What made his solar panel video so controversial?
>Buy EV batteries and materials from China>Buy panels and electronics from China>EV cars are ass and Solar is to expensive for the average person let alone the fact that you won't be getting free electricity if you live in an apartment complex like most people live>Forgets that oil makes a shit load of products and its just not about energy supply neither is geopolitical shit going on>Venezuela being under control(to what extent idk) hurts Russia and China. Once Iran is taken out the picture it will hurt them more but muh trump bad and a hecking putin stoogeWhat else? A whiny bitch that preaches instead of educating himself. Besides that LED's cause more E-waste than any light bulb ever would but eco fags only focus on CO2 like rabid dogs.
>>108128150Please tell me you're young so your seething may continue for decades.>let alone the fact that you won't be getting free electricity if you live in an apartment complex like most people liveYou also didn't even watch the video or read a digest.
>>108128193Digest my farts anon.
>>108128193>You also didn't even watch the video or read a digest.NTA, but why would I watch a video by this worthless faggot on a topic I'm already pretty knowledgeable about?
>>108128193>Didn't refute any points that were made in the videoHoly kill yourself. We need oil anon solar is not the savior and we need a more energy dense and endlessly recyclable battery system than lithium as it is to meet our demands. Hopefully one that won't catch on fire and kill everyone.Will solar be dumped in a landfill like they currently are or will they finally recycle them? endless points can be made as to why renewables(lol XD) are not a solution.
>>108128193based anon making the retard spkit personality *3 just to triple seethe, I salute you
>>108128250Uh Oh melty.
>>108128113It was kind of preachy and offered ridiculous over simplified solutions like turning every corn field in America into a solar farm
>>108128318Leftists and not considering practicalities and incentives? Now I've heard it all.
>>108128379NTA I am still waiting on cucked lefties to bring illegals into their houses. It would be really funny.
>>108128150entire this. that fat faggot is absolutely clueless.>>108128193>when your iq is this lowwe all watched it. it's not our fault that your favourite youtube lolcow is such an out of touch and poorly educated monkey that has no actual concept of what the fuck he's talking about beyond what he's able to ascertain from a brief google search (and probably a LOT of editing)>>108128318the preachy shit was bad, but is inability to comprehend how everything is manufactured, mined, etc. to make his solar energy masturbatory fantasies possible is truly puzzling.
>>108128402>child sex offender has worthless opinionmany such cases. post face, xiang.
Eli Yablonovich explained why solar power is a dead end almost a decade ago when his insanely futuristic solar cell company was bought and shuttered by the Chinese
It's "political".Angst against green energy has been codified after decades of extreme lobbying by oil, gas and coal companies that have received hundreds of billions of subsides and taxpayer money. It is a key part of the conservative/right wing identity to hate it. Not only that, but the surge in 'contrarianism is my political stance' people means that the more benefits solar is shown to have, the more they must oppose it to show how smart and non-sheep-like they are. See also: Medicine, Climate, Environmental protection, consumer protection, economics, etc
>>108128193>the seething replies to this>SAAAAAAAAAAAR HOW DARE YOU CALL OUT I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO SAAAAAAAARkek
>>108128113Probably just the political part at the end. He's right about a few things, though. Politicians are bought and paid for by oil interests, arib oil kingdoms have a finger in our policy because they'd rather buy from them than drain local supply, and China is using the environment to corner the market on renewable equipment.This all means that if oil should come up scarce in a century or so, China's going to extract rent on every addition to the grid we have to put up to make up the loss. It's not ideal, and it's a little weird how nationalist interest is tied up in what trannies and blacks are doing while energy independence is the stronger position for America to pursue early.It would make more sense, I think, to push for an intake of stem educated, or stem interested, foreigners to secure the labor to expand the grid now, then push them out when things are good and funding for foreign powers can be trimmed. Then kick them out and they might even go home and make Africa, south America, and India better international neighbors to have. Triple the benefit to wealthy nations.
>>108128587A century is a long time. Why not wait for renewables to come down in price and make the transition once we're a little bit closer to oil drying up? They keep discovering massive amounts of oil so it's not like the clock is ticking
I made it like 40 minutes in before crashing outDude has never touched a solar panel in his life till now or batteries and then goes on to "educate" millions of people on them?All he did was spout a bunch of second hand bullshit and extremely hopeful math he's heard over the last 10 years.>muh solar fields don't have opexWe replace at least one inverter every 2 weeks on larger farms like he showed. There is also panel cleaning, replacing stolen equipment, repairing fencing ALL THE FUCKING TIME, and a few other small things that still roll trucks.
>>108128724The entire premise of the video was to show that solar is already self-sustainable enough and we can use our current level of resources to fully exploit it, which would be very good to reduce energy costs.
>>108128724This is reasonable if the oil cops are honest with their findings, and given that grim oil availability reports from them would easily cause enough panic that the stock market would divebomb and spending would dip sharply, I'm not all that confident that they are.
>>108128724>renewables to come down in pricephotovoltaik panels are cheap as fuck. get some non chinese controlled inverter with that and you're good to go.
>>108128150>Solar is to expensive for the average personlol bro those are so cheap now even homeless person can afford them.what is expensive is handyman that installs those on the roof.
>>108128113
>>108128113you didn't watch the video did you?
>>108128209because the video is not just about solar panels.
>>108128113he's the townsend of g.
>>108128113>What made his solar panel video so controversial?The biggest solar panel proponents have done more harm to the nuclear power industry than anyone else.
>>108129162you didn't watch the video
>>108129162Nuclear meme has been deboonked, nuclear is trash garbage.>>>/pol/528322848>>108118304
>>108129178Case in point.
>>108129162nuclear is strange jew magic and I don't trust it
>>108129194your mom is strange jew magic.
>>108129178So, why are Chinese building more and more nuclear power plans each year?
>>108129211my mum wasn't summoned in secrecy by a bunch of Jews in Los Alamos trying to find a way to exterminate Germany
>>108129233that's not what she told me.
>>108128113chuds hates solar because the cuckservatives they follow which are bribed by oil barons told them to
>>108128150Solar panels are dirt cheap nowadays. If you let yourself get scammed by some company that installs them or your local utilities company that's a you problem, not a solar power issue.
>>108129241Its the classical retard's double standard.New thing has x issues = deal breakerOld thing has x^10 issues = totally fine because they are used to it
>>108129192The absolute state of G*rmany.
>>108129194What don't you understand about it? It's not too complicated and I will explain if you like.
>>108129280I don' t understand why people dig up magic rocks that sends out cancer rays just to heat up water
>>108128113nigga shut the fuck up already
>>108129194Average Nein Danke sign holder:
>>108128113Because Americans are domesticated cattle.>>108128150>EV cars are ass and Solar is to expensiveboth wrong
>>108129292They also dig up oil which caused even more health problems and is way way more complex to process than refine ore => put in water + moderator => water hot => turbine spin => electricity goes brrrr. And most of the items around you were made from that oil refining.
>>108129334whataboutism isn't an explanation
>>108129292There's nothing magic about them. They actually don't even produce heat or radiation on their own until you've processed them.>just to heat up waterIt's a bit flippant to put it like this. We do it to generate electricity, which is something we're both making use of right now.
