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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

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>>107593434
oh! gonna buy an amd gpu. sorry nvibros.
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AI slop
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Building a PC? In this economy?
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>want to buy a SeaSonic PSU
>not a single decent 1200W offering under $450
Why? For what purpose? They're missing a whole segment of the market by having mid-tier 1000W PSUs around $200 and then Plat/Titanium 1200W+ PSUs at $400+.
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>>107593434
Why does this girl not have a nose?
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>>107593479
you want a cost cut psu just to fill a segment?
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>32gb 6000c30 standard price is 500€
>could have bought same spec for 146€ rn
>still didn't buyboughted
>could have preordered (if they ever arrive) 96gb for same price
>could have bought (in stock earlier and shipping) 6000c42 128gb for 100€ less
>still didn't buy
I am truly the waitfaggiest of waiters
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>>107593509
What were you waiting for?
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>>107593469
What are you a tinkertroon? Just buy a prebuilt.
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>>107593515
to finally make the mental commitment to if I wanna build a pc or not (in the near future) (and subsequently blow way more money)
or if I should just wait
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>>107593519
https://www.microcenter.com/product/700441/powerspec-g759-gaming-pc

Like this?
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>>107593434
>Nicotroon once again
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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
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>>107593434
so i was thinking about finally buying a gpu before the market implodes again. i play on 1080p, maybe i could think about later upgrading to 1440p but that's a big maybe
anyways, my options now are
asus prime or sapphire pulse rx 9070 for 600€
windforce or ventus 2x rtx 5070 for about 600€
gygabyte radeon or asus prime or sapphire pulse rx 9070 xt for about 700-720€
what would you suggest? best bang for buck should be the 9070 (not xt) but at the same time I worry not getting nvidia dlss could fuck me over as globogayming seems to be always sucking nvidias cock, sometimes not releasing fsr like expedition 33 not releasing fsr4
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>>107593575
Crazy thing to happen. Crazier still that this is the 4th time you've posted the exact same thing. Almost like you're pushing some agenda.
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>>107593479
Same. Either way $470 for a TX-1300 (overkill for my rig) or find alternatives
Look at Corsair HX1000i shift - hwbuster charts - not bad imo
Never in top 3 but it's always top 4-5 consistently I saw
Also works well for my case but I will report back this weekend
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>>107593496
No, I want a high-quality unit in the $300-ish price range that almost every other major vendor is offering. Corsair, be quiet!, FSP, SuperFlower, etc all have very well-performing 1000W-1200W units around $300. SeaSonic is the only major one that has very mediocre representation in the $230 to $350 market segment not just in terms of unit options but in unit performance as well.
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6 fucking months
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>>107593593
NTA that you're replying to but stick to IPS cuck panels then?

I don't mind the edge glow, been used to it since 2009
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>plastic tab on the 4 pin fan header literally brakes off as I painstakingly disconnect it
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
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>>107593631
Neglect, cheap parts, time. 3 strikes, you're out.
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How long we're waiting tho?
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>>107593687
The time for waiting is over. The time to buy is now.
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so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore.
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>>107593717
But prices are high
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>>107593434
when getting ram sticks
make sure its sk.hynix right?
is there any different ?
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>>107593722
Works on my machine.
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>>107593687
HOLD THE LINE until 2030

>>107593722
the appeal of being a amdrone in these times are the fact that sure you are getting a slower product but atleast you can cope with getting the 8pins instead and being more safu
plus you end up paying 5 times as less than a 5090
it's an appealing thing, you can cope all along the way and you have a logical cope to go along with it

>>107593724
32gb 6000c30
64gb 6000c30
96gb 6000c30

or same but 6400c32 I think

should be hynixses
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>>107593687
2 years at best 5 at worst
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I fucking hate JST connectors, they are the absolute worst because they are impossible to disconnect without wrestling your nails for the better part of an hour.
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>>107593776
Work on your grip strength.
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>>107593776
Why are all your photos so fucking dirty?
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>>107593789
I haven't found my handgrenade yet if that's what you mean.
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>>107593776
As filth approaches infinity, serviceability approaches zero.
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>>107593786
>nails
>grip strength
There's not much to "grip" onto with big hands.
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>>107593810
It's just a shockingly little bit of dust for 2 years in this room, I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>107593845
> He puts the PC on the carpet/near the ground
That's why I spend an extra$1k on quiet PC parts and hardware so it can be on my desk for the next 7-10 years
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steam winter sale just kicked in
anything good idk
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>>107593869
That was going to be my plan going forward, though this room will get dusty no matter what.
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>>107593722
>issue caused by not plugging in correctly, or severely damaged cable
not my problem
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wtf is this reall???
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>>107593820
>nails
How fat are your fingers that you can't pinch it? Wtf anon
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So this is the monitor to buy
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These thermal pads certainly have a twist to them, MSI.
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>>107593955
oh.
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>>107593952
I literally did, albeit with a little too much force on the black one. Though black plastic is general brittle as far as I remember. I am just upset at how long it took to wiggle out.
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>>107593434
holy shit Radeon is HOT
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>>107593955
rehashed woled slop
I really don't see how it can be better than qdoled, especially the new 27"
but maybe the coating is THAT betterer to make up for the old slop
buy that one and a xg27ucdm in direct comparison and compare or else u will never know
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>>107593757
does brand name like JUHOR uses sk hynix??
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>>107593479
Seasonic Vertex PX-1200.
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I just can't believe this, it's actually over isn't it?
I think it's time to accept reality, take down the rainbow flag, and swap my 9070xt for a real gpu like the 5070ti
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>>107593937
Yep. Had a similar situation in a condo and brought it up top. Consider a stand alone air purifier - Daikin - but be warned you need to repair air and carbon filters every other month.

Run at night for white noise.
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>>107593869
What parts are you planning on still using in 2035, anon?
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>>107593981
I like how animeshit is so sameface these days, they literally just copy-pasted the face.
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Are nvidia game ready pilots fixed or there are still problems? (40 cards)
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>>107594053
I just use the PC until then. By the I'll be nearing 50 bro. Then another build but I won't give a shit about 80/90 series unless reasons. Don't understand how this is like "what do you mean I didn't have breakfast?" for zoomers.
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>>107593971
Drink more milk. Build up your nail strength
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>>107594061
Well, maybe because, you (don't) know, it's quite literally the same character in another henshin form.
Also fits Nvidia's and AMD's incestuous relationships sharing same family CEOs now that I think about it, kek
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>>107594075
Iunno man. I just think it's kinda loser mentality to think
>I won't ever get a well-paying job, have a decent amount of spare income, or the ability to spend any amount of money on my hobby for the next TEN YEARS so I better make it last.

