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It's...It's beautiful.

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>>107504777
It really comes down to implementation. Subjectively, most chifi pos have this "grit" in the treble, and its a problem shared between microplanar or pure BA configs. Though it is possible to make MPT sound good, the Mysticraft Myth which I demoed today has one of the smoothest treble I've ever heard. Meanwhile the iBasso Epitome with 8 fuckings ESTs sounded like absolute dogwater.

I bought those meme GK Kuntens

>>107505866
>multiphysics simulations on iems is pretty dumb and are mostly for decorative marketing pics.
only to an extent, it seems. they can't be useless, to them because the results have to push them towards a ballpark of something. something they know works.. the results have to mean at least something to them, otherwise, you're right, it could be pure fluff. I'm skeptical.

>>107505973
I'm jealous already

>>107505986
they aren't useless, they're good for marketing
the results don't mean anything in the way they are using it, it just shows pretty graphics of stuff that relates back to the things i talked about.
stuff like airflow across the iem and in the nozzle doesn't tell them anything. if they do, i welcome you to tell us what they are used for exactly

>>107505720
Newfagzo please, we were emulating in-room speaker responses with IEMs before you, headpos show made a video about newfags like you before you, everyone knew what CSD is before you and why it's useless. You brought it up solely because you thought you can't EQ it.

>>107506052
>the results don't mean anything in the way they are using it.
you're selling the very people that produce the very product that gives you an emotional attachment to it, extremely short. if it was all FR, show me 1 target anybody has eq'd to, and stated, "wow the stereo image is much wider/taller now, wow instruments are more separated and easily discernible. wow."
that shit would have been insanely democratized at this point, with everybody eq'ing to the "techs" target, opening up their pos to imaging bliss, and NO pos selling above $20.
as cheap as you can get with a pos, tuning can only take it so far, and we know this.
where's the edc pro with the right eq beating a stock anything >$50 in technicalities?
these magical eq settings simply don't exist. going neutral only pushes you closer to the audio mix and even then, your pos has to reproduce the imaging, accurately, based on its quality/implementation.

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>>107505653
2 genders

>>107506236
>Newfagzo
you can't say "newfag" or "IEM" in the same post and expect to be taken fucking seriously.
a dickwad anon showed a perfectly smooth csd plot supposedly made after eqing and they actually thought that was the approach. holy shit what a grift

>>107506317
>he still thinks graph = FR
Embarrassing.

>>107506347
>newfagzo thinks that CSD was smoothed
Loool, you haven't launched REW once in your entire life.

>>107506317
you simply have no idea the dynamics that happen between marketing and engineering in any field, let alone a consumer product company that has to translate objectivity to subjectivity
if you want to keep the discussion purely on the engineering side of things, do not start to talk about what people are hearing. we were discussing the use of multiphysics analysis and its consequences in quantifiable results

Should I buy the Shanling ME600? I really like the design of it.

>>107506381
One anon loves it to death, but it sounded so mediocre when I demo'd them. Feels great in the hand tho

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this befuddles the mind of illiterates

>>107506416
I don't see any words

>>107506347
Said the anon that posted LLM slop and was baffled nobody took him seriously. Incomprehensible level of newfaggotry and inability to read the room, facebook's strongest veteran.

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>>107506416
how do you interpret this

>>107506466
dry erase

>>107506466
origin is shit so i agree

Are these SteelSeries Arctis GameBuds the only 2.4GHz wireless earbuds on the market? I'm looking for one, but the "gamer" branding is a huge red flag for me

>that graph can't be real because it's... smooth!
A new low for chatgpt.

chatgpt won

>>107506378
moving the goalposts again. if the product is a speaker, then the engineering is about what people hear. lol

>>107506688
Utterly clueless.

>>107506688
that is again false, people hear both engineering and marketing. not only that, hearing is very subjective and volatile, which is why you don't engineer for public opinion. if you want to engineer for subjectivity, you have to turn this subjectivity into objective data and metrics

>>107506770
perhaps you hear marketing

>>107506784
I only hear faceplates. everything else is made up.

>>107506807
you will never fuck a fox

>>107505869
Can someone point me towards a cheap low power bluetooth mp3 player without wifi for hiking? Trying to de tech by ditching the phone while /out/.

