Cardos Anime editionPrevious Thread: >>8123462>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wikiOptimizations *NEW*https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824>LOCAL FORGEUIMaintained branch:https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/257749/https://civitai.com/models/288584/https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnetIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfEF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
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Forgot to use the logo. Next time. Anyways I made a new install and I'm trying to recreate/modify some old gens. But something is going wrong. What could be the difference here?
one large nai melty please, and make it extra blurry
>>8125931It's the VAE! But both gens are pretty good.
>>8125931What model are you using? The generation being more washed out in terms of colors could indicate you don't have a VAE selected.
Any new models?
Eternal gen edition
>>8125948ponyslopdreammix v16 by rakeshdo, released yesterday
>>8125832>does reforge support glora?>seeing a lot of:>ERROR:root:ERROR glora diffusion_model.middle_block.1.transformer_blocks.3.attn1.to_out.0.weight mat1 and mat2 shapes cannot be multiplied (1280x1280 and 8x1280)reading the code, no, reforge does not support a lot of lora variants, a side effect of forge regular.a1111 appears to have fairly good support of variants, could this be added to reforge?
>>8125944I did have a vae selected, here was the non-vae version. But maybe it wasn't the right vae.but there's also a subtle difference in hand position (both faulty, but both different). I thought vae only affected colors, not structure?
>adding a thigh token for the thing on the front of the thigh strap actually worked>still puts it on the wrong thigh 75% of the timeincredible
>>8125937But saar, you already have a melty?
>>8125948neta2
>>8125957You will be inpainting asymmetrical character features, and you will be happy.
>>8125944Cheers I found the right vae. The model is the cardos anime model. It's not a flexible model, but it has a nice unique kinda retro look. OP was also made with cardos.
>>8125952What is slop?
>>8125956Bro maybe leave imageposting to people who know what they are doing while you are figuring out your setup?..
>>8125960nice
>>8125262it's doable on pony but probably requires more effort than you'd like.lowres https://files.catbox.moe/qvjiiw.pngredraw https://files.catbox.moe/7lh1ps.pngupscale https://files.catbox.moe/mw2653.pngdo check and note the differences in prompt between the lowres and the upscale. >>8125832works on my machine.Neither forge or reforge have had any issues using any glora's I've thrown at it.
>>8125956Probably not a vae issue then. Are you using a SD 1.5 model or a SDXL/Pony one? What program are you using to generate said pictures?
>>8125963thanks for sharing, looks pretty good
>>8125965I mean, what's wrong with asking questions? And his images are pretty good already. We need more image posters anyway.
>https://civitai.com/models/9139/checkpointyesmixCan somebody explain, why, after over 2 years, we STILL HAVE THE FUCKING SLOP LOOK????FUCKING WHY? Every fucking closed model doesn't look that fucking bad, why does that shit look like v1 nai leak mixed with realism? Naileak fucking when? I'm not joking, every single week I hope a new model release since pony, but those trannies literally stated, that we will have to pay for a fucking API in order to use the newest and best models. Now, there has been nothing released for like half a year, wtf is going on? Is it THAT hard to just make a new model?
>>8125964Everything that NAI produces
>works on my machine.Can I see your glora config? I must be doing something wacky
model pose check timecan your model consistently reproduce this pose without any help (controlnet, lora, etc.)from side, lying, on back, legs up, high heels in portrait orientation
>>8125970Yes amazing images, 2 pixels for each eye and one for mouth!! 2022 hello
>>8125972localjeets love this look though
>>8125978I mean if you don't like it, don't open the images and post something better instead? I enjoy the pics, they have a unique style to them.
3d insidehttps://files.catbox.moe/7f2qbo.png
>>8125977>high heels>clearly just loaferswhat
>>8125972second gen looks pretty but everything else is upscaled aom2what if there are NAI employees that are tasked to create shitbakes and upload them on huggingface/civitai to make people think that after 100 merges they can finally create NAI at home?
>>8125977Cascade cannot. I tested legs up extensively on both proto and 1b - it's fucked. Even foot focus is possible with some persistence, but not legs up.
>>8125968Before I was using stable diffusion webui as it was in february 2023. Currently I'm using a build I downloaded maybe 2 months ago.
>>8125985there's a lot in here that can trip up most modelsupside down heels is one of them
>>8125975if it's from your own bake and you went into it completely blind then ha ha ha, ha. ha.ha.no but seriously no one knows how glora fucking works and I had to do everything from fucking scratch to figure it out.anyway here's a "safe" 32dim config@batch 1https://mega.nz/file/4jcTxCSQ#67USzy_KX3ikk42Ysc7TUNJ7-2vRR33DPeVVFViy4j0
>>8125949Can you do officer Jenny? She always gives me trouble.
>>8125984If only you could make her face more anime-looking, that would be perfect
>>8125990much appreciated
>>8125968Also I'm using the cardos model for that, a specific one that creates high saturated and kinda retro looking anime.
where are all the faggots complaining about muh avatarfags when there's an unironic avatarfag in the thread?
>>8125988Do you know that you can image2image your 512x512 melty garbage into normal resolutions even with 1.5? Maybe it's time to learn to use the tools instead of flooding with low quality crap.
>>8125996Post more with this girl! Love her style.
>>8125998kys nogen
>>8125996Please upscale to 768 at least. It's not that it looks bad (although it does), it's that it could look so much better with minimal effort.
>>8126000 >>8126001Troll posts.
>>8125997Who?>>8126001based
>>8125997its not about "avatarfags", its about image posters they don't like
>>8126003How so?
>>8126006yeah that's exactly the point of my post
Gitlet/programlet here. Can I just download reforge in addition to old forge, or is it a either or thing? Not sure if either modifies some library they're both using.Also, to make a backup, can I simply copy my forge folder to an external ssd and copy it back in case something goes wrong?
>>8125977https://files.catbox.moe/tdtioa.pngthat said, your restrictions of "you can't use lora's or controlnet!" is pretty fucking stupid in relation to local since there's nothing actually restricting the use of it.
>>8125997>>8126008>an unironic avatarfag in the thread?Who? Literally have no idea who you're talking about.
>>8125977Pony and mixes (I'm using Reweik) seems to be able to do it without too much issue.
>>8126007Encouraging low quality posts. It takes 5 seconds to upscale 512x512 to 1024x1024 with 1.5.
>>8126014Any post without an image is low quality though.
>>8126019bai bai
>>8126019>People want to fuck this blue gremlin.dangerously based
>>8126011cool pic, but the negs don't seem to be working. i see "jpeg artifacts" and "low quality" in negatives but the picture is both low quality and full of jpeg artifacts, how come?
>>8125760>>8125789So uh, about that catbox?
>>8126011>>8126013nice nicethe goal isn't to say "hey look at how good or bad X or Y is"the goal is to see if a model can do something purposefully weird or unlikely to have naturally occurred in a particular aspect ratio as a test for pose flexibilitymore of a knowledge checkthe no lora thing is again checking if the model can do it, I use loras liberally, but loras usually can't counter a lack of good anatomylike you can't lora train SD3 to unfuck it
>>8126019that face doesn't mesh with the rest of the image.
>>8126021Troll post.
>>8126014Low quality? I like the posts and encourage them because I want to see more. Keep your opinion to yourself, buddy.
>>8125991We already talked about that pretty sure
>>8126010Box me futacock genner
>>8126031>playing retarded
>>8125998It's pretty funny that now that other helpful posters made me figure out my vae issue and got almost identical results to some of these gens from 2023, I was finally able to fix some up with my new GPU and was doing exactly as you suggest and while it was loading I read your post.Though to be honest, I don't see why someone that doesn't post images should be taken too seriously in the first place.Also rescaling doesn't always make things better. Here's the first example of the old version of the one I'm working on now...
>>8126018ani was right
>>8126019She looks fried
>>8126019extremely based>>8126028sounds like a taste issue
>>8126019Sex
>>8126037For whatever reason there's a dedicated schizo living in these threads who seethes whenever images are posted. I'm sure he'll get bored eventually, just keep genning and sharing what you like.
>>8126037you really shouldn't listen to the trolls and keep posting the good stuff
>>8126037And here's the first upscale result:Of course the fidelity is better and as a result, you also have less gore. But I also feel like something got lost in the translation as well, something that made me pick this image to upscale instead of the 50 other gens that I skipped as not interesting enough.
>>8126032Oh it's you. Yeah, never mind. For some reason I thought it was a NAI gen.
>>8126037>I don't see why someone that doesn't post images should be taken too seriously in the first place.you're only 30 minutes itt and you've already picked the right flow, nice
>>8126044Is true, the background got melted into shitKeep posting, 512chad
>>8126044agreed, a lot of the time i prefer base res pics, they are the most expressive i think
very funny trollingahahahahaha
ironic shitposting is still shitposting you retards.
>>8126044That's exactly why you fiddle with prompt and generate high res some more times until you get a better upscale, use inpaint to fix obvious flaws and only post an image. Wouldn't be able to post 30 images per minute if you put some effort, would you?
if you criticize a nai gen i will respond immediately to tell you how not mad i am
>nooo i can't believe a 1.5 genner is getting more (you)s than my year old baitpfft
>>8126054>and only postand only then post
>>8126054>nogen
i'll admit that this is some pretty creative trolling. much better than some of the spammers we've had, at least
>>8126037>>8125996can you post more of the pink hair embarrassed girl?
>>8126056We've been through this many times. Trolls post troll praise for 1.5 newfag gens to encourage more shit. I'm not buying it:)
>>8126064your mistake is assuming that those are two different persons
>I put in so much effort, I post exactly zero images each thread for the last 7 months, trust me, it's the process. The people posting images are the trolls.
>>8126061>creativeit's not creative at all. it's not even new.this retard has been trying to ''encourage'' low quality posts for at least a fucking year now. They're just being obscenely obvious to the point that you can't even second-guess it as just bad taste. They also actually managed to make /e/ completely unusable at this point. It's just low quality garbage the full fucking way through.
>>8126064This is how you cope with the fact that no one likes your slop? Le ebin "trolls"?
>>8126068i'm talking about the person posting the 1.5 gens
>>8126066Nah that guy is actually trying. Just some retards encourage him to not learn anything and post base res 512x512 sloppa. They want this place to be shithole more than any nogen.
I have a backlog of hundreds of high effort inpainted gens that I'll post at the end of a thread that i deem worthy
>>8126069Everybody who posts images is an enemy to the eternal nogen. Hence all the trolling about le pixels bad le style is slop!!! last thread and now him.I gotta wonder what they get out of being in a hentai thread to only post text though. Maybe parental controls.
>>8126054Give me some of yours.Also, I felt greedy to just ask questions, I couldn't fix them because I had issues in the first place, so I thought I shared the best from an old collection.Here's my favorite upscaled version of the streetkiss now that I've got everything working again.
just when I thought /sdg/ is the worst, somehow /hdg/ topped it. apparently /sdg/ has a discord where they watch hentai together. remember when /hdg/ tried to make a discord and it blew up after one day?
>>8126071that guy posted plenty of gens before the ironic shitposters started replying to him thoughi refuse to accept that anybody but a troll would post 512x512 1.5 gens on this day and age
>>8126075hot
>>8126075Yeah that's better but the showcase on the right still turned into the street kek
>>8125977neta sometimes can but that's far from being consistent, like 1/4 of the time
>>8126076We have jordachs discord
Jumpin in on the trend
>>8126082he is a retard training a ded arch and it's full of furries...
>>8126075It's fine for 1.5 and I won't discourage you from posting anymore, but you'll have to move on from 1.5 if you want to up your game. Not in terms of style, because local SDXL is fucking shit for it, but in terms of errors. Like you couldn't get rid of the melty lips and fingers here, but with sdxl you would just get that perfect easily.
>>8126087That discord was my whole world until b- left
>>8126076it wasn't even that bad the last couple of weeks, we've even been free from some of the most malicious schizosbut it does seem like we've got some new schizos that want to fill their position unfortunately
>>8126076yup
>>8126076it's actually a good server. comfy and ani are there with good resources on what's going on behind the scenes. I like the Thai artist anon that draws made in abyss styled art
>>8125977This was a lot more gacha than it should have been but it might have been because of her main outfit. I guess 1girls would be fine.https://files.catbox.moe/ojdvov.png
>>8126098yup
>>8126098never post here again
>le schizo this le schizo thatpost a fucking image already you worthless drain on the servers and the air supply jesus f christ this isn't your discord
>>8126098>comfy and anithese guys never got the recognition they deserve. voldy fucks up regularly and is praised. those two are living their best lives
>>8125977Interesting. The platform heels tag had a bunch of abominations but the high heels tag worked a lot more consistently.
Pixelschizo is back at it again...
>>8126105Hey wasn't this "woman" at the opening of the Olympics?
ani moved to japan 5 years ago to save localhe's almost ready to release his open source anime video model that even beats sora and kling that runs on at least a 2000 series cardhis access to compute is unmatched currently
>>8126089>It's fine for 1.5 no it's not fine for 1.5, it's dogshit for 1.5, if he posted that here a year ago everyone would've laughed at him
>>8126105why does she have 2 navels
>>8126112old but gold, now post that dr head schizo image
>>8126111I don't know, I don't watch TVslop for normalfags, sorey.
>>8126113True but it also took 2+ hours per 1 image. It's obviously not something you can expect from current inhabitants of /hdg/.
>>8126112he doesn't make txt2video models because he said they are useless FOTM. also, he quit that other company because they lied and made everything proprietary. The only thing I know of is he is working for stability now and he is working on a C++ implementation of sd
>>8126114She has two mommies, sirs.
>>8126118Note: 1.5h of that was trying to get a 1girl, standing that didn't have seventeen fingers and a broken hip bone.
>>8126112>open source anime video modelcomputer, generate lucky star season 2
>>8126124how bad do you think it will be if it's as boring as what we have now?
>>8126122I was exclusively generating 1girls back then...>>8126075>Give me some of yours.Here's my 1.5 gen from 2 years ago.
>>8126112it's funny you mock him but he has done more than most if not all of the posters here
>>8126125It doesn't matter. It could be the best thing ever created and oldfags would still hate it because they can't see it through the eyes of a young man
>>8125990https://files.catbox.moe/7245tx.ps1using your settings, as best as I can fit themdid I fuck something up in sd-scripts
>>8126120ani is too smart to be deceived he always thinks 10 moves aheadafter his ai video model is released he will start working on full dive VR technology which should be released in only a couple of years now that him and comfy have linked up
>>8126124please watch one (1) more anime
Is there a tag for this type of succ? Just got it randomly out of regular fellatio.
>>8126131isn't ani an oldfag?
>>8126130Opening a single github issue on a1111/comfy is already more than ani did lol
>>8126134Preferably one with hags
why are you retards talking about /sdg/ namefags here
>>8126127sovl, unironically
>>8126138that doesn't make sense since nobody really uses auto anymore because everyone left for comfy
>>8126141you wouldnt be here if ani didnt pave the way for this technology
>>8126141we talk about astracuck and jordass all the time and they are both retarded so why not talk about the guys that are actually in a position to do something meaningful?
>>8126146this
>>8125977This one worked correctly the first time.
>>8126125>boringits cute girls doing cute things, moe in a nutshellif you've deepfried your brain with FOTS shounens of course you'll think non-shounens anime are le bad>>8126134madoka was nice>>8126140lucky star has kuroi sensei and k-on has sawako, those are the only hags i can tolerate
>>8126148>why not talk about the guys that are actually in a position to do something meaningful?damn, he has a point
>>8126135lol that mouth kinda reminds me of that one old old anime
>>8126148Wasn't he fired from the animation studio and now wastes his days in /aicg/?
>>8126155I don't think he posted in /aicg/ at all and anon said he was working at sai
>/sdg/ schizo has started posting in /hdg/it's never been more over
>>8126150Is she holding a fleshlight between her thighs?
>>8126159No, just a birth defect.
>>8126159She sure is!
>Jordach fell for the smea snakeoilIt's cascover
>>8126135You could try penis in mouth and sucking tip
ani could basically release a model better than anything we have now but he doesnt care for dated technology he only looks forward
How can I make sure the nai extension for webui isn't stealing my api key? I'm retarded in Python
>>8126163glad I didn't pledge a cent
it's all just so tiring.>>8126132dunno. I don't use sd scripts proper and use a, currently almost 4 month old dev branch of bmaltais.if you want a sanity check to see if it's sd scripts or reforge that's fucked you can download any of the lora's from may27th or later from here to tryhttps://mega.nz/folder/1iMEBDhK#2JIP_tjT872S_zM9QDA2Yw
>>8126165considering he was like that in the beginning and where he is at now it's probably for the best he does that
>>8126168that sure is a wide guy
>>8126171For you.
Question!Many prior discussions in past threads were about how to best train style and character loras. But I personally haven't seen much in regards to training concept loras for pony. How different is it compared to training style/char lora? Do you use different settings or and what do you/don't tag in images? How do you prevent style bleed from training images? I trained a concept lora the other day using some settings from the pony rentry, with ok results.
>>8126169that's the thing, your gloras work finetried to raise the issue to kohaku but got told to report it to those responsible, ie: kohya so that was a dead end.gonna reinstall my sd-scripts environment and try again.
>>8126171For them.
>>8126173I bake everything the same way what can I sayIt just works
>>8126113I did post some of these a year ago, considering they are about 15-16 months old. Generally the response has been mild positive.People always misremember the past as more ideal than it was.>>8126079it did in 95% of the upscales. At least this one didn't have weird cars. I suppose the one finger could still be inpainted.>>8126062I can.>>8126127Not quite what I personally like, but it's a close to a peak of a certain aesthetic.
>>8126178>People always misremember the past as more ideal than it was.It's pretty funny hearing people fantasizing about the state of the thread that was widely bemoaned back when it was happening kek
>>8126135Box for the style please
>>8126173I bake concepts with my character preset. I recently came across a concept preset so I use that now instead. I still do everything the same as style except keep n = 1. The hardest part is selecting the right pictures.
>>8126154Well, which one?
>>8126182I think I mean Shin-Chan lol
>>8126179>It's pretty funny hearing people fantasizing about the state of the thread that was widely bemoaned back when it was happening kekwhen? hdg was almost perfect in early 2023 despite all the block merge schizoposting
>>8126037I think I would trust someone without pictures more easily than someone posting your picture and giving me advice
>>8126185the eternal nogen shitposter
>>8126173The only real concern is tag bleedCunnilingus gesture and perky breasts worked well because Pony doesn't even respond to these vanilla but sitting in lap broke it totally because it's such a strong tag>>8126184Around B64 release is when all the schizo shit started in full and for the next year before Pony it was either eternal bait or empty as shit with the same five maidos every thread
>>8126185True, rather take a gamble than a guaranteed loss
>>8126184early 2023 is the only period in which this general has been good desu
>>8126173how did you get just the eyes blue,box?
>>8126180https://litter.catbox.moe/jrziqc.pngMore details here >>8118352I'll rebake the loras better at some point. Right now they're a pain to use even individually, let alone together.
>>8126185Right, but that's my point in the first place. It helps you judge advice.
>>8126174okay that's pretty bizarre then.then again there's an unironically very real possibility sd scripts just completely broke it somewhere at some point while implementing something else. Or it could just need some extra random argument/toggle that is hidden in layers of random bullshit with bmaltais.does the loss chart look normal at all(as in, it's not spiraling up or down in either direction)?also to be a bit more specific, the version of sd scripts I'm using with bmaltais is from april 8th, iirc it was a dev branch directly after they fixed a weird random thing with xl training that was broken/working incorrectly.
why does local smea look nothing like nai's?
>>8126203because it's not smea
>>8126203because there is prompt bleed and it think you want smear all over your picture, unlucky
I tried out the latest partial epoch and it's a HUGE improvement. I think this is the one where cascade definitively eclipses pony.
>>8126203why would it
>>8125991You're under arrest
>>8126062And another one. Is the reprise as good as the original, or was it never topped?
>>8126203because nai has never revealed how their smea sampler works and the local version is only a chink approximation
>>8126174According to the UI code, the only thing it does is expose different UI options when glora is selected and pass this formatted args string:https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss/blob/master/kohya_gui/lora_gui.py#L965-L967Would you be open to running a config for 1 step to dump out the CLI args passed through to kohya?https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss/blob/dev/kohya_gui/lora_gui.py#L1317dump to text or somethingI think it's run_cmd?
>>8126208aiiie save me squirtle squad
>>8126209this one is very cute too
>>8126202>>8126211wrong reply
>>8126178>People always misremember the past as more ideal than it was.No, not really.https://aibooru.online/posts/40247https://aibooru.online/posts/50722https://aibooru.online/posts/41473https://aibooru.online/posts/46499
>>8126192NTA but Adetailer can do that for you in an instant anon.
>>8126181I agree, figuring out what images go into a dataset is hard. Would you mind sharing or can you point me in the direction of where you found said concept settings?>>8126188Oh yeah I think I've had experience with tag bleed before - I think I used a activation tag (complete gibberish) at some point that caused people to become super muscular for some reason in my gens. Important to test out potential activation tags before.>>8126192Just a mix of (monochrome) tag and (blue eyes) with enough emphasis. Might also be the lora I'm using. I'll box ya, give me a moment.Also thanks for the answers!
>>8126224https://files.catbox.moe/z0pn1g.json
>>8126224>complete gibberishThis was your problem. You might have used one of the Three Sacred Characters by mistake.
>nai has the best model>vastly worse than ponygive up your sunk cost on nai.
>>8126203Because it's SME not SMEA (euler ancestral).
>>8126211assuming this is the only line you specifically need here's one from a few days ago since I don't bother shutting kohya down at allhttps://files.catbox.moe/981vc1.txt(don't mind the weird momentum change on this config)
>>8126192Here you go. Beware there might be some schizo tags to get correct angles/composition, but you will get the idea. Also it's a slight duplicate of what I posted before.
>>8126225well yes obviouslymoney is good not only for buying compute but also for paying researchers
Euler SNEEDa Dy
>>8126233>Hardcore_Fucking_Realistic_BBW_Asian_Women-000005top kek
Made with animatediff. I cant get animatediff v3 to work. But hey, v1 is the most dynamic anyway, if you ask me.
>>8126166Any pythonGODS in the chat?
>>8126237wrong board?
>>8126166Why would you worry about this? If someone uses your API key at the same time as you the account gets banned so this wouldn't be a viable strategy for any pirate.
>>8126236I found that lora when bottom scraping on civitai. I think personally it helps improve my gens anatomy a little - might be because it is trained on real human anatomy?
>>8126239What would be the correct board?
