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Previous Thread: >>8119146

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
EF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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post your ponyslop below
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What happened with the OP update
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Dont mind if I do
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This anon >>8123441 is allowed to post local in the new thread.
Everybody else better be using NovelAI!!
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>>8123447
/edg/ had some see-through tricks for pony

backlighting, (see-through:0), various mix of rating_safe in pos, negs like underwear, lingerie/chemise, nsfw, wet, etc. negpip more effective than regular negative prompting. there's also a see-through silhouette lora but im not using it
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>>8123468
L-Lumi?!
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Reforge guy here, updated the most i could up to upstream forge/a1111, so basically it has everything, but

img2img batch unload (idk what is this but it breaks things)
DDIM CFG++ (cfg denoiser weird thing with this)
SD3

The rest is totally updated

Now tried to do a branch with the forge changes with gradio 4, but to be honest it broke so much things that for now isn't probably worth it. Like 50% of the extensions die, things get stuck and a lot more IoI. I hope gradio 4 gets good someday.
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>>8123462
>>8119570
>Shitty OP
>Shitty OP Pic
You guys are pathetic.
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>>8123480
can you fix kohya hires fix generating black images?
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>>8123486
the integrated one?
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For fucks sake OP you had one job..
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>>8123486
as a former kohya hiresfix fanatic, i endorse hidiffusion
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>>8123491
yeah but now that i think about it it might have been fucked with regular forge so not something you've messed with
>>8123493
idk what that is really, is that available as an extension?
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>>8123484
>>8123492
Previous thread is still young. Take it there.
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>>8123495
https://hidiffusion.github.io/
has a comfy implementation
https://github.com/blepping/comfyui_jankhidiffusion
RAUnet is the big improvement over kohya
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>>8123497
It is related to this? https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/issues/68
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>>8123498
yes
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>>8123500
Gonna check it out. I guess it can be kinda added as a built in extension, but I'm so bad a frontend that idk how i would add the buttons etc IoI
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>>8123475
I'd rather have a catbox of a previous beauty because she doesn't have a nose. HATE NOSES!
But thanks for the workflow I guess... Not that I have a big hunger to install all the nodes I'm missing. Also I have a feeling negpip won't work together with prompt control and I need the [x:y:0.5] thing more than life.
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>>8123502
i'd appreciate it. i've been getting pretty nice results by genning at 1.5 with Euler SMEA Dy AYS but right now kohya hires fix is basically a coinflip as to whether or not it's going to shit the bed
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whats the opposite of frown as a tag for the eyebrows?
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>>8123441
variants:

https://files.catbox.moe/zz65w6.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/7jywxp.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/ej379k.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/jhfkze.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/g2hir5.jpg
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>>8123510
that's nai, huh...?
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>>8123508
v-shaped eyebrows. (put angry in negs if you want to avoid that)
raised eyebrows.
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>>8123517
now anti-alias her, please
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>>8123496
previous thread is at limit and about to archive retard
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>>8123517
I wish it understood how to make pixel art at a normal resolution instead of making it a distorted mess
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>>8123522
Images are not necessary for OP proposals.
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>>8123524
>he misclicked /g/
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>>8123526
maybe
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>>8123525
the fuck are you talking about 'OP proposals', the new OP was decided on and used this baker was just too much of a retard to use it. no one reads a thread once the new one is made and the old thread is not "young", its about to fall off the last page. please rope you dumb faggot
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>>8123524
Nice spooky pic but need more fully naked girls walking around with all the carefree in the Netherworld.
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so how do I install onediff for comfy
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any checkpoints that enforce their style over the lora? I train my character loras from Koikatsu pictures and the 3d style ends up blending most of the time even with 3d on negative. I found this model from an anon's catbox https://civitai.com/models/578947/2d-fish-or-pony-animemix and it works really well for what I want except that it makes some characters look a bit more childish than they are
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>>8123520
Unfortunately, I am too lazy to do that.
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>>8123539
if the 3d style is baking in too much you're overcooking it or using settings better suited for a style lora over a character lora. other thing you can do to help fix it is ipadapter or i2i the 3d images and use the non-3d'd outputs as part of your dataset to even it out
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>>8123462
>spitebake with old op format
down to a T
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>>8123539
What the anon said but you can also reduce the amount of pictures to only the most essential and it should learn the details without taking too much of the style. As a last resort try the copier method.
https://rentry.org/Copier_Method_Notes
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The drama never ends with this general.
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>>8123552
thanks for the useless post
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Apparently being able to generate their own porn makes people very resentful
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>>8123554
There's seven fingers on that hand.
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>>8123553
Of course it was useful. I got (You) to reply.
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Guys, are elves ACTUALLY pure?
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>>8123559
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see that cfg scale.
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>>8123560
>born from vengeful spirits of felled trees
You tell me?
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>>8123555
Nothing a good pair of wire cutters can't solve
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>>8123502
Let us know what you come up with. I just got around to implementing koyha hiresfix into my workflow so I'm interested to see how big of an improvement there is.
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>>8123572
Civitai Lora?
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>>8123570
Okay I think I managed something with a lot of help of Claude. I'm not even sure if it works as supposed though, but it is adapter to forge code.

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/37471b59384e3a7f66ecd917f2dab6bfaffbcd42

If improvements please send a PR, I really don't understand what I did there
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>>8123578
>Honjou_Raita_PonyXL_style_v01
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>>8123580
thanks.
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what the fuck is this shit
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>>8123579
Thanks, looks really good from my first gen with it. Now I must combine them...
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>>8123587
Added MSW/MSA now. I'm not sure what I'm doing, but it comes from the comfy extension.

If it works, maybe I can kinda know how to import some comfy extensions.
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>>8123587
I don't know what I was expecting
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>>8123590
That kinda look artistic kek
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>>8123585
This is Sparta
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>>8123587
>>8123579
>>8123590
am i retarded? how do i use it?
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>>8123596
All I did was git pull and turn it on. It was just a drop in replacement for koyha hiresfix.
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>>8123596
I just enabled it and it genned, now I'm on dev_upstream branch.

Let me try if it works as expected on main branch.
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>>8123595
no this is Raita
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>>8123596
Okay yeah it fails on main, it's because it uses the old forge openaimodel diffusion models. Let me see what happens if I just update this file (to see if it breaks other parts of the code)
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>>8123600
ah, i was on main, doesn't work there, it works on dev_upstream though
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>>8123579
>>8123587
What's the writeup on this, like what settings?
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>>8123605
I've kept everything very close to default settings so far but I'm slowly experimenting with each setting.
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>>8123589
So when I pulled koyha hiresfix stopped working. Can you check this out?
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>>8123611
Was trying to figure out what the fuck it does but remembered anon mentioned kohya hi-res. I guess it keeps detail clarity for your picture while genning at a higher base res for the pic, removing the need for upscaling I guess? Tried some 1.5x sizes on my normal like I would an upscale and they're fine.
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>>8123614
Yeah that's exactly what it's doing I think, the documentation is so shit you can't tell what they're doing. I swear I feel illiterate whenever I see these massive writeups on new shit on github but there's nothing there telling me what it does or steps. Like people just throwing rocks at the wall til they made a spark. Have no idea what any of these settings do and I can't tell from their github either.
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>>8123613
Gonna check, but it shouldn't affect in anything related to kohya, since it is a separate extension. Did it work before adding this new thing?

>>8123605
I won't lie anon, I just ported it with the setting that comfy uses haha

>>8123603
I will try to adapt it to the main branch, but if I can't I guess I will just disable it there.
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>>8123560
fix her arm pit and her right arm bending and you've got a image.
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>>8123614
I actually use it in tandem with highresfix (not the koyha one)
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>>8123622
Yeah nah I can't blame you it's just AI "devs" luck into something and are so obtuse about it's actual use you can only speculate.
>look what we did
>what does it do / what are these settings
>Anyway...
It sharpens hte image a lot with smea which is a good thing already just there's nothing I see about these settings. Guess I hunt comfy reddit and see if they experimented more there.
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>>8123624
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>>8123624
why? isn't the whole point to gen at high res natively?
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>no tag between flat_chest and small_breasts
>it's either 2by4 or B-cup
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>>8123628
Because no one told me that and I'm retarded
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>>8121887
>>8121713
boxes please?
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>>8123632
It's nai, the prompts are stealth png.

They are inpainted but simply remove any tags before solo to recover the base prompts.
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>>8123636
thanks
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>>8123622
(me) couldn't make it work on main (because it doesn't have upstream comfy changes), so it is forced to be disabled there. on dev_upstream it is fine

that means the extension wouldn't work on OG forge for the same reason
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>>8123644
I'm having some weird behavior when I toggle the extension. disabling RAUNet after it's been enabled doesn't actually disable it
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>>8123646
Note this is why I was thinking RAUNet was messing with koyha hiresfix because the two are not compatible
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>>8123646
Oh nice catch, it seems it keeps the unet patched after enabling it. Let me see how to fix this.
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>>8123651
hot
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>>8123646
>>8123647
Okay fixed it

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/030033a422421cb9ac6348a77a28e4e872625c3f

Also it seems msw msa doesn't seem to do anything, but that was happening before as well (I rhink)
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Anyone have recommended program to scrap images from pixiv?
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I would like to see some gens where the male is small please
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I would like to see some gens where the female is small please
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>>8123658
Weak bait janny, weak bait
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>Use a character lora
>gen insist on being so zoomed in the head is cropped out most of the time
>literally cant do anything coherent because its like (close-up:2) is embed into the lora
What kind of bullshit is this again
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>>8123662
slopped loras by retards
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>>8123654
Can confirm RAUNet is fixed and MSW-MSA does not work.
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>>8123662
maybe do an x/y on it's block weights? Probably not salvageable though
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>>8123663
>>8123665
I mean I dont even get how that happens and the picture in the gallery for the lora looks fine so its something on my end but without the lora activated the gen are fine
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>>8123667
check their prompt? might just be a low weight or something
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>>8123667
for some shit loras the pics in the gallery look ok because they're closer to the dataset but once you do anything slightly different it doesn't work at all
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>>8123624
Could someone try this? I swear it produces higher detail images than just genning at the final resolution.
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>>8123671
Of course doing hiresfix with a x2 upscale give more details?
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>>8123674
yes but in comparison to genning at the final resolution while using REANet should give a similar amount of details
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>>8123675
RAUNet*
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>>8123669
>>8123670
I mean my prompt is just 1 girl, looking at viewer, with no lora and no neg
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>>8123671
I also feel it gives a lot of detail, not sure if is expected
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there's no xyz plot for end time but I'm currently working through 0.05 steps at a time to see what works
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>>8123657

This worked out the box. Has an auto authenticate login in advanced settings for Pixiv scraping.

https://github.com/KJHJason/Cultured-Downloader
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The slop threads in trash are unironically better than this thread in every way now. More images in more styles, much less content or style bitching, people actually posting fucking content, less janny faggotry and way less wannabe jannies. People just scroll past content they don't like and engage with the content they do instead of throwing a shitfit. Can you imagine it?
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>>8123692
The only content I still do like in this thread comes from NAI users.
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>>8123695
i second that
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>>8123692
Go back to them then you whiny faggot
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I wish we had a thread that was purely for discussion of new tech, lora creation, training and the like. You'd think /g/ would be that but /hdg/ is comparatively more knowledgeable/helpful, even with the recent crapshoot. Plus our discord drama and schizo posting has nothing on the faggotry there.
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>>8123701
I'm already gone, along with everyone else.. Enjoy your dead thread. Down from 3 threads a day to what, 1 every 2.5 days? 5 gens in the last 3 hours? And less and less gens every day.
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>>8123704
>discussion of new tech, lora creation, training and the like
I mean what's even the point if no one goes big. No one ITT can explain how diffusion works in detail, even.
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>>8123705
If you were so happy with trash you wouldn't have to post here about it, rope, seethe, dilate and go back
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>>8123706
I don't really care if each individual can explain autistic details, I like finding and trying new things and tweaking my lora settings with other anons. even if they only know what they know by pure luck of the draw from throwing settings at the wall to see what sticks, I want to learn from that
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>>8123704
One would think this kind of vitriol would be exclusive to /b/ but this place sure got flooded with the same /g/ autists that fucked up their gen.
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>>8123705
>caring about thread speed
pathetic loser, opinion discarded
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this is probably one of the better threads of the past 3 months even if that's not saying much
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>>8123708
>I don't really care if each individual can explain autistic details
>I like finding and trying new things and tweaking my lora settings with other anons
That's quite a contradiction.
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>>8123712
I wish you a very kind 1 gen a day thread, as you deserve. And it'll be shit, too.
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So after a ton of testing end times on RAUNet I've found that 0.25, 0.4, 0.55 are good values to start with. Also reforge guy, if you're still here, selecting different time modes turns RAUNet off.
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>>8123725
what about blocks? on the jankhidiffusion github it's says that you should use 4,5 on sdxl. is that true?
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>>8123715
finally, /h/ style gen
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I miss 1.5 days
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>>8123725
Will go to sleep so can check tomorrow, you mean moving the sliders turn it off? Man I'm bad a this frontend things. I guess if you disable/enable it it applies the time change?

Was trying to fix msw msa attention but now it's too late (and also failed IoI) It likes the code it says it's being applied but nope.

>>8123680
If someone knows how to do this please send a PR. I think the built it extensions in general (except controlnet) don't have xyz IoI
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>>8123734
Get some sleep, I'll see what I can do about creating a proper bug report
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>>8123729
Testing blocks now, do you mean input or output blocks?
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>>8123720
Honestly, I've tried reading about it and I don't even understand it. I understand that if I change x setting on a lora y will happen, that's all I need to know. I don't understand how pixel noise is compressed then shit back out into an image, don't even really care. It's demons in microchips controlled by sigils and gang signs for all I know.
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>>8123736
NTA but maybe he meant these (pic attached). It is on raunet.py

>>8123735
Yeah gonna sleep now, 4 AM and have been too much coding. Ty anon
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>>8123736
https://github.com/blepping/comfyui_jankhidiffusion?tab=readme-ov-file#applyraunet
no clue
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>>8123720
You don't need to know how to build your own engine to know how to drive a car. You don't need to know how to build a motherboard to enjoy discussing PC specs. There is no contradiction.
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>>8123623
I don't wanna take up an image slot, but kinda like this? https://files.catbox.moe/ukecpl.png
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Mole on thigh is so hot but I wish I didn't have to gacha so much to get each mole in the right spot.
>>8123732
Nuns.
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>>8123745
I'd tell you about this crazy tech called inpainting but that's probably too far beyond someone whose too stupid to put dark-skinned male in negs
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>>8123746
I don't give a shit retard, that's why I put it in positive and put interracial for good measure.
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>>8123740
looks like he recommends (3,5) and (6,2) for sdxl. (3,5) isn't far off from the default (3,8) but I'd say it's slightly better. (6,2) is a bit weird but I think it has it's uses (maybe at lower end times).
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>>8123744
>I don't wanna take up an image slot
god, please don't worry about that, else we gonna end up with 'these' kind of gens here. >>8123745
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>>8123745
Is this Arti? It's got that same fugly live2d look and horrible posing, I don't want to believe someone gens that intentionally...
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>>8123738
>It's demons in microchips controlled by sigils and gang signs for all I know.
This is why this general is not a good place for technical discussion.
>>8123742
Discussing PC specs is quite literally the same as NAI/pony shitflinging, this is pointless and makes everyone mad.
>There is no contradiction.
There is. The guy wants to discuss the same things over and over and over again for the sake of it, which I believe is called lora autism, but refers to something that breaks this autistic loop as "autistic details".
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>>8123745
Isn't it too early for the schizo poster... Did his parents leave him unsupervised for the night?
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>>8123754
M8 you must have literal autism based on your response. You will never have a place to discuss things that doesn't involve you being shunned for not understanding social nuances, sorry
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>>8123745
please adopt a trip or name so I can filter you, disgusting
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>>8123756
Sorry for being clear about my intentions.
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>>8123754
you sound insufferable desu, don't think I'd want to discuss anything with you.
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its schizo hour i guess
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>>8123760
You had no intentions. All you want is to shit on other people for having interests that don't pertain to yours. You lack the intelligence to even simulate the perspective of others, your input is meaningless.
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>>8123762
no hour is safe anymore... nothing is sacred...
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>>8123730
Wrong post?
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>finally have to git pull my stable installation because I want to mess with DoRA
>breaks install entirely and I need to purge venv and redownload all packages again
>now it launches but half my extensions are still broken even after updating all of them
>will probably need to do a full clean reinstall and move models/loras over or symlink
>will probably later find out some extensions I like were abandoned and now I have to maintain an old install as well or patch them myself
Every. Fucking. Time.
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>>8123771
just use anons forge fork instead
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>>8123768
no, but this one >>8123510 passes too
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>>8123619
>>8123614
Any specific model or lora for this simple style or is it a chara lora?
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It's gonna take a lot more testing but this is what I've come up with for RAUNet so far.
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>>8123763
>All you want is to shit on other people for having interests that don't pertain to yours.
lmao, completely unaware. The reason the open source AI is in the state it is is that any public place is haunted by complete tech illiterate tasteless autists who weren't even able to install Python without being held by hand and leech on whoever serves a plate before them filled with delicious (ces, gpo:1.3). And the plate part is important, because if there's no plate then no autist would look the delicacies way. It wouldn't surprise me if the OP was happily shilling AnyLoRA at the time or any other stupid ass shit. There's simply no need to put myself into the perspective of his.
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>>8123774
Check real artists some time, shading is not a western technique
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somehow this went from the most interesting tech in the world to the most boring in the span of year. it just all looks the same now
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>>8123782
thank ponyfucker for that
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>>8123779
no one cares about your effort trolling give it up. id literally rather read more discord drama at than have to skim through this spewage.
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>>8123781
sorry for not giving (You) to your gens miqoanon
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>>8123704
>recent crapshoot
People have been saying "recent" for months. It has actually been full of spite and shitposting right since November. The gens became better with NAI and pony compared to 1.5 times, sure, but oldfag anons were right, unleaked superior closed weight hentai model indeed broke this general apart.
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>>8123782
All porn looks boring to me now.
I've transcended

I just come here to see if there's a breakthrough
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>>8123778

