696
>he actually likes coiled cables
You're dumb.

>>103288026
Ok cool he won some faggy competition, but whenever I feel niggabass vibrating my car at a stop light and I look over, it's almost always a black.

Bros I just thought of the most clever idea

I have a shitty pair of headphones and I'm looking to upgrade. What If I bought headphones with the widest soundstage, and watched porn, would that elevate my fapping experience?

>>103287696
they didn't, get the 250 Ω version

>>103288265
buy smyth realiser

Just got the FT1, its quite nice and comfy. But I find it pretty heavy, is there anything similar to it but lighter?

>>103289256
I think people report the Fostex T50RP as being somewhat light. I'm getting mine on Monday so I'll be able to tell you then.

>>103289256
Sony MDR-M1

>>103289372
>too retarded to look up a spec sheet
T50RP weighs 330 g, that's basically the same as the FT1 (340 g)

>>103289256
its not particularly heavy, try buying the extra comfort strap
https://capraaudio.com/product/sony-mdr7506-comfort-strap/

I can't decide what headphones to get, everything has its ups and downs of course but holy fuck theres no winning

>>103289691
yeah, the no compromises is using speakers in an apartment where you cant hear other people
then if you had no environment noise its pretty easy to pick some comfy open back

>>103289710
Pretty much that would solve everything. But I'm not in either of those cases unfortunately, forced to go for closed backs.
Its like either buy cheap shit but comfort is pretty bleh and not suitable to wear for long period or made out of the cheapest plastic and have to buy another in a year.
Or get something a bit more expensive but theres some shitty nuance to it that makes you need to go up a tier

>>103289691
Doesn't distort + doesn't make my ears sweat = 0 results. Meme technology.

currently looking for good and comfy open-backs. Don't think the HE400s and DT990 Pro are for me. I mostly listen to electronic music without vocals so good mids is the most important to me. I'm deciding between Sennheiser's HD600/6xx/650. Thoughts? Is the 6xx really just 650 for half the price?

>>103290240
>I mostly listen to electronic music without vocals so good mids is the most important to me.
I don't follow
>Is the 6xx really just 650 for half the price?
Yes

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The Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee.

>>103289372
T50RP cups are light because they're thin plastic, but the drivers are packed full of magnets. I guess putting the weight closer to your head makes them feel a bit lighter.
But they're not great unless modded, at which point you start adding extra weight to the cups, which defeats the original point.

>>103289710
>no compromises
>speakers
The only true no-compromises sound system is full sphere wave field synthesis. But there's pretty much no music made for this so you'd have to rely on AI upmixing.

>>103290142
Get IEMs, they won't distort and are cool.

>>103290240
560S has more bass headroom and doesn't need an amp for music. It's a newer, better driver. Open back Sennheisers are kind of all the same. Just slight variations in furniture and driver matching.

>>103290546
>I don't follow
why? Am I wrong about this?

>>103291202
I have an interface anyway but looking more into the 560S I think you convinced me. Can't really go wrong with 120€

>>103290142
Open back planar.

>>103277808
Just replace the clips with a cheap POS headband from some parts express headphones

>>103276345
>no sub bass
>hits in the 300 dollar price range
shut the fuck up

my he400se are starting to cut out but when i jiggle the cable it works again. is it the cable or the cans?

>usecase
electronic stuff, otoge music most of the time
>previous equipment
Beyer DT 700 Pro X, I got this one from the recommendation chart a couple years ago. Supposedly it's one of the best closed back
>devices you want the headphones to connect to (phone, pc, amp...)
4.4mm
I want something better than DT 700 Pro X, any price is fine

>>103268069
Need a rec on dac/amp
budget
>1k max
use
>headphone out + speakers [rca/xlr]
previous equip
>rme adi 2 dac fs
not bad, but my unit has this constant fucking whine whenever the display is on despite being the AKM version and brand new from warranty. love the display and features tho
>connecting to pc only
>pure transparent flat response
>xlr out for headphones (balanced pref or unbalanced fine too)
>pref 10band PEQ
>headphones 90 dB/1mW 14 ohm

prefer
>nice display
>tactile volume knob
>bonus if fft spectrum display like rme adi 2

>>103290745
Mogs every Sennheiser headphone except the HE-1 btw. (with EQ)
>>103293699
The only way to tell is to test a different cable. Don't bother with snake oil expensive ones, you can get the cheapest compatible one. Or just use it as an excuse to consoom new cans, up to you.
>>103293739
>otoge
Dangerously based. I would recommend the FT1 because it comes with a 4.4mm cable, but the resident schizo is gonna get mad at me.

