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>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
RTX 50 Super, 2026 launch? 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super. Potentially cancelled, likely q3 if still being released
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"
AMD FSR "Redstone" Arrives December 10, Exclusive to Radeon RX 9000 Series

>Product Notice

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/


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>Bought an MSI b850 mobo
>wifi card drivers only available for windows 11
Welp guess I'm switching to windows 11 you Hebraic faggots finally got me

>>107316383
Now that's a Chad build. See how it doesn't even need a PSU? It runs on pure testosterone, zero fucks given.

>>107316418
10 and 11 have basically the same backend, so the drivers probably still work on 10. If it doesn't let you install them, you could also try spoofing 11.

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i got a third one
i must say, it is nice having 3 of the same monitor because they are all calibrated the exact same.

>>107316574
If it's Wi-Fi 7, you'll need Windows 11 for full speeds.

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Just your daily reminder you're nearing the end of your last chance to get any pc part that uses memory (including gpus) for "cheap." We could see things get worse than covid era
Also rdna4 likely will age poorly in comparison to blackwell, you only buy amd gpus at this point if you're hardcore team red or pricing is totally insane where you live. "muh value" argument is long dead and buried

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>>107316627
Another reason to buy amd gpus is that nvidia gpus don't work on your operating system...

i can sense it
r590 driver tomorrow
it will fix all the remaining bugs
nvidia will be back on top

>>107316418
I bought a x670e board that has full support for win10. I also use a cat5 cable like a sane person for a gaming PC. just cablemaxx anon, wifi is for laptops and brown people

>>107316715
considering the indiapocalypse that just happened on twitter, i think you might be right

>>107316574
I tried, win10 doesn't recognize them.
>spoofing
how does one do this
>>107316588
>will probably last 15 years drawing so little power
Too bad it's gaydeon and will be useless in 2 years regardless

>>107316715
nta but I was using Wi-Fi on my desktop when I was living with my parents, they didn't want me running cable and powerline didn't work that well in the house. Wi-Fi is pretty good these days, but yeah you should always run ethernet if you have the option.

>>107316681
>unironically using Troonux
something something how do you know someone's a vegan?

>>107316681
>nvidia gpus don't work on your operating system
I dont know any operating system in which nvidia doesn't work. Granted I'm not allknowing.
If you mean GNU/Linux, then you're wrong because nvidia works pretty well on Linux nowadays. I've been using a 4070 super for over a year now on Arch with proprietary drivers, and, while it's not at feature parity with windows (looking at you DLDSR), it doesn't bring me any major issues or headaches.
>inb4 directx12 overhead
OK. yes, no argument against that

>>107316715
I live in a small 3-apartment building and the modem is shared between units hidden god knows where so I'm stuck with wifi for now. Surprisingly good speeds for the setup though, nearing 500mbps on good days, it's probably frying my brain.

>>107316769
>it's probably frying my brain.
Dude I have so many fucking Wi-Fi networks at my apartment, like I can see at least 30, each unit has one. I probably need to turn my bedroom into a faraday cage to avoid getting cancer but I don't know where to start.

>>107316759
I'm talking about OpenBSD. That's why I posted an image of the OpenBSD mascot with the filename "openbsd0.jpg"

WiFi 10 will cook your balls.

>5070 ti costs 150 dollaridoos more and loses half of the benchmarks
nvidiabros, don't watch @ 12:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDligqbbPGs

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Just grabbed a 280hz MSI 1440p QD-OLED for $339, das rite

>>107316805
He seems retarded anon, I'm a windows cuck and I even knew that's why you did that.

>>107316808
>ai sloppa frames
Grim that amjeets need to cope with this, how the tables have turned.

>>107316808
>>107316588
>and the card will probably last 15 years drawing so little power
lol in 5 years there won't be drivers for it lmao

>>107316809
Very nice, anon. Is it your first OLED? If so, you'll never be able to go back to any other display type for your monitors.

>>107316822
I thought dlss was a selling point?

>>107316827
>lol in 5 years there won't be drivers for it lmao
True, this is why I'll never buy AMD. Nvidia supports their cards for at least 10 years, which is what the standard should be.

>>107316834
Not for whites

>>107316681
Why does the open bsd mascot have such great dick sucking lips? Is this intentional?

>>107316834
It is if you're white and not transexual

Is the 9070xt actually more power efficient than the 5070ti when you undervolt it? I feel like they cranked it way too far to get as close as possible to the 5070ti for marketing purposes.

>>107316752
enjoy having everything on your computer recorded and used for AI training so peter thiel and the techbros become zillionaires

>>107316831
>Is it your first OLED?
First OLED monitor, I am expecting the colors to blow me away compared to this cheap ASUS 1440p IPS

I really wanted a 4k OLED but the prices on them are insane for anything with DP 2.1, and then that makes me paranoid about burn in.

>>107316865
>Is the 9070xt actually more power efficient than the 5070ti when you undervolt it?
No, the 5070ti is significantly more power efficient. If you pay for your own electricity, you should get the 5070Ti. Even undervolted, the 9070xt is barely below the 5070Ti, while undervolting the 5070ti is like 30W less.

>>107316865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-8HRQp0hN4

>>107316873
4K is nice at 32" but it's kind of waste at 27" anyway, 1440p still looks good at 1440p. Plus in motion, you'll notice the colors on the OLED more than resolution of a larger monitor. Enjoy, make sure you use HDR whenever possible, RenoDX and RTX HDR are much better than Windows Auto HDR for games with bad or no implementation.

>>107316893
>220W
>5070ti is 220W at stock and can comfortably go down to 190W with no loss
Grim, some can even go lower but 190W is like the minimum for a 5070Ti undervolt.