Doing gods work, anon. I hope you arrive at a good setting and share the results.
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>>8123791
Same desu. Its nogenner summer
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I've heard all AI developments happen in Australia.
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>>8123788
Not the acoposter
I'm just raising attention at this AI thing completely destroying your aesthetic perception. Go check some commission artists. Simple cel shading shading is rare because it's cheap and novice shit. Stop looking at gens for a while and you'll get better
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>>8123799
i've looked though enough artist works while curating dataset to start differentiating /h/ and /aco/ works
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>open civitai
>maggot sucked in pussy lora
Alright thats it for the day
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>>8123799
take your own advice.
except look at things that aren't porn. The type of shading you're trying to allude to(more realistic/"detailed" shading) doesn't actually exist much outside of porn.
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>>8123805
>millions of feces type loras
>not a single lora that's makes your gen anime, not shaded samefaces 2.9d uglyshit
yeah i think we do not deserve better
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>>8123754
facts
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>>8123808
skill issue
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>>8123802
Well, I've checked tens of thousands of artwork to copy and adapt my style and I can tell you: Hentai artists are not allergic to detail, specially so for the good ones.
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>>8123811
>no gen
like clockwork
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>>8123813
>no gen either
like cockwork
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>>8123806
Outside of porn you get even more stylized and painterly stuff, although less technical since that's not the focus. I am talking about porn artists though.
The point is shading style has fuckall to do with hentai or western. It's a neutral thing
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>>8123809
I still genuinely hope he kills himself, honestly. Autists like that are subhuman defects and have no place in society.
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>>8123814
i suppose every single /hdg/ poster with their ponyslop also is a case of skill issue, right?
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>>8123817
skill and taste since a lot of people seems content with their gen otherwise they wouldnt be posting it
>still nogen of his superior work
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Stop being faggots
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finger count check passes
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>>8123821
Why does she have 6 fingers?
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first time I've come back to 4chan in months and first posts I read are of someone with the critical thinking skills of an aborted fetus left out to rot in the summer heat saying you can't talk about loras unless you're participating in research papers on AI. I'm leaving again what a shit hole this has become.
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>>8123791
i still have fun mining for artist galleries on sadpanda. i've stopped really even caring about content, i just see a cool style and go "that's neat!" and favorite it in hopes of one day being able to train it on a good model.
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>>8123834
So much this. I just want to feel smart pulling levers like a clueless ape, don't you dare call me out.
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>>8123834
>ip count didnt increase
nice larp
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>>8123836
:( I'm at 800 galleries saved now... when can I train...
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>>8123836
You can train on pony.
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>>8123840
>good model.
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>>8123840
kill yourself freetard
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Does anyone else actuyprefer tag based genning and kind of hate that all the new models are focused on natural language captions?
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>>8123845
>actuyprefer
Don't ask what happened there, I don't know.
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>>8123841
>>8123842
You can't articulate what's wrong with pony. If you can't achieve desired style with a lora bake, I'm sorry but that's a skill issue.
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>>8123849
of course model is """good""", its just /aco/ and its next to impossible to make /h/ with it without lobotomizing it severely
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>>8123752
Cophy that
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i threw up
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>>8123854
this
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>>8123852
Very, very nice. Need more posts like this here desu.
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>>8123475
Amazing work
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>>8123854
>beautiful, detail, shaded on the right, better than artist
>blurry melty pathetic artcel parody on the left
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>>8123531
holy shit Saya no Uta
>>8123574
>>8123572
>>8123576
>>8123581
>>8123595
Raita vibes, perfect droopy but perky tits. Ultra fappable!
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>>8123852
>>>/aco/sdg
retard.
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complete freetard obliteration holy shit
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y'know, i'd rather have everyone stay on hll+ef than get my eyes bleached out by ponyslop
fucking astratroon
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>>8123601
>>8123607
BEST GIRL
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>>8123854
>>8123857
>>8123859
>>8123862
>>8123863
there are people itt that doesn't see the difference between those gens
>>8123868
this
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>>8123869
dead girl*
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>>8123821
Did you use a LORA for this spread? Lovely gen
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>>8123870
The ones on the right are better. Better linework, more detailed, masterful shading and have a sexy touch of realism to them.
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>>8123873
>>8123864
bait used to be believable, 7 months ago
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plus the sepia reflects the hot sweltering summer heat. so thematic!
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>>8123732
Garters, turtleneck, negligee, toeless legwear, sleeveless ribbed tops, and the good ol' pleated skirt. Hopefully not all at the same time, though.
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>>8123873
>touch of realism
who the fuck wants that?
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pony gens are good compared to what's being posted on /aco/, but they aren't /h/
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>>8123870
What are you trying to prove and to who you retarded schizo? Imagine wasting your time on this shit
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>>8123733
>set to generate forever
>maybe this time it will come out perfect
>maybe this time
>okay maybe this time
>this time
>this time
>this time
>this time
>this time
>this time
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>>8123884
why are you still bringing up DOA model?
stop shitting up the thread
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>>8123885
yeah need to stop mentioning cascade
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A1111 > NAI
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>88/11690 [04:08<8:41:55]
gonna take a while
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>>8123889
>88/11690
what's that, september's image-to-post ratio?
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>>8123890
multichar lora
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>>8123884
>hunyuan
lesgo, can't wait to use my favourite model that requires a brazillion vram to run
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>>8123896
police violence...
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>>8123792
sorry this took so long but I was messing around with a really interesting seed
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>>8123475
Shame about the grandma ankles.
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>>8123894
ai should target the max vram card, otherwise you're just gimping quality to appease poorfag indians. if you cant afford a good card, just buy nai or civitai generator.
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>>8123901
>nai
no thanks i don't like wearing a cock cage
>civitai generator
kill yourself
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>>8123901
That's the dumbest argument I've heard so far and I hope you jest. AI should strive for optimization, not brute forcing.
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>>8123904
Fuck off, we just need more parameters, everyone knows that
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>>8123905
JUST 5B MORE PARAMETERS TO PRUNE ARTISTS AND LOLI
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>>8123900
got a better result a few seeds later
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>>8123904
This might have sounded smart but not in this context lol
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>>8123904
This so much this
>>8123905
Some papers have proven that just adding more params starts to give in return basically minimal to none improvements when reaching a certain point, what does matter is the quality of your images and how well captioned they are. More =/= better
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>>8123905
nta, your expectation is a mountain of resources being used efficiently.
In practice what you get is lazy development, poor optimization and roughly the same output.
The mountain of hardware is always taken for granted.

See: the whole history of software development
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>>8123909
>>8123910
Remember when retards were screaming that 1.5 is absolutely enough for everything?
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>>8123909
>>8123910
Seethe vramlets, I'll write you a death poem on my 405B localllama
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hunyuan incels raging, kek
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Where can I buy this official magazine?
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hey
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>>8123739
>>8123725
since people are actually getting into this node for reforged here's settings i found as good default, pic related uses them (with ca_end_time tuned up to 0.25)

input_blocks 3
output_blocks 5
start_time 0
end_time 0.6

ca_start_time 0
ca_end_time 0.1
ca_input_blocks 2
ca_output_blocks 7

turning up ca_end_time can change/correction the gen's perspective at the risk of decoherence and frying your shit up but 0.1 seems safe
haven't done in-depth testing of end_time, just found a happy value doing A/B on a few seeds. higher than that is probably worse, lower than that maybe better.
haven't done any testing of this or that blocks other than what the github page recommended at the time

mwsmsa has either severe limitations or bugs in the jankhidiffusion implementation; i favor 1.5X scale gens and it only works reliably at 1024x1024 * 1.5. works fine for more aspect rations at 2X scale. not sure it's even a positive effect when it does work and doesn't provide any performance gains for my gens
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>>8123911
Not the same thing
>>8123912
I'm not a vramlet, I'm just not a baby retard who was born yesterday and expects optimization to scale with hardware like you.
Limited hardware target = optimization
Abundance of hardware = bad optimization out of lazyness

That's just how the world works
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hunyuan will win. plot twist!?? whose that in the comments??? man it feels good to be a 4090GOD
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>>8123918
why don't you use windows 3.0 or some shit? it has such a good optimization it needs just 640 kb of memory
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>>8123920
Bold and retarded of you to assume I use windows
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>>8123907
Much better, nice.
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>>8123918
Go back to baking, jordach, you fall for weak b8 way too easily
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>>8123921
linux has much poorer optimization though
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>>8123924
(you)
faggot
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>>8123926
compared to windows 3.0, retard
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sepia just burned my retina
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>>8123928
because it obviously doesn't have the same functionality, imbecile. What kind of mental slop of an argument are you trying to cook here you rhetorical pygmy
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>>8123898
police must be destroyed
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>>8123931
i'll just wait until your baby mind will find this comparison related to ai
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>>8123929
is sepia in the room with us now?
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>>8123935
Because you realized it's so retarded you don't wanna spell it out.
Here's your stupid argument: >all new stuff inefficent durr

There's well optimized modern software and poorly optimized software.
The poorly optimized bloat of modern software only exists out of the lazyness mentioned posts above.
Good optimization or bad optimization is a matter of target. Stuff is always "good enough" as a rule of thumb.
Now take your 90iq hot takes out of this cesspit
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>>8123941
you got it completely wrong, lmao
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It hurts so much, bros...
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>>8123936
yeah two posts above mine
as is in every pony image posted here
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>>8123942
Yet you can't elaborate.
>I-I was only pretending to be retarded, I-I have the perfect retort b-but you can't know it h-haha

Why the fuck save face on an anonymous basket weaving forum?
cringe faggot
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>>8123943
why is there a harem role
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>>8123946
Why wouldn't there be a harem role? Astra is a savage man
>>
tier list:
S TIER:
Dalle-3, able to generate anime and nudity without a finetune. Truly the god of all models
A TIER:
NovelAIv3, has the best style, character knowledge, and creativity, but is still limited by the crappy SDXL base model
C TIER:
AutismMix, manages to salvage the shitheap that is PonyDiffusion
D TIER:
PonyDiffusion, garbage aesthetic that can't be saved, trash anatomy and ugly colors that require extensive tools to 'fix'. "Heh, at least we aren't still using 1.5 r-right?"
F TIER:
Cascade, epoch after epoch and still worse than aomslop 1.5
WDV, vaporware censored trollbake only used to give false-hopium to lowly localbeggars
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goooooooooooooooooooooood morning
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>>8123948
you have a jailbreak for dall-e?
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>>8123945
>he continues to make a laughingstock of himself
alright, let me just tell you for the sake of argument since you can't figure it out
small models are trash because they literally don't have enough brainpower
windows 3.0 is so well optimized because, putting it in your words, it obviously doesn't have any functionality, imbecile
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this just in
men make the most inane arguments to entertain themselves
just kiss gaybros
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>>8123948
dunno about dalle one, but pretty much yeah
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>>8123950
dont need one i work for openai
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>>8123951
Ok, not compare a bloated mess like windows vs any linux distro, since you brought it up.

Let me enlighten your deeply melaninated bonobo brain: efficiency is NOT synonymous with functionality
They're two separate things. Functionality is the bare minimum to function. Efficiency is how optimized your resource usage is.

I understand as a normie retard they sound similar since they're both positive words. They're not though. Trust me, I'm smarter than you
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>>8123956
You must know my uncle then
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>>8123948
autism is B tier just for the fact that its local
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>>8123777
It's what happens when I have a fucked up wildcard and it literally just generates literal noise as your prompt. Best recreation I guess is normal score tags, rosa \(pokemon\) and traditional media ballpark.
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NAI is C tier just for the fact that it has no loras
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>>8123565
She looks like Asher
...is it Asher?
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>>8123948
cascade will rise
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>>8123963
perfect boobs size
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>>8123963
I just wanted to know model/loras used
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>tumor riddled futacock
>AND inflationshit
amazing.
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>>8123970
>>AND inflationshit
this
why does a boobjob from her cost 36.7% more than it did last year
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>>8123970
You should post a gen as a palate cleanser
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>>8123967
Cascade means waterfall
If there is one thing that waterfalls dont do, its rise.
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>>8123970
>futacock
Can you explain what this means
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This is a pretty fucking good style lora, I salute the baker.
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>>8123967
i will be fair and say 3.6b has potential to be D tier
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>>8123975
go to ddg and you'll understand immediately.
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>>8123944
it's not really a problem for people using checkpoints newer than the autismmix generation
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>>8123976
kek, 1970 called, they want their graphics back. I'll gen you something UHD once I'm done with my warzone dailies frfr
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>>8123977
Meet potential model!
Someone else make the template im not funny enough for that
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>local schizo fears anything the image gen

>>8123969
None because the wildcard didn't pick any is what I'm telling you. Try traditional media though it's potent.

>>8123975
Man fears aesthetics and any dong larger then 4inches
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>>8123976
Name or link?
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>>8123986
>>8123393
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>>8123989
Thanks bro
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god i love autismmix neutering style into typical ponyslop
i swear to god i'm going to start using base pony as a refiner
fuck this shit
>>
also
>score tag
>works without activation tags
>prodigy
>32/16
maybe i do have a skill issue
but then it's 330 images and 4000 steps
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>>8123992
>i swear to god i'm going to start using base pony as a refiner
>fuck this shit
you should do vice versa, gen with base pony and refine/upscale with autism or whatever shitmix you like
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>>8123957
you seem to have a really weird prejudice against the likes of you, nigger-bro. you seem to fail to understand that efficient <> great. the point of the comparison i made is that while windows 3.0 is efficient, you can't do anything with it, just like you can't with any sub-7b llm because they do not meet any "bare minimum" functionality standard
>not compare a bloated mess like windows vs any linux distro, since you brought it up.
sure, let's compare a bloated mess which is ubuntu desktop to windows server 2022
>Trust me, I'm smarter than you
kek
>>
>there's a difference between "(tag:1.3)," "(tag,:1.3)" and "(tag,:1.3),"
fuck, my autism is tinglling
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>>8123992
use turbo instead
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>>8123992
yes anything
just post some gens, we need them
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>>8123994
yeah, totally, i'd like to get manged anatomy of base pony and sepiaslop of autism, thanks
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>>8123996
there is no real difference, because your gen is not exactly the same due to noise in your prompt doesnt mean it doesnt have the same effect, just like changing your tag order doesnt change what your tag do but will change your gen on the same seed
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>>8123995
win 3.0 = efficient and non functional
Your brain is all fucked up, retard
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>60 images already
stop the count
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>>8123994
>july 2024, niggerbros still don't understand what a refiner is
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>>8124000
very based
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Upscaling it works better than I thought it would
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>>8124002
>win 3.0 = efficient and non functional
you just pulled my words out of my mouth, what are you even argue against?
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>>8124001
sounds like something an agent of the redundant comma mafia would say
>>
Anyway, when did the metadata get improved so much I can lama clean it and then contrast it and it's still preserved?
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likewise
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i thought amputee was /d/
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>>8124017
Amputee?
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>>8124017
We make an exception for that guy because he's old and has dementia
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>>8124003
ngmi bro
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>>8124017
newfag
that's not amputee fetishism, it's a character trait
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>>8124018
it is when a character is missing limbs
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>STILL posting futacock
I don't get it
if you like this garbage so much fuck off to /d/ where you'll see it on every single post
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>>8124024
She is? Never noticed that! I mean she paints so well...
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>>8124017
The guy in /d/ who does amputee would love more friends though.
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>>8124025
I keep seeing your posts and I can't tell if this is your way of trolling or you are genuinely mentally ill
if it's the latter, seek help immediately
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I'm home after all...
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i declare this thread a mental asylum
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>>8124028
this isn't trolling.
I'm genuinely telling you to fuck off. You are unironically posting futashit trying to guise it as "nooo it's totally not I swear!"
Look through /h/ and try to find a SINGLE THREAD with anything resembling your garbage. You won't be able to. Meanwhile if I really wanted to look there'd be several on /d/.
So go where the fuck you belong, retard.
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>>8124028
>I keep seeing your posts
Anon... what post... I think you are the mentally ill one... it's over...
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>>8124035
Nice looking penis
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>and he goes back to posting more futacock
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>>8124032
im fucking dying
based
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>>8124035
Anon, futacock or not, that is just very impractical!
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>>8124036
Local schizo fears the aesthetic penis. Gomenasorry washizu for not posting the 3in phimotic glorious tri-folded nippon penis.

>>8124039
Just needed a selfie real quick.
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>>8124040
>Just needed a selfie real quick.
That's the only thing that this thing is useful for! Imagine getting only a mouthful of tip meat, uegh.
>>
Why you still haven't made a lora out of yourself for proper self-insertion?
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>>8124032
every time you seethe he just posts more, is that your goal?
>this isn't trolling.
meds please
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>>8124044
>lora of yourself
>self insertion
why would i prompt myself getting fucked by myself, that is gay
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>>8124044
Kek it's what the Indians do don't they?
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Lore accurate anon.
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>one tag in seed gives me good left foot
>delete it because it fucks up the other foot
>same composition but now the other foot is fucked
call me a maestro the way i glue these images together kek
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>>8124040
>Local schizo fears the aesthetic penis
I think that's called "not being gay."
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>>8124050
>not being gay
That's purely inefficient
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>>8124047
I'm genuinely surprised most of our anons don't do this.
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>>8124054
How would that work tho
Are you genning femalepov riding yourself? heh
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>>8124054
there's only like 4 people in these threads that know how to bake a lora in the first place though
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>>8124050
Makes sense then for the popular porn of the western world.

>>8124054
>>8124047
/slop/ started it for a little and it's creepy, they stopped it fairly quick though.

>>8124055
They just too a selfie of their junk and ran it through img2img
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>>8124058
>own cock lora for pov gen accuracy
Based or nay?
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>>8124058
>/slop/ started it for a little and it's creepy, they stopped it fairly quick though.
The guys posting gay porn and turning themselves into img2img girls were cooler.
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>>8124060
Based cringe.
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>>8124060
Seems like that gay line, but only if you like another anon's I guess or use another anon's. Then we're hitting cuckoldry levels unseen.

>>8124062
That sounds cooler, /slop/ is a weird place but it's great to yoink prompts off since nobody gives a shit what's posted so see some styles I would've missed.
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>>8124060
only based if accompanied by a lora of your own mother's body for the woman
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>>8124066
>mom please, it's for machine learning, it's like deep science stuff
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>>8124049
>also gluing in a paintbrush that was floating around in one of the failed ones
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>>8124054
I just need to prompt (muscular man:1.8) and its like a mirror reflection
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>>8124071
>(muscular male:0.7), (beer belly:0.95), glasses, {hat|baseball cap|bald spot}, penis, balls, (hairy), tanlines,
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>>8124040
Lmao the midget hand prints get me every time
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>>8124075
I like the idea it just never works out, banging your waifu and the 7 fingered midget comes by and slaps her ass.
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>>8124076
kek'd
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anons i know my gens are amazing but you don't need to be speechless
kek
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is there a good speech bubble yolo model?
want to check before i train one if there is already out there.
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>>8124086
What's a speech bubble yolo?
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>>8124087
lmao
>>8124086
what were you expecting asking this here
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>>8124086
https://civitai.com/models/311872/comic-speech-bubble-detection-adetailer-comicspeechbubblemyolov8
No clue if it's any good
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>>8124019
More like because he's least obnoxious compared to other regulars.
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>>8124091
feetsa
what's that artist?
>>8124095
wow thanks nobody says nice stuff about me
lol
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>>8124097
If no one talks about (You) in any given general - you either in read-only mode or people don't mind your posts. This can be said about tan preggo maid and scarcunny anons aswel.
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How do I get the wildcard tab to appear on reForge?
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>>8124020
Did you inpainted this one a lot? Catbox?
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>>8124097
https://files.catbox.moe/wq69z4.png
https://files.catbox.moe/4nl2it.png
lowres is unarsite. upscale is both unarsite+tianliang fangdong.
the specific lora can be found here
https://mega.nz/folder/Qzc1FJhI#4lPk4d73qphhE5w7hFvRfg
also for reference,
>>8123715
>>8123927
were also made with the same lora.
alternatively, random individual lora's can be found in appropriate directories here
https://mega.nz/folder/FiUlmbaY#THGdabflbUDLMXffz_febQ
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>>8124057
Very based
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>>8124102
Janny is based too
I got banned for her once and it was for supposed loli kek
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>>8124095
there aren't even any regulars, everyone just complains about all the images as if they're some known schizo
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>>8123989
>>8123976
Testing this and I gotta say, I'm impressed.
The composition is just slightly more limited and some concepts it outright ignores. But it's very sturdy and stable.It even retains the retro style even when combined with other loras, concept or style.
Backgrounds are also surprisingly good, very flexible.
This lora is model tier, baker is gourmet class, very pleased.
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>>8124114
I will stress test further
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>>8124115
Finally some fun
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>>8124114
It really is and the config isn't anything weird. Weird luck in ML, eh?
I'm almost tempted to try it but I just rebaked all my loras
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>>8124114
Why the futacock though?
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>>8124117
You the baker?
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>>8124119
No I am simply in awe
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>>8124114
It works surprisingly well without needing much fiddling. What kind of prompts are you using, these are really good.
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>>8124112
There are cathag, miqo and luckypedoposter "regulars". Pretty sure they contribute to good half of schizo posting. Hell, surely one of them were killing thread with melanin-rich male spamming.
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>>8124121
I'll box, sec
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>>8124122
i dont know who any of those people are
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>>8124124
holy fucking based
imagine making up lore headcannons about a 4chan thread
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>>8124123
Can you add stray pubic hairs and smegma, please?
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>>8124121
>>8124123
https://files.catbox.moe/4opoa7.png

Some imperfections. It's a waste to hi-res them but I wonder what multi diffusers will do to them. Need to test.