>>108129343>curses you with cancer when you touch it>not magicnot falling for your tricks shekelstein
>>108129353Uranium as it comes out of the ground doesn't give you cancer. The waste generated when the fuel is used is what could harm you.Lots of things you use would harm you if they came into contact with you, but are perfectly safe and useful when controlled.Do you avoid using stoves because the flame would burn you if you touched it? Of course not. It's the same thing here.I'm not jewish, by the way.
>>108128113Fun fact: Thom Holwerda, spastic shitlib faggot whose country owes its existence to mooching off the US for the last 80 years and told people to firebomb Tesla dealers, is begging his US viewers for donations to replace his shitbox that blew up so his defective family doesn't freeze to death in the Swedish weather.I found this amusing, and thought I'd mention it ITT that seems to be about, and features, dumb faggots.
>>108129366>it's completely normal for rocks to give you cancer, trust me I'm a Jew doctor
>>108129385I have spent enough time talking to you now. Goodbye.
>>108129385>barely literate brown thinks nuclear waste is "rocks"I should thank you: your mission to remind the White man why his ancestors genocided your kind is going well.
So are batteries actually cheap enough that you can just plop a collection of those next to towns and have the town run entirely on batteries for couple days and thats economical to do?
>>108129409i don't know who is right or wrong in this convo but racism is never right, please be a better person
>>108128150You missed the entire point of the video if you neglected how much he prattled on about not burning oil as fuel
>>108128318>turning every corn field in America into a solar farmHoly fuck, actually watch the video before commenting. He was specifically talking about corn that is used exclusively for biofuels. Not literally every corn field.
>>108128816>>108128859Solar prices come down pretty drastically over time. Even if prices are starting to bottom out they could still get halved over the course of a couple decades. Switching to solar now would be mildly dumb, doing it 20 years ago like the hipped wanted would have been retarded. I wouldn't call this a great case for "I told you so"
>>108128113Because rightoids will seethe hard if someone says anything other than all solar panels suck and are a complete scam.
>>108128113The last 30 minutes
>>108129579Initial investment was necessary for the prices to come down in the first place.And the one who earnestly took the plunge, China, is now reaping the rewards of owning most of the solar industry.America could have be the leader instead if it wanted to, if it listened to the hippies 20 years ago.
>>108129619china uses its entire manufacturing system to make it cheap, usa or eu couldnt own the solar market unless they had millions of people in factories making 1€ an hourkinda like how eu or usa cant dominate in batteries without there being battery materials they can mine in their back yard
>paying attention to communist propaganda
>>108128113Because he went political near the end. In most countries, "opposing" political parties generally agree on 60-70% of issues, and disagree on the rest. So a person who votes X and a person who votes Y both know that they agree overall.In one very special country, your preferred political party is made from angels who grace us with their beauty, intellect, kindness, and love. The opposite political party is spawned from anus of Satan, they kill innocents for sports and want to destroy the entire universe, and particularly despise you and everything you hold dear.OP said something about a particular political viewpoint. Hence half of the very special country now views him as described above: He probably eats live kitchen with mustard....anyhow, politics aside and speaking purely of the tech: For many countries, solar is better than coal and oil.
>>108129194>boiling water is jew magic.
>>108129292 Nuclear technology is incredibly dangerous. Some randoms rummaging through debris/trash caused an incident of international scale. This technology needs to be shuttered. The measures needed to get this boondoggle under control were monumental. Nuclear is extremely dangerous.
>>108130082People should be aware of the scale and magnitude of the cleanup efforts in a nuclear incident. It's like nothing else. Even the worst oil spill you've ever seen is nothing compared to nuclear contamination. It's toxic on another level.>Topsoil had to be removed from several sites, and several houses were demolished. All the objects from within those houses were removed and examined. Those that were found to be free of radioactivity were wrapped in plastic bags, while those that were contaminated were either decontaminated or disposed of as waste. >After the houses were emptied, vacuum cleaners were used to remove dust, and plumbing was examined for radioactivity. Painted surfaces could be scraped, while floors were treated with acid and Prussian blue mixtures. Roofs were vacuumed and hosed, but two houses had to have their roofs removed. The waste from the cleanup was moved out of the city to a remote place for storage. Aeroradiometric operations were undertaken by low-altitude survey, which was carried out over Goiânia. The radiometric equipment and materials available at the IRD[35] were quickly transported and mounted on a Eurocopter AS350 Écureuil helicopter provided by the police of the state of Goiás.[36]>Potassium alum dissolved in hydrochloric acid was used on clay, concrete, soil, and roofs. Caesium has a high affinity for many clays. Organic solvents, followed by potassium alum dissolved in hydrochloric acid, were used to treat waxed/greased floors and tables. Sodium hydroxide solutions, also followed by dissolved potassium alum, were used to treat synthetic floors, machines and typewriters.>Prussian blue was used to internally decontaminate many people, although by the time it was applied, much of the radioactive material had already migrated from the bloodstream to muscle tissue, greatly hampering its effectiveness. Urine from victims was treated with ion-exchange resin to compact the waste for ease of storage.
>>108130082Imagine abusing a story of COMPLETE government failure to secure a caesium capsule in a medical device to shill your hurr durr muh Cherbobul shit.
>>108130082 suppose you're still posting from a Commodore amiga too, right?
>>108130082If you really wanted to make this argument at least talk about the RTGs that have gone missing or found cracked open. not the failure of a government to dispose of medical equipment that is not used in power generation.
>>108129467You need better bait.
>>108130082>>108130091>one of the worst radiological incidents>4 dead>250 contaminatedBetween 1999 - 2020 around 460,000 people died because of coal power plants in the US alone. Puts one of "world's worst nuclear disasters" to scale. Let's not forget that coal ash is radioactive among other things. If you retards actually cared about not radiating people to death you'd be crying against coal.
>>108130267>you'd be crying against coal.but we are
>>108130275Okay, but your anti nuclear propaganda is a boon to coal, just look at Germany.It's also the reason why almost all European reactors are so old and are neither as efficient nor as safe as they would be if you wouldn't have met millions of people die from coal.
>>108130267>Between 1999 - 2020 around 460,000 people died because of coal power plants in the US alone.Thank God for scientists standing in back alleys and counting whenever a coal plant knifes an American, else we'd never know.
>>108130291>magical rocks are killing people with invisible rays and we know it because scientists told us so>burning coal is clean and safe, no the same scientists that told us that the magical rocks killed people with invisible rays who are also telling us coal is killing tens of thousands of people every single year are all hackslol, lmao even
>>108130326>put geiger counter to person>clicks>brain isn't painted on the wall>probably died of radiation>dude gets cancer>create model of particulate dispension that at no point was tested against reality>creatr model of expected deaths that at no point was tested against reality>cut a goat's liver and read the resultI miss the times when scientists used to follow the scientific method
>>108130267It was at least competently mitigated it just goes to show how extremely dangerous it is. If it's not properly handled the contamination will spread.
>>108130422>put geiger counter to coal ash>clicks>look at deaths around coal power plants>look at deaths in areas without coal power plants>compare them>much higher death rates for certain things around every single coal power plant compared to areas without coal power plantsWow very complicated science. Lead is a safe and tested fuel additive too?
Great, we just need to change our grid and economy from demand centered to supply centered.