>>8126227Thank you for the json. Also I adore the cute little orca in the bottom left!
>>8126241>might be because it is trained on real human anatomyI've been saying this for months but everyone thinks it will only result in aom. "Everything goes in" should be the correct approach since what you want is for the machine to learn. You can't get good hands without actually having good hands. Then you just neg out the parts of the realistic images you don't want and you're golden.
>>8125977Close enough.
>>8126245There's a big big difference between putting knowledge in a base model and shitting it on top of it in a single overfit layer, that will always get you AOM.In fact that's literally what it was.
how worth it is it to make a booth account to sell shit? I'm getting close to 10k followers now and I see AI stuff getting sold there
>>8126233Thanks for the boxWhere did you get that krekkov lora? Its not on civitai and I really like how it looks
>>8126240Better be safe than sorry you know
>>8126237>auto uithere is your problem>>8126242>>>/trash/
>>8126225Look at this way as well. Someone getting paid for probably 8 hours a day to do research is likely going to produce more than results than someone who does it for free.
>>8126249What are you even gonna sell? Also I assume 10k on pixiv?
>>8126254yeah 10k on piviv. I typically do like full 40-50 image set sex scenes for my patreon so I figure if I resell those on booth (censored) it be something japanese followers could buy, wasn't sure how popular booth even was though for selling sets
>>8126258I already almost cant be arsed censoring the one I post on pixiv so good luck censoring the 50, honestly no idea how popular booth is to sell stuff tho, I assume that since its associated with pixiv you can get a better coverage of it than patreonDo you mind sharing your Pixiv? Curious what you might be selling, understandable if you dont want to
>>8126202>>8126232fucking shitokay got it, rolling specifically the lycoris lib back to Apr 8th sorts it.https://github.com/KohakuBlueleaf/LyCORIS/tree/a43c196526bf2d2630bdf9e4fbae780f2e44a0e5Something must have changed in lycoris that is no longer compatible.does it add more/break something else? dunno, don't care. problem solved.
>>8126262It's blacked
With TTT making waves in the llm space, how many decades until it makes its way to imagegen?
>>8126250Here, among others:https://mega.nz/folder/L7Q3XaQC#jg7_M_gCun-aQenQmLISIQ/folder/anxR2DRa
New to this, but if I'm just making OCs, do I have to train it at all?
>>8126274Depends on how intricate your OC is
>>8126273Thanks
>>8126269Tight Teen Tushie?
>>8126269>TTTYou seriously can't expect people to know what such a niche acronym means.
>>8126266>okay got it, rolling specifically the lycoris lib back to Apr 8th sorts it.fucking called it.this is why I refuse to pull shit unless there's something new/it fixes something that's broken. and god fucking knows when that was broken with how no one actually tries to do anything with glora.also, hilariously, I was trying to check a test config on an up to date mainline branch of bmaltais to see if it was broken there and it wouldn't even start, it just halted with a random error and wouldn't actually start training.
Is there any guide for inpaint webui for nai?
>>8126269Teen Titans Tits?
>>8126269it will take longer than you'd like and be worse than you hoped for. welcome to imagegen
>>8126279https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.04620 here's the paper, but it'll be just as cryptic as the acronym by itself
oh yeah i was supposed to try REUNmeme
>>8126262>I already almost cant be arsed censoring the one I post on pixiv so good luck censoring the 50Isn't it really that hard to img2img at low denoise and do (mosaic censorship:1.3)?
>>8126293wait how do you even use it on reforge
>>8126280>this is why I refuse to pull shit unless there's something new/it fixes something that's broken.This is also why I haven't switched to reforge. I appreciate reforge anon but I just never update on principle. My forge works right now (as does my kohya_ss) and I would hate for it to break things just because I wanted a new scheduler or huber loss or whatever. I heard some anon say his loras now come out completely different after he updated kohya. Just not worth it.
>>8126280a9fed bros...
>>8126296It's github, not skyrim on steam. When something breaks just roll it back
>>8126214ok so have one more.
>>8126294I do it through ps and it take 30s but 30sx50 pictures is 25 minutes thats why I said that to the guy
>O-Onii-chan?! Dameeeeeee!!!!
>>8126313weird porn she is looking at
>>8126314She's watching 50 shades of grey.
>>8126314She's watching Twilight.
>>8126313>missing old twitter logo so much you hang a picture of it on the wallFucking nerd
>>8126313Wait a second... That's a LEFT hand.
>>8126313kek what an image
>>8126321Kek I didn't even notice that. Wtf Pony?>>8126323That's her right hand. That's her pinky, she just has really fat fingers.
>>8126313fuckign richfag with two laptops
Should I gen some waifu themes for my 3DS?
>>8126337You should buy an Amazon gift card for me.
cavedweller here, been using autism for ages, there has to be something better by now right?
>>8126346there isn't, ask again in 4 months
>>8126346return to your cave anon, there is nothing for you out here
>>8126348GFD, anything good with sd3 yet?
>>8126350lol
>>8126351yeah i know, thought I would ask, the first weekend I was playing with SD got back onto 4ch and found out lora's had just been released, and I was like WTF is this black magic!?
it's starting to become good...
>>8126350Everything is fucked atm. We're either waiting for the god model or a leak.
>>8126355transformers just got btfo so waiting on anything for that is useless
>>8126360transformers were btfo since 2020 that didn't mean shit
>>8126360so jordach was right in that transformers are useless for imagegen?maybe cascade is the current best architecture after all....
> Be gentle Anon it's my first time ~
disgastin>captcha XYS
>>>/d/
Why did he do it bros?
>>8126360>transformers just got btfoProof?
>>8126364>unet>better than transformers
>>8126376>>8126284
>>8126370>>>/aco/
>>8125977
>>8126385https://www.reddit.com/
>>8126395jej
I don't, like, get it. Clearly, the colors have improved, but why can't it make pure black image which I put in the dataset and instead it outputs some gray mess?
>>8126398I guess I'll try to increase repeats on that black image
I've gotten the images to generate but whenever they finish I get this error, how do I fix this? https://pastebin.com/Paka34eC
>>8126400dunno bro ask chatgpt or get more vram
Sundress anon are you here? What was your prompt again? Rating_safe, backlighting, (see-through:0)?
>>8126386best way to add x-ray to this image?
>>8126413I don't really understand comfy nodeslop but for these types of things I just inpaint the area, type all the things that are supposed to be in that spot and increase their weight, then bump up mask padding to like 64 or 128.
>>8126413Draw some colored blobs vaguely resembling the x-ray shot and the penis inside. Matching colors is much more important than linework here. Then inpaint that, starting at very low denoise like 0.25 and increasing slowly until it works.Alternatively use an inpainting checkpoint, or foocus patch. This lets you use denoise 1.0 without getting visible seams.
>>8126419>I don't really understand comfy nodeslopthe only thing you need to understand is comfy won
She ain't 'fraid of no ghost.
>>8124298Sorry. Did not see you there. Thanks for that. Very cute IA indeed.
>>8126419>>8126420i got roughly lucky with adjusting the mask area and a 1.0 denoise, then got a good enough 0.5 denoise from there. will revise workflow for next time
>>8126428What is this game even about?
and detailed the face for the original gen
So does the ruaunet msg-msa-gpo-ces mega ultra res stuff only work with ancestral samplers? Others seem to produce weird trypophobia nightmare inducing artifacts.
>>8126432>>8126434You can tell something is too western for /h/ if you can actually see the nostrils.
https://files.catbox.moe/zssher.jpgdon't
>>8126314probably diabolik lovers
>>8126451There's literally nostrils in anime you retarded faggot
I get an error when I use my gpu, no matter if I am set to novram or low-vram, is it simply impossible to use a gtx 750ti with comfyui? I'm still able to use cpu.>>8126400
>>8126461indeed>>8126459
AstraliteHeart here. What exactly is wrong with the score tags? I always hear people saying it's retarded but they never articulate why.
>>8126465nice b8 m8
>>8126465Mr. sir AstraliteHeart-sama, all that matters is that all artist tags are present and dataset isn't pruned or censored. It's that simple, everything else is so secondary it doesn't matter. Good luck!
if you're going to bait please do it with something that the person in question didn't literally write an article about
>>8126465score_9 works okadding score_8_up or any others on top of score_9 has very heavy handed effect on shading and turns everything to slopbasically everything else about score is opaque redundant bloatwe've learned mitigations like 3d and/or realistic in negs, and knowing when to use just 9, or 987 or whatever, or none
>>8126465I'm not offended by your bait, I'm offended by you being such an obvious, oblivious, stupid newfag.
>>8126468>>8126469>>8126470>>8126472>>8126474The point of my bait was to discuss what should actually be done in a model. The tags themselves are just glorified quality tags but the problem lies in the fact that the people scoring the images have an aesthetic taste that you disagree with. The usual argument is that furries have shit taste and rate bad art highly (score_8) and good anime art that just happens to be loli (score_6 or score_5) lowly. The way I see it, the problem isn't that there's a score system but in the human error that goes with this biased grading. How did Jordach and Neggles etc avoid this and curate their datasets?
>>8126010You can download as addition on another folder, and I guess you can do symbolic links from reforge to forge content (like models, extensions etc) so you can use either when you want in case something goes wrong.
>>8126481Go ask them whenever their model release>more bait
>>8126481Jordach's grand idea is that quality tags are unnecessary.Cascade's "masterpiece" and "best quality" are an afterthought that aren't even supposed to be used, but in case you are wondering it's just top of gelbooru by score.
>>8126491if you can't prompt for good anatomy, you won't get good anatomysimple as
>>8126481don't think of score tags as actual quality tags. Only score_9 and the lower score tags actually act like that, 6-8(maybe also 5? idk can't remember) are more nebulous and stick closer to 'style type' tags. And they're really mediocre because the shit is completely undefined and unexplained. score_9 acts purely as the catchall masterpiece/best quality tag, though.And, ideally, you shouldn't want quality tags at all. But the reality is is that you're going to have a lot of trash in your dataset regardless to fill out concepts and having a function to call the subjectively better stuff up front for inference is better than not having one.
>>8126481you could make a public image rater site like https://tinybots.net/artbot/rate which could help in debiasing it
>>8126502Not going to defend the "grand idea", but you can prompt artists that are good at anatomy. If you don't like their style, you can do shit like [good_anatomy_artist_mix:your_favorite_style_artist_mix:0.45] or something. It shouldn't be too bad IF his training isn't going to shit the bed and the model learns everything properly.
>>8126510that's so badwhy don't we just gen on some 3dpd model and just use animagine refiner then?
>>8126504it's undefined and unexplained because it's entirely unintended for the lower score tags to have a particular style bias. that it indeed happens to have one seems to be a product of the mistakes astralite made when training the score tags, as he describes here:https://civitai.com/articles/4248
>>8126481neither jordach nor neggles are training quality tags for their models
>>8126517I don't think quality tags do shit on pony in terms of anatomy anyway and anatomy is still... good enough. It's literally the same with full score line and with 0 scores.>>8126527Not true though...>resonance_anime.csvmasterpiece,5,3473,best_quality,5,8473,high_quality,5,15000,
>>8126280it worked after all that, have a glora for>>8126534https://www.mediafire.com/folder/qacsea02659ct/tests(+ lowlight test from before)
>>8126533like another anon said, that's just using some of gelbooru's scores, and the number of images tagged with them is basically nothing considering this is a 6m dataset
Just finally got it working, had to use CPU only mode, and it finally generated, but it looks like this - is there anyway to fix this?https://files.catbox.moe/b3gcpk.png
>>8125921Prompt slutty bunny outfits, NOW.
>>8126545
>>8126539s-sovl
>>8126571Too western.
>>8126579Better?I've tried to adapt to /h/ style but I'm not very good at it yet.
Wait, i'm retarded.I've been just clicking "generate" on the inference tab in stability matrix.Was I meant to be generating it on the web ui?
>>8126595anon...
https://files.catbox.moe/f8mhom.pngwhich one
>>8126600Is it??The faces look a lot shittier though.https://files.catbox.moe/4h0lh3.pngHow do I fix this?
>>8126601idk but im using xl2v10 instead of those
How do you guys get consistent character generation?I'm just learning, but say you had a toolchain that gave you something you wanted in a specific scenario, how would you go about also generating variations?I figure I "only" need to get the character in proper poses, and then I can backfill with a scene, but how would I say, have a character in running in a space suit, lying down in a bikini, and reading in a chair? What about other angles?I'm honestly just having fun learning this stuff, so if there's good resources (or I missed them in OP) i'll be grateful of anon if they can point me in the right way.
>>8126601Anything but the 3x3-neg it looks awful
>>8126613https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups
>>8126588I'm messing around with hashed tags and I think I'm getting closer
>>8126533Honestly instead of bending the knee on adding the top gelbooru images as a quality tag I wish jordach or any baker in general understood why people use quality tags in the first place and curated a couple datasets based on that.Quality is just very subjective and while some people tag "masterpiece" and think highly detailed super soft shaded render, some people want a tag that just improves composition and anatomy without messing with the style.
Bros, was trying to tag some pics for a dataset, is there any specific tag that represents when the hair is slightly aside, regardless if the girl has hair between eyes or not? Picrel of what I meant
>>8126630No and if the tag existed it wouldnt even be used considering how badly hair is tagged overall
You can't just have two sets of ears.
>75 fileshaha, never change :^)
>>8126621Yeah, I think that may help, I'm just struggling with going from a given image of a person, to them in different poses, facing different directions, etc.Thanks for that though, hadn't thought of it!
>>8126537This is a lowlight glora? Does it work better than the other one?
>>8126675lowlight is a regular (?) lora or lyco gutted layer by layerzeon is a style glora
any good pony shitmixes that don't ruin the style loras?
Is Re-Forge supposed to be way slower than Forge? I just tried it and it was about to take 1 hour with something I can generate in a minute in Forge.
>>8126684You're doing something mega wrong. post some settings.
>>8126674I would recommend downloading the autocomplete tagging extension, it will help you see what tags are available and help you prompt stuff easier. If you use known booru tags you will have a much better time getting what you want. What that anon linked you earlier is a good start.
>>8126539gen in 1024x1024
anyone using NAI have any luck emulating kittew? i can never get close
>>8126687Commandline args: --xformers --always-gpu --disable-nan-check --cuda-malloc --cuda-stream --pin-shared-memoryIt could be R-ESRGAN since in Forge I just use ESRGAN x4, but I'm not sure. For now I ended up installing SMEA in Forge since that's more or less all I wanted, but I'd like to be up to date.
>>8126539>PostUpscale_LatentUpscaleLatest snake oil? That type of artifacting usually comes from latent upscale with low (<0.6) denoise.
>>8126545any progress on that new fore lora you mentioned?
>>8126700>--always-gpuDo you have the VRAM for that?
>>8126710I have 8 GB, I just copied the settings from the github. I'm gonna try the same settings I use for Forge then.
>>8126711Not nearly enough for that setting.
>>8126712>>8126710Yeah, removed the setting and the speed is now similar to Forge, thanks!
how do i find the current best hentai model? what version of pony is meta now?
>>8126719I use either 4th tail 4.5 or autismmix, depending on what I want.
>>8126719>current best hentai modelNAI
>>8126725is pony really not on NAI's level yet?
>>8126727Not really. But you get what you pay for.
>>8126727pony is the best PORN model, you can't doubt that, but anon asked for best HENTAI model
>>8126727you say that as if the model could magically get better as time passes
>>8126737i mean, somebody could magically make a HLL type lora for pony just how it saved the furry model.we've got some attempts (4th tail, for example), but its underbaked
what's the best model for doing those realistic looking renders of anime characters?
>>8126742 (me)oh, and i say magically because making something like that on fried the fuck out pony would be magic indeed
>>8126742pony is so fried that i doubt you could do much better than 4th tail desu
>>8126545https://files.catbox.moe/1fpa6c.jpg
what's on the genu (rhymes with menu) tonight lads
>>8126759Iztah
>>8126763S-slopsisters.. are genuine response?!
>>81259211. To get good object permanence, you need to apply feature maps to training. For example, "eris greyrat" implies "red long hair", "red eyes", "ahoge", etc. "megumin" sometimes implies "staff". You need to use high dropout for feature tags and do not drop the class.2. To improve rare class recognition, you need to apply frequency-based loss, meaning you should decrease the loss with how much the model have seen similar images, and increase it on rare ones.3. You have to use natural captions. The easiest way to get them is to feed the tags to the vision LLM such as CogVLM2 along with the image.4. Order is important, so you need to order every tag in the order of importance. The first should come the quality tags, subject, the style, characters, then natural language captions.5. To not fuck up CLIP, you should abandon commas and use "actual_tags" instead.6. To get good colors, you need to apply vpred + ztsnr schedule.7. You have to train an aesthetic and quality classifier that will suit your tastes and mark every image with it.8. You should use year tags and other meta information carefully, not ignoring it.9. Bake slowly.What are you waiting for?
>>8126770
>>8126775Hopefully NAI will finally give us the writeup they promised and explain SMEA while they're at it.
>>8126775>Order is important, so you need to order every tag in the order of importance.nice try to hinder local performance NAI employee
>>8126775>To get good object permanenceStopped reading right there
Im gonna mix sprite with strawberry fanta
>>8126759What did he meme by this?
>>8126786add cocacola (cocacolauser)
>>8126781nai has the same behaviour thoughever
>>8126481>>8126491>>8126504There's no way to have score/quality tags that have above an 80% accuracy. If you have a small number of people who do it, it is tainted by their personal biases. If you have a large number of people do it, it is tainted by the fact that it includes all the average and retard opinions. For example, go to any porn site that allows you to sort by popular/most watched and it is almost always shit. Or go to reddit and sort by most upvoted and you see the pattern of when a sub was biggest or when there was a particular large political thing people were incensed about that reaches the top.And they're black box models; they're always going to have some errors as they have no actual relationship to reality besides guessing. There are also a lot of errors people don't care much about, but it's called hand-eye coordination for a reason and it's one of the most developed parts of human cognition. We've got very acute perception of human hands and as such recognize when something is off very very easily.>>8126613(for nai)I write python scripts. I create little datasets. I try to find a collection of tokens that defines a character, which specifies clothing colors, hair color and length, eye color, breast size and 1 to 3 elements to give them personality (say bandaid on face, or flower in hair) Then I generate large list of prompts by combining their character traits with locations, fetishes, actions. I make sure I generate at least 4 images of the same combination so I can pick and weed out when it doesn't look like the character or bad hands and such. I frequent gelbooru and try to find popular tags that help in filling out these prompts.I structure the prompts as such:First two-three tokens to specify what I want (eg. nsfw, 1girl, portrait), then about 8 tokens to specify her character. Then 4-8 tokens specifying an action or a situation. And finally a few tokens to fill out the scene (eg. park in the background, at night).
>>8126775>6. To get good colors, you need to apply vpred + ztsnr schedule.What does this mean?
>>8126803It's meme tech used to bake easyfluff back in 1.5 days.
>>8126803>>8126806this, vpred is pretty useless. pony doesn't have it and it still has outstanding colors and dynamic range.
>>8126814moar?
>>8126814Wow
>>8126814Finally, some good fucking food.
>>8126814catbox?
damn... now there's something only possible through the power of local. saas truly can't compete
>>8126819It's a custom experimental lora.
>>8126814>>8126822Much better than pedophilia from previous thread. Can't wait for lora release.
>>8126822Well, seems like the experiment is very successful. Hope you release it or at least post more pics
>>8126824I'll release the lora once I figure out how to get consistently good and varied results.
>>8126826Looks really good to me as it is now but will be waiting for release
hello saars is there any list for innate pony chars?
>>8126826catbox still could be nice, wonder what model/prompts you're using but i understand if you don't want to share your secrets yet
>>8126563 >>8126571 >>8126582 >>8126748 >>8126753Based. Good gens.>>8126650I see you.>>8126709Sorry. I've been really lazy so I haven't gotten to it yet.
>>8126833based mass replying futacock spammet
>>8126775> You have to train an aesthetic and quality classifier that will suit *your tastes*That's what exactly Astralite did.> Bake slowly.And that what Astralite didn't.
Regional prompting attempts not going so hot
>>8126841i like how left part just turned into ai gore, very cool
>>8126831yes
Figured it out. My dumb ass just forgot to halve all the Lora weights, which broke the common prompt.
>>8126833very nice
>>8126841>This is your brain>And thiiis is your brain on drugs
>>8126836Based dicklet sissy.
holy why are you guys yapping that much. where are the AI slop images
>>8126855Iztah buff wore off.
>>8126857lol let me eat breakfast and you'll get it
>2 days and 2000+ images spent comparing different IN/OUT block combos>Notice just before going to bed that they were all extracted without the text encoder layersThese "oh, I'm retarded" moments happen way too often for my liking..
>>8125960box?
>>8126869That one uses unfinished vpred lora
>>8126833box?
>>8126860>let me eat breakfast and waste yet another full day slopping out some very basic boring sloppa that everyone will forget in 5 minutes because of how generic and bland it wasKinda sad life:(Have fun.......
>>8126886my sloppa is different
>>8126886This but posting text only in /h/ for 12 hours every day
>>8126889sounds very based
>want to make sexy brown skinned women>(brown skin:1.4), (dark skinned female)>AI either make white woman or black woman>put african in negative prompt>only generate white women>have to put big nose, big lips instead of african in the negative promptsWhy is AI so racist?
>>8126897Things that literally never and could never happen for 100000$ and my both nuts?
>>8126898I shit you not.
>>8126906oh. great result though, nice job anon
>>8126906that's the worst thing i've seen in my life but i'm glad you finally figured out highres
>>8126906based
>>8126910the eternal nogen shitposter strikes again
>>8126909>>8126910>>8126911But how do I fix the AI's hidden racism?
>>8126906That's the ugliest serenity I've ever seen
>>8126914kill yourself schizo shitposter
>>8126861generally you can cut tenc1tenc2 actually does stuff
>>8126912don't you dare use my line against me tard
>>8126913Train your own model.
>>8126915he is right tho
>>8126889Okay first of all! It's not 12, it's 16... I have access to 4chan all day!Second of all, thread is slow as fuck, there's not THAT much to respond to, I spend 20-30 minutes a day in total typing out text? (thanks to me not being a phonefag and having an actual kbm setup)Despite that by the end of some threads Ctrf+F (you) produces about 400 results (wtf) thanks to all your seething responses... Even though my posts are always fair and on point!!Talk about productive, huh?