Nah nigga, I'm planning to win the lottery next week and buy a 5090, the fuck you mean 10 years?
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>>107594061
Bc that image is AI you silly. Miss the garbled text?
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>>107594089
Powerball is up to $1.5 billion. You could afford 128gb of DDR5. Maybe.
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>>107594108
AI has managed to replace anime basically perfectly at this point.

I guess it kinda makes sense when the whole point of anime is to be easy to replicate and generic enough for hundreds of them to learn, so a sweatshop can pump out 4025 episodes of "ChinguShunji X TITAN/ReBirth???: My mother is my girlfriend and a demon?" or whatever the fuck they do these days.
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>>107594114
If I win the Powerball, I'm buying everyone from /pcbg/ 128GB of DDR5.
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>>107594009
the speed bin literally guarantees it's hynix chips u cant fake it
so no

>>107594075
>By the I'll be nearing 50 bro.
you just reminded me of more anxiety
it's over
life is literally over

>>107594089
>>107594114
time to euromillionmaxx it up lads
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>>107594089
I went 10 years from 2015-now bro. Then again COVID and buttcoin interrupted when I wanted to build and real life also got in the way due to hospitalization in 2023.
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>>107594108
But it's not. AI generation wasn't even a thing that this image already existed.
AI really has mindbroken a lot of people.
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It's a damn shame I can't just plug in my case fans directly into the board or use my fan hub, cause this ought to expend all 3 of my PWM case fans unless I decide to cannibalize my Hyper 212 fans. Guess I'll have to wait until Sunday or Saturday.
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>>107594140
Huh, damn no kidding. Those chinks really do got the same face.
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>>107594135
>the speed bin literally guarantees it's hynix chips u cant fake it
>so no

damn i just know this.
like 6000 cl30 can be only sk hynix?
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>>107594174
layered on layered anime titties
new fetish unlocked
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>>107594174
Yeah, it literally was pointed out earlier that it's, in fact, the exact same character with different outfits. You didn't have to waste time to layer them. Next time you'll do a layer of Tifa in her battle outfit, her Don Corneo outfit and her swimsuit just to prove it's the same character.
But I approve of layered tiddies as anon pointed out.
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Why is finding a 2 or 3 fan VGA to 4-pin splitter so hard?
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>>107594208
Is that the same character too?
It looks the same.
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Hi I want to get a 4k monitor mainly for movies. I currently have a 1440p monitor (which the 4k would replace) and a 1080p monitor which I'm currently not using but want to get one of those arm things so I can mount it on my desk. My GPU is a 1080 TI. Could I run games at a lower resolution on the 4k monitor and have them look ok? What about DVDs?
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>>107593989
Woled won't rape your eyes like qdoled
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>>107594230
>mainly for movies.
get a TV
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>even barely exceeding my 2 slots makes my gpu effectively 3 slots because my fans are blocked by the next pcie card
FUCK
it's over
might as well buy a new card or go with arctic slim fans I guess
>implying those wont be just as noisy as the 90mm wide 15mm thick torx fans
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>>107594192
apparently yes

>>107594230
yes maybe u want to use integer scaling or upscaling though but the benefits will weight up for the difference

>>107594240
allegedly* that woled will solve it, it can destroy eyes too
that's why u go higher ppi I think it will solve it
all depends though
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>>107594262
Get 2x slim 100mm
Dipshit
Noctua NF-A9x14 PWM, Premium Quiet Fan, 4-Pin (92x14mm,
On Amazon prime for me
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>>107594261
Why not a monitor? I don't think I can mount a TV.
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>>107594262
Worse comes to worst, you can always deport your smoll PCIe card with an extender cable
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Is the MSI MAG 275UPD 27" a good monitor?
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>>107594279
>buying noctua when you can get 3 slim arctic p12's for the price of one
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Uh I built my PC and I'm not making any additions anytime soon at all
why am I still here
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>>107594308
Do they even make x1 risers?
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>>107594369
Because you need to upgrade NOW. If you're not running a 9800X3D, 128GB of DDR5, and a 5090, you are NOT ready for the AI apocalypse.
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Whoever invented these angled SATA/USB 3.0 headers and GPUs so long that they could block normal headers, I hope you have a nice day.
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Just boughted a 9070 XT
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>>107594393
Welcome to the club sister
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>>107594386
I skipped out on upgrading my 3700X to a 5700X3D and my 96GB of DDR4 to 160GB last year when I was in Amerika, I will endure my punishment.
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>>107594378
They make risers for all size slots. x1 risers were especially popular in the bitcoin mining days.
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>>107594393
use linux and it is indeed the finish line as the based thread pic
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>>107594230
>run games at a lower resolution on the 4k monitor
yes if you get a monitor that does the "upscaling" for you e.g., my 32" 4k accepts a 1080 signal and stretches it to fill the screen, it looks pretty good.

don't get a TV for use as a monitor at your desk, you will hate yourself for it later
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Peeled off the stickers on my new RAM.

I paid $360. First sticker on it was $299 (then $329, $349, and $359).

It was the only 48GB kit left on the store under $500 so I felt it was a solid deal even if it was inflated compared to earlier in the year. And this exact kit is going for $550+ online.
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>>107594342
I'm going to be honest with you anon, the state of monitor naming conventions these days, I don't know which one that is, nor do I know which one the one on my desk is.

But, if they're the same, yeah.
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>>107594369
To do a Superior Dance in the face of the waitfags, of course.
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>>107594378
Yes, x1 often use "fake usb" cables that are more convenient than ribbon.
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>>107594390
Why do you choose to live in filth?
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>>107593434
kill yourself nicotroon
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>>107594438
Nicochad won, AMD won, simple as.
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>>107594390
I didn't know nurgle was into PC hardware.
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>>107594432
Go look inside your black computer with a phone flashlight and show much dust there is after a year.
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>>107594011
$320 PSU that is less efficient and noisier than several $150-$180 Gold-rated PSUs from CWT.
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>>107594545
>after a year
Found your problem. I clean my PCs every 2-3 months. It's not hard. It doesn't take much time. I also keep my home clean. This is part of being an adult.
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>>107594545
>Black computer
It's stealing the dust?
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How hard can it be to change gpu? haha
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>>107594609
Have you seen the typical /g/ thread?
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>>107594609
welcome to zoomer /g/
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>>107594353
Ok by why are you getting 120mm again
Get slim 90/100s to fit
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>>107593757
>a logical cope
Also known as a really good point
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>>107594640
>ram in slots 3 and 4
...anon, I
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>>107593434
I look like this
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>>107594545
Or keep it on desk. I literally just dust once a year.