>>107506490
Steelseries is a trash brand, low quality products branded as "gamer" so they can upsell

>>107506770
>hearing is very subjective and volatile
anon.. you just described the entire point of harman research. since hearing and subjectivity matters, then the engineering HAS to account for our perception.
>simulations don’t matter
>FR is everything
>don’t talk about imaging or staging
you're contradicting yourself today, again. you can’t say ‘hearing is subjective so don’t talk about it’ and ‘engineers turn subjectivity into objective data.’ those statements cancel each other out.

>>107506811
foxes are fair game in some countries.
for hunting, I mean. apparently they're invasive.

>>107506870
yes i described the point of the harman research, what does that have to do with anything we discussed?
simulations are only useful if their results are useful. airflow simulations are not useful because the results don't reveal anything important. better to look important factors like fr, thd, sensitivity, impedance.
and no, those statements do not cancel each other out. turning subjectivity into objective data means that you know what to account for in terms of engineering topics for the appropriate subjective feedback. for subjective enjoyment, we know fr is far and away the most important metric. we know that subjective enjoyment is not related to distortion.
staging and imaging are useless because they are not linked, in a quantifiable manner, to any objective metric. until then, these subjective descriptors are just that, subjective and volatile.

>>107506811
he actually might, a lot of furries are also animal abusers

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>/iemg/ literally every fucking thread

>>107507009
arguing on the internet is probably the most important thing for increasing IQ among no-Indian children there is

>>107506814
>Trying to de tech
Stop trying to drown out the sounds of nature.

Really thinking about that mystery box....

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>>107507009
Hush

>>107507169
I could have won, I know I could have.

>>107507169
>mystery box
>look inside
>mystery

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>>107506811
One day.

>>107507223
>>107507242
its 9$ but i have no use for the tips (80%) really...

>>107505836
i can't, treble hurty ears :((

chinkshit eqtards won

>>107507471
it's not 80% dude. everyone's gonna get tips save for zhang's friend who's gonna shill it to hell

>>107507903
Chang would never put up fake odds...

eq guide lost

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I have something unique and a question

7Hz x Crinacle: Divine
on a JIEZI
connected to a bigscreen beyond 2

Question: Does anyone know where I can get some ultra-short cables, 2pin, the default ones are way too fucking long for this purpose.

>noooo I haet bass scoop at 100hz
>doesn't know that that's an artifact of the crossover being taken advantage of and the rest of the tuning is impossible without it
heh

>>107508194
>bigscreen beyond 2
thats some cyberpunk looking shit

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>tfw the bass is 1dB boosted

Hi, retarded schizo here.
I currently use some Google Pixel Bud Pro 2s because of the ANC (this shit has changed my life) and their integration with my Pixel 9a and Pixel Watch 3. The hurt the fuck out of my ears and randomly fall out. Is there something with a similar feature set (yes I use the Gemini integration too) that won't hurt the fuck out of my ears and don't randomly fall out of my ears? I need something to use when in bed as I'm a sex depraved weirdo that needs ASMR to go to bed at night.

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will this be enough to power my PR2s? I intend to feed my RU7 into it thanks
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNru5rX
full on 200hz +1488dB pregain -1488dB

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It took 16 hours but I think I finally figured out a setup to copy my music to my iphone properly.
Waiting for the whole thing to encode now.

>>107508685
just use itunes dawg

>>107508194
I've DIY'd some shorter cables, you just need to buy the 2 pin connectors from Aliexpress and you can make it any length you want. It'll cost maybe $15 for the parts and $60 for the tools if you don't already have them. You need a soldering iron, solder (I prefer cardas quad eutectic for the techs), wire strippers and flux.

>>107508556
We're there brother. The face cushion is 3d printed too.
>>107508729
Ugh that's literally my backup plan, I reached out to some vendors on ali asking if they'll cut it short for me for right now. I'm probably going to do a dogshit solder job and make it all crinkly.

>>107508629
Probably the current apple earpods, they have the best anc and the most comfort, sound quality is another story but you didn't say those two words.

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>>107508764
It might be easier to snip an existing cable and solder a new plug. I've reterminated Gate cables and it took a few minutes.

>>107509008
What did you fill it with, resin, glue?

>>107508725
Literally what I did
itunes doesn't read flac though and is very inflexible in the way it handles tags, so I had to use musicbee to create a second copy of my library before importing into itunes

>>107509029
Nothing, just heatshrink.

>>107509082
Fuck me, alright here I go ordering again.

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Just got these things for like $100. What DAC does /iemg/ recommend? I don't have any currently.

>>107506997
psychoacoustics says otherwise.