>>108130505No, because you can measure it in laboratory. In fact, they knew it was toxic already when they were inventing leaded fuel you midwit. They didn't need to make untestable models. Read picrel and shut the fuck up.
>>108130623>Implying coal by-products and exhaust can't be tested in a labWhew lad
>>108129192Give the g*rms some time to evolve into humans, 2000 years ago they used to wild beasts destroying everything in their war path.
>>108128113Little jew boy shat his panties over drumpf out of nowhere. I hate Zion Don but I didn't sub for condensing leftoid screeching over pointless bs just because mutts love to get themselves killed by cops in the streets.
>>108130422>I miss the times when scientists used to follow the scientific methodNTA but it is abundantly clear you know next to nothing about the scientific method lol
>>108130091The difference with coal and gas is they just don't clean it up at all.
it is fascinating how the average freedom loving mutt rolls on their back and exposes their seedy unwashed stretch marked belly to any oil and gas peddling oligarch. Really makes you think
>>108128113Billion dollar hotel chains can't afford to change the sheets unless they employ illegal alien slave labor
He's a coping leftist who sometimes has good old tech videos but TDS has consume him and most other liberals.
>>108131279You lost
>>108128150As someone with a cabin in the woods, solar is the best thing ever. And if the grid goes down, people will solar panels will still have some energy. They keep hitting all the time someone or country could destroy the grid and nobody cares.
>>108128113Solar panels are a scam.They don't work at night or when it's cloudy, they leech poisonous chemicals into the environment and take up valuable farmland that could be used for growing food instead.
>>108131425Thing that take down the grid would also destroy your precious solar panels. Hurricanes, Hail, earthquakes.
Americans have become too niggerified to be able to see the benefits of solar. I hope the nigger cattle hord of America realises their shortcomings and gets better within my lifetime.
>>108128587>stem educated, or stem interested, foreigners>laborlabor is typically uneducated
>>108129132the 1700s cooking guy? whats wrong with him?
>>108109610>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
>>108128587In my country you need to pay thousands for a 3 day course to be allowed to install solar panels which connect to the grid via a certified inverter and all has to be signed off by the network operator too.The same people who went round years ago installing damp proof injections, then cavity insulation, then roof insulation, then removing cavity insulation because of the damp, the same people are doing a course then taking millions in government subsides to install solar systems which will never break even and aren't set up properly.If you live near the equator, heavy loads during the day, maybe a water heater or something, it's a no brainer.If you work all day, home at night. Might not be much point.
>>108129258français basés
So uhh... how about geothermal?
I tuned his post video rant about politic when he used the f-word. I'm not even american.
>>108128113Probably the part that wasn't about solar panels.
>>108128113I have no ideahe didn't really say anything brave, wrong or controversial
>>108132099biden people were actually planning to fund some new geothermal stuff in the second term - apparently all the new fracking tech could be useful. but then, y'know...
>everybody puts solar on their roofs>you STILL need full capacity of coal/nuclear/whatever plants because you can get weeks of cloudy weather>b-b-but wind>you can have cloudy days that also aren't windy. you still need the coal/nuclear/whatever>b-b-but hydrothere's only one proper river within 60 miles of me, and i'm pretty sure it alone cant power a major metro. you STILL need the coal
>>108133039If only we had a distributed network of energy generation and transmission that doesn't care about local weather.
>>108128777also, sheep eat the grass so it doesnt grow over the panels
>>108133039>make fuck ton of renewables>make fuck ton of batteries>make pumped hydroelectric energy storages>make bunch of nuclear power plants as backup>???>clean profit
>>108129409 108126108you do realise we are being genocided right now by them?
>>108129467racism is nature
>>108133039you still generate electric when its cloudy. my solar calculator still functioned on cloudy days.
>>108130189Missing context here. What is a RTG? Can you further describes such incidents?
>off-grid solar panels and batteries you own and control>nuclear plant owned and controlled by corpos, foreign investors, state and federal government, the UNeven if nuclear made cheaper power (it doesn't) they'd never pass it on to you.
>>108129555If the US government didn't want to always have a ridiculous surplus of corn at all times those corn fields wouldn't have existed in the first place.
These masses of corn fields only exist since we wanted to avoid another war over oil. Back in 1990 if Iraq had full control over Kuwait they would have had 3/4th of the worlds oil supply. Shit is different now, but we still keep corn farmers subsidized for biofuels.
niggas really be like>i HATE nature and the environment>i love breathing in smog and having microplastics in my brain and balls and having water that can be set on fire>btw make america healthy again
>>108133356Grass is much better for biofuel production, but they grow corn there because the government is afraid of famine.
>>108128113He dabbed on migatards and they're mad
Isn't this the same retard who bought an electric car to dunk on people only for his to break like a month due a capacitor shorting or something. Funny these green activists push for an electrified future only to find most electric companies are owned by Shell, Exxon Mobil, BP, etc. I also like these urbanoids pushing for this shit until someone turns the lights off in the city and the whole place goes to shit within hours. The 1977 New York blackout should be a warning to these fucks.
>>108133399being healthy is gay
>>108133511God created this Earth for man to enjoy and live fruitful, prosperous lives. Not to dump a bunch of shit in the ocean and make everything extinct to make line go up.
>>108133599Can we nuke india, bangladesh and pakistan? Please it would solve everyone's problems about the environment.
>>108133611the people you vote for love india
>>108133638So we have to nuke Israel to solve the problem.
>>108133611Kids should be made to play the India street view game in school.
>>108129579Panels are so cheap now the real cost is inverters and cables.Even cheaper panels isn't going to impact the total system cost much.
>>108133700Most people can't afford the insurance increase, and the loan needed to pay someone else to do it. If you can do it yourself then 8-15k is enough to cover your roof, inverter, and a battery backup. Otherwise it's cost prohibitive and won't pay back in the pay off period of the loan.
>>108133408This, really.Certain people are just hyper sensitive on the internet and can't deal with people having a different opinion from their own.
>>108129323both right
>>108128113nobody is against solar (it's cheap and easy now) ignores nuclear the whole time bc it btfo's every other form of energy production we have. solar is just lossy nuclear anywayalso wind power isn't net-green (just use hydro if you're by the ocean anyway) but it makes boomers seethe so i like it
>>108133039>chop down forests to install windmills that generate piddly shit electricity and seize up in ten years and just get abandoned>dam up rivers and completely destroy entire river ecosystems>solar electricity completely unscalable, fragile technology useless in many inhabited areas and stored in toxic batteries made of the blood and bones of congolese children>entire industry ridden with vaporware venture capital scams promising godlike mastery over man and nature rather than reasonable steps towards ecological balancenow we're talking green™
>>108128113didnt watch it, had sex
>>108133289We had 40W/m^2 here last week, now do 40*0.15 and you get how many watts solar panels would produce per square meter.There are people here who proudly build solar labels north of the polar circle, that means weeks without any sun in December and January. They think they are helping the environment, just like you. The only difference is it's easier to see how they are wrong.
>>108134267If course you wouldn't get 40*0.15 W since there isn't enough sun to melt the snow off of the solar panels in the first place.