Forget generic dresses and bikinis,post your most /fa/ gen
>>8126920Good b8
>>8126920a week a year typing out bait on 4changrim
>>8126921Most /fa/ gen would be yaoi
>13:12:32>13:13:32That's some good internet desuMust be Euro
>>8126939bro fix your shitwhole gen is fucking melting
>>8126942Yours must've melted away completely, fix your shit.
Praying hands are hard :(
>>8126939looks fine to me, not much i'd have changed in that above image. It is a soft style I am going for
>>8126921This is the only thing I have and it's from the based64 days.
>>8126950sovl
>>8126921>>8126950Not a bad idea, gen-bros, continue!!Someone's probably going to be angry you aren't doing this on /e/, but I approve regardless!
>>8126953of course a schizo shitposter would be happy that the gens aren't posted to an appropriate thread
>>8126953that wouldn't even be /e/ newfag-kun
>>8126954I'm so sorry:( I just like the images though??
>>8126956they are off-topic, retard, should i start posting pictures of cars i like here too? go to /e/ or /c/
>>8126921This is the only thing I have and it's from the naiv1 days.
>>8126953>>8126954>>8126956>>8126957I'm noticing
>>8126955/g/ is not a place to post if you have any self-respect, and /c/ doesn't have ai general, so for now it's just /e/.>>8126957WELL I like the images though:)
>>8126962I don't want to mention it because it's just weird seeing a dude talking to himselfBut IG that means it's self contained
all me
>>8126964>so for now it's just /e/./e/ has been in the trash since the guy who used to do the OP's stopped.it's straight fucking garbage now.
>>8126968It's pretty good and there are more images I save from there than from here, you just have shit taste!
>>8126968it was weird how he just had a meltie that some newfags didn't read the faqreally he must have been tired of carrying the place and just wanted to bail
>>8126969that you?>>8126909>>8126824>>8126825
>>8126921All of my gens have the on model clothes or are nude. It's over.>>8126970Can you really blame one for not wanting to tardwrangle kids all day? I can't.
>>8126969Actually nevermind looking at my folders I save more from here.... Must be the speed difference!
>>8126969enjoy all those melted features, garbled and bony as fuck adetailer hands from those ""highlights"", my dude.>>8126970honestly it's not really him leaving that's at fault for it going to shit so much as after he left some ultra retard came in with the mission to make the place as bad as humanly possible.
>>8126971No wtf, why would I want to look at girls with attached dicks??? Plus the style is mediocre at best...(You must wait 8 seconds before posting a reply) FUCK YOU
>>8126972Very based
>>8126974>>8126976Bro please drop the weird punctuation and symbols, we're all oldfags here, who are you trying to fool? Genuinely.
>>8126975Bro... you ever tried just lurking the thread instead of highlights????(You must wait 12 seconds before posting a reply) FUCK YOUx2
How do I prompt for some padding around the character in the image?
>>8126979he fooled me
>>8126977Been all day doing nuns
>>8126983I mean yeah you are a mental case autist but we are talking about real functioning humans.
>>8126979I think my punctuation is funny and energetic, don't be jelly, old fart!
>>8126985What the fuck? That's very rude.
>>8126987Whatever tickles your FOTW persona, shrug.
>>8126980I tried.The """encouragement""" of low effort garbage has gotten to a point that it's just not worth it.And the OP intentionally "highlighting" the worst literal 30% of the entire thread just makes it even more obnoxious.
Anyways I finished my tea so there's no way I can reply so much anymore as I have to do stuff.Post more /fa/, faggots!
>>8126921
>>8126997>stole the style from nayuta anon>posts .jpg to hide the styleWhat a fag...Cool 1girl though, nice clothes and booba.
>>8126999>nayuta anonyou?
>>8127001Why would I pay for nai, I'm a nogen:3
>>8127000Your pixels, sir?
After rebaking like 4 of my loras I'm convinced that the iztah lora was just really fucking good rng, that or debiased estimation is just that fucking good. I'll retry after debiased estimation is added into easy scripts in the supposed next update. Also hands in most of gens are just way fucking worse too, regardless of epoch
>>8126989Who's shrug? :D
Still very rough, but it's getting better
>>8127007Did you actually do 5 repeats like him though? I feel like that would actually help with trying to force a subtler style onto Pony.
https://files.catbox.moe/kv4468.png>>8127019I didn't go that far, I just did as many epochs as I needed to get the same amount of steps overall. I had a bunch of different settings for the suga hideo lora queued up overnight but only one finished because windows updates fucked it up, so I made do with one lora for now. I'll retry when the debiased estimation loss setting is added to easy scripts soon
Is it just me or do a lot of pony loras generalize extremely poorly?Style loras work great if it's a character that the artist has a lot of images of, but the second you use a different character it completely falls apart.What causes this? No other model has this issue, only pony and pony mixes.
>>8127022Repeats would probably be better for something like thisThat being said he overfried that so much in comparison to "good practices" yet it's such a flexible loraIt's weird
>>8127025Nah but most pony style loras are just badI've been running a chara-style-concept of my own no problem and with some of the better ones like iztah and night light
>>8127025Who knows. You can use an activation tag for the style, it's the same as prompting his character far as the style lora is concerned.
>>8127022>autismPony_4thIsn't this too far from base pony? Maybe that's why the hands are junk. Or you are training on autism_4th instead of base pony as well?
>>8127029>You can use an activation tag for the styleisn't "1girl" is enough for style activation?
>>8127030https://files.catbox.moe/iilpuk.pngI'm training on pony, also the hands are still melty on base autism too.
>>8127032Clearly not considerign the state of things
>>8127025generally speaking, the closer what you're trying to output is to the dataset used for the lora the better it's going to resemble the artist. It's just how things work.though it's also just a matter of a lot of style lora's being absolutely garbage with bad settings. They could also inadvertently have something tagged so heavily that it turns into a psuedo-activation trigger. I can't really say I've had too much issue with regularization stuff though unless the prompt is going really out of its way to fuck it up.
>>8127033That artist might just be hands-unfriendly tbqh.But you can also try prompting on base pony adding smooth anime style lora at 1 strength: https://civitai.com/models/264290?modelVersionId=298238That lora is what makes the difference in hands output between base pony and autism. Whatever else is shitmixed into autism doesn't really make a big difference on that front in my opinion.
>>8127025>but the second you use a different character it completely falls apart.if you train an abmayo lora - no shit it will be shit at anything else but cyan twintails girls
Is there an easy way to fix up hands? I tried a hands lora when inpainting but it was garbage
>>8127030Zooming into the hands in the dataset, yeah maybe. I guess the play is to loss mask all the hands or something for the next run lol
>>81270321girl already had a meaning before you trained, unlike asanagi. Bending it is harder than training a new one.
>>8127041I honestly never had problems with hands on Pony but easiest would be to draw them on roughly and then do denoise gacha
>>8127042Meant to reply to >>8127038
>>8127041Easy as in reliable or as in low effort? Copy the fingers from her other hand or from another image, mirror, rotate, rescale, etc then inpaint at low denoise to clean up.
>>8127041draw/copypaste them in photoshop then upscale, inpaint resulting good gen if you still don't like hands in it (more pixels to draw on = higher chance of success)
>1:1d script that works perfectly on charas and concepts>will not bake a style without activation tag for its life>meanwhile from the two best shared loras here one doesn't have any metadata and the other was baked with basically the civit defaults with like 5x the step count that's usually recommended>both amazingly flexibleponey is weird
>>8127044wait... is that... aua?
>>8127051>>meanwhile from the two best shared loras here one doesn't have any metadata and the other was baked with basically the civit defaults with like 5x the step count that's usually recommendedYou ever tried toml from this guy? https://mega.nz/folder/pCF0kRyY#aUMJ3ErcrKOripEOTy7Q3QHis 7010-Chirashi-Wagashi-Asura-Neisan is one of my favorite loras and his style loras in general are pretty good.
>>8127051i said it probably 100 times: pony/sdxl require 10k steps minimum. you are being lied to by poorfags who cut corners and cope about it because they don't want to spend 24+ hours baking on their 8gb GPU.
>>8127055not even them, it's the colab/civitai poorfags
>>8127053Another good example if they really are good8/8, cosine, buncha blocks, LION, 1000 steps and it supposedly bakes well>>8127055And I'd agree with them and just use the tags with the datasets that work with them and more moderate scriptsI ain't bout to spend 12h torturing my GPU just to get a no-tag artist lora lol
>>8126537I assume the artist is zzeeonn?also I'm guessing you resized it down(since the metadata is wiped)?What settings did you end up using/did you try and drop the dim and/or drop the alpha independently(don't do that, GLORA wants dim/alpha to be 1:1 to work properly)?Mostly just asking since I'm not super familiar with the artist and while it definitely does work, it seems like it has a little crunchiness in the gradients and I'm not sure if that's from the artist, the bake or the resize.
>>8127060>if they really are goodSome touhou examples from back when I wasn't a nogen so you can check for yourself whether you like it or not. (7010-Chirashi-Wagashi-Asura-Neisan):https://archiveofsins.com/data/h/image/1712/59/1712594721129857.jpghttps://archiveofsins.com/data/h/image/1712/59/1712592973587366.jpgI think remilia was also prompted on base pony and upscaled with autism, but I don't have base res with meta from that anymore unfortunately to confirm...
>>8127052si
>>8126630double-parted_bangs
>>8127072u*h
>>8127072wtf is this?
>>8126831I dunno but I can tell you of what I know
>>8127072Anon your loli... she's melting ahhhhhhh, stay strong loli-chan, don't liquify just yet, you are so young:(
why doesnt pony just train a new model version off nai images??
>>8127072don't fucking tell me jannies killed this
good job janny
uh oh loli melted
>>8127082Who knows. I've baked a bunch of loras and it always feels like the ones that I do of Artist mixes generated on NAI come out the best.
>>8127083They did.
>>8127083Probably deleted himself because of all the uoh responses, I don't think jannies are that fast unless you are racist.
>>8127083>ahhhh why are they enforcing their own rules on their own site IM GOING INSANE!!!
>>8127087Well shit! I stand corrected then.
>>8127090what rules? are you retarded? have you looked what's being posted here?
>>8127090based based basedwe're serious about the rules here
>>8127082because ponies don't have fingers retard
>>8127082Most NAI gens are catering pedophilia tropes, and AstraliteHeart is not insterested in creating CSAM-oriented model.
>>8127093Seethe p*do.
who would've known that a thing that got deleted the last 25 times immediately got deleted another time immediatelyi mean you'd have to have logical skills beyond a 4 year old to connect the two
>>8127097exact reason local will never be as good as nai
>>8127099>i mean you'd have to have logical skills beyond a 4 year old to connect the twopedos don't have that
it wasn't even loli though
i have a feeling melanin localized gens are coming...
>>8127100Local is already good, what do you mean?
>>8127097Yes bro exactly, it's an anime model... Pony is great at cartoon hags penetrated by weird-looking cartoon dicks. NAI is good at anime.
clockwork
what did he see.....
>>8127106feel free to provide any examplesurely you don't mean ponyslop posted here?
>>8127100Local is better than NAI. You can train anything you want on pony, loras are really strong, finetunes are even better. NovelAI has none of that.
>>8127110his own hands
>>8127111>>8126650
>>8127113>I'm so melted...
>>8127114HAHAHAHA
>>8127108I honestly just miss the backgrounds of SD1.5. NAI can at least generate some interesting looking backgrounds even if they don't make sense. Pony just cannot compete. I also find it personally hilarious how much I actually care about backgrounds.
>>8127118Your waifu must be pretty ugly, anone.
>>8127118>backgroundsI use ponymagine/trifusion for that:https://files.catbox.moe/5y0hk9.png
>>8127117What?>interesting composition and plot>pleasing style with a tasteful touch of chromatic aberration and realism>hot, mature main character>clean details, pretty much impossible to tell it's aiCan you say the same about any of the blurry NAI gens?
>blurry NAI gensWhat is even that meme? Nobody ever posts ANY NAI gens...
>>8127127it was a few seasons ago during the arc before the current no img false flag arc, maybe we'll get a rerun soon
Maybe I could have found a better time to post that image, but regardless, here you go, try to find at least a single loli herehttps://files.catbox.moe/37e3sg.pngThis is making me sad.
>>8127129u*h
>>8127129let's test
>>8127089My Izuna from last thread was deleted as quick if not quicker too, I even posted another image right on top of it for comparison. She had breasts and everything, the only difference was the style lora lol
>>8127126natural comedian right here
Ok, another one>A NAIposter walks into /hdg/>He says:>
>>8127143based
>>8127129I don't normally complain about sepia, but
>>8127132Hard-working jannies... But feels like they only remove actual loli nowadays which isn't exactly controversial.>>8127143Nice, you did it.
>>8126284Can jordach make this TTT thingy happen in cascade? Is local saved?
>>8127149I'm not the anon that was asking about it, just a different one that knew the easiest way to actually achieve it(process detailed here >>8125967) and decided to repeat it with something more high effort.
>>8127149>feels like they only remove actual loli nowadays which isn't exactly controversial.something certainly changed in this regard.
>>8126284i don't understand any of itis it like self-correcting ai?
>>8127148It's 9 epoch out of 60 anon (it will likely converge to 20-25 and will shit on itself afterwards lol)
i find it fascinating that as I got bored of games, AI emerged as a new reason to keep my PC hardware up-to-date
>>8127159Pretty sure I would have never bought a 3090 if it wasn't for AI stuff, but at least when I play games they do benefit from it. I will probably throw out the money for a 5090 as well unless Nvida completely cucks it or something.
>>8126284>we propose I assume they have something functional cause half these papers feel like it's just purely ideas guy shit >wouldn't it be cool if>how do you do itBut also this would require some better datasets I assume for recursive correction on itself and having that kind of scale for grading on what you'd want sounds nuts. Need more pahjeets tagging the boorus I guess.
>>8127097>>8127100sometimes I wonder if this sort of shitposting is spread around by astralite dicksuckers in order to cover his ass, considering that pony and it's derivatives are perfectly capable of creating photorealistic 3DPD of any ages and sizes, unlike NAI
>>8127168How do you know that, anon? Actually don't say. I think I need to fill out a form.
>>8127168>unlike NAI{{{{{{{{{{photo \(medium\)}}}}}}}}}} doesn't work?
>>8127170I... might have made a mistake, don't think you escape brackets on nai, local habits.
>>8127129>>8127157Epoch 12 without sepia artists https://files.catbox.moe/74zi28.png
>>8127174u*h
>>8127176stfu
>>8127178but that's a choco u*h...
>>8127170That depends. Would you call this "perfectly capable of creating photorealistic 3DPD"?
>>8127174Don't know about sepia, but she sure is missing some reds on her body, looks like a corpse....https://files.catbox.moe/rx8wvo.png
>>8127182kinda reminds me of combos n doodles
>>8127165In their graphs it doesn't trail that far behind transformers when trained on the same dataset. No clue what quality that dataset has tho
>>8127181I guess not, but it's 3dpd alright... I think someone who REALLY wants it could probably mix something up that would look close enough.With pony you would also need some realism finetunes though? It's not like base model is capable of realism any better than what you posted.
>>8127181so bad it's not even off-topic
>>8127189>I think someone who REALLY wants it could probably mix something up that would look close enough.I don't know man... I tried a bunch of things and this is the least uncanny I got, but it's starting to look more like a painting again.>With pony you would also need some realism finetunes though?Somebody try, I'm curious what base pony can produce.
IFEELFANTASTIC!
>>8127198You can't produce actual realism from NAI but honestly with some artist combos like s16xue or guweiz you can get pretty close to realism-like skin texture. Some of birdfag's loli pics posted here had way too realistic bodies.
>>8127198You're on the hentai board. You have to understand that realism in a lot of people's minds is just>depth of field>human looking skin textures
>>8127200>birdfagptsd
>>8127200>birdfaghope he'll return, at least he was posting /h/ content
>>8127184I guess you're right, sigh... The problem is, it never actually got to fix the color range and it always looked kinda green and colorless at the same time. Probably something is deeply fucked with kohya when it comes to vpred on sdxl. Or maybe it's just a huge skill issue on my part and the bake should take for way way longer, however pic is from previous 50 epoch run with higher LR doesn't agrees with it. It obviously have never seen a rose through vpred lenses but that shouldn't have been an issue if it was training correctly.
>>8127199Yay!
>>8127204most of his posts were /e/ thoughever
>>8127204he was probably the most based poster we had in a while
>>8127201Understandable, but given the context, I'd assumed "photorealistic" would mean actually looking like a photo, as far as AI gens can at least. Not something halfway between a photo and a painting that's stuck in uncanny valley with the ugliest human abominations you can dream of.
>>8127207cum = /h/>>8127208this
>>8127204wellhe literally was not
>>8127208>>8127204>>8127210he was so fucking based
>>8127206if only wife was this happy about me...
Birdfag's beach episodes...https://files.catbox.moe/1b1h7h.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/hzx2qh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/zrkwy8.png
>>8127216I missed this river body skin look
>>8127216dangerously based
>>8127216needs to look crispier like they just came out of the frier
>>8127216>started adding "child" to prompts
>>8127220>like they just came out of the frierSorry this is from my GOOD folder. I have the crispier ones saved in my random folder but the folder is huge with several thousand pics so I'm too lazy to find his gens there.
>>8127220Just be glad they look like they've been dead for two days, not seven like usual.
*glomp*
>>8127112So true localsister! I tranny heart pony, and I would never never never ever use a different model!
>>8127228It's over... She got DEI tits...
>>8127228>>8127206foreshortening my beloved
>>8127233They're legally required to cushion the impact when glomping.
>>8127228damn, hagami got hagamisalso>perfect irisaaaaaaaaa
>>8127236just train a lora
>>8127228Hagami -_-
>>8127230Is this a joke? One of the main opportunities of local is the variety of models.
If NAI3 is so good, why haven't they trained NAI4? Checkmate, atheists.
>>8127240This. So many different stuff to choose from. Autismmix, reweik, counterfeit, based64, animagine, arti... my head is spinning.
>>8127241The seething and coping would be so great it would melt down the interwebs. They're being responsible.
>nai v4 is out>can generate anything up to 4k in perfect quality>unlimited generations resolution is limited to 768x512
>>8127205Holy fucking shit It looks like found the reason kohya fucked up the colors, in train_network.py it doesn't initialize the DDPMScheduler using v-prediction target https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/25f961bc779bc79aef440813e3e8e92244ac5739/train_network.py#L743Restarting the training.
>>8127248>meanwhile the textbros that were waiting three years for an update and still haven't gotten it
>>8126534>>8126537Any chance of a proper writeup for how you did this?
>>8126744zonkey
>>8127189But the finetunes do exist and they're free. When was the last time base pony was relevant, other that as a training target for loras.This is Zonkey:https://litter.catbox.moe/dnrobv.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/95twwr.pngIt gets less "real" when using anime characters or 2D styles.
>>8127248I would gladly use it won't use VAE
>>8126999>blessed tripsLooks worse than that anon too and this one is even 1.5x hires fixed. It's always the low quality retards that need to hide their stuff.
(black nails, nail polish, fingernails, red nails, pink nails:0.0) for better hands on base pny (not really necessary on autism and other competent mixes)
>>8126906Her skin is dark grey not brown nor black. Like Raven, but a little darker.
>>8126940>AI made sure to hang the crosses upside downThat's enough 4chan for me today...
>>8127260I'm just not sure how original claim>sometimes I wonder if this sort of shitposting is spread around by astralite dicksuckers in order to cover his ass, considering that pony and it's derivatives are perfectly capable of creating photorealistic 3DPD of any ages and sizes, unlike NAImakes sense. Of course everything is possible with _derivatives_ (except anime ofc!), but how would xer majesty astra be responsible for them in any way?
>>8126990Oh it's this anon. Good work.
Well if we're on the topic of creators, did you know that Kurumuz tried to be an AIslop NTF salesman but failed?
>>8127260I found zonkey works better when I just anytest an autismmix gen with it. Native gens with it feel extremely limited with what they can do.https://files.catbox.moe/3idfcw.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/kv383e.jpg
>>8127007Can you elaborate on this?>>8127030>Maybe that's why the hands are junkI never understand this argument. People actually claim that you should make grids and pick the one with 5 fingers instead of 6 yet if you actually made a grid and included base autism you'd see it too does 6 fingers on the same seed. Total placebo.
>>8127272Not much. All Pony does here is allow it to do porn, which realistic models are all terrible at otherwise. In this case it can even ho silly stuff like cum inflation, tentacles, etc.
>>8127298https://civitai.com/models/611079/nai3likediffusion
Is RAUNET only on ComfmemeUI?
>>8127025Most pony loras are underbaked. It's the reason I started learning to bake myself so that I was in full control of every part of the process to see where stuff goes wrong, and deserving of the full blame if it doesn't work correctly.
How to correctly use emoticons in prompt?
>>8127304on pony? they don't work at all
>>8127282Yeah, or give it a style lora at 0.5 strength that's not too anime-looking in the face. Like nyantcha or magnetus.
>>8127305ok, so they were excluded from training.
>>8127055I'd say it requires 6k with 100 pictures.
>>8127282I uploaded the wrong base image.
>>8127299>uses nai to try to get something nai likeThat is utterly retarded. Nai just ripped off all of danbooru lol. They should just do that too. Genuinely dong understand whats the logic here:>"We will use Nai to make images of {1girl, artist tag}!!">Which are ai generated >which nai uses danbooru for>which also has the same image tags but actually real images from real artistsLegit, what is the logic here? If you use 1 girl + artist tag, why not use a fucking image of danbooru? Ai incest is literally the problem that if you train ai on ai it just gets worse, because ai makes mistakes, which snowball into a shit model
>>8127072So much crazy shit gets posted and this is the thing that's deleted.
>>8127086This, but unironically. Despite the hate for synthetic datasets I noticed that AI understands AI images better than real ones. I never used activation tags for all my NAI mixes but I've had to for the human ones I did. Very strange.
>>8127314Maybe it's a try to do what textfag model bakers have been doing for ages kek
>>8127315Pedophilia goes to /b/.
>>8127315Yes? It's loli, the other stuff isn't.
>>8127314Because AI art trains much faster, so you don't need as much compute. Well I don't think that was their reasoning, but it does make sense.
>>8127319You say it like this isn't a textfag cancer.
>>8127315>>8127320>>8127321Why are pedophiles so fucking stupid lol?
>>8127311surprisingly nice gen
>>8127323There's a point in textfaggotry to do it because it's much easierFor images though? idk
>>8127311Good gen. Thank you so much for posting.