>own headpos
>have the most solid preference target
>can't eq most headpos
>own pos
>can eq most flaws
>no universal preference target
welp
back to speakers

>>107510686
haha no bro you almost figured out your freakish mutant diffuse field don't give up haha.

>>107510686
yeah back to room modes

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>>107510686
no need, eq to endgame speaker sound right here for free

>>107508642
also should I opamp roll to OPA2134

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i kinda wanna get the kz sonata now

norabros and folasistas, how's the isolation?

Is the PEQdB studio page down for anyone? It's been a couple of days since I checked and It still won't load for me.

>>107509297
https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650246696-cayin-ru7/

>>107511727
who gives a shit

>>107511755
can't really do better than DS2. don't fall for overpriced crap.

>>107511727
saar...

>>107508642
Even apple dongle is enough if you aren't deaf.

>>107512194
>apple dongle is enough
not for PR2. at all.

>>107512230
Deaf

>>107512269
you don't have a PR2.

>>107512230
very deaf

>>107512194
>>107512269
>>107512370
you don't get it. apple dongle doesn't give it the juice it needs. thanks for confirming you never heard it

>>107512404
extremely deaf

>>107512404
Apple dongle is VERY LOUD with regular IEMs. Pr2, which is 10db less sensitive, will be just loud. And you don't want to listen loud.

>>107512404
we literally have its specs and can calculate EXACTLY how much juice it needs

>>107512491
PR2 is a planar. you're just surmising because you actually never touched one and think you have insight to offer, for some reason. you're wrong. literally every person that's at least tried one will tell you.

>>107512568
so you never heard a PR2. I accept your concession.

>>107512595
I'm starting to think you've never heard one yourself
>>107512586
it doesn't matter if it's a planar or not dumb fuck. unless they lie about specs everything can be calculated. there's no magic going on here. there's only one thing additional power can go to and it's volume.

>>107512747
Of course he never heard it, he's deaf.

>>107512586
fyi iem planars are just flat dds

>>107510686
Headpos doesn't have a solid target, headpos users just have low standards.

>>107512747
>everything can be calculated
you just don't get it because you never had to use anything more than an apple dongle

>>107513048
I don't even have an apple dongle...
math doesn't care who used what. IEM planars do not have very low efficiency or high impedance to warrant needing additional power. where the fuck does it go to if not volume levels? how? if you can't answer these questions then shut the fuck up and stop spouting delusional drivel.

>>107513087
without knowing what the pos sounds like on both an apple dongle and more legit dac, you embarrassing yourself. pr2 on a ds2 is heaven compared to apple dongle.
thanks for admitting again, you're clueless

>>107513164
but pr2 sounds like shit no matter what you connect it to

>>107513164
I literally don't care what it sounds like. You are claiming it somehow needs more power than its specs would suggest. So I'm asking where the power is going to and due to which process it does it. You fail to answer and just keep reiterating some delusional rhetoric...
If PR2 really needed more power it would have different efficiency and impendence. Why is it hard for you to understand?
>you're clueless
says the person who can't explain where the power going to
you are simply delusional. if there's a difference between ds2 and apple dongle then it's not due to pr2 needing more power.

at this point if Deafzo was banned and his nigh-worthless scientistic posts removed, we'd have a dead general with almost no posts
it's a sad, sad shape /iemg/ is in

>>107513211
you wouldn't know.
>>107513215
nothing you said could possibly be corroborrated by anyone's personal experience with the pos. experience you never had to begin with. no clue why you're dying on this hill, retard.

>>107513215
>I literally don't care what it sounds like
so you don't know what you're saying. got it.
>it somehow needs more power than its specs would suggest.
exactly what I, and every single person who has tried it, knows. you don't.
>where's the power going
to the pos.
> if there's a difference between ds2 and apple dongle then it's not due to pr2 needing more power.
you literally have zero experience with low-impedance/sensitivity planars+decent dongles.
every paragraph you shit up proves it. and I'm delusional..........

>fiction
KZ invented a driver unlike any other driver on the planet that converts power into magic.
>reality
You're deaf and if you measured the SPL you're listening at everyone would laugh at you.

