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Previous Thread: >>8125921

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki
Optimizations *NEW*
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15821
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15837
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/pull/15824

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Maintained branch:
https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/tree/dev2

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/
https://gitgud.io/gayshit/makesomefuckingporn (use Wayback Machine) *OLD*

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
EF+HLL: https://rentry.org/5exa3 *OLD*
Animation: https://rentry.org/AnimAnon *OLD*

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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The semitransparent/silhouette male thing doesn't want to work.
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reminder that WDV "leaked"
https://huggingface.co/waifu-diffusion/wdv-tests
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>>8128715
ultimate self insert man
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wdv first impressions:
actual sex nsfw (not 1girl standing) is fucked, i presume from lack of homoerotic images from e621 in dataset.
so definitely not a model for us (/hdg/).
pretty promising otherwise, another animagine i guess...
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>>8128745
seems like we'll be baking sexual poses loras just like back in the sd1.5 days if final product will be good
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>>8128753
i refuse going back to 1.5 times
much rather stick to pony bullshiterry than deal with this
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>>8128754
there's so much shit I could do in 1.5 that I can't replicate in pony. vice versa of course, but it's frustrating. we just need that fucking Bing model.
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>>8128745
part of why it feels so similar to animagine is because it uses the same TE
>>8128753
it's not just poses, that prototype sucks at generating vaginas and penises and nude humans interacting in general. but i think part of the problem is that those things suck in animagine, so once the TE gets trained properly it shouldn't be as bad
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>>8128759
>same TE
oh shit, yeah, you may be right
maybe it's not doom and gloom after all...
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>>8128759
its even bad at generating "5.7k danbooru hits girl, clothed" it seems like
>>8128467
>>8128549
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>>8128765
animagine also sucks at kagami desu...
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Really just wish pony could easily make nipples more suckable like this without being a close up shot
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whats the best free tool to make hentai of already existing anime characters?
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>>8128795
your imagination
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Is there an example prompt for WDV? I only get noise no matter what I prompt.
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ReForge anon, can you add regular v-pred+ztsnr support as well as for whatever wdv needs for SDXL?
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>>8128805
are you using the wdv sampler custom node?
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>>8128805
It uses different sampling, you have to use ComfyUI right now, or reForge if this >>8128808 gets implemented. IIRC the initial cosxl support was added to Forge/reForge but wdv uses different schedule from cosxl.
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>>8128810
Oh, that's probably the issue then lol.
Should've read the model card a bit further. Thanks.
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Wait is WDV fully out, or is this another shitty test?
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>>8128817
>v0 is trained for five epochs or so on about 4.8 million assorted anime images and uses the text encoder from Animagine 3.1 (with permission from the creator). Actual release wdV models will not use this TE, to be quite honest i swapped it in for a test and forgot to remove it so here we are.
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>>8128817
it will never be out my guy
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>>8128822
Atleast they released SOMETHING unlike cascade gang
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>>8128823
the hell are you talking about? jordach already released his own prototype months ago and has been releasing every single epoch of the real bake
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>>8128822
honestly the shitposter yesterday made me consider what happens if nai suddenly gets fucked
I unironically can't imagine using ponyshit. It's literally a monkey paw model for hentai.
and all the local bakers keep making garbage
I honestly thought that in a year local would catch up
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>>8128828
who even funds these local bakers again?
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>>8128824
Link the huggingface then. If it's in some pisscord under lock and key, it can't be called released, that spectrometer dollar store NAI doesn't count either.
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>>8128832
what? the models are just there
https://cdn.spectrometer.art/
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>>8128709
Is that picture from the previous thread?
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>SOMETHING happens for the first time in months
>it's unusable dogshit
NAIv4 when? Proper txt2vid when (think Sora or Luma but NSFW)? Another local lighting-in-a-bottle model when?
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>>8128844
nothing ever happens
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>>8128844
xhe really shouldn't have released this
wdv might not be a shitbake eventually but why give us this peace of shit
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New to comfyui, how do you add the custom node?
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>>8128843
Yes.
>>8126702
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I miss Shutenchad
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>>8128830
jordach gets reddit funds, ponyfucker funded this out of xher pocket, wdv not sure, I think they get compute for free due to troongles employment or something like that
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>>8128856
First they came for the cunny, and I did no speak up...
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>>8128860
Then they came for the wifeposters, and I did no speak up...
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>>8128856
>>8128860
>>8128862
Relax guys just post whatever you like and enjoy yourselves
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Only Cathag and Miqo remained, ecstatic about what happened to /hdg/.
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>>8128789
e-note lora, even at 0.5
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>>8128867
A lot of other anons are having fun, you should stop being so gloomy and post your gens
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>>8128307
nice
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>>8128864
I would but both rulefags and jannies would be so mad about it so in the end I remain nogen because of that, cuz according to themselves MUH rules (that hardly anyone respects these days) are sooo important for them so my attempts to contribute to this thread with some nice and non-/aco/ gens ends up being all to no avail
And it's just one of the million reasons why this thread can get 2100 posts before reaching 300 image limit
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nogensisters we WILL win this time.
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>>8128872
I gen ss
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>>8128874
Absolutely this. Both "allowed" residents cannot acknowledge that we can't even post /h/, because seconds later schizos start crying about "sexualized children", even if gens doesn't have cunny.
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>>8128679
>>8128696
Problem was solved by uninstalling python 3.9, deleting and recreating the venv on 3.10 then reinstalling 3.9.
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>>8128874
>>8128876
>>8128877
I am sorry you feel that way but can't you just post disallowed stuff on /b/ and just come back here to post more acceptable gens? I'm not really seeing the problem here
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>just post disallowed stuff on /b/
>meanwhile anything less than d-cup is considered cunny
i wish both of (You) had adopted a name or trip
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WDV definitely needs a lot more time in the oven.
Either that, or there's a specific way to prompt that we don't know about.
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>>8128881
I don't find hags hot, only cunny, small breasts or flat chested women but even when I post some adult girl with small breasts there's still a high risk of being b& for it or getting a (You) from a schizo calling it pedo gen
And if you actually and unironically went to /b/ for once and see the biggest dogshit of thread they have there, you would never recommend any anon to go there and post, ever again
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>>8128884
Fuck off pedo
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>>8128883
the prompts on discord use actual_nai_tags without_commas
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>>8128884
>or getting a (You) from a schizo calling it pedo gen
now i feel that both remaining OC posters are the schizos that do it and play "oh its not that bad you're overreacting!" card
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>>8128886
>actual_nai_tags
danbooru, fuck
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>>8128882
>>8128884
Well you should still give /b/ a try, can't you just create a thread for your specific kink there? If /hdg/ makes you so unhappy you really should just try looking into other places
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>>8128882
>anything less than d-cup is considered cunny
I've never had this issue.
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i think reversed "nicer /hdg/" script is the way, noone posts /h/, /e/ or /a/ gens anyways and this will filter out most obvious avatarfags
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ok i deleted my post earlier cause i didnt have it turned on, but turning it on didnt do anything either.

reforge anon, does dynamic thresholding not work on dev_upstream?
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>>8128886
>>8128888
That's what I figured.
Then it's just the anatomy messing up, I guess.
The styles work relatively well, but every gen is either a semi-bodyhorror gen or a full-bodyhorror gen.
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>>8128900
Autism finally listened to the prompt and genned her on the monitor as a bonus.
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I'll stick with neta v2 instead of wdv 0.1
Hopefully they can make the full release of wdv better than neta so it atleast has some use as a SFW model.
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>>8128901
What pixelart lora are you using anon?
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>>8128905
It's just base autism with nanako lora. Prompt pixel art with score_8_up.
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why do pedos make this general seethe?
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I don't know if its one of the 20 settings I've adjusted today but I feel like I've lost a ton of seed variation. Anyone else on reforge experiencing this, I can't track down what I did.
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>>8128908
im not sure if i was schizo or not too, but it felt like no matter what i prompted for a pov fellatio, it really liked genning a lamp in the top left. i dont know if its a model issue.
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>>8128907
Why not? It's disgusting. Do what you want in private but don't stick it in my nose.
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>>8128911
they post it in catboxes, nobody is forcing you to click them
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Why does WDV need some custom node to work?
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>>8128913
Does someone complain about catboxed images?
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>>8128918
Miqo anon.
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>>8128909
Hopefully reforge anon hasn't gone to sleep yet and sees this because I am too lazy to create a ticket
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>>8128921
Very nice. Simple but effective.
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>>8128924
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>>8128890
Peak milf performance
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>>8128890
For a few months the bans really were fucking crazy, I wouldn't be surprised if the gen you posted would gen nuked back in April. Something almost definitely changed about this board's moderation.
Now you get banned for only actual loli, at least from what I've seen so far. Despite what the schizo shitposters claim here, this has never been an issue, no one sperged out over ACTUAL loli bans/deletions, maybe except for the siscon retard.
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>>8128924
The first time somebody told me about object permanence, I dunno, I thought they were bullshitting me, so, boom, I mocked them. The thing is... they were right.
And then I started seeing, everywhere I looked, everywhere I looked all these fucking gens, everywhere I looked, having the exact same fucking issue...
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still alive

>>8128908
Best if you could install regular forge and compare outputs for the same seed, or find out which setting you changed. I doubt he or anyone can help you without more information.

The mandatory lamp >>8128909 is common, if your prompt or style makes a dark scene and you don't adjust luminosity with init-noise/diffusion-CG/Vectorscope. So it could be normal behavior.
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>>8128952
not sure if you saw what i asked earlier but does dynamic thresholding not work on dev_upstream of reforge?
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How do I get her to relax her eyebrows? Furrowed eyebrows and raised eyebrows don't seem to work.
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>>8128961
could u share ur prompt ?
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>>8128961
Eyebrows are controlled by facial expression prompts. Try smug, surprised, emotionless, etc.
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>>8128961
Just put angry in nigs.
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>>8128959
oh, no idea
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>>8128967
i mean something might be prompt bleeding or something so i wanted to ask
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Trying out reForge for the first time, getting this while trying to use the NAI extension, no image appears in the UI or the output folder. Skil issue or does reForge/NAI extension need a compatibility update? The extension worked out of the box back when I moved from A1111 to Forge.
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>>8128965
>>8128966
What facial expression would give me / \ eyebrows?

>>8128963
https://files.catbox.moe/xbc72b.png
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>>8128972
could try torogao?
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>>8128972
Try sad, crying, or screaming.
Might help, might not.
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So now that all hope is lost in WdV and resonance, what is our next move, localbros?
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>>8128981
cooking on my 4090
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>>8128981
You shouldn't have hope in the first place, then you can be pleasantly surprised.

Looking back, local model anyway come out in an unusable state by default and need AOM/HLL/AutismMix first.
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please, try my product (@ 3.0 strength or to whatever you want)
https://files.catbox.moe/cn0juh.safetensors
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>>8128997
not your personal army
looks fried as fuck anyway
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>>8128999
sar please redeem
for great vishnu sar please
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>>8128997
interesting, can it do other colors too?
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Noob help request:

Can someone explain me why I am getting such blurry faces? I am using the detailer, a style Lora, and I think the resolution is fine.
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>>8128997
I'll try it when I wake up.
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>>8128997
>>8129002
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>>8129002
it was only trained on those 4, but the data could be automated out basically infinitely
same workflow as before, random images in -> automated filtering to produce darker images (dark red, dark blue, dark green, just dark)
I wanted to see if it'd work so didn't massively diversify. it worked.
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>>8129003
Post a catbox.
>>8129000
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>>8129003
idk, are you using too many loras frying stuff? even so, adetailer should remediate that. Try increasing its denoising (something to 0.35-0.45), changing samplers to, lets say, euler a, dpm++2s a
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>>8128997
But what does the original image with no lora look like?
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>>8128997
What is this, a lora for ants?
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>>8129009
I am using only one Lora ("fishine")
I am using Euler A too.

When you say "change the denoising", I am not sure to what control you mean. This is what I can see.
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>>8129012
Some meme garbage for those who can't open photoshop or use im2img I guess. Some localoid brainrot shit
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>>8129013
open the inpainting tab, it should be there
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>>8129013
>>8129016
and meant changing the adetailer's sampler, but if you're using euler A on the base gen then its fine too.
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>>8129003
It's not just the face, everything's melting. Without catbox I can only guess, could be a shitty style lora.
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>>8129018
it's nai
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>>8128890
Yeah?? Now post her without a pronounced bottom lip and make her blushing and embarrassed instead of self-confident, then we'll talk!!
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>>8129018
its fishine. Should be fine.
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>>8129022
>now make her into a child
There's your problem
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>>8129018
Dont listen to >>8129020. It's the one who posted it.

