Recommendations for a (small) gaming pc with the cpu and gpu performance being around 5600x3d and 3070/3080?
Better is allowed but not really necessary, budget is around 2000 euromoneys

>>106938560
5600x3d and 3070/3080

>>106938578
The pc itself numbnuts
This may be called the ''PC building" general but we all know it's just the shilling general so shill me one

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>>106938560
i dont understand what do you mean by small
do you want a mATX or ITX build? or are you just using it in another way?
anyhow yeah 2k will get you a machine with far above performance to a 5600x3d and a 3080
just clarify me what did you meant by small and if you have something else you would want
You could also just search previous threads for pcpartpicker links, right now the choice for parts is so slim that most builds are pretty similar

>>106938534
do not hesitate to kill yourself anon

>>106938560
SFF builds are subject to much more personal taste than regular PCs. I can make you a decent ITX rig with that perf. level for ~€1200 but it'd be pointless if you actually want it in a 10L sandwich case.

>>106938560
Ryzen 395 minipc

>>106938534
Does your doctor know you're not taking your meds again nicotroon?
>>106938560
This is 1800 duestchemarks without a case, which is subject to personal taste more than anythung
PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/yJ9L8Q

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (€363.87 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Aqua Elite V3 66.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€74.89 @ Proshop)
Motherboard: ASRock B850M Pro-A WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard (€139.90 @ Alza)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (€107.49 @ Caseking)
Storage: Western Digital WD_Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€147.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte WINDFORCE SFF GeForce RTX 5070 Ti 16 GB Video Card (€863.34 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€106.93 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1804.32

Swap out the 360mm rad to a 240 or an air cooler depending on your case

>>106938668
You're exceeding the performance budget laid down.

>>106938632 >>106938648
>do you want a mATX or ITX build?
Doesn't really matter but reading the other comments I suppose the case is the deciding factor. I'm not gonna do anything with it, it's just a framework for the components, I don't need RGB or anime stickers or any other vomit. Are there any pre-builts I can use as examples?
Normal ATX build would be fine but my train of thought is: ''I don't need top performance so might as well get something smaller''. Am I going about wrong?
>>106938668
This is a bit overkill but I wouldn't really complain
>ATX Power Supply
Would this fit into a smaller sized case as well?
If building something smaller than ATX is such a hassle I might just go ATX and forget the headache with trying to make everything fit

>>106938660
I checked this and its gpu performance isn't good enough for what I want
Also don't need the AI garbage

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>>106938749
>''I don't need top performance so might as well get something smaller''. Am I going about wrong?
Nah just misleading, we understood small as in a small form factor, not in the "i dont need it to run gta6 in vr at 400fps"
Thats why i asked for clarification.
Usually SFF computers are a bit more expensive, have fewer options and are a bit harder to build.
Picrel
Usually ATX is the cheapest option while still having access to every possible component, when you said "small" we took it as on of the two options to the left.
If you dont care for it then i would stick with a regular ATX.

>>106938798
by regular ATX i mean either mid or full tower

>>106938716
I misread his first post to mean that was his current build and he wanted to upgrade with €2000 budget
>>106938749
>Normal ATX build would be fine but my train of thought is: ''I don't need top performance so might as well get something smaller''.
I would just get a mid tower if the size doesn't bother you. Better airflow, easier to build in, and better parts compatibility.

>>106938798
>>106938863
Alright then, I'll just save the headache, thanks

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>>106938749
>>106938880
Okay after reading your post this is my stab at it, i kept it on amazon DE, but i dont even know where you are in europe

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/JfQnPJ

Its a non nosense build, the case is spartan but very well reviewed, 2TB hard drive, you might switch it for a 1TB if you think its enough. Might need to purchase a couple extra fans for the case.

That build is missing a gpu, for my money i would pick up a 5070TI (800-900) but out of the 3 sensible choices for your needs its the higher tier one, you can also consider a 5070 (500-600) a 5060TI (400-500) or an 9070xt from AMD (600-700).
The 5060TI should probably trade punches with your 3080 while also having access to newer tech (newer dsll, frame gen) the 5070 5070TI just improve in performance. The 9070xt is comparable to the 5070TI in computing power but from amd with the boons and flaws that come with being amd.

I think thats something you should decide based on your budget and needs but the rest of the build i gave you is simply solid.

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i still use ryzen 9 3900x with gtx 1070
i want to upgrade to 7800x3d tray with gtx 5060 ti 16gb
what do you think?
my budget is no more than 1500 usd ish

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>>106938950
Im the poster above you
i had the build open for that other anon
switched to usa, switched the 7800x3d to a tray version but it didnt have price on amazon so i left the regular one, keep it in mind if you can find a cheaper tray version, and added a 5060TI
Landed bang on 1600. It can be made a bit slimmer if you want.
Let me know what you think and anything that can be changed.

>>106938950
Overkill cpu for such a slow gpu

>>106938950
>>106938987
forgot the link

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TKzx8Q

>>106938950
gtx is dead bro
also rtx has ton of driver issues on windows 11 and linux avoid them

>>106939101
fake news by radeonclittyleaker

>>106939206
its not fake its all over youtube and reddit unless you're living in some delusional fantasy.

>>106939206
>>106939224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

>>106939224
my RTX 5090 has zero driver issues, i do not care about your 5 year old reddit screenshots you transgender animal

>>106939232
Yeah I'm sure we all believe some random nobody here like you instead of actual million dollar tech channels.

>>106939232
>my RTX 5090 has zero driver issues
Proof?
I literally sold mines because it was unstable in blender.

>>106939237
except when those tech channel benchmarks show Radeon losing to GeForce in game performance, then only the theoretical numbers in GPU-Z matters keeek

>>106939237
>Muh appeal to authority

>>106939244
lying samefag troon keeeeeeeek it’s so obvious it’s you nicotroon
you’re too poor for anything stronger than an rx580

ARC will surpass Radeon in market share eventually
Retard Su doesnt know how to price products

next nicotroon will be telling you to buy a radeon card for workstation use

Have i7 6700k with 16gb 3000 cl16 ram. Want to upgrade it for vidya only for my TV/simrig. The 6700k is below minimum requirements for some games.
Should I just get am4 with 5800xt for $220 and reuse the ram? Or 7800x3D with 32gb ram which would be like $650. It's going to have a 4070 Ti Super. Reusing my 9 year old SF600 PSU.