Then again my old case was reversed ATX so the GPU was above the CPU.
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>>107594669
You're trans?
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>>107594725
I'm a girl
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What's the CPU sweet spot for a mid-level AM5 build? I have 32gb of DDR5 5600 and a basic 4tb NVMe. GPU to be determined. Can't wait too long on that. I have a feeling EVER-Y-THING inside a PC, including the case is gonna start creeping up very soon and I might not want to wait until 2026 to build.
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>>107594756
No you aren't anon. You never will be. Just like an intel processor will never be an AMD one just because you solder some extra pins on there.
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how dangerous is it to mess with cpu and memory speeds? i have 4x8gb 2400mhz ddr4 and a 6700k all running stock that i want to mess with, but given ram prices i don't want to break anything. stock cpu temps stay around 30-40c regardless of what i'm doing.
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>>107594885
Leave it. 4 sticks of RAM is difficult to balance if you're looking to overclock.
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are we panicking about GPUs yet?
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>>107594894
=(
guess i'm gonna have to get a job so i can upgrade then
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>>107594413
Fuck you, I paid $500 for a worse kit last week.
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>>107594908
No more than we were panicking about memory and storage a month or so ago...
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>>107594908
>Anon right now
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>>107594916
Take 0% financing but DONT EVER MISS A PAYMENT. Then you get 30% interest +/-
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>>107594413
>>107594927
>Xtreem
>7600MHz
Yeah let me guess CL42?
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Buy now or see if post holiday drops?
Same price on Newegg. Prefer Amazon bc I can abuse and I spent a shit ton of money on my 20 year account so I will probably never get flagged and I can abuse the chat support jeets if need be. Just use chat support in US mornings instead bc the ones at midnight are rude cunts.

Context: 10TB WD 3.5" HDD
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>>107594968
CL36-45-45-84

Which I won't be using.

I'll be manually downclocking to 6000MT with CL30-36-36-30 timings.

Paired with a 9800X3D.

Honestly seems like a lot of people at my local microcenter just went with the "AMD needs 6000-6400MT CL28-32" and bought up all of those kits, and they're now $460-600.

But no one was buying this weird 7600MT kit because the timings are bad and the frequency is too high for AMD (but a bit slow for intel), so it ended up getting priced at $360, so yolo I know how to set my timings and manually set the frequency.

>>107594927
I got lucky.
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I'm split between which case and CPU cooler to get, especially since neither is really important in terms of performance and is more of a customization gimmick. How do you guys deal with too many options to choose from?
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>>107594574
>This is part of being an adult.
Nice self-report. Adults don't have time to clean their computers.
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>>107593434
grim affair that nicotroon is still shitting up these threads
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>>107595015
Do you care about noise? No? Then get a case first then find a compatible cooler with pcpartpicker
Then make sure your cooler has maximum ram height listed so you can compare to your RAM

For me I panic bought the RAM first so I had to start backwards. Then I got a cooler that would work then a case I liked that would fit the height of cooler.
Also ChatGPT helps compare even though I hate the idea of giving Sam Altman more fucking clicks
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>>107595020
Let me guess- your family doesn't have time to cook meals, and you don't have time to exercise, either?
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Is this the actual generation where it makes sense to spend $4k-$5k on a rig? Thinking we aren’t gonna get generational leaps for at least 10 years.
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>>107595075
By "rig", do you mean an entire setup with monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc? Yes. For a higher end system with good peripherals.
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>>107595064
>For me I panic bought the RAM first so I had to start backwards.
I'm in the same boat, got everything ordered apart from those 2 items. I don't think space is going to be an issue, since I always choose full ATX tower to max out my fans, but I still feel like there's too many options to pick from. Last time I built my PC, I had to scroll through a few websites for a while before I ultimately had 3 choices to pick from.
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good evening i hate PSU shrouds
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>>107594413
>>107594993
Damn, that's a steal. Those are some of the most sought-after performance chips (24GB Hynix M-Die) available at the moment. They're far easier to get stable than 32GB DIMMs since they're single rank instead of double rank. And the Hynix M-Die chips (especially ones binned to do 7600MT/CL36) can usually be manually configured to run super tight timings for AMD builds. (CL28 or even CL26).
Right now those kits can easily go for almost $600.
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I'm going to buy 2 or 3 Arctic P14 Pro's for $8 each and put them in the front of my case, any objections?
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>>107595122
Same. I built 8 years ago and if you had cash you would have only 3-5 selections for top tier. Now it's options everywhere and sort of a dice roll.

>>107594984
>>107594984
Anyone??
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>>107595178
That's kinda what I thought when I saw it, which is why I jumped on it.

Glad I got a good deal in the current market.
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>>107594413
>T-Force Xtreem 7600CL36 RAM
My brother from another mother. I didn't get quite as good a deal since I paid $385 for the non-RGB version but I can't complain.
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>>107595273
I honestly would've preferred those, but the non-RGB 48GB kits were $460+ for no reason.
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>>107594984
Buy now, return by Feb 1st if no price drop.
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Why are 48GB kits so slept on?
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>>107595309
You mean return if a price drop?
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>>107595338
Honestly it's mostly just cause they're new and retards who are used to 8/16GB DIMMs assume you're doing something funky like 2x16GB + 2x8GB or 1x32GB + 1x8GB.
In reality 24GB DIMMs are the new 16GB DIMMs. Single rank and high performance. 32GB DIMMs are double rank and tend to be a lot harder to get stable (and usually they're stable with worse timings and or lower bandwidth).

A lot of people end up buying 2x32GB DIMMs because they wanted more than 2x16GB, when they could've bought 2x24GB instead and gotten a lot tighter timings and more bandwidth.
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>>107595368
Yeah that. Buy now while you're covered by their holiday return policy.
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>>107595380
Shit
Wish I came upon this info 3-4 weeks ago when I panic bought
I don't wanna drive 50 min to my Microcenter to see if there's any 48 kits
I already got 2x32 though so...
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So would a WD RED (5400RPM) be an ok alternative as a cold storage / once a month backup that I use in a SATA dock?

I basically need 3 (exterior) backups
2 hdds for alternating my person data - music, docs, movies
1 HDD for backing up ... smut (serious business)

Better to keep using that dock via eSATA or buy cheap 3.2 USB externals and pray that I ever get an interior drive failure that the exterior cold backup isn't DOA when I plug it back in?
The hot swap method has served me well for the last 15 years but I feel like I need to change things up until I make a NAS with parity or mirroring next year
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>>107595409
32GB DIMMs are fine, you're just not going to get the higher bandwidth or tighter timings you'd get from 24GB DIMMs.