>>107316895
>1440p still looks good at 27"
My bad

>>107316383
is that motherboard msi? remind me the ol good days

>>107316900
5070ti is 25% more expensive

>>107316905
Ya I could go 32" but 27" was easier and is a direct drop in, and I agree it looks fine at that res

Guess I will see if the text issues are real or overhyped for myself

Does it make sense to buy a new 5070 Ti for 800€ when used 4070 Ti Super go for 550-600€?

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KTC M27P6 or Koorui S2741LM?

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>new build parts incoming
>gonna re-use my GFX card
>gonna put old PC to work as headless /hsg/ box sometime later
>looking for old GFX card that was in old PC long time ago
>realize i gave it away before move to new place
>mfw i realize i need a temporary vidyacard for old PC so i can keep running Windows on it while I setup new build

Thoughts on this monitor? Open to alternatives.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MAG-321CUP-QD-OLED-Adaptive-Synch/dp/B0DPXZP328/

>>107317057
Use your current video card to set up that old PC, then move that card to your new build?

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>finally bought a new card after sitting on my 970 for years
>I don't have desire to play videogames anymore
What the fuck
I can't believe I wasted my prime gaming years being a waitfag and now I can't even stomach looking at my Steam wishlist. It's so fucking over. I'm an old man.

>>107317105
>alternatives
Pay a bit more for the non curved one imo, should be fine otherwise.

>>107317125
common unc L

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>>107317105
The curved 32" 4K QD-OLED monitors are 2nd gen panels, I wouldn't buy it.

>Open to alternatives
Buy ones that feature 3rd gen panels, this one is an example.
https://us.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-321URX-QD-OLED
There are plenty of other 4K 32" QD-OLED monitors with 3rd gen panels.

Hello my friends. I am putting together a pc for a friends grandkid. My intention is to use parts from my PC and then charge him the price of the parts from my PC to upgrade my shit.

Since RAM is insane right now I'm going to take 16GB of DDR5 out of my build. (Down to 48)

I'm also going to take my 6700XT out and put that in his build. My plan is to upgrade my GPU with the "labor" costs it cost me to put together this PC.

Any tips for keeping this build under 1000 dollars on my part? I have a microcenter near me. Thanks. -HH

>>107317125
I'm kinda on the same boat, you spend the entire day worried about real life stuff it's hard to sit down and play videogames. I have to go back into dota, it's the only game that can capture my attention, or play a new competitive multiplayer.

>>107317138
It's time to start proompting.

>>107317170
I would give deadlock a try.

>>107317056
Who the fuck is Koorui?

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they are laughing at us

>>107317188
I did, and I wrote a long review of it, it's not for me, too simple for dota players, too low skill for cs players, deadlock is a game for tf2 players, the main skill is doing the movement quirks.

>>107317121
wat, it's in the old PC already?

new build has 7945HX3D so Radeon 610M iGPU but - monitor is a 4k 120hz and that weak-ass iGPU is only 4k 60Hz, so i'll be ok for now

>i'm just mad at myself for giving the old card away
>and it might be nice to have hardware console for the server so i still need some sort of vidyacard for it

>>107317141
Figured there was a catch, thanks king.

>>107317208
MSI MAG 321UP is a $650 165Hz 4K QD-OLED monitor with a Gen 3 panel.
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-321UP-QD-OLED
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4HkH99/msi-mag-321up-qd-oled-315-3840-x-2160-165-hz-monitor-mag-321up-qd-oled

>>107317195
Micron Technology jumped 8% today. Analyst calling for their stock to go from the already-high $225 to $335.

First day in a week the prices of shit I bought didn't go up. Are we stabilizing?

>Nawww!!

>open AI launches
>everyone gives all the money to open AI
>they find out they use nvidia gpus
>everyone gives all the money to nvidia
>they find out gpus need ram
>everyone give all the money to samsung hynix and micron

Where next?

>>107317320
Copper mines.

>>107317332
What GPU is best for copper mining?

tldr why the fuck are ram prices skyrocketing?

>>107317344
the demand exceeds supply

>>107317320
>they find out sam altman needs bussy
>everyone on /g/ gets kidnapped and sent to his rape dungeon

>>107317347
The invisible hand predicted this

Waitfags leta talk about 6000 series while we wait
It's gonna be 3nm

>>107317347
Just more AI bubble?

>>107317374
4k gaming will finally be a reality.
still 16gb btw

>>107317344
OpenAI bought up 40% of global supply or some shit, this triggered a toilet paper panic with RAM.

>>107317380
theres the cartels, samsung/sk hynix/micron who manage supply so the prices dont go down

since they are careful not to oversupply the market its easy for big AI datacenter investment to disrupt the balance.

>>107317344
AI data centers, ALL orders for 2026 DRAM are full with no more capacity for everyone else. Consumer market resorting to purchasing ram from the spot market that's normally reserved for emergency use... and as said, demand outstripped supply. Expect the prices that have already doubled twice to double again. And again.,

>>107317401
>>107317404
Can someone pls make this shit burst already?!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>107317404
just wait for CXMT

>>107317424
The value you get from having access to free/cheap ai far exceeds the value of ram even at these prices though.
It's not a bubble anyway and therefore not bursting

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>>107317424
he can

>>107317424
It will. But not through anything OpenAI, Nvidia, chip makers, or other big baller companies do. The AI bubble will burst when all the smaller companies that went all in on AI realize it won't solve all their problems and make them Fortune 500 companies. They'll be wiped out, the big boys will be left with AI data centers full of expensive hardware that no one can afford time on anymore and they'll write it off as a quarterly loss.

And none of that server ram will be of any use to the consumer market.

tl;dr: We're fucked for years to come.

>>107316873
I also wanted DP 2.1 and they really make you pay for that. If you do end up biting the bullet, make sure to order a VESA certified 2m cable as well unless you keep your case right next to your monitor.