>>106939331
What about am5 7600/7500F? It's worth paying slightly more for am5 since you'll be able to drop in a 10800x3d zen6 in 4 years without upgrading the board and ram. Also 16gb of ram isn't enough these days so no point trying to stick to am4 just for that ram kit

>>106939331
If you stick with am4 understand thats as far as it go, you will not be upgrading that again but changing the whole pc next time, so at some point you will have to move to am5 and frankly buying dead platform tech always stings.
The advantages of switching the setup is a faster processor (probably not the most important part), much much faster ram (and twice of it) and having an easier time to upgrade the next time just switching cpus.
But i have no horse on this race, if the am4 update is enough to keep you going then thats up to you

>>106939350
I can get 7600x for 140 or 7800x3d for 300 from microcenter. Problem is the 200 motherboard for am5. I need the MSI am5 itx because of my case. The axp90x47 couldn't screw into the ASRock itx mobo because of the backplate lip and if I use the longer screws the case won't close. Sff problems

>>106938534
I'm trying to hold off one more hardware generation before upgrading, what's expected to come out in the next 12-18 months I should be paying attention to?

Currently got an i7 9700k, 32GB (2x16GB) of DDR4 3200mhz, and an RTX 4070Ti.

Ill likely keep the GPU for awhile longer, but the platform needs an upgrade as I'm CPU bottlenecked to the tits.

I had no idea ebuyer was dead now

>>106939500
Zen6 coming around Q2/3 next year will be getting 50% more cores (12 per ccx, 24 max) and 50% more L3 cache across the board while intel novalake expected end of 2026 will reach hedt levels of performance with 52 (16+32+4) cores
Both are the largest improvements since zen2 for AMD and 13th gen for intel

>>106939500
Zen 6 and Nova Lake for CPUs
uDNA and Blackwell for GPUs

>>106939500
Rubin rtx6090 might be released late next year if not early 2027
UDNA is releasing sometime in 2027

>>106939537
Any leaks that aren't from MLID on this? About to pull the trigger on a 9800x3d for a good 5-10 year upgrade.

>>106939537
>>106939554
Sounds like a decent time to upgrade. I'll keep my ear to the ground for news.

Thankfully I've got a microcenter nearby and they often do decent platform bundles.

I'll keep

>>106939554
samefagging. Rubin, not Blackwell
>>106939651
if you need the boomp rn just booy desu
but future CPUs do look insanely spicy indeed

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I'm trying to RMA a faulty card but msi has decided to fuck me. amazon canada sold me a card with an american serial number, so they won't give me warranty service

should I complain to amazon or keep bitching to msi?

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WHY IS IT ALWAYS SOLD OUT OUT OF STOCK OR OVERPRICED REEEEE IT'S BEEN FUCKING MONTHS

>>106939729
i mean it looks like an amazon issue but fuck that would suck

>>106939729
Amazon should be able to give you a full refund regardless
>t. Rma'd SSDs abroad with US serial numbers

>>106939729
for warranty claims you're supposed to go to the place you bought it from directly. the aib company is a last resort for say the store goes out of business like frys.

>>106939729
When you buy on amazon it clearly state if its imported, you fucked up

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>>106939729
This is just such shameless kikery I had to laugh

I would demand a refund go to amazon show them this garbage reply and the fuckups

then it's posting shit on reddit and socials and email youtubers and acting like a fucking faggot until it's sorted. Stop trying to be reasonable go full retard karen autistic

>>106939729
Post invoice. It tells you who sells the card when you buy it. If it's not directly from Amazon ca you fucked up

>>106939762
>When you buy on amazon it clearly state if its imported, you fucked up
I'm looking at the page right now and nowhere does it say that the card is imported, and it was sold by amazon via t5he msi store

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>>106939811
it was sold directly by amazon

>>106939834
then take it up with amazon.

see
>>106939756

>>106939820
Well then like the other anon said make a claim via Amazon

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For fucks sake why do I get different answers everywhere when I try to find the best ergo gaming mouse. I got 18x10 hands and claw grip, I'm a variety gamer who does occasionally cs2. Razer? Zowie? Terra? Logitech!?

>>106939859
its something you have to try in person like monitors. people will tell you whats the best but only your eyes/hands can make that call.

Seeing the 7800x3d for £330... Uoooooh I'm gonna cum
I just wish I didn't have AM5 motherboard paralysis. I swear AM4 just broke down to "Get the MSI Tomahawk" here I have no clue what to buy, all I know is the prices are insane.

>>106939851
>>106939756

amazon website told me to fuck off

>>106939878
call them stupid bitch. website is pretty much AI chatbots. get a human on the phone and explain.

>>106939900
Always this, always kvetch, they'll give you some credit for your troubles as well.

>>106939868
Even with AM5 you should get the MSI Tomahawk

>>106939878
Keep trying until you get a rep that's not useless

>>106939910
I had to call newegg because they tried to give me a runaround on a bootleg ssd they sold me. I raised hell on the phone saying my data got corrupted and they baited me with ai lies which is ftc accountable. they quickly folded and gave me refund.

>>106939926
But it's £250 ;-;

>>106939868
for budget b650 eagle
if money is not an issue b870 eagle

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I'm gonna keep bitching but I'm really not good at bitching.

>>106939957
Cheating out on your motherboard isn't a wise choice.

>>106939976
You gotta call them and explain it's a manufacturing defect. Call reps have the ability to start a return for exceptional reasons

>>106939976
dont waste time with indian/ai chatbots. just call them. once you get a human on the phone explain within reason but with angry tone. the call is recorded and they have to resolve it fast and deescalate or it looks bad on them.

>>106939866
fuck me. I just want a monitor with high refresh rate and I dont have to break the bank over.

>>106939979
That's what I mean, I don't exactly want to. Just feel like I'm lost as to what is *the* buy for this gen if that makes sense.
>>106939975
I'll look into them
>>106940007
Literally just this, call, kvetch I don't know why the Anon hasn't already called them. I always am a little call kike.

>>106940007
>>106940015
I tend to be too busy for my own shit let alone phone calls, but if I have to call I will call.