>>8127086is there even lora of stuff generated on pony
>>8127318>Ai does a better job recreating garbled ai garbage than it does actual good imageswow, shocker
>>8127329To make autismmix look more like base pony? kek
>>8126335>fuckign richfag with two laptops>be poor>look around>2 desktops>2 monitors>3 laptops>tablet
>>8127311very very nice. really like the chromatic aberration and the black man, it's like your signature features.
>>8127318Same, but it also breaks fingers like no other, and breaks eyes even with adetailer. I think it just makes all the usual AI mistakes worse.
>>8127209>Not something halfway between a photo and a painting that's stuck in uncanny valley with the ugliest human abominations you can dream of.Pic related.https://files.catbox.moe/penae9.png
>>8127333black?
>>8127334>black manIt's a Japanese man from Okinawa.
I gave her less cushioning this time, so please be careful.https://files.catbox.moe/gnzsr4.png
>>8127342>he spent anals on wife(kneel:999)
>>8127337That's not so bad, just a regular old 3D render-styled image.
>>8127345Would you spend it on something else?
Am i the only one that thinks the entire local space of genAi is beyond help retarded? I see all of them wasting so much money, but the one that stuns me the most: literally handicapping yourself. These retards have like 1 a100 and think >oh well, gotta prune all of dataset of good art>gotta remove all artist tags>gotta exclude x because x badThese retards have tremendously limited resources and gimp themselves like that while the company with like 1k h100 does not. Literally WHAT is the explanation for that? Nai makes money and DOESNT do that, doesnt give a fuck but also has literally 1k times the compute.some random retards in their mothers basement are like "nope gotta moralfag".What is the reason for that? Especially: Pony. These retards want to REMOVE artist tags. wtf? Also apparently wanting to monetize their models by hiding them behind an api? im not sure about that one, but i saw some discord chat being posted here that talked about that. I would drop nai if i would actually have a full model that could replace it, and every time something promising shows up it is either: collapsing, "ups we run out of funds thanks for the money tho", Ums guys think of the morality, gotta protect artists, lets remove art tags or just "lol pay me for every image". The banger is nai also doesnt do anything. Where's nai4?
>>8127345>subbed for NAI for 2 months earlier this year>every anlas i ever spent was accidental when i was taking someone else's prompt and forgot to change resolution / settings back>never actually used them for anything elseheh..
>>8127348my take is simpleuntil you do better, who is even you?
>>8127347of course not but i dont have anals, nor i have NAI sub
>>8127348you are one month late to the party
>>8127348yeah we all know, which is why people are posting desperate clips from cascade and wdv in hopes for an actual good model. local has historically always been full of junk. the only time they were ever 'ahead' was relying on the NAI leak.
>>8127348Pony is the most bizarre example of this shit though. Who else purposefully purged artist tags? NAI 1 is all I remember, but that was done because there was a lot of uncertainty in the space.WDV is not including danbooru gold images, that's all, and it's done due to legal reasons, not moralfaggotry.>Where's nai4?they haven't even released the text model yet lmao. Won't be earlier than November that's for sure
>>8127350You probably have some left over that you can spend then.
>>8127359Not just artists, characters. That one is the strangest to me, like who's gonna complain that you gen a vtuber? Not even her.
>>8127360yeah you're right
>>8127359>and it's done due to legal reasonsthey say the main concern is quality though
>>8127361Ponyfag is just a mentally ill faggot
>>8127311uoh!
its not hard to understand. those who are good get bought out, those who are obnoxious grandstanding trash get left behind. has always been the case for open source, far before ai even became a thing.
>>8127363That's pr bullshit I presume. The main issue is that one of the devs is from Australia.
Thoughts on segment anything 2?
>>8127367Basically thisIf 1/10000 of all the localfrog ideas guys actually ever did something we'd live in an utopiaBut it's always just this is bad this is shit this is meh this is better this is how i would've done it (i never opened a .py file)
>>8127367retard take. there are more than enough OS projects that eclipse any proprietary competitor.
>>8127182Very nice. I should do more outfits for wife.
>>8127348big corpos aint pruning shit because they can either monetize it through SAAS or lobotomize your prompts so you wouldn't be able to prompt pussy>"nope gotta moralfag".if they've got compute from big corpos - they'd be forced to prune shit (like astra cucked his model artist-wise because he was using NAI compute, or like wdv team pruned gold because of 3rd party compute aswel) because its their compute, you either bootlick or gtfo
>>8127372>nanakobased
>>8127373why not compute safe stuff with corporate compute and risky stuff on your own?
>>8127376>your ownBased69 coming on anon's 1060ti
>>8127376good luck baking SDXL on single 4090
>>8127314>If you use 1 girl + artist tag, why not use a fucking image of danbooru? Ai incest is literally the problem that if you train ai on ai it just gets worse, because ai makes mistakes, which snowball into a shit modelWhat you're saying just doesn't happen though.
>>8127348I fw your shit heavy
>>8127373>astra cucked his model artist-wise because he was using NAI computefalse, it's because astra is a retard>wdv team pruned gold because of 3rd party compute it's because one of the devs lives in australia and laws against loli stuff are much more strict there
>>8127330Imagine being this retarded
>>8127367people say that but that makes in that context almost no sense. You approach something that approaches nai level of models? Now who buys you? Microsoft? Mid journey? the problem is that the models are not all THAT good. and nai has nai3. Midjourney has mjv6. What is one dude gonna contribute to the newest models? he barely got to the point of being able to do shit himself.I also have never of any project being abandoned in the localimagegen space because some dude got bought out. >>8127373>like astra cucked his model artist-wise because he was using NAI computehuh? nai? nai who allows loli guro amputee rape porn?
>>8127336>but it also breaks fingers like no otherIt's not any more broken than any human art. Obviously if you have broken hands in your dataset it will worsen your output but if your hands are good what's the difference? The same is true with eyes but the trick to eyes with both normal art and synthetic art is close, portrait or even eye focus. 4-5 pics of that in a dataset of 100 and you're golden. Synthetic art just means you can perfectly curate the dataset and create exactly what you need while with real art you have to hope they've drawn what you need.
>accidentally showed a colleague my ai generated folderit's over
>unironic synthetic data enthusiastthis is worse than groidie and putridbogbirds combined
>>8127389you must be pretty new if you've never heard about anlatan and stability hiring most of the wd team
>>8127389>nai who allows loli guro amputee rape porn?Hi 2koma dude!:3
>>8127389>NAI allows baking model on their compoote without any restrictions>Astra doesn't prune shit, bakes proper pony and releases it to the public>Noone but phonetards buys NAI anymore because there's a competitive alternative available on local>>>/g/sdg
>>8127398what the hell are you talking about
>>8127398>competitive alternative available on localwhat the fuck, where?
>>8127346That's because you haven't seen the FF characters. The lora is okay for 1girls and pony characters but not okay for FF characters.https://files.catbox.moe/m5nmw5.pngYou'd think the stuff in the dataset would be what it would replicate correctly.https://files.catbox.moe/lgdnct.png
>>8127385thanks>>8127398Its impossible to train a model thats half as good as the model you siphon the images from. maybe concepts, if the model is really good (midjourney).
>>8127398>Noone but phonetards buys NAI anymore because there's a competitive alternative available on locallol.
>>8127402autismmix
>>8127398>the tremendous reading comprehension problems in responses to this posti thought we were a text general
>>8127373>because he was using NAI computeThis doesn't make any sense and you know it. NAI didn't do this so why would compute provided by them have that as a requirement?
>>8127398pruned artist tags isn't the only pony issue. limited anime dataset and lack of vpred (aka sepia and shit contrast) would still be an issue.
>>8127410Because people are delusional and want to find reasons to hate NAI so they make up a lie and say "NAI forced Astra to prune tags because they didn't want a local competitor!"Lucky that NAI even gave Astra the compute considering how fucking shitty the local community is to NAI.
>>8127409i understand what that post says but it's so fucking retarded that it makes my head hurtastra didn't even use nai compute in the first place, and even if he did the rest of the post would still be extremely stupid
>>8127398>>8127409You posted a hypothetical, bro. Only nogens are smart enough to comprehend it, it is what it is!
>>8127412>considering how fucking shitty the local community is to NAI.I'm thinking of starting a petition to credit card companies to ban nai. If local can't have it, nobody should have it.
>good gen gets posted>zero or one spiteful (You) crying about gen being blurry>retard posts retarded take>gets all the (You)slol
>>8127420your image is cool
>>8127398The only time astra used NAI compute was back in the 1.5 days when they lent him to make an actual pony model, because they used pony community data in their TTS.
>>8127420Where's the good image bro?
>>8127420take my upboat kind saar
>>8127394Learn 2 bake faggot. You won't do shit but shitpost though since you only need room temp IQ for that.
Somehow, the gens I did on civitai with identical parameters, look worse if I do them locally (on average). Why?
I literally cannot get hard of beautiful woman x beautiful men anymore. The girl has to be perfect and beautiful and the dude has to be disgusting. What level of pornbrainrot is this?
>>8127419having only sepiaslop and nothing else produced by aishitters would be an immense gift to artfagsbut that's still inevitable, good things don't last
>>8127426i already bake which is how i know that using synthetic datasets is a terrible decision
>>8127426who is yougo away
>>8127428Natural progression of mind break and humiliation. I don't think it's too irregular to want to watch women get defiled.
>>8111158 glad i made this post a few days ago and now we have it in reforgeno one cared about hidiffusion when it was originally released lol
what the fuck these niggas yappin about
>>8127428I was exposed to too much hentai manga and javs beforehand and mostly gen girls with hairy ugly bastards as well. Dark skin always goes to negs though.
>>8127428Emasculated jap or whitie level
who cares about nai and pony when cascade already beats both? jordach said so himself
>>8127440where can i download cascade?
>>8127442Bro don't...
>>8127428He's not that much disgusting tho.
>>8127445>She doesn't have a single hair down there!?She doesn't have a pussy either, what the hell
>>8127428ContrastBeauty & The Beast is a thing for a reason.
>>8127428i skipped this step and went straight to dogs
>>8127445lol
>>8127448Anon... that's racist...
>>8127447Kinda cute for local sloppa.
>>8127440Bro, have you seen the latest epoch? It's cleaning up faster than a polish cleaning lady. And the complex poses it can do now! What was it? 1girl, sitting, legs up? like holy fuck that is amazing
>>8127455>legs upBro? Too far. This isn't even going to be possible with 3.6b and I'm dead serious. It's just not the level resonance can reach.
>>8127419There's a reason every other saas ai company goes out of their way to censor/does not train on CSEM material. Anlatan deliberately trained their model on t*****con/etc.. All it takes is one retard with the right connections documenting how Anlatan allows users to generate "t*ddler ...." with no safeguards in place. It doesn't matter if it's not actually real, card companies don't fuck with that at all.
>>8127432>>8127433>no gen>your skill issuePick one.
>>8127460whoshooosh away
>>8127459I remember people saying that since the first chum realized you can prompt u know what in textgenSo like two days after launch of the company
>>8127459What would be a good petition website?
>>8127446She grows one in the end.https://files.catbox.moe/na1ya7.jpg
>>8127419>If local can't have it, nobody should have it.But I thought local already has the perfect model?
>>8127462They're not wrong, it's just that no one in the media has bothered to write anything about it (that's where it always starts) and anlatan/nai actually isn't well known at all.
>>8127466It has the perfect model for everything but tingfenglung zianding fenghe
>>8127468No it doesn't. Local Kuro looks disgusting.
>>8127466it does if you are into my little pony and western cartoons
>>8127463If I were autistic enough, I'd reach out to a group like 404media with a "manifesto" on it all (independent media, they have done several pieces on AI csem and are arguably the reason civitai got dropped by one of their biggest investors). Than you wait for them to drop an article and forward that to relevant legal/safety parties at companies Anlatan associates with.
>>8127463>>8127471https://www.404media.co/civitai-and-octoml-introduce-radical-new-measures-to-stop-abuse-after-404-media-investigation/Forgot to link this."Civitai, a text-to-image AI model sharing platform, is seeking a new cloud computing provider and instructing its millions of users to complain to its current provider, OctoML, after OctoML decided to end its business relationship with Civitai entirely, after a 404 Media investigation."
>>8127465what the fuck is this
>>8127473Interesting! Do you think they could look into Jordach and Meanoldtree's endeavours if I compile the screenshots from their discord? Might not be too late.Honestly, could do something with wdv too if I spin this right.
>>8127465he is literally me?
>>8127481Maybe kek
>>8127481Would be based. Let's do it for the artists and nuke all ai slop
>>8127481based chaos causer let it all burn
>>8127251It's only 6 epoch but it already looks much better color-wise??https://files.catbox.moe/p54i4f.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/tveldt.png
>>8127471 >>8127473Thanks for the idea, I can spend an hour writing a detailed e-mail to them on the off-chance this actually works.
>>8127489man if you'll be able to fix pony through it this will be insane
>>8127485>>8127486>>8127487Can't do much if the retard is training on his shitty 4090 inside his basement, but if there's a chance to cut off them from the cloud compute it could be fun.>>8127491Wish you luck bro. Let's fuck this shit up together
>>8127492gradient and shine are a far worse issue than color tho
>>8127491BasedBut copy it and send all over
>>8127419>>8127491>>8127493so you actually agree that nai is THAT superior? So good that you are angry that others got access to it lol.
>>8127473>investigationloli've read some of their articles, these dumb, tech illiterate troglodytes couldn't investigate their own navel lint without getting lost, can't say i'm surprised their verbal diarrhea is taken as something credible in the current year>>8127491>>8127493there's a certain kind of people who can't make anything themselves yet they relish in destroying things others have built, what do people call them again?
>>8127491I don't see why it wouldn't work, just clearly lay out how easy it is to generate the material, how they deliberately chose to include it in their training, and how there are no safeguards.
>>8127498Nah I don't care, just wanna watch the seethe. Bro takes care of NAI and I take care of the furrytard and wdv. Seeing you fags stuck on pony forever would be priceless.
>>8127498>so you actually agreeYes.>there's a certain kind of people who can't make anything themselves yet they relish in destroying things others have built, what do people call them again?I'm so sorry, should have gone the open source way.Cry more!
No more work trips to Japan...
>>8127501And yet, they managed to fuck over civitai because they were right about the site being flooded with deepfakes, being used to generate csem, etc...It doesn't matter how tech illiterate they are because the important part is the CSEM.
>>8127498it has always been a case of sour grapes seething. freetards have been absolutely melting since 2022, then after nai leaked they sat around slopmixing 1.5 for over a year until nai3 dropped and they collectively went "oh shit... we're fucked!" and scrambled to slop up some sepia to cope
>>8127473lol did any of you even read what is written there? Octoml is a could provider, nai owns their shit kek.
>>8127511Are you retarded?
>>8127511Do they own their hosting, their ddos protection, the companies that handle their money transactions?
>>8127512no, you are, the cloud computing provider dropped them. Nai has their own compute lmao. You can still log into civtai with a creditcard to become a premium member to push your cp model to the top>B-bcope lol
>>8127514They kept their most valued model and all training data on an unsecure github account so maybe they do geg
>>8127511NAI could easily get cut off from their payment processors and WD along with furryfaggots could easily get booted from their clout compute. Good luck paying for nai with crypto (lol) and good luck cooking 10 million pic model on a 4090.
astralite is the only one who physically owns their hardware and therefore is the only one who will deliver the goods. astralite's reign as king of local is insurmountable and guided by the divine. it is fated that shitbakers kneel and grovel before the sepia crown
>>8127503nice larp my guy
Thank you anyone lol, i got now new meme material to shit on local kek for ages.But for real, did no one check even for one second?
>>8127516This is just not true though?https://blog.novelai.net/coreweave-announces-novelai-as-among-the-first-to-have-nvidia-hgx-h100-gpus-online-55aca42c9f63"NovelAI, a generative AI company that creates literature and imagery with users’ personal perspective and voice, will be one of the first customers to use CoreWeave’s NVIDIA HGX H100 instances; the company and its developers now have the ability to scale on a supercomputer level"They rely on Coreweave.
>>8127522what
Absolutely surreal how much spite this general has accumulated over the time.
>>8127510based farseer anon
>>8127526it was told in the stars since the day nai leaked. local cannot rely on leaks forever. they dug their own grave
>>8127522>https://civitai.com/models/260267/animagine-xl-v31?modelVersionId=403131not only that bit i just checked on the top models LMAOOOO, write a mail about that too local piggy hahahha. This was literally in the gallery of the top model for anime
>>8127526it's literally a single schizo who probably won't do shit anyways, and even if he did that has nothing to do with "this general"
Astralite is watching, waiting to strike.
>meanwhile the furfags are still hapilly on their own trained model that does everything they want with 1:2 image to post ratio
It must be that "nai blur" schizo, lmao. I normally don't butt in since I don't use NAI but this level of seething is just hilarious. Actually, it's very similar to inkcels rage when SD came out.
>>8127532Now that you made me think about it, what would happen to this general once we get a near-perfect local model? I'd honestly just leave.
What this all doesn't make any sense you can buy gen points to gen images from all models on the site with Google, credit cards, Apple pay etc >>8127522 but you can literally make anime cp with the top ranked anime model, you literally see this if you log into the site an activate r18 >>8127529But I thought civtai specifically got dropped? Kek, was this all a lie? You can literally pay with credit cards, Google pay, Apple pay and direct bank transfer and can gen onsite Loli sex 5 min later?
>>8127537same as before>omgitsogood for 3 days>then ewww give us morreee!!!!>then groidiemeltie starts again and nobody post imageshonestly it's half the culture and not the model, when you have a general built on hype than then sits for two years doing nothing you get this, it was the same in /aids/
>>8127535>it's very similar to inkcels rage when SD came out.Freetard rage over NAI always was, in essence, similar to inkcel rage. They don't approve of the tool and start malding and engaging in their shitty leftie activism. Simply not liking SaaS is fine, but wiping the general for months due to your seethe is fucking nuts.
>>8127535>it's very similar to inkcels rage when SD came outi've had this personal schizo theory for a while, this general must have attracted some mentally ill artists who would rather shitpost here and disrupt the thread rather than drawi just noticed far too many weird shitposts where it's obvious that whoever posted it is unfamiliar with this technology yet pretends to be a regular, although i'm sure there are other explanations to that kind of behavior
Harris will save this general.
What retards told me to use pony diffusion?What are these results?https://files.catbox.moe/xuc457.png
>>8127539It's just because their CSAM filters work like shit. BUT they do have the filters, and they routinely remove loli if you report it.Compared to them NAI allows unrestricted access to>loli guro amputee rape pornWith a few simple keywords and a click of a button, with no filters in place.I'm pretty sure they are the easiest company to break right now, so I'd be a fool not to try.
>>8127522So civit got hit with le ebin hitpiece and still has payment providers?
>>8127548Same prompt (minus the whole score_ source_ part) in something like nai abyssorange_hard:https://files.catbox.moe/fhnr89.png
>>8127546it's more that the only person who would've stayed in a dead general for the 1.5yrs are mental casesand oldfag mental cases are good at pretendingbut i haven't seen what you claim to have seen so i think it's in your head
>>8127549>so I'd be a fool not to try.just for the sake of shitpost?
the outrage over ai died. payment processors dont care. website hosts dont care. the only people who still care are, funnily enough, the very people making the ai which is why all your models are self-censored slop that get worse each generation
>>8127559>your modelsAnon... I... it was true then... >>8127546
>>8127548You may have better luck prompting specifically using booru tags
>>8127548Score tags each have /aco/ bias, and it adds up when you use multiple of them. Drop all but one of them, or prompt an innate anime artist like say kagami hirotaka.
>>8127557>just for the sake of shitpost?based and oldchanpilled
>>8127561they mostly are booru tags.
>>8127563Yeah that's exactly the point of my post. At the very least a publication might force NAI to implement similar restrictions which wouldn't be a half-bad outcome.
Hello, meanoldtree sir, tell jordach that he's a fgt
>>8127563NAI doesn't have a gallery to begin with.
>>8127546>Artists using AIWouldn't surprise me. Some artists are already toying with the idea of prompting for references
I give myself 1.5 days before I stop genning again and leave for 4 months again only to see the same threadAny bets?
>>8127562Now I just used 9 instead of all of them and the result isn't any better.In fact it's worse. (I'm picking one example but genning multiples).
>>8127565>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, score_4_up, source_anime, nsfw, 1girl, portrait, (hot pink hair), (sky blue eyes), (blue blouse:1.2), sweet, innocent, (green long hair ribbon), (large breasts), (medium hair), girly, (small mouth), eyelashes, pastel make-up, outside, day, in front of restaurant, fucked silly, cumNot really. I'm also not sure why you have certain things weighted and not. You probably want something more like this:>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, source_anime, nsfw, 1girl, portrait, pink hair, aqua eyes, blue blouse, hair ribbon, green ribbon, large breasts, medium hair, eyelashes, pastel makeup, outdoors, cafe, fucked silly, cum on face, cum in mouth,
>>81275714 months? My bet is all the same shit but deader.
>>8127571nah, in about 3-4 months nai will release something new, which will result in even greater seethe lol. As far as i know there are no new projects in the local sphere.
>>8127575nai isnt releasing anything any time soon because they're wasting time on their aethersphere chatbot garbage that still hasn't left beta.
>>8127566NAI pruning loli would cause even more seethe than them pruning artist tags
>>8127577Even worse, it's an a closed alpha - not even a beta.
>>8127364You're mean
>>8127577>nai lagging on textgenThings never change
>>8127577thisand they most likely are gonna struggle with v4 considering they want to cook the model themselves from scratchit's possible that v4 would be more similar to v2 - a minor upgrade instead of something massive
>>8127582I'm sorry astra, please don't prune YD. Don't care if you prune lolis tho
>>8127584what was even v2nobody talks about it
>>8127572Oh it's base pony. Never mind, haven't used that in months. Most people haven't, really.
>>8127573I took a prompt from my old day that was specific character in a specific situation. Some parts were explicitly vague because I had a slow GPU at the time, so I had to generate large lists at night, and having cum instead of cum on face & cum in mouth meant that I got more variety in composition when generating the same prompt multiple times. Anyways the result is still unappealing. I struggle to see why people so excitedly recommend pony.
>>8127577what i dont even understand. Why is nai even trying? Meta releases sota models. Wtf are they gonna do? they are the king of saas imagegen, they should focus on that.
>>8127566>>8127579Honestly, this might be the sort of thing to make some insider drop a mega link
>>8127588I haven't been here in about a year. What's the deal then? Using a lot of lora's or remixed models?