If your Microcenter has any of these >>107594413 in stock, I'd probably make the drive personally. But you do you.
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>>107595346
>$220 for 32GB
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>HDD with 72000 hours has 4000+ unrecoverable sectors
is now the time to panic?
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>>107595491
Just restore from your backup!
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>>107594993
>Honestly seems like a lot of people at my local microcenter just went with the "AMD needs 6000-6400MT CL28-32"
they don't go that far, their favorite techtuber tells them "only buy 6000 for AMD" and they obey
>I know how to set my timings and manually set the frequency
things get a lot easier when you acquire this basic skillset
good buy
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>>107595462
Red drives are made for NASs, they're supposed to be running 24/7 without ever stopping. The thing that kills HDDs is the starting and stopping.
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>>107595462
WD Reds aren't good for cold storage. Get Blues. Reds are designed for 24/7 use. Turning them on and off increases the wear on them. Or waste your money on Reds, I don't care. 5400RPMs are the slow ones too and since eSATA is faster transfer speed the slow RPM speed is your bottleneck. Switching to USB will give you slower speeds but using a 5400RPM HDD won't make a difference.
Yes, external HDDs are okay to use, just know you won't have parity on them and external connections are shit, either slow transfer speed, probably won't matter to you, and has a higher chance of getting corrupted (use something like TeraCopy to copy and verify files after copying).
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>>107595506
Meh, it's a media drive, worst case I redownload the media.
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>>107595571
>>107595537
Thanks. Blues are rebranded Greens nowadays too aren't they?
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>>107595623
Greens are SSDs.
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Hey folks,
I've built a computer around pandemic time, and it's been with me with some upgrades since.
I'm running a ROG Strix B450-E Gaming, with a Ryzen 7 5700x, Corsair mystery meat 32gb ram set and a 3090FE, I know, fucked up mix but don't shoot me.

Recently, I've had some weird issues with the GPU falling off the bus under AI loads. It's a little hobby of mine and I don't have those issues when gaming, and I do run my 3090 through the paces. I've an 850w Seasonic supply so I don't think I'm hitting some power limit. I've recently tried running the GPU in the second PCIE slot and it runs fine there, reduced speed and all.

Now, this leads me to think that the slot is going bad, and I'd like to replace it before it dies.

I've an opportunity to snag a B550M Aorus Elite v1.3 as replacement for 50-ish bucks, though it's smaller than the full ATX board I'm running now.

It's going into my full size Meshify C case, should I look for a full ATX or is it a good pick? Eyeing it for the supposedly good VRMs and reinforced GPU slot, and the fact it's cheap and I can get it now, is it worth it?
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>>107595634
I swore years ago the Green WDs were the slower rated HDDs. Then again I haven't bought any HDDs since 2020, so I'm on borrowed time
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>>107595673
You're correct, the WD Green HDDs were budget friendly 5900RPM drives intended for light/sporadic use.
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>>107595532
I guess one of the perks of being in the PC building scene since the mid 2000s.

I got to see various eras of consumer PC overclocking and thus have a comfortable understanding of manually configuring settings for both CPU and memory.

Back in those days if you fucked up you had to go onto a tech forum and hope someone knew the answer. These days you can usually just google whatever the issue is and either find a forum post detailing what you need, or get an AI that is feeding you the forum post (but formatted slightly differently).
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>>107595647
Forgot to mention that it happens both on Windows 10, 11 & Arch, with closed and open Nvidia drivers. Genuinely think it's the slot but I'd love anyone telling me if I am right or smoking crack. My suspicion is that the slot is bad since it doesn't happen when gaming and I've tried just about everything, including throttling the power limit, and it runs fine on the middle slot. So I think a newer chipset with a new board that has a reinforced PCIE slot for the stupid brick of a GPU will do the trick.
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>>107595735
>get an AI that is feeding you the forum post (but formatted slightly differently)
i've never had a good experience asking AI for overclocking advice but that's probably because i only ask it esoteric questions that i can't find the answer to anywhere else, hoping there's a nugget of gold somewhere in the training data
but it has to keep generating tokens no matter what so it just hallucinates a nonsensical answer
and of course it always tells you that actually, you're absolutely right

anyway as you might already know you can just apply these on AMD and get some really good performance: https://www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831
your primaries are correct, you could even do 28-36-36 instead of 30-36-36

>>107595752
sounds like you figured it out already, you could try downgrading to Gen2 in the BIOS but that might bottleneck the card
OCCT has a VRAM test that generates high traffic over the PCIe bus
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surely this bundle won't be out of stock by saturday morning right
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>>107596172
depends on your location. I live in a big city and they sell multiple every single day. They also have more stock because of that
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>>107596172
those are some crazy prices, ram alone is wort 600
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>>107595828
I found his 24GB M-die page (well V3 at least).
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>>107596271
Nah, it's 32GB DDR5.

Microcenter is doing a deal right now where any motherboard CPU purchase can add on that 32GB kit for $200.


I was there today and bought this RAM instead >>107594413
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SSDs: relief in Jan or are we fucked?
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>>107595647
>>107595752
so what happens if you force the slot to x8?
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>>107596330
Bro the bubble will burst in 2 weeks then they will cost almost nothing, just wait okay.
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>>107596271
This is the RAM they're throwing in the bundle for $200.
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Heh you people think that AM4 will be enough to outwait this apocalypse and skip building a pc?
It won't. You will need to build that PC. It's not enough.

Neither is your ram

Neither is your monitor

Neither is your current gf

They all need upgrades in 2026
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>>107596372
They're already slashing prices even they know nobody is ever going to buy ram at these retard prices
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IT'S NEVER BEEN MORE OVER
5070TI WON'T BE SPARED
IF YOU WANT 16GB YOU WILL NEED TO BUY A 5080
WAITFAGS LOSE AGAIN
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lmao, NOW there are sales for pc hardware. Stupid fags waited this long to discount anything. Well, the c I wanted to build as a gift ain't getting built. I bought a lava lamp instead.
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>>107596340
I'm looking at the specs.
Bro, get a new motherboard. Your fastest PCIe lane is a Gen 3.
The second and third slot is a PCIe Gen 2 and it only goes up to x4, not x8.
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>>107596330
I've been buying storage for years the prices never go down unless they oversupply and they will never do that again after pandemic
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We waitfags won, we are now getting 10% off the 5x priced ram hahaha
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>upgraded from a 10900k to a 9950x3d
this is insane, I think this is the biggest performance gain I have ever seen in one of my builds, even going from a gtx 580 to the titan didn't feel this big
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>>107596428
As someone who had been waitfagging on a platform upgrade since 2018 (9700k+32GB DDR4). I finally decided to panic buy a 9800X3D and 48GB of DDR5 instead of waiting for the 10000 series which was my original plan.