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will RAM prices keep increasing? I might buy a CL30 6000 2x16 kit right now to avoid being jewAI'd out of more money a few weeks from now

>WHY is it so expensive? WHAT CORP AI needs 16gb ram sticks? is it the neckbeard local AI fags causing this skyrocket in prices? or is it DDR4 being kill (which makes no sense cause DDR4 users need a full mobo upgrade to begin with and mobos aren't jumping crazy in price)

>>106940059
They just manufactured a shortage that started about 2-3 months ago so better get yours quick

>>106940059
Personally I wouldn't go with anything less than 2x24GB in 2026+.

2x16GB is sorta the bare minimum at this point.

cant wait for the 3090 AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>106939868
Anon, I've been checking out B850 mobos, and if you are interested in those ones, you should pick either the Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite, MSI Tomahawk Max, or the ASUS TUF Gaming B850-Plus. Here in Burgerland, the price difference between these boards starts at $199 for Gigabyte -> $209 MSI -> $219 ASUS, and all three are fine with minimal specific-use case differences that justify the price differences, but I don't know how these prices translate for you. The MSI one has a whopping 3 10gbps USB-C ports in the back panel, the ASUS one has 1 20gbps USB-C port, and the Gigabye one has 1 10gbps USB-C port. Plenty of USB-As and headers.

MSI has a 5gbps LAN, others are 2.5gbps but beware the MSI one has been reported to be a bit iffy.

All the other differences (in NVMe slots or whatever) are probably of no difference to you, so take a close look at these three, consider price, and decide what's best.

>>106940059
everyone uses samsung and sk hynix for ssd and dram/vram. AI datacenters are accelerating the use of those so price goes up.

>>106940141
why 3090? shit runs hot and loud asf all to be slower than 6950xt.

>>106940160
It can match the 6950xt with 480W and a slight OC

>>106940176
Not according to OP. But if you want to generate porn photos then I guess it's good?

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>5900X still runs great
>no money spent in last 5 years
>not getting scAM5 on PCIe lanes
>basically same experience as latest slop
AM4 chads cannot stop winning bros

How much money could I realistically sell a 3090 for if I do not give a fuck about AI and only want to play games at 1440p240hz? Was thinking about getting a 907xt / 5070ti. I know it's only a ~30% bump in performance for raster, but I don't really give a fuck about ray tracing all that much

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>>106940072
Couldn't find a single one that's reasonably priced on my planned mobo's support list. I tend to play older games, so 32 GB will be fine. Mostly will be on Linux anyway

other than that as >>106940059 this is the RAM I will probably buy tomorrow at $139. It's on my mobo compatibility list and everything looks good, but I've never used this brand before. Is it ok? SP032GXLWU60AFDEAE

Live in UK, budget around 150 pounds, want 1440p, 120-160hz and I want the best image quality possible
someone recommended me Gigabyte GS27QA
any other recommendations or I should just buy that one?

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>>106938534
>Prev: Faggot
Uh oh, did someone have a melty when they saw the previous thread?

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>>106938534
womp womp womp 5080bros

>>106940146
I wonder why the MSI boards have such a price premium over here, it's not even a small amount, the B850 and X870 are only £20 apart which is crazy

>>106940284
>price chart

>>106940332
what mobo are you specifically looking for? b650? b850? x870? ATX? Here, the difference between the 850 Tomahawk Max and the X870 Tomahawk is $50, but unless you need lots of high-speed USB ports or the LED POST display, nothing special in the X870 is of value to you, really. I also considered going X870, but the more I looked into it, the more that $50 truly felt like a waste (I'm going 9800X3D.)

>>106938534
>AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
When did this general turn into faggot libtard?

>>106940350
kek

>>106940265
It depends on your location but where I'm at, it's going for ~95% new 5070ti money. Also you gotta sell before the supers drop since 5070ti super 24gb will lower the floor price of 24gb cuda gpus

>>106940368
Something with decent I/O, PCIE gen 5 as I will upgrade my GPU soon:tm: but I am such a Paradox Games chud it's going to be further down the line. I honestly don't know why I'm stressing so much about it as I've been largely content with my B450 board, just again it's a sense of paralysis.
If you look on PC partpicker and switch to the UK and see the MSI prices you'll see what I'm on about.

>>106940297
Water is wet

>>106940384
its great advice

Who's here with 5800X3D waiting for Zen6 X3D to drop?

>>106940410
Retard

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>>106940404
>PCIe GEN 5
This is still mostly unnecessary afaik but good B850s will have it. X870s too ofc.

>decent I/O
You should elaborate. do you need more than 1 USB-C on the rear panel? You will have more than enough regular USB on pretty much any b850 and certainly x870. Don't forget about case ports too (What case do you have?). Do you need ports with over 10gbps speeds? LAN 2.5G OR 5G? At this tier, you get WIFI7 as well.

>pcpartpicker UK
Yeah I see it, it's not surprising since the MSI of those three boards has *three* USB-C ports AND a 5G LAN (the other two have one on rear only and are at 2.5G). Internally, all three are use-wise identical unless you plan to spam NVMes (don't). Tomahawk also supports one front header up to 20gbps USB-C. ASUS and gigabyte will also get you one front USB-C.

Also, it goes without saying that you should avoid Asrock. Only consider ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI (although MSI is a bit expensive there).

>how much are you willing to spend for a mobo btw?

>>106939957
That's a good price
The Tomahawk is about as solid as it gets
And has a 7 segment display at that price point

>>106940596
>Price
Honestly the cheapskate in me is saying £200~
>WIFI
With Wifi, I already have a dedicated Chinesium card for it, I don't mind going to completely on board though.
>I/O
Right now I'm using 6 USB ports, one for VR so USB 4 is appealing on paper, but how useful it'll be I'm not sure.
>Asrock
Noted, if it makes you feel better, I was actually looking at the Steel Legend for a while being oblivious to the X3D suicide rates.