>>8127579nah. you don't even need to prompt loli with some artist tags.
>>8127591I'd like to be a romantic and say they know their roots but they don't care lmoaProbably saw the $$$ chatgpt and character ai made since it's right from that time when it got popular
>>8127590Stick with what works best for you anon
>>8127587it was a upgraded 1.5 bake with artist tagslikely same dataset as v3it was certainly better than v1 but not good enough to compete with local and v3 was released like few weeks later
>>8127591They can't really improve on imagegen. V3 is pretty much the pinnacle of a non-transformer model in that parameter range. Adding transformers or upping the parameter count would make inference too costly
>>8127593Get the 4chanx catbox extension and open up some of the images itt. That's probably the easiest way to learn.
>>8127599>too costlynot to say anything but they ran shitty 16 bit 20b text models for a good whilei don't think it's a problem with how cucked their free resolutions are
>>8127597>but not good enough to compete with localv2 mogs ponyshitte hard because it knows more anime characters
>>8127501leftists
>>8127599>They can't really improve on imagegendon't need to improve on coherence but expanding the dataset could be helpful
Seize the means of compute
>>8127602And they lost cash on the llm side of the business.
>>8127598why the fat belly
>>8127510This is why I wish oldfags would post more. Newfags will always fall prey to sophists unless you people actually do your fucking jobs.
>>8127610Considering they only had an llm business for the first two years??? government sponsored???
>>8127613ai is a bubbleliterally every ai corpo is losing money
>>8127599an sdxl finetune can't possibly be the pinnacle of anything, come on anon
>>8127614And as we all know Anlatan is well known for having venture capitalist sponsors lol
Regional prompting and forge suck ass. That is allt. butthurt
>>8127618obligatory "skill issue" post
>>8127611https://files.catbox.moe/xu7ggn.png
>>8127614midjourney isn't. biggest discord server in the world and the only ai company that is profitable (millions per year). why? because their models are actually good at what they do and they have less than 10 actual employees
>>8127618no surprise that you're too retarded even for something this simple
>>8127618draw blobs that resembles humans and inpaint characters in, you won't be devoted to pure t2i at this point but rather mimicking artist work
>>8127624>the only ai company that is profitableOther than NAI.
>>8127566>force NAI to implement similar restrictions>wouldn't be a half-bad outcomeWhat? Are people now so mindbroken and deranged that they WANT censorship?
Man, never knew NAI was run by a front to hide a bubble... Now it makes sense why they monitor everything.
>>8127629It's just the diaper loving anti NAI schizo.
>>8127629Making cunnyfags seethe will never not be funny. It's just that simple.
>>8127629>>8127419it's either shitposting or severe mindbreak>>8127633nah it's not him. probably a lolifag.
Where is b-chan? She needs to talk some sense into him
first it was Comfy fags vs a1111 fags, now its Ponyfag vs Nai-fag ?muh tribalism ? stfu ?
nmkdSiaxCX_200k is the best upscaler. Seethe nomosfags
nomosbros... our response?
>>8127639People just love drama, no matter where you are
>>8127640>>8127641no more upscale, just native resolutions now
>>8127642>the guy bringing up how much he hates women and browns in the "put seeds in ground" generalthe 2016 election was a disaster for the human race
>>8127638Don't see the problem? It really is a BEEEEG bubblehttps://www.goldmansachs.com/intelligence/pages/gs-research/gen-ai-too-much-spend-too-little-benefit/report.pdf
>>8127461>you have selected>no genAww better luck next time. Thank you for playing. :^)
>>8127644
>>8127645it was our bitcoin moment and most were to shmuchkish to seize it>make shitty text model>train on benchmarks to get good score>literally just spawn 5 billion dollars in your bank account
>>8127621I know, and it hurts>>8127625That's just mean, even from a filthy nogen>>8127626Might be the next thing to try
>>8127634cunnyfags? do it for the open source or the lulz at least. cunnyfags are doing just fine generating toddlers on pony, check out /b/ lol.
>>8127640This is a microaggression directed towards me. By law I am permitted to respond with lethal force.
>>8127638prophetic
>>8127526That's because most niceposters left. The few niceposters still here get shit on regardless of whether they post gens or post advice. All that's left is the shitposters and you can tell by the comment to pic ratio.
>>8127655can't even mention niceposters because they'll be outed as pedophiles due to posting /h/-approved girls
I miss Shuten anon
The only conclusion to be made is that we need to go back to 1.5The ratioes were so good back then
>>8127653wdvsisters, our response?
>>8127658I don't
>>8127658>i miss avatarfag
>>8127622k-kino
>>8127655the good posters left ages ago back when posting classical elves was still a thing. they formed sekret klubs for genning after the torrent of newfaggot turdworlders arrived begging for prompts. the second wave of posters left after they realized they could make money shilling on pixiv. the third wave left shortly after mining for pony hashed tags died out and spam baity garbage polluted the thread coincidentally along with the removal of IP count.
on track to 2k >oldfags lost>imagefags lost
the good posters left 2 months in because that's how long this general was good
>>8127653the signs were there for those with eyes to see
>>8127666just threw all my loras in the recycling binwhere is my wallet
>>8127666maybe I should switch to NAI...
>>8127675>>8127674but--but-- its made with pony in a1111 q_q
>>8127667it's not like the sekrit club discords are in a much better shape desu
>>8127590It's still western due to score_8 but you get the idea. Start first with danbooru prompts.
>>8127658He was based
>>8127655I agree, a lot of the helpful nice people aren't here rn. I experienced a lot of help regarding concept LORA stuff yesterday, and I was really grateful! Tried my best to help others, despite them being considered as rejects due to not using "meta" models. Is it so hard to accept that we all have different tastes, and we each have our own ways of working and making lewd pics?
>>8127677they arethey're slow but not as shit
>>8127655Yeah, i was here since day one, the real flood of posters began when nai leaked. Posters were abundant, and not just in their containmentthreads.we had endless posters, problem was it was that well liked because it was novel, it was something entirely new. About 3 months in and most people just left because they got bored of that toy. Then there was almost no more advancements. Id dare to say without the leak it would've never really been that big. The glossy "slop look"? That's just the og nai. Basically people dgaf about the models because they kinda are all bad in their own way. Then nai snatched away the rest and now we have just insane people here. Me personally? I wait for a big thing. Whatever that might be, wether it's a leak, or a model
What's the point of sekrit clubs if only genners are posting? I take more pleasure when someone is pumping to my pics
>>8127591Because their name is *novel* AI. They have to do textgen kek. The other anon is also right about the history that caused them to create their company in the first place. I wouldn't abandon textgen either for that reason.
>>8127682i mean being better than the current state of this place is hardly an achievement but it's no replacement for the days when this general was ok
>>8127684uhhh what
>>8127683I come here every now and then to get the news and shitpost and that's itIt was fun being on the frontier tho, nowadays it's all solved, not fun
>>8127684I really doubt that there any nogen gooners lurking here. b and trash maybe.
>>8127681>Is it so hard to accept that we all have different tastes, and we each have our own ways of working and making lewd pics?Anon...you are posting on 4chan the home of contrarianism for the sake of being contrarian.
>>8127658He was a pedophile, thank God he left. When other pedophiles are gonna be janned thread will be finally at peace.
>newfags endlessly complaining about a bit of classic 4chan tomfooleryIt is summer indeed
>>8127590>>8127679Hopefully nostril-anon isn't here.
>>8127694no gen btw
>>8127683If NAIV3 leaked right now, this general would be back to its current state within 4-5 months max.
>>8127697Anon it took two weeks for pony (aka the jump from stone to industrial age for the time) to be considered shitThis time I'd be two days
>>8127695IS THAT A NOSSSEEEERREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>8127697honestly I don't think so. unleaked v3 is literally the thing that broke hdg apart. it would get slower with time sure but not this bad.
>>8127694we've been in an eternal summer since over a decade ago
>>8127622But that's a completely different person.
>>8127702>decade ago>2014AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>8127701We'll agree to disagree than. I'm not a poorfag and used NAIV3 for a few months, it gets old just like pony is now.
>>8127596Sure, I just wanted to see if I was missing something with pony, but it doesn't seem to be the case.
>>8127699>it took 'only' 2 weeks for shit to be considered shitcrazy
>>8127703just to sayi have a kink for cumtank girls & cumflation. q_qhttps://files.catbox.moe/vk8cpe.jpeg
>>8127708if you try to pretend that v1 was better then you are either a newfag or the mentally ill oldfag that has been broken by two years of no updates
Considering we are now posting about old times, i use nai but would instantly switch to a better model, in fact, i would gladly do so, I have no loyality to any company or tech, if something is better i use it. that being said if it would be free it would be kinda a + but money isnt a problem for me, i just buy like 30k anlas whenever i run out. The problem is my 4090 cant gen shit if the models are shit. there has been ONE (1) (I) great release, and that was pony, and even that is kinda bad. I think ive kinda have come to terms with the fact that current ai transformer tech CANNOT be trained by normal dudes and some hobby a100. All textgen? openai, meta, anthropic, google. Companies. imagegen? Nai, midjourney openai. Companies. Its all just hopeless. The real banger is that i actually had REAL HOPE when pony released the model, because that was just the beginning right? Then he fucking stated he will prune artist tags and fucking goddamn make it a paid api.
>>8127705that's because there aren't as many toys to use along with naiif it leaked we would have a few months of nonstop lora baking, shitmix posting and controlnet coping for it
>>8127666im using both a1111 and pony is it that bad? While prompting on civitai it was fine, but locally a bit lackingI get some really ugly face profiles Is the answer still to hires fix everything?What some of y'all are cooking up in this thread is clean as fuck compared to my goyslop
>>8127705it does get old as anything, but it'd get old much slower if it was local. if we got a model that isn't ugly toon trash to train on things would be different.this place went into a sharp decline posting-quality wise after v3 was released. not gen quality, but the general feel of the place became much more hostile and shitpost-heavy.
>>8127714it was a low quality bait, dont mind it kek
>>8127712>make it a paid apithis is misinformation but the reason you shouldn't trust ponyv7 is that astralite is an incompetent retard and v6 is "usable" only because he got lucky
>>8127713Someone would bake a pony style for it, day one
It all needs to be burn anons, every site is infested with both NAI blacked slop and pony slop. The inkcels were right.
>>8127712There is no transformer anime model yet. And from a purely technical point of view OS is currently in the lead with auraflow
>>8127714shorter prompts, less loras, larger pics, and inpainting is usually good for quality
>>8127725I mean yeahI have AI shit filtered everywhere because 99% of normalfags intentionally put out the most disgusting pajeetfetish shit imaginable
>>8127712>4090that was me, i bought one shortly before pony came out expecting to train a whole bunch of loras for the new age. i made about 7 and got bored after hitting the stylistic limits of that sepia slop. i do like the gens i made with it and going from base to 3k in under 2 minutes was nice, but it just got really boring and stale with so many shitty aspects to that model.i have hope for the other models but don't expect anything revolutionary or crazy anymore. it's slowing down in general, not just hentai or local or saas. the next revolutionary thing will probably come at a point when (if) training hardware is dirt-cheap
>>8127725it was way way worse during the 1.5 slop eraeven pony might as well be a miracle compared to that
>>8127699No I remember it as 2 weeks before autism came out and people felt like they were finally allowed to criticize the shortcomings of pony. You see the same shit now where people can't even admit that autism is the cause of the sepia not pony. Pony is actually a very, very colorful model (one of its flaws). No one wants to shit where they eat so you get nothing but dishonesty from beginning to end.
Every AI general to date has died aprox. 1.5 months after the big thing it was made for stopped receiving updates/hdg/ is not an outlier in any way
>>8127731surely you're not claiming that people are reluctant to criticize pony and autism here
>>8127710cumflation is very based
>>8127726might be true but is there anything released? I am here at g too, people post like 50 "science blog posts" about a new amazing tech" has come out..... for 2 years.
>>8127714I don't think a1111 is the worst, but i find reforge and comfyui better fir memory optimizations. I'm currently using panchovix's reforge for the new samplers/tech like euler smea dy and RAUnet in place of kohya highres fix. Pony by defualt is a mess, but some of the issues like bad anatomy, hands, colors, etc. can be fixed with well made style loras and manually editing colors either in a paint program or using the vectorscope extension. Adetailer, another extension can automate the work for you of inpainting hands, faces, etc. You may also try any mixes based on pony. I recommend reweik v11 or autismmix (DPO or Confetti version)
>>8127731>No I remember it as 2 weeks before autism came out and people felt like they were finally allowed to criticize the shortcomings of ponyI remember thinking literally same thing. You weren't allowed to voice criticism of pony without being called a NAI shill. Almost immediately after autism got released everyone started admitting the heavy jpeg artifacting and hand issue, among many others.
>ai bubble begins to pop>used a100s start to flood the marketsoon bros
>>8127733pretty much thiseven the 5ch equivalent thread has been both slower and of declining quality recently
>>8127740can you give a link please? i really wanna see what nips gen
>>8127734I'm claiming exactly what I said: people don't criticize autism, they criticize pony. Even when autism is the problem they blame it on pony. It was only last thread or maybe earlier this thread that I saw one (1) anon finally say the truth. As if autismanon didn't post pics of his sepia back in January when he was still cooking and people seethed back then. If NAIv3 leaks you'll hear nothing but shitposting and dunking on autismanon and you can screencap this.>>8127738Yep that's exactly what happened.
>>8127740The only AI general on this site that hasn't gone to shit is the furfag oneBut they literally only post images of them fucking their dogs all day it's not that complicatedMany were wiped completelySome survive as purgatory after they got turned into shitty discords, like /sdg/, /hdg/, /aids/, etc.
>>8127728It really is total internet death.
>>8127736We had kolors, auraflow, huanwhateverdit in the last 2 months or so. You can download and run them locally. Auraflow in particular is definitely a Sota model, architecture and training wise, but it's ugly as shit.
>>8127736Shame that black sclera didn't work out, it looks amazing on local's Asanagi.
>>8127744I hate this meme because it was made by alphoomers who only got internet in 2021 and don't know all the total SEOcrap Google has been pushing for over a decade
>>8127742i've been calling autism a shitmix for months now and telling anons to test their style loras on base pony so i don't know what to tell you
>>8127690There's an unironic one for miqoanon but yes that's more of a /trash/ and /v/ thing.
>>8127739Generative AI bubble. There are many other AI use cases more valid and requiring GPU power.
>>8127748There is not a single lora anywhere that looks good on base pony. You'll ever need score or artists tags to make it passable and by that point you might as well use autismmix
>>8127741https://itest.5ch.net/fate/test/read.cgi/liveuranus/1722243309/
>>8127731>people can't even admit that autism is the cause of the sepia not ponyI thought I was crazy or it was just my setup so no one else noticed this but yeah autism really dull the gens and fuck with the colors a lot
>>8127717I disagree it got bad after pony released. This place was very helpful back in November but it wasn't once the huge influx of freetards returned when confetti came out.
>>8127751why exactly are you pretending that autism is anything more than a literal shitmix?it's base pony with a few lora's tossed into a trenchcoat. It has nothing else done to it. It's not a finetune.
>>8127737Wow, thank you so much for the detailed response. Appreciate it. Do you gen 1248x1824 from the getgo or is that after upscaling? On SDXL I'm supposed use at least 1024x1024, right?I usually eyeball my portrait and landscape resolutions that's why I'm asking, I think this might also trip off the model. Lastly, are there other performance hax such as xformers? I'm still getting quite a low it/s on my 4090 it feels.(I didn't mean to pin you down since you already helped, so ignore me if it's too much noobery on my end)
>>8127751that's not true at allif your style lora needs score tags or a shitmix to work then it's trained wrong
>>8126448gattobox for that ass?
>>8127757What's the problem with that?
Innate tag reminder:>hero neisan>nyamota>kagami hirotakaIn case rentryanon is still around, they should be added.
>>8127737Can you post your RAUnet settings? This is the third time I'm attempting to switch to reforge but I'm certain I will see another slowdown. Also catbox?
>>8127762Nogen. Show me the magic lora that looks good on base pony without any help from artist or score tags
>>8127765>kagami
>>8127562>Score tags each have /aco/ biasIs there any actual evidence for this? What model(s)? I've tested myself and I can't find any real differences
>>8127762If that's true then 95% of our loras are trained wrong, not to mention Civitai's. It doesn't make a huge difference, but having a more anime-like baseline helps the final look.
>>8127767every lora from glora anon and most style loras from xenoblade anon, for starters>>8127770>95% of our loras are trained wrongcorrect
I've started kinda recently prompting, is regional prompt not working on reForge?
>>8127772use forge couple
>>8127753thanks
>>8127771Which mega is glora anon?
>>8127756it didn't get as pathetically fucking bad as it is now but the flamewars and shitposting were really intense almost from the get-go. but there were plenty of good posters back then still so it felt balanced out I guess
>>8127767Autism's benefit is general anatomy and hands/feet. If that's what you're saying "looks good" then yes autism looks better than pony, but that anatomy comes with sepia. All well trained loras look the same on base pony as they do on autism, minus the anatomy and hands/feet. The whole point of confetti was to give us less wrangling and use little to no negs but if you want to wrangle then you can make base pony look good.
>>8127753Jap bros have way better gens than this place. At least they post actual anime style instead of larping /aco/. Examples.https://files.catbox.moe/4k5xp4.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/wakro6.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/gs77x0.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/lkrp51.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/3n4a6b.jpg
>>8127747>alphoomersIs that what we're calling them? Surely we can think of something better?
>>8127754Nice more please.
>>8127780honestly that's way below that thread's standards from a month or so agobut i agree that it's still less /aco/ than this place
>>8127758No problemo! Glad to help.I only gen from 1248x1824 from the get go if either using kohya highres fix or RAUnet highres fix (both not the same as normal highres). RAUnet requires you install Panchovix's reforge webui from github.My recommendation for a beginner like you, is to first gen from one of these resolutions first - you can switch width/height around for each for landscape/portrait:1024x1024896x1152832x1216768x1344640x1536Then follow up with a normal highres fix, scaling set to either 1,25 or 1,5.>> Lastly, are there other performance hax such as xformers? I'm still getting quite a low it/s on my 4090 it feels.Have you made sure that in your nvidia control panel settings that system memory fallback is turned off? If not, your gpu might unload some of the work to your slower normal RAM. Also if you are using reforge/forge you can also type in the commandline args in the webui-user.bat file in your webui folder: --cuda-malloc --cuda-stream --pin-shared-memory
>>8127786>way below that thread's standardsyou can't say shit like this while having this >>8127719 unattended
>>8127780>they have to censor porn to post thereholy kekjaps should just come here
>>8127789bro, your reading comprehension? i'm talking about the 5ch thread
>>8127789that's just mean :(
>>8127769Show your tests? The actual evidence was here before you even knew about pony, you can go look at the old threads. But here's a fresh XY with metadata.https://litter.catbox.moe/e6zb4a.pngThe effect is diluted on mixes that look anime by default, especially Ebara and the PVC figure one.
>>8127789i appreciate you making an effort to reply to every single gen i post
>>8127793sorry but you're posting /aco/, if i wanted to post western shit in jlullaby style i'd either fuck off to other boards or catboxed it
>>8127766Here you go! They are the same settings as another anon posted a few days ago. Remember to take your original resolution (say 1024x1024) and multiply by 1.5 (1536x1536). No need for highres after, unless you have a rtx 4090 or something. >> Also catbox?Sure, give me a moment!
>>8127787You're the best. Thousand thanks!Will save both your replies and get right to testing all after I unhoard and delete all my old UI's and whatnot (´◡`)
>>8127798take your meds
>>8127798wasn't my post but that was still mean. although you're not wrong.
>>8127780I could've genned these on AOM>(loli,toddler:1.6)Isn't that's enough degeneracy for one image
>>8127798>/aco/Anime eyes, therefore /h/. Sorry, pedochuddie.
>>8127795>Show your tests?No, but thanks
is "/aco/" this general's boogeyman that doesnt actually exist
>>8127766There! I'll admit i got this gen because i was lucky i think, and might have forgotten some ords in the pos/neg prompt existed.https://files.catbox.moe/r8z9hg.png
>>8127812based blind anon
>>8127812there's probably an overlap between people who cry about it and people who can't admit that gens with styles like shinozuuka george look like complete dogshit
>>8127816>gens with styles like shinozuuka george look like complete dogshitwat, who even gens with this style
>>8127771This is the only lora i could find that looks ok on base pony without score or artist tags.
>>8127812It's more of a catch all>i dont like your gen so it is /aco/, /trash/, /d/, etc. If you ever press them on the "why" they fold almost immediately.
>>8127784
>>8127812The board is very much real, and they accept just about everything other than /b/ stuff. This board is the one that's supposed to be anal about styles. But there are so many mixed styles now and everyone sees "the line" somewhere else. For example asurauser used to be a staple here for stabilizing messy styles, and it's a western artist.
>>8127812There is /aco/ in this thread and the past threads. Westerns don't see it because they don't like anime style the way asians do. Like I posted here >>8127780The point of the matter is, this is /h/. If you want to post /aco/ with anime influence, do it in /aco/. I come here to see anime only.
>>8127801Oop, forgot to mention, when doing highres fix, make sure to not set denoise too high! Anything below 0.6/0.5 should do well. If you set it higher, things start to become freaky with third limbs, extra fingers, etc!
>>8127825yes we already know you want the entire thread to be loli but it just isnt going to happen
>>8127824using asura as a part of the mix and posting in his style are different thingshis style looks awful
>>8127825>I come here to see anime only.and i came here to see broads getting railednail the janny application or stop posting
>>8127820asanagi
>>8127758Use this. It's very helpful for figuring out your resolution via your monitor's aspect ratio and then genning fullscreen pics after upscale.https://files.catbox.moe/gvjeti.pngHere is the link for anyone else that hasn't set this up.https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5490/~/system-memory-fallback-for-stable-diffusion>>8127787>system memory fallbackOh wow this is news to me. Hopefully that actually solves my reforge speed problem. Thanks for the catbox and settings too. I'll try a fresh install and see if it's working.
>>8127820Some fiend stole her nipples.
>>8127834rustle
>>8127834Would you really accept that as a finished style and not try to improve it further with tokens?
>>8127836Very good gen, please post more!
>>8127829While that would be a 100% improvement, I really don't care if you even post grannies, as long as it looks like anime.>>8127832I don't work for free.
>>8127848Well, you gotta accept that this >>8127836 is what anime looks like now.