>>8129017
>>8129016
I am using "fishine". The detailer inpainting noise is at 0.4
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>>8129024
But I don't have a problem!
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>>8129014
>you should spend 10 seconds in image2image when you can spend 1second in text2image
What kind of mental retardation is this?
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>>8129027
hmm very weird, try changing the cfg on adetailer
Also try posting the image (as .png) here so others can see the entire thing https://catbox.moe/
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>>8129030
It's wrong anyway. The color offset affects your scene, unlike slapping a filter on it in post. Like the red one will bias your gens towards a sunset, red hair or demon/oni girls.
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>>8129030
im just in awe with localtard brainrot
still waiting for the 1girl standing lora, gotta strengthen the concept bro
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>>8129022
Or actually maybe don't, those fucking lines and shadow transitions all over her body are so fucking ugly the actual content doesn't really matter anyway...
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>>8129034
I haven't tried the new one but the old one doesn't do any of that stuff. It literally just works as a light filter.
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>>8129030
>you should use a lora that likely modifies composition and style in one way or another, just to get a color filter so you can mass produce tinted slop by the dozen
How about just genning one good image and then running a filter in post?
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>>8129030
It's hilariously useless, man. How often do you need a scene like this? How does this lora affect composition and other color biases? It's just tinkering for the sake of tinkering.
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>>8128997
color themes work just fine for me without any loras, aside from red but there are workarounds for that
dunno why your lora would affect her eye color, that doesn't seem right
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>>8129039
Weird. Then I agree, what is the point. I edit every gen anyways before posting.
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>>8129000
Get a shorter girl or stand on top of something.
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>>8129042
>How often do you need a scene like this?
How often do you need dark scenes? Considering it's impossible to do on pony I'm not surprised you've forgotten how important dark scenes actually are.
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>>8129049
just use vectorscope
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>>8129049
>it's impossible to do on pony
thanks for making me laugh
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>>8129051
this, pony dark scenes are breathtaking, anyone who says otherwise is a nai shill
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>>8129051
Just once I'd like to have an honest conversation with someone on /hdg/. Just a single time without low quality bait like this whenever their small mind runs out of ideas.
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>>8129022
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>>8129054
>>>/e/2868750
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>>8129054
You should start by being honest then. It's not impossible, just difficult. Very little is actually impossible with AI.
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>>8129059
>Very little is actually impossible with AI.
Prompt a hentai sex scene on stable diffusion 1.4. Any amount of loras, tricks and controlnets is allowed.
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>>8129052
That schnee is too safe even for /e/
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>>8129060
>"AI" is just stable diffusion 1.4
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>>8129062
But models don't matter, tools do. Just train a lora and use conrolnet.
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>>8129037
Interesting. The art style kinda does that already https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/6529450 but it's mixing with pony's high score shading. Could probably avoid that if I tried, but I don't mind it too much.
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>>8129036
this, but unironically
concept is fine, but proportions can be wonky, especially when full body
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>>8129056
That's right I'd be embarrassed too. How do you live to 30 and STILL not have any tits?? Even Kuro has some!
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>>8129059
>just inpaint bro
If this is how pedantic you're going to be about it then it's no wonder you're so dishonest. By this logic we shouldn't train loras at all because you can always just inpaint/controlnet/img2img and wrangle your way to victory since very little is impossible. Meanwhile NAI had to unfuck SDXL just go get darker darks on v3.
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>Just once I'd like to have an honest conversation with someone on /hdg/
>proceeds to be completely disingenuous
kek
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>>8129070
I accept your concession. Your arguments are as empty as your head unfortunately.
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>>8129032
Is it maybe a little better with this config?
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>>8129061
yup i add this one too then.
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>>8129065
Looks nothing like that style bro, typical autismmix shading. No artist draws so many ugly and completely random lines all over the body to indicate "shading". It's (ai-generated:1.5) look 101.
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>>8129077
Skill issue. Just needs to train a better lora.
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>>8129072
I mean, seems like it
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>>8128961
Eddy pov :)
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>>8129072
Try a CFG value closer to 5-7. For the base gen I mean, the whole image is messy.
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>>8129076
AI anime screencaps always look like shit for some reason.
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>>8129008
You don't seriously think those stretched ass pixels look good, right? It looks like what happens when you resize an image in ms paint.
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>>8129087
I really don't care anon.
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>>8129087
It's LITERALLY pixel art bro
just like pony gens are LITERALLY anime
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>>8129086
Why though? The face could use some adetailer but that's about it. anime screencaps are one of the few styles that pony can do fairly faithfully
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>>8128745
>>8128759
h-uh. i'd have thought it would do ok, but desu i didn't test nsfw and anatomy in general is still fairly broken in this one. it's better in newer checkpoints which don't use the animagine TE

>>8128848
people were asking for it so i dumped it out for feedback purposes


@ReForge anon - the actual final released wdV will use the tan schedule with scaling=1.6, not the XLTC one - XLTC is a hack to make the 1.6 scaling schedule work with a model trained at 1.0 scaling. so implementing XLTC is kind of a waste of time since it'll pretty much only be good for this one test model
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He's really ornery this morning, huh.
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>>8129093
Why do you allow users in your discord call you she/her? Ban the motherfuckers, don't you have any balls left? They are literally making fun of you all the time and you just eat it.
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>>8129083
You are right. This seems much better. I thought that CFG should always be between 7 and 12. Maybe I do not understand well what this setting do...
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>>8128998
Horrible teeth.
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>>8129098
Agree
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>>8129097
It depends on your base model, pony is overtrained so it needs a much lower one than most. it's the same thing if you stack many loras.
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Imagine if there was an actual report option for something being /e/ and not /h/. Half of you motherfuckers would burn.
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>>8129110
There is, it's called off-topic. The issue is you can't just use it for all the images you don't personally like.
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>>8129110
tell me you're a newfag without telling me you're a newfag
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>>8129112
If you've been around you'd know there's certain report options that jannies never bother looking into, that's one of them.
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>>8129115
Patently false.
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>>8129116
Oh shut the fuck up, there's a reason these threads have countless /e/ shit that never gets deleted.
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>>8129112
It doesn't work despite the posts being literally off-topic.
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>>8129117
Takes two seconds to check the archives and see that is untrue but I see you are hell bent on living in your little personal victim fantasy land so keep on keepin' on kiddo.
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>>8129116
literally rule-breaking posts this thread is flooded with, retard
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>>8129118
>>8129120
>43:05
>44:06
Put a little more effort into it other than just typing like Yoda.
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>>8129119
>j-j-just check the archives trust me
What a shit excuse, you can literally look at all the undeleted /e/ images on this thread for proof. Just because jannies do their job once in a blue moon it's not gonna mean shit.
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>>8129110
If the threads were going super fast due to /e/ I would agree, but we're barely getting any gens.
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all me
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>>8128961
Did you manage? As a last resort you can roughly redraw them yourself then inpaint to clean up.
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>>8129124
That's always been how it works on any board though. Jannies only take action on what is reported. If you aren't being insufferable, most people won't report you. It's why loli was never really removed here because people used to be pretty chill. Then we started getting this influx of loli posters that couldn't help but shitpost alongside ever image they uploaded so people got tired of them and took it upon themselves to assist in getting them removed. It works that way not just on /h/ but on every single board. People act like jannies are omnipotently watching every single thread which has never been true.
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>>8129130
I do report /e/ posts though, and they rarely get deleted. These threads in particular seem less monitored than other threads which do get deletions, which is weird because you'd think the fastest threads on /h/ would get priority.
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>>8129130
This whole post is so full of bullshit from start to finish I even can't
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>>8129133
Appreciate the gens but don't spend too much effort earnestly responding to shitposters
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>>8129133
>abysmal color range, full of jpeg artifacts
good enough for ponytards
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>>8129133
hi mjm anon, haven't seen you in a long time
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these threads feel more like /ic/ than /ic/.
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Something between 5a53f0364b301671e783c32535ae048391b48b4b and aac1888800fd72cf8a03e3b590a00b3ebc4fc47a massively changes the way loras work on reforge. Is that intended?
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i'm gonna post nai in a little bit but right now i'm working
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>>8129142
Finally some good gens.
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>>8129141
hmm... yes, you're on to something, i noticed lora block weight stopped working
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>>8129145
It still works but you need to do some ultra wank approach where you pop it open under scripts, not the regular flyout.
Also it breaks inpainting?
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>>8128745
>wdv
?
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>>8128972
Maybe try
>aroused, moaning
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>>8129093
what do you think of this >>8126775
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>>8128789
https://civitai.com/models/536542/anzhcs-breasts-segmentation-or-yolov8-or-adetailer-model

use this, its works wonders for making better breasts without having to upscale
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>>8129152
>5. To not fuck up CLIP, you should abandon commas and use "actual_tags" instead.
Someone try "eyepatch_bikini" on WD, or "pencil_skirt, office". Still I doubt it's that easy, and it might fuck up natural language prompts.

Like on pony I can prompt "wall-mounted dildo", even though it's not a tag anywhere. Sure it leaks into "head-mounted display" but at least it works and I can neg display to fix it.
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>>8129155
This is an adetailer detection model for tits? I guess if you're too lazy to draw the inpaint mask yourself...
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tails are hard
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The amount of software i learned just to coom is kinda embarrassing
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>>8128864
>>8128872
>>8128881

wake up to see my stuff being reposted, very cool and based
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>samefagging this hard
man
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>>8129165
https://files.catbox.moe/nliaim.png

false
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>>8129164
I'd be disappointed if my gens were reposted just for the sake of low-effort trolling tbqh.
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I think I have a theory as to why my vpred finetune fails to produce good colors. ZTSNR paper mentions that
>After rescaling the schedule to have zero terminal SNR, at t = T ..., the model is not performing the denoising task since the input does not contain any signal. Rather it is repurposed to predict the mean of the data distribution conditioned on the prompt.
>At t = T, the model learns to predict the same exact L2 mean of all the data samples regardless of the noise input. In the text-conditional case, the model will predict the L2 mean conditioned on the prompt but invariant to the noise input.
>Therefore, the first sample step at t = T ideally yields the same exact prediction regardless of noise input. The variation begins on the second sample step.
Assuming the timesteps are selected uniformly (which they are), during training on 1,101 images with 60 epochs we have a total of 66,060 times a particular timestep is being selected, which means the last timestep is being selected roughly 66,060/1,000=66 times. It's very possible it just doesn't recieve enough training on that timestep, which leads to fucked colors and this instead of blacks. It's very possible that this timestep doesn't even see the pure black images I put in the dataset. I think it should be really beneficial to try to increase that number to match the number of images at the very least, considering the fact I'm dealing with such a small dataset.
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>>8129172
>encouraging other anons to post images
>low-effort trolling
what
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>>8129175
Yeah exactly my point...
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>>8129172
im glad some pedoschizo made a scapegoat out of me so noone reposts my shit
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>>8129174
You should test something on a black background, not just the background itself. You might get perfect black but fuck up the color range.
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>>8129174
Just go to discord and ask neggles-sama for advice, why figure out something that is already figured out by others.
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>>8129179
>so noone reposts my shit
Maybe there's a different reason. For example maybe it's just awful...
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>>8129186
no its just /h/ content and current /hdg/ is allergic to it
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>>8129187
catbox?
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>>8129180
Reliable and pure black (and white) is what's the most important, anon, since the problem with epsilon prediction is that it does not allow predicting the overall lightness level based on the prompt. You can already achieve perfect "black background" with noise offset.
>>8129183
That's what you get for trying to raise the /hdg/'s abysmal level of education? I mean, I do this because it's an interesting thing to figure out.
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i have a dream that some day all image posts on /hdg/ will be miqo goddess and cathag oneeshota, and none of this disgusting anime pedo shit
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>>8129191
This.
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>>8129191
>pedo shit
i mean isn't oneeshota also pedo stuff?
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>>8129190
Do you have a rentry or something that lists the background information necessary to understand this? I'm kinda lost
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>>8129189
there is no image attached to this post
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>>8129202
ah dangit, he was saying he had /h/ content so i wanted to see it. my bad
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>>8129199
no because boys turn into men the moment they touch pussy.
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>>8129201
Start with my MinSNR explanation
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First they came for the pedos, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a pedo.
Then they came for the /aco/ fags, and I did not speak out—
Because I was no /aco/ fag.
Then they came for the /e/ posters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not posting /e/.
Then /hdg/ was finally good again, because there were no rule breakers left.
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Morning status?
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>>8129206
what about yurifags.
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>>8129208
same meltie different day, you know how it goes
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>>8129208
Its a schoolgirl. Literal child. Please take it out of here and post on /b/, thanks.
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>>8129208
This gen is so vanilla there's no way you're not a woman.
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>>8129204
>>8128758
irc the problem with nai is you couldn't gen two person sex stuff together with just prompting on the base model without loras,
but ive been doing some experimental fine tuning on 1.5
and it seems that with a fine tune i am able to get a model that replicates sex stuff with two character maintaining the art style,
granted it's not high quality images and they are full of errors but this is all being done on a consumer gpu with a 200k sized dataset, as proof of concept I feel it shows that maybe with the right approach ,enough a large enough dataset and right hardware this could have been done in 1.5.