>>108133851>nobody is against solarA lot of people are against solar. There are many problems with it.1. It destabilizes the grid2. Even in the best case it forces large power plants, which are still needed, to indirectly subsidize solar reducing profits without actually having added effective capacity to the grid.3. It forces a lot of investments into the grid which would otherwise be unnecessary, those costs are rarely brought up.4. The opportunity cost is, and has been, insane. If we had gone for something sane like nuclear when when Al Gore made his global warming filmcwe would have western researched and built Gen 4 reactors now. That would mean among other things that the problem of long term storage would be moot, since it's no longer necessary and the problem of possible meltdowns would also be moot. All problems anti nuclear activists argue about would be moot or at the very least such an infinitely small problem that there wouldn't be anything to argue about.That is the opportunity cost of solar and those are some of the reasons as to why I am against grid connected solar.
>>108133891>dam up rivers and completely destroy entire river ecosystemsAlthough this is true there are technologies that can mitigate the harm, it'll still be a problem though.In many nations and the hydro dam operators aren't forced to build those things and that absolutely ruins the ecosystem.
what was the point of attaching the political rambling to a "cheap batteries are just around the corner, trust me bro" videosome guy getting shot for disrupting LEAs doesnt really connect to the subject matterhe even puts on video showing people illegally obstructing the roads as proof of... something
>>108128113This commie sob has closeted troon written all over him. Just wait and see.
>>108128113>complains that people haven't voted in an overarching, all-encompassing government to bring about le heckin green energy revolution for the first two-thirds>complains about current overarching government for final third in the most preachy, strawmanny way possibleI don't think anyone actually minds solar, they just don't like the massive baggage that comes with the territory of a massive societal upheaval. But in his hour-long diatribe he never mentioned that.
>>108128113Solar power doesn't work effectively in countries where Sol hardly ever shines, like Northern Germany. And you can't transport the power over arbitrary distances!Those panels are anything but eco-friendly. Their production and the construction of the required infrastructure consumes large amounts of energy and resources, their installation occupies/detroys considerable surface area, they require considerable maintenance and surveillance.The gravest problem remains that you can't throttle solar power as required. It's volatile and the higher the percentage of solar power in the mix the more likely blackouts become. We have seen this in Spain/Portugal last year. It took 12 hours to reboot the grid. They suffered billions of € damages and several people died. This will only get worse the more we depend on electricity and the more tasks we delegate to "AI"...
>>108134621solar isnt that relevant, its about batteries being cheap enough that you can replace all forms of fossil fuels by plopping batteries down, use renewables to charge them and drain them over night + several other nights for redundancywindfarms are common in northern europe, or dam water powerThe weird part is lack of numbers relating to batteries viability, everything hinges on that.
>>108134621>Spain/Portugaleuropeon mexicantsthey probably use positive ground
>>108134301This. We could literally burn nuclear waste of conventional reactors and produce power with it.
>>108134648>windfarms are common in northern europe, or dam water powerWind farms in northern Europe has done nothing but rather we the prices of electricity, and they are all unprofitable because there are enough of them so that whenever it's windy prices go negative because the grid gets over saturated.Hydro shouldn't be part of the discussion because it has broad support and it can't be expanded much in places that has the geography for it and the need for it because it's pretty much always what's expanded first.
>>108134681yeah so the typical issues renewables have are dealt with gigantic battery installationsbut how much does that cost
>>108134669Their grid is interconnected with the grid of all other Euro countries via the French grid. It's a very delicate operation to keep the frequency in the grid @50Hz.Only with help from Nuclear France they could even reboot.
>>108134648> batteries being cheap enoughNot going to happen. This is a problem similar to interstellar travel. Our intuition is not made for it. We have to calculate it and when we do this we realize it's not nearly realistic.
>>108134301>solar bad because nuclear bestNo. Nuclear best, solar second best.
>>108131425>They keep hitting all the time someone or country could destroy the griddestroying the US power grid is grounds for a nuclear level response, obviously dropping nukes is not going to happen but a full invasion on the responsible country would be instant, their government would be dismantled in days.
>>108134751replying once before your retard attention seeing ass goes on the auto-hide filter, hydro is better than solar and wind by a lot
>>108133405Where did you get that meme from>t. Farmer
>>108133405>Grass is much better for biofuel productionby biofuel you mean equivalent or better efficiency than ethanol? is this some grand conspiracy by big government and monsanto to force farmers to keep growing GMO corn?
Here's your 2040 power grid:>50% solar/wind>30% natural gas>15% nuclear>5% hydro/other
>>108128150>Forgets that oil makes a shit load of products and its just not about energy supply neither is geopolitical shit going onUm doesn't he literally said it in the very beginning? And the whole point was that it should be used to make those products, but most of it we just burn, which is really inefficient? Or are you just lying?
>>108133727He doesn't want people to have panels on their roofs (unless they want to), he wants large solar farms to be built>>108134301Solar is cheap enough now that you can just generate as much energy as possible during the day (and either store the excess, or use it to do extra work like making aluminium), and only use gas (or ideally nuclear) at night (or when it's cloudy, etc.)
>>108134931>Solar is cheap enough nowThat was the video tl;dw.
>>108133851>ignores nuclear the whole time bc it btfo's every other form of energy production we haveNuclear is absurdly expensive and slow to implement. Solar can be installed quickly right now.
>>108135305Solar last for decades with barely any maintenance.Try running a generator for ten years without maintenance.
>>108135305Solar lasts fine.
>>108135338just because u like to stick uranium up your ass doesn't mean it is a good idea or everibody should do it
>>108135338brainwashed
>renewable energy is good therefore deporting illegals is fascism!Well that was a very informative video turned very retarded.Can't win them all, I guess.He's still right about the renewables, though.Burning oil and gas in this day and age is silly. The grid should be powered by nuclear and renewables.It really shows how fundamental and rotten the 'murican way of partisan thinking is.
spergs have a melty at the suggestion that anything anywhere should change in any way
>>108135590I agree but to be fair Trump and many republicans over the years have done their best to make right wing politics (whatever that even fucking means at this point) as unpalatable as possible.
>>108134962>2022Prices are insanely lower now than 4 years back. Might not be sustainable, but if you have a ton of land and like DIY, there is no reason not to be installing PV.
>>108134621Germs can buy panels at 10 cents per kWp and 6kW inverters for 300 Euro at the moment.
>>108134822Corn has high yield per acre but the EROI of corn ethanol is about 1 it's very, very bad.If you care about energy return then it's in fact the worst crop to make ethanol from of the ones commonly used, I assume it's used in America because of the corn lobby.
>>108135750yeah lots of farming simply would never, ever happen if it wasnt for government subsidiessolar can happen without government pushing it since chinks make cheap panels but then you have no storage for the energy, so its pointless
>>108134829Nice, I can already see it. THere will only be blackouts that last more than 1 day on average 10 times per household and year and brownouts will regularly be created intentionally to stop the grid collapsing and they will prioritize the brownouts to affect poor areas and they have still managed to increase CO2 output in the name of reducing CO2 output.