>>8124127
ok will try
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>>8124114
>>8124115
>>8124116
>>8124119
>>8124123
stop spamming dude
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>>8124129
>Finally someone posts gens
>Spam

Mckill yourself
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>/hdg/ is at the point where even simply posting images is now trolling or spamming
what.
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>>8124129
kill yourself
*epic*
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>>8124130
if you want image spam go to /v/ dalle thread or something
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>>8124131
posting gens with same wife/OC is considered avatarfagging aswel
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>>8124136
it is
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Are there banned prompt?
Banana anal insertion doesn't seem to work no matter what I use as prompt.
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>>8124138
anal object insertion, banana
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>>8123746
>>8123752
>>8123753
>>8123755
>>8123759
Have another :)
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>>8124135
It's an imageboard, if you don't like it don't click on it
Alternatively, commit suicide

>>8124127
Here you go https://files.catbox.moe/q9sl7l.png
not gonna post here just in case a janny is having a bad day

It works, although the pubic hair may be a bit too small for the pixel art, sometimes shows, sometimes doesn't
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>>8124141
based image poster
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>>8124140
That's what I'm using. I even tried to set them to 1.5 and more. Maybe it's just bad luck. I'll try again.
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>>8124140
wonder how [banana|dildo] is gonna work
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i am an avatarfag
problem, nogensirs?
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>>8124144
alternatively you could do [dildo:banana:0.2] or something
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>>8124146
if you want schizos to think you were the spammer and try janning you out of spite - go for it
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Have your brief victory, but the 2k thread will return, it always does
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>>8124122
don't forget (You)rself - the retarded newfag schizo who frequently forgets to take his meds
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>>8124146
Thank you for posting actual content.
Death to Nogens
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textsisters...
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How many steps do you guys use for euler smea dy? I'm using 28 and that seems to work so far
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>>8124114
>the style
>chara lora
>and a concept lora
Shit is powerful and it's some rando prodigy config, I really do kneel.
ahhh i must try it
>>8124156
35
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Still need to figure out how to hi-res properly, but it's starting to get better
Also, imagine going to a image board to complain about someone posting images.
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>>8124102
>scarcunny anon
Hello :)
https://files.catbox.moe/fkef23.jpeg
Having the no (You)'s curse still feels weird, but honestly after seeing the absolute state of this nogen chat thread, I don't mind it at all now
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>>8124161
Bruh I'm pretty sure it's literally the base civit prodigy setup, how did anon mog so badly?
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>>8124165
>5 repeats
bruh i really do not know how this came out that good
but it'd take so fucking long to bake on a bigger dataset i already don't want to do it
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>>8124162
more like complaining about images that you don't like and mental gymnastic xher way for janning or doxxing
ive dipped image posting except for lora previews because of schizo started digging my timezone
>>8124163
you're still here, based
now we need shuten and 3d 2hu NAI posters...
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I summon thee, groidlord!
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>>8124169
Seems like mixing with stronger weight or a more dominant lora smooths out the pixels. Doesn't look bad at all though
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>>8123845
How do you describe top-down bottom-up in natural language?
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>>8123893
>multichar lora
Can you post about it when it finishes?
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>>8124174
top-down bottom-up is the correct tag you can use to prompt with it, but you could also call it face down ass up I guess
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>>8124176
if its not fried - yeah, it will only have kagami and konata though
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>>8124177
>face down ass up
But what I mean is you either have to write an entire sentence to describe a given position or use terms and phrases that not everyone agrees on. With tags you just use the one word someone has arbitrarily decided to call it and keep going. Think shirt tug vs shirt pull.
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Need to start making some more degenerate gens
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what does min snr gamma exactly do?
What does setting it to 1, 5 or 10 do to the lora?
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>>8124181
handsholding with wife is degenerate enough
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>>8124183
>Min-SNR-γ, which adapts loss weights of timesteps based on clamped signal-to-noise ratios, which effectively balances the conflicts among timesteps.
naturally
but in my 1:1 it just made the style less thick at 5
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>>8124168
By the flicker of pixels and the hum of the byte,
Through the whispers of threads that echo at night,
I summon thee, Groid, from your islandic lair,
With your images frivolous, beyond compare.

From the depths of the threads, where chaos does reign,
Bring forth the spams that drive us insane.
With a click of the mouse and a tap of the key,
I beckon your presence, come forth unto me!

By the power of hags, and cunnies alike,
By the lust that flows through this infinite spike,
I conjure your essence, your spirit, your might,
To flood this discussion with nonsense tonight!

All hail Groidlord!
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Post your last pathetic image, racebaiter
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>>8124194
Pumping
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>>8123501
>>8123517
>>8123540
>>8123554
>>8123565
>>8123601
>>8123607
>>8123976
>>8123998
>>8124007
>>8124015
>>8124078
>>8124111
>>8124114
>>8124115
>>8124116
>>8124119
>>8124123
>>8124128
>>8124142
>>8124146
>>8124161
>>8124170
For the love of god, please use this extension: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui-pixelization
tired of seeing pixel art gens with melted pixels. This extension makes everything 'pixel perfect'. May need some cleaning up with some gens, but most of the time it just works.
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To Coom it may concern,

Your gens are awesome and your dialogue isn't cringe. You shouldn't be afraid to lean into your fetishes more in pieces if you really want to. And I hope you see this and know that there are people out there who really appreciate your work. Also, I've found the wizard and cowboy pixivs, but are there any other places you post? I'd be real interested in uncensored stuff especially.

Yours,
Anon
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>>8124198
but this looks like doodoo fadende
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>>8124198
That doesn't look good, anon, no offense
I'll try it, but i don't think this fake pixel art has normalized pixel size, (not that it can) so it won't look good when you do convert it
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>>8124191
my blacked porn collection has no pathetic groids, anon
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>>8124198
I prefer his stuff to yours, so I don't think he needs your advice
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>>8124198
no
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>>8124184
Peak degeneracy
>>8124198
I might test this, but at the moment I'm pretty happy with these "melted pixels"
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>>8124198
based mass replying anon
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Is there an extension or other way I can see the boundary of the 75token blocks in my prompt?
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>>8124213
based proompt overcomplicater
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One mild annoyance with this is sometimes it's pretty hard to break the symmetry.
I'll try a different model and setup
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>>8124198
>pic not related
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why are you guys always angry.
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>>8124221
Who is you talking about
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>>8124221
Berating and dragging down others back into the crab bucket helps me cope with my own shortcomings.
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>>8123989
pretty good at the art of triplets

>>8124198
yeah no offense anon but that extension kinda kills the nice style in favor of a grid that euclid would approve lol
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>>8124225
"Nice style"?..
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>>8124226
subjectively of course, i just don't get off on biblically accurate pixels is all i'm trying to say
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>>8124216
you either need controlnet, regional prompting or photoshop-tsu to make >1girl gens asymmetrical
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>>8124226
mhm
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>>8124228
Cute! And cock shock makes her look even cuter!!
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>>8124225
Why is her womb so close to the entrance? How would a big bro like me even fit inside her?:(
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>>8124234
it's literally in her intestines it should be much lower if anything
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>>8124029
is that the fucking princess from wario land 4
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>one style lora saved /hdg/
I kneel.
>>8124236
A man of culture here
Indeed it is
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>>8124227
Yeah... surely. Subjective.
Absolute state of /hdg/
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>>8124228
This looks too ai-generated, the point is to make it look like a human drew it.
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>anon got so assblasted by nobody liking his pic he hates that people are having fun
love to see it
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God I love holding hands
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>>8124237
you can stop samefagging any minute bwo
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>>8124241
Her arms look too short for her body.
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>>8124237
is that the fucking snake from monster musume no iru nichijou?!
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was that the bite of 87?
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>>8123441
sumimasen could you share loras used here please?
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>>8124239
meh, the point is to make porn you like
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>>8124249
https://civitai.com/models/393322
https://civitai.com/models/432511/low-light-for-pony
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>>8124250
This, just gen what you like =) Enjoy yourselves and share pics bros who cares :) the more cat goddess pictures the better =D
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okay, since pony backgrounds are so atrocious, why haven't we got a decent blurry depth of field background lora yet (with bokeh and stuff)
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>>8124256
Just prompt it? Pony knows what depth of field is, right......?
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>>8124258
yeah right
the blur is just as disgusting as the backgrounds it's trying to hide
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>>8124253
how did you even generate anime with that lora, all examples are realism... thanks
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>>8124254
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>>8124256
>wanting backgrounds in the first place
pure acoslop, go back
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>>8124260
(m-da s-tarou:0)
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>>8124261
ahhh ahhhh im gooning for mistress
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>>8124250
Futacock bros...
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>>8124263
prompt study time
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>>8124267
cringe
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>>8124267
(japanese artist:0) or at low power is a hack for anime that works better than source_anime
and if it still looks too western 3d in negs helps further
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>>8124273
I prompted japanese artists, added "3d" to negs, but it still looks like a western cartoon. Should I increase tag strength to overcome this? Using autismmix.
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b-chan...
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what caused the decline?
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We are so BACK
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>>8124279
This pic is too 3D and uncanny.
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>>8124280
/h/?
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>>8124274
play around with it
also i recommend midkemia or wai ani checkpoints
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>>8124274
Just wait for Waifu Diffusion and make LoRAs you need. There is no sense to fuck with western style furry models.
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>>8124283
midkemia has a realism bias so i wouldn't recommend it to an anon looking for anime styles
you could try reweik or ebara instead
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>>8124284
Good enough for /hdg/
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>>8124282
/h/?
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>>8124286
well it's the checkpoint i used for the image he was curious about >>8124263
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Nogenfu is back!
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>>8124285
i am not going to wait for a model with censored loli content
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>>8124183
This may not be 100% accurate but this is how I understand it. And to understand what it does you would need to understand what timesteps are first.
You train a model step-by-step. Let's pick a number, say 0. It will represent the image that contains nothing but noise. Let's pick another number, say 1. This will be considered a fully denoised image. Everything inbetween is a just an image with an added noise. Let's stretch this 0..1 range to 0..1000, since that's what SD uses. So 0 is noise, 1 is the image, and 500 is half-noise, half-image. To train a model, you pick a random image and add a random amount of noise to it, say up to 345 timestep. So the consists of 1 - 0.345 or 65.5% of noise. Then you make U-net predict how the timestep 346 would look like, and as a result of that you get a loss and update the weights with it.

The problem is, across all the timesteps (0->1, 800->801, etc), the loss updates the model by the same amount, but MinSNR paper found that it is not the most efficient way to do this since at each timestep the model does different things, i.e. in the beginning it focuses on composition, later on details. They proposed scaling the loss based on the timestep, in order to prevent the model focusing too much on details and more on composition, since that's the most difficult task. The exact general formula is:
loss multiplier = min(SNR(timestep), gamma)

As I understand it, it "caps" the loss past certain timestep (picrel from debiased estimation paper), the exact SNR values depend on the noise scheduler (which is not important in our context). The most important part is, the larger the gamma is, the higher the cap is, which means the higher gamma is, the larger the loss is on higher timesteps, which means you train harder on details. The smaller gamma is, the smaller the cap is, the less you train on details.

tl;dr:
large gamma = more details
small gamma = less details
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>>8124293
you don't need to wait for a model that will never exist anyways
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>>8124296
it's fucking hilarious that the saas closed source model is more uncensored than any "open" local model made by autists
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>>8122717
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>>8124294
Also I'm not sure how they are supposed to balance the fact that the model trains less overall with smaller gamma, so I suppose you should increase the LR if you want to try using smaller gamma.
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hadnt done much with reweik but it looks ok from a spot check
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>>8124294
This guy knows his shit, a perfect balance of math and regular English so that anyone who has a basic understanding of ML can understand it
Thanks anon
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>>8124274
try 3d and realistic in negs
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>>8124297
Whether you hate NAI or not, this is absolutely crazy. Open source has always been associated with freedom and lack of censorship, and here we are, fucked by ethicsfaggotry and nonsensical country laws, meanwhile a SaaS corpo is racking in cash, giving no fucks about muh moralfag feefees.
This won't last though, no way. But it really is bizarre.
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>shitty html sex rpg vibes
SOVL
>>8124301
That style also looks familiar, what is it? Good image.
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>>8124308
no style
pos:
score_9, darkness konosuba, standing split, leg up, thong cameltoe, micro bikini, narrow waist, juice drip, pubic hair, long hair, embarrassed, large breasts, (abs:0), skinny, blonde

,(source_pony:-1),

neg:
3d
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>>8124183
ignore min SNR
use debiased estimation loss instead.
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>>8124301
nice one
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You can make the pixels more pixelated by...
you're never gonna guess.

Add "pixel art" to your prompt

Although small more subtle pixels can be nice as well
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>>8124310
das pretty damn good
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>>8124316
looks pretty bad anon
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>>8124316
Looks great anon, although I do like the smol pixels
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>>8124321
Too realistic.
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>>8124316
>needing a lora for pixel art
You were always able to just prompt for it.
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>>8124321
NAI slopmix lora?
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>>8124316
>>8124321
why are those so fucking blurry?
>jpg
oh
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pony can't do pixel at all wtf.
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>>8124316
https://civitai.com/models/463446/katorthoma
used this checkpoint?
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>>8124321
I love this.
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>>8124321
I like the face
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>>8124331
OHHH COOMING
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>>8124327
But it looks good even like that
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>>8124331
pumping
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>>8124327
Cascade do better, lol. Or you forgot to remove score tags.
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Wild Horny Lamia Lv.25 Appeared!
What do:
>Sex!
>Sex! <--------
Flee! (LOCKED)
>Sex!
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>>8124326
It's lossless. Let your shitty internet load it properly
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>>8124352
lossless jpeg doesn't exist
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>>8124294
Nice pixels.
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>>8124344
it sure does!
this is what jordach considers "near perfect pixel art", for example: https://files.catbox.moe/mr3x4w.png
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>>8124359
i mean dats sovl
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BlursepiaGOD, I kneel
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>>8124328
Reweik for that one