>>107513416
how the fuck does experience matter when pos has set specs that are public and we know how it works??? what are you fucking retarded or uneducated?
If you want to prove it so much feel free to provide FR measurements for apple dongle vs ds2 (or anything else really). If pr2 sounds really changes from "lack of power" FR will change too. It's the easiest thing but guess what? It's not happening cause it's not real.
>>107513447
>so you don't know what you're saying. got it.
got it? you didn't get a single thing lmao. delulu retard
>exactly what I, and every single person who has tried it, knows. you don't.
Really? Are these "persons" in the room with us?
>to the pos.
that's not an answer. By what process is more power not making it louder? What is it doing then?
>you literally have zero experience with low-impedance/sensitivity planars+decent dongles.
meaningless phrases again. what the fuck does "experience" have to do with anything? you are only proving that you are both deaf and delusional.
Guess what? If you are listening to pr2 with same SPL then both apple dongle and ds2 are sending the EXACT SAME power to it. It's simply just how it works. If you think it doesn't feel free to explain exactly how it works and why planars are breaking laws of physics in your delusional mind.
>and I'm delusional.......
clearly you are

PR2 won.

itt overaggressive nerds who never did DIY and don't know how insensitive you can set up planars. it's usually the mentally retarded "science" fans who take papers, charts and labels at face value going nuclear and sperging out

>>107515818
I accept your concession

>audiophools listening with their eyes
>graphtards listening via manufacturer marketing and graphs
A tale as old as time.

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How did KZ make a model that consistently buckbreaks iemg?

>>107515818
>how insensitive you can set up planars
You could also make an extremely insensitive DD or BA or whatever, what does that have to do with anything?

>Budget
$110 max
>Intended use
listening to music on an old walkman
>Frequency response preference and music examples
lo-fi, rock, stuff like panchiko
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
i've never used iems before

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>>107505869
I like my Chu II but the weird shape means they dont fit properly in my az09 bluetooth adapter. I still use them wired but would like something for wireless.
Any iems that are a slight upgrade over them?

>>107515818
are you retarded? so we should not take sensitivity and impedance labels at face value?
what exactly are you saying?

>>107515871
nobody gives a fuck about this piece of trash get real

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1-bit DSD
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>>107515977
He's saying KZ doesn't know how to measure which makes sense given their track record with everything. They could have meaured it at 3kHz instead of 1 for all we know.

>>107515947
VX Pro+

>>107516197
lol
sadly nobody cares about it enough to measure its sensitivity independently.

>>107515958
Probably Kunten, Gate, Bunny, Rue, VX Pro+, etc

itt autists who can't still comprehend chinks would lie to them to make money. classic

source: trust me bro

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>>107516156
Not exactly a cable guy but that OTG is super pretty, though using a dongle on a dedicated player is kinda cringe. I'm guessing you had that dap before you knew you liked Cayin's sound signature?

>>107516646
android devices are pretty interchangeable and there's lots of fancy dongle amps/dacs out there to collect, I wouldn't recommend spending more than $50 on a pmp because that's the price of a used phone on ebay

>>107513594
>provide FR measurements for apple dongle vs ds2.
:) thanks, anon, you revealed your own ignorance, again. you see how a whole 8 hours later, still nobody bothered to reply to you?even if I did lay it all out for you, you still wouldn't be able to accept it. definition of dogma.
>>107514661
it apparently does in a real A/B situation.
>>107515871
their m.o. is to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.
>>107515987
you never seen or heard one in your life
>>107516156
>DSD
>looks inside
>PCM

what is so special about kz planar

>>107516715
too long; didn't read

>>107516730
extremely low quality;reported

>>107516728
it buckbreaks some posters here who never DIY'd speakers or headpos before. like >>107513391 said, you only have to mention PR2 to keep this general alive. the graphtard mind cannot comprehend the low sensitivity planar or sex apparently b/c they post on onahole general and post "I never had sex" here

>>107516755
>low sensitivity
you keep repeating that... but it's a specific number... not a jail free card...

>>107516197
>>107516237
FWIW, Amir measured two KZ IEMs and his measured sensitivity and impedance numbers agree well enough with the numbers in KZ's specsheet.
And while I don't trust KZ, I don't think they have much incentive to lie here, because which buyer cares that much about sensitivity and impedance numbers?

>>107516755
Headpos law.

>>107516755
nta, but I have PRX as well as PR2. PR2 beats it overall. I wish PRX was better than it is...they put too much emphasis on aesthetically pleasing us, but made no real adjustment to sound other than bloated bass and less treble.

>>107516788
>And while I don't trust KZ, I don't think they have much incentive to lie here
good point. they can't even make a mistake without people immediately turning it into a bullshit lie, like the CRN situation. there were no "fake BAs". they just were wired wrong

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More PBTHAL vinyl rips for your portable R2R and tube amp. pic is a $260 setup btw
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>>107516997
is that an aliexpress tube amp?