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seeing an upswing in melted connector posts again. double check your connectors, make sure they look ok from the outside

bonus for having thermal probes to monitor temps

imo we always see this increase during the warmer months, which means some users do not have adequate cooling inside their PCs

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>>106940643
stay safe in these streets
if my connector melts with all of these safeguards in place, at least i can rest easy knowing that i did the best i could

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>>106940651

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>>106940059
>will RAM prices keep increasing?
Yes
BLACK FRIDAY YOU'RE MY ONLY HOPE

>>106939729
follow up for those interested: I contacted amazon customer service and talked to them for a while, they went on a 10 minute hold, came back sounding pissed, and asked me to send all of my information (including all msi correspondence) to their warranty department.

so I'm waiting to see if it resolves or if I get told off again

>>106940688
>they went on a 10 minute hold, came back sounding pissed
It won't be at you, it'll likely be toward the seller kek.

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>>106940635
for ~200 there is no USB4 (40gbps) but the ASUS one has 20gbps. Not a VR gamer myself, so I don't know how much bandwidth is necessary, but I am sure even a 10gbps would be enough, no?

>6 usb ports
for MSI you will get:
4x USB 2.0 and 1x USB 5G
2x USB 10G, one with flash bios
and 3x USB-C 10G as you saw in picrel >>106940596
and this is ignoring any case ports you also have

for ASUS you will get (see this picrel)
1x USB 2.0
4x USB 5G
3x USB 10G
1x USB-C 20G
better typical USB than MSI, only one USB-C, can get one in your case if you need 2. At your price range ceiling.

I don't recommend going cheap on the mobo, so it seems like the ASUS mobo might be the best deal for you?

Just to make myself clear, the only reason why I chose to go for the MSI one instead is that I need more USB-C, and that was really the deciding factor. These boards are completely solid and pretty much identical otherwise. Software-wise, though, no clue, maybe other anons can chime in.

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>>106940688
The AI says to be firm.

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>>106940669
Given this ridiculous price jump and trend I doubt at this point this shit will be reasonable or even available come around black friday. I'm going to just buy this one tomorrow >>106940266
and be done with it

That kit is $249 here. JFC

>>106940718
>No TB4 ports
AMD is a playstation PC

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The cases have the standoffs in them now preinstalled?

Are ecores good or bad for Windows 10

>>106940811
They vary from "no difference" to bad unless you do regular n-thread work.

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>>106939684
it seems quite obvious that you should contact Amazon support, seeing as MSI claims its their fuckup.

>>106940384
Lol, how is Njudea anything but woke tranny horseshit? Being pro-consumer is not a left-wing trait, communists love shitting on the people who they depend on, biting the hand that feeds is a core tenet of communism, retard.

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>>106940778
maybe because thunderbolt is owned by intel? and what genuine use case would 99% of b860 owners have for all that extra speed. same would apply on a b850 with usb4. anyone thinking about that would be going for a higher mobo

>>106940718
Fuck it I'll roll with the cost, it's better to buy once well than to cheap out for something I want to use every day for the next... what 5 years?
Thanks Anon, I feel a bit stupid for holding my pennies I'll try to get a full part list together, now I'm just wondering whether that extra £70 is worth the 10-20% increase in perf from the 7800x3d to the 9800x3d

Razer basilisk v3 pro 35k or razer pro click v2? For gayming

>>106940904
Thunderbolt is royalty free.
USB4 is Thunderbolt 3

>>106940979
>razer
are you 15 or something

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>>106940933
>7800x3d vs 9800x3d
the 7800x3d is without a doubt better value, but it can depend on what you want. For me, it being more recent and therefore having better longevity is mainly the reason why I'm going with the 9800X3D (also better thermals from what I've seen). I also play more CPU-bound games, so that's another benefit right there. What really matters is the price difference between the two though.

picrel is what I will buy this year. I am not planning to buy my gpu (9070xt) now as I don't play games that much rn (only tf2 really) so the igpu is sufficient right now. Delaying the purchase gives me a bit more headroom to really get better other parts as well.

>>106940979
razer huntsman v3

>>106941036
I mean that's what I'm thinking as well where all I really play is CPU heavy vidya, so I don't mind chucking out a bit more for it.
I am being vraped on GPU heavy games, but I rarely play them.
That said it feels a bit chicken or egg, but I know what I prefer with a gun to my head if I had to choose between PDX sloppa and FPS for the rest of my life.

>>106940979
>>106941043
oh those are mice, get a logitech g502x plus whichever one uses the new switches that don't double click

>>106941071
what gpu are you considering? I am keeping an eye on both 5070ti and 9070xt (9070xt is more attractive to me cause linux). I do wonder what impact the new 5070 supers in 26 will have on both cards prices. Even now they're above MSRP which is crazy

>>106940979
I had a G502 that died on me at the start of this year, and after hearing about the dogshit G502x issues, I bought the Basilisk V3 Pro. I'm quite happy with it but its expensive

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>>106941036
>For me, it being more recent and therefore having better longevity is mainly the reason why I'm going with the 9800X3D
It's not commensurate with the premium it carries over the 7800X3D since prices came back down from the spring, and especially with discounted/tray 7800X3Ds on sale between now and Black Friday.
>(also better thermals from what I've seen).
In gaming they are about the same and in all-core workloads the 7800X3D is a bit cooler which makes sense as it boosts to only 5Ghz rather than the 5.3 Ghz the 9800X3D can because of the changes to the VCache die sandwich. Also the 9800X3D has slightly higher power consumption to boot. See:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d/25.html
Fuck it I'm gonna say it, the 9800X3D is to the 14900K what the 7800X3D is to the 13900K

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Why did they do it?

>>106941120
RX 9070XT for the same reason, but I can wait it out as the prices keep dropping as per the Radeon curve.
I am a bit sad that I would lose RTX and PhysX and a few other features, but, the VRAPE is insane and I'm not in the mood for dropping £2k on it and I'll lost most of the PhysX stuff if I go 5XXX anyway.

>>106941142
arent they all on amd's gpu board or something

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>Win32PrioritySeparation Tweak

where have you been all my life? my computer feels brand new now.

>>106939729
jeff at amazon dot com
andy at amazon dot com
Worked for me when the PSVR2 adapter I bought came with a severely ripped box TWICE. Just make sure the situation is in your favor.

>>106939976
Chargeback your credit card

>>106941131
The 7800x3d is nowhere to be found in US stock rn and I don't know if there will be another sale till early black friday/black friday (and then it will presumably instantly run out of stock)

I do not disagree at all about it being the better value cpu, blender temps I didn't know about but I don't plan to do any modeling or whatever with it although I thought in gayming it was cooler? guess not. I wouldn't say I've finalized my decision yet but given it all only being $1.2k future-proofing it now doesn't sound like a bad idea, especially since all this AI shit makes me question how expensive hardware is gonna get down the line.