>>8124356
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossless_JPEG
lrn2 manually control file compression
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Herro :3
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Cascade E8 just released
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>>8124359
Wow, yeah, this is very good! It's just not finished, because generating a finished work is lazy. You should draw the rest yourself if you aren't satisfied with cascade output.
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Make some img2videos. Though it kind of sucks with undetailed anime
https://klingai.com/
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>>8124284
fantastic, box please
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>>8124366
I want to release my load into a cute sweaty anime girl
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>>8124294
what is the noise scheduler
in sd-scripts, it selects a timestep randomly, does that mean that there is a separate decision on how much noise to add apart from that
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>>8124239
>the point is to make it look like a human drew it
congratulations, that's the most retarded thing i've heard all month
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>>8123462
Anyone knew any nsfw alternative for Animagine XL model? There's a character lora I really want to use but it's only for Pony models.regular xl/sdxl model seems pretty bad at handling nsfw/sex stuffs
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>>8124372
based hex enjoyer
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>>8124379
>nsfw alternative for Animagine XL
this general would jump on it immediately, just use NAI if you want /h/ NSFW gens
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>>8124381
>>8124382
gooning.
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>>8124377
No it's not you moron. This is why localjeets spam their shitty gens everywhere, because you miss this simple concept.
If you aren't trying to make your gens look like they aren't AI, you fail, and they will always look like shit.
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1girl, standing, smile, nude, ai-generated
problem, nogen?
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>>8124385
In the immortal words of Kohaku BlueLeaf: "AI art should be looked like AI, not like humans."
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>>8124383
I know, but I really want to use this one character lora for nsfw stuff (she's pretty niche, I only found one on civitai and nowhere else), sadly it's not compatible with pony
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>>8124386
*dicks starts exploding*
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>>8124388
make your own lora then, thats what i did with lucky star chars
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>>8124388
who is your girl anon, I bet someone will remake her for pony
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>>8124388
train a new lora yourself
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>>8124385
sir my cat mistress looks better than any artists.
they simply can't compete with level of lighting, detail and shading that pony ai is able to put out on such short notice.
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>>8124385
mmd gens must look like they're human drawn
photorealistic gens must look like they're human drawn
artists who draw extremely realistic images do so in order to make them look like they're drawn by a human rather than a photo
"the point" and intent are universal singular thing that apply to everyone at once
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>>8124394
Yet it still looks like plastic shit, and anyone who isn't a localturd will look at it and say "this looks like shit"
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>>8124397
>mmd gens
>photorealistic gens
sir this is a hentai board
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>>8124375
Frankly, I don't quite understand how SNR function works for diffusion models, but that really isn't that important to understand MinSNR. I've tried digging through the math but ultimately gave up. Seems like it's a general concept and to apply it to diffusion models you'd have to jump through like 10 mathematical hoops which is not something I'm willing to do yet.
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>>8124398
don't you dare insult mistress you paypig
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>>8124394
Can confirm
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>>8124399
surely Hatsune Miku hentai animations are /h/
there are MMD threads on /e/
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Daily Naigger seeth?
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>>8124399
how new
>>8064721
>>8089019
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Fun fact: every time you post a gen, a nogen gets a prion inside their brain matter!
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>>8124386
not 1.5 enough
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>>8124412
The pussy is not gore, so I agree.
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>>8124409
But what's the point of posting a censored gen..
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>>8124414
so a nogen gets a prion in their brain duh
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>>8124414
He's a retarded slopper
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better to cum in the slop than to slop in the cum
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>>8124414
You wouldn't get the true hentai experience
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>>8124421
I REALLY REALLY LIKE THIS IMAGE
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>>8124424
please stop samefagging
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>>8124424
>>8124425
erm samefag
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Samefagsisters, I don't feel so good
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>>8124424
You might like cascade 1b, it looks exactly like that!
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>>8124422
This but unironically. Censorship is literally a core feature of REAL hentai. You aren't some fraudster trying to pass off his /aco/ slop as /h/, are you? Add those mosaic and bar censor tags to your prompt RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
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DO YOU LISTEN TO ME
SIRS DO NOT—
DO NOT CUMMMM-INd
DO NOT CUMMIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>8124430
Hey I've seen a similar post before. Textfag sisters, generate something new??
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>>8124435
thank you very much
absolutely wonderful
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i mean i fully agree
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>>8124442
She has 1 boob.
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>>8124430
>add those mosaic and bar censor tags to your prompt
the fuck kind of casual are you
if you're not taking your shit into photoshop and personally hand drawing/placing censors appropriately you're a fucking hackfraud.
Or, better yet, just managing to do a proper convenient censor instead to save you even that trouble.
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>>8124443
And you got no ballz
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>>8124431
The cum was redeemed. And there was nothing that nogens could do about it
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>>8124422
>>8124430
Bar censoring is unironically kino when done right.
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>>8124435
Isn't that the dude making gobbo porn but it's all weird cuckolding?
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>>8124424
I LIKE IT TOO
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OH MY GOD THOSE ARE MY FAVORITE PANTS
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>>8124450
My bad pic not related I didnt mean to post this one sorry guys
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>>8120310
>>8120251
It's this https://civitai.com/models/400329/pvc-style-modelmovable-figure-model-pony
pony mix that turns everything into figures, including loras of all kinds and innate styles. With "mjm" prompt which is hashed Zankuro.
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>>8124445
>exposed butthole
>convenient censor
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nyooo sirs i only have two gold pieces on me
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>>8124454
>disregard that i suck cocks trolling in 2024
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>>8124462
THEN PAY WITH YOUR BODY
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How to make handjob interesting, shit is boring as fuck to gen
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>>8124462
Give me your hat.
>>8124464
lame
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>>8124456
itd be perfect without the eyebrows bleeding through
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>>8124464
merciful sirs
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>>8124457
the anus is not subject to nihongo censorship laws unless it's being actively penetrated(generally in a sexual context).
Exposed anus? Perfectly fine.
Anus with a dildo or penis actively penetrating it? You'll need probably at least 3 bars(maybe only one or two if it's at an odd angle) along the outer perimeter and the dick/dildo will need to be mosaic'd.
Gaping anus post-anal with cum leaking out of it? Perfectly fine, no censor required.
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>>8124471
Perfect
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>>8124464
>>8124466
>>8124471
both bros got what they wanted eh
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>>8124472
I want to add that you have to censor excessive cameltoe
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>>8124471
>no hat
Based.
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>>8124472
Anus censorship connoisseur over here
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>>8124472
We got the anal censorship authority over ere
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>>8124468
Yeah, it was just a throwaway gen. Needs adetailer for eyes too and removing the golden pipe coming out of her neck.
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also speaking of "real hentai" i should scrape a few doujins i like and bake em to see what they'll turn out
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>>8124478
Not exactly.
The vagina has weird censoring restrictions. At all times you need to censor the clitoris and the actual entrance. The urethra and outer folds are perfectly A-OKAY and legal, though.
>>8124472
Also here's an example of having to censor anal penetration.
>>8124482
>>8124481
Look, it's really useful to know the general laws in this area. The more you know them the more you can learn to skirt them and use them in a more appealing fashion.
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>spend an hour trying to fix "nontype object is not iterable" error for prompt s/r
I genuinely hate the third rate programmer that's responsible for this shit script. have a space? oops doesn't work. lora is a different name from the actual file name? oops doesn't work. fuck this shit.
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>>8124487
i wish the additional networks simple xyz button got finally reimplemented
i told reforge anon
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>>8124485
I got my account locked on pixiv for a cameltoe so who knows
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>>8124400
yeah i can kinda understand each part, especially when claude or an llm translates it to code, but its often hard to visualize as a whole
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>>8124492
that fuckin anger mark on the right made me lauf
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>>8124198
I tried it but holy shit is this crap vram hungry
I was expecting it to be upscaler tier.
I guess it would work by offloading the main model, but nah.
I wanted to see how it'd look with a high res source (just to try)
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>>8124488
at least I'll know what's wrong if the error wasn't so shit. like what fucking line is line 58??? instead of making me scroll up, print that shit goddamn.
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>>8124507
i still don't get what was the point of that error when it applies to anything and everything and the actual cause is up
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>>8124491
well, to further add about the 'cameltoe' sort of thing, it can get kind of weird/murky and really wishy-washy. The important part is, again, the clitoris. You can "kind of" skirt it by just having a fully enveloped slit with no pronounced features but that's honestly kind of a gamble because these things are really left up to random whims.
Realistically you just need a form of censor where the clit should be, anatomically, and you should be good. It doesn't need to be huge or super fancy. A small heart in the general area like you see on >>8124472 is fine.
The whole censorship law situation is actually really vague on what is the real "acceptable" level of minimum censorship. Which is why you'll find really weird varying amounts of it across thinbooks by different artists over the years. Some go real hard on it, some try and do their best to make things as effectively uncensored as they can(think bar censors with two completely different tones of black, with the figure linework with a darker tone than the bar). I think a lot of publishers end up trying to push things as far as they can until some government body gets wise and tries to slap them, then they'll tighten things down and slowly ease back up over time.
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Multidiff upscaling on pixel is trash
Who would've known?
The charm is to keep low res, but sometimes details are off. Inpainting is probably overkill. Anyone post processing this in any way?
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>>8124510
i just img2img after upscaling with nomos
works well enough for rin so
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>>8124511
Does that reconstruct fucked up bits?
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>>8124509
Yeah, right, is that how the censorship is mandated or do they skirt around the actual meaning of the law with the pixel perfect bars? Interesting.
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>>8124512
well yeah it's like any other inpainting and upscaling
>>8124372
>>8124350
>>8124308
etc
at least with the pixels i don't have to clean and inpaint THAT much
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>>8124515
It looks like it smooths them quite a bit.
I am aware of the contradiction on wanting clean but rough pixel art.
Maybe it's fine in low res.
I'll try your method with added "pixel art"
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>>8124518
lowres really is fine with that stuff
it's completely inpaintable tho so go for it
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>>8124431
This happens on the subcontinent of india 100000 times a day and you can do nothing about it
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>batch count set to 1
>batch size set to 1
>Y-type set to seed
>'nonetype' object is not iterable

>Y-type set to Nothing
>suddenly starts genning
the fuck
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>>8124528
you can't iterate through a nonexistent list of seeds anon
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>>8124529
I have the parameter set to -1 and it ends without a comma.
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>>8124513
really depends on what, why or who is doing the censoring.
The large, wide-release print skin mags tend to go pretty heavy and censor full genital regions because it's the easiest(though you'll still find the anus to be left untouched).
Thinbooks released at comiket are generally a bit more lax but still have to censor it, since the small-time print houses they use are still culpable/on the hook for giving it a pass. A lot of it kind of turns into a tight-rope act; the more exposure you have the more careful you have to be.
Ultimately you could end up doing a ton of really thin boxy-bars around a lot of specific things but that also ends up being pretty ugly and not worth the effort. And again, the laws are REALLY VAGUE. And trying to find super specific information is also pretty rough(again, because it's so vague). Which, that said, my advice on trying to do things the bare minimum does contain the inherent risk that it may actually "not be enough" to whoever is charged to review something if it gets too much attention. Though I can, with 100% confidence, say that the stuff mentioned about the anus is absolutely safe to follow(again, even the larger skinmag publishers follow those guidelines).
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>>8124520
Yeah.

So I think a safe method is to anytest normal gens and add "pixel art, 2d,cel shading" to intensify the effect (too smooth otherwise). Example in question
>>8124414 (not my gen) to pic rel
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>>8124539
Adding pixel art to the prompt adds extra sepia though
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>>8124510
catbox?
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ACCELERANDO
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>>8124198
I'm just as confused as you since pony can do pixel art natively. I really don't understand what all the fuss is about.
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>>8124029
Post another paizuri bro
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>>8124044
Because I can just prompt ugly bastard and get an accurate representation.
>>8124074
This guy fucks.
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>>8124261
box?
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>>8124385
>>8124239
This is like saying a painting looks too painted, you should make it look more like a pencil drawing.
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what do I prompt if I want to achieve a pov hand pulling down a characters shirt/dress so her tits pop out? I got the pov hand part down but it's really hard to get it to actually pull on her clothes instead of just grabbing her hair or tits or arm
I tried
>pulling on clothes
>pulling clothes down
>grabbing clothes
>assisted exposure
but they're not doing the trick very well and I'm struggling to think of more ways to describe this
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>>8124399
>umemaro is not /h/
based retard
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>>8124443
I love amazons thoughbeit
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>>8124583
should just prompt
>blank background, simple background
>simple shading
to get like 99% of what "actual" artists draw lmao
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>>8124575
Come on anon, I'm pretty sure that's not your only traits. At the very least you have stuff like eyes, neck, arms or legs, and, most importantly, your huge and veiny cock. AI will catch this much more accurately that whatever the words can describe.
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>>8124584
lora or cn
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>>8124595
He lifts the clothes to find out to his horror that there's no nipples!
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>>8124557
Contains pointless tags that are ignored by the lora. I was experimenting
https://files.catbox.moe/8nffy3.png
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>>8124294
So just to be clear, min snr gamma at 5 is better for details than at 0? I wonder why anons were saying this was retarded.
>>8124313
In my experience debiased estimation loss improves colors (which kohya says it would) yet is worse for details.
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>>8124581
https://files.catbox.moe/ytpd3i.png
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>>8124573
With whomst? Shokora?
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>>8124606
It's not "better", it just trains the details more vigorously at 5 than let's say 1.
>at 0
It will just stop working and the weights won't be updated because you multiply the loss by 0.
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>>8124615
By zero I meant using it vs not using it at all. If it actually improves details I don't see why everyone isn't using it for everything except maybe concept loras.
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>>8124610
Any. Paizuri under clothes is great.
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>>8124619
most people do use >0 min snr gamma
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>>8124619
i use it for concepts but at a gentler level
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>>8124430
I'll just prompt mizumizuni and get the bar censors for free.
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(10)
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>>8124619
well, the whole "ignore SNR, use debiased estimation loss" is a reason to not use it at all, considering you shouldn't use debiased with min SNR enabled.
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Do any of you guys take paid commissions?
People have asked me before and I always decline because I don't know if it's considered scummy to take money for AI art.
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>>8124628
Ok man that's just gay
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>>8124605
Thanks, I was looking to study it anyways, I liked the overall style that you managed to get.
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>>8124628
why are you so obsessed with cocks? Just step out of the closet and fuck off to /y/ already if you love gigantic dicks that much.
why you think that shit belongs here is actually beyond me.
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>>8124630
Yes, I have made $10k in the past month from blacked commissions
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>>8124630
It is
but also let them pay you. If they wanna pay you they need a service. Normies will spend it feeding scummy corporations anyway. Take their money
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>>8124631
Yeah it was a clean gen though can't be helped.

>>8124633
Glad you're here pal.
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>>8124619
it doesn't work correctly on sdxl. at least with pony. you can do a side by side comparison and min snr gamma and debiased estimation loss both produce worse results
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>>8124620
and complicated without arms
kek
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censaar
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>>8124637
Tripple balls, this guy is packing.
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>>8124641
SHIRTZURI
IMPOSSIBRU
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>>8124142
can you point me to where I could find that krekkov lora?
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>>8124647
https://mega.nz/folder/L7Q3XaQC#jg7_M_gCun-aQenQmLISIQ/folder/anxR2DRa
Most of these are good
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>>8124650
cheers
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>>8124643
three balls for her three nips
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>>8124652
honestly looking at it the whole thing looks like it's frying in a bad way. you can see some hints of NaN's popping up and there's the, I'm guessing, shitty adetailer block cutting through shit being super visible, too.
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>>8124643
You stupid fuck, that's just the right nut's ass cheeks
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>>8124628
>>8124637
I do like your gens just ignore the poor nogen niggers, don't ever stop posting
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>>8124619
I reiterate, it does not "improve" details, it just makes the loss multiplier/weight curve behave differently and it switches the focus of the model to specific timesteps.
In other words, if you set the gamma higher, it would roughly be the same as if you had increased the learning rate for all the later timesteps. This is literally all this thing does. And yes, people generally prefer using MinSNR over debiased or not using anything at all for some reason.
>>8124638
Astrakike did use it with gamma=5 for all I know.
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>>8124657
Same, they are so nice
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>>8124625
Sometimes glitch censors are cool too though.
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>>8124660
nta but his is actually too based
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>crank banch size to 12 for fun
>model learns literally nothing for 20 epochs (samples look like shit and almost identical, same seed), making me wonder if i fucked up some settings
>then suddenly the next sample changes completely and it starts going in the right direction
Weird stuff.
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>>8124645
It's easier with a bra but you know she prefers it natural
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>>8124638
So the answer is just better not using anything at all?
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Post gens
Post your gen
Genposting is based
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Why is your >>8124321 gen so clean and then this paizuri >>8124614 is suddenly melting all over the place...
MAKE CLEAN GENS, WHAT AM I PAYING MY (YOU)S FOR???
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>You will not post images
>You will partake in useless console wars
>You will insult and degrade other anons gens
And you will be happy
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>>8124671
You are joking but I am actually more happy since I stopped genning. So much more free time to do more productive things...
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>>8124668
Not yet, I'm still deciding on which upscaler is better, nomos8k does weird things sometimes and I want to know why
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>>8124672
What products have you produced ever since you dropped your addiction and became a productive member of society?
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>>8124676
I learned another Bach's piece on my piano:3
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Hello janny
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>>8123998
>>8124007
>>8124015
YAY KATAWA SHOUJOOOOOOOO
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>>8124681
No you didn't you liar
:3
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>>8124111
She looks so good with eyeshadow
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>>8124684
I might have done even more if I spent less time shitting on anon's gens, but that just isn't something I can compromise on!
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>>8124677
This loli has one huge vagina! Also her boob is meccha fucked up.
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>>8124686
YOU DON'T HAVE A PIANO, JOSH, SHUT UP
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Very, huh, interesting take on the prompt
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>>8124688
Not a real piano (not at home), but i have kawaii mp11se. It's pretty good for studying.
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>>8124691
very nice

dare I say
so erotic
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>>8124693
Fucking knew it, lying ass anon you can't be trusted
>>
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>>8124691
Damn, very hot
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>>8124630
Im getting a lot of commission but im lowballing hard because Its hard to put a price on it
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https://files.catbox.moe/p2qztp.png
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>>8124691
I'm so sorry... You got me:(

>>8124702
Bro that's gay!
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>>8124702
wow
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I lost the catbox roulette
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>>8124702
Schizo get this man.
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>>8124696
Shit I meant to respond here with the top line here >>8124704 whatever.....
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Schizo won
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Where is Nayuta anon anyway? I need some good nai gens to brighten up my evening.
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>>8124630
Imo the thing that is scummy is deception. That means hiding your prompts/art style/lora metadata/general knowhow. If someone doesn't want to learn a thing and they want to hire you to do the work for them, there's no problem hence image sets or lora commissions. It's no different than going to a restaurant instead of cooking yourself.
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>>8124216
>>8124225
Loving all these gens. Also, ignore the pixel humper. "melted pixels" holy shit he should just jerk off to graph paper, his example image looks like fucking garbage. Literally his brain must be autistically fried so that it can't enjoy things that aren't geometrically perfect vectors, probably the same brain disorder as the melty meltdowner. Dude cums when he opens up a geometry textbook and vomits when he looks at a Monet. Absolute autistic robot, I can't emphasize enough how inhuman, pathological, and wrong his tastes are. Whatever you do, DO NOT follow his advice, his aesthetic taste is that of a machine mind with a machine heart - completely sterile and soulless in every way.

Anyway, any chance you could catbox more of them? Also, if you use the stealthpng extension you don't need to box anything ever again
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>>8124496
Actually never fucking mind. After reading stuff here and there I realized that I just assumed that the SNR function is increasing with timesteps, however it turns out it's decreasing in a very peculiar way, according to the debiased paper (picrel, nvm the orange line). That means the min function will only cap the SNR at lower timesteps, thus lowering the loss only at lower timesteps and basically does nothing at higher timesteps.
This changes the semantics and the conclusions completely, let me fix the original post.
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your wd trooncord screenshot sar, as you requested
https://files.catbox.moe/fumk89.jpg
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>>8124713
>don't hide your prompts
>some artist says you stole his work
>points to your prompt that has his name inside and pixiv removes your work
Maybe not now but I can see this shit happening in the future so I just post without prompts.
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>>8124671
I've posted 6(actually, this is the 7... technically 8? since it's got a variation attached) things in the last 26 hours. That's actually significantly more prolific than I've been in a pretty long while.
And, personally, I'm considering going on strike and forming a union to prevent this level of overwork from happening again.
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>>8124717
But here's the thing anon, AI is transformative. We've already been through this arc with react content on YouTube/Twitch. It's one thing to make a lora from Asanagi and just copy him, it's another thing to fuse Asanagi with Butcha-U because it is by definition transformative and is 100% legal and fair use.
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>>8124717
You better filter your posts with nightshade while you're at it, wouldn't want anyone stealing your hard work!
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>>8124718
Waifu's lora is still cooking so I can't post yet... Would like to try out this artist combo as soon as it's done. Hopefully it will work this time I've baked it like 10 times now.
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>>8124716
Nice, let's see jordachs response
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>>8124717
you're just a dumbass
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>>8124720
There's a pretty easy chain of legislation that can make this play out in the way I described. Checkpoint was trained on an artist that doesn't allow his work used for AI -> checkpoint is illegal. You generated with that checkpoint therefore your work is illegal.
>>8124721
Reading comprehension issue.
>>8124725
Not an argument.
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>>8124728
lol
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>>8124106
Are these your bakes?
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>>8124630
anon I don't even take requests. the moment I start doing things I don't actually want to do is the moment I'll start to slowly drop doing something entirely.
Shit's just not worth it.
That said, if I was in a position that someone very specifically propositioned me for whatever reason, I'd have zero issues taking payment for commission. There's nothing really 'scummy' about it considering you're getting paid for knowledge/experience*time spent. AI or not doesn't really matter and ultimately AI is just a tool. Time is money and fuck you, pay me.
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>>8124737
yeah that's my mega directory.
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>>8124713
To continue your analogy. Sharing the prompt and loras is like coming to a restaurant, and along with your food they bring you their secret family recipe and a list of places to buy the ingredients from. It's great that we all share, but I wouldn't expect it from someone making real money off of AI.

The actual scummy thing is slapping a "since 1832" label on your coffee shop then selling starbucks' sugar water. By that I mean pretending you draw and don't use AI.
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>>8124683
YAY TO YOU TOO ANON
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>>8124681
>Bach
noob!!!!
learn mozart and i might excuse your nogenness
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>>8124741
do you mind sharing your tianlang dataset?
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>>8124744
Sorry bro, Mozart might be more technically challenging to play and it's fun to run virtuously through the keyboard, but Bach is straight up better composition-wise. His fugues are otherworldly... I also play his violin pieces on guitar. I'm pretty much the Bach man, there's like 4 pieces I know in total that are from other composers.