>>107517067
yea, im getting mine before xmas it seems >>107508642

>>107516809
grats for passing the PR2 iq test

>>107517120
let us know how it works out for you after checking out all the options

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>>107517231
if there's anything better for $100 I'll probably buy it too. pic unrelated

>>107517453
what would better mean to you? if you're already planning to upgrade, what are you actually needing?

>>107517669
portable, high output

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>>107515958
I'd just get a pair of scissors and clip the corner desu

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Thoughts?

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>>107517870
obsoleted by $30 ebay phone

>>107517884
>obsoleted by $30 ebay phone
How so?

>>107517870
i have walkman nw150 with the custom firmware to make it sound like that its pretty good

>>107517896
daps are recycled e-waste from shenzhen dumpster phones, some even still have the camera. then they slap a $200+ price tag on. might as well dumpster dive and save some money

>>107517896
Very simple, anything I can afford obsoletes everything I can't afford.

>>107517926
as someone that owned a shenzhen dumpster phone i can say with certainty that the dac/amp is not nearly that level of quality

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>>107517930
this but unironically

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>>107517943
in other words soldered-on usb dongle yawn

>>107517960
ya thats why ur phone doesnt replace anything but a 8 dollar usb dac u could have hooked up to ur actual phone

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coinzo lost

>>107517946
that was never proof that price is inverse to quality, but some cheaper pos, more often than not, measure cleaner because distortion is only one technical metric. to get there they sacrifice low thd for other goals, like tuning. compare to the order in which pos are listen in your pic related to the ranking list(s) that include those pos, and are ranked on different criteria. I suspect they won't align the same way

>>107518008
I'm blinded by starline tips

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>>107518008
that's entirely KZslop and the two IEMs on the right costs more than my entire haul but i'll give them credit for being a dawn chad and having only one pair of castor

>>107518008
>compare to the order in which pos are listed***

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>>107518019
tuning is free just move a bar

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>>107518008
>>107518038

>>107517870
none
i'm not a sentient being

>>107518105
nice boxes sis

mental collector consumerist illness

mentally imagining someone with a garage fully stacked with iem boxes and what not

"ah I remeber this box... I bought it 20 years ago... feels good man..."

stop it

>>107518006
we both carry 2 phones, im just not in denial about it

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>>107518160
thanks you too

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AHH OHHHHHHHH FUCK IM CONSOOOOOMING HELP ME NIGGERMAN IM OUT OF COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOINS

>>107518247
consumer pls tell me your favorite foam buds, yes foam not silicon not latex not reddit comply foams either.

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my dap, it has a 4K screen with the lineageos 4K custom rom

>>107518258
all I have is the 2 pairs that came with my PR2. it's just like earplugs. they're still 90% intact, im willing to buy a 10 pack of foams

>>107518295
>im willing to buy a 10 pack of foams
in that case, get actual aftermarket foam tips as opposed to kz.

>>107518195
How come my tangpoo box was black

>>107518272
>no tubes
>no silver cabling
>no r2r
ngmi

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The perceptible “second strike” or micro-echo for cymbals with EST/electret tweeters arises from time-domain behavior of the EST element and its supporting circuitry/acoustics: the EST’s transient impulse response (including resonant ringing, transformer/step-up dynamics, and group-delay mismatch vs the mid/low drivers) produces a small, high-frequency energy burst that follows the initial attack and is heard as a faint second hit or prolonged shimmer. This is intrinsic to how those small electrostatic/electret diaphragms + step-up systems behave.

>>107518657
That's what listening with your eyes looks like.

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>>107517838
oh. of the bt connector?
Ill give it a look over then, thought the combo too specific.
Did slip some Bunnies into my randomshit aliexpress order, if anyone has had both how would you compare to Chu II?

I heard anime Iems increase sound quality up to 50%

My aged LG V20 is finally giving up the ghost, any recommendations for a DAP that has a good amount of SE power and is not too crazily priced?

>>107518795
Can confirm.

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>>107518795
Fox IEMs increase it by at least 50%.

>>107519100
>troon colors
what did xe mean by this

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>>107518657
1DD doesn't have this problem.

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Good products never get 50%+ discounts.

>>107517838
does 0.75mm plug safely fit the 0.78mm socket?