it has made me a bit concerned on whether the improvements we see from new architectures are actually from the different architectures and not just because of the latest auto taggers/caption models and newest training scripts optimizers and parameters simply producing better results. If this is the case that would mean all the large amounts of resources needed to train new models might be pointless.
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>>8129208
>panties over panthose
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>>8129214
why did you reply to >>8129204
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>>8129215
She's retarded, leave her alone
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>>8129213
Why yes I love vanilla even for /e/ stuff
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>>8129208
>>>/b/
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>>8129216
missclick
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>>8129191
This.
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>>8129206
from what I've seen, loli doesn't get deleted so long as it's oppai loli.
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>>8129215
It worked for superman
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>>8129224
from what I've seen, shota doesn't get deleted so long as it's shota
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>>8129225
What else would it be? I did get banned for shota+milf but that was months ago.
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>>8129228
Do people reply to the wrong post on purpose around here?
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>>8129228
sometimes
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>>8129241
wtf miqoanon is based now???
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Guess that's the downside of having such an easy to gen character. I'm surprised it took this long.
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>>8129241
Kinda boring when it's not subtle anymore:(
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>>8129241
Bro change the filename and resolution. Also this is way too obvious so not that funny.
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>>8129243
>I'm surprised it took this long.
None of the regulars shitpost though so falseflagging as them is kind of dumb in theory anyway as it's super obvious it isn't them
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>>8129246
Cathag faggot is one of the most cancerous shitposters here
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does neggles have any female (female) cheerleaders? part of what made it fun when jordach visited this place was that he always had b-sama cheering him on...
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>>8129247
Why? He catboxes anything rule breaking and only posts like 1-2 images a thread if that.
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>>8129251
there are a bunch of them, but most have a surprise for them a think
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>>8129251
This season won't be as sitcom like as the cascade one
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>>8129252
He nogen shitposts a lot.
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>>8129253
that's why i specified female (female)
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>>8129256
How do you know it's him and not me?
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>>8129256
Ah okay, headcanon things.
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>>8129252
He started the whole shota is fine but loli is pedo thing, funny guy if you ask me, don't know why people dislike him so much?..
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>>8129260
He doesn't even deny it though afaik.
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>>8129241
Extremely based and spot-on. Finally you've stopped being humble with pedophiles and shown your true self.
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>>8129264
Wait is he the guy who said he "separates" shitposting from posting "gens"?
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>>8129224
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Funny how one redditor janny can mindbreak an entire general for good even after he was removed.
Malicious bullshit "loli" bans are no longer a thing, truly, but the shitposting it produced will be haunting hdg for a long time.
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hello mods ban this user please >>8129270
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>>8129279
>Malicious bullshit "loli" bans are no longer a thing
Bans may not be a thing but the warnings are issued and the posts are getting deleted.
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>>8129279
Shitposting is against the rules. People are fed of pedophilia being posted in /hdg/ and wanna finally end it once and for all.
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Le rules.... get le... enforced?
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>>8129282
Deletions as well. Stuff they deleted and banned for was truly absurd few months ago.
Show me the last truly absurd deleted "loli" post.
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welcome to /hdg/, here you can enjoy the lovely (you)s youll receive from a wide catalogue of our dear schizos, currently, we have:
>anti-nai smudge-obsessed schizo
>blind anti-pedo schizo
>"i recognize that bulge!" anti-futa schizo
>anti-sepialocal schizo
>anti-pseudoavatarfag schizo
and many more! feel free to accept or adopt and mimic the behaviour of one of our schizos, you can even mimic them all, its all free anyway! dont forget to remain nogen while you mimic any schizo behaviour!
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>>8129293
they're all the same person
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>>8129286
https://archived.moe/h/thread/8125921/#8127072
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>>8129293
Honestly none of these are as numerous and aggressive as the people shitting on everyone who dares use pony, especially since they're genuine and not just having a laugh.
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>>8129293
We also have object permanence schizo, 2007 anime schizo, refiner schizo and a bunch more
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>>8129279
>Malicious bullshit "loli" bans are no longer a thing
when exactly did that happen?
because I got a vacation just a bit over a month ago for a girl with small breasts that had fucking pubes
https://files.catbox.moe/m8xr9r.png
and full res for reference https://files.catbox.moe/1y7pgv.png
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>>8129293
You should have added "nothing ever happens" schizo >>8129298
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>>8129299
it has never happened, that anon either doesn't know what he's talking about or wants to bait people into posting stuff that he will then report
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>>8129299
>small breasts
That's practically a child. Off to /b/ you go
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>>8129299
hebes have pubes though and still aren't allowed here based off loli rules so im not sure why you are surprised
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>>8129298
>2007 anime schizo
I sure hope luckypedoposter will be janned indefinitely and fuck off to trooncord already. Truly the worst thing that happened to /hdg/.
>>8129299
And you too.
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>>8129299
I'd say around 2 weeks ago.
>>8129296
That's clearly a loli though. Not explicit but a loli.
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>>8129306
loli = prepubescent though
>>8129308
>That's clearly a loli though
Wrong.
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>>8129311
its an american site now and has been for years, loli is anything under the age of 18
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>>8129311
>Wrong.
Sar, loli is not the same thing as a toddler.
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Was loli always banned on /h/? I figured it'd be like 90% of posts here before I came here to check if a thread like this existed
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Waiut WHO ALLOWED SPERM ON THIS BOARD??? IT'S PRACTICALLY A CHILDD
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>>8129312
Okay then don't bullshit about some moderation change, thanks!
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>>8129305
>>8129307
ah, thats the spirit!!! you show us how to mimic the schizoing the right way!
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>>8129312
Against the rules you mean. Doesn't change the definition of loli.
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>>8129319
You can reach the jannies via IRC if you want to argue with them about the definition of loli.
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>Everything that looks younger than the characters i like to gen is loli
convenient
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>>8129312
which is why everybody who posts a pokegirl or an evangelion girl gets banned, right?
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>>8129312
It has always been american website, it's just american morals weren't so thoroughly retarded in 00s.
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>>8129313
Never said that because JS aren't toddlers but they are loli.
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>>8129308
This is clearly not a loli though.
(You)
(You)
(You)
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english or spanish?

gay who posts a gen
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>>8129324
>>8129324
>loli proportions
>flat chest
show me what you consider to be a loli but not a toddler then.
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>>8129315
Yes, but enforcement was somewhat lax and still is in other threads. This thread just cranked up the self-policing because otherwise you get constant "1girl, child, black micro" bikini gens followed by a flood of "uooouh" and "based"
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>>8129306
there's an asuka thread, a nagatoro thread, there's a fucking prillya thread, not to mention the untold number of megumin threads, etc. on /h/. Not to mention that miku has always been fair game and, while you can be snarky and call her a 33 year old hag(since she was introduced in 2007), she's still modeled after a 16 year old.
not to mention that, physically, there really isn't much difference between a fully developed 15-16 year old girl and an 18 year old. And that adults with flat chests do, in fact, exist. Trying to oust 'hebe' is just fucking dumb.
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>>8129329
the only thing this general has cranked up is amount of shitposting and the text to image ratio
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>loli

>Sexually explicit or sexually suggestive artwork of girls who appear to be preadolescent, regardless of canonical age (the "millennia-old unaging vampiress that looks like a grade-schooler" trope, for example).

>Loli is applicable to ratings Explicit, Questionable, and Sensitive. Completely work-safe, non-sexual (ie, rating:general) artwork of young girls should not be tagged as loli, use child or petite instead. If you are unsure whether a post fits, ask in the loli/shota check thread.

>This is a censored tag, which requires a Gold+ Account to view.
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>>8129329
The constant samefagging /e/ loli gens were getting quite a bit stale, true.
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>>8129093
about how long does an epoch take at ideal settings (full dataset)? i'm curious how well actual enterprise hardware does in training compared to consumer.
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Lolipedos need to hang themselves already. Their crap already poisoned datasets. We would already have a good working model if we removed that shit.
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>>8129328
I don't want to scroll through some gelbooru stuff I'm not interested in. Hopefully you can distinguish a 2-year-old from a 10-year-old? That would be toddler and loli.
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>>8129335
This.
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>>8129336
>10-year-old?
So we agree then that >>8127072 is a loli?
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I can't wait for the schizo to hook up wd-1.4 tagger to a bot that scans all of /h/ for canonically underage characters and auto reports them ...
Wait, he can't even code, lmao.
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>>8129340
incredibly based
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>>8129339
Yes of course?
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>>8129341
why would you need a bot to scan a general for images when no one posts images?
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>>8129341
>imagine having this much of a persecution fetish
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>>8129344
All of /h/, not just /hdg/.
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>>8129343
Huh, I thought you were one of >>8129326 >>8129311
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>>8129349
Why would you think that, I obviously posted in defense of this guy >>8129299 and against the retardation that it's somehow a loli. Hopefully you can spot the difference between the pic you linked and that one.
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>>8129342
based on what
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>>8129349
Oh and 9311 is me, how am I contradicting myself exactly?
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just stfu you pedos and start posting actually attractive females like Miqo
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>>8129329
I see, thanks
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1girl, standing, huge breasts
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>>8129354
>how am I contradicting myself exactly?
>>8129343
>Yes of course?


>>8129308
You probably didn't notice that I replied to 2 different posts here
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>>8129359
Here you go sir.
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>>8129362
Two different images, at this point it's clear you aren't arguing in good faith (should have been obvious from the beginning).
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Aaaaaaaahhhhh I have to prompt A cups and make her taller than 5 feet Ahhhhh I'm literally dying AHHHHHHH
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>>8129206
>Because I was not posting /e/.
you're not posting anything
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>I was replying to a bait
It's so over.
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>>8129365
Personally I love tall girls with a cups, but every time I post them this general goes into uohhh meltie and then jannies come because of all the loud noises so go figure.
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>>8129369
correct, I will never post images here
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>>8129363
Now that's the good shit. Need more huge breast gens. Should be the only acceptable tags to be posted anywhere
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>>8129365
this, but unironically.
fun size is best size.
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>>8129365
janny deletes anything reported as loli without checking if it actually is anyway
so unless you're posting ultra milkers, you get canned
Feel like lately they've been overzealous with deleting posts
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>>8129377
they literally aren't for the last few weeks retard
barely any deletions happening last few threads
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>342 replies, 43 images
le sigh
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>>8129380
yeah normally jannies would nuke the thread entirely if the post to image ratio got to 5:1 yet we're regularly hitting 2k shitposts now with no intervention
you can post what you want but people would rather just play victim
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>>8129381
>nooooo I hate text posts in a text thread!!!!
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>>8129381
You're part of the problem
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>>8129383
Post a normal girl with a cups right now
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>>8129383
Which was the point of >>8129279
post
Damage is already done
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>>8129392
>a normal girl
So an adult?
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>>8129395
With A cups, do it, watch what happens
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>>8129395
Adults have breasts, dear
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>>8129398
Nothing's gonna happen.
Rogue australian janny got booted. You have my word.
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>>8129398
This >>8128890 has been up for over 8 hours. Are you trying to make a point or something?
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>>8129404
thank mrs skeltal
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>>8129403
that's a skeleton bro
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>>8129407
It's a girl with a cups. Those don't get removed, that anon is just being disingenuous for shitposting sake.
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>>8129404
Hebekings, we are so back.
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>>8129409
>hagraven
>girl
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>>8129411
And so the goal posts start to move almost immediately. So surprising.
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>>8129412
it's a shitposter, probably anti-loli schizo. it's quite obvious that you won't get your pic deleted just for small breasts, at least now.
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Herro :3
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>>8129424
selamat pagi
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>>8129380
*barely any images in the last few threads
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>>8129428
I don't speak indian sorry :3
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>>8129431
Yuko would be disappointed
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>>8129431
It's cuntonese
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>>8129243
It's literally a repost of a previously posted image. The nogen didn't even try.
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I just started experimenting with SD and holy shit, why is CivitAI so aggressively unoptimized? I can't open more than a couple tabs at once without my computer revving up like I'm running a generation. I don't think I've ever used another website that's so resource hungry
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>>8129474
Jeet coding most likely. It's pretty damn insane they have not taken any steps to fix it.
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>>8129474
they made videos autoplay by default...
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>>8129476
I did some searching and found a reddit thread about it, it seems like they have been aware of the issue for months and either have no idea what the fuck the problem is and how to fix it, or they're just bullshitting and are running crypto miners at the user expense or some shit
>>8129482
Autoplay can be disabled at least, but I'm pretty sure the issue is that half the fucking interface is animated and wants to use media decoder
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>>8129474
Search is fucked too
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>>8129490
That too, it seems to try to update every fucking character you enter instead of waiting for you to stop typing
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I know it would be a lot to ask, and they would do it for free, but there really should be some level of QA on Civitai because holy shit some loras are just complete and absolute trash on their and even offering them as a download is insulting.
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>>8129492
Skill issue.
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>>8129492
Fried kuroooh...
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>>8129492
based
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>>8129492
Remove score_8 and try again. Score 8 has a very heavy effect on generations.
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>>8129493
You learn to filter certain uploaders pretty quick. A week or so ago that theantlers guy popped up and has been dumping 6-7 absolute slop loras every day
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>>8129489
off camera, dozens of men lined up for their turn
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>>8129493
QA on something the public uploads themselves?What?
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The extent of sex I'm willing to go with with animagine. Please yell if it's too hardcore, I can always tone it down.
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I miss based ShutenGOD
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>>8129503
Style is too /h/, please add black lipstick and make her (curvy:1.4) at least.
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>>8129503
Torso too tall.
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>>8129404
>prompt fern
>get fern
yeah well thanks clip
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>>8129503
That's animagine?
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>>8129509
its NAI
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>>8129508
Yeah I always leave it in because it's hilarious.
>>8129509
Trifusion, Fern above is Ponymagine (hint: it's all the same thing really, just some slight style change, but they all suck at sex and nsfw the same).
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>>8129514
The style's nice at least. Although the scanlines on the hair are a bit weird. Or I'm hallucinating.
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>>8129514
you might as well use base animagine at that point. why use a mix that has neither the prompt comprehension of pony nor the more anime style of animagine?
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>>8129516
I add scanlines in post. Sorry if it bothers you, I don't like how gens look raw so I need some noise added to stop my eyes from bleeding.
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>>8129519
No, it's actually pretty nice, especially on the first gen. On t32 it looked like artifacting a bit to me but still nothing really bad
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>>8129518
Ponymagine has better anatomy (when not 1girl standing fully clothed) compared to animagine, I XY'd. Trifusion I use because I like it's base style more in some cases.
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>>8129519
Do you have a texture you overlay on your gen or is there a generator for it in ps?
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>>8129527
I use PS. Some monochrome grain, some (way less) colored grain, then texturizer from filter gallery.
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Animagine sure is pretty. Shame about everything else
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No idea why, but the editing captions of selected image in the dataset tag editor doesn't display any tags even though the tag editor detects them.
Did this happen to anyone?
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>>8128808
If implementation is on Comfy maybe I can port it, do you have more info about it?