>>106939729
>>106940688
>>106941178
I forgot to mention, if you are going the jeff and andy route, include all the prior Amazon CS fuck ups in your email. Everything is to be used against themselves, but keep your cool.

>>106939729
msi customer support sends its regards

>>106941177
Explain

>>106941210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MF8XjDdr64
tldr windows by default uses very garbage scheduling setting because of toasters

adjusting it from the default gives you better fps or better input latency. its up to you which you prefer.

>>106938534
HOLY SHIT how is the card WORSE as the 4090 that was lats gens card lmao

>>106941144
I won't deny the 5070ti is the ""better"" choice (very slightly performance wise) with "cooler" features but said features are almost meaningless to me, be it AI gen stuff or whatever. I am already going crazy overkill with a 9070xt/5070ti to begin with (old games at 2k high refresh rate), and I am only getting the overkill gpu in case I decide to quit being a nostalgiafag and play some new games (got quite the backlog) and for futureproofing because AIfags are obliterating the market and this economy is going down the shitter with tariffs and whatnot.

>>106941228
it's funny how he shows it doing literally nothing in the benchmarks

what are some good white reverse fans for an o11d that aren't like 35$ each (I need 9)

>>106941257
look more closely. default 1% = 448. tweaked 1% = 473.

also you can trade fps for better input latency. think how framegen gives better smoothness at the cost of input lag.

>>106941267
>look more closely. default 1% = 448. tweaked 1% = 473
that's 5%
>also you can trade fps for better input latency
if you're running the same settings in game more FPS will always give you less input lag

>>106941295
>more FPS will always give you less input lag
normally yes but this changes how the OS itself schedules the cpu.
https://khorvie.tech/win32priorityseparation/

>>106940160
ia slop i don't care about gaymin

Looking for AM5 mobo:
>WIFI7
>ethernet combinations including 2,5 / 10 Gbit
Is there any reason to consider those over WIFI6 and 1Gbit? What possibly could require more bandwidth over 125Mbit for gaming / media endpoint? 4k streaming is nowhere close (40 Mbit tops?)
Unless 7 (or 6E) gives more reliability such as range / power (to penetrate walls)?

>>106941305
>but this changes how the OS itself schedules the cpu
that still doesn't affect your input lag
the windows 11 scheduler is garbage but you can't fix it with a registry setting
5% difference in 1% lows is basically margin of error considering the game could compile one shader in the background and all your results are invalidated

>>106941323
>Is there any reason to consider those over WIFI6 and 1Gbit?
the network card model is more important than the maximum supported speed
realtek NICs are generally reliable these days but they are less sophisticated hardware so they put more load on your CPU
intel NICs have better drivers and features but they've had a lot of problems with 2.5gbit (I225-V/I226-V)
i would choose intel 1gbit over anything else (if that's an option)

>>106938534
I'm not getting baited into buying another AMD card

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>106941428
Kill yourself in a housefire caused by 12vhpr then njudean kike

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might be stupid question
how do i know if the motherboard will fit with dual tower hsf? will it hit my ram?

MSI PRO B850-P
DEEPCOOL AG620
KLEVV FIT V CL30

>>106941323
Some people have internet speeds beyond 1gbps and want to utilize those speeds on a single client device.

Wifi7 also supports certain operation modes that can lower latency compared to Wifi6 but you'd need a router/access point that supports those modes too.

>>106941545
Sorry B850M-P
the matx one

What's a good AM5 m-ITX motherboard that's under $300 and not ASRock

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>>106941545
You will be fine.
Motherboard doesn't matter.
Check the website of the cooler's manufacturer.
Then check the height of the RAM and there you go.

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I'm going to start the next thread, and I'm going to make sure it is Intel/Nvidia only and cites several userbenchmark reviews

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two threads mass reply because it's important inc

>>106930775
>ASUS OLED monitor owners don't notice how often their Pixel Cleaning kicks in because it's programmed to start if the monitor's been in standby mode for 5 minutes or turned off.
>No QD-OLED monitor can completely disable this feature.
this behavior is way better and completely different to the 16h counter and FORCING a refresh after X set time use, due to the buggy nature of it
one simple trick like this plus being able to disable pixel shift, is literally why Asus is one of the few buyable oled monitor brands, except of course the horrendous pricing in general
why does no one understand what I mean yet? use enough shitty monitors and u will understand why this is shit

>>106930617
>>oled substructure is ass
>wdym?
means oled needs way more pixels to simulate how lcd looks for the same sharpness, which is why I would recommend 4k instead of 1440p, but I guess that is how 1440p looks regardless kind of

>>106930809
>does this mean OLED is still a no-go?
for entertainment purposes TVs mog monitors 10x, like how long are you gonna wait until you get 500nits SDR/2400 nits peak oled monitors? very long
unless HZmaxxing, get 500hz sure

>>106930977
>and they perform better in every way except brightness.
bad oled care makes oled monitors near unsuable, would you accept that your car shuts down and is not working on a 16hour timer? this is an insane implementation and the engineers NEED to jump off the roofs for this one

>Anyone who says oled is expensive/not worth it is outing themselves as a newfag.
it kind of is now that I've tried them, I would honestly go for TVs at this point, or a 500hz

>>106931057
finna buy an embody

>>106938534
>1440p gaming
>RX 9070
>ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM
Ok but what if I already have an Intel CPU? Do I just go with a 5070/5070 TI? Is nVidia really that bad?
UK BTW

why are people replying to the schizo OP even today
just report and ignore

>>106941771
The thread was started by a schizo who shills amd.
You're fine

>>106941732
>finna buy an embody
NTA, but I ended up getting a LiberNovo Omni. Less than half of an Embody.

>>106941789
I was actually strongly considering the 9070 anyway. Is it not worth it price wise if you aren't getting SAM?