>>107518473
that's the box for the white ones I guess

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>>107518577
aside from 4K, I have resistor network (ru7), will have >>107508642 and can't afford silver cables
total cost of endgame: $360 and walk away

in daps $360 gets you middle end lmao

>>107519305
0.75mm doesn't work in 0.78mm
0.78mm works in 0.75mm
0.78mm doesn't always work in 0.78mm
hope this helps

>>107519387
>$360 on source for a $0 zogchow pos
make it make sense

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>>107519568
100dB is not loud enough anymore.

>>107519649
oh you are deaf, makes a lot of sense actually

>>107519568
>>107519668
im just a smart buyer is all

>>107519764
smart buyer but dumb listener... whats the point in buying anything when you are deaf

>>107519776
fine i'll buy the silver cables jeez

>>107519787
silver doesn't cure deafness

>>107519794
then why did you recomend silver cables nigger

>>107519798
i didnt know you were deaf

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>I deliberately entered a thread full of things that I do not like and now I am mad how could this be happening to me.
If you don't like R2R and tubes then maybe you shouldn't have come into the R2R and tubes thread.

>>107519844
can't you just buy a gold plated cable and get the same effect?

>>107519858
my moondrop chu2 deserves the best amp

>>107519844
Should've bought a BA pos or a KZ planar if you're shitmaxxing.

>>107519888
Nah I'm not into high THD. Chu2 won

>>107519908
>I'm not into high THD
Upgrade your amp and DAC to apple dongle then.

Is kunten the best budget pos around atm or just memes?

>>107518819
hiby r1 is $70

>>107519972
it costs the same as edc pro and dawn buy one

>>107519387
>$360 and walk away
cope. if you knew what you were doing, you would do those PR2s justice and USE THE RIGHT CABLE.
>>107519972
for now it's a must buy

>>107519212
considering your pic related, I was expecting you to just tell him to eq it out..

sometimes I remember seeaudio and I feel sad for them

>>107520280
i already paid more for the cable than for the iem. kbear st12 cost me almost 10 dollars

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>>107519953
>he has an apple dongle

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>>107518819
here you go lil bro https://www.ebay.com/itm/186570184978

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>>107518819
and https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMDkIvf

$145 is all you need for endgame ie: $15 ebay phone plus $130 shanling up6 plug in a $0 PR2 and you're golden

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for more sound advice just consult picrel it served me well and I live by it and it will aid you through hard times

ill post vinyl rips and dsd files in a sec

>>107520627
for $145 you can afford an actual gold iem though

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/iemg/ Buy Tutorial

Shitbuds
$2 Dawn 1DD
$3 EDC Pro 1DD
$4 Rue 1DD
$4 Luki 1DD+1subwoofer
$5 Konoka 1DD+1BA+1subwoofer
$5 Kunten 1DD
$6 ED9 Pro 1DD
$7 Castor 2DD
$7 Krila 1DD+1BA
$8 Venus 1DD
$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD
$11 TRN Lucky Bag (5 iems)
$12 Tangzu Waner
$12 Rosefinch 1DD
$12 GATe 1DD
$13 Chu II 1DD
$14 Bunny 1DD
$14 PR2 1planar
$15 Luna 1planar
$18 Decet 5DD
$20 LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA
$20 ST7 2DD+5BA
$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA

Amps
$5 Applel Dongle
$15 Black Pearl
$100 Adv Gad
$130 UP6
$150 TA-66
$175 RU7

DAPs
$10 cracked screen S3
$15 unknown carrier S4
$20 linux chinkheld R36
$25 aliexpress tablet with otg

>>107520930
>daps
refurbished LG V20 (sd slot, removable battery)

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this is a lie, isnt it?

>>107521195
It's 1 on each side, some sellers post the grand total and you gotta look further

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1bit
https://files.catbox.moe/laedyk.wv
https://files.catbox.moe/bka0ds.wv
https://files.catbox.moe/x9xu8a.wv
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/u0z0unmb.wv
https://files.catbox.moe/mytuqp.wv
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/vni5rsv8.wv
https://files.catbox.moe/si3ph6.wv

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not gonna lie, i like the HE shell aesthetics. it's cringekino

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Remember to nerf treble before the chinks make you deaf.

what's the closest aliexpress tips to xelastecs in material? doesnt need to be thermally reactive, but similar softness and elasticity.