Also I don't think she'll be able to play...
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>>8124718
I see you fire
I still miss best girl
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>>8124751
She can use her feet
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>>8124751
>>8124744
>>8124743
What's up with all the off-topic? And isn't amputee stuff /d/ anyway?
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>>8124759
>all the off-topic
Business as usual, no more than on any other day.
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>>8124674
im interested in you're opinion, i use this one general purpose, and sometimes animesharp-4x comes out a little nicer for relatively flat shading and prominent lines
https://huggingface.co/uwg/upscaler/blob/main/ESRGAN/4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G.pth
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>>8124759
bro post something on topic or we'll never learn ;)
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>>8124751
I never liked the fartiness of Bach myself to be honest. Mozart is more energetic, and I like energy.
Although I'll admit Bach's compositions are more detailed.
>>8124757
You can say that twice ha ha ha
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>>8124748
https://litter.catbox.moe/lozh5w.7z
it's pretty small. iirc I just scraped their pixiv, pruned the fuck out of it, did a bit of photoshop cleaning on some things, did a mostly default tagger run and just yolo'd it.
>>8124755
any time I post oc donut I get a vacation no matter her bust or if she has pubes.
it sucks and I hate it. so now she lives on purely as sample cards and maybe on pixiv.
it's a real tragedy.
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>>8124674
>>8124762
Am i the only one using HurrDeblur? Works really well for not fucking up the pictures even with high noise
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>>8124766
Can you share a link to it? I wanna try it
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>>8124765
>any time I post oc donut I get a vacation no matter her bust or if she has pubes.
Bro? Don't you have your own thread on treech, what are you waiting for...
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>>8124765
>no donut
That sucks, what a cutie.
You're probably the single glora user. Not that you're wrong or anything, literally everyone else toasts their result when attempting it. That you have anything remotely viable at all is a big deal, I'd read whatever you have to say about it.
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>>8124768
https://openmodeldb.info/models/1x-HurrDeblur-SuperUltraCompact
First result on google btw, give me your thought on it since I wanted to check other upscaler but im kinda lazy
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>>8124777
me on the left praying for a turn
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>>8124764
It can seem like fartiness but I can tell he enjoyed composing everything he carefully crafted (well maybe by art of the fugue time he really did become dead inside and farty, who wouldn't at that age anyway). It grows on you the more you study it.
>>8124777
WTF you scared me! Don't post images all of a sudden.
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So the update/fix on the MinSNR post. Disregard that >>8124294

To understand what MinSNR does, you'd have to understand what timesteps are first. You train a model step-by-step. Let's pick a number, say 0. It will represent the image that contains nothing but noise. Let's pick another number, say 1. This will be considered a fully denoised image. Everything inbetween is a just an image with added noise. Let's stretch this 0..1 range to 0..1000, since that's what SD uses. So 0 is noise, 1000 is the image, and 500 is half-noise, half-image. To train a model, you pick a random image and add a random amount of noise to it, say up to 345 timestep. So the image consists of 1 - 0.345 or 65.5% of noise. Then you make U-net predict how the timestep 346 would look like, and as a result of that you get a loss sample and update the weights with it.

The problem is, across all the timesteps (2>3, 800>801, etc), the loss updates the model by the same amount, but MinSNR paper found that this is not actually the case. At each timestep the model does different things, and some timesteps are cancelling each other out, i.e. the model generates some composition first and then the details that were added at later timesteps fuck it all up. The reason for that is that earlier timesteps produce significantly larger loss than the later ones. To fix that, they proposed scaling the loss based on the timestep, in order to spread the diffusion task across timesteps more evenly. The exact general formula is:
loss multiplier = min(SNR(timestep), gamma)

This "caps" the loss BEFORE certain timestep, you can see the SNR plot for SD on the left and the rough result of scaling on the right (from debiased paper, ignore orange lines). The smaller the gamma is, the more tight the capping is, which means that you train on earlier timesteps less and focus on later timesteps.

tldr:
larger gamma = cramming every detail in the beginning
smaller gamma = spreading every detail across the timesteps
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>>8124780
It's more that I when I think of Bach I think pretty conservative, slow, methodical, bassy, dum dum DUM. Hence the "fartiness".
Mozart is boomboom tatatata ah ah ah ah melodical opera kek
Rin no that's not how you hold a rose in your teeth...
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>>8124762
>https://files.catbox.moe/7po0x3.png
Made with NMKD

>>8124771
Turns out I already have it haha
>https://files.catbox.moe/m5ybyn.png

And this one was made with that I'm using at the moment (https://openmodeldb.info/models/2x-HFA2kShallowESRGAN)
>https://files.catbox.moe/h6eztt.png

Everyone made with 0.4 of denoise and yeah, I think NMKD just won overall, not really sure if that's a acceptable value to use with those but, there you go, I definitely going to use NMKD for a while to further see how it goes, thanks for sharing anon
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me in the back
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You know I stay thinkin' bout that-
Anime Pussy.
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what's the easiest way to reuse the excact same girl in different poses? my guess is just writing down every detail that needs remain consistent into the prompt, is this right?
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>>8124770
man you don't even fucking know how fucking weird glora is.
I don't even fucking know just how fucking weird glora is yet.
I haven't really gotten to extrapolate a whole lot out of it yet since I've been busy fiddling with new sampler shit but the TE is... It's some real fucking shit. I've been having to retune settings trying to get it to pick some things up and at some point I decided to leave TE LR's cranked and just drop the u-net like a fucking rock. Which, uh, here's a grid of the multi-lora I posted
https://files.catbox.moe/g05i53.png
First row is full strength. Second row disables the u-net, third row disables the TE(but re-enables the u-net). Clearly they both work significantly better together but there's clearly some really interesting stuff happening and the TE is just absurdly strong.
I mean, I knew the TE was good from the start, considering I noticed right away that multi-artist lora's work perfectly fine without keep N tokens despite having shuffled captions. But I didn't think it was going like this. And I need to actually put in work to try and figure things out.
Ignoring that stuff though, glora just feels really powerful. I've mentioned it elsewhere but it's basically as close as you can get to an actual finetune in lora form.
>That sucks, what a cutie.
for real. No idea what the bias against her is.
however here's a random oc donut from a while ago that I posted to /e/ but I don't think I put anywhere else
https://files.catbox.moe/lir77c.png
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literally bought my gpu for this stuff
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>>8124796
i bought my first nvidia for anime4k
how times change
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>>8124802
wait shit no that was called waifu2x
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>>8124789
I think I prefer the hurrblurr result, also its pretty fast
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>>8124765
thanks anon you a real one
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>>8124781
Thanks for fixing anon, we need more people that takes their own time to explain shit just like you.
Would you recommend not using any of these loss modifier options, including debiased estimation?
Also, what about ip noise?
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>>8124794
Obviously nigga why is that even a question?
You prompt for things you want to see.
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>>8124795
this character expertly utilises negative space to invite a dicking
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Hairy, musty, vaginas.
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>>8124742
>and along with your food they bring you their secret family recipe and a list of places to buy the ingredients from
Yes I thought about this when I was making the analogy but this isn't quite right. Remember everything that goes into the creation of the lora was given to you by someone else. First the people who researched machine learning and gave us SD, then the ones who spent hundreds of thousands to train the model, then the github geniuses that made the webui and the training tools, then all the people that made tutorials and gave explanations, then all the regular people who figured out good settings through trial and error. So many hundreds or even thousands of people collaborated and provided this info all for free to get you to this point. Then your tiny contribution is that you spilled some syrup into the soup one time, it worked out great, and you decided to call the entire output "your recipe." That's ridiculous to me.
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>>8124821
And this is exactly why due to VAT your gens should cost 2500$ each on patreon
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>>8124821

Wtf, I'm a coommunist now
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>>8124781
>cramming every detail in the beginning
Wait I'm still confused. If min snr gamma increases the time steps a higher min snr gamma would be something like 1 - 0.8 instead of 1 - 0.345 right? This means the model would predict nearly finished images rather than early images which results in learning more details? Again isn't this what you'd want (but not too high of course).
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>>8124794
That and reuse the seed/use variation seed.
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>>8124827
nice cock on the right
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>>8124821
people making stuff on patreon are not selling their top secret recipe otherwise there wouldnt be 100 copy past of the same style+fetish, what they sell is the time they spent themselves on doing the pictures
to take your analogy people go to restaurant because they cant cook as well or because they are too lazy to cook
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>>8124814
Alright anon I'll give 2d_fish a try....
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>>8124830
No no, Patreon is the DoorDash of AI gens.
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>>8123664
Okay reforge guy here, FINALLY fixed MSW-MSA Attention. Now it works fine.

It doesn't seem to affect that much SDXL but it works at 1536x1536+.

For SD1.5 it seems to really help though.
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>>8124830
>to take your analogy people go to restaurant because they cant cook as well or because they are too lazy to cook
I literally made this point in my first comment.
>>8124713
My problem is with the deception. As in someone wanting to learn and you refusing because you think typing in nyantcha instead of csr now makes the style "yours."
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>>8124834
forgot commit

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/b55146dccb103fe45bf3d064734bf90dde4dad5a
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>>8124834
>MSW-MSA Attention
What does this do exactly?
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>>8124830
there already are 100 copies of bbc shit with basically the exact same style though
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>>8124838
this
all those bbc grifters are using literally same styles and they still get subscribers
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>>8124837
Honestly not sure, just ported it from comfy since an anon asked about it >>8123497 and someone raised it as a request https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/issues/68
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>>8124836
wait a little, this seems to have fixed msw msa but it broke raunet, damn IoI
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people just want to spend money to feel like they have it
just look at all the fucking millennial garbage on kickstarter getting millions while people are complaining about paying rent
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>>8124781
Now let's think how it's possible to effectively utilize this.
Without MinSNR, if you have settled on the specific learning rate, it's very likely that you couldn't set it higher because at earlier timesteps it would have absolutely fucking destroyed the model. With MinSNR you can (or actually, should) set much higher learning rates than without it since MinSNR effectively dampened most of the training the model recieved. It shouldn't be impossible to calculate the exact proportions in which you should increase the LR for each gamma via integrals, but it's much more practical to just figure out the LR the usual way.
>>8124809
On paper the debiased estimation should be MinSNR on steroids since it solves the same problem, but when I tried to train loras on pony with it it just didn't work that well for some reason. You use either debiased estimation or MinSNR.
>Also, what about ip noise?
AFAIK it's just adding some additional noise to the latent you trying to train the model on. For loras it might be useful to regularize it a bit more but for full finetunes it will just bake the noise in the model, even as low as 0.05 will surely show itself in some weird noise patterns.
>huber loss
No idea how and why and even if it works, but I skimmed through paper and it seems useful if you pair it with ip noise or if you're trying to train on glazed images or something.
>>8124826
>min snr gamma would be something like 1 - 0.8 instead of 1 - 0.345 right?
I've lost you there, you seem to be talking about what decreasing the gamma would effectively """do""", not increasing?
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is it common that excessively high base resolution causes deformed anatomy?
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>>8124849
yes
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>>8124850
so is 500-1000 pixels the typical ideal for base res?
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>>8124831
Nice. I had to manually edited that image to get her fingers between her cunt hair. I couldn't get it through prompt alone.
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>>8124851
~2m total pixels. use standard sdxl resolutions for best effect. google that if it means nothing to you.
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>>8124841
has your MSWMSA implementation been finnicky about what resolutions it wants to accept? i usually have it off for SDXL regardless
but mainly RAUnet seems better at not losing its shit than kohya hiresfix, and applying its scaling to the cross-attention blocks is sometimes a major benefit too
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>>8124838
yeah well what do you want me to say, people love shitty disgusting food
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Negpip is such a weird extension. It definitely works and can have huge impacts on style, but figuring out what to neg and how strong is kinda impossible. Like I'm negging overwatch at -1.5 on the left here and it makes her pussy neater and gives her gradient eyes, how does that make sense?
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>>8124826
>This means the model would predict nearly finished images rather than early images which results in learning more details?
Ah, I think I got what you mean. No this is not how you want to do it because you want to train the model more or less evenly unless you want to end up with something like on the top row.
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>>8124855
MSWMSA has the same conditions as from the comfy one, so res has to be multiple of 64/128 I think.

Yeah RAUnet seems pretty cool, I have to check why when fixing MSWMSA it stopped working :(
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>>8124848
>I've lost you there, you seem to be talking about what decreasing the gamma would effectively """do""", not increasing?
Either or. I'm trying to figure out what that setting does. Based on what you said a certain min snr gamma value caps the maximum time steps. If timesteps are more a less a certain amount of image completion, wouldn't it be better to get AI to recreate images at a higher image completion rather than a lower one? With your example, wouldn't it be better to have an image that's 25% noise instead of 65.5% noise?
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>>8124848
>>8124862
>Now let's think how it's possible to effectively utilize this.
Ok well based on this part it seems it's better to just not use snr gamma at all and raise your LR to learn details.
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>>8124865
>canny
uoh
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>>8124865
I only support saas working girls
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>>8124874
Working girls are always says by definition. Having an overweight gf would be local
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>>8124862
>Based on what you said a certain min snr gamma value caps the maximum time steps.
It doesn't cap timesteps, anon. It caps the loss. At earlier timesteps.
Small gamma will just result in that the model mainly trains on later timesteps. Gamma -> infinity will result in Constant weighting, see the right plot.
>If timesteps are more a less a certain amount of image completion, wouldn't it be better to get AI to recreate images at a higher image completion rather than a lower one?
The whole point of adding timesteps is to spread the diffusion into parts (which are even). You typically don't want to go all the way from 0 to 1000 in one step because that will not give you quality results.
>>8124863
Now this is just retarded because you will fry the U-net at earlier timesteps.
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>>8124877
>spread
split*
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>>8124868
A more appropriate image, nice work.

>>8124873
It's an adult woman anon. She's just thin because she's poor and third world.

>>8124874
>>8124876
She would prefer you turn her into an honest woman by marrying her.
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>bake lora 5 times
>5th one comes out good but is missing a little bit of detail so I increase epochs
>bake lora 10 more times
>all 10 come out worse than the 5th
>finally realize I did a typo in the prompt for the 5th lora and it's actually fine
Whole days wasted.
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>>8124879
Be sure to give her lots of foreign investment to stimulate her local economy.
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doing some RAUnet vs Kohya XYs
top line so far: better sharpness and resolution out of RAUnet
significantly faster gens out of RAUnet (avg 1.45s/it vs 1.67s/it in these gens so far)
CA block sometimes has good effect on composition and detail. worth trying anywhere from 0.1 to 0.4 if you want to bring out background elements or alter the perspective
unclear which one if either is really "holding it together" better on object permanence, anatomy, and fingers/toes, at least at 1.5X scale, ill try and do some at 2X scale and above too
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>>8124893
I like this image
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>>8124894
Be sure to support the local demi-humans while you're in town. They don't get as much business as the human girls, but they work extra hard to satisfy their customers!
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overall i think it's RAUnet but it's a lot closer than i thought itd be, here's one on 2X scale
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Anons, are good image and sovlful image correlated or not? I.e. can image be good, but not sovl and vice versa?
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>>8124918
of course, it's actually harder for images to have sovl the better they are
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>>8124917
So what you're saying is sometime Snake Oil from Brand A is better, but other times Snake Oil from Brand B is better.
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>>8124924
actually i think i fucked up and did these all at 1x scale not 1.5x and 2x lol, the empty latent node wasnt doing what i thought it was doing
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>>8124924
>>8124925
yeah here's an actual 2X scale gen and ill delete some preceding images
at 2X scale RAUnet is obviously superior
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>>8124930
settings for raunet?
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>>8124908
>>8124909
>>8124910
>>8124912
>>8124917
actually i fucked up this whole series of gens and did them all at normal scale
RAUnet is obviously superior at 2X >>8124930
and probably better at 1.5X
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>>8124931
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Any solution to inpainting fucking the colors?
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>>8124938
paint.net
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>>8124938
redo larger area at low steps smol denoise
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>>8124940
and by which i mean the inpainted image, paint it again more gently
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>>8124916
A lot of demi-humans temporarily become working girls to support their village. So it's pretty common to end up hiring a virgin. Once they've sent enough money to satisfy the village elders they return home to get married off to another village. Some end up just marrying a repeat customer instead of returning home. (Won't you marry and save these poor girls anon?)
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>>8124123
>>8124170
>>8124146
>>8123554
>>8123601
>>8124225
Catbox please?
>>8124198
Manually downscaling and scaling up with nearest neighbour would look better than your trash lol. That's the only real way you'll get perfect pixels.
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>>8124939
yeah I use gimp and just kind of wing it with basic brushes, is there a good way to fix an area's color?

>>8124940
>>8124941
that just makes it gently worse
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>>8124945
if it's a large are i'll throw it into photoshop which has better masking and color adjustment tools but otherwise i'll just scribble over it and throw it back into inpaint with low denoise
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>>8124943
https://files.catbox.moe/m2qeem.png My nobara (The iztah lora is the real magic)
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now that i havent fucked anything up, the text here >>8124908 is still valid. RAUnet gens faster, looks a little nicer on fine detail, has extra sliders to fuck with.
at 2X scale Kohya is destroyed, not close
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Fave locations? Getting tired of white backgrounds
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>>8124954
beach, tentacle pit, onsen, train interior
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>>8124954
gradient background
abstract background
two-tone background
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>>8124954
lake or river, cherry blossoms
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>>8124954
bedroom
beach
school
pool
city
alley
dungeon
farm
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>>8124954
gotta love the one 'indoors' green curtains, one lamp that autismmix does every single time
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>>8123504
>>8123587
>>8123625
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>>8123917
Okay guys, reforge guy here, finally implemented RAUNet and MSW-MSA correctly. Now they both work independently, and also added a lot of description into the extension.

Also added the simple versions to mostly test if you like it, that work out of the box.

Man this was too much, but for sure it has interesting result.

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/dc07afe83193f3228d0c0b55331a09e1744843bb

Finally, I can rest...
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Every time I try to create a beach background, the same fucking building force themselves into the picture
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I hate how AI copies the annoying art thing where the only breast sizes are flat, small and massive
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>>8124968
Because those are the only sizes that exist.
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>>8124942
Some demi-humans are pure nymphomaniacs. They often have several children by several different men. Because of this, they work extra long hours to support their massive families. They often fantasize about a wonderful man coming into their lives and sweeping them off their feet. (with your penis)
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as the thread oracle, here are my visions:
>August 25th, first publicly usable wdv alpha drops. cascade still on 1b
>September 15th, Jordach finally starts training the 3.6b
>October 6, first preview images of Ponyv7
>November 15, NAIv4 teased but not released
now rest, and let fate play out
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>>8124974
damn we got nostradamus in here
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>>8124974
3.6B starts in just over three weeks after which E11 Lite has finished. I've managed to shave half a day off of Lite training by fucking around with a few non-code related things.
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>>8124129
Your life is worthless
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>>8124973
>Some demi-humans are pure nymphomaniacs

true
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Goonerman, your response?
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>>8124964
So how do I use this thing again? pretty much just enable it and that's it? do also have to enable hires fix?
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>>8124968
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Flat, small, medium, large and huge are all native in pony. Then you can add weights to any of those. wdym
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can we post /e/ here now?
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>>8124973
Some working girls are of royal blood. Their families fall on hard times so they force some of their most wasteful offsprings to work off some debt. These girls typically make awful workers, but some men enjoy their defiant attitude in bed. Eventually some desperate and sympathetic simp comes along and marries one of these women. She promptly proceeds to make his life a living hell until he drowns himself in booze. Such is the life of a peasant.
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>>8124999
We always could bwo, it was up to (You) if you wanted to
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>>8124978
does that mean you're going to stop training the TE at e11? did you already decide that or does it depend on how the next epochs behave?
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>>8124968
flat chest
small breasts
medium breasts
large breasts
huge breasts
sagging breasts
perky breasts
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>>8124954
Outer space. Spaceship interior.
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>>8124968
The only issue AI has is that it pushes the girl toward loli if you type small breasts. Fortunately loli in negs solves most of it.
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>>8125008
and if you type big breasts then it pushes the girl towards adult/hag without some heavy nudging to try to keep it to shorstack/loli

Has anyone made a shortstack lora that would help with that
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>>8125009
Someone made a midna/imp lora.
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>>8124714
>>8124943
for the izuna triplets gen i used controlnet at lower weights on this https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7031263 and just added impregnation, torogao, pink negligee, and head back with the rest being gacha
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>>8124996
>>8124964
Ok never mind, saw it here
>https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/issues/68
This is cool, kind of fast too, no idea of what values should I use tho, I used the RAUNET Simple tab with default values for this one
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>>8125009
some examples with just shortstack in the prompt and (shortstack), prob too hag-ish for you though.


https://files.catbox.moe/jwguq6.png

https://files.catbox.moe/stugfi.png
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>>8125000
Some women occasionally do work in between their adventurer jobs. Men from all over the land bid for a chance to work with famous women. Some infamous women are notorious for forcing men to do all night work sessions. "You get what you pay for." Is a common saying after these men complain to the establishment. Many such cases.
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I'm finally ready to learn to do some training and give back for all the models so generously shared by others.