>>108135696Yeah, I think his anger would be perfectly justified if he kept it within the scope he's competent in.If he's done his research regarding renewables and Trump's administration is actively spreading bullshit about them as they are continuously bailing out the oil/gas/coal industry - he'd be right to be angry.And what's most important, he'd have an incredibly strong point so he'd have the highest possible chance of actually convincing anyone to change their position or opinion.But he seamlessly transitions from strong and valid points to simply repeating retarded talking points about>enforcing borders is actually fascism>attacking people is actually the first amendment>illegals are actually legal>law is actually racistand so on.He has no idea what he's talking about at this point, so he just regurgitates the position of "his side" as is without ever questioning the credibility of the things he's saying.And by doing so, he undermines his own fucking position and makes himself look retarded in the process.I personally can look past that and separate the good and valid point he made from the retarded bullshit he's literally brainwashed to repeat.Most Americans can't because they have exactly the same partisan approach to thinking.So by including those retarded points in his video he shifted a piece that could've actually convinced at least some of his "opposition" into accepting his position to something that's aimed exclusively at his partisan echo chamber.99.9% of people leaning right who were watching his video and were being convinced by his arguments and got to the end it have immediately thought>what am I even doing with my time listening to an utter fucking libtard?and left with an even stronger opinion on renewables being a scam when they are not.
>>108135720There are a lot of reasons not to install. Unless you install it together with battery capacity equivalent of several days of overcast winter sun then it'll in the best case not help much at all.You'll also no matter what have to upgrade the grid if you want to increase the amount of weather dependent energy production and unless you plan to upgrade the grid yourself then you better pray your state plans on doing it before your solar farm comes online or you'll only cause harm. There are many other reasons as to why you shouldn't just add more solar, it's not so simple as more potential production = good.
>>108134962>These figures represent construction (capital) costs, not the levelized cost of energy (LCOE), which includes fuel and operation over time>does not include fuel costlol. completely meaningless figure in this context.
>>108133326No. Look it up, faggot.
>>108135759>solar can happen without government pushing it since chinks make cheap panels but then you have no storage for the energy, so its pointlessWrong. Storage has been historically too expensive to deploy on grid scale but that is changing. Cheap enough storage that makes it feasible to completely cover nightly consumption is already within sight.Storing with battery for weeks or longer is another story, but with cheap enough solar energy it becomes feasible to synthesize gas for storage on a month or year scale.
>>108135825Even if LCOE was included it still wouldn't represent reality since solar alone can't work. It wouldn't include grid upgrades needed for massive energy transfer increases, supporting energy production on standby, which would vary depending on a lot of factors. If combination with batteries is included it still wouldn't represent reality either since how much battery backup and solar overproduction of grid need you actually need depends on many factors and can't be properly shown in such a data table.With stable base load energy production no such parameters need be taken into account, LCOE is enough to get a fairly representative number.
>>108135872thats kinda a thing that either happens or it doesnt and no one needs to make youtube videos about itcompanies would spam solar + battery plants and sell energy for cheaper than anyone else
>>108135872>Storing with battery for weeks or longer is another story,That's literally what is necessary if you want to rely on wind and solar. If you try that with Li-ion you'd very much cause the prices to soar and there's not enough accessible lithium to make it possible. Sodium ion batteries might work if they become cheap enough, density isn't as important for grid storage as for cars. >but with cheap enough solar energy it becomes feasible to synthesize gas for storage on a month or year scale.Yeah, factories aren't that simple.There have been many such attempts in the EU mainly hydrogen, in the last few years. Most have already failed, they get billions in benefits but fail to deliver, if they deliver at all its intermittent and very small amounts and the CO2 footprint end up being worse than blue hydrogen, which is hydrogen synthesized from methane. If you have the most basic grasp of chemistry and thermodynamics you'd instantly see that you could further reduce the CO2 footprint by directly burning the methane, isn't that ironic?
>>108128150The petroleum industry needs to go away. I understand that plastic is used in absolutely everything, we're surrounded by plastic. We have plastic things on our desks, food comes in plastic bags and containers, plastic plastic plastic! It's terrible for our health. We have micro-plastic flowing through our veins and even if we stopped and switched to only glass bottles and containers there would still be hundreds of years of accumulated damage.
>>108135935>plastic>hundreds of yearsMost well educated environmentalist
>>108135935You're just taking about the plastics, but the plasticizers in the plastics are often even worse.We really can't go without plastics as things are now, but society really should focus hard on finding alternatives and reducing use as much as possible.
>>108135943Maybe not as long chains but just take PVC, it'll stay for a long time and it'll break down into dioxin and other nice stuff once it actually breaks down.There are also plasticizers that will last for hundreds or thousands of years, in some plastics plasticizers can be over 40% of the weight.
>>108135935AI won't care about microplastics. Time to go digital.
>>108135948>>108135966a huge factor of plastics usage is...logistics. a very low cost container which you can produce en-masse and it stacks on top of itself, it's durable as long as you're not actively trying to break it, in cylinder form it survives most drops, it's light, it can handle sub-zero temps and can be taken into the desert.it's a miracle invention tbqh and it's also killing us so there's that
>>108133326An RTG is is a neat piece of equipment that generates energy directly without the need for boiling water. It may not be as efficient, but it is simple and compact. The US and the USSR had a hardon for them when it came to powering things in remote areas, like radio towers for the US and lighthouses for the USSR, or in space. When the USSR dissolved, positions were abandoned and these things just left behind. The terrifying part is some of them have been found cracked open with the radioactive material missing. https://science.nasa.gov/resource/how-does-a-radioisotope-thermoelectric-generator-rtg-work-the-seebeck-effect/
>>108128113>most solar panels are not clean energy and their energy benefits are vastly overstated>REEEEEEEE
>>108136398>puts uranium up his rectum>see guys it's perfectly saf-ACK
>>108130082>random browns die cause shitty gov>NUCLEAR IS DANGEROUS GUIZEbrown hands
>>108130082>>108136647No no, its actually a good point. Imagine a nuclear power plant but its ran by brownoids
>>108136647Not much technology is so bad that you need to go literal scorched earth removing topsoil and incinerating the entire area and scrubbing it down with potassium alum dissolved in hydrochloric acid. Actually only nuclear is so bad and toxic. Oil spill cleanup sounds like a picnic in comparison.
>>108136654India has dozens of nuclear reactors
>>108128206What is this device
>>108136854a 3d unprinter
>>108136854how new
>>108136860The sad state of the internet where people cry when you don't recognize some obscure pedophile meme. Yikes.
>>108136909how very very new
>>108136909Zoom zoom
How many subs / followers do you have chuds?Exactly, that means he's right and your wrong, its 2026 chuds, get with the times.Imagine being mad because you can't even compete with his genius level IQ takes.
>>108136683I heard they use human excrement instead of uranium, is this true pooanon?if so vary good saar
>>108137313A nuclear reactor still works when you shit on its surface.A solar panel doesn't.Solar is bad technology that is inherently discriminatory against Indians.
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>>108136909zoomer strikes back
>>108136854The most important tech to ever affect humanity during the second industrial revolution. Worst of all everyone knows what it is but you don't. It is so fucking over man. I am vanta blackpilled now.
You guys really love consuming this guy's stuff it seems
>>108137302>>108137313>>108137349>>108137672couple hundred posts discussing energy creation and suchthen this has to happenwhy
>>108135696more people would get on board with unions, consumer protections, wage floors, etc if it didnt mean propping up antiwork trannies and somali scammers
Shit only works in Africa. In north europe it's been literally 3 hours of sun last January. Solar systems make no power in the winter months. But when it's summer electricity becomes so cheap because there's an overabundance of electricity from solar.