>>107317447
it is a bubble because it expects the tech to be far more valuable and hard to replicate than it is, the chinks will create similar level AIs and release them open source and that will burst the bubble because even if the technology is useful, it's not valuable/profitable at the level the capex demands it to be

This thread is worthless. Thanks! - HH

Can't they buy all the tulips in the world instead?

Is 24 inch too small for 1440p? I dont want a bigger monitor but im wondering if ill even notice a significant increase in sharpness at that size.

>>107317188
It makes you spazz out a lot more but you're actually doing a lot less. At least for someone used to a highly cerebral game like Dota, that's what Deadlock ends up being.
Can still be fun, of course, and I think they're aiming to put in some neat graphics tech in it.

sometimes I browse /v/ and it's amazing how shit their pcs are they are just now realizing that 16GB ram is not enough and are going apeshit over how much 32gb costs while /g/ is seething over how much 64/96gb costs lol

i get who is buying these 8gb cards now

how is ai shit even legal anyway, its literally stealing shit 24/7

>>107317487
You will definitely notice the sharpness. However I will say that once you go from 24 to 27, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it.

>>107317503
It's not. It's copyright infringement on a scale never seen before.

>>107317501
another thing: you might be able to neurally compress stuff meant to go into VRAM, but the same trick will not work with RAM

>>107317501
>i get who is buying these 8gb cards now
yeah the average consumer. congrats on realizing you're an enthusiast who engages only with other enthusiasts

>>107317462
>darn we didn't become as big as Apple thanks to AI time to pack it up boys, cancel our subscription, let's just dismantle our new more cost effective workflows, we're just gonna go back to overpaying for human labor for tasks that can be done by a computer
yeahhh uhh probably not gonna happen

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I'm considering getting this case for a high end AMD cpu and 5000 series gpu. According to reviews it's pretty good, but I was wondering about the dust filtering. It appears there's a removable dust filter on the top and bottom but no mention of a removable frontal dust filter.

From the pictures it appears there's a mesh on the front of some kind, just not removable. Is this case decent enough at filtering dust from the front? Is that just fine if I vacuum the front from time to time?

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you do not need 64GB ram

>>107317501
I think the problem with /v/ is that it's... Not very... Uhhh...
Western, I guess?

The kind of people who care about the current generation of computer hardware are generally not people in poorer countries.

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>>107317551
Yes, I need more than 64GB ram

>>107317501
most of these retards are here anyway
like win11 home tier, with auto drivers updates, 2500k with a 5090 or a 9950x3d with a 3.5gb 970, complaining about shit breaking and what not

>>107317515
bigger is better and a 27 is not that much wider than a 24

I am at 1080p with a 32 inches monitor because I had a weak gpu, you guys would freak out if you saw it, but in really it works just fine and it's great to play games

>>107317570
/v/ has cultural war threads all the time so you would imagine them to be conservative whites, but then again looking at the posting population of /pol/ and the recent twitter location data reveal, probably not.

>>107317515
I'm keeping it small for when I have to move, I can fit 24 inch monitors in a suitcase.

>>107317468
>I also wanted DP 2.1 and they really make you pay for that.
Shits at least a $200+ premium for that, so irritating

>>107316383
RAM now costs as much as my CPU. What the fuck. This is fucking bullshit.

So what happens when 2026 finally hits? Will PCs really become impossible to build?

Can't they just make more ram for everyone

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why doesnt anyone want liquid cooled gpus

>>107317847
Id buy them if they lost 70% of the price

>>107317847
At that price point people just custom loop if they want liquid cooling.

what the fuck is a 5090 AI box

First time builder, got my parts coming this week. Watched a bunch of videos. Any last minute comments/tips?

>>107317892
did you check if the mobo needs a bios update for the cpu you bought

>>107317879
open-loop can take a ton more heat off too, depending on what pump and rad you choose. The cards with a preinstalled block that you hook up yourself at least make some kind of sense, but that kind of price for "preinstalled AIO" isn't compelling.

>>107317879
External GPU

>>107317892
Make sure to photograph dragon dildos and miku figs

My motherboard has a m.2 ssd which was a surprise to me but it's pcie 3. Will a pcie 4 ssd still work on it at all? And if so, are Crucible ones ok? They're cheaper than the Samsung ones.

>>107317835
~ALL~ ram orders for 2026 are full. And, 99% of it went to AI data centers.

>>107317916
yes it will work
yes they are fine

>>107317900
Nope. I'll check now.

>>107317835
It takes time to build up capacity. The manufacturers have said that they're expanding but that will take years to make an impact.

>>107317835
I think memory prices will only recovery in Q4 2026. Basically if you need anything buy it now or wait 1+ year.

>>107317835
Somewhat impossible. Parts will become stupidly expensive, for at least 2 years. We're talking about 5000+ dollars for a midrange build that costs 1500 now - in other words, impossible if you have that budget.

>>107317919
So what will places like Microcenter be getting?

the situation in Australia for DDR5 is even worse than the USA...

>>107317953
This is not hyperbole, folks. A build I did in August for $1550 would cost $2250 today for the exact same parts. I expect it to pop over $3k in a couple months.

>>107317965
Table scraps that their suppliers buy on the spot market... which will always be over-priced. Ram doubled in price a couple weeks ago and doubled again this past week.

>>107317974
To be fair, it does cost extra to print everything upside down

>>107317994
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

For an extra bit of joy to add to this festive season, I looked on Facebook Marketplace and Craigslist for ram. All scooped up with new listings for more than the already over-priced stuff at retail outlets.

>>107317892
>>107317912
miku figs in the case add +10 FPS. dont listen to any stinky boomer nay sayers here!

>>107317900
It doesn't appear to need an update. Should I still download the latest bios update if it is a beta?