>>103293981
Get another warranty repair, don't accept getting cucked out of thousands of dollars because you're too pussy to contact support. Go full Karen if need be.
Anyways I guess you can use a minidsp flex digital along with a topping dx5. PEQ is a rare feature.

>>103274888
Good for the price per performance (at the time I got mine), good battery and comfortable to wear, but it lacks ANC and while the sound is good for most music it isn't studio grade for critical listening.
Also found that the app for the headphones is crap and mostly useless.

I use mine mainly for travel and sometimes when I am at work. Chose them over the Austrian Audio Hi-X25BT and have no regrets so far.
That said the Sony WH-1000XM4 on it's current promotional offer might be better if they are within your budget (Mondo headphones still cheaper though).

>>103294151
It's moreso the fact i want xlr out for headphones now than the unit itself (which i'm still going karen on)

>>103291117
Looking at reviews it seemed like most people thought the MK4's where pretty good even in their stock config (other than perhaps an earpad swap if you don't like the originals). As long as their at least as good as the set they're replacing (A Bose Soundtrue from 2014) I'll be pretty happy.

>>103294282
Mk4 literally just came out, mk3 is the one that Zeos shilled like crazy, mk2 is where the "cost-effective mod platform" reputation came from.

>>103294398
It baffles me that there are still people to this day watching Zeos and taking him seriously. Not you Im just saying

If I plan on doing a lot of travelling, should I get some wireless headphones or would going around with something like a DT 770 pro be too cumbersome?

>>103293466
Anon 90% of headpos people shill don't produce noise under 100hz lmao

>>103294724
Depends. If no headphones then yes for wireless but if you have DT 770 Pro already then you have other options for using them (direct if phone has jack, dongle if not and a wireless adapter/ portal wireless dac if you don't like too much cables).

>>103294914
I have nearly broken headphones so just looking to jump ship.
The "lot of travelling" may only be a weekend here and there in reality. But I tend to be around other people quite a bit so closed back is preferred.
I'm kinda just siding with studio headphones because looks like theyre built a bit more durable than the likes of sony and stuff. Don't want to buy new ones after a year or two

>>103294792
Your 3rdie ear dildos aren't audible below 100hz either, tranny. Sub bass is felt, you need speakers for that.

>>103295063
Post waistline circumference with timestamp anon

>>103295406
Post ID from a 1st world country with timestamp anon

>>103295043
>durable
>doesn't want sony or standard build headphones
Then it is probably the studio headphones (assume the DT 770 Pro in your case) and a wireless portable DAC would likely be your preferred choice.

FiiO BTR15 appears to be the easy cheap choice for wireless portable DAC.

For the DT 770 Pro you have different Ohms options of 32 (for mobile use), 80 (standard studio use) and 250 (Control And Monitoring).
All options are closed back.

>>103294122
>I need something better than dt 700 pro x
>bro bro get the fiio ft1
stop with the fucking shilling already, coming from the 700 pro x it's a sidegrade at best, and a downgrade at worst

>>103294792
no? what kind of shitty ass headphones are you looking at?
99.9% of headphones don't have this problem

>>103295455
>For the DT 770 Pro you have different Ohms options of 32 (for mobile use), 80 (standard studio use) and 250 (Control And Monitoring).
you forgot the newer 48 ohm 770 pro x, which is easier to drive than the regular 32 ohm version, has a detachable cable, better headband, and a solderless driver so you can easily fix it in case beyer's shitty qc kicks in

>>103295673
Right on cue lmao

>>103295841
yeah of course you are going to get called a shill, because that's the only explaination as to why you would raccomend it as an upgrade to someone that has an almost objectively superior headphone in every way already

>>103295709
>48 ohm 770 pro x
Not aware of that and good call.

>>103294724
I wouldn't want to wear my 770s in public, and they don't isolate as well compared to other closed options. The long cable would be annoying.
Either get some tws IEMs (whatever scarbir recommends for your price bracket), something from Soundcore.
Get something cheap for on the go and keep the good stuff at home.
Could also get some wired IEMs if you don't want to dels with wireless. I just got the 7hz Zero2 and they sound pretty amazing for the price, better than a lot of over ear headphones.