>>106941771
SAM is just resizable BAR with a different name
OP is a retarded tranny, intel+radeon works fine

>>106941812
alot of chairs that are shilled are from american brands or some shit and not even available here, seems embody is the default soi chair though so I guess I will cop it, maybe, seems more safe than the Aeron
if not them then I will have to go with some of the office cuck chairs

and oh yeah I need to wait for the HM sale on bf or something, I have been sitting on kitchen chairs for a while now, also I need a new desk also, plus I also need a monitor in general, my neck posture looking down has been fucking annihilating my neck lately, I noticed this was bad after having a monitor for a while and going back now, yeah it's actually bad

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>>106941824
Do not get tricked by this lying faggot SAM denier intelaviv njudea shill >106941828
SAM with all AMD pc is the best implementation of rebar

>>106941858
we already discussed this before, that's a gigabyte board with broken rebar

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>106941879
>Source
>My rotten trans nvidia neo-clitty that is oozing puss and shit

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>>106941824
Do not fall for the SAM meme. Like >>106941828
says, it's just a different marketing name like XMP & EXPO.

>>106941858
Retard faggot cherry-picking the most Radeon-favored game in recent history.
There's no difference between Re-Bar or SAM.

>High visual settings! GPU bottlenecked!
That's exactly what HWUB Steve did when he compared this feature.

>>106941824
Depends on what the price of the 9070 is vs the 5070.
Like in the United States it's $50-$100 more expensive for a 9070 over a 5070, that's of course not worth it.

>>106941924
5070 has less than 16GB of VRAM, it isn't worth any money.

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>106941903
kill yourself

>>106941937
The vram isn't a big deal for this level of performance.
As of right now and for at least the rest of the console gen 12gb will be totally fine.

>>106941948
The 5070 is easily powerful enough to make use of 16GB, I would have bought one instead of my 5070 Ti if it wasn't crippled.

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>>106941924
>>106941937
These are the cheapest for each
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/s8YC74

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here you go
you can stop reposting that retarded image now
(but i know you won't)

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>>106941948
>As of right now and for at least the rest of the console gen 12gb will be totally fine.
Dumb nigger it already isn't fine. 16gb minimum for 1440p and other high resolutions.

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>>106941941
Dumb fuck retard, even AMD's GPUOpen article notes SAM is just enabling a standard PCIe function.
https://gpuopen.com/learn/get-the-most-out-of-smart-access-memory/

There's no disadvantage when you enable ReBar on an Intel CPU with a Radeon card.
Stay on topic.

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>>106941972
Dumn nigger posting stale charts like the Retardeon they are.

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>>106942023
Novideo has terrible 1% lows and stuttering in oblivion remastered because rebar doesn't work.

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>>106941968
At the same price, I personally would still lean towards Nvidia. But basically you weigh out rt performance + featureset vs more memory. Like framegen does have value and is a lot better than the alternatives, path tracing/heavy raytracing is still a no go on amd, etc.
9070 is marginally faster outside of rt, think like ~10%, and the memory is nice but settings that go over 12gb usually aren't playable on either gpu, though there are exceptions especially at 4k
The guy posting the screenshots with harry potter and the anime character is a known schizo who just shills amd, I wouldn't take anything he typed up into serious consideration.

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>>106942032
Radeon & GeForce GPUs have very different chip designs with different bottlenecks.
GeForce GPUs are less reliant on ReBar because they have larger, lower-level on-die caches.
Radeon's on-die, but higher-level, Infinity Cache is too busy making up the bandwidth deficit of the GDDR6 chips.

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>>106941771
>Is nVidia really that bad?
Yes. Terrible 1% lows and stuttering in many games due to bad rebar implementation and driver overhead.
>Ok but what if I already have an Intel CPU?
Return it and the mobo or sell secondhand then switch to all AMD for the smoothest pc gaming experience.

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PooForce so dogshit in Borderlands 4 that a Radeon APU is faster than 5060 and not far behind 5060 ti

>>106942078
if radeon is so good why does it have 6% market share retard ape ?

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>106942097
Because of turd worlder Indians and SEA monkeys next question

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>>106942078
>>106942091
This is what Retardeons do: they cite broken games to prove a point.

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>>106941625
>What's a good AM5 m-ITX motherboard that's under $300 and not ASRock
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bYytt6/gigabyte-b650i-aorus-ultra-mini-itx-am5-motherboard-b650i-aorus-ultra
^Would be my pick, as despite it's size it still features 3xNVME slots, 4 SATA ports, and 1 USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Header.

>>106942061
Nvidia is 110-180 squiggly Ls more though. The 5070 with only 12GB of VRAM isn't even worth considering.

>>106942061
>>106941968
I just noticed that the 5070 is 30# cheaper than the 9070, would go 5070 universally there if this is the price point you prefer.
If electricity costs are a concern Nvidia does pull less power both at stock and undervolted.

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>>106942104
It's because Radeon shat out mediocre cards during the very important PS4 generation of hardware cycles.
Don't act like you didn't own a GTX card, even you knew GeForce made the best cards.
The vast majority of gamers in the world also knew Radeon cards were inferior.

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The Triple A release that made nviditroons 41% themselves

>>106942162
that chart shows only NVIDIA can play the game at acceptable framerate

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>>106942162
That slop is already discounted when Randy Pitchford told people not to expect this game to be discounted very soon.

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We back in full brand war mode??

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>106942181
kys intard

isnt it nice when a website doesnt have mods
or accounts

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>>106942211
You must pair Ryzen X3D CPUs with GeForce cards for the best BF6 performance.

when are we getting **24gb** 5080 gpus
||I don't need it but I'm upgrading a 10 yr old pc and I want one||

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>>106942220
yes it is actually

>>106942247
Realistically, 5080 Super with 24GB will launch next February~April. It will be scalped.
Performance might be close to a stock 4090, and it will have multi-frame generation (not a big deal imo).
4090 owners did well (as long as their power connector didn't melt).

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>106942254
Time to kill yourself. First cyberpunk and now another Njudea showcase game has FSR 4

>>106942264
Doesn't matter; GeForce cards will look better and run faster.

>>106942264
fsr doesn't change the stack though, not even maxed rt btw

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4K 60 FPS Wukong no problem on 9060 XT even thanks to FSR 4

>>106942148
polaris was always mid
idk why is it praised as one of the best
Clearly 2gb vram + 50$ coupon XD
Legit retardadeons

>>106942292
rx 480 was faster than 1060 in dx12 and eventually dx11 too after driver updates and cheaper. that is why your beloved njudea was forced to cut prices even on the 1060. kill yourself

>>106942291
What is performance mode in case? Upscaled from 480p?