>>8128971
I probably updated something in the post processor from A1111 upstream that broke this. Does it works fine on A1111 latest dev commit? Though it seems that class has index, so maybe the nai script is sending only the image

class PostprocessImageArgs:
def __init__(self, image, index):
self.image = image
self.index = index

>>8128896
Would have to check, does it work fine on main?

>>8128922
I was in fact, sleeping IoI. There wasn't a change in seed that I know recently. Just the new samplers use their own cfg denoiser logic (as from comfy), but they don't collide with the A1111 ones.

>>8129141
Is this main or dev_upstream?

>>8129141
That's a big gap, I have updated a lot related to lora weights work I think, since applied some comfy upstream changes (even on main)

Seeds are pretty different vs OG Forge probably.

>>8129145
Will try with the extension if it's broken.

>>8129147
In-painting is broken with that extension? Tested normal inpainting and it works as it should (I think)

Now back to my IRL work but gonna check some things mentioned.
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>>8129541
>Does it works fine on A1111 latest dev commit?
Can't tell sadly, I'm on Forge and it works fine there (on the last non-meme commit from months ago, anyway).
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>>8129280
???

just because you dont like the image? lmao
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>>8129543
I can't test atm because I don't have a NAI sub now, but gonna see how the extensions sens the image to the post processor in the meanwhile.
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>>8129541
>If implementation is on Comfy maybe I can port it, do you have more info about it?
Regular vpred+ztsnr is enabled through ModelSamplingDiscrete node, and for wdv stuff see here >>8129093 and https://huggingface.co/waifu-diffusion/wdv-tests
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>>8129543
>>8129546
Okay that change was a my bad on my part, Illya added it for gradio 4, but it isn't needed on reForge. Pushed a fix and it should work fine now.

>>8129549
Hmm this seems a bit complex, at least reading it without too much detail IoI

ModelSamplingDiscrete is on the forge code though, so I guess it can be applied somehow (on ldm_patched.modules.model_base, model_sampling and sd.py)
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>>8129546
Thank you, that extension is extremely important as I hate using the NAI website, but I don't want to be stuck on a never-updating version of Forge either.
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>>8129556
DW I can understand, but it should be fixed on latest commit.
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>>8129555
>Hmm this seems a bit complex
I honestly don't know how neither Forge nor A1111 work at all but on Comfy it's just applied like this. A1111 also has some zero terminal snr beta patching iirc, but as I said before, I don't know how it works.
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how do I get the wdV test model to work anons
this is what I'm getting, even after replacing the CLIP with a better one
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>>8129541
>Is this main or dev_upstream?
It's dev and not just a seed change. I'll just inch forward commit by commit until i can pinpoint it.
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I miss Miqo anon
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>>8129563
Ah I see it now, A1111/Forge takes the discrete sampling on sd_models.py (def rescale_zero_terminal_snr_abar(alphas_cumprod):) while Comfy uses it on ldm_patched.modules.model_sampling. Maybe is there a way to make it take o take from model_sampling instead of sd_models. Probably it would work only on forge/comfy samplers though.

>>8129567
Sure, that would help a lot anon
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>>8129565
are you using dpmpp_2s_ancestral for the sampler and simple for the scheduler? it doesn't work properly otherwise
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>>8129565
you dont. that's about what it can do as far as lewdity goes currently. wait for the next epoch, just like cascade
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>>8129576
not really the next epoch because this was just a test prototype. wait for whenever they finally feel like they want to start baking the real thing
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>>8129571
>Probably it would work only on forge/comfy samplers though.
Yeah that's kinda ass. When I tried it on A1111 through config files, to enable vpred on sdxl it was enough to change scaling_config.target here https://github.com/Stability-AI/generative-models/blob/863665548f95ff827273948766a3f732ab01bc49/configs/inference/sd_xl_base.yaml#L13 from sgm.modules.diffusionmodules.denoiser_scaling.EpsScaling to sgm.modules.diffusionmodules.denoiser_scaling.VScaling but it didn't work on anything besides DDIM and UniPC samplers so..
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>>8129574
the sampler was the issue
thanks anon

>>8129576
>>8129578
I see
wonder what will come out of the oven 1st
Reso or wdV
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>>8129555
>>8129558
That commit fixed the NAI extension but now I get this on local, the situation's basically reversed. If it's any help, there's also this at the end:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "A:\stable-diffusion-webui-reForge\modules\call_queue.py", line 74, in f
res = list(func(*args, **kwargs))
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
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>>8129585
For reference, it DOES gen the image and I can see its preview as it's generating but it doesn't actually display the final pic or save it.
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>>8129578
it wasn't even supposed to be released at all
neggles just did a little trolling, probably was drunk or something
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>>8129583
>reso or wdv
pony
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>>8129590
neggles had been saying recently that xe wanted to release some prototype so people would shut up about it. the intention seemed to be to release one of the prototypes where the TE is actually trained but since they released the one with the animagine TE i guess those didn't work too well
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>>8129544
No, he's right, I'm a sinner. Take me away, janny.
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>>8129593
I wonder if the TE was actually trained but the trained TE was animagine's TE
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>ai learns from maybe 20 images that these shoes have Xs on the soles
>still can't generate the leotard correctly with 400 examples
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>>8129583
resonance will finish baking within 2 months at the latest
i doubt the wdV team will produce anything during that time desu, especially considering that they've been promising their model since april
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>>8129597
what is wrong with your faaaaaace
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>>8129597
it's easier to learn new concepts/details than it is to overwrite how it understands old ones.
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>>8129599
>resonance will finish baking
lmao
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>>8129604
Trust the plan, tree is the real puppet master.
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>>8129604
yes, and the 2 month estimate is supposing that they continue being dumb and baking it on the dual 4090
you can literally go to their discord and calculate it from their it/s
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>>8129599
resonance absolutely will not finish anytime soon given how long it's taking just for the 1b. the 3.6b will take even longer. and i have a feeling this '1b for training the TE' is going to turn out being a complete disaster once slapped on the 3.6
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>>8129608
1b will finish in 20 days lol
but i'm also a little worried about how the 1b TE will work on the 3.6b
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>>8129606
and the model will finally be good just wait 2 months
trust the knot bro
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>>8129612
i never said i expected it to be good
if i had to put money on a betting site i'd give it a good 10% chance that most people here will end up considering the 3.6b model better than pony
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>>8129600
terminal lack of adetailer
>>8129603
i don't think that high heels are a unique concept for pony
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>>8129613
>it a good 10% chance that most people here will end up considering the 3.6b model better than pony
AHHAHA
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>>8129616
too high? that seems pretty fair to me if you played with the 3.6b prototype before desu
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>>8129610
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>>8129617
It has the look but it's gonna be braindead without NL captions. Would make for a better refiner than Animagine, if not for being Cascade.
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>>8129616
It could end up better aesthetically. I doubt it will be as good with reverse gangbang flashbang cum congress but it might at least not look as fucking acoshit and have good artist and character knowledge out of the box.
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>>8129617
some people here unironically consider pony better than nai
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>>8129585
Yes it was another issue. Now I pushed the fix for that. Let me know how it goes.
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>>8129622
nah, you just fall for bait too easily anon
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>>8129621
>It could end up better aesthetically
i thought this was already achieved through animagine and arti
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>>8129625
animagine/arti are straight up undercooked
I mean I personally don't need crazy sex scenes. if it ends up better than animagine/arti at pov and somewhat simple from side scenes and would choke at group sex and crazy poses - I wouldn't mind. It'd be much better than the current acoslop/paypig dichotomy.
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>>8129623
Perfect, now both NAI and local work. Much appreciated, I can finally ditch forge now.
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>>8129619
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Reforge anon, just did a pull on Commit 4801ef2 and it looks like Cfg ++ is broken. Using euler a baseline + SGM uniform works fine.
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>>8129540
Still no idea why this is happening. No editable tags when I select an image.
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>>8129625
Animagine draws ugly pussy/penis/nipple. Also despite having over 16K artists the median is only 20 images, so most of them are very weak.
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>>8129634
It's not so bad, have seen worse pony genitals
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>>8129634
>16K artists the median is only 20 images
Some artists are weak but not because they were trained on only 20 images
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>>8129404
As you can see about that whole "jannies got better" situation by the way. It's a 3days too, not a warning. I'll skip posting to this board from now on.
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>>8129645
Ãœbel and kuro are still there tho
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>>8129645
i think you might just be retarded
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>>8129646
Good for Ubel and Kuro, not good enough for me. I'm going to go by my favorite name: eternal nogen.
>>8129649
No I don't think so, but "thanks" for showing support for the idiocy.
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I hate how heart sign connect all the fingers
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>>8129651
That fern was straddling the line a little too hard
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>>8129651
Swap to treechan, it's the only way
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>>8129645
as i said, the guy who claimed that the jannies got better was just baiting people into posting images he could then report.
it's a shame but you should just accept that both the moderation and some schizos want this place to die
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Here is a /hdg/ top tip for more detailed backgrounds with pony:

First, get the negpip extension from github.
Then in your positive prompt, type (simple background:-1.4) and add a few descriptions to what objects should be in the background.

The background in this image is not inpainted - however I had to use inpaint a little on the woman and male.

Catbox too:
https://files.catbox.moe/kwqbtb.png
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>>8129635
>>8129633
based
could you box one of those?
proportions are looking much better than what i usually get
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>>8129663
>(simple background:-1.4)
Retard here, is this the same as putting (simple background:1.4) in your negatives instead?
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>>8129663
based
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>>8129661
They did get better, but claiming that >>8129404 wasn't loli is just silly
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she was just anorexic you imbecile
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>>8129672
If she was 2 years younger and 100lbs heavier she would still be up. It's about the good-looking thing with this particular moderation and reports, not the loli thing.
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>>8128872
>you should stop being so gloomy and post your gens
yeah
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>>8129675
See you tomorrow.
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>>8129672
It's bordering loli, but it ain't actual loli.
I was the anon claiming that jannies got better and I stand by that for now (maybe I was mistaken), but doesn't mean that they got perfect.
I'm not happy that particular pic got you banned but not really surprised, sorry cunnyanon.
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>>8129677
You see me every single day, anon:) I'm very passionate about imagegen, just not about posting images here in particular.
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>>8129678
i think if there wasnt so much shitposting coming from that side of the aisle then people wouldnt be so report happy on those particular images. most used to not really care. you made your bed and now you have to lay in it
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>>8129681
that shitposting is mostly false flagging from a single schizo with a vendetta against petite woman though
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>>8129681
I've heard this story about ebil shitposting lolicons many times and every time it's bullshit. Fuck off.
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jannies will get better if they start enforcing rules on regular /aco/ shitposters
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>>8129684
this, im sick of miqo and cathag /aco/ shit
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>>8129208
>Morning status?
wood
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>>8129683
Not him but that guy who posted those crispy deep fried NAI girls on the beach for months always acted like a complete dickhead so he caused me to turn against you guys.
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>>8129691
Who the fuck actually cares what (You) think?
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>>8129691
Shoebill was posting hags and kemono friends girls as well, didn't make you hate hags apparently. Weird logic.
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>>8129692
Clearly you do.
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>>8129691
we don't claim bird anon
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No hag poster ever called me a nigger
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>>8129691
bird anon is chill
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>>8129693
Oppai lolis do not count as hags.
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>>8129694
I cared to reply because you sound like an arrogant faggot.
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>>8129696
never seen a hag poster have a meltdown either, very curious
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>>8129699
Nah, he posted actual busty girls. Maybe not hags though, but surely not oppai lolis.
Honestly I'm not even sure if he's actually into loli, posting them just to stir shit would fit his persona.
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>>8129701
hi newfriend
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This all is so tiresome..
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>>8129701
Indeed curious. I wonder if the situation would be reversed if BBW and unrealistic tits size was sent to /d/ and given 3-days...
But sorry, understanding hypotheticals is probably too much for you.
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>>8129705
Well it's a good thing those things you mentioned are not against the rules at all on this board!
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>>8129710
/aco/ is against the rules though.
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>>8129710
So are girls that clearly reached puberty couple years ago.
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>>8129711
And it gets removed accordingly when it's actually /aco/. Fortunately, the jannies don't agree with your definition of /aco/ which is just "style i dont like"
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>>8129665
I don't think you're retard for asking. I was confused as well until I read more up on it. It's a bit different than writing in the negative prompt. The github page can prob. showcase it better than me:
https://github.com/hako-mikan/sd-webui-negpip