>>103295688
Nta, but most Sennheisers don't seem to have much subbass, and distort when you try to add it in. That's my experience with the HD600 at least .

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>>103295890
>almost objectively superior headphone
Alright schizo. FT1 still sold out on multiple platforms no matter how much you seethe lol

>>103295947
If you're running into distortion issues on Sennheisers when EQing there's something wrong with your setup. I've never experienced that. Are you applying enough negative pre-gain?

>>103295455
>For the DT 770 Pro you have different Ohms options of 32 (for mobile use), 80 (standard studio use) and 250 (Control And Monitoring).
Noteworthy: The fixed and not replaceable (well, without soldering) cable is also different for each version, it's respectively 1.6 m straight (32 Ω), 3.0 m straight (80 Ω), 3.0 m coiled (250 Ω).

>>103295930
>they don't isolate as well compared to other closed options
swap the velour pads for the pleather ones that come with the 32 ohm version and then the sound isolation becomes better than average
>the long cable would be annoying
shorten it
or get the 32 ohm version that has the shorter cable
or get a modded one with a detachable cable, or the new pro x
basically what i'm saying is, if those are the only two problems you have with wearing 770s in public, they only apply to the 80/250 ohm version with the stock velour pads.

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Hello, audiophile tourist here. I haven’t taken my Adderall for three days, and I just impulsively bought the Focal Clear MG and K9 AKM after talking to ChatGPT. I’ll be picking them up tomorrow, and they’re my first headphones that cost more than $250. Did I do okay with this random purchase?

>>103295954
>guy has the dt 700 pro x
>posts graph for the 770 pro x
...ok so not only you are a chink shill, but you are also completely fucking retarded

>>103295974
I'm applying -5db of preamp gain and adding 6db at 30hz and 2db at 60hz, not crazy adjustments exactly. Leaving everything else alone.
I don't think I'm getting distortion necessarily, but it sounds like the drivers are being pushed to do stuff they don't want to do, subbass. The overall sound loses some clarity. My DT770s which are supposed to be bass cannons also don't produce tons of clean subbass.
Whereas my IEMs can produce great subbass with no distortion. Strangely enough my Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT headphones also handle subbass remarkably well.
The point is, it seems like a lot of headphones don't handle subbass well.

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>>103296109
Don't worry, that one's shit too. You may proceed to cry about it.

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>>103296156
>posts graph for the dt 990
I give up
but seriously, what the fuck is your point?
the frequency response of the ft1 is very close to the 700 pro x, so if the 700 pro x is shit, why isn't the ft1 also shit?
>inb4 look it has 5% more in this specific frequency so it's bad!

>>103291623
I don't think accurate mids are that important for electronic music without vocals, on the other hand you probably want a good amount of bass which the Sennheisers just don't have without EQ.

>>103296188
It actually has more than 5% less in the lower mids, which is a far more audible range than whatever flaws the FT1 may have (which it has none, mind you). So yeah it's bad!

>>103296244
>flatter=better
So yeah, you're retarded

>>103296128
>I'm applying -5db of preamp gain and adding 6db at 30hz and 2db at 60hz
>Anon can't into grade school math

>>103296264
No, smoother = better. Because then you can EQ it to whatever you need it to be.
This is day one basics in this hobby, bud. Try lurking moar

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>>103296128
I would always go for matching the gain in the bass with your negative pre-amp, you can get away with not doing that with mids/treble, because they're the quietest parts of music, but bass will always be higher.

Sennheisers do indeed have higher THD in the bass, but you really shouldn't be running into hearing that unless you're listening to them at glaringly loud volumes. If you applied 9dB of bass to an HD600 for example, you would still have to listen to your HD600 at an uncomfortably loud volume to likely perceive the distortion in the bass.

I do know what you mean about IEM vs Headphone bass though, and I think that's just a consequence of open back headphones. It's always going to sound less punchy than an IEM but that's simply the nature of a more diffuse environment.

>>103296323
>smoother curve means it handles eq better
okay, let's see what other dumb shit you come up with next

>>103296361
>another strawman
"Handling" EQ comes down to THD. Smoother makes it easier on the user to EQ. You can painstakingly EQ the treble peaks of Beyers, but it would take hours of both measuring and listening, assuming you're even a trained listener in the first place. And no, you can't use someone elses measurements you found online lol. You don't know how much smoothing they've applied to their graph, not to mention rig differences, HRTF, etc. etc.
Any other copes?