>>107521431
>pointless audiophoolery
kys

/iemg/ endgame candidates
$25 az09 + chu2 >>107517838
$340 iphone + ru7 + ta-66 + chu2 >>107519844
$360 xzp + ru7 + adv gad + pr2 >>107519387
$270 pc + k11r2r + ta-66 + vx pro+ >>107410985
$25 r36mini + kunten >>107499524
$145 ebay phone + up6 + pr2 >>107520627
$270 xzp + ru6 + vx pro+ >>107290820

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>>107521634
Just say you hate techs.

>>107521644
quite possibly the only setups in the world shittier than fox iem

i can buy 50 pos for the price of one headpos that's actually worth getting

>>107522509
I bought 40 for the same price I got my HD 700 ($120)

>>107522031
Fox IEM is endgame. Every other setup is worse.

>>107516628
https://www.discogs.com/master/17912-Primus-Sailing-The-Seas-Of-Cheese

thanks man

>>107522509
>>107522853
>headpos
>worth getting

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>>107516628
>BLACKICE
what did they mean by this?

>>107518105
how are the kz-edx ultra?

>>107521195
nah, LF3 pro is legit. best bass cannon in the business.

>>107521483
As always, Wangzu's sense of aesthetics is the best.

>>107521195
unironically this might be a good budget option to EQ to M5E

Why is Kiwi Ears Singolo so cheap? Its price seems to have dropped drastically since its release.

>>107524658
>>107519285

>>107524664
Well, almost. The OG Letshuoer S12 got much cheaper that it was at first. Not a bad IEM, although there was a missing link between it and its initial price tag:
One damping foam in the nozzle. Yeah, it's that simple.

>>107524658
singolo is goated if it fits you well. but it doesn't fit well most people so everybody fucking hates it lol

Imagine paying thousands for iems, thousands for DACs and media players and then listening to garbage weeb "music" from pedo cartoons

>>107525378
We only listen to real music
https://youtu.be/DLaFdEMnyKE

I bought KZ Dawn for about 3,70$ a few days ago (still hasn't arrived), but I can get GK Kunten for about 9$. Is Kunten really that good or should I just stick to Dawn?

>>107525378
more like tens and hundreds and pedo cartoons make my pp hard

Need a definite techs guide. What to buy from poorfag to richfag, how to set it up, how to EQ, what to listen to. As autistic as possible.

>>107525703
not enough microdetails, soundstage, imaging, note weight and impulse response
we need more TECHS:
https://youtu.be/9mZ63qqDXqE

>>107526147
buy kunten for $3, move bars

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>>107526147

>>107526408
>kilobuck IEMs
>high WAF
only as long as she doesn't know about the price, unless you're rich

>>107509297
now that is the goat for single dds
how did you get it for $100

>>107526477
if you're rich you wouldn't be married to begin wirh

>>107526147
a poorfag would buy $100 multidriver pos then brag about having endgame, a richfag would buy some $5 shitbuds for free or whatever's the cheapest at walmart

>>107525378
https://files.catbox.moe/gs99zs.flac

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Any IEMs with MEME technology?

>>107527209
every pos runs on memes

>>107525829
>KZ Dawn
nope
>GK Kunten
why haven't you ordered this already?????

>>107526147
Techs are USD.

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Techs are Transient Fidelity

>>107528301
>slider response
lmao it's all subjective bs in the end

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>>107525378
literally me

>>107528168
>why haven't you ordered this already?????
Coin discounts didn't kick in until after I bought the Dawn. But I guess I could buy it now and return the Dawn (or keep it, it's just 4$ lol)

>>107528316
>psychoacoustics is a real illusion
well duh

>>107519649
Why do men hearing decline faster...
I swear healthwise men get a shitty deal

>>107528494
>I guess I could buy it now
you could, but on principle alone, it should be on it's way to you already

>>107527021
you're going to burn in hell

https://youtu.be/c-Q5r3THR3M
remember that the time-domain is uncertain

bros, should i get an acoustune hs1300ss or a kz sonata

>>107528657
sonata.

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>>107528642
Jesse, we have to EQ.

>>107528642
it's certain when my dac is nos and im upsampling in software

>>107528614
still sounds better than gay christmas music

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>>107528212

>>107529065
It's certain you're shitting on the bits, saar.

>>107528526
flu shots. turns out aluminum and mercury recirculating through tissue and the bloodstream degrades every organ

>>107529104
cope. 44.1KHz benefits from upsampling. you don't even own NOS

>>107529079
no it doesn't

>>107529125
Streets benefit from using toilets.