1a. Are Lora's still the go-to method of training when done at home? Or should I be using something else?
1b. Lora's are model specific aren't they? They only work with the model that they're trained on?

2. There's a couple of bondage / suspension / caging ideas I want to train as I'm not quite happy with the results of current models I've been able to find. Anyone have other ideas of what they'd like to see? I want to throw a couple of weeks at learning to do this stuff, so I might as well make something other people like in the process.

3. Please advise if you've had succesful with a particular guide as starting point.

ps. using geforce RTX4090
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>>8125024
what is that no hi res fix? since when sdxl can do 1024x2048 natively
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>>8125027
>>8124964
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what is this tactic?
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>>8125022
Don't gen at 512x, thats 1.5 resolution, use pic related for SD XL models
Yes LORAs are still the go to for training at home concepts/styles/characters for Pony v6

heres a small guide an Anon posted earlier
https://civitai.com/articles/3105/essential-to-advanced-guide-to-training-a-lora
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>>8124964
How do I enable this? I updated my reforge and I don't see this anywhere
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>>8125032
he's clearly using a 1.5 model
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>>8125035
Why is he using 1.5 with a 4090?
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>>8125037
don't ask me
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>>8125031
It's classified
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>>8125033
If main branch it isn't there, only on dev_upstream branch (because main branch/OG forge is missing comfy upstream backend changes to make it work)
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>>8125032
Yeah those pics are from 18 months ago before I had a RTX 4090. But they're the most easily presentable thing I've made, even if they're 512x512.

Appreciated, thanks.
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This is the last 512x512 I'll post, just to finish the before sex/after sex theme.

Will be nice to spend a month or two on this like I did back then.
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>>8125035
Took me a bit

>>8125044
>>8125048
Yeah np switch over to Pony/Autism SDXL model as its the current local model and you'd be more than capable of running it with a 4090,keep in mind it has its own separate method for prompting as it was trained using "score" tags instead of "high quality,best quality etc." if you're confused just steal some from this thread or CivitAI.
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>>8125022
1a. Pretty much, there are some variations to the concept of LoRA but those aren't worth looking at yet if you're just starting off.
1b. Right now it's only worth training LoRAs for Pony Diffusion, and if you train it on base Pony then it will work on any model derived from it.
3. By far the most important part of training a LoRA is preparing a dataset and tagging it, and for that this guide is pretty solid:
https://civitai.com/articles/138/making-a-lora-is-like-baking-a-cake
Just ignore everything it says about cropping images and about training settings.
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>>8125049
ah that is very helpful, thanks. I found some info on these score tags.

https://civitai.com/articles/4871/pony-diffusion-v6-xl-prompting-resources-and-info

Was pony not trained with gelbooru tags?

Guess I'll have to relearn and rewrite my python scripts for mass prompting once I figure out what tags yield good results.
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>>8125019
Some educated girls become workers to help pay their tuition. Being afraid of their love ones finding out, they often hide their identities. One famous story is about a boy discovering his crush had become a worker. In his excitement he asked to work with her. She becomes enraged and promptly refuses him by punching him in the face. The boy decides to get revenge by telling everyone she's a worker. Both the girl and the boy were expelled for engaging in work related activities. A sad tale, indeed, but that is the life of a peasant.
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>>8125003
Yep, freeze at E11 because there's no point after that since the encoder for CLIP G is 750m parameters, ie, it's learned way better than say CLIP L present in SD 1.5. Training it any further isn't going to help much now, so it's time for Stage C Lite to pick up the rest.
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>>8125053
>Was pony not trained with gelbooru tags?
It was but, the absolute dunce of a trainer decided to use the separate "score_" and "source_" tagging system as a way to separate each baked in artsyle set and concepts as a substitute for "quality" tags, its a lot of just jargon I don't fully understand (an anon here can probably elaborate on my post)
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Anyway to inpaint these triangle details to make them look like cutouts?
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>>8125056
nta but ive seen on the dicksword that clip g is having some kind of troubles in general, do you think it is related to not having tag shuffle on? also, will you ever turn tag shuffling on again?
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>>8125057
no, it's literally just astra's attempt at quality tags only that he fucked it up extremely hard, as he explains himself here:
https://civitai.com/articles/4248
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>>8124250
Is there a lora for the forearm size comparison
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>>8125061
From my current, cursory understanding it is the sole reason why vanilla ControlNets are non functional on PonyXL. Pooled embeddings seem to cause similar issues with SDXL. Ever noticed strange diagonal lines in SDXL models that occur at random? I've noticed the same thing show up in Cascade which hints at CLIP G being completely unsuitable for an image gen model. I am looking into a highly hacked up variant of Cascade around the 2B params, 1024x base res range utilising CLIP L from SD1 since that's known to be a decent CLIP model that doesn't cause issues.
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which one?
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>>8125067
Smea dy every time. Normal schedule.
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>>8125067
SMEA Dy with Beta looks nice
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Now I used this settings >>8123917 but with bislerp and also tweaked the prompt a little to make the gen more appealing (to me)
Berry cool, I'll try to do something more complex to see how it goes
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>>8125056
i see, good to know. looking forward to the 3.6b bake
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>>8125065
Yeah it's a besollo Lora on civ

https://civitai.com/models/602565/forearm-cock-size-comparison-pony?modelVersionId=673543
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>>8125066
>I am looking into a highly hacked up variant of Cascade around the 2B params, 1024x base res range utilising CLIP L from SD1 since that's known to be a decent CLIP model that doesn't cause issues.
cascade is really that customizable? wow
how are you even going to do that? seems like a real big fucking task for a project this big
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>>8125066
SD1's CLIP is the smallest one and also is known for being highly inaccurate, why would you even use it at this point?
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>>8125080
I actually have answers for this, ever abused the absolute shit out of CLIP L (SD1.5) and yet it never seems to really decay in performance? I have a theory on that CLIP L is inaccurate at generating "correct" embeddings, but that inaccuracy is what makes it good for image models. Look at NAIv1 (leak) and tell me that despite it's issues, it works amazingly well.
>>8125078
I have re-implemented Cascade training from scratch so I can effectively train it from goddamn scratch with a dataset that isn't corpo shite.
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>>8125054
Some women whose husbands have gotten hurt or passed away find themselves doing work to help feed their families. Often times, these women realized they enjoy the work and continue to do so even after getting remarried. Some of the married men even begin to enjoy watching their wives work.
Very strange men, they are.
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>>8124964
i will be pleased to see gen quality increase
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so, by omitting hair and eye color from lora dataset... base model never uses eyes and hair color knowledge to draws them in first place, right?
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>>8125067
with RAUnet youll come full circle back to Euler A
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https://ai.meta.com/blog/dino-v2-computer-vision-self-supervised-learning/
Bros
When will Zuckerberg save local
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>>8125067
catbox please? real nice
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Cool stuff. Now somebody just needs to figure out how to avoid the long ass torsos with non-square aspect ratios.
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Alright, tried a more "complex" prompt, under regular settings the gen should look like this
>https://files.catbox.moe/z0ae4r.png
And now it does like pic related, I feel like it's ignoring parts of my prompt, could also be the current style loras that I'm using tho
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>>8125091
NTA but does raunet not work with smea dy?
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>>8125098
you will find the SMEA sampler suffocates variety and RAUnet is what's keeping the gen coherent
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>>8125099
do you recommend any scheduler/raunet settings? or just the simple one (assuming forge)
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>>8125090
that question doesn't really make sense to me. say that your character has purple eyes and you prune that tag from the dataset, then when you prompt for that character without using the tag "purple eyes" the model won't rely on the information it associates with that specific tag, but it still has to rely on its knowledge of what eyes look like (including that they have certain colors and what those colors generally look like), so it's not like you can entirely avoid whatever bias the model might have
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>>8125084
Gullible women from the countryside hear stories of other women making it big as workers. Often time you get groups of women becoming workers as a package deal. Without fail, these women become addicted to the city life, build up debt, and become trapped in the line of work. Too poor and ashamed to return to the countryside, they live their lives hoping a man would save them from their debt slavery.
But as all wise men know, you can't turn a hoe into a house wife.
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I'm looking to try out the training settings for the iztah1 lora but I'm a bit reluctant because it says the learning rate is 1.0, even with prodigy isn't that just a bit high?
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>>8125101
im just wondering if discarding base model's knowledge is the reason why eyes are so inconsistent and blurry in my loras
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>>8125105
Prodigy auto adjusts and if you don't set it to 1.0 then it won't be able to properly auto adjust the LR.
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>>8125100
Euler A & AYS
Euler Negative is interesting but usually worse
0.45-0.6 end_time, stick with 0-0.1 ca_end_time at first and play with tuning it up
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does anyone know where this "pad cond: true" setting is in forge
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>>8125109
do you keep the blocks at default?
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>>8125107
if that was the case then that would be true for every lora that prunes eye color (and it isn't)
maybe the eyes in your dataset are so different that the model can't decide what they're supposed to look like. consider discarding images that have eyes too different from what you want
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>>8125111
3,5 in/out
2,7 ca in/out
i use the comfy node idk what forge has default for SDXL
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>>8125114
thanks, i can change it in advanced
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>>8125112
i'd end up with too little images because artist draw wife's eyes with both different iris structure and eye color tint
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>>8125117
too little images for a character lora is less than 30 images, surely you can get at least that much for a character with 5.7k images in danbooru
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>>8125103
Some worker simply refuse to retire. They've worked so long, gotten used to a particular lifestyle, built up a great deal of debt, but refused to marry. They are constantly passed over for a younger worker but stick around to "teach the younger girls how it's done". Every once and a while some simp with a granny fetish shows up, giving her a boost of confidence. "I still got it", she thinks to herself. Sad.

Okay, I'm done. Good nite.
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>>8125114
do you also use MSW-MSA? what settings if you do?
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>>8125121
i do not, it conflicts too much with my choices in resolution. i dont think it does much for SDXL going by the few times i've A/B'd it
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>>8125083
alright furryman, but youre going to need a fucking lot of compute in order to be able to train from scratch and 4xh100s i really doubt it will get the task done under a reasonable amount of time
you better know what youre doing before entering that area, somehow i feel there is some missing context about the hardware you can get in the future or smthn
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>>8125129
Those 4090s aren't going anywhere and can crunch close to a million images a day on current settings. With the TE being a whole lot smaller things can be run even faster than normal.
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>>8125118
there are still several different outfits i'd like to have, and eyes are easier to draw than whole outfits...
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>>8125130
the sd1 text encoder is not the problem we know it will be trained very fast, what im concerned about is the hacked 2b effnet youre talking about
do you have the dataset prepared for that, and what the dataset will consist of (anime, furry, realistic?)
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>>8125133
i'm just answering your question, you can do whatever you want
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>>8125134
My plans are to produce a primary parent model to Reso R2, hence the unusual Spectra One designation - rather than being balls deep into internet subculture it covers more or less the full corpus of art. At a minimum the safe for work content of anime/furry will be retained. It's being designed as a true artist apprentice/ideas box, hence why the dataset will focus a lot more on architecture, concept art, backgrounds, still lifes, portraits, and various other disciplines. Not boring photoreal slop.

A true specialist of generative art models to be built as a tool rather than a corporate slop machine. The 2B size is to ensure it can train LoRAs on any 8GB GPU. My consideration is that Spectra One should be something highly personalised with your own ideas and concepts. Hence CLIP L being present over the fat ass that is CLIP G. Unlike regular Cascade, Spectra One comes in a single model size further reducing confusion.
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>>8125122
Is MSW-MSA fixed on reforge? It wasn't working last night
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>>8125091
jokes on you, this is with raunet
>>8125094
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>>8125097
Changed the sampler to euler a as >>8125092
pointed out and now it follows the prompt better, still, hitting a decent seed is quite hard

>>8125143
I used the simple version with this one, no idea if it's working tho
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Meant to quote to >>8125091
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>>8125142
>The 2B size is to ensure it can train LoRAs on any 8GB GPU.
exactly what i was talking about yesterday
models can be better without needing to feed them a brazillion parameters so in the end you need half a cluster to barely run it, it has been already proven that when reaching a certain point of params it gives almost zero benefits while increasing vram requirements. your idea sounds really promising. looking forward for it, local has been having a real hard time now and its at least a little bit comforting that smart brains like you and tree have decided to make local great again, i hope you guys dont go astrakike or naicorpogarbage in the future
also this project is aimed to be only after reso r2 gets baked am i right?
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>>8125148
yeah it seems to be working. way less of a effect on the final result than RAUNet though it seems.
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>>8125148
>>8125153
Fucked up the quote again, it's getting late here I should rest....
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>>8125142
>hence why the dataset will focus a lot more on architecture, concept art, backgrounds, still lifes, portraits, and various other disciplines. Not boring photoreal slop.
Omg does this mean SD1 tier backgrounds will be back?
sisters I'm excited
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>>8125158
Before Reso R2 while I still happen to have a shit ton of free corporate handouts. Spectra One and Reso R2 will get full open source licensing because I don't give a fuuuuuuuuck. Most of the testing will be done on the 4090s as to validate that it actually *trains* as expected.
>>8125162
I have very little interest in the depth of field photo real slop that SD3, XL and DALLE shits out. I want some real fucking traditional, modern art like good old Rutkowski or some meme-tier shit like Bauhaus, maximalist or kitsch. There is so much art in the world and ignoring humanity's capacity for other forms of art is an absolute tragedy.
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>>8125164
>full open source licensing
excellent
>Before Reso R2
darn
well its fine, but was more excited about r2 cuz of the bigger rebake + actual good tags + vision model finetune, but no worries as long as you deliver
keep baking furryman
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What are your go to artists for quick easy aesthetically pleasing gens?
Gotta be asura for me
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>>8125067
How do you get SMEA in Forge? I updated it but I still don't have it.
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>>8125173
pretty sure reforge now has it natively
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/tree/dev_upstream
or try
https://github.com/Koishi-Star/Euler-Smea-Dyn-Sampler
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>>8125174
oh that explains it, I'm still using forge, not reforge, guess I'll give it a try, thanks!
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comfybros, recently updated all my comfy stuff, now gen speed is 5x the normal rate but the image is trash. wot happened
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>>8124327
this looks amazing anon
please post more
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>>8124327
Catbox for the style pls
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>>8125190
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>>8125192
post has meta
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>>8125193
ty
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is there an openpose controlnet for SDXL? if so - can i "assign" it a part of prompt that would consist of one girl, and have several openpose controlnets with various girls like that? or is this level of complexity is comfyui territory?
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>>8125199
fuck off and kill yourself.
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>>8125201
https://huggingface.co/xinsir/controlnet-union-sdxl-1.0
maybe forge coupling can do multiple control nets idk
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reforge anon, i think i might have another request..
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>>8125187
Seconding this, the style is amazing
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everyone is still using pony right? what should default settings look like? like sampling steps. preferred resolution, etc..? I read 1.5 breaks if you set the resolution too high
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I just realized I've had MSW-MSA on during all of my RAUNet tests. It barely even made a difference
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>>8125243
I've been using Euler A at 30 steps but I know others have liked Euler Smea DY. CFG can be anywhere from 4-10 generally around 7 is good. resolution should be around 1024 but using RAUNet you can boost that up if you have the VRAM.
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>>8125243
Someone add the retarded resolution sheet to the cleaned up op next thread please
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>>8125249
But you still refuse to explain why it was wrong~ Can't be spreading disinformation that way.
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>>8125250
What the fuck are you talking about
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Pixiv really has been infected by the bbc slop, I posted two sets (at the same time) one high effort with vanilla stuff with 10 pictures and one bbc with two fried very similar pics. The bbc one has 2.5 times more views.
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>>8125254
bbc slop popularity completely disillusioned me about everything
stop chasing numbers unless you are a neet desperate for money
do it for your own enjoyment and have fun, if people happen to love and share your stuff great, no - whatever
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Does anyone know how to generate the “Virgin Destroyer Sweater”? I’ve been having trouble getting the straps to connect from sweater to thigh highs. What tags should I use in the prompt?
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>>8125253
>>8117802
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>>8125263
I'm literally saying to put it in the op you dumb faggot
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>>8125267
Good, so you finally understood.
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>>8125262
go on danbooru and look up the tag if you want the tag for something. it's literally Virgin killer sweater, but if pony still can't understand that you'll need a lora
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>>8125268
no, you're just a retard conflating my post with some other retard for no logical reason. I'm usually one of the people reposting it for newfags
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>>8124176
https://files.catbox.moe/uwsp5j.zip
kagami related outfits (shrine maiden, double buns) are shitte but cheerleader and school uniforms are good
lora has konata's mole knowledge but its overpowered by pony's knowledge, just paint it by hand
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>>8125259
>>8125266
No, unfortunately it's real people. There's a lot of demand for blacked stuff
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I think my brain has gotten tired of AI, it can't make me coom anymore
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>>8125269
That's a different type of sweater.
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>>8125279
Oh I wish I were in your place. Can't even coom with my family around
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>>8125279
Don't worry you can join the text posting team *TM. You get extra points for being bitter.
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>>8125280
then go on danbooru and look up the virgin destroyer sweater for tags used with it, how dumb are you?
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>>8125259
The traffic seems organic enough it just gets more traffic. I wonder if the patreon and subscribestars are real desu...
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>>8125288
That's the tag. I just wanted to educate you about meme sweater types.
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>>8125279
Try LLM, it makes me diamond for some reason. I need to try interfacing tavernai and stable diffusion, it has potential.
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NAI cannot do it. Sad!
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>>8125292
miwiki...
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>>8125291
Yeah I wish I could do LLM but my gpu is too shit
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>>8125292
Do what?
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>>8125294
I mean you can try looking for claude proxies. if you don't have a 48gb gpu you really shouldn't look into local llms tbfampai
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>>8125291
I really can't enjoy LLMs for coom. I'd rather ERP with a hairy ugly man larping as a cute anime girl on flist, I just can't suspend disbelief when I'm chatting with LLMs.
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>>8125294
12B is pure copium but I huff that shit like glue
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>>8125298
I don't remember the model I use but I found something giving very decent results on a 4090, the problem is tavern is a pain to finetune and I have no idea what most of the settings do.
>>8125294
Just mind break characters on character ai, you can teach the ai synonym and it won't trigger the filter.
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>>8125288
Dude, you know prompts aren’t that simple right?
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>>8125305
This is all I use for sampler settings on sillytavern. context template and instruct mode depend more on the model but it's not that complicated.
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>>8125297
A proper virgin destroyer sweater.
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>>8125262
Cute Rabbit.
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>>8125158
Retard take. There is a point where more parameters yield diminishing returns, but that point is much closer to 100B than it is to 2B
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>>8125308
That's literally what it's trained with you stupid faggot
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>>8125309
Is there a way to add a range to the number of tokens in the answer ? Having to manually change each time it answers is a pain and having 500 tokens gpt style answer when asking a very simple question is not fun.
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>>8125316
as evident by sdxl btfo'ing 1.5 thanks to the increase in parameters. poorjeets will deny this thoughever, and claim the diminishing returns conveniently kick in right at the point where their vram runs out
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Herro :3
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My 20 year old self would be pleased
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>>8125318
The best way to control the amount of tokens you get in a single turn is by controlling your first message. A short paragraph first message followed by a short paragraph human turn should result in a short paragraph AI turn and so on.
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>>8125325
ohai
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>>8125304
>doing textgen since AiDungeon1
>current l3 8bs are the first models that don't make me want to rip my balls off since aid2, including all the sloppa 70bs
I'm enjoying myself actually
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>>8125332
check out mini-magnum if you have 12gb of vram. I haven't played with it a ton but it's good from what I have tested.
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>>8125294
I just use proxies, I don't think anything decent fits on my 8gb of vram.
Pony definitely makes it easier to auto generate images that actually match the text compared to the good old days of 1.5 but it still requires enough fiddling that I just do it manually after I'm completely done instead of trying to juggle both at once.
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cascade report: haven't touched it in a month, decided to compare the 3.6b prototype (left) to the e8 of 1b. same settings/seed.
to me the 1b still looks significantly behind, as to be expected really given that the base 1b is a rushed piece of shit shat out by the team at the last minute. it has a lot of 1.5-isms in the rendering and seems to lack the detail and nuance in the face that the 3.6b picks up. can't really judge anatomy too hard as both have a fumble rate depending on the seed. overall i think the final model could be promising, but still a long way to go.
on a 4090, 1b executes the prompt in 3.8 seconds, 3.6b in 6.8 seconds. 30 steps (plus additional 12 for refiner), 768x1344.
artist was kase daiki. i will try artists if you want to see them but don't expect much.
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Anyone know where the debiased estimation option is on easy scripts?
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>>8125342
nowhere, it doesn't have it
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>>8125341
>left
Wow I don't have to train a lora for Rin?
lol
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>>8125345
Fuck, oh well then it is what it is
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>>8125340
q8_0 8B takes 9.7gb with full 8192 context fully offloaded to GPU so you could probably easily fit in a 6bit one on GPU or 8_0 offloaded partially on CPU.
whether that's better than fucking around with proxies is detatable though
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>at epoch 20 vpred finetune produces grey backgrounds
>at epoch 40 vpred finetune produces true black backgrounds
>at epoch 60 vpred finetune produces grey backgrounds
huh
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>>8125342
>>8125345
This is exactly why i stopped using easy scripts lol
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>>8125352
i guess that's called overfitting
>>8125353
is debiased estimation that good?
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>>8125354
>is debiased estimation that good?
It's at least worth a try, it certainly does not lose to minsnr, but some prefer minsnr anyway.
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>>8125355
>>8125353
Dunno every time I tried to run kohya it'd give me some weird fuck up error and never run so I just gave up on it even with fresh installs.