I worry the AI shit will increase prices further and reduce consumer product availability, as well as a potential conflict happening in/around Taiwan with china could be devastating for the short term to any PC part supply to the US. Figured at this point everything else has gone wrong, so figured fuck it, bite the bullet now instead of potentially being fucked harder in a few years if/when my 9700k dies.


I was a waitfag and I regret it a bit more than slightly.
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>>107596456
Doing what?
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>>107596456
what game are you playing?
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>>107596480
should have gone 9950X3D or 285K

9800X3D is a toy CPU
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>>107596500
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
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>>107596513
Coming from the 9700k, I'm doubling my threads, and each thread is ~60% more performant than a 9700k core.

As I said, I would've preferred waiting for the 10000 series CPUs which likely would've brought 12-16 cores to the same price/tier as the 9800X3D sits in the current 9000 series lineup. But alas, I couldn't stomach the idea of getting cucked even harder on RAM.
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I will be there

I will buy the 100 E cores only CPU
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>>107596523
so you went from 780fps to 3652fps. nice
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>Micron also notes a crucial fact: the dramatic increase in HBM demand is further challenging the supply environment due to the 3-to-1 trade ratio with DDR5, and this trade ratio only increases with future generations of HBM.

increase??? wtf why are they making such a wasteful technology aren't things meant to get smaller
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>>107596551
>aren't things meant to get smaller
lol have you been under a rock boomer?
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Just buyed a GT 710
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>>107596513
9950x3d is a meme. 9800x3d is the better CPU for 90% of people building here
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>>107595380
I'm running my 32gb 16gbit a-dies with timings that are just as tight as single rank sticks while at 6000mhz. 24gbit m-die isn't as good as 16gbit a-die and requires loosening a lot of timings like trfc, tfaw, trrd_s, trrd_l etc. Truly the only downside to dual rank A-die is that running it at or above 6800mhz will be a challenge
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>>107595484
Well, after sales tax, sure.
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>>107596635
This is /g/ not /v/, I sure hope people here are better off with 9950x3d
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>>107595338
They cost just as much as 2x32gb kits back before ram prices got crazy so it made no sense to get them
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>>107596421
Yeah that's what I'm thinking, I've ran that board since having a 1660S. Still, I think that the card being stable and running on the Gen2 X4 slot pretty much spells it out the top slot is on its way out.
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>>107596643
> Rank-to-Rank Turnaround doesn't exist
maybe in your fantasy.

Dual rank has inherent penalties, and while rank interleaving can help with this, it doesn't get rid of the inherent limitation dual rank memory comes with, the CPU can only talk to one rank at a time, and anytime it needs to talk to the other rank there is latency while the CPU switches to that rank.

For the lowest possible latency and tightest timings, single rank is by far the best.

Theoretically, with 7600MT CL36, I could push for CL26 or CL24 at 6000MT if I wanted to get a fan blowing on them, but it theoretically do it and be daily driveable stable. But since I don't plan to actively cool my RAM i'm sticking with CL30.

As for the looser sub timings, many of those are just due to the fact the 24Gb chips are denser and it takes longer to physically go through the denser memory. It's not ACTUALLY all that much slower than the 16Gb A-dies, it's just you're dealing with less memory, and thus there is literally less space to read/write to. There're more or less the same performance level, the 24Gb chips are just bigger and take a little longer to work with.

There is a reason the 24GB DIMMs are loved for stability and performance while being denser than the 16GB DIMMs. If you don't need more than 32GB, A-Die is great, performance king. But if you need more than 32GB, but don't need 64GB, then 48GB M-die is the clear choice. Especially in the current market where 64GB kits are $600+ anyway.
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I had computers pawned while I was healing from four surgeries and a broken clavicle. I was so broke that I couldn't afford to get them back from the computer yard and I had to sell one of my computers to him.
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>>107596915
>clavicle
is that a cervix? how do you break a cervix?
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>>107596646
This is /pcbg/, it took years to convince people 16GB was not enough RAM
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>>107597011
I think the whole 8/16gb ram is enough thing gotta have been propagated by sour grapes poors trying to create a new reality
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>>107594908
>are we panicking about GPUs yet?
Why are we panicking? I picked up a RTX3080Ti for $200 earlier this year, Almost certainly stolen. I even had to take a friend and a conceal carry to the exchange. I'm good for the foreseeable future, I suggest you pickup a similar deal.
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>>107597038
How dark was the seller?
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>>107597038
People should do it like me, every time there is a spook I buy a new system. Did for crypto, then pandemic, and now AI, worked every time, providing very low cortisol levels for the years between.
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>>107595075
>immigration doesn't increase housing costs
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>>107597059
I just buy 6-9 months ago. Always. Saved a ton of money. More than I saved on car insurance.
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>>107597038
>risking your life for a 3080
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Is 7600X + 5070 ti a good idea for 1440p?
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>list item on local marketplace
>plainly state: no bullshit, just cash and local meetup, no shipping, etc
>can you ship that?
>do you take exchanges?
>what if you lowered your price
actual gorillas on these apps.
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>>107597170
>>can you ship that?
>sure, give me your address and i can calculate the shipping price
>it costs $2000 to ship it, is that okay?
>>do you take exchanges?
>i do. i want a new house for it, are you willing to trade?
>>what if you lowered your price
>sorry, prices only go up. if you're buying it price just want up by 50%
i am so bored that i would waste time trolling these people
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>>107593434
>broken drivers
But they were fixed?
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>shit posting stops when euros are asleep
Not really shocked. Just noticing a pattern
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>>107596372
>6000 CL36
OOF
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my cpu is a monolithic die...
and im okay with that!
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>>107597286
Yes. Although it was uncharacteristic of NVIDIA to release with shaky drivers. I really do wonder if they vibe coded them after huffing their own propaganda.
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>>107595020
That would be an extremely sad life. You're doing something wrong.
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>>107595020
based and depressed shareholder value generating-pilled
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I'm thinking I should rebuild an old PC, like a Ship of Theseus, and sell it for a few bucks. i7 8700K, Z370 Pro4, 16gb DDR4, GTX 1080, 500gb SATA ssd. Just need a cheap case, cheap PSU, and a cheap cooler. Probably get $300-$400 for it.
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>>107595346
>220 bucks for 6000/CL36 memory
I bought a G.Skill Flare X5 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30 kit for 114€ a year ago. Dang.
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Is this the appropriate place to talk about buying prebuilts? I've built my last 2 PCs but with RAM and GPU shit going on now it doesn't look like I'll be able to build without getting screwed.
I was thinking of just pulling the trigger on this.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/698877/powerspec-g757-gaming-pc
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Anyone use a m.2 to pcie riser cable setup?
which ones are legit?
I want to hook one up to my 10gbe nic so I can get 16x on my gpu again.
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Is there a way to improve Realtek onboard motherboard sound like some audio app? Or is it basically as good as it gets?
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>>107597372
Parametric EQ
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>>107597368
>Anyone use a m.2 to pcie riser cable setup?
No
>which ones are legit?
None of them.
>I want to hook one up to my 10gbe nic so I can get 16x on my gpu again.
what?
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>>107597372
You can EQ it.
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>>107597391
What do I EQ it with exactly? Do you have some values?
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>>107597383
pipe down. I saw windell talk about them in a level1tech video
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>>107597399
>Do you have some values?
No. Everyone EQs things differently. It depends on what speakers they have, where the speakers are, how far away you are etc. Best to look up a guide on how to EQ properly.
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>>107596818
Different rank activation time is faster than sequential same bank activation time. Dual rank increases how many total accessible banks there are and helps to reduce memory contention when under heavy load. Single rank is only fast in light/low loads and benchmarks.