[angry poorfag noises]

>>107529133
then you're gay. anything is more christian than mall christmas music

>>107529079
why not both?
https://files.catbox.moe/we7itj.flac

I wish I could marry techs

>>107529162
sure, if you ask your priest, he will for sure be ok with your pedophilia, because he diddles little boys too. doesn't mean, you're not a disgusting creep

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>>107529065
>>107529125
Oh, you're one of those retards that thinks impulses are locked to the grid of samples. Let me reiterate: the only purpose of DSD and oversampling is to reduce the price of the DAC.

>>107529125
>look, my DAC can DISABLE a feature

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>>107528679
done. out of coins and no good coupons though so paid full price. fml

>>107525378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa8dKd4o9ec

>>107528642
Fact check: time domain is certain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle#Signal_processing
Only simultaneous time and frequency measurement is uncertain. This only matters for spectrograms.

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>>107529125
>benefits from upsampling
what are they? because you're not getting any extra detail or information that isn't already in the audio.
captcha says so

>>107529371
NTA but doesn't it mask artifacts at higher rates?

>>107529392
Artifacts of what.

>>107529405
Bad source

>>107529411
It can only help with a bad reconstruction filter. Noise and distortion stay the same. And why bother fixing a bad source anyway? Didn't you specifically waste over $10 on a DAC to get more artifacts?

>>107529392
this >>107529411
software sampling is for when your dac is shit. there aren't any audible benefits really because we're past the point of needing any of that

>>107529345
>xhe doesn't know 13yo kids can edit wikipedia

>>107529492
shit dacs oversample, you can't always override it on a non-bitperfect dac

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fug I hope I get this next week, I have 2 other packages held up

>>107529371
I don't know for Delta Sigma, but for Dac chips that don't already oversample (Like those old philips multibit dacs) that have a measureable treble droop can have their Frequency Response 'improved' with upsampling (but kinda defeats the whole purpose of Nos dacs).

>>107529749
does this have better techs than kunten

>>107529759
the entire purpose of nos dacs is upsampling without low-end smegmadelta

>>107529759
Those philips DACs still had oversampling. Because good reconstruction filters are too expensive. 16 bit is also too expensive, it was 14 bits.

>>107529772
I was gonna mention Kunten, I'll compare the two. tfw ordered both after swearing off KZ iems

>>107529736
exactly. if my DAC already oversamples and I can't override it, software upsampling does nothing and my DAC is always doing it's own filtering anyways. it's only audible if the DAC sucks

>>107529775
Smegmadelta is the number of bits. Oversampling is completely orthogonal to it. Your DAC is smegmadelta.

>does NOS sound "more natural"?
>does upsampling improve transients?
>do higher sample rates improve time domain?
no

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DACs explained for dumbasses. Spoiler, IR=FR.

>>107529980
here we go.
IR = FR *only in the sense that they are Fourier pairs.
That doesn’t mean impulse response equals frequency response.
It means one is the transform of the other.

And the graphic misses the real issue:
no matter how you oversample, the DAC still applies its own reconstruction filter.
External upsampling doesn’t change that unless the DAC filter is the bottleneck.
Your own diagram disproves your argument:
the DAC’s hardware low-pass is in every chain.
So your ‘IR = FR’ claim is irrelevant — the final IR/FR is determined by the DAC’s reconstruction filter, not the software upsampler.

All you’ve drawn is the fact that filters exist.

reduce your way out of that one lol

>>107530020
Chatgpt lost.

>>107530020
ask chatgpt what the reconstruction filter does to fr lmao

So anybody here have a real R2R like a denafrips? Can't believe people are falling for shitty dongles when obviously you need a desktop R2R DAC with a proper power supply to really hear the techs and holographic sound of R2R.

>>107530026
fool thinks he's ending the entire argument with clipart and not even directly replying. this general deserves better so here I am, continuing up the conversation he started.
he couldn't even argue >>107529839
so he interjects. you should be thanking me.

>>107530069
>>107530069

>>107530038
"it slightly modifies FR at very high frequencies near Nyquist, but in the audible range it is basically negligible in a competent DAC."

>>107530062
I have soekris dam1021. RU7 and K11R2R are also real r2rs. there's non-r2r nos too that you can upsample with

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>>107530020
Dumbass. The FR and IR are determined by which low pass filter is the lowest. Upsamplers can't improve IR because they can't improve FR simple as.

>>107530130
Well, they can improve FR, but only a little. EQ can do it too.

>>107530162
you don't know how to EQ in the time domain

>>107528686
/iemg/ isn't ready for the true heisenbergpill

>>107508194
What is porn like with this?

>>107505869