TLDR version: Use negpip when something you put in the negative prompt seemingly has no effect. E.g I ask for goth girl,and I type black in negatives. Nothing happens, girl has black hair, black clothes, etc. I use negpip where I type in positive prompt (black:-1.8), and it works.
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>>8129701
cathag poster had meltdowns multiple times but he is gay pedo desu
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>>8129713
>And it gets removed accordingly when it's actually /aco/
It doesn't.
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>>8129713
/aco/ rule should also be applied to non-/h/ concepts, such as "goth mommy gf" shit that is embodiment of miqo.
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>>8129717
Refer to the second part of that post you just replied to!
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>>8129665
Negative and positive prompting kind of works more like a slider with CFG while negpip doesn't have this issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B30DGzKrhnE
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>>8129722
So posts like
>>8127572
>>8127590
>>8127719
>>8127110
>>8127104
>>8126822
>>8126826
>>8126571
Are done in hentai style and belong to this board?
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We should just have a blanket ban on all western artists and certain body tags (eyeshadow, detailed nose, lipstick, gigantic breasts, etc). Sure, that would also impact /h/ gens somewhat, but it's better than the ongoing cartoonification of this thread.
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>>8129724
of course, it's not pedo shit at least
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>>8129724
If the jannies don't remove them then they belong on the board. Simple as that.
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>>8129627
np, glad it works.
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>>8129725
moar
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>>8129726
I think only Japanese made gens should be posted. Everyone else should post on /aco/ since you are not Japanese.
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>>8129728
so it's also shotacon >>8127681
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>>8129629
I think that was the same issue with processing and postprocessing, it should work fine now
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>>8129725
less
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>>8129728
>jannies don't remove them then they belong on the board
I guess so.
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>>8129725
Catbox?
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>>8129737
The only thing you can do as a general community on any board on this site is report things as off topic or against the rules. I know it's not the answer you want to hear but if the general doesn't think it should be removed the it most likely won't get removed.
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is the OP updated? tried forge from there but a lot of extensions don't work
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>>8129743
>this general is full of homosexual pedos
grim
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>>8129742
Why? I think this thread should have more of those.
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>>8129747
>homosexual pedos
Where is the futa on loli then?
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>>8129746
its dead, use comfy
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>>8129746
http://treechan.net/nsfw/thread/4.html#4 More up-to-date op
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>>8129746
reForge is the new hotness
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>>8129681
It's not about reporting. At this point I'm pretty sure almost every "rule-breaking" post is being reported, we're long past no snitching phase.
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I miss bird poster
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>>8129762
It's a numbers game. I'm sure there is just a way larger number of people reporting loli gens than reporting /aco/ or whatever else breaks the rules. I see jannies act pretty quickly on racism here too.
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>>8129763
This. Shoebill anon was too based for this thread
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I miss b-chan
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>533 / 64
on track for a new record, keep it up boys
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>>8129726
You can rip the eyeshadow tag from my cold dead hands
Also, gigantic breasts not being hentai? Really?
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>>8129764
Well, maybe, but I think amount of reports would affect the speed, not the final decision.
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>>8129770
>gigantic breasts not being hentai? Really?
Tentacles not being hentai? Really? Loli not being hentai? Really?
Yeah, really.
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>>8129769
Wouldn't have it any other way :)
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>>8129770
>Sure, that would also impact /h/ gens somewhat
We unfortunately have to slice our own flesh to get the maggots out
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>>8129762
yeah, i report shota and very obvious aco and usually it stays
>>8129764
>racism
some time ago you could get ban for any mention of indians, so i guess this means that thread is full of loli hating indians kek
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>>8129769
Meanwhile treech: 68 replies | 94 files
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I always thought loli enjoyers and shota enjoyers would be natural friends and allies
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>>8129782
i would rather kms than be ally with shota loving pinworm
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>>8129782
loli posters massively seethe over ss enjoyers while ss enjoyers dont care about loli
i enjoy both but thats what ive seen
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>>8129784
Yeah. As proven by cathag anon.
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>>8129782
i dont care about shotafags as long as they don't start moralfagging about loli being pedophilia while shotas aren't (cathag for example)
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>>8129784
>ss enjoyers dont care about loli
kek
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cathag faggot has been accused of being every schizo lmao
i hate his garbage but the seethe is hilarious
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>>8129782
They use N*I, they were never our ally
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I miscattthagbasedposteranonchad
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>>8129768
me too jordach, me too...
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So local vs nai was always code for /ss/ vs /l/?
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>>8129782
>>8129784
ss posters hate loli and calls them pedos, they seethe and piss over loli and report those posts first aswell so its natural for loli posters to be mad, actual normal anons dont care about both
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>>8129792
Everyone knows that it was luckypedoposter falseflagging. Xe seethed the most from cathag anon's based gens.
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>>8129133
When will you actually address the point though? Retards like you are acting like you should never make loras because you just fix it in post. We literally had anons shitting on model bakers for saying this yet you somehow think this is a good argument now? No it's obvious that the model itself should be able to do this innately, like NAI can, or loras should be made to help it. "You should do it yourself" is not a good excuse at all. This is what dishonesty looks like.
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hurry invent more headcannon we havent gone far enough
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>>8129802
Is there a guide somewhere to become a thread schizo? I really need to up my game
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every baker is fucking retarded and we will never have public dataset repositories because people suck ass and also doing anything on hf sucks ass
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neggles admitted yesterday that xe posts here as anon sometimes, maybe xe's one of the schizos?
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>>8129805
no wonder why advice here sucks ass
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I miss luckyposter, he was the most based of them all
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i miss saya anon
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i miss luckyhagbird poster so much
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>>8129796
Jordach is too autistic to care. He'll never realize what he fumbled
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>>8129780
cant believe that place easily blows the shit out of this garbage chat nogen place
perhaps even use that place for gens only and use this thread for your usual nogen chat
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>>8129821
why don't you move there then
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>>8129822
i actually might
just leave this place for eternal nogenning chit chat, and will use treechan for gen dumping
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>>8129812
Then you should visit jordach's trooncord and stay there with xim. You will have lots of fun helping xim baking xis pedo loras for 821th time.
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Fucking furries shitting up the place then promoting the treechan
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>>8129821
Already reposted some of my /e/ there. Not that I really ever got deleted from /e/, but whatever, that place seems like it might just be better for both /h/ and /e/ anyway.
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>>8129597
Yeah >>8129603 how many characters have that mark on their shoe soles vs wear leotards.
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>>8129663
Thanks for the tip. Are you using any score tags too?
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>>8129782
They're like opposites, most shota get paired with mega hags while loli is self-insert ugly bastard. Same-age pairings are rare for both.
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>>8129749
Futacock isn't schizo approved and loli gets a ding dong
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>>8129837
Sir, ugly bastard is not a self-insert, not yet at least.
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>>8129832
i personally got b& from /e/ with my first posts and she had just small breasts not even loli, kek
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>>8129832
Don't think it has any chance of being better than /e/, but I also don't want /h/fags to shit up /e/ so tough choice.
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Okay real talk; what models and future projects for models we do have? Is there even 1 company or person that is creating a local model that is objectively better? Anything new? Also does anyone know WHY he pony creator is actually pruning artist tags?
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i miss smearyblurfor25dollars anon
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>>8129831
>Fucking furries shitting up the place
not really
>then promoting the treechan
i mean, they got actual non-retarded people as mods, and if you dont want furry you just stay inside the specific hdg thread that is anime only, theres quite some reasons why its miles better but people just dont like change, so i hope youre happy with your lovely janitors and nogenners here
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>>8129848
why do you ask this literally every thread
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>>8129848
NAIv4
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>8129848
oh boy another round of nai bbc whining
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>>8129850
I'm noticing
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>>8129851
>asks this while posting nai pic
maybe he got so tired of paying, it can get tiresome if you pay every fucking month
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finally nai vs pony episode
i like those more than pedo shitposting episodes ngl
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>>8129863
agreed, time to take a shot every time you hear blurry or sepia
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Maduro won
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>>8129868
Beautiful! Post more, please.
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You useless pieces of shit why didn't anybody tell me about aibooru before?
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>>8129890
It's in the OP..
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>>8129892
Okay to my defence no one reads the OP
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>>8129896
The has:metadata tag is great too
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>>8129898
I'm going to steal some prompts
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Why don't I see anyone talking about controlnet anytest? It even works on realistic Pony models.
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>>8129903
?
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>>8129404
wrong Fern https://x.com/kinoharakossuta/status/1745800175333830686
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>>8129903
anon the post to image ratio in this thread is 10:1
controlnet anytest is used to make images
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>>8129903
Cause we already said everything two months ago
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Why didn't anyone tell me that pony diffusion v6 model can generate hentai? I thought it's a my little pony model. It's so good!
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>>8129903

i don't see anyone talking outside this thread. i've never seen a post on reddit for example
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>>8129914
probably because controlnet doesn't feel any essential for sdxl
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>>8129903
based anon who just awoke from a coma
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All the right posts removed, keep it up boiis
2500 posts possible?
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>>8129508
Her name doesn't even refer to the plant.
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>>8129492
This is a prepubescent child.
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>>8129340
>this was actually deleted
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>>8129931
For the wrong reason, it was off topic.
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>>8129932
Make her face more anime-like and you can spam as much of this as you want
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>>8129934
>Make her face more anime-like
Why? It's /hdg/.
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>>8129932
catbox?
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>>8129903
Controlnet is img2img turbo, it gets boring pretty quick
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>>8129938
Catbox please?
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>>8129834
box for this style? proportion are a bit fucked but I like the face
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>>8129928
Ok? Tell that to the ai then
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Actually, dear anons, l'm so fucking tired of enduring it. I feel that we have to fight for justice, don't you agree?

I know how anons treat transgenders here, so I kindly ask you to drop that arrogant act and unite against /aco/ hag hegemony. Personally, I fight "for lolis" because I feel like a little girl inside. I was born into this disgusting fat male body, but when I see "loli" post getting deleted it makes me extremely sad because it feels like a personal discrimination against those who think of themselves as little girls. And even further, it prevents me from jerking off. I like to imagine how a huge vieny cock goes inside my tight pussy, fills me up and makes me shudder scream with pleasure, how a man atop me twists my nipples so much they feel numb, dribbling in my mouth, how he absolutely dominates me and locks in place, so that I can't even twitch.

Board janitors don't allow such kinds of pleasures here because of their moronic prejudices and count it as a CSAM or whatever. Some trolls and outright fascists support them, the latter being completely unable to grasp that their "shota" self-insert is a carbon copy of this, and that little girls also have their feelings and sexual desires. Since the board is made for its users, not for some retarded janitors and trolls, I really really want to nuke this stupid and insensitive rule that highly favors those who already rich. Why was it set in the first place? Not a single thread on this board is as heavily monitored and gets purged as this one. Not a single one benefits from this rule content-wise, it only makes the trolls happy and encourages shitposting. Additionally, the administration must allow mild tentacles and make the janitors follow the 4th rule: >>4551312
Since something like this >>8129932 >>8129164 should not be posted on this board under any circumstances. What happens is simply not acceptable.