Yes 24gb is great, but it is also slower in timings and only overtakes A-die if you're running 8400mhz+ speeds. At 8000mhz and below A-die always wins because of tighter timings
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My case came with a bunch of different screws in a bag. How do I know which is for mounting the motherboard? And what are all the other ones even for?
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>>107597498
read the manual
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>>107597454
Sorry, but you can't just handwave away the inherent latency penalty of dual rank DIMMs. Memory contention isn't really a concern on DDR5 you're applying DDR4 conventions to a new architecture. With DDR5, bank groups were doubled to 8, meaning even single rank sticks have 32 banks. So unless you're running heavy database workloads, that is more than enough to prevent contention.Further, every DDR5 stick is already a dual subchannel (2x32-bit), so the multitasking benefits of rank interleaving are largely redundant for gaming compared to DDR4. You're still ALWAYS going to have an inherent latency penalty every time you switch between ranks. You can try to use techniques to reduce the impact, but you can't negate the physics of the turnaround delay.
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>>107597372
>>107597399
equalizer APO + peace equalizer apo extension
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>>107597500
There is no manual
I figured everything out though
I was confused because standoffs are almost half missing and half are installed in random slots except for 1
I think they gave me some shit someone returned, I don't know if it originally comes with a manual though, there isn't one online or anything
https://www.agiler.us/product/atx-case-with-600w-power-supply-3/

There's supposed to be ten standoff for an atx but there's only 6
Luckily I am actually putting an matx board in and not an atx so I have just enough
But still, I guess I gotta go back. $54 US for this shit
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>>107597761
Actually never mind this board requires 8 screws
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>>107596527
Now you have the benefit of being able to sell your 9800X3D (after buying a new 10000 series CPU of course) to offset the expense of the new CPU and not have to worry about future RAM price hikes. So you get to have your new CPU now, enjoy it for however long until 10000 series comes out and then also enjoy the (allegedly) significant upgrades coming with the 10000 series if you so choose. It's a win-win-win; congratulations.
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>>107597359
Kindly requesting guidance or redirection to a more proper thread, please.
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>>107597913
That's what i've been telling myself as well, we'll see how it pans out in the longer term.

My brother is a niggard and he currently has a 9700X, so I can probably toss him my 9800X3D to him and he can use it for a few more years and we'll sell the 9700X.
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Began playing through on AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT
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>get new 5070 ti
>properly ground myself
>peel off all the plastic
>make sure the plugs are firm and secure
>screw it in
>go to plug in the monitor cable
>connector caps are still on the back
kek sometimes I surprise myself with my retardation
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>>107597913
>>107596527
I'm coming from i4770k to 9800X3D

I use low mastercomfig just to play Team Fortress
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>>107585511
Is this also true for the 14600k?
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>>107597945
I would get the G760 instead. More bang for your buck.
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>>107597961
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>>107598007
Yeah, at least the 9700k has let me play AAA games at medium in most cases.
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>>107598023
It's sold out.
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>>107596646
>This is /g/ not /v/, I sure hope people here are better off with 9950x3d
Be real with yourself anon
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>>107597359
Looks solid. Price is reasonable especially if you're assuming current prices ($400 for CPU, $300 for RAM, $1200 for GPU). Can almost guarantee they've skimped out on the PSU since they're using the NVIDIA adapter instead of a dedicated 12v-2x6, the motherboard is somewhat low-end but not a dealbreaker (unless you only plan to use the WiFi, then the non-e Wifi 6 may end up being a bottleneck), and the 2TB storage, while good for the average user, is likely going to be some kind of budget drive as well. Not sure on the AIO, since the 9800X3D doesn't need a bunch of cooling to do well, but worst case scenario you take it out and get a cheap air cooler. Case is fine, not great, not bad. All in all, pretty decent as long as you understand the downsides. I did see someone mention in a review that their computer couldn't handle setting the 5080/system to maximum performance, further re-enforcing my belief that the PSU is probably of very questionable quality, but PSUs are fairly cheap right now so again, not a huge deal-breaker if you're okay with opening up the system and messing around with the guts. Worst-case scenario is you'd have to spend an extra $200ish to replace the PSU and AIO. A good 850W PSU currently runs about $110 and you can get a good air or even AIO for $60-$100.