>>108137865I was always in board with unions until I actually started working. All local union offices seem to be corrupt and my individual negotiation power is severely reduced by being jn a union, that would not be bad if the union was competent, but since they are corrupt I just see all worthless retards not getting fired and me being an over performer and not being given any path forward to get rewarded except promotion to positions where I become a managerThis is the situation is most of Europe.
>>108137865>if it didnt mean propping up antiwork trannies and somali scammerswho cares?compare how much money is lost on that crap to the billions we gift to an oil-based industry every year
>>108138801You've never been to Europe, though.
>>108138810I live in Europe.I eat my Baltic herring and celebrate midsummer.
>>108136854It's a depiction of the "desalination plant" on Epstein Island
>>108128150This is a Russian prostitute, foaming at the mouth because his asiatic dystopia can't offload its oil.
>>108138804>man those rightoids make their politics unpalatable>"people would be more on board with yours if you didn't make them unpalatable either">who cares?swing and a miss
>>108139476who are you quoting?every party wastes money on dumb shit, I take an art fund that 0.000001% of the annual national budget over billions to fight goat herder over oil
>>108138804>subsidize oil>i get cheaper fuel for my home and car>subsidize antiwork and fraud>i work harder for no personal benefit
We are at the lowest levels of C02 ever recorded in observable history, please don't buy solar panels which have a 5 year life span and cost C02 to produce!
>>108129555What video? OP didn't post shit.
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>>108136088There is also a ton of stupid plastic use out there that is unnecessary. Like liquid laundry and dishwasher detergent. The plastic for those is thick and heavy, and you're basically shipping water (which is heavy). The fact that the American public has been psyoped into using liquid detergent instead of powered concentrates is one of those little things that rustles my jimmies.
>>108139553You will lose your job to AI and you will like it chud
>>108139938If you like powdered laundry detergent, you're a fucking tranny or a faggot. Real men use liquid detergent.
>>108128227Brother a panel can weighs 33kg at best for 0.6KW, that's just 990kg (2200lbs) for an 18KW that will last you over 25 years minimum (probably 40 years with modern mono crystalline cells). That won't make a dent in USA yearly landfill disposal of 146 Millon tonnes.
Solar power is dangerous.https://www.businessinsurance.com/california-osha-cites-solar-panel-installer-employee-falls-29-feet/https://www.nbcnewyork.com/brooklyn/woman-in-brooklyn-dies-after-loose-solar-panel-hits-her-head/6403645/https://wset.com/news/nation-world/mans-solar-panels-on-house-catch-fire-nearly-loses-his-home-texas-dallas-burn-neighborhood-neighbor-sherrie-wilson-firefighter-firefighters-company-salesman-faulty-product-cincinnati-ohiohttps://chemsec.org/pfas-waste-from-solar-panels-this-is-something-that-people-in-the-sector-dont-like-to-talk-about/
>>108140435car is dangerous, you imbecile
>>108140435How much are they paying you to shill coal?
>>1081404535 dino nuggies per postdelicious oily fossils
lollmao even
>>108140453How much are they paying you to shill solar?
>>108140505they're bribing me with an infinite free fuel source, called the sun
>>108128113The fact that the title said I was wrong about solar panels and he then told me a bunch of shit I already knew.
>>108128113Smooth-brain partisan politics at the end. He genuinely thinks Red vs Blue is real and that the parties are different. He genuinely thinks the constitution only started getting violated with Trump despite every leader in every level of government wiping their ass with it in the same way since September 11th, 2001 when the constitution was deleted by the uni-party. Trump rounding up brown people and gunning down innocents for carrying a gun is no different from Biden doing the same, or Oingoboingo executing American journalists in our country and around the globe (he even won the nobel peace prize for it). But he gets all his news from CNN so not surprising.You'd think a turbo-sperg like him would do at least a little investigation. There is no voting our way out of this mess. And the uniparty ain't doing shit. His hyper focus on the electoral system being the problem (it isn't) is even more smooth-brain. The issue is we don't have a legitimate voting system. FPTP is not real voting. We need a proper tiered voting system so more than 1 party can exist and the other piece of the puzzle is mandatory term limits in all levels of government not just the President. Those two things are the only solution that doesn't involve fertilizing the tree of liberty and I seriously doubt we can get that without such lawn-care (unless 2/3rds of the states decide to call a convention and ratify the constitution to add it along with ending the 25 year long state of emergency powers that each president has extended which makes the President a king with supreme executive power).
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>>108140980the response to the Goiânia accident was extraordinarily costly, complex, and unprecedented for a radiological incident outside a nuclear power plant.What HappenedIn 1987, a radiotherapy machine containing cesium-137 was removed from an abandoned clinic in Goiânia. The highly radioactive source capsule was opened, and the glowing blue powder fascinated locals. It was handled, shared, and distributed before authorities understood what was happening.The result:4 confirmed deaths from acute radiation syndrome249 people contaminated~112,000 people screenedLarge sections of urban property declared hazardousThe event is considered one of the most serious radiological accidents in history by the International Atomic Energy Agency, and was later described by Time as among the world’s worst nuclear disasters.Why the Mitigation Was So SignificantUnlike a reactor accident, this was urban radiological contamination scattered across homes, streets, and scrapyards.Mass Public ScreeningAuthorities had to:Set up emergency monitoring stationsScreen tens of thousands of residentsUse Geiger counters in public spacesIdentify “hot spots” in unexpected locationsThat scale of screening was logistically massive.Urban DecontaminationCleanup required:Demolition of contaminated housesRemoval of topsoilRemoval of pavement and vegetationSeizure and destruction of furniture, clothing, and personal belongingsEntire homes were treated as radioactive waste.
Still waiting for LFTR.
>>108128113Texans. Rangeban those faggots. They would harpoon their own mothers to turn a profit.
>>108136854its basically from a gif where this machine brutally and gorily rips an anime girls body apart in the most graphic way you could imagine.
Guys we need to keep using cancerous fuels because retards might pour radioactive powder over themselves thinking its glitter!!!
>>108131314This is why they should be going after corporations who do it and so on which would be easy but they'd rather go after some maid spic that doesn't do anything at all. I wonder why he'd be mad. I honestly don't give a fuck but its very clear who is bringing them in and why they just let them keep doing it. YEt you like the little show they put on.
>>108133399I bet that water is still good its just natural gas being released from the pipe.
>>108134621everything you've said is wrong though.