>>107317912
I don't have either, sorry.

>>107317892
don't overtighten screws, the pc is not going to run away from the case

>>107318014
>+10 FPS
Faps Per Session

>>107318016
if the cpu works then you can just update to latest non beta bios from windows using the mobo control app

>>107316383
budget of $2000 CAD, Canada obviously.
prebuilt is fine cause I can't be assed to build anymore PCs.
possible to game with consistent fps, I have a Samsung Odyssey g9 and would like to run 244hz consistently. any suggestions?
current rig doesn't cut it too much but I don't play anything demanding. minecraft, old games, and street fighter 6 which doesn't even have UW support.

>>107317892
leave the cpu socket cover on until you're ready to install it
dont drop shit on the pins

Reminder:

System requirements for Escape from Tarkov
RECOMMENDED:

OS: Windows 11
Processor: Intel Core i7-14700F or better
Memory: 64 GB RAM
Graphics: RTX 4070 or better
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 80 GB available space

>>107318104
>wiggles

>>107318104
And that doesn't even account for the 2nd system you need for all the cheating hardware and software

>>107316627
>bought everything but new gpu last black friday
>waited for 9070xt to be under msrp
>get card tomorrow
>redstone launching in 2 weeks
>will have a good card that will last until rdna5 is below msrp
waitchads just keep on winning

>>107318165
Keep waiting for more ram. It'll come down in awhile. Right, guys?

any chance 4 * dimm slot causing reduced speed being fixed with a bios update in the future with ddr5? can that be fixed through bios changes or does it require new mobo?

also, is X3D worth it for running AI models, slop or pure text based?

>>107316418
I just bought a wifi card for 15 bucks and kept Win10LTSC.

>>107317423
I'm open to trading my 2x32gb 6000 cl30-36-36 kit for a used car

>>107318209
with a bios update? unlikely
potentially with the new memory controller on zen 6

ai models are too large to make much use of the cache, you just need to maximize memory bandwidth

>>107316618
Only relevant if you can even benefit from the speed of Wi-Fi 7, which is rarely the case.

>>107318243
I'm seeing good 32gb DDR5 being $600-$800 by the end of year.

>>107316961
But 9070XT has 100% fewer Cuda cores.

>>107317105
Burn baby, burn!

Hi retard here,
a few years back I got a prebuilt to game with the boys, I'm getting a bit of fuck around money and I'd like to upgrade, but as stated before i'm retarded and reading the stats on GPUs and CPUs are just meaningless numbers to me and my eyes glaze over.

what i've got currently: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RQspyW
Budget: 800-1100 bucks
Country: US of A
Use case: Id like to be able to run Space Marine 2 comfortably, I also play GW2 (an mmo) and it loads/looks like shit and Id like to improve that experience
main questions) What would be some good CPU and GPU choices, do I need to base my GPU choice off of my CPU or are they all pretty much compatible?
secondary question) is any of my current shit salvageable? I figure the power supply depends on the final builds power requirements, but maybe the ram is saveable?

>>107317526
Looks as cheap as it gets.

>>107316383
Since ram is so expensive now, is it worth looking at a prebuilt (used or new) especially if you are looking at cheaper builds?

>>107318303
if you're desperate maybe
if not you could just not upgrade your ram for the next 1-2 years

>>107318291
I don't mind spending a bit more for a better case, but this was highly recommended on tomshardware. If you have a better case in mind i would like to hear about it.

>>107317892
Unbox everything beforehand. Have the instructions ready (on phone as well) and rebox all the crap you won't need.
A small flashlight can help.

>>107318303
If you can catch a prebuilt that was made not too recently and hasn't been "upgraded" in price, you might find a deal. Used, shop around. There's sellers that don't realize there's gold inside the PC case they're selling.

>>107318181
wait for the bubble to burst friendo

matx or atx?

>>107318307
I am building completely from scratch, there is nothing to upgrade.

>>107318316
Interesting, I will keep an eye out.

>>107317892
Btw should I download my motherboard driver utility or just do drivers individually?>>107318038
>>107318019
Thanks for the advice.

>>107318358
typically the utility will prompt an install at windows and its easiest way to dl stuff and update bios

>>107316900
5070ti can pull up to 330-350w. anyways i wouldnt trust nvidias stats after they removed the hotspot sensor.

Is KLEVV FIT V DDR5 6000MT/s 2x16GB CL28 good RAM? It is the cheapest RAM I can buy within my budget and it is still expensive as hell.

Is 8gb vram REALLY that bad for 1080p? None of the current ue5 sloppa looks appealing (unless I am coping/missing out).

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Should I wait longer?

>>107318288
none of your stuff is salvageable and with that budget, just buy a good gpu, not enough to redo the rest

and upgrading the gpu you'll also need a new psu

>>107318288
Here's a proposed list, it's best to reuse the 2x 8GB 3000MT/s memory sticks you have given the crazy pricing situation.
You could get a cheaper monitor as well, 310Hz is overkill.
This case is pretty small in terms of room for future components (315mm maximum GPU clearance), but it's good value (4 bundled fans).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XGWcWc

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>>107318312
Picrel has removable dustfilters front and bottom, can take even a thick ALF 360 AIO in top and is available with window or metal panel. Lots of space to build in. Easily removable panels. High Quality. Downside: not particularly mobile, carrying it is no fun if stuffed with heavy GPU, AIO, HDDs etc.

>>107318392
Klevv is a reliable brand. They only source SK Hynix memory chips which is great for DDR5.