>>8127836Wow nice detailed background honestly - how did you manage to get so many details there? Any loras you are using or did you manually inpaint it?
bluethebone>>8127844no, but it looks better than what he postedso there is room for improvement
>cries about a non-/aco/ post>causes actual /aco/ to get posted in the threadwhat was his endgame?
>>8127836Catbox?
>>8127807Shitposter-kun...
>>8127855Why? He even thanked me.
>>8127822dogbox?
>>8127858https://civitai.com/images/22050567
>>8127849>>8127846>>8127836>>8127834>>8127809>>8127754>>8127695>>8127679>>8127666>>8127681>>8127646>>8127590>>8127572>>8127548based
>>8127489Nay, epoch 6 just happened to be the most colorful one and then everything went to shit.
>>8127851thanks. couple of loras like the bad hand remover and art enhancer ones. i made it with pony diffusion, i know it sounds odd from the name but its capable of all kinds of crazy good stuff once you master how to prompt>>8127854https://files.catbox.moe/nfanj5.jpeg
>>8127865extremely based
If it has a nose, to /aco/ it goes
>>8127865Don't see any meta there :( But I do believe it was made with pony diffusion. It's an amazing model.
>>8127871YIKES>>>/b/
Trade offer desu wa
>>8127825Genuine question, would you consider this /aco/?>>8127871
>>8127870oh maybe it doesnt work here you go honestly just mess around you can get this quality with a bit of practice and from there youre free to explore the many styles pony has to offer
>>8127873>>8127871please save /hdg/
>>8127869I have data to disprove this, but seeing the state of the thread I will keep it to myself.
>>8127618love this busty may! :3
>>8127873What did skeletor do to my poor luvia?
>>8127873Nice style. Reminds me of my favorite nai mix.
>>8127877We're in a calm phase right now
>>8127874not him I would not consider this aco but honestly something about pony backgrounds and shading that always gives off aco feel to me. but I wouldn't be a dick about a gen like this.
(excessive cum, projectile cum, ejaculation,:1.6)
>>8127882>>>/d/
>>8127884its a model made up of 3/4 toonslop, cant expect much
>>8126295need to switch to dev_upstream branch (im assuming anon meant raunet
>>8127884What about this one
>>8127874No.>>8127896And no.
>>8127896>>>/e/
>>8127880???
>>8127900>>>/x/
>>8127896No.
>>8127900teeheeboner
>>8127902Why not? It still has the same pony shine and gradient as the other one
>>8127419>>8127471>>8127473What do you guys think? Do i send it? Anything you think I should add or rewrite?
>>8127909Please browse through the >>>/aco/sdg threads so you can understand what isn't /h/.
>>8127909you don't see a difference between this >>8127896 and this >>8127110 ?
>>8127909>the same pony shineBut it doesn't? And let's not get crazy here, plenty of anime artists have the "shine" as well.
>>8127110SPEEDORU?
>>8127910I already sent one and got a reply from Jason, they are interested kekI'd send it just to add more fuel to the fire
>quick, contact github support!
>literal school shooter behaviour
>>8127920Did you send one about NovelAI or were you the anon was planning to write them about cascade/wdv?
uh oh meltie time to leave for a few hours
>>8127913If you'd spent any time on /aco/ yourself you'd know that doesn't help. They accept everything, even straight up /h/.
>>8127926NAI, there's really nothing there for Cascade/wdV that warrants an actual article and there's no reason to fuck over local bros.
>thirdies losing their minds because they can't pay $25 a monthguh
>>8127913>>8127914I think it's kinda hard to classify something as /aco/ based on lighting/shading or color use. It's mostly proportions and body features that make something /aco/ to me.>>8127915It still has that overly detailed gradient. like it was i2i from a realistic photo. And the highlights are also still there, albeit muted
>>8127930But it's firstie hours
>>8127929Fuck, you were quicker than me, I was busy with some other shit. Well I'll send mine too (in case you are bullshitting kek).
>>8127926>the anon was planning to write them about cascade/wdv?That was me and I'll probably send that one later. I'm not sure if they'd be interested though but it's worth a try. I wanted to gather some screenshots from discords and here before sending anything.
Come to think of it, does the CSAM classification treat drawings and protorealistic stuff differently? I would guess the article was probably about realistic models on Civitai.
>>8127934post the jordach dossier on reddit
>>8127932It's 2-6 PM in south america and canada anon
How much of a pathetic cuck do you have to be to actively try to make (((payment processors))) and (((credit card companies))) fuck over the people that make your hobby possible?
>>8127890I was convined that there was a tentacle general on here. What a fool I was.
>>8127935depends where you live.if you're in the US, so long as there's no chance that anyone could manage to confuse the depiction as being "real" and it's not intentionally modeled off of a "real person" it's fine.if you're australia, canada, britbongland or a few other yuropoor countries you can get the locked away for shitty simpsons porn.
>>8127935This is one of those topics where it's a fucking nightmare and you'll have to go country by country. But at the end of the day companies don't want to touch it at all.
>>8127935> I would guess the article was probably about realistic models on Civitai.It was, which is why I wrote the second to last paragraph here >>8127910 in case that makes them more interested. It might not be THAT realistic, but that would be for them to decide.
>>8127935>does the CSAM classification treat drawings and protorealistic stuff differentlyof course it doesbut if that place is hungry for clickbait they might still post a hit piecedesu no matter the outcome this right now is probably the lowest point of this shithole
>>8127939it's not their hobby. like stated about, it's an /ic/ raid
>>8127941>no chance that anyone could manage to confuse the depiction as being "real"twitterians fail this task all the time, thinking that any loli drawing is a real children
>puh-lease write an article about a stable diffusion hentai discordholy fucking pathetic, and absolutely dogshit writing written by someone who has never had to send a professional email in his life. rambles on about the inner working of 4chan more than the actual 'issue'. laughable
>>8127947"real" in this context only applies in the court of law and basically reads as "as long as it's not photorealistic trying to be as 3dpd as humanly possible."
>>8127945It is my hobby, but it's not about the $25. It's about refusing to use saas for something that should never be done online in the first place.
>>8127945you don't believe it do you? this just seems like le epic troll in spirit of old /b/, just to make couple of fags here seethe
>>8127820I beg to differ, https://files.catbox.moe/1purpy.png
>>8127950Based, we need to save the children and the environment.
>>8127950well thendon't use it?
>>8127951you clearly never used old /b/ you newfag zoomer retard
>>8127954show hands
>>8127956Sorry sir, this is a battle between good and evil.
>>8127694endorsing shitposting and schizoposting doesn't mean you're an oldfag, it means you're a shit eating schizo
all ai should be not just local but fully open source datasets as well. they train on your data then charge you for it. nai is better than local easily, but that doesnt mean it shouldnt be local. $25/month for ai trained on someone else's material is wild.
>>8127950>it's not about the $25Immense levels of thirdie cope spotted
>>8127963based. capitalism was a mistake
I for one will temporarily migrate to treech
>>8127963It really is an /ic/ raid, huh?
>>8127950if you've ever used the naiv1 leak or if you've ever prompted with more than 75 tokens using CLIP then you've benefited from nai's researchwhy would you want to stop them from researching further stuff that will also end up helping local down the line?
>>8127958Barely decent, but still usable.
>>8127970Only possible because of a leak
>>8127940You're not the fool. The faggot mods that think tentacle monster fucking a japanese schoolgirl is not /h/ are the fools.
Get boned.
>>8127974based
>>8127948>laughableThat was the point of his elaborate shitpost anon. That's all /hdg/ is good for these days unfortunately.
>>8127968it's just new low of bait and shitposting this shithole stooped to. no need to search for some /ic/ boogeyman, it's all anons you were talking about every day. told you before, the amount of bad will this place accumulated is surreal.
>>8127963You're paying to rent their gpus not to use their model. Their model is not for sale.
>>8127970Sorry, just sent it...
>>8127977again, it has nothing to do with "this place", it's literally a single schizo
>>8127970nta but they said they were going to release a writeup about nai3 back in december. they have still yet to do anything that benefits local directly. i don't really care about nai, but ai has easily been held back by at least 2 years thanks to saas kikes and local self-sabotage. emad deserves to burn for what he did to sai and how far he set local back with his grift
>>8127981you're fucking coping. it's not a "single schizo". never was.
>>8127963nigga, its not your data lmao.
>/h/ finally realizing that freetards are a plaguewarned you for months
>>8127971Is that kawahagitei? Link lora pls
>>8127982they posted on some discord about it, it was just vpred and "terminal noise"they probably realized that writing a paper about it is silly
It's been a while since I've visited these threads, has there been any progress on generating images with two different characters with different loras interacting with each other?
>>8127990Yes
I ain't reading all of that, who is mad? Did NAI get shutdown because nothing of value lost
>>8127991would you care to elaborate?
so who's gonna be the one to visit NAI discord server and warn them about this?
>>8127994No
Since anti-nai trannies are seething, Midjourney just released mj 6.1lmaoooo
>>8127994What do you wanna gen
>>8127997Sorry bro, my uncle works at mastercard and ITS OVER
>>8128000mine works at visa and paypal i wrote 100 e-mails. Its over
>>8128001Just donated $100 to save the children in your name.
>>8127987https://civitai.com/models/609680/kawahagitei-or-artist-style-or-ponyxl-or-glora
Just took a giant dump at Astralite's front door.
someone should try to get astracuck arrested for cp
>>8128009Sorry sir, but the child horses do not count.
>>8127763https://files.catbox.moe/fkjxg1.png
Just emailed Hasbro about astracuck, don't worry NAIbros we will win this one.
Is there a way to have default settings in Img2Img inpaint that don't get overwritten when sending an image to inpaint? I'd rather all the settings remain default/ unchanged when sending the image over
>>8126537>>8127062some number of hours later, actually looking at the dataset, I now actually know exactly where the sort of crunchiness I was seeing in gradients was coming from.It's from the artist. They seemed to have a short phase where they were doing blushes as hard line swirls. And it's basically showing up in generation as banding.So, let me do a you a solid. Here's a zip of the images I'd actually use in a dataset that has the swirl blushhttps://files.catbox.moe/ir7mwx.7zI'd recommend either replacing them in the dataset you're using(which you'd have to do manually since these are png compared to original jpg - also make sure you remove "blush" tag if it's there) OR you can try and track all the images with the swirl blush and add "swirl blush" or "blush spirals" to their caption(glora's should actually be able to learn that just fine!). If you want to get REALLY fancy you can actually do BOTH of those options by duplicating the captions and renaming the images, with making sure the captions are properly differentiated from eachother.
Any news on pony v7/6.9?I don't have discord.
>>8128019No. Modify the script that handles this part and remove the auto settings.
>>8128024
>>8127875How do you even include so much fuckery in a1111? Would it be possible with the Additional Networks addon?
>>8127988>they probably realized having an image with metadata is silly so they removed itFixed it for you. This is so retarded anon. They should explain their work. Allow local to figure out how to acquire 256 h100s but we should at least have the knowledge. They benefit from the competition too mind you because the millions of other open source people will develop things you haven't even thought of (controlnet/ip adapter).
>>8127062>I assume the artist is zzeeonn?yep>resizedsorta. you can't resize gloras apparently. I gutted the thing with manual lora editing:>settingshttps://pastebin.com/AFX1761mI pick meme schedulers and optimizers on purpose, I think the setting is irrelevant so I go out of my way to pick weird or bad choices. you should pick something better.I think DIM/ALPHA matches, I copied your settings mostly, but quantising as FP8 and cutting layers halves the filesize and then some.It should look crunchy.>>8127256I don't know how the original lowlight was trained. Thta being said I'm getting very close in my own testing training from scratch using noise offset(s). I take some existing dataset, fling it through XNConvert to make it dark blue or whatever and keep the same captions. That's producing picrelated so far, which appears to be perfectly on track, but I can do better hopefully. if I give the settings some refinement and manually dice up the lora again, I can probably get it extremely precise.The relevant settings (sd-scripts):--noise_offset--multires_noise_discount--multires_noise_iterationsI don't want to provide values for these because I don't know what's good yet. I've tried noise offsets from 0.06 ish to 0.3, and multires from 6/0.2 to 8/0.4. Make up your own testing here.
>>8128028Thanks.
>>8127990Yes you need to use Forge Couple or Regional Prompter.https://github.com/Haoming02/sd-forge-couple
>>8128030they probably realized that they're so far ahead of local currently that giving away any part of their advantage doesn't make sense. it's stupid but we live in a society so it is what it isthis is also why naiv3 will never ever be leaked btw, even after naiv4 releases
>>8128037>they probably realized that they're so far ahead of local currentlyThat actually makes it more likely they would explain not less. If local is so far behind that they aren't a threat to your bottom line then you would actually help them out to see what ideas they come up with that you can add to v4. Instead it's just radio silence. I'm starting to think v4 actually won't be a huge leap in quality but just a larger dataset.
>>8128037>so far ahead of localI really don't get this, NAI has no loras or controlnet and is far behind local with effort and in-painting.For the benchmark of "retard who wants to gen knowing nothing" NAI is slightly easier to use I guess, but I would never call it better
>>8128030an anon here retrained to vpred easily. there's not much to explain. just slap those techniques on sdxl
Isn't it too early for nai vs pony US edition?
>>8128040>I'm starting to think v4 actually won't be a huge leap in quality but just a larger dataset.im sure this is what it's going to bejust bigger datasetprobably same fucking techbut bigger dataset could be really beneficialthey could unironically remove loli tags but save artist tags
>>8128041and with manual drawing artists are far ahead of local
>>8128041>no loras or controlnet>effort and in-paintingAll that and NAI still looks better. Makes you think.
>>8128031>--noise_offset>--multires_noise_discount>--multires_noise_iterationsThat's all? These have been staples of all my loras so I feel like it has more to do with the dark blue-ing of the dataset. But what exactly are you doing? Training 50 dark blue images as a style lora then cutting up the blocks? I imagine using difference training would be much simpler but I haven't had much luck with the copier method in general so I'm not confident enough to try this.
nai's creativity engine mogs local easily. with local you will generate 15 images that all look like slight seed variations. nai fills in the posing blanks and gives you creative stuff that you wouldn't expect.
>>8128042>there's not much to explainIf it is so simple can you explain it?
>>8128029You have a limit on loras lower than 7? Half of those are just embeddings.
>>8128041Some anons enjoy prompting anime without being forced to train loras for hundreds of hours (to still get trash-looking results)
Can someone tell me what/where to get the iztah1 lora for pixel art? I keep seeing some pretty good pixel art gens use it, but I can't find it for the life of me.
>>8128040that's simply not the way companies think. if your motivation is just to maximize profit then you have 0 reason to give away anything that would weaken your position in the market. and no, nai has no reason to think that any local bakers could come up with any ideas that could help them (what they said about local bakers having a skill issue remains true).
>>8128054if u have the model hash you can put it in civitai to see if its there
>>8128052skill issue>>8128054They're unironically memeing. Get it if you like the style seen >>8128022 here but pony can do pixel art natively. In fact, you can see how much the style loras has lost the pixel look which doesn't happen when you actually prompt pixel art.
>>8128031>sorta. you can't resize gloras apparentlyha ha. I never actually tried but it's entertaining that it just doesn't work.>It should look crunchy.yeah I completely get that with the artist, it was just crunchy in a way that seemed like something wasn't going quite right. primarily with blushes, like in this gridhttps://files.catbox.moe/0qqj7d.pngbut like I mentioned in the other post, I tracked that down to the dataset so it should be entirely fixable.>I pick meme schedulers and optimizers on purposelook here you little shit. Okay, tiger is absolutely a meme choice, but the vast majority of my stuff has been on constant scheduler. It's actually really fucking good but it's a royal pain in the ass and is absolutely not a "safe" option to try and tell random anon's to use in a config if they've never used it before. So I just recommend cosine since it does actually still work just fine(and I've been using it lately because I'm lazy and don't want to deal with fucktons of variations at various step counts).also for noise offsets;for a low-light type of thing, I'd imagine OG noise offset would have the highest impact - it just has a caveat that it does a lot of weird shit and doesn't always play nice with other lora's.Pyramidal(multires) plays nice but I haven't noticed it being able to do swings substantial enough to do what you're probably wanting to do.
>>8128054https://files.catbox.moe/v67gss.safetensorsHere, but only because it makes nogens seethe for some reason
>>8128057Pony definitely had an impact on their subscriber count.
>>8128068Thank you, friend.
What are the best resolutions to gen with AutismMix, without starting to get 2 rows of breasts and such?Also, what is the best method to upscale the image?
>>8128061>skill issueSince nai mogs every single local gen posted here, I'm glad you admit your skill issue!
>>8128071Depends
>>8128074no the way this always goes is>good local gen postednooo NAI is better!>NAI poster is asked to remake it>posts absolute garbage with no fixes on eyes or hands>claims it's betterEVERY gen I have seen from NAI is absolute dogshit
>>8128075On what?
>>8128041>far behind local with effort and in-painting>far behinddo you know what far behind means?>effort and in-paintingyou can spend effort and use inpainting on nai just fine, that's not exclusive to localnai is literally far ahead stylistically and character wise it can be better than loras depending on the character. in general for many styles and characters that you can prompt easily on nai you have to invest time creating a lora that isn't total shit, assuming you have the hardware and the knowledge.the major things pony has over it is more innate sex concepts and local toolsthese comparisons are fucking retarded anyway
>>8128076>animagine TEi sleep
>>8128047https://files.catbox.moe/qbhj31.jpgyeah that's all. nothing fancy.as with the existing lowlight lora, it had tons of side effects, like pose/massive noise and other junkcutting it up and isolating the two useful blocks (OUT01/OUT05) then drilling down into transformer blocks and stuff made the lora miniscule and precise.schizo notes here: >>8119818if you leave the other blocks in the result will be too destructive, noisy and affect other aspects of the image. by isolating just the relevant parts of the lora you effectively turn it into a filter. time consuming but it seems to work.>>8128066>is absolutely not a "safe" option to try and tell random anon's to use in a config if they've never used it beforeI specifically said don't use it. it's fun for me. there's a few cults around specific samplers or optimizers and schedulers, I think they're sorta scrounging for scraps at that point, that's not where the most gains should be had I think. So far it seems like CAME/REX is the gentlest while also converging very quickly, go with that if you want the best result?cosine is my go-to when I'm not running memes. Ultimately there are a limited number of ways to fit a curve, I don't want to think too hard about it.
>>8128076>Worse than cascade 1blmao
here's ur NAI image bro>le SOULLLLLLLL>omg the composition>THE STYLE IS SO GOODgenuinely confusing how people can like how terrible NAI looks
>>8128076does that mean that he didnt train the TE at all or what or do they have their custom arch or something
>>8128084woops sorry accidentally posted cascade 1b heh...
>>8128084funniest part is that fence has better object permanence than you can get on any image in pony
>>8128084NAI really is carried by artist tags, imagine not having them.
>>8128076Well, can any comfy anon test it?
>>8128084This image contains no metadata.HAHAHAHHAH
>>8128072Embarrassed girls are hot. Nice one mate.
>>8128085they didn't train the TE for this test but they will train it for the real model (if it ever exists)
>>8128087here is your NAI image sirBLACK COCKS AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>8128084everytime i think the seethe cant be THAT bad but no, people literally make up shit to downplay nai.haxws
>>8128097catbox??
>>8128097But can pony do aesthetic cocks like that? Check and mate, ponysloppers.
>>8128095oh i see so it is over
>>8128097(its shit)
>>8128088This but for real, I hate pony so much
>>8128097local could never
nai is for pajeets who can't afford a gpu and for brainlets who can't spend 5 minutes learning how to use local
>>8128098lurk for 6 months before posting newfriend
>>8128097>hairy balls on her headI like.
Kamala Harris just made a promise to open source naiv3.
>>8128090i would but the custom node doesn't seem to load or do anything? idk
I don't know why you anons are trying to come up with nai examples. The image that buck breaks local is already in this thread: >>8126019
>>8128079On the prompt and the type of image your going for
>we've become so shit that all the wife posters left>shitposting and nogen posting accelerates
>>8128097Has it ever been discussed that maybe pony is actually based for having faded colors because no matter how hard you try, you will never be able to generate the blackest of cocks on pony compared to NAI?
>>8128117You might be on to something.
>>8128116People make fun of me when I post my wife so I don't post anymore. /v/ is more receptive.
>>8128076https://huggingface.co/waifu-diffusion/wdv-tests
>>8128117So the NAI1 VAE was the most based. It all makes sense now.
>>8128122WE NEED TO GO BACK
>Find out that prompt order makes a difference>Move all the general descriptions at top and fine details at the bottom>Gens turn into pure slop>Try reversing it>Gens now look way betterHow does this make sense? Shouldn't everything setting up the scene be further up and then things like eye color and sweat be at the bottom?
>>8128121EVERYLOCALBAKERISDELUSIONAL
>>8128117>the model being bad>is actually good>because i cant do thingswow
>>8128120>People make fun of me when I post my wifeSorry bro she just looks like a typical ponysloppa. You should do better, it's you wife after all, not some random slut.
>>8128125I've always just viewed it as things higher in the prompt are weighted as if you (x:0.1) them or something.
>>8128114Random 1girl standing pedo gen? Who are you breaking with that? The lucky star poster?
>>8128113Try following the instructions here >>8128121
>>8128126neggles and jordach literally can't spend a second without talking about how their useless prototype is already better than pony lmao
I just have no interest if I can't run it locally, that goes for LLMs as well, not your machine not your model.If I don't have control of my model it isn't my workflow and subject to whatever some 3rd party decide I can make
>>8128082>I specifically said don't use itI mean, you're not wrong. I just felt called out and like I had to defend constant-chan's honor, considering how much work I've done while using it.Also, man, I'd fucking kill for a scheduler that was just constant with a delayed decay function.
>>8128132kill yourself and stay in the wdV trooncord, trauter
>>8128131I'm very sorry, anon, you are too blind to see the intricacies of that masterpiece behind your anti-pedo rage.
>>8128133"it beats pony bro, trust me bro!">only posts examples of 1girl standingevery timelocal jeets will never win, just spent another $100 to support Anlatan.
>>8128129>You should do better, it's you wife after allYou know what? You're right.
>>8128134based. wef jews can fuck themselves. I will own it
guys, everybody behave! neggles onee-sama is visiting this thread.
>>8128121oh hey you guys found it alreadyi updated the thing with instructions but forgot to add that u need to run swarm's updater after u add the extension so it will rebuild with the new file, so if it's not working do that
>>8128121>NotImplementedError: Cannot copy out of meta tensor; no data! Please use torch.nn.Module.to_empty() instead of torch.nn.Module.to() when moving module from meta to a different device.