Technically speaking if you had tried to buy this two months ago, you'd be paying $600ish for everything but the core components which would not be great (not awful, just not great) but when assuming current pricing for the CPU/RAM/GPU, you're getting everything else for about $400 which is a deal. Go forth and consoom.
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>>107598082
Small correction: didn't realize 5080s were as overpriced as they are. So, assuming the GPU costs $1300-$1400, you're getting the rest of the build for $200-$300 making it an even better deal. Also I can (almost) guarantee that despite the listing being for DDR5-6000 RAM, it will likely be budget-binned RAM which technically doesn't matter for gaming on an X3D, but also worth keeping in mind.
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>Ryzen 5600X
>Nvidia RTX 2060
>16GB Crucial DDR4

How many more years will this build last me before I'm forced to upgrade anything? The most graphically intensive game I play is Crysis 2 and it runs on high settings just fine.
Obviously I missed the window to upgrade to DDR5. Will I be fine until prices come down?
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>>107598082
Appreciate the writeup. I don't think I'd crank it to hard max performance but I definitely need to upgrade from my current i5 9600k/2070 Super before prices get even worse. I also intended on slapping my current 2TB NVME in there, and I could even just recycle my FUMA Scythe 2 for the air cooler. I also have a LAN cable connection.
I wanted to get this one originally, but saw it too late and it was already out of stock.
https://www.costco.com/p/-/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-liquid-cooled-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-47ghz-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080/4000345301?langId=-1
They have this one I could go walk in and grab literally tomorrow, since it's in stock at my local store, but it has a 9900X, which I'm not sure how it compares to the 9800X3D.
https://www.costco.com/p/-/msi-aegis-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-9-9900x-geforce-rtx-5080-windows-11-home-32gb-ram-2tb-ssd/4000355760?langId=-1
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>>107593434
>4K:Used RTX 4090, RX 9070 XT
Why? When used 7900 XTX or 4080S are better and cost the same as a 9070 XT?
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>>107598118
>9900X, which I'm not sure how it compares to the 9800X3D.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpus,3986.html
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anyone here own any logitech mice from over the last year or so? are the switches still crap?
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>>107598243
Holy moly. Ok, so the microcenter one is still the top candidate, then.
Now, considering the downsides listed before, I think the only one I'd ever really encounter is the performance one and it looks like that guy was overclocking, which I don't bother with. I'd primarily use it for gaming within its limits.
Having read through the reviews gives me a bit of paranoia though, just because the way I'd be getting this PC is asking some friends who live down the highway from the location to pick it up for me because it's an hour drive each way. I'd hate to have some issue straight out of the box and be unable to diagnose it.
I still want a new PC but I don't really know where else to look since I highly doubt I'd be able to build anything comparable in the same budget.
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>>107598315
Buy it. Undervolt everything. Monitor thermals. Repaste if shitty thermals. Replace AIO if still shitty. Replace PSU if random flickering. Keep rest.
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I bought some case fans for an upcoming PC build, but just found out they've all got daisy chain connectors on them. I didn't want this. They're out of the return period though.
All fans are connecting to a fan hub, I don't want this extra cable bloat. I see the use for this feature, but I will never use it for this build since fans are not going to line up in series anywhere.

What's the recommended way to cut hanging waste cables off of fans? Just use a razor and cut them carefully down to the connector? or should I do something like cut, leave slack at varied lengths (staggered) and heatshrink tube them along the main wire?
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>>107598347
Yeah, I think I'll just nut up and get it. Waiting any longer than I have already will just screw me over further. Thanks, anon.
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>>107598118
>but it has a 9900X, which I'm not sure how it compares to the 9800X3D.
As I'm not too familiar with the differences myself, I'll just say it depends on your intended use. For productivity workloads, the 9900X is near the top of AMD's stack in terms of performance, but the gains they've made with the X3D architecture between the 7000-series and the 9000-series is substantial enough that if you don't need to leverage all the 9900X's cores, the 9800X3D isn't that bad at light productivity loads; it even out performs the 9700X in a couple of productivity benchmarks. The 9900X is "significantly" (relatively speaking) worse than the 9800X3D in gaming depending on the game and is otherwise unremarkable in that area.

This one is a bit of a harder sell for me despite being cheaper and at a glance being a better deal. Can't put my finger on it but even though it's technically better (outside of the CPU, depending on workload/usecase) it doesn't feel like the better buy. The motherboard is also a very budget board (both the Microcenter option and the MSI boards only have 1Gb LAN, while the MSI mobo has Wifi 7, which is miles better than 6, assuming you're running WIndows 11), that has one extra m.2 slot but fewer PCIe slots than the Gigabyte/Microcenter option. The RAM is 6000CL36 which will hurt the 9900X more than the 98X3D, and the M.2 drive is the most budget drive possible (WD Green) so they're cutting corners there, but the PSU comes with a native 12v-2x6 cable meaning it's likely better than what's in Microcenter's. All in all, the MSI is better and cheaper on paper (unless you're primarily gaming, then it's demonstrably worse) but I would still opt for the Microcenter build.
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>tfw you've been noticed
at least they are aware of the bug now
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>>107598361
Either way, buy now, either prebuilt or buy parts from reputable seller so you don't get scammed. Or see if Microcenter has any stock in person and work backwards --- RAM alone, CPU+mobo bundle, then get a good budget gold+ PSU and case.
Now with that prebuilt the only thing I can anticipate will be that it might be loud due to the 5080 and limited fans to exhaust the heat since the top reg is dedicated to the CPU and you only have one rear exhaust.
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>>107598378
I would be primarily gaming with no overclocking. I don't think the 1GB LAN would be an issue if that just means the upper limit of what my computer could handle would be gig fiber internet. We don't have that yet but the neighborhood is set up for it. I was leaning towards the Microcenter one anyway, but I really wish I could've gotten the Costco one with the 9800X3D just because of the product support. Otherwise, I would've walked into Costco tomorrow for the worlds most expensive slice of pizza. Thanks again.
>>107598409
Ideally I'd build again. I see this bundle(https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007086/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d,-msi-x870e-p-pro-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle). Combining it with a 5080 would put me right around $2000 alone. If I opt for a 5070 it'll cut off a nice chunk, but opting for cheaper on my last build despite saying I wanted to splurge got me where I am now.
Currently mucking around on Microcenter's website.
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>bought the RAM for $200 as soon as the OpenAI Samsung/SK Hynix news broke
>bought the NVME drive for $270 on black friday sale
>bought the PSU for $120 on black friday sale
>already have the CPU cooler

oh yeah, /pcbg/, it's all coming together, all I need to wait for is Zen6/Nova Lake
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pretty sure my PSU is about to explode on me, it's making the entire case shake every few seconds.
Is picrel any good for a replacement?
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>>107598525
Forgot to add, what should I look for as far as proper PSU connectors go? 12+4 or is there actual cables with a straight up 16 pin connector?
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>>107598554
it has japanese capacitors, so yes
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>>107598554
also, if you want to know if a PSU is good without digging too far into where individual core pieces are made, the warranty is almost always a dead giveaway. Good PSUs have 10 year warranties.
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>>107598567
Depends on the card. 50 series should have one or two 12v-2x6pin iirc
Decide GPU first then PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
https://psutierlist.org/
>>107598554
see above
>>107598567
ATX 3.1 12V-2X6 is sorta (not exact) as 12VHPWR ... Which can equal 2x 6+2 PciE