>>107318392
>>107318463
always check the motherboard qvl to see if it's A-die, idk why people don't do this

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>>107318312

>>107318415
FUCK
The Amazon shipper that had free shipping to my country sold out
Now it better go down in price to make up for the extra shipping fees I'll have to pay to import it in
And the fact that I won't be able to return it if anything is wrong
Do cpus drop in price for Black Friday? I've been looking at buildapcsales and I haven't seen any CPU price decreases, only bundles. Though I do need a motherboard too

Even on that chart there is no dip in price for november. Maybe I made a big mistake and prices for cpus don't decrease. I wish someone had told me

>>107318457
>29 pounds
Yeah I can see why it's a bitch to carry.
What about the Fractal Design Meshify 2?

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"/pcbg/ anons could be here," he thought, "Come to take my RAM. They could be ANYWHERE." The glare from the street lights bathed his weathered features. "I HATE /PCBG/ ANONS," he thought. The hum of his fans reverberated along his PC, making it vibrate, loosening dust which he breathed in deeply, helping wash away his fear of seeing /pcbg/ anons after dark. "With my RAM, you can run anything you want," he said to himself, out loud.

>>107318467
P sure I ended up with sk hynix M dies 16x2 6000 cl30. how fucked am i anon, give me cope and say im okay

>>107318519
M-die is fine too
If Thaiphoon Burner can't identify them then you can always do the TRFC test.

>>107318519
it's fine, just a tiny bit worse than a-die and you're very likely not going to manually overclock it anyway, most don't

>>107318504
Get the Meshify 3 instead, but the length is a bit short (max 280 mm rad on top).
The tempered glass ones are discounted atm.
https://pcpartpicker.com/search/?q=meshify+3

>>107318303
I copped a couple of pre-inflation ram kits on the used market to prepare for future builds
Outside of that, ram is overpriced everywhere in my cunt

>>107318519
16gbit m-die is pretty good. It's almost like A-die except it doesn't do 7400mhz+ speeds as easily
You're far from fucked

>>107317029
>Guess I will see if the text issues are real or overhyped for myself
Definitely overhyped, you will probably notice at first but you'll be totally used to it after day 2 of use.

>>107317892
Consider putting your psu/other wires through the case holes before putting in the motherboard. Did a new build recently and my mobo sat so close to them that the mobo ports blocked threading through some of the power connectors

>gaymers crying 8gb VRAM is e-waste
>jensen just gave up and make AI GPU from now
>steam machine only 8gb vram
>devs will optimize around it if it sells
Thanks gabey

>>107318535
>>107318536
>>107318617
ty anons i feel better, if i can get expo to lock in 6000cl30 or close ill be happy :)

>>107318571
It does seem cheaper but I can't find many detailed reviews for it. Do you if there are any major changes between 2 and 3?

>power supply fan in my PC starts making loud noise
>get another power supply
>disassemble my PC
>1 hour
i have no idea how the fuck am i going to assemble it again.
i have no fucking idea how i managed to build it 10 years ago.

Has any AIO manufacturer tried connecting their tubes to the center of the radiator or in some way try to spread out the liquid equally before they contact the fins? A number of AIO tests seem to suggest 420s are inefficient for their size and don't offer much over a 360. And then 280s are often competitive with 360s, so could that be due to the shorter length of the device and thus more even spread of heat over the fins?

>>107318805
Better airflow with new fans, but no mesh nylon filter.
You will have to take the case out and clean out the dust every 2~3 months.
Check the case dimensions for GPU compatibility.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37p6icPPoi0
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/fractal-design-meshify-3-ambience-pro-rgb/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEXqmvj1Mls

>>107318426
>>107318448
Thanks

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>>107318805
Not that anon but I went from a Meshify C to a Meshify 3. Be aware it doesn't come with a rear fan so I had to transplant one from my old case. The front panel doesn't include any sort of filter apart from the front metal grill so dust finds its way inside very quickly. I also couldn't find a way to route my GPU power cable from underneath. Overall, I liked how easy it was to build with, despite the tight fit for everything.

>>107318571
>>107318610
Tempered glass is a scam and contributes to higher temps. Wish mine didnt have it. Discovered that mining etherum years ago. I took it off and covered the side with fine-mesh bags. All metal is best really. Maybe it won't matter to you though, but after learning about that 1st hand, I'd avoid tempered glass.

>>107318976
Or actually it was monero when it started to concern me, not ethereum

>>107318976
ive seen multiple benchmarks that test cases that include both glass and mesh side panels and the temps are rarely significantly different

>>107319015
Well it made like 5c difference on my old 3700X in my Phanteks P400 case

>>107318245
>ai models are too large to make much use of the cache, you just need to maximize memory bandwidth
for purely textual or AI training running a 70b model on a regular pc, is just stacking ram (ddr5 over ddr4) the best approach? I see a lot of people running local AI using a single 16gb 5070ti or 9070xt, is that sufficient for usable speed?

What are some good mobo brand these days?
everyone and their redditgpt said MSI Tomahawk is good
so of course they all go buy it and now they all run out of stock

>>107318904
It seems okay but I think I'll just stick with the meshify 2 because of the bigger dimensions and the nylon filter hopefully filtering out more dust.

>>107319167
MSI is pretty good and Gigabyte is decent too

Asus is still insisting on doing pants on head retarded lane sharing while Asrock is still frying chips for breakfast

>>107319167
for AM5 you have asus, MSI, asrock and gigabyte. along with some random no names. stay away from asrock. asus usually prices boards higher than MSI and gigabyte with similar/same features. you can look into the difference in bios, alot of people shit on gigabytes bios. I went with an MSI board myself.

there are also PCIE lane sharing/switching stuff to consider, different chipsets, etc. b650e, b850, x670e are the three id reccomend personally but feel free to check the difference and see if b870/e are worth it to you

it took me a whole year but my pc is finally fully tuned

>>107319226
...for now

>>107319214
I have the meshify 3 as well and put an air vent filter in the front, only minor temp increase

>>107319236
3dmark says its 100% stable

I am buying Asrock b850 pro-A wifi mobo and paired it with ryzen 7 7700

>>107319261
Are you talking about the filter that comes with the case or an additional filter you can buy to add to the case?