>>8128133lmk when astralite learns to train a model without slaughtering poor innocent text encoders thx
Someone get jordach
>>8128139post her
>>8128141lol i've been on 4chan since 2006 you can't hurt me
>>8128149no, that's the point. we're all very aware of how dogshit of a model pony is, which makes it all the more embarrassing that none of the other local bakers have been able to produce something better.
>>8128148RTFM dumbass it uses a custom noise schedule that doesn't work with every sampler
>>8128152Why do local bakers hate transformers so much?
>>8128097do another
>>8128158box?
>>8128155I just tried to load the model in A1111. Not gonna use cumrag spagetti just to test another 1girl standing model.
>>8128152mr niggles what is your tagging policy
I'm done trying to get this one to work, the dude always end on weird positions
>Jordach has a meltdown because cascade can't handle more than 75 tokens>He noticed after 9 epochs and months of trainingbig uff
>>8128156huggingface code is great for fucking around and plugging things together to see what does or doesn't work, like it's good for experimenting it's an utter nightmare when u want something actually performant because it tries to be clever and magical which works great until you try to do something it didn't see coming and explodesiirc accelerate still can't do gradient accumulation on two models at once
>>8127780Genuinely, how do I get my gens to be more 2D?
>>8128167put 3d in negativesput (2d:1.5) in positives
>>8128167negpip 3d and realistic
>>8128161lol yeah that absolutely won't workit's v-prediction with zero terminal SNR and a wacky custom noise schedule cooked up by our resident mad scientist auto has zero hope of working
>>8128149Nobody here thinks pony is a good model but this is an /h/ thread which means we expect something other than being decent at "1girl, outdoors, by artist" being able to understand posing, positions, and anatomical accuracy is the baseline here.
>>8128167Use a base model that's good at 2d.
>>8128160https://files.catbox.moe/1roluh.pngWith same prompt, but no upscaling
>>8128169Already do that>>8128168Thanks, I'll try this
>same prompt but completly different poseThanks RAUNet, very cool
>>8128166do you plan on releasing a list of the tags that were used when training the model?
>>8128171sir i am not lykon i do actually sort of know what i'm doingi'll have you know it can do at LEAST like. three or four poses. maybe five. idk try itn.b. fingats are still fucked, i have a fix for that and it works (see pic, is from more recent ckpt) but i fucked some other shit in this one so it's not usable
>>8128120I just get awkward silence usually. Not sure which is worse.
>>8128180Who is a better coder? You or Jordach?
>>8128179yeah when we get to an actual release of some sort there will be details of what we did to make itthis ain't that it's just something that worked better than we expected and people have been asking us to post
>>8128112catbox? I really like this soft-ish style
>>8128076Interesting! I hope someone in comfyui can go and test this soon.Also completely unrelated but pony (or atleast the mix I'm using) is having a lot of difficulty generating thighjobs. The loras on civitai could be better, they seem to always hide the male subject or have very forced perspectives. It took me a lot of wrangling to manage this gen without too much inpainting.
>>8128180>dollslutbased
>pony got lucky guys
>>8128190I still can't believe they made an actually great game after so many years of gachashit.
>>8128184i rewrote basically the entirety of generative-models and made it 25% faster: https://github.com/neggles/neurosisadded a whole bunch of other shit too. i'm not happy with a lot of it but it does the job.so, you tell me ig
Me every time I see a pony genhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNxeF4KMsY
>>8128126
>>8128180>sirAssuming>three or four poses. maybe five.I'll test it once you put out a model you are actually confident in. I'm just backing up the idea that people only call out the "beats pony after 1 epoch" because it doesn't in the ways that actually are on topic here.
>>8128193all that theory and none of the resultsdamn
>>8128191it's pretty aspect-ratio-sensitive and it was trained with no commas - underscores for multi-word tags and spaces betweenie "1girl huge_breasts looking_at_viewer"sometimes more steps helps, seems to like 832x1216 res for portrait, cfg7-7.5this is why it's a test thing not a real release lmao
>>8128050no, but you can ask neggles >>8128170
>>8128184jordach made his own stage c trainer from zero + created an actual gui for comfy that is purposely designed to look like a1111 so it can be user-friendly. he did this alone.neggles has a team.
>>8128199sir is a vibe not an accusation of genderand yeah that's valid, this *was* about 25 million samples at least so there's that.
>>8128201>it's pretty aspect-ratio-sensitive and it was trained with no commas - underscores for multi-word tags and spaces between>>ie "1girl huge_breasts looking_at_viewer"It's going to be same for the full release?
>>8128171Real and true. Pony/autism can produce concepts like facesitting, kissing, etc, etc... that are so far beyond any other local model when it comes to anatomy its not even funny.
>>8128203i have a "team" but i really have a me, a mad scientist and sometimes derrian (who is some kind of tag wizard)i'm the one who writes 90% of the code and desu i wish i *had* started from scratch
>>8128211(and nai code)
Did forge update and completely break the NAI script?
>>8128208no, i've already fixed most of these issues i just caused other ones along the way and haven't had time to do reruns + add the next set of enhancements because work's been busy as fuck
I am trying wdv prealpha, while i appreciate the colors i cant really say it's usable... this is trying "by oda non" as the artist style..
>>8128212kurumuz i deleted that already c'mon dude let it go (never used it anyway)
REMINDER
Xir I hope you don't end up like astrakike because once we criticized his garbage dogshit model he proceeded to never come back here again and stay on trooncord with his cocksuckers instead
>>8128201Sure just make the prompt format incompatible with literally every other model out there.
>>8128216i cummed
>>8128219Astra still lurks tho. Maybe he even posts
>>8128216drop the "by" and use underscore >>8128219desu i expected worse than this, why would i be mad about valid criticism
>>8128164
>>8128134>If I don't have control of my model it isn't my workflow and subject to whatever some 3rd party decide I can makemeanwhile>>8128170>auto has zero hope of workingenjoy the control of your local model with cumrag ui
>>8128224>he was the anti-nai smudge-obsessed schizo all this timeno fucking way
>>8128222i have an extension/node that seamlessly reformats prompts transparently while ur not looking, it'll get folded into the wdv extension/node before actual release
>>8128222reuse animagine TEincompatible with animagine promptingthe gallthere's a reason there are no previews
>>8128221She doesn't seem like the kind of person to blush, well...ever. One of those girls that gets her clothes torn off in battle and continues fighting like it's nothing.
>>8128167You can start by actually posting metadata.
>>8128225Why wouldn't you use "by" for artists? So often their names just sound like some item or concept or 1girl name. Don't confuse the TE please.
>>8128189I've found the thigh sex tag to be kind of shit and have had better luck doing things like "between thighs" and letting it just kind of go from there
>>8128211>desu i wish i *had* started from scratchbetter do it now than never, i bet there's a fucking lot of things you could do better now instead of using the current trainer, im talking about optimizations and shit
>>8128226>multidiffusionI mean, if I used the regular workflow I would probably achieve it as well but since some days ago i'm using RAUNet and high base resolution to gen, thanks for proving it can be doable tho
>>8128231animagine prompting kinda works?>there's a reason there are no previewsyeah it's called "it's 1am, i'm on my phone, and i simply cannot be fucked" - here's one
>>8128194
>>8128236Yeah thigh sex always bleeds "sex" so I do "penis between thighs."
>>8128234because i still haven't even implemented the tag preprocessor/filter/merger/pruner so it is Literally Just Raw Tags And I Shuffled Themthis was a *violently* braindead run
>>8128239sar, what are you achieving by censoring lolis from your model?who are you trying to please?surely we need yet another censored model
>>8128233I'm legitimately retarded, so I just play prompt roulette and see what comes out. pls no bullyhttps://files.catbox.moe/86vxmd.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/4zric5.png
has the thread ever been this active? did all the euros get the day off to watch the olympics?
Curious how every famous porn model finetuner ends up here eventually, we first had astrakike, then jordach then neggles... Is there a reason why? Is this thread KINO itself, or sum shit?
>>8128028Wonder what this masking stuff being talked about is for. Is it for helping detect concepts better, or will it be used similarly like masked lora training, where a mask tells the trainer what not to learn in an image?Also 25 million images is absolutely nuts. I hope the majority isn't just mlp stuff.>>8128191>>8128214The colors are really good. Imo for being a test it's not the worst. I'd say keep cooking chef.Also this image isn't wdv, it's pony.
>>8128239>it's 1am>I'm on my phone>I provide a highly detailed setup guide and helper scripts on huggingface>but no previewsI wanna believe man, but you're being really weird about this whole thing
>>8128193mr niggles how about upping the number of vae channels then
reminds me of Lykon's "unskilled users" SD3 release cope.
>>8128221Very nice.
>>8128251Yeah seconding this, use your cluster for good and retrain a model with a 16ch vae, it's already available for SDXL
>>8127546Lmao, there were anons that posted censored images while randomly criticizing gens without explanation.
>>8128247It's been picking up in activity recently.>has the thread ever been this active?Of course, after both nai and pony released.
>>8128216Wow, this is definitely "better than pony">>8128126Every time
>>8128239Are you planning on using quality tags and if so are you planning the standard based on top danbooru posts, konachan as some have suggested, or something different?
>>8128216i literally can't see the difference from this gen to a cascade gen
>>8128213Hey bros someone PLEASE RESPOND
don't ask hawd qwestions am on phone yawn honk shoo
dear neggles (or yoinked, or trauter, i know everything you guys post in all channels including that time you, yoinked, tried to shill sd3-2b as being 'better than 8b' despite it clearly not. look how that turned out)i appreciate the effort in surpassing pony and nai, but right now there is still a lot to do. neggles, your anti-coomer 'safe horny' approach won't win you any wars. we're coomers and you are too, stop playing this game of 'ugh i have to look at PORN to make this model, ick!'. embrace it or don't bother. you have the resources and the knowledge to make a good model, do the needful. implement your miku engine or whatever and try to find some way to bring up low-result artist tags. porn is good and so is high-res porn, not all art is equal and the amount of low quality vastly outnumbers the high-quality and the model needs to account for that. use hires boorus for free aesthetic classification. spoiler: it works better than score tags. come up with some way to remove duplicate garbage variant spam that doesnt get picked up by md5. hint: i use histogram similarity though it takes a long time to process. remove crappy text-only junk that clogs up the dataset. remove useless incomprehensible 10-panel comics. i will elaborate no further, best of luck. dont get filtered
>>8128248One of the few places where people know what they're doing. We carried the first month or so of pony, when Civitai and normies realized it's good we already had a hundred style loras. And most of them were in better quality that Civitai gets today.
>>8128245god i'm so tired of people asking this. we didn't censor jack shit, if you knew what the content you're talking about actually was you wouldn't care at allanyway we don't talk about datasets these days so. if you're concerned about this, much as it pains me, you have nothing to worry about.>>8128248i've posted in here before just as anonalso im procrastinating
>>8128250i copy pasted the setup guide from a DM i sent to someone i gave an advanced copy a few weeks ago & edited it a bit
>>8128263I don't know. I'll ask my mom tomorrow
>>8128246i've tried the model you're using and it seems to create more realistic gens by default, if any of the loras you're using also add photorealism then that's thatyou can try adding photo related tags into negs, but i would recommend using some of the innate pony artists to make it more 2d, often they can improve other aspects of the image, if your gpu is good then you can afford to run some grids to see which ones work best with your prompt setuphttps://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stufflook there for innate styles if you want, keep in mind that they might not look great on the previews but the results will be different if you mix them especially together with your prompt, loras and checkpoint
>>8128267im sorry neggles sama, its just that my cute little underage peak sex appeal body type 2d girls are very important to me i cant help it, its just natural for me to worry about them, please forgive me
>>8128254>16ch vae>it's already available for SDXLhuh, is it?
>>8128267
>>8128274Yes but needs a model retraining. It's not something you can instantly use.
>>8128265i have good news for you anon, what you just said is pretty much already the plan!why does everyone think i'm trying to make a safe model? i'm not, i'm just not concerned about NSFW capabilities specifically b/c if the model's good in general it'll be good at that too (and people can do loras etc themselves, community is good at that)>>8128261yes but haven't decided exactly which ones or chosen a specific method of assigning them yet. gonna try a bunch of shit and see what works probably
>>8128276you've got it backwards. there is not a sdxl 16 channel vae, there's a 16 channel one that the guy is training an adapter for
>>8128265hires boorus have concept bias, not just style
the retardation level is so astronomically high that this has to be anon larping
>>8128277>just bake a lora!its over...
>>8128283Cant say i've ever needed a concept lora with pony. Oh well, astralite wins again.
>>8128283as soon as the model trainer has the mentality 'just make a lora' or 'just inpaint', it's over.
xirs somebody please do the needful and post a hiiragi kagami gen with the wdV test
>>8128213forge or reforge?forge is dead (if you update it), if you updated it and something broke then revert to the previous version, idk what's the latest functional one
>>8128238So then how does RAUNet compare to multidiffusion? Are you saying it has problems with prompt comprehension? I still haven't switched over because I don't think it's worth it.
cant you fuckers just be happy. i give you the best local has to offer and you still complain. as to be expected from the ungrateful bunch that shits all over the hard work artists do. realism, cartoon, anime, pony, furry, you name it ponydiffusion can do it. but that's not enough. you find non-issues to complain about like 'sepia' and tag hashing instead of just being thankful for what you have. and regarding the hashes. i made this clear. just because you get something for free doesn't mean you get everything for free. i reserve hashes for personal use though i've seen cases where loras do better so you aren't missing out on much. it's my model so i have to reserve /some/ things for myself, and in the end it doesn't matter much because you can always bake a lora anyway. for those who still follow the faith, v7 is coming soon so be on the lookout. it's going to be a gamechanger and i'm sure you wont be disappointed
>>8128287Forge got updated to gradio 4 which broke everything
>>8128267>if you knew what the content you're talking about actually was you wouldn't care at allWell danbooru already has 1500 fewer images of chloe_von_einzbern than gelbooru, and then on top of that 30% of them are tagged as loli, and she is a developed girl and not some toddler, so EXCUSE ME FOR CARING.
>>8128290Thank you Astralite, OH THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR PLEASE SIR CUM IN MY MOUTH SIR AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GIVE ME THAT YELLOW PISS SAR
yiff yiff time to fuck the dog! joooooordach out!
>>8128286
>>8128246Is this 2d enough?
>>8128288>So then how does RAUNet compare to multidiffusion?Well, instead of getting a good base gen and then upscale it, you gen directly at a high resolution and the thing just weks>Are you saying it has problems with prompt comprehension?Yes, maybe my settings are wrong but it just completely ignores parts of my prompt for no reason
>>8128286i would but i'm not using cuntfyui, wasted time downloading this fucking model>>8128297sovl
>>8128290sir astragod, please take your alzheimer medication as you have forgotten your trip and that the next pony model is v6.9
yeah this is some random anon larping
>>8128281if you have not yet noticed that i am peak stupid i don't know what to tell you>>8128283i'm gonna level with you chief i have barely tried generating NSFW with this but what i did try seemed to mostly worklike to be clearthis is the worst this model can possibly be. it was trained with the wrong TEs, a slightly incorrect noise schedule, in the wrong precision, with zero prompt augmentation, no deduplication, and an incomplete datasetand it's. still kinda alright! does B&W manga pretty well.but most importantly, if this is what it's like braindead, it might actually get good after all that other shit's done
>latest iteration of the ellen lora forgot how to generate the control top againnot like this
>>8128225>masterpiece, best quality, 1girl, standing, facing viewer, looking at viewer, elf, blonde hair, ((oda_non))looks nothing like the artist. bake. again.
>>8128232Very true. Also made her tits bigger.Because I can
>>8128304>but most importantly, if this is what it's like braindead, it might actually get good after all that other shit's donejordach said the same thingit's gonna lock in any 2 weeks nowrandom larping anon pls
>>8128266>we already had a hundred style lorasTo be fair it's because people were put off by "pony" in the name and went to animagine instead.
>>8128304Than how is it better than pony (your words). I just want to understand sir, please enlighten us.
>>8127824even asurauser feels like ancient history, a time of ignorance when prompting and training felt more like sorcery
>>8128306(drop your probably-schizo-i-haven't-looked neg prompt)but yeah way ahead of u
Can wdV or Cascade do something like this yet?
>>8128249>Also 25 million images is absolutely nuts. I hope the majority isn't just mlp stuff.I imagine he'll split it up evenly like he did last time.
>>8128310it is better than pony because it makes people angry when i say that
>>8128316cascade can't even generate consistent eyes
>>8128318
>>8128319They'll clear up in the next partial epoch
>>8128318kek well there it is everyone
>>8128304quick question what's the total of hardware you guys are allowed to use
>>8128306it's literally a 5 epoch model right now. older wds took til around 8-10 epochs, they all looked like this in the beginning. the fact it can do so much right now is a majorly good outlook for the future.
"haha they're so mad""hey why do people hate us"
>>8128327Why do all of these bakers even come here? What the fuck do they expect?
You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
also i removed a bunch of slurs from the dataset tags, like trap or otoko no ko. they're women so to prompt them you can just use 1girl
>>8128328this is ground zero of nsfw image gen
>>8128277>gonna try a bunch of shit and see what works probablyGood to hear you are going to try different things. My food for thought is breaking down the different things people are thinking when prompting quality tags and possibly creating different types of quality datasets. Some will throw in "masterpiece" at an artist that does cel shading hoping for better anatomy and perspective only for it to come out more soft shaded since soft shaded images tend to rate higher.
>>8128328This thread is the 19th century paris of imagegen
>>8128327dont fucking @ me
>>8128318mr niggles is this your acceptance of defeat
>>8128328any activity or attention is dopamine for them I guessI want cute waifus, they don't provide cute waifus, therefore they are no longer relevant to meI will check in again once they can provide cute waifus
>>8128318it only makes me angry that we have no other choice but to keep using pony for several more months because every other local baker is even more incompetent than astralite
>>8128337no no astra got lucky you don't understandplease no astra he totally just stumbled onto the resultlook how messed up his TE is please it's so bad please
>>8128330can you replace dark-skinned male with handsome indian male?
Holy hell this thread is even more worse than the last thread
>>8128341What do you mean? This is peak.
best thread we've had in weeks
remember when artiwaifu dropped and the authors had no idea how to even reproduce their previewsand that their in-progress model was somehow better than their end resultand how their previews were from the in-progress models across various epochsand how they didn't know how to prompt their own modelsame energy
Jordach was right.
>>8128152>since 2006You would think wdv would be out by now with almost 20 year in the backing, any days now
>>8128338he did get lucky, thoughif he didn't he'd have released another version by now. he's got what, 4-6 a100's by now?it's been 7 and a half months and he has literally nothing else to show for it. and, unfortunately, everyone else with access to hardware to release shit for local is busy doing stupid shit in other, different ways that completely ruin whatever it is they work on.it's incompetence the full way down.
>>8128345sampler: this oneschedule: x, y or maybe Z~20 stepsrange for CFGno known negative, just not like Animagine
>>8128325i can't discuss that anymore, sorry :/>>8128328i came here to have a good time and you're all a lot more mad than i am, so so far it's worked out fine>>8128330finally an impostor, what took you so long
>>8128349yeah he will just get lucky again for v7you're right thanks anon
jordach won.
>>8128125What style is that? I can see a bit of shirow maybe?
>>8128345i don't know because i haven't used it enough to work it out, ive just noticed weird shit happens when you fiddle with the negative too muchdidn't feel like wasting time characterizing it when i'm throwing this one away anyway
>>8128349asstroon was going to bake on sd3 but then that went to hell because he couldnt make money off it so he had to fall back to xl
>>8128345he seems to have the right idea in terms of dataset curation so i hope euge keeps trying
dont @ me cir
>>8128300I've actually been enjoying generating at base res. I've been doing hires fix for months and it's annoying when you mistype something or AI doesn't understand the prompt correctly and you have to wait a while just to see how it turns out. I'm also impressed by how nice base res looks (after adetailer). I really don't remember it looking this good. Maybe I'm just looking for reasons not to switch to reforge. How long does it take you to gen in RAUNet compared to base res?
The dynamic range/color on the wdV images being posted is pretty kino, I really do hope it succeeds. Just bake and ignore this general Neggles.
>>8128341>Jordach starts posting ITT>Anons asks him important and serious questions about the bake or his other projects or ignores him >Anons jokes about him when he's not posting but only simple nogen jokes >Nothing more than that happens>Neggles starts posting ITT>The biggest shitshow meltdown I've ever seen on this thread since weeks agoIs there a reason why neggles is so memeable, compared to jordach?
>>8128125earlier tags gets more emphasisi try and visualize what the tag is filling in, sometimes that collarbone or bare shoulders tag is exactly what you need at the fore
>>8128290Kek even my bait was better than this.
>>8128357>this is a public test>how do I test it>idkwhy are people reacting like this? 4chan gonna 4chan yep that's itit's not my botched release
>>8128364who?
>>8128368me
>>8128272>i've tried the model you're using and it seems to create more realistic gens by defaultI get similar results with autism and reweik, so it might just be my loras.>>8128299Kind of the opposite of what I want, I'm trying to get flatter shading and more defined lines.
>>8128369not sure who you are but nice to meet you
>>8128305Don't be like me. Make sure you typed everything in correctly and there's not any shitty typos or missed commas.
Jordach.. astralite.. neggles... euge... the chinese DIT bakers..WHO WILL WIN?
>>8128363that is the planimma dip now but enjoy the thing anonsi'll have something nicer for you at some point. hopefully soon!
>>8128364jordach finished his prototype months ago and is actually training his model now for starters
>>8128364>biggest shitshow meltdownThere is like 2 anons replying to neggles lol. We don't give a shit about e-celebs here
>>8128374Nothing ever happens.
>>8128374hopefully, you guys, the users
>>8128374there's astra and there's copein order of best to worst results so far:Astra/PDXLEuge/ArtiChinaDITJordach/Resoniggles/WDVNot even trying to be funny, easily the worst outputs so far.
>>8128378
>>8128380Kiss me neggles
>>8128380put kohaku and linaqruf above jordach too and this is the objectively correct list
>>8128339I prefer African male.