Have a cute gen: https://files.catbox.moe/56twh3.png
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uh oh hag meltie
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>>8129951
How do I contact the CEO of AI?
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>>8129971
Shut up. This board does not belong to you, nogen troll.
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>>8129974
Nice color palette :)
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>>8129968
With all due respect, stfu tranny
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>>8129503
why is there so much color banding
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>>8129978
No, stfu you, you autistic, tasteless and inhuman piece of shit. You are the reason this thread became so unbearable.
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>>8129972
Im not telling you how to contact my dad
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Thank fucking god we shoo'd away the NAIpedos.
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>>8129983
Who are you trying to bait, good sir? There's no one here.
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>>8129968
>Additionally, the administration must allow mild tentacles
I was going to ignore this entire post until you said this but now I fully agree. Fuck whatever retard that decided fucking tentacles is not /h/. However the solution is to go to treechan not to complain here. Jannies and mods are dumb and consistently worsen the entire site. Look at how there's no ip counter anymore. How does that help anyone except samefag shitposters? It's time to accept that this website is shit and move on. You're not here forever.
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>>8129952
Hot. Gives me an idea for my next couple gens.
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>>8129999
there's no ip counter on treech as well
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>>8130001
There doesn't have to be if posters from india and israel are banned.
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>>8130002
it's bullshit
tor works
israel vpn works
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Is there a convenient way to migrate forge to new forge
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>>8130007
yes
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>>8130007
I suggest just to doing a clean install and moving things there. If coming from "new" Forge, a lot of issues will happen because the updated reqs from OG Forge.
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>>8129996
I'm just not gonna reply to you and stop feeding the troll.
>>8129999
Sorry not gonna attend a dead furry altchan managed by two delusional people. It is not that difficult to adjust a few rules and open up the janitor applications, it just needs to happen.
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/hdg/ newfag here. Was it ever this bad in the past?
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Beautiful detail on that last gen! I especially like how that big round nose is so pronounced! Thank god we have this instead of some... fern? A plant? Anime is so cringe am I right?!
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>>8130017
This is genuinely a new low.
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>>8130009
catbox please
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>>8130017
the spammers we had a month ago were pretty bad but this might be even worse in a different way
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>>8130022
It just feels like decay now.
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>>8130025
nice detailed shading good job anon
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1.5 let's go!
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The state of you.
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>>8129848
idk box?
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>>8130028
local could never
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>>8130022
wait whats wrong right now, I automatically dont read any post that are too long so I feel like the groid spammer was way worse
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>>8130028
>look at the fucking sight of you.
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>>8130023
because it is
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>>8130033
Just /aco/ gens getting posted ironically, and all the other genners either left or stopped posting.
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>>8130039
>either left or stopped posting.
It's at least 3 bans now if you ctrl+f deleted.
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>>8129160
They might be but you're also getting the shark logo pretty accurately so good job.
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>>8130049
If you want to view this cross-eyes, you need to swap the images.
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>>8130049
is this one of those things were you go cross eyed and it becomes 3d?
>>8130052
kek
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>>8129541
yea i dont think dynamic thresholding is working on main either. not matter what settings i use it has no effect on the image.
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>>8130049
Is this a lora?
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>>8130055
It's done with depthmap. You can do either 3d like this or simple animations.
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>>8130049
very based
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>>8130058
Thanks, that's useful. Lora may work better though.
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Please do not impregnate sleeping maids, even if they were cheeky and rude.
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>>8130058
>simple animations
qrd?
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>>8130063
Good to see you anon but please make her tits bigger so you don't get b&
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does BREAK really help or is it just placebo
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Can anyone test out the [SEP] functionality for adetailer and tell me if it works for you? I swear it used to work before and now it only applies the first prompt instead of applying the second to the second face as it is supposed to.
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>>8130063
look at that blush and that pillow grab, she's clearly just pretending to be asleep
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trainer sirs please
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1egwgfk/joycaption_free_open_uncensored_vlm_early/
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>single lora of doujin artist on civitai
>barely usable at weight 0.2
why are civitfags like this...
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>>8130065
Making cute (adult) flatties into off-model generic tittyblobs is one thing I will never do.

>>8130068
How scandalous. To think a maid would frivolously stay up enjoying themselves instead of making sure they are well-rested for another full day of work... this may require correction.

>>8130063
The polite thing to do is to pull out so that the maid can continue to do their job without the burden of pregnancy. Don't worry about cleaning up though, that is well within the maid's duties and they can handle it in the morning.
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>>8130063
>>8130075
I love sleeping sex I wish people posted more of it
btw its rape
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>>8130074
https://litter.catbox.moe/26wali.jpg
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>>8130081
bro stop using perfectEyes it does nothing for pony
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>>8130047
that's the nice thing about training with 3d models, there's way more consistency with the text than what you'd get from fan art.
on the downside the tail posing is way more limited than what you'd see in actual art but that's still probably a good thing with how much the ai struggles even with this
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>>8130081
>https://litter.catbox.moe/26wali.jpg
good shit
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>>8130080
Obviously, if they weren't maids, it wouldn't be OK. But this is well within a maid's traditional duties.

And, of course, everyone knows that elves (and half-elves) are freely available for breeding at all times. That's just logical.
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>>8130072
wtf does /sdg/ actually train something
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>>8130080
https://litter.catbox.moe/2rf9m1.jpg
>>8130084
That's the least of the issues in my gigaretard tier prompts.
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Test
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>>8130093
Beautiful!
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>>8130095
https://litter.catbox.moe/zfqcwa.jpg
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>>8130102
I think her pussy is upside-down. Nice background though.
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How come every adetailer other than face I try dont work? Is there a setting I need or something?
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>>8130093
based
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https://litter.catbox.moe/kyba9j.jpg
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>>8130109
They just suck, hands adetailer makes it worse. Eyes detailer used to be bad too in 1.5 I only started using it really with pony / sdxl.
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>>8130118
But my problem is not that they suck they just dont do anything and they dont even do a pass when activated so I cant even try if they are good or not
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>>8130109
For me adetailer always detects the face without her eyes. Anyway I've given up on it, just inpaint manually when I get a good gen.
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>>8130109
Face is the easiest to enhance.
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>someone posting /aco/ just to try and trigger people
>also the retarded futacock shitposter is back
great thread.
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>>8130125
Focus on the good parts
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>>8130125
>>8130131
This but unironically.
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>>8130055
used owl3d which does depthmap and then some other stuff on top, i have only sorta picked it apart but i think its just using off the shelf stuff like depthanything for depth and SD for infilling
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>>8130132
wasn't meant to be ironic, we're getting some nice gens posted in-between all that
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this entire thread is rancid dogshit all the way up. im joining team inkcel now. ai is just getting more and more disgusting, aom2 was the point of no return
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>>8130054
Hmm I did some changes to cond/uncond and cfg denoiser that maybe affects this

if you a lot commits back (https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/d8263898a38946af6a23910c69daa9764b768ca3)does it works fine?
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alright cya, dont let the door hit you on the way out!
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how do you guys fix adetailer having visible seams
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>>8130145
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/d8263898a38946af6a23910c69daa9764b768ca3

working link,didn't use space kek
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>>8129174
Right is training mostly on the very first timestep, left is mostly on the first and last. I guess I will continue with that.
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>>8130147
increase feathering, reduce denoise, both, or use an inpainting model
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>>8130151
feathering? is that inpaint mask padding?
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>>8130152
Maybe, give it a try. I don't know what it's called in your UI, it's supposed to expand the mask outward with partial transparency.
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>>8130152
No mask blur. Mask padding takes more of the entire image into consideration when denoising.
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>>8130080
Somno CNC is a thing
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>>8130148
it still does not seem to be working
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>>8130114
Wish there was an easier way to make the bystanders appear further away instead of tiny people next to a giant woman.
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>>8130163
thanks, so is it recommended to turn up blur, but keep padding low? or is maxing out padding the best?
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>>8130182
It should be on a case by case basis. I'm lazy so I keep mask padding high at 128 which lets me not have to type anything into the adetailer prompt for *most* things. Mask blur at 4 is usually enough but you may have to raise it on somethings. However I remember maxing it out at 64 one time and then the details didn't come out exactly as I'd like so it really depends.
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>>8130184
thank you
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>>8130185
Based
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>>8130184
high mask padding means worse quality
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>>8130165
Hmm you don't get any effect at all? I tested and it seems it makes a difference.

Also Paint edit because I suck at this.
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>>8130210
can you catbox it? i feel like mine doesnt make a difference

https://files.catbox.moe/1e91ky.png
https://files.catbox.moe/xh4vvk.png
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How to you transfer stuff from forge to new forge without new installing and moving folders
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>>8130219
thats with two different mimic values. with it off it also doesnt do anything. maybe a model diff?
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>>8126832
Dreamshaper 8 model, but any anime-based model gives similar results. Used a prompt with the words "phallus cloudy sky beautiful victorian blonde woman victorian satin red dress frilly". "Phallus" is the main trigger word for the lora.

For the lora's data set, I used images from an author's picture set on Pixiv. I created multiple variations of each image by adding noise and changing the palette to artificially increase the dataset size. I used regularization images generated through img2img of a character in a similar poise.

Right now I'm trying to increase the quality of the lora without losing the concept and flexibility. Overgeneralization caused the results to be chaotic or the concept to disappear while going in the opposite direction reduced quality and made the lora inflexible. I appreciate any advice on this.
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>>8130225
Add reforge repo origin, pull it and checkout its branch.
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>>8130225
just git pull it
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>>8130232
Forgot to mention, for the scifi gen, I used ipdapter plus on one another person's gen to transfer the style.
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How do I unfuck backgrounds when training a style Lora?
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>>8129137
i was already messing with alternate init noise, so it wasn't much effort, and it's more so that some random newfag doesn't buy into the "impossible" garbage, looking back should've left some catboxes

https://files.catbox.moe/entohs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/8wdioc.png
what makes >>8129133 dark is mostly the extension alternate init noise, the right prompt/negs helps and some samplers work with it better than others, you can achieve similar effect by using a black image in img2img, although it's better if you add some noise and dim color blobs where you want them

>>8129139
couldn't be bothered with all the shitposting for a while now so i don't come here often
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>>8130235
I'm retarded. What folder should I git pull into
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>>8130219
Sure.

no dyn CFG
https://files.catbox.moe/01fztw.png
with dyn CFG
https://files.catbox.moe/hyvopp.png
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>>8130243
In \sd.webui\webui

then just follow the commands on their github
https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
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What's the absolute best image gen I can use to make my OC ?
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>>8130255
a pencil
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>>8130255
wut

you mean interface?

WebUi (local on gpu) vs Nai (paid website) are your main options
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is it normal that a finished gen (actual file that is saved) is slightly desaturated compared to the preview in the ui? or am i fucking something up?
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>>8130257
I'am not sure since I've never used any besides NovelAI and it's been pretty shit.
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>>8130255
Koikatsu and
https://rentry.org/Copier_Method_Notes
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>>8130255
What's your OC like? If your OC is simple enough, you can generate it alone with pure prompting.
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Do we have any confirmation on if LORAs made for Pony V6 will still function with V7? I'm all for sticking with Pony if it's an actual improvement & doesn't break shit
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>>8130299
they won't
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>>8130301
that's fuckin annoying. will have to replace like 300GB and find all the chars all over again.
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>>8130240
So then you really are a fool since this is literally my point. Why would it be "laughably useless" to make an extension like alternate init noise or a waste of time to make a lora for darkness when SDXL as a whole struggles with this? Why is this deficiency okay just because the user can fix it afterwards? Would you claim it's okay for SD1.5 to struggle with sex positions and laugh at people making sex pose loras? Why is this simple argument the shitpost yet you misrepresenting it somehow the moment of clarity? It's really unfortunate what's actually become of /hdg/ where you can actually have people making fun of someone for helping the community.
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>>8130314
tech evolves. the moment better solutions show up, pivot.
they're not here yet, use what works.
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Based text general.
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>>8130273
What is all this
It doesn't even says how you train with this method, it's just a kk lora showcase
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>>8130336
tl;dr: train a lora on a bunch of images from some media to get a generic style of the thing
once you have a style, train a specific character to capture all of their features
subtract the loras.

you can also do this with sd-scripts --base_weights
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if i were to fall for refiner meme - arti or neta?
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>>8130333
not on my watch
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>>8130339
You don't need to do anything after training the character, the style info should be in the base model
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>>8130346
the 100th image, very based
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>>8130100
>>8130112
I bet some poor soul will actually go to the archive to see what was deleted.
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>>8130346
catbox pls?
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>>8130346
Bro think of the textgens...
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>>8130278
It's fairly complex android, I just wanna know how to actually make it in the imagen
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>>8130339
>subtract the loras.
>you can also do this with sd-scripts --base_weights
Excuse me, what? Never really heard of this
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>>8130355
https://files.catbox.moe/n1mz80.png

>>8130357
rise imagebros

>>8130359
If you have pretty good art of your character, there are guides available for creating loras for characters with a single image or a few.

You might want to first learn the basics of local image gen with Forge or A1111 depending on what hardware you have, and then start trying to learn how to train. But I am sure someone knows better than I do.

Or if you post your character in a zip or have enough images now, some kind anon could bake your character for you.
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>sagging testicles make the dick bigger
Why? It better not be because of Zheng
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>>8130366
to subtract, just merge with negative ratio
--base_weights is where you pass a lora in before training so that training continues from checkpoint + lora, so that whatever you pass in isn't re-learned, like an existing style.
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>>8130357
assbox?
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>>8128709
Any of you guys messed with AuraFlow? Does it produce better porn?

Would like any alternative to stable diffusion. Its probably gonna stagnate because of SD3's failure.
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>>8130367
So I go for local image gens instead of Nai?
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>>8130381
I prefer local but I would say yes. That depends on your GPU though, if you don't have a good PC, it would require a decent one.

If you have one start looking into setting up ForgeUi (reforge) if you have an older 8-12gb vram gpu or A1111 if you have high end hardware.