>>107319283
I cut this out to the size of the front panel, it's thin enough that it won't touch the fans. No problems so far, but maybe things will be different in the summer
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CRNMD4VV

>>107319298
That is a bit thick, but I did some searching on my own and it seems like there's plenty of computer dust filters online, some quite thin.

>>107319360
Nta, but yeah technically something like merv 8 isn't going to be good for case fan motors (if it's actually doing its job as a filter) due to the increased resistance. It may be fine for a good while though

>the 64gb ram kit I bought for 220-ish in late august is now over $700 on newegg
just wait for black friday bro

>>107319167
MSI MPG B850 EDGE TI ($200)
Just a warning though, Windows does not have built-in drivers for the ethernet port on this board. Otherwise it's great, not too expensive, cheapest board with a post code, good VRM, 5G ethernet, 8 layer, etc. As long as you don't mind white. If you want x870 the Aorus Elite is down to $220 right now.

should i just buy the new cpu and motherboard now and just wait for ram to go down?

>>107319494
fark it i will just wait for zen 6 x3d next year or the year after

>>107319523
That's what I've decided. Not fond of any of the current chipsets either for "future-proofing", though there are a couple of decent b850 boards

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>$300 2x16gb ddr5 CL36 RAM

>>107318975
which gigabyte is that one? I can never tell the difference with theirs

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Owatta na

>>107318516
In the 2030's there will be roaming warbands pillaging for RAM and SDD's.

>>107319572
it's truly and utterly joever

>>107319568
It's a gigabyte 5090 gaming oc

>>107319572
I'm just gonna get the Steam Cube if prices don't unfuck themselves.

why dont they just use cpus for AI, are they stupid?

Just placed an order for over a thousand dollars of various headphones and headphone accessories. I think I've gone a bit insane.

>>107319596
steam cube will be affected by this as well is my guess

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>>107319572
>>107319542
my plan to sell my single 32gb cl 36 5600 stick for $1000 may actually happen, Hoping its enough to get me either an OLED, a new cpu or maybe i'll just straight up buy a 5070 ti super or 6070

>>107319568
And if you were talking about the mobo it seems to be the x870e aorus elite.

>>107319568
5090 gaming OC and x870e aorus elite

>>107319600
i have sennheisers hd560s or whatever that i got for like $150 on amazon sales and i don't see why i would need more

>>107319603
They already implied it will be over 700, which is the cost of just ram now. If they sell it for anything under 1k they are losing money. I honestly fear we are going into a consumer technological mini dark age. Everyone under upper middle class will be completely priced out of the pc market. This will also effect phones, we might see a resurgence in dumb phones because of this.

>>107319638
I'm not actually going to spend 1k. Just ordering a handful and going to keep the one I like the most. Two of them are Sennheiser also, the HD 550 and 600. Also trying the Hifiman Edition XS.
I've never used anything but cheap gamer headphones before so I'm hoping this will open up my ears to a whole new world.

>>107319604
glossy oled gave new life to my older games, something about seeing them with the extra clarity is cool.
you don't realize how many layers of fuzziness and blurriness lcd has on it's screen coating and not having the lcd backlight glow is immediately apparent.

i just spent 700 aud on 64 gigs of ddr5. fuck my gay chungus life.

>>107319707
surely you'll make the money back using the productivity software that needs the ram

>>107319717
i use my pc purely for playing old games and shitposting, the new build will be no different.

>>107319707
not bad actually

>>107319706
Most of it is from the coating. Glossy LCDs also provide a much better picture over matte LCDs

>>107319572
It's a conspiracy (small part of a much larger conspiracy) to make consoles keep on going despite the recent turn to PC Gaymen. All of the progress has been lost. The only difference with the next generation is that Xbox is basically out of the game so it will just be PS6 and Switch 2.

>>107319542
Wow. I used to see like 320-330 euros (with tax) for 2x64GB @5600 for much of the year.

>>107319765
Does Nintendo even have the months/year of stockpile of ram chips like Sony does? If they do then I can see this conspiracy maybe being true

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apple was smart to go into having their own silicon made
not so overpriced anymore

>>107319816
More importantly, Fruit's RAM upgrades have been way overpriced for ages.

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>>107319824
>tfw lived long enough to see apple ram cheaper than off the shelf ram

>>107318415
I hope you already have DDR5 ram.

>>107319598
using CPUs for AI takes obscene amounts of RAM, you really don't want that to become the meta in the current state of the market

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>>107319834
Does this mean Apple is only breaking even on their RAM upgrades?

>>107319859
it means apple was 5 years ahead of the market (again)

>>107319044
>local AI
Do you mean image gen, or chat? If you just wanna goon to images, 16GB VRAM is good enough. Might even be enough to play with video gen.
LLMs have much different requirements; 16GB is nothing. Check >>>/g/lmg for details but you’re gonna want at least 128GB of RAM (or VRAM if you’ve got $16000 to burn) for more details.

>>107319888
>(again)
What, like with the removal of the headphone jack and included accessories e.g. dongle, charger, earphones?
Neither of those are being ahead of the market. It's just apple being apple and succeeding due to sheer brand image brainwashing the sheeple masses to COONSOOM iFRUIT GOODS, and other companies thinking they have to do the same to keep up.

why don't developers just do their jobs and optimise things better so we don't need as much memory?

>>107317056
>laughs in $330 Gigabyte

>>107319906
Devs do optimize heavily for memory, just not the devs you're thinking of. You kinda have to do it when you're working with a 0.07 USD microcontroller with just 24kb RAM and 20kb ROM, and need to make it do all kinds of stuff.