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

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>>106942315
Good fan fiction. Imagine being proud of a Radeon -80 card competing against a GTX 1060.

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>106942350
>Muh name cope
>Posts chart of Polaris beating 1060
I accept your concession

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>>106942223
25.10.1 driver for bf6 is a preview driver and AMD is not done improving performance for the main driver release

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>>106942376
Except the RX 580 GPU was on a more advanced 14nm node vs the 1060's 16nm, the 580 was also a larger chip with more transistors (+16%).
All that to compete vs. a 1060.
That's the history of Radeon.

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Faulty PSU rekt my AM4 board with a n1 reboot during bios update. I have a 3600x and 32gb of ram. What would you rec for a cpu and board if I want to turn it into a nas that can play x265 for jellyfin?

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>>106942392
His fan-fiction. No one cares.

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>106942425
It literally says in your image it's a beta driver you fucking retard

>>106942315
no retard

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>>106942445
>beta driver
To address Adrenaline driver-related instabilities when playing BF6, those Driver Hung memes you like to shitpost also happen on Radeon cards.
Too bad Radeon couldn't catch all those errors because it's still happening on the beta patch.

You're the dumbass who's coping about a nonexistent future performance patch.

amd retards really are insufferable

>>106939331
>reuse the ram
no reason to go to AM4 for a new system unless you can get a good deal on the parts. Find a a $150 14600k and you have AM5 level performance while being able to reuse your ram.
Honestly though, reusing ram might not be worth it. DDR5 and DDR4 prices are starting to intersect so if you're able to resell your current ram that'll recoop a fair chunk of the cost of going to DDR5.

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>>106938534
>RYZEN 5 5600
>Rz 9060xt 16gb from a 6600 (still have it)
>Windows 11
>Have an extra tb drive just for gaming
>180hz msi monitor
>Hyperx cloud 3 headset

Yep it's gaming time. Thinking of picking up cyberpunk 2077 and enabling path tracing alongside fsr 4. Looks like the future of gaming graphics to me on YouTube. All those faggots claiming graphics can't get better are wrong.

>>106942626
>enabling path tracing
Yeah good luck with that. Even on the 9070xt it's not really viable, not to mention the denoising issue...

>>106942626
Have fun, but PT will tank that card's performance.

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so done with this paste leaking out of my 5080 and all these fucking driver issues. i was in the middle of scrolling zachs tech turf instagram when my whole screen went static. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

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>7900XTX

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>install intake fan at bottom of case
>CPU runs 5-6 degrees cooler
wow i guess what people said about the 5000 series heating up your CPU was accurate.

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>>106942626
>path tracing
Bruh, I don't even know if 9070xt or 5070 can do path tracing at 1080p. I could barley get a stable 60-80 fps at 3440x1440 w/ dlss balanced working on a 5070 ti, with +425 overclock.

My case has a honking metal wall like half an inch iaway from the gpu fans how much would this fuck heat performancr.

>>106942908
5070 can do it at 1080p and 1440p, 9070xt really can't at any resolution, or at least do it well enough to be worth using over regular rt.

>>106942885
Case?
Because this sounds like an oven with no airflow.

>>106942931
NZXT H7 Flow (2024)
>oven with no airflow
you're probably right, i kind of regret choosing it but oh well

>>106942908
Then I will have to go extreme performance mode. I think it will be worth it even for just a few hours of play. It's the only graphically impressive thing out there in the current market. It would be like sacrificing frames just so you can play crysis back in the day.

>>106942944
>graphically impressive
If you care about that why would you buy a radeon card, especially a low end one?

>>106942942
It should be quite good.
What RPM you run your front fans at?

>>106942949
Because I don't like Nvidia.

>>106942966
20% below 60 degrees. bottom intake and rear exhaust at the same speed, because they're all plugged into a hub. i wondered if it was a bad idea but it didnt seem to cause any issues.

besides video games for children, why do you need a GPU¿?

I only have gigabit ethernet in my mobo, but could use 2.5 GbE to speed up access to my NAS. what's the cheapest option that won't suck ass? PCIe NIC, or something else?

>>106943009
to produce video signals to a display

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>>106942735
Does this happen with the PNY model?

>>106943002
20% on a 1700RPM fan is very low. Those are barely moving, no wonder you lowered your temps by adding a single fan.

>>106943009
so I can become a braindead brand drone and shitpost like you

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>>106942032
not him but that seems to be because the nvidia profile for it is disabled. I've noticed in a lot of games I gain a big boost to my 0.01%'s by forcing it on and setting like 2-4GB buffer for it.

>>106943037
Nice you are so intelligent, why should one buy a external gpu when an APU is sufficient.

>>106943047
Tengo mucho olor a caca, te juro que me limpie bien

>>106943051
I don't have an APU.

>>106943042
i replaced the fans it came with with three arctic ps14 pro pst. so 140mm 2500 rpm. not sure why adding another fan lowered temps so much though

>>106943051
APU? the thing they put in playstations and steam decks?

>>106942097
if mcdonald's is so shit why does it have majority market share?

>>106943070
decades long real estate scheme carrying them

Dont you gamers read? besides being an infant and "playing" videogayms, why would an adult buy a gpu card when you can buy a cpu with integrated grafics, i dont undestand the hostilyti.. is just a question

>>106943078
For anything that needs acceleration from a gpu.

>>106943078
we can read, no one cares

>>106943087
Can you give me an example?

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Note: Don't plug the usb c power cable from a portable monitor into your usb c port on your mobo for power during setup. Unless you want to lag bios out.

>>106943078
I don't know why any needs computers at all like discord is on phones now, whatsapp, amazon, it's all on phones

>>106943093
If you dont care dont respond faggot

I'm using my phone on 4chan right now the time for the PC is over

>>106943066
Oh, I thought you were stuck with default ones.
You should try to do some 1:1 testing.
Run p95 and furmark.
Then set the RPM to 0 for that bottom fan and see if the temps go up significantly.

>>106943098
Okay big one right now, ai.