>>8125148
I tried your settings and I get straight mush. Higher CA at all for me just churns pure noise / garbage and higher raunet seems better? If I use the 2x upscaler checkbook at all it gives me fucked up human centipede shit like mutildiffusion upscaler used too. I seem to get best results on default which annoys me. Gonna mess with it more later just didn't have much time after anon patched it in
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>>8125357
can confirm that MSW-MSA either sucks or isn't implemented properly still.
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>>8125357
Check if the easyscripts dev version possibly has it
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>>8125327
If I told myself from 13 years ago that was scraping luscious.net for the like two good studio-drawn doujin cover pics of Misa and other characters I liked what I can do now on my PC he would've thought I was talking about a sci fi movie
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not the anon that genned this, but asking the anon that did (i couldnt find the post), please share the catbox!
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>>8125357
0.6 end_time works for me general purpose. more is probably worse, less could be better.
ca_end_time has to be per-gen IMO, i think 0 should be your default. it took as much as 0.4 to open up a wide view landscape gen. picrel was made for /g/
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https://files.catbox.moe/l7hqp0.png

frankenstein prompt but this is my best effort at RAUNet so far. genned in under a minute on a 3060
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>>8125366
and picrel the open landscape pic where holo was 3x too tall until about 0.4 ca_end_time
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>>8125368
So what's the point of RAUNet anyway?
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>>8125372
make base gens at high res
faster and better than hiresfixing
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have question about dataset
want to make lora from artist that have very inconsistent artstyle, also i mostly want to replicate way he draws faces, so two questions
1. there is about 200-300 images available but i picked about 90 that capture what i want, is this enough?
here examples how different it can look a: https://files.catbox.moe/t9wrd3.png and b: https://files.catbox.moe/6gbtyp.png
2. because faces are usually very small part of image, it's viable to crop them, upsacle and put into dataset along with whole pictures?
for example this https://files.catbox.moe/765tlc.png with previous uncropped one
and yes, somebody already baked this style https://civitai.com/models/596097/rog-oowack-style-lora-for-ponyxl?modelVersionId=665907 but it isn't particular good and faces are completely melted, probably because of problems I mentioned earlier
also if somebody competent would like to bake it,it would be best, ofc i can provide dataset
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>>8125372
basically a drop in replacement for Koyha Hiresfix. I'm genning at twice my standard resolution, what would normally create abominations without intervention.
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Need to switch the character, Mereoleona obsession making me think unwise
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>>8125164
>I want some real fucking traditional, modern art like good old Rutkowski or some meme-tier shit like Bauhaus, maximalist or kitsch. There is so much art in the world and ignoring humanity's capacity for other forms of art is an absolute tragedy.
Jeremy Lipking bros...
Antonio J Manzanedo sisters......
We're so BACK!
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>>8125379
miwiki...
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huh, this image hit the "popular with female users" chart
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adetailer are you ok
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I lied
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>>8125373
>>8125377
Oh that makes some sense now
Because I was like 'this is just a normal image'.
Any QRD on using it?
>>8125375
Most of my datasets are around 90 images
There have been some people saying you should crop them for accuracy but I don't think I've ever seen conclusive evidence desu and I have to assume it would only help actual closeups due to tags and buckets
>>8125381
>style still singlehandedly saving the general
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>>8125394
turn it on, use 1.5X dimensions of a normal SDXL res, start with settings like in/out blocks 3/5, ca in/out 2/7, 0.6 end_time, 0 ca_end_time
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>>8125394
thanks
so, i can have both full images and cropped close ups together in the dataset?
i've been seeing anons claiming that any dups are bad so i wanted to be sure
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>>8125410
Why spam futanari here
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>>8125365
https://files.catbox.moe/zpctpq.png
https://files.catbox.moe/gkigjg.safetensors
its comfyui
the lora still sucks ass
carried by the artist and seed
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>>8125411
Huh?
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>>8125407
I'm pretty sure full image and for example face close-up (if resolution allows) are completely different images to the model and this will NOT lead to overfitting. Have to fully retag the cropped one though.
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>>8125414
>it's not a futacock I swear!
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if nothing else 1.5 is still is useful to test the efficacy of a dataset since you see the results a lot quicker.
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>>8125407
Crops are a personal choice. If you are doing an artist that has something like really unique pupils or such then it may be a good idea to do some portrait crops.
Duplicates are always a bad idea, but another thing to mention in the same line of thinking is CG sets/variation images. If you are using CG sets then just don't go and grab all the images because you will end up with a case where you could have the same image 20ish times and there is only a very small difference between each image.
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>>8125316
>>8125319
excuse me sars, your 4xh100's?????

yeah. that's what i thought.
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>>8125418
Why waste your time baking on a different fucking arch
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>>8125419
I don't think it's only useful for unique pupils, I think you should always do that. Even if artist is not very far from generic in terms of faces, you are still teaching the model what to do during an adetailer/only masked inpaint pass (which basically asks it to generate an image of just the face spanning the whole canvas).
I'd tag them portrait, close-up or face close-up and then use those tags in adetailer pass to make the model recall that particular training data.
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>>8125422
why waste your time making a model that requires a 1.5 model to tile controlnet or animate diff?
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>>8125424
it makes me cum
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>tile controlnet, animatediff
complete garbage
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>>8125417
Is this actual schizophrenia
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thanks you both
>>8125415
yeah i will retag, only thing i'm afraid about this is some random crap overlapping with cropped area
>>8125419
in case of CG sets, when there are, for example nude and clothed variants, then it's still ok to keep them both?
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>>8125418
what not really
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>>8125419
I have to question crop logic just because it if were real then all the basic bake tools would automatically crop every image into tiny chunks
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>>8125201
You can have a single controlnet handling multiple people, as long as the lines don't crisscross too much. Loading them individually takes huge amounts of Vram and may require comfy.

You can use regional prompt to prompt character features in specific areas, where those characters happen to be.
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>>8125427
I still have only used controlnet out of the weirder extensions and that was both for like 3 minutes max each
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>>8125432
>in case of CG sets, when there are, for example nude and clothed variants, then it's still ok to keep them both?
Personal choice. I have used sprite rips from various VNs in my datasets to no issue but try to ensure there is at least some variation in them such as facial expression or poses.
If you are using a CG set then just try to make sure there is a decent amount of differences between the two images. Say your first image was just the girl lying on a bed while fully clothed and then the variant image was her sprawled out on the bed after sex then there is enough variation there.
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>>8125386
lmao
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>>8125410
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>>8125436
It's real, but you can't automate it. You need different tags, you need to crop rather precisely and paying attention to still have a composition that makes sense and so on. Also not every image is suitable for cropping due to not having high enough resolution.
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>>8125443
pumping
please can you add the dark haired catgirl for the ultimate hdg trinity?
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>>8125432
>in case of CG sets, when there are, for example nude and clothed variants, then it's still ok to keep them both?
NTA but yeah sure if you don't have any other images then it's good but anon is right that variety is key. Having too many of the same composition can lead to bad composition fry in.
I'd generally try to limit myself to two of the same composition, clothed/nude, or clothed/cum or whatever.
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>>8125443
Cute, freckles are contagious
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>>8125386
As with any other inpaint, remove other parts of the prompt if you're going high on denoise. Keep just the character tag, things that affect her facial expression and optionally hair.
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>>8125445
Two out of three from the same anon
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>>8125443
Veiny penis in negs? Kinda based for a filthy hag genner.
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>>8125449
I am just posting the funny picture, my others from the lot worked fine
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>>8125452
is just denoise strength gacha
sometimes 0.5 will fuck shit up sometimes not
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>>8125453
Nice pic
Who was that, I forgot her name?
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>>8125456
it's your gen, you gotta know
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>>8125457
>1min10s
But you are me, anon...
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>>8125429
one faggot likes to shitpost or is a legit nutcase
another one copies him and joins in
it's all schizo behavior regardless
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>if you don't like the futacock spam you must be a schizo
fuck off
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>>8125462
Hey, stop spreading misinformation, I would never have time to shitpost THAT much by myself!
Also not the anon that spams futa allegations, but holy fuck pony cocks are disgusting and that faggot just does cock worship images 24/7. Ew. This is /h/ sir?
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>>8125466
It's NAI doe.
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>>8125386
I thought it was a smea problem but any if the new ruler DYs can get fucked by adetailer. Happens to me on all like that so I've tried lowering the range adetailer has but not much helps it and it happens randomly is the worst part no consistency on why.

>>8125366
I'll take a crack some more tonight just gonna autism tweak it incrementally I think. Was gonna say something but realized your using xyz so I guess it's supported there now should make the testing easier.
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>>8125410
>2 right hands

>8125411
Futa schizo please
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>curated all my dataset again
>improved all tags
>put all 50 pics in Photoshop and fixed all little details, cropped and removed backgrounds
If this doesn't give me a good character lora now I'll kys myself in Minecraft.
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Sirs?
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always around the same hour
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>>8125474
Could just mask all the little details, and most backgrounds. A lot less work, and it won't learn the style of your manual fixes, or the composition of awkward crops.
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So I did an oopsie while training and only saved the last epoch for the suga hideo lora, but for now the results of retraining old datasets with the iztah prodigy settings is that it seems to be on par or slightly better than my older settings?
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>>8125469
Can't you use one of the boring old samplers for the adetailer step?
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>>8125482
>>8125483
Based but it's melting, bro. Could you run an adetailer pass on the first image to check if it at least face can be salvaged?
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>>8125474
>curated a style dataset twice the size of a previous one
>it baked worse than the first one twice now
owari
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>>8125456
>>8125457
Wut
Also, It's Yamato from one piece
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>>8125490
Yeah that's because it's the 100th and I had it set to save only the last one like an idiot, there is no salvaging it without rebaking it
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>>8125492
why is the gen so fucked up, are you using some retarded new sampler or something?
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>>8125496
Some pixelart lora threw all oldfags in a frenzy
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>>8125488
Damn you can I think I dunno why I didn't think about that. I kept fucking with changing it for upscale on hires to cope around upscaling the Dy samplers. Bless you anon
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>>8125498
that's supposed to be pixel art? okay
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>>8125491
I'm convinced some artists are just fucked for Pony. Feels like half the time I bake it's completely perfect or it's so off I swear I used the wrong dataset for the artist I wanted
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>>8125501
Skill issue.
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>still seething about kino that saved /hdg/
lol
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>>8125501
It was the same artist but yeah it's weird
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I will gen only iztah for a month just because it makes nogensars seethe so much desu
>>8125492
Ah yeah I knew I recognized her from somewhere.
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>>8125493
Fuck it, I'm gonna rebake everything overnight and wake up for some proper testing
See you all next thread
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>>8125514
What do you mean seethe though, I love watching others work. It's true that most of you are shit at this, but sometimes I might even steal a good genners catbox and then never gen anything in return!
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>>8125501
pony cant do soft styles. its a complete garbage model what did you expect? this was stuff we discover back in february
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How do I stop gooning to pregnant milfs for hours on end? It always starts off innocent but then spirals out of control
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>>8125522
Well like that
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>>8125525
Idk what you are talking about though... It's not like I'm one of those weirdos who are pushing from text to image ratio. I just don't gen for /hdg/, that's all.
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>16:37:15
>16:38:16
jajajajaja
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>>8125445
got it, took a little bit of fiddling
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>"You see, in the first chart we see that the introduction of itzah cut the text post to image ratio by half. We should expect that in the next thread it will be 600 posts to 300 images."
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>>8125527
You are tilting at windmills bro...
>>8125529
Pretty high effort for a filthy hag genner!
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Never. I'll just have an infinite argument with the other schizo and well be back to 2k in no time
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>Replies: 1167 / Images: 263
nogensisters... not like this...
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Hehehehe
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>>8125534
outrageously based
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>>8125536
/h/ went from seeders to leechers the last couple of years
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>>8125538
KO NO SU BA
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posters like these who put no effort into their gens remind me that despite all the memes miqoanon and cathaganon are pretty high effort posters
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>>8125546
Well bro is trying to up the image count all by himself, I also think it's a wrong thing to aim for but it's his idea of a perfect thread I guess:3
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>>8125530
>itzah
excuse me who? what?
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Activate the emergency discord screenshots
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>>8125550
some random mexican
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I miss Nayuta anon and his sexy nai girls...........................
I think he might be dead:(
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>>8125546
at least the majority of them has good hands

btw where are your own high effort posts nogensissie?
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Nogensars, is there really no way?!
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>>8125555
yeah lets talk about some naiposter since even the antinai melt schizo left the thread by now
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>>8125561
I don't think it works like that. Pretty sure month starts for them whenever they pai for sub...
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>>8125555
Glowies got him
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>>8125546
Or they use a style that's less prone to the usual AI mistakes
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I miss the OG miqo fucker anon
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SARS NOO!!
NOOOO!!!!
DO NOT REDEEEM
DO NOT REDEEM THE IMAGE LIMIT
DO NOT REDEEEEeeEEeEEeeEEeeeM
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>>8125565
If the style is so good it takes no effort to gen basic images, you can always channel the effort into getting more difficult compositions.
Effort and /hdg/ are things that rarely coincide though.
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>>8125570
Redeemful was done
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>>8125470
Ah shit, you're right.
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>>8125573
Bro NEVER. That's too far. Work on your shitposting if you care about ratio this much........
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>his waifu isn't juggling pins and balancing on a giant rubber ball in his sex gens
no effort poster
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>>8125576
How about it's at least not 1girl standing?:) Too much?
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>>8125570
and now do a handsome indian male
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>>8125574
Where cock?
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>>8125572
MAAAAN!!!!
WHY YOU DO THIS!!!1111
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>>8125582
Hidden futa pernis
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I'm sorry nogens, no matter how hard I tried, I wasn't able to make her juggle
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>>8125592
The balloon frogs are turning the damn clowns gay...
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>>8125500
It looks very messy, honestly. No clean pixel lines.
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gensisters, our response?
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>>8125555
Haven't genned much of her lately but here's some random stuff I made if you like it
but it's too /b/ and low effort
https://files.catbox.moe/nzc69x.zip

>those quads
nice
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>>8125599
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>>8125601
I love you <3

Put some effort into s-4093569934008.jpg, it's a good gen, but needs clean-up.
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>>8125603
feetsa
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>>8125603
>he spent 1000 hours baking lora for this
Local-bros?:(
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>>8125603
Amazing
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>>8125603
/h/?
>>8125607
kek
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>>8125605
i blame astracookie for this
>>8125607
>1000 hours
true...
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>>8125603
Wife...
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>>8125603
>>8125605
>>8125609
>>8125614
>>8125615
check
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>>8125603
cute wife
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>>8125603
oh my wife...
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>>8125616
https://files.catbox.moe/f7hbai.png
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>>8125603
This post? Based
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>>8125603
oh my h*ck is that a sexualised kid? I must samefag
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>>8125607
One tootsie sniffa makes it right
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SAVE ME HAGGERMAN
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>>8125624
Fat hag jealousy.........
Never-ending...
All-consuming...
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i come to these threads once every few months, and every time i don't understand any of the new words being said
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>>8125634
skibidi gen brainrot denoising is fanum taxing my gpu
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>>8125574
>tiny room or tiny desks
More I use pony less I even care about backgrounds and just have simple backgrounds it's object permanence is a nightmare
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>>8125640
>simple_backgroumd 1.6M
AIbros are finally becoming real artists...
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What makes multiple anuses appear with my lora?
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>>8125642
your lora must be ass
ha ah
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>>8125370
catbox?
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I've been working with RAUNet for a bit now. My main complaint is that I start getting double navels as soon as I start working with style loras. It might be my prompt is shit but I thought I'd mention it.
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I need a woman like this in my life
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>>8125647
Damn, what happened to her face?
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>>8125649
Chinkified
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>>8125645
here https://files.catbox.moe/idvygb.png

and picrel https://files.catbox.moe/9yu80z.png
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>>8125649
Cri du chat syndrome
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>>8125647
1.5 jap babyface sovl
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>>8125653

stunning gens. Thank you.