>>107319906
The devs’ job is to optimize for money thoughbeit, and people keep spending.

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>>107319902
igolem won
parts manufacturers dropped the consumer market like a bad habit at the first opportunity to do so
if (when) apple starts getting more gaymes optimized for igoy silicon it will be a fair shake between them and building a pc
you will be assimilated. resistance is futile

>>107319941
I will never buy a "computer" running an ARM chip. I will stick with x86 until the day I die.

The building guide in the OP is a fucking godsend. The manuals that come with my components are all retarded.

>>107318312
>this was highly recommended on tomshardware.
companies pay for those spots don't believe any of their Best X of Y lists for shit like cases and other junk

>>107319952
you still use hdds dont you

>>107318822
>>i have no fucking idea how i managed to build it 10 years ago.
lol
watch some videos unc don't worry it's all legos

>>107318975
Sometimes I see the Meshify 3 and think it looks so cool with the density of components but other times I think it's way too compact for an atx case. Think it should have been the compact and they made a slightly bigger proper Meshify sized one. The XL is way too big. But then again those GPU temps much be superb with the scoop and being so close to the front fans.

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>unc

ONLY 3 DAYS UNTIL BLACK FRIDAY WHO HYPE

unc got mad and went into his meme folders lmao

can i be unc too

>>107319998
I can't wait to look at the black Friday deals, see that I could have bough everything except the RAM at the same price a month ago, and cry because I waited for no reason and actively lost money on the RAM and GPU

there are currently sales right now for everything but idk if they are actually THE black friday sales or not, i don't want to be jewed out of my money if i was to buy now and then there is a further price drop in a few days.

i like black friday

>>107319998
It's named as such since you'll feel like your wife got blacked when you see 32gb kits going for $400

what about cyber monday?

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wtaf happened last week for the drastic increase

>>107320243
panic

>>107320243
Scalpers and Retailers

>>107320243
dumb people panic buying things they dont need at the highest price that they can, like the morons upgrading gpus during the cripto boom

>>107317056
WHO?
>1 year warranty at those prices
lol

>>107320258
It was the manufacturers that raised the prices, I don't think it is known what piece of information triggered it. The openai datacenter that is supposed to use 40% of worlds dram next year was already announced long ago, maybe the manufacturers didn't actually believe it was going to happen but now they do.

>>107318104
>win11
missed me with that shit

>>107319859
>Does this mean Apple is only breaking even
lol
LMFAO

>coworker ordered a Samsung 870 EVO 2TB last week
>they still haven't shipped it
how much are you willing to be they won't ship it because the prices are going up so rapidly they can make more money by HODLing it for another week or month or three and then sell it for a small fortune

>>107317526
we have said it time and time again the phanteks pro ultra is a fantastic BUDGET CASE
If you are spending 2.5k on the rest of the pc you can afford throwing an extra 50 at a better case

the best possible 64gb ddr4 kit costs as much as the best 32gb ddr5 kit, all they need to do is start remanufacturing 5800x3ds (or make a better cpu) and no one needs to upgrade until zen 7, when am5 ends, or maybe even wait for ddr6

>>107320315
So did I
It took 2 weeks for my ram to arrive
my cpu came next day
I genuinely think they are just swamped with orders right now and stock issues
unless it's an ebay seller because I've seen plenty already turn to blatant scalping

people will pay $150 extra for a 5070ti instead of a 9070xt purely for brand fidelity but they won't pay extra $40 on a better quality psu/case :shrugs:

what cases are even quality any more most are made with the thinnest metal they can get away with

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Oh you can already notice it!

>>107320344
you get more than brand fidelity out of those 150$ dont be a faggot, tell amd to make better software
Other than that you are right, i cheaped out on the psu and while it hasn't blown on my face (yet?) i do regret it

Is it worth paying extra for a "prestigious" manufacturer for the GPU? Or just buy whatever is cheapest of that model?

>>107320325
5800x3ds have half the multicore performance than the i5-13600k...

>>107320356
cheapest one that doesn't have vile reviews, its worth doing your legwork, check that it has proper coolers and is well built, there are comparisons out there

>>107320344
sorry but i like using
>rtx hdr
>dlss
>dlss ray reconstruction
>dlaa
>dldsr

amd cannot offer anything similar

>>107320357
amd is cooking up a 6800x3d with v-cache under the stack like the 9800x3d that will be on a node shrink 6nm and will clock to 5ghz all core, trust me, I work at amd, we will save pc building
>>107320350
$150 gets you 8% better RT performance and a buggy driver that needs hotfixes every other week and guaranteed performance regression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VeUnmbBMdw
>>107320365
amd is cooking all of those and they come out december 10th (rdna4 only)

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>>107316383
Any NON Americans here ??
Does price increase really bad compared to Americas ??

>>107320405
not as much, americans just love the idea of scalping things and making easy unearned money, so it's always worse there

>>107320405
Notbas bad as the Americans have it, but the prices are increasing in real time
My GPU got 50€ more expensive in the span of a day

>>107320405
Increased but not more-expensive-than-PS5 increase.... for now.

GPU stay the same. Still expensive though

>>107320405
We were already on the high prices to begin with, so no.

>>107320365
this
nvidia clears

Thank fuck i still have DDR4

Explain to me why AIfaggots need RAM for AIslops ?? I thought they only need VRAM ??

>>107320344
>brand fidelity
>actually useful features

>>107320405
our prices were already high Americans are just seething because something cheap has become relatively expensive to them for once

They can still easily afford it they are just mad the price is high

>>107320387
>$150 gets you 8% better RT performance and a buggy driver that needs hotfixes every other week and guaranteed performance regression
sorry dude i thought you were posting in good faith, my bad

RTX 5070ti Super 24gb when ? I dont think im gonna hold any longer

>>107320387
>amd is cooking
Well you see, future tense is not present tense.