>>106943118
>I'm using my phone on 4chan right now
this should give you a permaban on all boards

>>106943127
But it don't though sooo....sybau

Im going to masturbate now

>>106943139
Remember to think about me Anon.

>>106938534
Which RX 9070 XT would you recommend?
Never had a AMD GPU before, only NVIDIA ones from MSI

>>106943283
None. MSI don't even sell Radeon trash any more.

>>106943283
A 5070ti

>>106943283
Avoid models with 12VHPWR connectors.
You can check if certain models come with extended warranty.
Other than that it doesn't really matter.

>>106943283
The cheapest one. Like maybe PowerColour Reaper or Sapphire Pulse. Avoid 12VHPWR.

>>106943329
>>106943313
>12VHPWR
qrd on why?

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>>106943343
It can melt.

>>106943343
baby duck syndrome

>>106943373
god damn, i thought this was an rtx problem

>>106943343
Fire.
If you make a slight error in connecting the cable, all the current can go through just a few of the pins and exceed their limits, and there's no built in protections for that (some cards have some protections for it but they are quite minimal). It probably wouldn't effect 9070xts as much as 4090s or 5090s because they use much less power but there's still not much reason to get a 12vhpwr card instead of one with regular connectors.

4080 super or 5070ti?

Should I waste all my savings on building a pc, or should I admit that I am an adult and stop playing video games?

>>106943438
If building a PC will waste all your saving then go back to work.

>>106943434
5070ti unless that 4080 super is an insane deal

>>106943438
If you're an adult it shouldn't be hard for you to spend $1000-$4000 every like 4ish years. It's a cheap hobby

>>106943438
what do adults do? watch football? or some retarded sitcom? how is that different from playing gaems? like fr, you need some off time, what's the difference between doing whatever the fuck "adult stuff" means and playing computer games?

>>106943438
just buy an rog ally or some shit you'll play way more games

>>106943458
I am on my way to work right now

>>106943438
be an adult and watch fox news all evening after you get back from work.

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>>106943532
adults now fyi

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>>106942735
I love my 4090

>>106943470
what would be an insane deal?

Guys is an m3 MacBook Pro with 18gb of ram just not enough for RuneScape 3? I still get frame drops in player hubs. Like 5 fps which is absurd...I think this might the universe telling me to just play OSRS instead lmao.

>>106943313
>>106943329
aye, forgot to ask, so no need for the oc versions?

>>106943642
If you cared about OC you could grab model with dual BIOS and simply flash it with BIOS from OC model.
People even flash 9070non-XT with XT BIOS to unlock power limits.
But do you really want to push those cards even further when they are pushed to the limit from the factory?
You could gain maybe 10% if you are lucky.

>>106943601
Like maybe $700 or under? Idk really, it's overall basically tied with the 5070ti so...

>>106941198
>if you are going the jeff and andy route
The what?
Is this like a peasant coming to the capital with a petition to the emperor or something?

>>106943458
Also wagies, you can finance pretty much everything. EVERYONE can have a 5090.

>>106943343
>>106943401
they fixed that issue stop being a pussy

>>106943772
You are escalating to the top of the chain

>>106943438
this please. be like me, be a man.

>>106938534
Does anyone play RE games?

idk, make me too nervous.

>>106943856
Resident evil is slop

What is a good CPU fan speed control program that works outside of going into the BIOS?

>>106943898
fancontrol?

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>>106943917
>>106943917

>>106943870
aha. How about the slenderman g

>>106943947
slenderman is just a black person

>>106943672
My 9070 pulse barely sees any benefit just going from 220W to 242W. Benchmark scores go up, sure, but game performance is more or less the same or worse.

>>106944436
Yea, silicon lottery is a bitch. But did you try XT bios?
Extra 10% power limit isn't much, but 50% is quite a lot.
Still for 50% higher power draw you will maybe gain 15% more performance.
Kinda risky because you don't have a backup if anything goes sideways.

>>106944685
I'm able to go out to 269W on the stock bios since I'm on Linux but anything past 242W falls off a cliff in performance. Not going to risk a flash since it's not dual bios.

>>106941016
No, I just want quality.
>>106941043
That's a keyboard
>>106941090
Can you explain more why
>>106941120
How long have you been using it? Im only concerned about the rubber, otherwise I'd buy it

>>106939227
>skip to highlight
>crash only happens if you use framerate interpolation
lol?

was the 5700XT a flagship on its release? i've been having issues of random black screens where the sound cuts out and no signal in the middle of playing FFXIV capped at 60FPS

>>106945254
Since January, it's pretty good, everything werks, but as usual, for Bluetooth YMMV per device. Be sure to never lose the USB dongle, too. There's a neat little part under the mouse for you to store the dongle in it, but you can take it and the lid off to save a bit of weight on the mouse. The battery will last you for a few days, and cable is also an option obviously. Id say I have medium-large hands and it fits my hand nicely but be sure to watch reviews and chcek images to get a reference for your own hands.

the software werks on windows, but for me on Linux the (open source 3rd party) drivers were a mess so I just set the mouse DPI to one option since no UI. But it also werks there otherwise.

>build quality
There is a bit of scratch on the rubber on the right side, but this mouse travels with me a lot, so I'm not too surprised. No damage anywhere else. The rubber is nice and the mouse doesn't feel "weird" or "cheap" to me. Overall I would recommend it, but of course make sure its the right one for you first

>>106939206
>>106939232
>>106939261
>>106939287
The amount of cope here is insane Nvidia has drivers issues and no amount of you pretending it isn't happening isn't going to make it go away unfortunately it's time to stop living in a bubble

>>106940643
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>>106940662
This is actually insane it's almost like you are retarded Nvidia users really are NPC's and this confirms it

>>106941996
>Gaytracing
>useless tech
>95% of people don't even use it
You keep using this benchmark to prove to people that nvidia is better but also proving that you are in fact that low IQ nigger that should self execute

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bros i have an aorus 9070xt and i need to decide which case should i buy , the gpu clearance is enough for all three cases and all of em have sufficient airflow can you anons suggest me which one i should go for (prices are basically same the only difference is fan quality at this point)

>>106943283
it depends on your regional pricing , you can go for an asus prime oc or a hellhound oc

>>106943590
This is me except I get back home at 8pm so I don't have time to do any of those leisurely things