--

But wtf is going on here? Is this using like 40 loras?
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>>8125656
its comfy
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I wish kohya showed time til the end of the epoch
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>>8125656
some comfy nodes have lots of empty slots, idk which one that would be exactly. load the image into comfyui to see the actual configuration
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>>8125657
...
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>>8125657
erm that looks uncomfy actually
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>>8125101
Idk it's a very strange thing. I think it might be a similar concept to prompt bleeding. For example I once tagged a pair of shorts as "hotpants" the old term rather than "short shorts" the new term. This allowed me to better prompt other clothing with "shorts" in the name with minimal bleed but not short shorts. I also managed to solve my ringed eyes problem by pruning ringed eyes in the dataset but also prompting it.
>>8125133
Someone recommended only tagging eyes in the images that are done the way you'd like and are close-up enough to be seen very clearly. It helps AI to use the info from those specific images rather than all of them. You can also head out of frame in the images that have eyes off model.
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>>8125657
>>8125659
Thanks.

Kind of annoying that every install of SD or now comfy needs the models inside their directory structure, meaning I have to have multiples of each model on my drive. But glad to know I've got a new tool to learn.
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>>8125663
it is

>>8125659
Efficiency Nodes is actually awful under the hood, an incompatible with most other nodes. I wish people would just drop it.
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>>8125668
the path is configurable
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>>8125669
i dont use the efficiency loader anymore for normal gens because it was incompatible with negpip, but the efficiency XY nodes are best in class as far as i know
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>>8125604
here some more bro
https://files.catbox.moe/kk5s6t.png

https://files.catbox.moe/7aet7d.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6ia1uu.png
https://files.catbox.moe/wyp1e1.png
https://files.catbox.moe/m2hkp3.png
https://files.catbox.moe/kbfknw.png
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>>8125676
the face and body different is weird but honestly kinda works
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>>8125667
>tagging eyes in the images that are done the way you'd like and are close-up enough to be seen very clearly
okay that's smart, and should work in tandem with >>8125423 aswel
two more bakes i guess...
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anyone know of any concept lora for pouring liquid onto oneself?
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>>8124327
You can't be serious.
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>>8125683
Preferably gasoline.
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>>8125273
Thanks. I didn't know multi character loras were possible. I'll have to figure this out.
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A kind shill humbly reminds anons about the best tagging utility in its class
https://github.com/Eugeoter/waifuset
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>>8125301
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning? What happens in your mind when you read a book?
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>>8125676
Adetailer please thanks!! (it doesn't cost anals if you set it up at 1024x1024 in webui)
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>>8125687
there are hundreds of multichar loras on civitai, i don't know how they're being made so i just reused both singular char datasets with same tagging and baked them together
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>>8125684
Are you? Compare it to every other sprite art in this thread, it looks like typical Pony slopshit with a crappy crayon effect on the edges to make it look "pixelated". Your standards are fucking non-existent.
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>>8125704
Skill issue. Just bake a better lora. Pony is flexible as fuck
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>>8125705
>Pony is flexible
lol
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>>8125705
>Pony is flexible as fuck
PFFFTHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAH MY SIDES I AM DYING

I CAN'T BREATHE
I CAN'T BREEEEEEATHE HOLY FUCK
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Gensisters... Steiner... he didn't attack...
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uh oh melty...
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>>8125706
>>8125710
>responding seriously to such an obvious sarcasm
wtf... anons?
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>>8125713
>responding
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>They fell for the most obvious bait
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>>8125713
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>8125702
>there are hundreds of multichar loras on civitai
Most of those are shit and in some of them the guy comes out and says it's shit or that it was his first lora kek. This was thought to be impossible because if just fuses all of the character features together. I do have a plan for how it might work but I'm too tired/have too many pictures of the characters to even test this out.
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>>8125719
I wonder how good it would work to give them their tokens and include hundreds of images of them solo and then only some together
As impossible as that dataset is
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>>8125719
it's not impossible, obviously, but i do think it's a waste of time for the most part
you're just increasing the amount of things that can go wrong for no real payoff
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Are there better options than pony if it's so inflexible? I've been trying since yesterday and most of the gens are shit so far.
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>>8125723
NAI duh, it's objectively better in every way.
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>>8125723
if you mean besides paying 25$ then no
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>>8125721
Well I was told that if you include a couple pics of the characters together in the same image then you can prompt them together. Ideally you'd make two solo datasets as normal, have a new folder with like 5-10 pics of them together via regional prompter, then have two more solo folders where you prune all the tags related to their appearance and outfit so it gets bundled to their character name but it would be too many steps to bother trying.
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>>8125726
Poor people should not be allowed to live.
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>people still pretending they are newfags here
come oonnn
don't make me gen 20 pics myself to shut you up
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>>8125727
>if you include a couple pics of the characters together in the same image then you can prompt them together
this simply isn't true
pony sucks too much at generating two characters with distinct features so you have to use regional prompter or forge couple anyways
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>>8125723
Have you tried some of the mixes? Autismmix has been way better than the base pony model in my limited experience. Also feel free to drop a catbox image from what you've tried, there are plenty of helpful people here willing to go over your prompt and provide recommendations
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>>8125723
no
and nai is honestly pretty bad
look at any nai images prompt and its a huge word salad with 100 negs just to tard wrangle it like {{{{{amazing quality}}}} and {{{{{disfigured}}}}}}
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>>8125731
*of myself
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uh oh astrasimp melty...
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>>8125736
>and nai is honestly pretty bad
Ponyfag detected, opinion discarded.
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>>8125719
>This was thought to be impossible because if just fuses all of the character features together.
konata's jitome gets overwritten with tsurime in my bake sometimes but you can always use negative prompt to mitigate that
the only bad thing about multichars is if some character has unique outfit it will be diluted because of other chars taking up space that could be used for that specific outfit, but if more characters are sharing same outfits they can become more consistent, single loras have gacha cheerleader uniform due to sparse dataset but when they're merged together it gens more consistently
https://files.catbox.moe/nq1tye.jpg left is multichar, right is single
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>>8124339
>>8125185
>>8125233
Bait used to be believable.
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nai negs be like:
{bad}, error, [[fewer]], extra, missing, chromatic aberration, signature, extra digits, username, scan, [abstract], {koikatsu, koikatsu (medium), sketch, unfinished, deviantart, worst quality, bad quality, lowres, low quality, displeasing, very displeasing, monochrome, comic, censored, mosaic censorship, bad hands, bad anatomy, bar censor, worst quality, bad perspective, artistic error, aliasing, resized, image sample, bad proportions, blurry, monochrome, simple background, blank eyes, symbol-shaped pupils, @ @, jpeg artifacts, scan artifacts, } [[ fewer digits]], extra digits, {bad hands}, bandage, bandaid, absurdres, incredibly absurdres, {{{{white-skinned male}}}}, {{{male focus}}}, white man, furry, monster",
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>not prompting on vqgan+clip
normalfag newfag allfag
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>>8125745
post the gen you copied this from i need to see the abomination
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>>8125411
Is the futanari in the room with us right now, anon?
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>>8125747
>post the gen
He almost got us, textsisters
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>>8125745
That's just user's skill issue though...
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>>
YOUR NEXT LINE IS: lolis are pedo
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>>8125741
>opinion I disagree with detected
>opinion discarded
/hdg/ in a nutshell
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>>8125754
fucking based
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Hello nogen my old friend.
I've come to mald you again...
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>>8125754
That face gives me major deja vu
Wasn't there a cartoon goth thingie that looked like that?
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>>8125573
>caught the banhammer himself instead
Nice.
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>8125754
>same generic nai artists
>best quality, amazing quality, [[[[very aesthetic]]]]"
people PAY for this?
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>>8125760
this kills the nogen
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>>8125760
hell yeah bro, give me a high four
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>>8125292
try miwiki again with >>8125754 prompt
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>>8125059
>that pic
Don't know how to do this anon but I just wanted to wish you good luck on your lora.
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>>8125765
lol that was funny
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>>8125760
>matching 4-fingered hands
They found each other! In this world of 8 billion people and counting they found their perfect match! So jealous!
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>>8125760
why is it so blurry?
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>>8125726
I don't mind paying money. Which one costs 25$?

>>8125735
I haven't tried the ponymixes. I'll give it a go.

>>8125741
which one is nai? the old animefinalpruned and its mixes? Or....?
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>>8125777
sd1.5 sovl
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Lets say a new vidya/anime character is revealed, how long does it take for NAI to be able to generate them?
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>>8125777
best gen itt
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>>8125779
roughly 2 hours
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>>8125775
Because of all the movement?
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>>8125779
they have to release a new model, so one to two years at this rate
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>>8125779
Roughly 2 years.
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>>8125777
>the old animefinalpruned and its mixes?
kek I don't understand. The old NAI was a leak from a company. That company has since made two more versions of their model with v3 being the best model currently. By NAI they mean go pay the company $25 to use naiv3 model each month.
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handholding my waifu <3
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>>8125782
So THIS is how high quality /hdg/ posting looks. Yeah, I can see how it's so much better than all the nogens!!!
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>>8125760
Actually, catbox? How do you get her mouth like that or is it just gacha?
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>>8125787
based
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>>8125789
>people unironically like this retarded :<> "orgasm" mouth that all the jap gooners overuse to death
Holy fuck I thought it was a meme.
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>people unironically like these retarded images on an image board
Holy fuck I thought it was a meme.
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>>8125788
You're pulling my leg aren't you?

>>8125778
>>8125780
Cheers, I was trying to recreate erahunter situations.
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He sure is doing a mad dash to make up for lost time as he's no where near 2000.
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>>8125796
Who are you talking about bro ?
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>>8125796
>mad dash to make up for lost time
>making fun of the 512x512 newfag
No it just needed to be said bro.
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>>8125786
Yeah I think that's the one I was using to create stuff like >>8125777 and >>8125795 and >>8125048 and >>8125023


Also was using remixed models such as abyssorangemix and Aom2-7th
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>only half of last thread's
It's so over, textsissies...
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>>8125803
neat scenarios here. you should try counterfeit v2.5 (not v3) too, very capable for nswf and very good looks.
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>>8125786
Where can I actually buy their v3 model? It's stunning how hard this stuff is to find with search engines.
>>
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>>8125804
Are you having fun at least? It would be a shame if you genned half the image limit here just to "save the thread from nogenners". A colossal waste of time....
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>>8125808
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>>8125805
>neat scenarios

Thanks, I'm refinding some of my old material here and picking some that I still like. It's nice to see I'm not the only one that likes them.

>counterfeit v2.5


This?

https://civitai.com/models/10443/counterfeit-v25-25d-tweak
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>>8125807
novelai dot net
Just don't gen melty mess like this anon >>8125812
Take some good prompts from other people to get started.
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I wasn't but NOW WE'RE TALKING!
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>>8125807
https://novelai.net/
subscribe in the opus tier
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>>8125808
>>8125812
miwiki...
now im considering baking whole cast
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>>8125766
That's a virgin killer sweater, not a virgin destroyer sweater. They are different.
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>>8125824
oh, never seen that one
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>>8125819
https://civitai.com/models/4468?modelVersionId=7425
no, this one
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>>8125803
>>8125819
good stuff finally someone posting gens
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>>8125820
or farm slop for points to turn into more slop on civitai
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>>8125822
>https://novelai.net/
ahh it's not locally run. That's kinda annoying. I don't want to think about others being able to see what keywords I use.

I still might give it a go, but what a shame.
>>
does reforge support glora?
seeing a lot of:
ERROR:root:ERROR glora diffusion_model.middle_block.1.transformer_blocks.3.attn1.to_out.0.weight mat1 and mat2 shapes cannot be multiplied (1280x1280 and 8x1280)
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textsisters...
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>>8125831
Bro there are TENS OF MILLION images on pixiv with depraved loli and toddler rape generated with nai. You won't stand out, trust me.
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>>8125831
NAI was founded by anons who were pissed off about what happened to AI dungeon. These are the last people that would care about what you're typing in.
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>>8124943
Shit I completely missed that
It was genned with Smea Dy
https://files.catbox.moe/g8epvt.png
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>>8125766
>>8125824
Here's virgin killer miwiki anyways. NAI has no trouble with this one. I think the other one is just too new.

>>8125825
It's the one in >>8125262. Basically a crop top that connects to thighhighs.
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Take a shot everytime someone on jordachs discord says the the current partial epoch has massively improved
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>>8125834
>>8125835
I also used midjourney for a year for some projects I was working on. I just really dislike things not running locally. Maybe I'm mad, but I still prefer to run things locally.
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>>8125840
No thanks I can just pay for nai with the money that amount of alcohol would cost.
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>>8125840
Sorry but I'm not a discordtranny!
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>>8125842
Kek whatever happened to Midjourney anyway? People were constantly mentioning it for some time and then not.
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>>8125842
oh didn't see the hands on this one, lol.
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>>8125820
Sorry, I'll only post in hdg approved styles from now on
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>>8125845
yeah you're just a spammer
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>>8125847
midjourney is still far above local aesthetically and creatively, it's just incredibly useless for anything other than instagram art-bait. the upscalers are also quite shit and it fries hands/eyes quite often too.
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>>8125849
It's not about /hdg/ approved, it's just obviously melty shit that looks objectively worse than any of the single artist in that mix.
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>>8125847
people who need it pay for it, it's pretty good for what it is (making pretty pictures and stock illustrations much easier and better than sd)
the imagegen hype is significantly lower now so no wonder you don't see it mentioned anymore.
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>>8125847
They seriously restricted the amount of free generation you could do (before you could just keep making new discord accounts to get new x amount of free gens). I paid for it and continued to use it.

I still like the quality for a number of things. Particularly if I want historical art styles it's just very good, which was useful for the historical games I was working on. I'd go to conventions and people would keep telling me how great it looked, with 1 in 25 that also had great art coming up to me and saying "So, I'm glad I'm not the only one who uses AI art".
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>>8125845
yeah you're just hispanic
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>>8125850
Yup, and here's your next delivery!
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genbros are we back?
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>>8125854
Are you the same 4090 anon that said pony was inflexible?

Can you send a catbox of one of your pony gens? Its far better than whatever you are currently on. don't be baited into buying a nai sub either.

You are most likely missing something important on your prompts.
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grrrr i hate images so much!!!!
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>>8125856
Next thing you should do is single-handedly push /edg/ to the bump limit, you have perfect images anyway. I bet they will be so happy to have you the cheers of approval will push their text-to-image ratio into /hdg/ levels.
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imagebros... it is over...
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>>8125857
Booba!
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>>8125856
please start using a tripcode so i can filter you
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>>8125859
More likely having something extra in your prompts. Like the full battery of score tags, and a bunch of schizo negs.
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>512x512
Like in the good old days.
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>>8125864
just filter my resolution retard
i'm basically 85% of the posts with it
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>>8125858
Outstanding image to finish this wonderful thread. Thank you for posting!
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>>8125866
after 9/11
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Someone bake with the shitty new op so we can reach 2k again
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>>8125867
that's a standard base resolution you fucking imbecile
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>>8125873
yes and I'm basically 85% of the posts with it you illiterate cunt
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>>8125849
>>8125857
thank you for posting luckies
>>
You're not the real journalism
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>>8125867
>just filter all the NAI posters
>no, don't worry, no ulterior motives
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>>8125880
>nai posters
for that you'd need to filter text posts, anon
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>>8125881
OOOOOOOOOO
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>>8125880
Not all though! Shutenbro is rich enough to gen at resolutions where nai actually doesn't suck.
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Whats the controlnet meta?
Using autismmix
>>
https://files.catbox.moe/zueo2m.png
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>>8125883
Only reso where nai doesn't suck is 0x0
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>>8125884
anytest
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>>8125885
i kneel
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>>8125884
controlnet is localcope and can't fix ponies object permanence issues or stiffness. Just buy a nai sub
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>>8125885
based year 20120 enjoyer
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>>8125885
can i get a non blurry version?
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>make the perfect model and tech behind it that enables generating top-tier-artist level images at 2k resolution
>limit users to 832x1216
>everyone just produces low quality sloppa
CONGRATULATIONS, NOVEL AI! YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED.
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>>8125892
Anon, maybe... just maybe... maybe you need your eyes checked?
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>>8125893
You are only limited as much as your wallet is. You can generate at any resolution you want.
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>>8125893
There's no limit, NAIfags are just mostly jeet turdworlders that can only afford 25$ a month for their 10k anals.
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>>8125893
The good old Made with Unity splash screen effect
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>>8125893
Just imagine though, if there's an employee in NAI who wanted to leak the model. They visit 4chan and see the state this general is in. Are you sure they won't change their mind?
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>>8125895
>>8125896
Of course there's no limit. Yet only shutenanon generates at higher base resolution and pixiv is 95% 832x1216.
So yeah, point stands, effectively they gimped the quality of images in astronomical way.
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use warmup ratio training?
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>>8125902
It isn't their fault 95% of their userbase are poors who are only using NAI because they can't afford to gen locally. Blame the people using it.
>>
Good news guys! The newest cascade partial epoch has snapped into place. It's clearing up so fast it's scary!
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>>8125902
It's not like they can't upscale like real people, they're too poor for it.
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When the bait fails just bait harder
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>>8125893
Lol, that's exactly why they have over 300 card that each cost 30k retard. They know they have the best model, thez know they can charge for it. Midjourney for insta, nai for porn there's a reason they make a shitton of money. and they literally have ZERO competition in that field.
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>>8125907
>noimg
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>>8125902
Don't be too hard on them. They need their compute for another llm finetune. Can't waste it on some kiddy porn and blacked
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>>8125905
What about the eyes and backgrounds?
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>>8125899
general in this state exactly because v3 is closed
it was literally predicted back in based64, sour grape freetards will go crazy due to seethe when a superior closed weight model drops
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>>8125908
>over 300 card that
SIRS DO NOT REDEEEM THE CARD!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>8125896
Lol, I would stop using nai if all other models wouldn't be pure dog shit. I have more than enough money, it's just that no many how many 4090 I buy the models dont get magically better.
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>>8125912
Already much better than pony's.
>>
naughty hours
https://files.catbox.moe/yrns3z.png
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>>8125917
Can you make her 3 years older, taller, skinnier and with small breasts?
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>>8125917
>nerfed miwiki
blasphemy
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New thread:

>>8125921
>>8125921
>>8125921
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>>8125915
Maybe learn how to gen with comfy?
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>>8125924
if you could gen NAI-tier images with comfy people would already moved to it
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>>8125924
>maybe if I slap more nodes, extensions and samplers my pony images will stop looking like sepia acoslop...
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>>8125913
I fucking bet that the leak will never happen just because no one itt can behave themselves regardless of the circumstances.
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>>8125930
People just have skill issues. Jump from NAIs handholding to comfy is just too great
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>>8125934
Why would the leak depend on /hdg/ in any significant way bro? Delulu much?
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>>8125934
why the fuck would they give a shit about us
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>>8125942
this general is the focal point of imagegen
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>>8125945
lol
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>>8125941
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>>8125946
Oh wey, do you think the leak will happen on Reddit?
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>>8125950
The leak won't happen. That was a one-time thing. The guy responsible is still in their dungeon being brutally tortured every day and the rest of their employees have a live feed on the action to keep them from making the same mistake.
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>>8125902
I almost always gen higher res images, unless it's just a lazy image to demonstrate a point.
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>>8125961
It was a hack.
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>>8125847
Everyone has moved on to videogen.
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>>8125413
thanks anon
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>nai has the best model
>vastly worse than pony
give up your sunk cost on nai
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>>8124298
Sorry. Did not see you there. Thanks for that. Very cute IA indeed.



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