Links to both are in the OP.
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reforge guy here, for the anon that wanted automaticCFG https://github.com/Extraltodeus/ComfyUI-AutomaticCFG/blob/main/nodes_sag_custom.py

Ported it, it seems all works except Presets, not sure what's happening there

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commit/9cbd9b52cca7a52a52574f092d01b0976a0f7ba0
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I found the secret to generating good ai pictues.
You have to splurge on a 4090.
This was done in literally 3 seconds.
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>>8130391
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>>8130392
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>>8130391
>>8130392
>>8130397
these are all half to 3/4 photos what are you doing
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>>8130398
wdym
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>>8130391
messed up foot :(
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>>8130392
sniffa
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>>8130391
>>8130392
>>8130397
pretty good. got anymore?
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>>8130406
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>>8130408
idk why but nagatoro's face always comes fucked up
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>>8130408
nice
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>>8130372
Merge what, I still don't get it, sorry I have a single braincell
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>>8130391
>>8130392
>>8130408
>blue eyes
not my gremlin
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>>8130418
I forgot to put green eyes on the prompt
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>>8130385
interesting, thank you!
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Should I add a signature to the stuff I post online or is that a retarded idea?
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>>8130426
yes, make sure there's at least 6 watermarks on your images
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>putting signature on a fucking AI art
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>>8130417
NTA, but it sounds like he's saying to merge the style lora and the character lora, but give the style lora a negative weight, essentially subtracting the style from the character lora.

The --base_weights thing is a different way to do almost the same thing. It essentially does this "subtraction" during training of the character lora by merging the style lora into your base model (like Pony) before training the character lora. Lora training is basically learning the difference between your base model and your dataset. So when the style lora is merged into the base model, the difference between the model and your dataset is just the character without the style.
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>>8130432
Pumping
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>>8130438
Hot.
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>>8130426
Yes but dont make it obnoxious
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>>8130444
>Yes
Why? It's extremely petty and cringe.
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>>8130435
so downloading an anime screencap lora and using it on --base_weights, then training a character lora with a dataset consisting of anime screencaps, would yield a training without bleeding style? I gotta have proof
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>>8130445
depends where you post, putting signature for stuff you post here is retarded but I dont see the issue on other place
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>>8130452
Watermarked ai reeks of cheap slopper pajeets that get full of themselves because they got their 10 thousand bots following them on twitter.
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>>8130450
I haven't done that exactly, but I did train a style lora on the Frieren anime and then trained a multi-character lora using this method as a proof of concept. I only used anime screencaps and there is no apparent anime style. Picrel is autism with no style lora, but it also plays fine with my other style loras. They aren't terribly complex character designs, so your mileage may vary.
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>>8130380
People thought SDXL was a failure too yet here we are.
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>>8130391
Box? How did you get it done in 3 seconds? It takes me 6 on my 4090.
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>>8130410
Cute
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god! pony colors a fucking disgusting
any shitmerge that somehow fixes that?
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Does everyone go thru their datasets for a lora and remove the artist watermarks?

I've gotten pretty fast at using the w11 erase tool and I was wondering if there was a more efficient way to handle it.
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>>8130467
SDXL had a lot of retarded ideas like refiner or two text encoders but in the end people just started using it as a big param 1.5, lol.
And the issue with XL was that there was no usable anime finetune for many months. There were sdg shills coming here claiming how great sdxl is while posting shitty 1girl standing pictures, that obviously caused some backlash.
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>>8130471
ahhhhh more mistress please mu white sticky goo is coming out ahhhhhhhhh
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>>8130475
I would use loss masks instead. It takes more effort actually, but your lora won't learn the erase tool's style, or the awkward compositions with empty space where a watermark was supposed to be.
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>>8130479
To tell you the truth I don't know what a loss mask is, and if I can even use it. I train my loras on Civ.(its better than you think)

Here is an example of an image I used the erase tool on with a shitty screenshot, but it works. I think the erase tool does a good job for me right now. I was more curious if there is a more automated way of doing what I am doing right now with less manual-ness.

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>>8130479
NTA but I have tried doing this. I noticed it seems to dampens learning. I trained one lora without masks and another with the same dataset and training settings but with masks. The masked lora did successfully eliminate the watermarks, but it also seemed much weaker than the non-masked one. Not sure if I need to tweak settings or let it bake longer, but that was my experience.
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>>8130483
Bake longer, yes. But if you just hide a watermark it shouldn't slow down training much at all. Only if you're hiding large sections or entire backgrounds.

>>8130482
The issue is it can now learn her messed up sleeve and then it'll randomly show up in gens when you don't expect it. I've seen it happen.

But I don't know if Civit has the option to train with masked loss.
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>>8130468
I downloaded reforge and the autism model, just typed what I wanted and it worked out of the box.
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>>8130486
Where is the catbox?
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>>8130485
I picked a shitty example, I could have done that one a lot better, thankfully this is a concept lora and I have around 100 images. So I think it should be fine.
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>>8130474
Pony wasn't properly trained. Nothing would fix a bad model.
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>>8130246
hmm, yea im not sure why it doesnt work for me. not a deal breaker though. ill try to see whats wrong
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>>8130314
box?
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>>8130492
>2D_Fish_V1.fp16,
what's this model?
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>>8130497
https://civitai.com/models/578947/2d-fish-or-pony-animemix
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NAI leak needs to happen again
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Fellas it is gay to directly stare at your bud's balls while you fuck the girl?
Also, which sampler do you guys use for inpaint? and what about soft inpaint?
Pic related is a very poor first try at inpaint on local with the little knowledge I gather from
>https://rentry.org/fluffscaler-inpaint
Any suggestion or cool hack is welcome
And yes, I know the dude bellow the girl has an uncanny long torso, I noticed too late
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>>8130499
Even a NAI v3 leak wouldn't make people switch.
We have models right now that are way better than pony, yet people still cling to pony because of pony brainrot.
NAI v3 leak won't change that
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>>8130496
metadata is in the file
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>>8130504
>a NAI v3 leak wouldn't make people switch
phahahahahahaha okay that's some nice cope there.
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>>8130504
No gen forgot to take his meds
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>>8130504
bait used to be believable
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>>8130510
We already have a model that performs on the same level as NAI v3 for SFW images.
Yet, in all the SFW SD generals people still use animagine or pony.
People don't like switching once they're very familiar with how a model works. It was the same with 1.5.
It took a while for people to switch from 1.5 to pony/animagine despite those model obviously being way better than any 1.5 model.
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>>8130510
Being completely serious:
I'm a localtard and decided to finally try out NAI... and was very underwhelmed. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but it doesn't seem better than pony
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>>8130513
If we wanted SFW we wouldn't be on /hdg/ retard
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>>8130515
It's the arti shill just ignore him.
>>8130514
You should go to pixiv and see what nips are doing with it.
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>>8130513
This.
People won't switch from pony to a nai leak because they'll have to relearn how to prompt without all the "score_69" tags lmao.
"Pony brainrot" is a very appropriate term for it.
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>>8130514
Try to do anything related with swords, guns or fighting poses on both and post again
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>>8130500
oppaichad's guide still werks
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>>8130513
Most of the lora bakers are trying to recreate what NAI is already doing.
>>8130514
NAI sucks because we can't do any of the local things onto it.
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>>8130500
>soft inpaint?
used it to already upscaled image to change leg's shitty proportions and in result it didn't looked out of place (or, inpainted), its uses more compute than normal inpainting though
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>>8130514
You need artist tags and overall use tags that are different lel. Try more than 1girl standing. Also use vibe transfer
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>>8130504
>We have models right now that are way better than pony
>We already have a model that performs on the same level as NAI v3 for SFW images.
examples please?
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>>8130385
NTA but not sure why my gens dont work with it turned on. am i supposed to enable simple, dynamic, and rescale?
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>>8130517
>"Pony brainrot" is a very appropriate term for it.
It made them blind too. 99% of posted local gens looks like /aco/ shit yet noone complains about it. Average local user itt really thinks that's how anime looks like.
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>>8130525
autismmix
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>>8130514
i literally never used it for anything other than 1girl and even for that its better just for the artstyles
>>8130029
naiii
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>>8130519
Thanks, I'll take a look at it

>>8130523
But did you just enable it and that's it? do you used it with the default values? it has a lot of options
>its uses more compute than normal inpainting though
I think my 4070 ti super can handle it just fine

Also I just hit a good seed for what I intended to do but one of the fellas just can't stop being gay for no reason
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>>8130535
>one of the fellas just can't stop being gay for no reason
homophobic much?
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>>8130537
perhaps
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HDG
What is better?
>Dogs
>ugly bastards
>black people
>orc
>small goblins
>pigs
>horses
When it comes to beautiful women x disgusting creature?
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>>8130479
Is there any guide for Loss mask training?
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>>8130541
horses easily
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>>8130370
Long Ball Larry.
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>>8130541
I only like ugly bastards.
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>>8130535
>But did you just enable it and that's it? do you used it with the default values?
i've measured how much im inpainting and put it in width and height values and also bumped mask blur
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Can someone share the pony size difference lora, please?
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>>8130541
i like orc and horse
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>>8130541
Black Dogs so I can self insert
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>>8130541
You're going /d/ anyways so, tentacle hair monstergirl
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>>8130479
two problems with masked loss at the moment.
the short of it is that it works, it can isolate one character out of a pair or whatever, it's very effective
the cons:
avoid pure black when possible. even if you patch the code to add a minimum + clamp to mask values:
clamp01(mask value + 0.3)
or
(mask value + 0.3) / (1.3), you get the idea.
what pure black does specifically around a character is that it "unlearns" empty space. say your character has a white background and you toss a mask value of 0 on that, it will forget how to do empty space and will fill that space with the character features bleeding outwards into that space. use a minimum value for masks either directly in the mask image or the code.
second issue is that masks leak, when applied directly to the gradient as a hook or during loss calculation, masks appear to leak. not sure if this is solved yet, let us know if you can fix it. Could be confirmation bias of course, but if you for example take a realistic cosplay set and mask out the face with 0, the face will eventually become realistic anyway (specifically, the nose nostrils, for example), showing that even with masking leakage is occurring.
doesn't work with --random_crop, so you lose clarity when working with fine details like blush lines, eyes, fabric etc.

this is more of a "prioritisation" rather than masking. If you can consistently automate it, I would recommend it but there are significant downsides (which can be fixed, if you were AI/ML savvy, I'm not)
Random crop would be solved by passing the same crop values from the source image over to the mask image, through some group/batch vars or similar.
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>>8129152
pretty accurate yeah, we're already doing or planning to do most of that

>>8129334
trainer achieves 24 million samples (5 epochs with current non-final dataset) in about 2300 GPU hours

>>8129555
it's fairly straightforward as a comfy node, idk how plugging that into forge works but considering most of that code is yoinked from comfy and it's basically just one more ModelSampling class shouldn't be too hard
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>>8130563
In your example, it could be learning realism from the rest of the image. Then changing her face to match the style using the model's realism knowledge.

To be sure you'd have to mask out something unique. Create a new watermark the model doesn't know, add it to the whole dataset, mask at full black, then promp watermark with the lora and see if it looks similar.
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>>8130566
What are your preferred pronouns?
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>>8130563
masked loss is a huge fuckin meme and a crutch for people who don't want to assemble better datasets

also remember that you're working in 8x8 pixel blocks once you're down at the latent level where the "masking" occurs, which would likely be why you get bleed (alongside VAE compression, which has nonlocal aspects - ie a latent contains some info about neighbouring latents - which is why tiled decode is sometimes fucky)
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nobara sex
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Alrighty, wildcard anon is back, so I'm working on a "looks" wildcard set to spice things up even more. Like it'll append some tags after a character tag to take an existing character and do shit like make her Gyaru or something like that. It's not so much "outfits" as it is the general vibe of a character.
Here's my basic list for now
>Gyaru/Ganguro
>Chibi
>Shortstack
>Goblins/imps
>Lalafell, I swear these are different...
>Alt hair style/color, using a nested setup of wildcards to provide hair style, length, braids/ponytails/twintails
>"Splatoon", where it turns them into inklings for the shits and giggles
>Werewolf
>Arrancar/Hollow from Bleach, with the mask and shit.... weirdly works well
>Centaurs for the horse pussy, also works really well (I wonder why...)
>Cow girls
>Slimes, another one that works surprisingly well, even gets them translucent on occasion
>Magical girl, complete with wand, perfect for tentacles
>Dark elf/night elf
>succubus
>demon, with the horns and hooves and shit
>cunny
>aged_up, mature_female, for the ones that aren't already
>goth
>femboy
>kemono, with a wildcard list of animal variants
>furry, using the same list as above

That's all the ones I have for now. Anyone have any other ideas? I'm something of a degenerate, so /trash/ shit can fly too.
Please ignore the deformed club hand. Image is just an example of one of the looks.
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>>8130569
bait/harder/anon
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>>8130573
as opposed to bara sex
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>>8130455
But what if you just prompt for signature and let the AI sign its own work?
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why you ever responding to him, wdv is DOA after moralfagging cunny from dataset
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>>8130579
well over 1/4 of the dataset is uncensored hentai, dumbass
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>>8130541
Skeletons.
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>>8130574
Costumes of other characters, if you have some unpruned loras lying around.
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>>8130580
but muh cunneh...
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>>8130566
how fast you can shit out a single epoch of the full dataset? its so we can estimate an amount of time
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>>8130580
>talks about cunny not being present in dataset
>"hentai is 1/4 of dataset you CHUD"
did you dilated your brain accidentally
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>>8130580
Niggles can you tell us if your hardware is reliable and secured for future bakes or will it stop being available when you guys finish the training of wdv?
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>>8130588
to be fair danbooru has plenty of hebe girls outside of gold pics
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>>8130584
I've been doing em prompt only (though I don't need to anymore), but yeah, some cosplay might be neat. I've got a characters wildcard list, but I'll probably have to make an entirely new wildcard set for that so I'm not bringing in the character tags.
Good one.