>>108140016>paying a premium for liquid when it comes for practically free from the tapah so it's brain damage
>>108140978>since September 11th, 2001You mean since 1861
>>108128113back in 2007 mods would ban people for spamming the same thread over and over
>>108140978pretty sure he addressed a lot of that in the video
>>108140016>>108139938i use laundry pods because they're convenient (i share a laundry room so i dont have to lug stuff up/down every time i do laundry, just 1 pod per loadbut i use powder dishwasher detergent
he makes good videoschuds are just butthurt about solar for some reason even though it doesn't affect them at all
>>108144217>chuds are just butthurt about solar for some reason even though it doesn't affect them at allmy pops hates electric and funnily enough he's able to verbalize it after his right wing pundits fed him the lines. in his words:>depreciation of gasoline cars, less opportunity to service them ourselves>price of gas increasing>energy prices going up because govt needs to subsidize and build up on the infrastructurehe's an old school car guy and the thing that upsets him the most is electric cars
>>108144266self serviceability of ICE cars has been going down as wellelectric cars also require less service in general>price of gas increasingwhat does this have to do with hating electric carsif anything they should reduce demand for gas so prices go down (or rise slower)>infrastructure costsbetter infrastructure is a good thingwe've been riding on the coattails of infrastructure investment for decades
>>108144266>depreciation of gasoline carsgasoline cars depreciate as a function of time anyway. i doubt this is significant>less opportunity to service them ourselveselectric vehicles require less service and the thing being removed (ICE) wasn't serviceable by the general public who can't even change their own oil anyway>price of gas increasingthe price of gas has gone up because of inflation, increased cost of input materials (crude), and increased consumption >energy prices going up because govt needs to subsidize and build up on the infrastructuresame for this. we also could have gone to nuclear with hydro/solar/wind (where they make sense) and decreased price/pollution overall, but the oil lobby killed a lot of that
>>108144339There's no such thing as an oil lobby.
>>108129340it's ocntrast and copare
>>108144298>>108144339if i had to characterize the most appealing aspects of conservatism and boomers, it's that it they're willing to listen to any (mis)info which supports their stances as long as it preserves their way of living while they're still herei've had a talk with him about solar panels and batteries because we get a lot of sun, and despite the rebates he's unwilling to do it because i guess he thinks he won't be alive to see the benefits from the upfront costsi'm a non-political dude because where i live we get to vote for centre-right/centre left as the two main parties and they're both fairly focused on stabilizing the economy, so i don't feel too strongly about this to point out the flaws in the american brand of conservatism he argues on
>>108144344tell that to epstein
>>108144402>he thinks he won't be alive to see the benefits from the upfront costsI mean he might be right, but that's the boomer mentality perfectly encapsulated>fuck you I got mine
My country near the black sea could plop some deep sea wind mills in there, kill all marine life but have 100x the energy needs for a century or more until it grew into a cyberpunk dystopia.
>>108144450compared to fishing the impact is minimal
>>108144402sell it to him as being more independent and better able to withstand price fluctuations from the energy companiesif you can't produce your own power, you are their slave
because hes a relativist, choose neither side and be sure to piss off both
>>108128150>Be a retarded mutt>Burn beautiful clean coal and drive around gas shit boxes polluting the local air>Outdoor scenery and city skylines obscured by a seemingly volumetric fog Fuck off. I'm sick of gas cuck apologists. COVID redpilled me hard on the fossil fuel question.
>>108134301>It destabilizes the grid1. it is the lack of storage that destabilises the grid2. everyone in these threads fails to understand there is no one correct answer for every country.3. read point two again you fucking idiot4. the west has forgotten how to do nuclear properly pic extremely related
>>108145195Have fun charging your car with a cross country trip faggot. Enjoy hail and high wind damage destroying your solar panels. I just love exploding windmills. EV cars are disposable.
>>108145604They haven't forgotten. It's was a purely ideologically motivated decision to phase out nuclear power.
Nuclear is abysmal dogshit.>Nuclear is uneconomical>nuclear takes a gorillion years to build>nuclear waste problem has not been solvedin the time you build a nuclear plant you can install much more solar and wind>SMRs are meme vapourwarenuclear has the most catastrophic failure mode of any human technology (take a look at Chernobyl)>constant ongoing decomissioning/maintenance costs. cannot leave them unattended or you have nuclear meltdown catastrophe. meanwhile nothing happens with solar or windSolar mogs that slop hard.
>>108128113>hurrdurr pay a fortune now>you'll make all the money back in 20 years, and after that it's le profit :^)solartards deserve to be gassed
>>108145645>nuclear wasteJust recycle it in india and watch them purify it in the ganges river. Besides you can recycle the fuel through repossessing a thousand times over.
>>108128113Because he makes some good points but then also makes awful brain-dead points.He is completely right in how wasteful oil drilling, refining and burning is. He is right about the low cost of solar energy. He isn't right about electric cars being able to run 10+ years without issues, batteries/solar panels being easily recycled and refuses to acknowledge that solar/wind add a lot of complexity to the electric grid and make things less stable overall.So in the end the entire video falls flat on its face and is perceived like a disingenuous pro-solar propaganda.
>>108145749>solar/wind add a lot of complexity to the electric grid and make things less stable overall.it is the lack of storage which makes it less stable, not the form of generation. solar and wind provide a stable output over the whole farm. There are countries with zero problems with this because they have abundant renewable energy, like Australia. These threads are always amerifats shouting that nuclear is best when only a few countries have those expertise, and america seems to be losing that. They're so expensive now in the USA that you could build much more wind and solar with a giant battery too and it would be done in a few years. Nuclear is basically gambling now. Will it cost double? Will it take 20 years? 30? it's a fucking joke
>>108145777Those things have been "solved" by adding extra batteries and shit to the grid that help when the grid is fucked. But that shit adds complexity to the grid and also adds a lot of extra cost not only to set up but to maintain.And this is why I called that guy's video disingenuous. All pro-renewables either handwave or oversimplify the issues that renewables bring.It would be ideal if everyone could get by with a mixture of renewables and hydro/geothermal with nuclear sparsely used. Burning oil for electricity is ridiculously stupid, but I'm not going to pretend that such a world is possible right now.
>>108145777Batteries have a 10 year life span across all configurations. Get fucked retard this shit is not cheap to replace.
>>108145777>nuclear would be a gambleThe US and the EU either banned or overregulated the nuclear energy sector and now they're waking up to the reality that they've been left behind by the likes of China.Countries that didn't fuck up nuclear are seeing the same benefits that we're seeing now with solar panels: lower costs, better construction methods and more output.
>>108145822confidently incorrect
>>108145840Anon please.
>>108145664>doesn't understand the concept of paying forwardGo back to 1800s gramps
>>108145846To who the person who will be buying the house after the 10 year loan while you scrap it for materials since its no longer working?
>>108128113>Latest eceleb news thread.That's nice dear.
>>108128113>everything just works now>what doesn't work at all will work in two weeks>don't worry about the waste of land, it's being wasted on corn anyway>nuclear? What's that?>no I won't put panels on my house>trump bad open borders now, chuddie
>>108128113He was wrong.Next question.
>>108128150>my uncle works for Exxon
>>108144141>pretty sure he addressed a lot of that in the videoNot in the slightest. He spent a majority of the rant all but stating emphatically that this is a NEW occurrence and exclusive to the second term of President Pepe (shitified pants and all). But he isn't necessarily wrong about solar. I do think he is objectively WRONG about building solar farms though. In no scenario should we be clear-cutting precious forests for solar farms. The rational solution is every home should be required by law to have a whole home battery backup system so aging grids can manage load on their network and mandate solar panels on roofs. If it is centrally regulated and everyone has to participate then it can't lower the value of real estate and reduces strategic risk of infrastructure by decentralizing power routing. In such a scenario a major line being down is just an inconvenience and not 25% of power loss for the population, since power could be supplemented by battery storage on-site and routed around outages without straining stations and transformers. Solar farms are a blight on humanity. Solar power however is incredible. Most electric providers BUY power from major producers like nuclear or coal plants. With this system they (municipal electric company) save their customer money, reduce maintenance costs, reduce repair costs (less high volume labor during an outage), and significantly cut their own costs (they won't have to buy as much power from plants). It is win-win all the way down. Everyone saves more and makes more and we have a more resilient grid.