All in all buy a 3.1 ATX that has a good warranty and if you get a high wattage card find a PSU depending on your budget with at least 1 12v-2x6 and comes with a pigtail to split into 2x 6+2 and use another 6+2 for the third power slot on the GPU (i.e. 5090)
I'm out of the loop on radeons
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>>107598661
>>107598567
Also forgot
https://hwbusters.com/psus/will-my-atx-v3-0-psu-or-my-gpu-be-compatible-with-12v-2x6-do-i-need-a-new-cable-psu-gpu-everything-you-need-to-know/
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>>107598539
>heatsink
>when LF III literally 20 bucks more

>>already have the CPU cooler
upgrade then

>Corsair for PSU not Seasonic

>pretty solid spending and good parts
>settle for AMD GPU
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>>107598677
>AIO
hard pass
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>>107598661
I've only got a 2070 super rn, considering getting a 4070 ti or 4080. I think I'm covered by the 750w one
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>>107598677
A Seasonic at $120 is not going to beat the 2024 RM1000i at that price
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>>107598698
I'd go 850 if you're going 4080
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>>107598705
You get what you pay for.
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>>107598661
I guess my GPU choice comes down to the choice of building vs prebuilt. If I build I'm more incentivized to get a 5070TI and use the savings for the rest of the computer. If I get the prebuilt it comes with a 5080.
I was thinking this one as a starting point.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5
Or the Corsair RMe Series RM850e.
Any thoughts on the mobo in the bundle here >>107598525?
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I have a Silverstone Hela 850R and the fan is beginning to make noise, I presume from the bearing wearing out. I want to replace it, but on the website they claim to use a "135mm FDB fan"
what the fuck is that?
Can I just put in a 140mm noctua and call it a day?
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>>107598762
>FDB
Fluid dynamic bearing, it's quieter than regular ball bearings. If it fits, go for it.
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>>107598786
the mounting hole spacing is 120mm from center to center, so I'm afraid this is some proprietary lock-in bullshit to get me to buy another PSU
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>>107598762
Fluid dynamic bearing


Also poorfags dont forget about Woot deals make sure you look up model # and reviews
You get good deals like that too
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>>107598731
It's not as if he's buying a SF tier psu from 2018, he'll be fine.
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In your opinion, what demanding are even worth getting a powerful GPU before it's too late?
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>>107598762
you know that you can just lube the old bearing?
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The 7600X3D a good chip at $200?
Feels like maybe a 7700X is better in general.
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Do I upgrade from a 10700k 3080 or just continue to be a waitfag and hope everything goes back to normal by the time 60 seris is out
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>>107598969
I forgot to say "games"
In your opinion, what demanding games are even worth getting a powerful GPU before it's too late?
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>>107598969
>>107599017
Even older and less demanding games benefit from a beefy GPU is you like 4k and high framerates.
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>>107599017
Racing games with VR and a good wheel
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>>107598989
Depends, but in most cases the X3D will be better.
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>>107598739
Ok, update. Requesting input. I've managed to piece together this build. On the left is the build on PCpartpicker, on the right is my shopping list from Microcenter. I will not be buying an SSD because I'm just going to reuse the one on my current build which is that 980pro. I can also order the case on Amazon to save a few bucks.
This gets me a 5080 build, with components I want at the less than the price of the prebuilt I was going to get when I originally asked.
Any input? Namely making sure my PSU stuff is sorted out.
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>>107599044
FUCK. Wrong image.
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>>107598985
uhh i have gun oil, silicone grease, and white lithium
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>>107599060
Lithium grease is best for metal against metal like bearings. Silicone grease is better for plastics.
Use gun oil for guns.
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>>107593583
Optiscaler, retard.
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>>107599037
I'm not convinced anymore, feels like the benchmarks are sorta worthless to me. I'm going to be at 1440p minimum, and I won't be able to tell the difference between 240fps and 280fps when my monitor is only 144hz.
Seems like a waste to give up 2 cores at a similar price.
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>>107593434
rx 560 in anime babe style saaar
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>>107599101
>I'm going to be at 1440p minimum, and I won't be able to tell the difference between 240fps and 280fps when my monitor is only 144hz.
Max FPS is indeed irrelevant, but check 1% and .1%. If it's mainly for gaming, the 7600X3D will be all around better.
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>Corsair PSU uses 2x8-Pin to 12V-2x6 Cable
Fugg, it'll still be alright versus the native 12V-2x6 yeah? Why the fuck don't they use a native 12V 2x6 on their biggest PSUs I have no fucking clue.
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>>107599107
You realize current gen AMD GPUs are still RX? Considering the picture is from this year, I doubt it's depicting an RX 560.
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I havent even opened my RTX 5080 and I already have buyers remorse...
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Based Micro center sold me some RAM for 650 instead 900.
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>>107599203
You'll change your mind quickly one you start using it.
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>>107599233
I only got buyers remorse cause I saw the 5090 for 1,999
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>>107599075
lol ok we'll see it
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>>107599254
Damn.
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>>107599254
where?
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>>107593838
>>107593838
>>107593838
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>>107599275
Official NVDA site, it's long gone now...
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>>107599088
Enjoy your frame pacing issues
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>>107599294
FE cooler is a joke for 575w anyway if you don't use noise cancelling headphones. They shouda kept it at 3 slots thick and it'd have been the quietest model on the market
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>>107599050
do you really need an x870
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>>107599295
Using optiscaler doesn't cause frame pacing issues you lying fucking shill. You are just in the case of a dlss only game hijacking the inputs to use fsr4. Upscaling has nothing to do with frame pacing you dumb fuck nvidinigger.
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>>107599295
What are you on about? Upscaling doesn't cause pacing issues.
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>>107599411
Why so hostile against Nvidia suddenly? FSR4 is almost as good as DLSS3. Optiscaler works both ways too. What's with the sudden Nvidia hate?
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>>107599411
>>107599416
>inb4 who needs frame generation
Same shit you retards said about upscaling while Radeon didn't have it
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>>107599426
>sudden
You're replying to a rabid Radeon fangirl. He's always been mental
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>>107599431
Nobody in their right mind uses FG, but upscaling is a different story and actually useful.
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>>107599440
I guess you missed that I perfectly inb4'd your cope. Bye
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>>107599452
What are you still on about? Upscaling doesn't cause frame pacing issues, period.
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>>107599124
Those 1% are only slightly better, not over 10% for the sort of games I'm playing.



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