>>103294792
Maybe 20 years ago.

>2024
>people still bring up cans with non-detachable cable
lmao ex dee

>>103294122
>I would recommend the FT1 because it comes with a 4.4mm cable
Comes with a 3.5mm too

Please share tuning for the FT1, AutoEQ doesnt have one

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>>103296881
it doesnt need eq

>>103296881
Tune it to whatever you enjoy dude. Following curves is stupid because they're all preference curves, there is no "correct" curve.

>>103296881
https://sai.squig.link/?share=Harman_OE_2018_Target,FT1
go to the Equalitzer tab, add as many bands as you'd like, press the AutoEQ button, voilà

>>103296102
You should have bought moda

>>103268172
>your local hifi store
LMAO
Where the fuck does one of those exist?

>>103296188
>>103296156
A flat response curve doesn't mean "sounds good" or "worth more money". It just tells you if it will annoy you, and if you can eq it to meet your own personal targets.

Ask this really basic question:
>what is the eq impact of the average room, during various types of music?
If you think that you can eq a variety of music, you're either deaf, or not attune. Think for a second, does music sound different in different eq'd rooms?

How to eq match

You need software to analyze songs and provide some kind of response curve to reach targets imo

not sure if any hifi has this

but it's true with headphones too.

But here's a problem

>it's true for ears too, the eq needs to be on a per song basis PER LISTENER

so you have
song * signal path * phones * ears -> config file
for headphones
and
song * signal path * speakers * room * ears -> config file
for speakers.

I have no idea if anyone is doing this, but it's necessary if you want true matching. Even then, there will be nuanced differences (because there will be resonances that aren't accounted for)

>>103297346
yes

No you can't afford it.

>>103288026
He looks like a young and healthy version of my cousin that just died of Cystic Fibrosis a couple years ago. And that is in no way a dig at that guy.

>>103297346
big cities generally.

>>103296102
Mmmmm... balanced.

>>103297382
Maybe. I would have been the local hifi seller in my area if anyone here was willing to spend money on audio quality.
Everyone here in the more rural north east is so fucking cheap.
I had a guy that runs his own restaurant come into my shop for a cable. A cable I had. I offered to sell it to him for $5 and he snickered he could just order it on amazon for $2.
To this day I don't fucking get it.

>>103297418
widespread demon possession. unironically

>>103294122
why does the 58X need EQ?

>>103297510
It doesn't, I don't know why people think you must eq. You can't really eq the way people think, it's mostly like avoiding annoying loudness.

>>103297510
>>103297551
It doesn't need it if you already like the sound. I just meant you can EQ it to match the other HD6-- lineup because it has relatively low distortion and is already similar sounding.
>>103296102
>after talking to ChatGPT
Bruh. The original clears are better imo. But the MGs aren't bad by any means.

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What's the actual red pill on Sony WH-1000XM4?
Are they that good?

>>103297757
no headphone is perfect, but im sure they do the job while commuting

>>103297757
imo waterproofing is a must in phones meant to be carried outdoors sometimes. For that reason I'd give them a pass. just get some iems

>>103297757
good noise cancelling headphones but the audio isnt that great, very overpriced

>>103297757
Good sound, great ANC, terrible build quality, just like the rest of the XM line after the XM2s.

Speaking of XMs, my XM5's left swivel snapped after 2 years. The replacement bands (since i'm afraid the right swivel will snap soon) are about 120-140 for OEM, 160-170 for Encompass repair + time, or 30-50 off Aliexpress for generic no-logo bands. Has anyone tried using the bands off of Aliexpress? I wouldn't mind doing the labor and not having the Sony logo on the swivels if it means I can save myself from having to spend about half as much as it would cost to buy a like-new quality XM5 off Ebay. Also, looking into the Moondrop PARAs since I want to switch back to wired for PC usage, and I know I would need a DAC for it. So would they generally be recommended if I can find a near-mint quality for about 180? And what would be a cheap DAC to go along with it? Preferably under 80.

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Asked on ChatGPT and reddit but they're both retarded and can't even read so I'm here now.
I don't listen to music, only voice, and need the best ANC possible for travel, traffic, trains, planes etc. Sound quality isn't important.
Because I often fold them while I'm travelling I don't want anything with a shitty hinge that breaks easily, so don't recommend any Sony shit like this one >>103297757

What is it with iem shills
No I dont fucking want to put that uncomfortable shit in my ear