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test. Shitposters must have been running rampant because of an IP range ban. Anyways, I was going to build my own PC but honestly I think I might just buy pic related. It's $1000 flat on sale. The RAM kit alone is worth like $220.

>>107320501
most likely never, if it happens at all will be a reduced production late 2026 fall/winter

>>107320508
it's almost the same price as if you'd pick the parts urself, which is better

>>107320387
amd cant do shit besides video games

>>107320508
is the card 8 or 16gb? the fact that they dont say it makes me think 8
The rest is hard to value since no brands and the 7500x3d is a hard to gauge chip cause its only available in a few select places
You do you anon, i have seen worse

>>107320508
Those parts are about 800 bucks worst case scenario and that machine is already obsolete

>>107320405
>>107320405
Prices were already high but they got at least 2x costlier over the last month. A 32gb 6000cl36 ram kit costs $400 USD now

>>107320501
It's not going to happen, they are not going to be able to sell it for 5080 prices or more.

>24gb when
When you are able to turn on Nvidia© Neural Texture Compression™ at Balanced 0.6667x compression (16 / 0.6667 = ~24) for a -5 FPS tax if used alongside DLSS4™ Super Resolution™.

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>>107320405

>>107320453
Model can offloads to ram, solution for those with low vram.

/ldg/ can break it down further i guess

>>107320501
>he doesn't know

>>107320545
Holy shit. No wonder

>>107320501
they are cancelling 16gb cards they aren't putting 3gb modules onto geforce slop it's over go buy a 5080

Q4 results are gonna be great for nvidia and amd there were a lot of buyfags this month

>>107320563
5080 is 16gb so no

>>107320521
Not even close. I'm trying to build it right now in PCpartpicker and even considering I can get the 7600X3D/mobo combo deal from Microcenter for $330, it's FAR more expensive.
>>107320530
You show me where I can build this PC for $1000
>>107320528
it's the 16GB, I just cut off the image strangely. The 7500X3D from what I can tell is just a worse binned 7600X3D which is a Microcenter exclusive.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RTM3qH
This was taken choosing the cheapest possible parts similar to the build in the prebuilt

>>107320580
Go buy a 5090 ventus

>>107320593
5090 triple the cost of 5080 so no

>>107320608
then continue your patient wait for the super series

>>107320608
3x the cost for 2x the hardware for 1.5x the performance is a great deal

my 9070 xt gets here on the black friday and I bet there will be deals on models I wanted so I'm going to be sad, but I'll prevent all that from happnening by not looking at prices anymore

>>107320624
It doesnt matter. Its out from my price range. 5090 is about the cost of used SUV car in here. RTX 5080 is the absolute maximum for me

This summer I spent 40% more on my new PC than I did on my new car. My PC was 1.4k and my car was 1k euro. Priorities.

Bake a new one my nibbas

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I've been testing the temps of the 6800XT and according to overlays like Steam and Afterburner, the average temps under load is 65 degrees. After checking the logs of HWiNFO64, the hot spot temps are very high hovering around 92-99 degrees. Should I be worried?

>>107320836
people will see this and still buy AMD's next 400W stovetop
people will defend shit like this and the 9070XT spiking to 600W and blowing up your PSU

>>107320856
That's cool anon, but that didn't address my inquiry.

>>107320858
GPU's SHOULD automatically downclock and throttle if they reach unsafe temps

>>107320870
I'm using the default fan curve and gaming performance seems consistent with no dips. Fan speed (based on noise) is minimal.

>>107320856
shitvidia literally hides the hotspot temperature so you don't see it anymore, chuddie

If theres no mid range 24gb or 32gb next year im gonna fucking Luigi someone

>>107320877
The default temperature target for most video cards is 95 degrees.
>What does this mean
It means the GPU will increase fan speed to stay under the target
>So why isn't the GPU always at that temperature
Because minimum fan speeds don't allow that
>So why don't the fans stay off until 95 C
Because that's a terrible idea

>>107320971
Bottom line? 6800XT cards, according to what I've read, can handle 100-110 degrees. Any more than that, it's fucked. Or so I've head. Sorry, Anon, I'm not fully confident.

>>107320971
>Because that's a terrible idea
nta but explain why it is a terrible idea
my cpu fan "curve" is off until almost critical temps

>>107320932
the consoomer will be competing with the AI bubble startups for the next 2 years I think, just buy your fucking gpu already, this will be a 3 year limbo with bad hardware prices, you can hope that the ai bubble will burst, I certainly do, I would love to see China make wall street/crypto bros jump off of their buildings with a new deepseek moment, but it's too uncertain to rely on that

>>107320877
if there's no dips means it's not thermal throttling, but stock curve is still too conservative

>>107321019
yes it will throttle before it blows itself up, but its also not wise to redline it all the time, other components on the board can have reduced lifetimes as well from running at high temperatures

>>107320836
have you undervolted your gpu? it does wonders for temp and performance
another thing you can do is replace the thermal paste with ptm7950 and maybe the thermal pads too, basic pc parts maintenance to make sure stuff is running the best it can

>>107321083
Will AMD Adrenaline not reset the undervolt settings after a system reboot?

>>107321091
ofc not

>>107320836
Repaste or water block. I don't know why open loops aren't more popular with modern high draw components.

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>>107321083
>>107321091
I enabled undervolt and it did so automatically for some reason.

>>107321119
manual tuning

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Is this water cooler just too big for my case and I need to buy another case, or am I missing something?

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>>107321125
I first tried the auto-undervolt and temps did improve. Still in the 90s thoughbeitdesune.

>wifi 7, hdr, and 4000/8000hz peripherals
>all tech that requires windows 11