>>8128380Yeah that's my assessment as well
>>8128374the hunyuan finetune looks like ass, if you guys give me a prompt i can show you, or you can try yourselves https://www.liblib.art/modelinfo/87e2cc2169934523a2ff82fb12e7206b
>>8128384Kohaku doesn't qualify, he does lora shit not finetunes IIRClinaqruf would be at the same level or higher than arti, same model after all
>>8128355See >>8128246
>wdv trooncord screenshotting all of the posts from this generallmao, hello sirs
>>8128362>How long does it take you to gen in RAUNet compared to base res?I have a 4070 ti super and it takes about 22 sec with adetailer, faster than doing a base gen and hires fix or multidifussion, it looks nice but yeah, the model doesn't follow my prompt that well anymore (which again, could be because my settings are wrong at some parts)
ok i lied here's some previews from someone who's better at prompting than me
>>8128387uhh not this site my bad https://www.shakker.ai/modelinfo/87e2cc2169934523a2ff82fb12e7206b
>>8128388https://civitai.com/models/399873/kohaku-xl-epsiloni don't understand the second comment. do you think artiwaifu and animagine are the same model or what
hi wdv team, all i want to say to you guys isi love cunny
>>8128393pony is fucking finished
>>8128393Oh hey, that looks solid, care the share a catbox for that one so we can see the prompt and settings?
>>8128393Ok this has potential, just bake it to 20+ epochs without everything being completely fucked.See you in 6 months!
>>8128393It's just a portrait bro, we could do that with 1.5.>>8128392We need this, thanks! By the way, that's pony.
>>8128389Yeah noticed after scrolling more, thats too much lora for me to try it out, also if you have an issue with eyes dont use a lora for it but try adetailer instead
>>8128392This is how that prompt should looks btw, I used the regular workflow (base gen and then upscale with hires fix)
How will this affect the value of Jordachcoins?
>>8128399>>8128396>>8128393/h/? I can do better on 1.5 if I want background
>It's over
>>8128406Just dumped another 100k into jordachcoin.
>>8128393>>8128396>>8128396>>8128399>animagine 3.5hooooly kinnoooowho needs nsfw?
>>8128392describe to me what you're going for and ill try and resolve itprompting is harder with higher base res. the model is more prone is decoherence even with RAUnet and a modest 1.5X upscale, and you have to thread the needle and sometimes give up high base resolution
>>8128400i'm afraid it's not my gen and i am on phone but if you go to the 2ho ai and search for images sent by n_ya you'll find a bunch of bangers with meta
>>8128410>mfw everyone was shitting on it and didn't even try it / had skill issues
>>8128410THATS A BIG MOUNTAIN BABY FUCK ME ITS SO AMAZING AND A 1GIRL? I CANT HOLD IT FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>81284132ho ai discord i mean hurr
>>8128411>describe to me what you're going for and ill try and resolve itAlready posted how it should looks like >>8128405 my current RAUNet settings are the same as >>8127799 and my current gen settings are pic relatedShould I increase the CFG value? different specific sampler and scheduler combo? more steps?
Sometimes I wonder if Astralite is lurking in all of the different discords/hdg laughing his ass off at all of this.
neggles just know that you'll get more honest feedback here than from your orbiters. i've been honest about the flaws of pony, nai, cascade, and now wdv. if it's good, people will use it. it's the simple. just keep baking and dont slack off, we're hungry
>>8128257HOLY FUCK DAT ASS catbox?
>>8128416ngl this one looks kino, truly has the 1.5 backgrounds vibes
>>8128392>>8128405Hmm very strange. Guess I'll stay on forge for a bit longer then thanks.
>>8128425Based anon
>wdv will release epochs faster than jordach and eventually eclipse cascade 1b, which will prompt jordach to spitebuy better hardware to catch upsurely we all win in the end
>>8128425fuck u dont tell me what to dou think i care what u retards think about
>>81284271.5 bros...
>>8128425yeah i mean ignoring the obvious low effort trolls nobody's really said anything i don't already know; i have all the same complaints myself and plans that will hopefully fix themwith any luck work will calm down soon and i can do some more runs
>>8128426https://github.com/ashen-sensored/sd_webui_stealth_pnginfoDont have the metadata for that one anymore (got nuked when editing it) but this one should get you close enoughhttps://files.catbox.moe/9mrk23.png
>>8128428>Guess I'll stay on forge for a bit longerI was like you once. Let me tell you it's worth it to upgrade to at least the main branch of Reforge just for AYS. Once you use it there's no going back.
>>8128421i think it's entirely due to prompt structure, though going 30 steps or so is also fine
>>8128441>AYSIt's just a scheduler bro, it doesn't change shit.
>>8128421You need to make sure both your width and height are both divisible by 8. Currently your width is not.Also start with a base resolution that the model supports like 832 width,1216 height. Then multiply those numbers by 1.5, you get:1248 width, 1824 height. Set those as your resolution, and enable raunet.
>>8128441>just for AYSI knooow it was so quick when I used it but for some reason I was getting general slow downs on reforge so the speed was the same in the end. Idk what I did wrong.
>>8128442>i think it's entirely due to prompt structureSo it matters now?, I could rearrange no problem but what the structure should looks like?>>8128444Very interesting, I'll try that
Guys, let us see some of your buttjobs/hot dogging gens https://files.catbox.moe/nfzeb7.png
>>8128439thank you anon!
>>8128445It probably had something to do with your command line args.
>>8128454I use >--xformers --pin-shared-memory --cuda-malloc --cuda-stream
>>8128450>>8127642
>Anal Gameshttps://files.catbox.moe/cgaed8.jpgq_q
>>8128450>futa cock so big he had to box
nai cant seem to do breast sucking consistently, can pony?
sirs please generate onee-shota with breast sucking and please use the tag spoken heart thank you sirs
>>8128456Try and remove --pin-shared-memory and --cuda-stream, I only ever really use xformers and cuda malloc. I remember pin shared memory causing slowdowns when vram was maxed out on my 8 gb vram gpu.
>>8128462>>8128463yes
so this is the power of wdV
>>8128458kys lol
>>8128460sir that gen has (futanari, 1futa, femboy, intersex:1.4) on negs. it is 100% safe for you to masturbate now.
do people still fine tune anymore or are we reach the platue and it goes downlhill from hwer fksbhb fgv
>>8128470We will see a model within the next 6-12 months that is better than what we currently have, but it may just end up being the next pony version with how things are going.
>>8128470I dont really release any of the things I fune tune , mostly because they are just experiments done for fun and probably not useful to anyone.
>>8128446wai ani base, no loras, attempt to recreate pose, 1.5X scale on RAUnet, comfy (different tag weighting than 1111)score_9, (m-da s-tarou:0),1girl, girl on top, thigh, back, kissing, pink hair, black hair, sex, panties aside, torn pantyhose, sailor uniform, saliva string, (spread legs:-1), long hair, blue eyes, testicles, hand on leg, red skirt
>>8128467I think this doesn't look better than cascade 1b, but it looks better than your particular posts of cascade 1b, so at least there's that!
>>8128444>>8128446So yeah, seems like the resolution was the problem, many thanks for pointing that out, so I assume the rest of my settings and prompt is fine?
a cordial reminder that you need to do hyperparameter optimization studies every time you train a new architecture or a fundamentally different dataset from the last time you trained ;)that means all of the hyperparameters that are up for grabs, not just one or two parameters. also grid search doesn't work very well but it beats hyperparam reuse. out of my limitless benevolence i will share with hdg a crop from an nvidia paper demonstrating what nvidia's ml experts consider hyperparameters worth looking out for.you too can have very cool models that look very good and it won't take 10 years on someone else's rented cluster to get there either, if you only learn to read...
>>8128481wow nobody has ever thought that hyperparameters are important before, thank you for your insight kind anon!
>>8128481If you actually wanted to be helpful you would have linked the paper so I can have gpt read for me and summarize.
>>8128478Looks good to me. Very nice gen! You can try and mix and match different samplers and schedulers. My personal favorites are:-Euler SMEA Dy sampler and SGM Uniform schedulerDPM++ SDE CFG++ sampler and normal scheduler or SGM Uniform. (remember to use very low cfg values with any cfg++ samplers, like 1.5-2 cfg)
>>8128401Nah, thinking the timeframe is just about a month or so from now? start of september give or take.
>>8128488i don't know if you're part of the wd team or just a rando but reminder that they claimed they would release wdv months ago
>>8128410animagine V4 is already in the works, started training. they also apparently did a lot of manual additions to make sure some lesser represented anime have their data in it too via screenshots.
>>8128490that's pretty hype unironicallyis it still sdxl?
>>8128490What about /h/?
>>8128493considering the melty the guy had about porn its probably not a priority
>>8128494>considering the melty the guy hadWhat? Why is there always something with these people?
>>8128458nicegot a box for the top one?
>>8128292Reforge guy here, man can confirm. Did a branch just to test it (and be upstream with forge main branch) and half of the things work, but I hope he can manage to make gradio 4 usable.Also it seems Illya is changing the backend for something on his own? Will be checking out that, but in another branch of course. Maybe there he will add support for SD Cascade/SD3/Aura Flow, etc and then I can add custom things there
>>8128492Unsure about those kinds of details, nothing on their discord really suggests one way or another.
>>8128487Some anon posted the last thread that using Euler SMEA Dy along with RAUNet aren't going to produce good results, what do you think? I also have yet to try out any of the "CFG++" samplers, how many steps should I be using with those?
>>8128490Source though?
>>8128501The Discord of the creators; CagliostroLab
>pony rentry hasn't been updated in a weekIt's never been more over than it is now
>>8128503I haven't even looked inside for over 2 months. Surprised somebody still bothers to update it. Are people still interested in loras and hashes for this retarded model?
>>8128500A/B some yourself
>>8128497Do you think EAUNet is sable enough to get in the Main branch? I want to test it but only it.
>>8128497can you let me know if this extension works on reforge? doesnt seem to be working for mehttps://github.com/pamparamm/sd-perturbed-attention
>>8128500I'm the guy who has posted all the monochrome blue eyed black haired girl gens in this thread. Each one I've used Euler SMEA Dy + SGM uniform/simple/normal + RAUnet.Said gens in question:>>8125944>>8126013>>8126173>>8126224>>8126273>>8127681>>8127737>>8127787>>8128189I haven't seen any issues using mentioned sampler/scheduler combo. But feel free to point out any weird stuff/bad mistakes in the images, I'm always looking for feedback!
>>8128502Wish them good luck. But after genning a couple gender reassigned "vaginas" with their 3.1 I'm not confident they care enough for that part of the model and probably just want some fully clothed 1girls in some le epic settings.
>>8128509Not possible because the main branch has the same backend as OG Forge (or mostly), which is basically comfy backend from 6 months ago. The extension uses some functions of comfy upstream (or at least from 1 month ago)I would update the main backend but since a lot of extensions use the code of OG Forge, I can't do it (like IC Light or Layered diffusion)>>8128512Do you get any issue or no effect? I tested on main branch and it seems to work for sure. Or are you in dev branch?pag_enabled: True, pag_scale: 3, pag_rescale: 0, pag_rescale_mode: full, pag_adaptive_scale: 0, pag_block: middle, pag_block_id: 0, pag_block_list: , Version: f1.0.0-v1.10.1RC-previous-365-ge7fa9a60
>>8128490>animagineiosnthtat only sfw?
>>8128519It'll be DOA, everything except pony is a meme until proven otherwise.
>>8128516Yeah, I'm also getting decent results with that combo, no idea why anon posted that then
>>8128512>>8128520Okay tested PAG on dev_upstream and it also workspag_enabled: True, pag_scale: 3, pag_rescale: 0, pag_rescale_mode: full, pag_adaptive_scale: 0, pag_block: middle, pag_block_id: 0, pag_block_list: , Pad conds: True, Version: f1.0.0dev-v1.10.1RC-previous-614-g85f165aa
>>8128500>>I also have yet to try out any of the "CFG++" samplers, how many steps should I be using with those?Same amount you would do with other samplers, e.g 20-30 steps. Important part is keeping cfg low.
>>8128527cute
>>8128521Not really, this is animagine: https://archiveofsins.com/data/h/image/1721/51/1721516040211453.jpgWell technically it's trifusion but it's mostly animagine based and you can get something similar on animagine 3.1 as well.It's not sfw, it just sucks at sex.
>>8128505It's, at some extent, kind of worth looking for loras that 4chink's /h/ sekrit club baked.
>>8128527Can you post a catbox? What settings do you use with this combo?
>>8128534Bro you can just name it, it was already posted 5 times in the past 3 weeks, nobody new even came there because nobody cares.
>>8128529i was testing it with euler cfg++ and it seems to only not work with that euler type samplermaybe they conflict or its counter intuitive
>>8128541Ah that may be possible, I guess you start to mix CFG++ way to do CFG (which is basically disable_cfg1_optimization True), probably interferes between PAG and CFG++ with how CFG works.
>>8128536Bro? already did, don't you have https://rentry.org/hdgcb ?>>8128530I seeDPM++ SDE CFG++ with SGM Uniform is looking really promising
>>8128477i wasn't particularly trying to show what 1b resonance is capable of so that's fair
>>8128547i was hoping to use a very low cfg with ++ then make up the difference with pag but if they never work together im fine with that since im pretty happy with ++ in general
>>8128538Ngl, I'm interested in joining. I assume It's a hdg discord you're talking about right? How or where do I find a link to it?
>>8128496herehttps://files.catbox.moe/x6b7f3.png
>>8128556Thanks
>>8128548glad you resolved your issues, might as well post the prompt i arrived atscore_9, (m-da s-tarou:0),1girl, (kissing:1.2), hetero, clothed female nude male, 1boy, (pink hair:1.15), vaginal sex, panties aside, pantyhose, sailor uniform, testicles, long hair, blue eyes, hand on leg, red skirt, red sailor collar, looking at viewer, saliva string, black hair, (two-tone hair:-1.1), (pov:-1.1)seemed reasonably stable across seeds and with modification for position
>>8128562and a pic with reweik
>>8128516What model?
Okay again reforge guy hereAdded "default" samplers as how they're implemented on Comfy, so they should use CFG/Noise correctly as they are expected to work. The stock A1111 samplers are basically patched to work, so they have some issues in some models. Depending of the sampler, you can get pretty different results.https://files.catbox.moe/kzxkqk.pngBut in any case, I think I have too many samplers now, not sure how to manage it IoI.
>pony knows klara from pokemonunironically based
>>8128563reweik v1.2 or v1.1?
>>8128565reweik v11:https://civitai.com/models/404802?modelVersionId=451340
>>8128562it was actually wai ani lol, must have switched back when loading from history, here's one reweik 1.2 just adding missionary early in the prompt
>>8128567thank youreforge master, have you considered implementing automaticCFG, it proposes speedup and lack of headache from cfg scale managinghttps://github.com/Extraltodeus/ComfyUI-AutomaticCFG
>>8128567aalso is there a way to baseline set cfg below 1 or do I need to edit the python file?
>>8128574that node has more side effects than you might think, and last i used was incompatible with CFG++
>>8128575You can edit ui_config.json (since cfg can't be set below 0 by default, it is an autogenerated file. Or maybe it can but I'm not sure how IoI), but check https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/discussions/61>>8128574Huh it's a comfy extension, so it's possible. It's a lot of code though, but will have it mind. Maybe the weekend I can give it a go? IRL works kill me.
>>8128497He's switching his backend from comfy to diffusers. RIP forge, it's about to become like the vladmandic fork.
>>8128582Nice crosspost
>>8128567baseddo you have any info on the ODE samplers?
>>8128579I'll buy it. Just kinda funny / frustrating trying cfg++ and the gen looks perfect with clean lines until the last step and it's like the AI got Parkinsons
let's check on how /d/ is doing>>>/d/11075488 >>8128584that never happened
i like you're concept anon, it was a bitch to actually dial in without tons of instability from seed to seed thoscore_9, (m-da s-tarou:0),1girl, (kissing:1.2), back, hetero, clothed female nude male, 1boy, (pink hair:1.15), vaginal sex, panties aside, pantyhose, sailor uniform, testicles, long hair, blue eyes, hand on leg, red skirt, red sailor collar, looking at viewer, saliva string, black hair, (two-tone hair:-1.1), (pov:-1.1), ass
>>8128587Bad day to have eyes
>>8128587it really gets progressively worse left to right.
>>8128582I might be very slow, but I just now realized /d/ is more popular than /h/ kek.This world is fucked, isn't it? No wonder we get all sorts of weirdos here with their BBW and other western degeneracy, it's just the norm, not the exception anymore...
>>8128587Weird. There's a lot of gross stuff being posted in that thread but everyone is acting extremely civil towards each other. Do shitposters just not go on /d/ or something?
>>8128587i'd like to know how the person behind it looks like
>>8128585Honestly I just implemented them, and their live preview doesn't work for some reason IoI. They're like "DPM Adaptive" but good I think https://github.com/redhottensors/ComfyUI-ODE>>8128586If just on the last step that happens, you can try with "Always discard next-to-last sigma".
How hard is it to train a vae? With all the complain of the sdxl vae I would have thought someone tried making a better one?
>>8128587Looks cleaner than the average /h/ slop tbqhwaoyf.
>>8128592that's how generals look when only namefags who treat it as their discord channel post there
oh, as a suggestion for reforgei use a SDXL resolution selector and scale factor to generate empty latents. so i choose for instance 832 x 1216 from a dropdown, then set 1.5 scale, to make 1248x1824 or other factors of the default resolution with minimal tedium.
>>8128592The only event is when the 1 nogen guy starts acting up because he's upset at all the futa dick and tries to push then out into their own thread. Bet it's the same schizo from here honestly.
>>8128588Tried your exact prompt and now I have better results overall, lol, to be honest I quite literally used almost all the tags provided here without any care about the order and expected the best>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7417828?q=greenopiMaybe short prompts are actually better for RAUNet gens?
>>8128603Now stick a pokeball in there.
Is this stupid? a guide on civit said to set it up like this. set repeats to one and increase epochs until you hit 1800 steps
>>8128602prioritize the most prominent elements of the scene, start with as simple a prompt as you can manage, then bugfixlike at first i was just going1girl, (kissing:1.2), clothed female nude malebut it was unstable and prone to putting in two-headed girls kissing each other, so i was forced to add redundancy/coverage and land on 1girl, (kissing:1.2), hetero, clothed female nude male, 1boyto suppress two-headed monsters (though some of those gens resulted in perfectly fine scenes like this)
>>8128607yes it is stupid not because of the number of steps but why are you using civitai's lora trainer
>>8128610because my 1080 can't train pony loras
>>81286118gb of vram is enough
>>8128605I suck at inpainting I will leave that to someone else
>>8128603that looks dangerous
>>8128613already tried it. I left it running overnight and it only had 8% progress. I can train 1.5 loras overnight but not pony.
>>8128625then clearly you didn't setup correctly, it should be 3 hours maxmake sure ram offloading is offtrain on fp8turn gradient checkpointing on
>>8128611can you even gen pony-based models on a 1080 What kind of speeds are you getting?
>>8128635literally nothing else matters besides vram and 8gb is enough
>>8128635it takes like 3-5 minutes per gen depending on model and complexity
>>8128497What file do I edit to resolve this error?>OSError: [WinError 123] The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect: 'outputs\\txt2img-images\\412839413\\00000-412839413.png?1722393118.4169977'GPT says gallery.py but nothing happened.
>>8128638From OG Forge?
>>8128639No I just installed the main branch of reforge.
>>8128640Ah, can you send the complete console log?
>>8128471i dont like how its impossible to divorce the burnt pony style with any lora,
>>8128641https://files.catbox.moe/h2fve9.txt
>>8128644Hmm what is even that error IoI, it seems to come from gradio directly? In the output folder, do you have any image at the moment or it doesn't exist? The ?1722393505.9957976 after the .png is pretty weird.
>>8128648Yeah there's some images there. I saw anons posting about gradio earlier so I figured that might have been the problem. I'm also getting this error.https://files.catbox.moe/pcuq2j.txtIOpaint used to work but it's broken after I installed requirements for reforge.
>>8128650By that gradio and Pillow versions, were you using main Forge before? Gradio 4.x is not compatible with reForge (Well is not compatible with any webui except main Forge now)
>>8128652Yeah I was using main forge.
>>8128653I suggest deleting the venv or rename it, and then let reforge create the venv again with the reqs. Probably I have to update the readme for instructions since when Illya updated to gradio 4, it broke that method.
is there any way to get dark images without lora? trying to get night time gens, but it usually just makes the background night time while inside a lit room. trying to get something like >>8125413>>8128635its possible. 2 minutes on 1080 8 gb picrel
https://www.vidu.studio/createLike KLING, but better ish for anime. YMMVIt's fast as fuck compared to competitors atm.gogogogouse a burner emailtry to boomer prompt, verbose and detailed.for example:An anime style girl is looking down at the camera with a cheeky smile on her face. Her pyjamas delicately flows with her shiny black hair, framing her ringed orange eyes. The girl appears to be slow dancing. The girl grins with a wide toothy smile, smirking at the viewer in a smug way.Examples:https://files.catbox.moe/n27iu2.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/h1i6z6.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/lzleu9.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/w967ge.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/iyx84o.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/640oqu.mp4
why is https://github.com/Seshelle/diffusion-noise-alternatives-webui so slow to start up the genkind of frustrating...
>>8128656Nah I'm still getting the same error after. The files show up in the folder but don't show up in the webui and give out the error.
>>8127912Is that from inma seiden? Can you do stuff with the green-haired (reiko) girl from the second episode?
>>8128416Awseome Background.
>>8128673extremely based
>>8128416I'm so sad that Pony can't do backgrounds like this.
>>8128667Okay that's pretty weird, the only way it happens is because the extensions is forcing gradio >4.x.Can you try without the extension?Also fixed an issue with some Ancestral samplers, I hate strings.
>>8128677you can use some detail sliders that add background stuff but yeah nothing that intricate.
>>8128671I would have to make a lora of her
>>8128661spooky
>>8128682>a lora of herOh. Nevermind then. That said, good to see Hitomi in more -Normal- situations. Really one of the strenghts of AI. Like that one dude that come for a couple of threads, learned how to prompt Melfina from Outlaw Star and then left.
>>8128680Yea it doesn't come close to the detail and even cohesion.
>>8128677Don't even think NAI can do that.
>>8128679Nope still getting the error and now my old forge install is getting a nonetype error so I guess I'm screwed.
pls some inori next thread
>>8128706maybe i'll post some, but i need to make twenty different watermarks first
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>>8128661This is the best anime video gen by far I have used. Too bad, I get detected for nsfw multiple times even on rather benign images.
>>8128673>awesome background>would be a shame if someone posted a better one
>>8128677Animagine has an inpainting model too. So you can just make your pony gen as normal, then mask the entire background for inpaint with (masterpiece, best quality)