>>108148332Do think shaniqua and jamal won't just rip that out of their section 8 housing and resell that shit for some crack? Also home battery setups are a massive fire hazard.
>>108128150>>Buy panels and electronics from ChinaAmerica actually produces really high quality solar panels domestically you fucking retard
>>108128113is this a comedy? Surely this is a parody.
The modern Left-Wing, in its current state, poses a fundamental danger to the First World. Measures, unfortunately, must be taken to regulate and retard the growth of leftist and socialist ideology. This would also help the Right-Wing in shedding off the more detrimental elements, as they won't be as popular as a counter(part) to the other side's idiocy.
>>108128464nta as well. invite them in bud. make sure you get a middle easterner one so they call you by your dead name and beat the fuck out of you for the keys to your honda fit.
>>108128206f u
>>108128113I am disappointed. Usually he is somewhat smart. I listened to the first few minutes and he says many things that are wrong. If solar was as good as he claims, "greedy" billionaires that idiots hate so much would print money by going mass solar. But solar still depends on government subsidies for a variety of reasons. When solar becomes cost effective, it will naturally replace fossil fuels as energy source. Also, the distinction of renewable and non-renewable is low IQ.
>>108136854It's used in the manufacturing of kigurumi body suits.
his haters are retardlicans
Solar is good but green parties muddied the waters too much with nuclear so nobody trusts these incompetent hacks. If it weren't for hippies and greenfag mental illness we wouldn't even have climate change now and fossils would be partly deprecated.This is why you're seeing solar marketing shifting from greenwashing to focusing on energy independence and long term savings.
>>108148783>home battery setups are a massive fire hazardLiFePO4 use non-flammable electrolytes and have been the standard for 5+ years now anon. Have you been living in a cave? Electrifying homes is a fucking fire hazard. LiFePO4 home battery backup systems are as safe as any other retarded shit in your house. And you don't sleep on it retard-kun. You keep it outside of your house.
>>108150810Solar is the exact opposite of energy independance.Solar Panels last 5 years, batteries last 3-5 years, good luck getting any of those materials to make your own.Meanwhile gas will always be available, you can even grow your own biofuels.
>>108145749>>108145777It's technical debt. The developed countries all built their grids 50-100 years ago when there was pretty much only one kind of power: large plants that almost always generate. When you're still building a lot of new infrastructure like China is, you don't have to spend nearly as much to rip out, upgrade, or redesign old shit. Their energy storage will be priced into electricity rates/taxes/whatever over however many decades it takes to finish it, and then to them it'll just be how it always was.
>>108149046I'll explain why this is stupid.>the energy we capture from renewable sources like solar and wind power doesn't cost anythingOk, so the idea of "capturing" is a fraud, we can't "capture" solar energy. The energy is converted from one form to another.Oil has energy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_energyThe reality of renewables is that they aren't actually infinite either. The Earth has a limited amount of space. It's not infinite. It's finite. So solar is finite. The same is true of wind: the atmosphere is finite. Hydro? Limited by how many powerful rivers there are, or the size of bla blaanyway it's limited. They're not unlimited resources.>yeah but they don't run outThe equipment fails / wears out. The equipment is made from non-renewables. ergo, it's second order non-renewable. Better than first order, but it's still non-renewable.The thing he said, "it's a good deal" may be correct, but it ain't a no-brainer. It requires careful calculation.
>>108151196>Solar Panels last 5 years, batteries last 3-5 yearsIt's weird they're offering 25 year warranties for the former and 10 year warranties for the latter, then.
>>108150778>we are going to win
>>108151249The companies that make those panels and batteries will either be out of business in 5 years time or "changed names"
>>108151261Money winsRest of the world loses
>>108135321I had access to proprietary data in the 2010's that called out average profitable panel life was 17 years. These were leased systems. Good national data. It is probably better now rather than worse because of the proliferation of micro-inverters which keep array efficiency from being retarded from one or two shit panels. >>108135872Modern buildouts can't even time shift much farther than 4 hours and it's an extremely expensive perishable item. You're doing better than old lead acid shit you'd find on hospitals or datacenters, but you're still talking 8 year replacement cycles. The other problem is nameplate capacity of these grid tied systems is kind of horseshit even brand new. The difference between 14GW nominal vs 5GW real world. Only solution to that is to build more at scale, which exasperates the problem of having to rip/replace batteries as you try to maintain capacity pushing operating cost up. It's a feedback loop, not something that's getting cheaper with scale.
>>108150778He should take it as an indication that his shift in content has resulted in a shift in audience. His reach is limited by that survivor bias, the more outright hostile he is to one side the more his viewership skews toward circlejerk. He just had a wider tent in his PS1 video days.
>>108128206kek, i remember the first time
>>108151428Yeah, a tiny company like LG will probably die in 5 years.
>>108152226>shift in contentit's the same nerdy shit it's always been (and that's a good thing)
>>108152277He will never criticize israel :^)
>>108151220>The equipment fails / wears out. The equipment is made from non-renewables.things only wear out if your solar panels are made like shit, physically. the semiconductors have infinite lifetime, literally are recycleable and nothing wears out/is consumed
>>108135771>There will only be blackouts that last more than 1 day on average 10 times per household and year and brownouts will regularly be created intentionally to stop the grid collapsingDunno about that. The UK in 2025 was covered by 36-39% solar/wind, 30-38% gas, 8%-13% nuclear, and biomass somewhere between 3%-8%. More likely is that our sclerotic marginal pricing system will drive people to intentionally turn off their electric overnight and start using dead frozen pensioners as an innovative new biomass source.
>>108150778Look at this thread. It's like he found and kicked a prime schizo nest. Now all these retards are in panic and try to haphazardly form some form of response.
>>108152488>sclerotic marginal pricing system will drive people to intentionally turn off their electric overnightI'm sure that will work out well. I'm sure it won't affect the poorest people the most, I'm sure it'll not cause what little industry still exists to flee Britain.
>>108153141Yeah, anything not reported on by MSM is schizo stuff. I'm sure there isn't dystopian surveillance in the west, I'm sure there are no pedophile elites and I'm sure all Ukrainians want to die for NATO and there was no western meddling for geopolitical aims no one cares about that in the end led to Putin invading Ukraine.
>>108153243You are absolutely correct, agent Anomause. The pedophile elite Putin is making you install solars at your roof. Your current mission is to infiltrate their main base of operation on 4chan and stop their operation by any means necessary.Further instruction will be sent to you in morse code of a dripping sink.
>>108153301You will not convince many with that sorry attempt.
>>108153243It's telling that leftists only started caring about the Epstein files once they realized they could be used to attack Trump with - and ONLY insofar as the files can be used as a cudgel against him. Leftists otherwise couldn't give a rat's ass about the children being abused. In other words, the Epstein files are real if that hurts Trump, or fake QAnon conspiracys if not.Leftists unironically deserve to be purged.
>>108153773normgroids were bussy with the vax when epstein droppedwithout trumps second term the thing would have been burried already, but now all the grifters from all sides are latching onto the story
>>108153773No one is asking who started it, who made the cases and who benefits the most from the blackmail.