Just added
>giantess, works really good
>mini, works occasionally, more often than not adds a separate person that's tiny instead of actually making the subject tiny
>slightly chubby
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>>8130580
these are just drawings pearl clutcher. go to the real degen diffusion on >>>/b/. much more abhorrent shit there.
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>>8130150
I really like how it learns little details and color gradients from the artist but the colors overall are still unbelievably fucked. Gonna retrain on the last two timesteps...
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>>8130585
>>8130588
forgot what that word meant for a moment. yeah i literally could not give less of a fuck, morals aside I'm a big fan of not going to jail. if you really badly want to meet chris hansen then you can train a lora (or more likely wait for someone else to do it because you can't be fucked to put in the effort yourself)

>>8130586
takes like 13-15hrs give or take but only when there's idle capacity
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Noob here, I'm using a laptop with a 3060 and it takes 20-40 minutes to generate an image. How long should I expect it to take to train a LoRA on this hardware?
I am also wondering if there is an easy way to do booru tagging for a fanbox rip.
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>>8130597
>3060 and it takes 20-40 minutes to generate an image
lol
you're likely generating with your cpu or your vram's overflowing
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>>8130572
>masked loss is a huge fuckin meme and a crutch for people who don't want to assemble better datasets
Honestly after that anon's description I think this too. It's already a huge pain to have to draw your own mask, but if the issue is just trying to avoid learning backgrounds...do it on white background? I've made several style loras with datasets that had 100% white background and had no issue and I don't have to deal with mask leaking and unlearning empty space etc. So much work for a bad lora in the end.
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>>8130596
niggles is from australia i see
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>>8130591
yeah models arent stupid they can see naked girls and clothed loli and work it out
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>>8130591
that's gonna be pruned either way because of retagging and """curating""", no way xhey're using danbooru dataset and tags as is
>>8130596
>yeah i literally could not give less of a fuck, morals aside I'm a big fan of not going to jail.
are aussie laws THIS bad about drawn art
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>>8130598
Maybe, I have no fucking clue what I'm doing yet. I don't think I'm generating with CPU so maybe it's the latter, how do I fix this? Is this what --medvram-sdxl is for?
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>>8130602
>are aussie laws THIS bad about drawn art
aussie laws are absolutely fucking ridiculous
I don't know if it's still a thing but porn with flat chested adult girls was illegal there at some point
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>>8130596
I wanna know, if you're a she, does your body has the ability to generate legit biological babies inside your belly or not?
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>>8130599
127,127,127 background should work better than white (it's what inpaint uses to represent the alpha/mask) but otherwise yup

>>8130602
yes, yes they are. also have to consider laws in the place where the data is stored and where training hardware is.

long story short ya girl ain't taking the risk for something she don't want, need, like, or care about in the slightest.
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>>8130597
I wouldn't bother, considering a desktop 3060 takes around 6 days to train a Lora, you'd be looking at 9 days or more.

If you really want to stick with this hobby fork over the rig to handle it or rent compute from google colab or a similar service.
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>>8130604
NVCP -> Manage 3D settings -> CUDA sysmem fallback policy -> Prefer no sysmem fallback

6gb is probably considered to be lowvram for sdxl. are you using a1111? try --lowvram flag
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>>8130601
>work it out
>meanwhile pony inflates chloe's thighs to be 2x of her torso
>>8130605
>>8130607
then i retract my puss towards neggles, as long as its gonna look /a/ and NAI-tier for general SFW i'll win
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>>8130602
also,
>that's gonna be pruned either way because of retagging and """curating""", no way xhey're using danbooru dataset and tags as is
actually for the test v0.1 model that is *exactly* what we did kek
no tag processing other than shuffle, no dropout (oops), no image filtering at all beyond "is at least 768x768px"

and even in final we're not doing any "curating" on the base model, that would make it a shittier base model, curation is for aesthetic tunes
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>>8130610
>>meanwhile pony inflates chloe's thighs to be 2x of her torso
don't forget that 3/4 of pony dataset is the most disgusting acoslop imaginable. wdv (if it succeeds of course) will be much more of anime model than ponyshit, which inherently means more petite girls. there's still a lot of chloe pics on danbooru that are not marked as loli, even explicit ones, for example
worst case scenario it will start aging girls up with sex prompts... but it's not guaranteed.
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>>8130608
Fuckkkk. Well, yeah, a new desktop rig is on the agenda. Being a poorfag sucks.
>>8130609
Thanks, I'll give that a try. I am using ComfyUI which I installed as an extension for a1111. I have quickly realized this is probably sub-optimal but it works, somewhat. I have no idea if a1111 arguments are being passed on to ComfyUI, though.
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>>8130597
>How long should I expect it to take to train a LoRA on this hardware?

With a laptop 3060, it takes about 30 minutes to train a lora with about 20 images at 512x512 target resolution. You won't be able to train a SDXL lora with it.
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>>8130616
That sounds more manageable, but 20 images sounds like a very small dataset, right?
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>>8130566
Neggles-sama... artists? characters? 2hu girls? lucky star girls?..
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>>8130618
20 images assuming 100 repetitions. If you cut down on the steps, you can have a larger dataset, but if you don't do enough repetitions on an image, it's not going to be able to learn the concept very well or at all.
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Does it bug any of you that we are never going to get girlfriends ever again?
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>>8130535
>>8130518
can you try your hand at inori from guilty crown?
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when I gen for the first time, I have to set it to 1 steps, cuz the first gen takes like 300 seconds. tf is wrong with my setup
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>>8130618
I don't know why he mentioned image count, it takes just as long with 20 images as it does with 500.
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>>8130625
The first time it loads the checkpoint and loras from disk, which might take a while if it's not SSD. Step count shouldn't matter though.
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>>8130625
Check you're not running out of VRAM and it's not offloading it onto RAM or disk.
If it is, I've got some bad news for ya buddy....
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>>8130627
oh yea I know about that, it's just the genning that takes 300 secs
>>8130628
8gb vram, but is it really that? after that one of 300 secs, it gens normally. I actually just reduce the resolution and set it to 1 steps to make it faster, but its annoying as fuck doing that manually
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Why some artists let you pull off shit like this and others don't?
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>>8130630
I had that problem when using loras, on forge, and using XL models.
Some gens would gen just fine, others super slow. Sometimes I'd need to gen with a lora once, and then stop it and gen again and it'd go fine.
For me, it was because VRAM was being maxed out and things were being offloaded. If you want to check, go into Nvidia Control Panel and change the "CUDA system fallback policy" to "No system fallback". If you start getting OOM errors when you gen after that, it's because you were running out of VRAM before and things were being offloaded.
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>>8130619
touhou characters are only for Touhou project AI discord server boosters
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>>8130634
thank God im devoted to kagami chan
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its another "ugly man gets mcs love interests" episode
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>>8130636
I wish there were better source materials for Toji from Jujutsu Kaisen so I could generate him with all my ecchi love interests
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>>8130595
>Gonna retrain on the last two timesteps...
Ngl it does starting to look a lot better
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>>8130636
Ugly?
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Is lora block weight broken on reForge?
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>>8130640
he hueg liek xbox
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>>8130619
idk about lucky star specifically, but since i did zero dropout artist and char tags work (artist tags arguably work too well) and yes, it can 2ho. cirno needs work though, it gets the wings wrong, with any luck tag prepro and tag freq loss scaling (once i have time to do a clean reimplementation w/o the tainted NAI stuff) will fix that

>>8130623
no b/c i have a wife

>>8130634
>using the full name with capitalization
couldn't be me senpai
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>>8130643
What about characters like Amaha Masane or Oshino Shinobu, that are two different people under a single booru tag.
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>>8130643
>idk about lucky star specifically
sigh
>unzips easyscripts
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>>8130572
>>8130599
>I don't use this
>nobody should use this
self important much
It's fine if you're not interested in something, but speaking up to tell people that something is bad just because it's inconvenient is such a bad take.
You can just say you don't know how to use it effectively and be done with it instead of trying to pass off your skill issue as a failure of the tech.
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>>8130646
shut the fuck up already
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>>8130649
streisand effect
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any tips avoiding white-ish borders on gens? pic as example. Idk if its low cfg, low step count, or anything really, but my gens sometimes have these washed out borders
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Testing making the iztah based gens more hentaifag friendly
Is this the sepia all the youngsters are hollering about nowdays
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>>8130651
Why not add them post gen? Just a brush tool on Photoshop should be sufficient.
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>>8130654
not actual borders, I meant the smoky effect
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>NIGHTMARE - ALUMINA intensifies
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Anyone knows how to get horns like these? I accidentally got this gen with "animal ears, monster girl" and nothing about horns. Just thought it's pretty cool
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>>8130643
>cirno needs work though
NAI1 could do Cirno with accurate wings.
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>https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/120976771
How are this guys gen are so good? nai?
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>>8130660
pretty sure it is nai
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>>8130660
if you see good-looking AI hentai - its surely NAI
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>>8130660
look closely at the nipple piercings, or her right hand
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>>8130663
he's using BBC jutsu so no follower cares about those fuck ups
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>>8130655
sar?
no this is patrick
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Whys everyone copying Floox nowadays
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You WILL worship the ugly bastard's dick and you WILL be happy
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>>8130669
asurachad... is that you?
>>8130670
i worship yuri, males are gay
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Maybe I should do ugly black bastard implied NTR in Floox style. Can't seem to get any (you)s otherwise, good or bad.
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>>8130657
is she blowing a futa..?
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>>8130672
(You)
here, anon-chan
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>>8130673
disembodied penis is presumed male until proven otherwise
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>>8130671
>asurachad... is that you?

perhaps
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>>8130678
bros we are so back
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Ugly bastards are old and busted. Get with the times.
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>>8130682
Skeletons are also perfect for self inserting.
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>>8130682
Did skele-bro get NTR'd or where did the cum come from
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>>8130685
That is pure calcium, bro.
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>>8130673
She could be...
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>>8130679
Maybe we were never gone
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>>8130688
>never gone
last 20 threads were piss shit though
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>>8130690
>20
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***Cunny alert***
https://files.catbox.moe/fwgsw5.jpg
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>>8130669
>Whys everyone copying Floox nowadays
Because he designs some of the best Nyantcha style AI hentai
but also
https://graphtreon.com/creator/Floox508
Apparently you can make money doing this shit if you are good enough
It's not just shitting out NAI stuff though, I think Floox is a hybrid artist who also touches up his gens on Photoshop or CSP after making them which is why he can gen girls with accurate designs that normal generators miss
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>>8130692
based
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>>8130693
>think Floox is a hybrid artist who also touches up his gens on Photoshop or CSP after making them which is why he can gen girls with accurate designs that normal generators miss
or just uses inpaint at least a little bit unlike other blacked sloppers. other than that his shit is not impressive. I mean the artist mix is not bad if this nyantcha shit didn't feel so overused
NAI knows popular characters quite well, you can usually do even small details with some inpainting. He's just an early adopter of something that turned out to be wildly popular (sadly).
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>>8130695
lol not impressive? If it's not impressive then you do better. You probably can't, which is why you fling shit at other prompters with no pic of your own.
But that's fine I'm sure your patreon numbers are higher than his.
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>>8130699
>you do better.
he don't wanna embarrass himself with ponyslop, thats why he is a nogen
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tfw responded to a bait
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>>8130699
the only impressive thing about his slop is how many niggers he's able to slop out every day and not shoot himself
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>>8130690
That bad huh?
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>>8130705
It's a clean style, doesn't leave much to be fixed with inpaint. But finding it was a one-time effort.

captcha NGAY
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I have ~15k images from booru with my favorite artists (names removed) that I want to use as a mix of styles.

Is a LoRA or somekind of finetune the way to use this best?
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>>8130706
yeah
/ic/ raids, schizo influx, known fags being outed for petty reasons (seems like by same schizos), vacations for non-cunny posts, extensive falseflagging
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Floox is a nobody compared to Mirham and iceflowerart. He's a B+ ranked BBC grifter at Best
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the images that I post that are overwhelming most popular are not based on style but on making the most popular characters
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>>8130710
I will defer to your expertise on this matter anon
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>>8130711
you'd triple your precious views if you added black penis to your gens :)
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>>8130709
Thats rough
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>>8130709
hdg was never good
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>>8130711
Sure but that doesn't explain the popularity of miqo and cathag, them being thread OCs.
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>>8130716
popularity? are they popular outside of this shithole?
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>>8130713
I really don't actually think this has the impact 4chaners obsessed with black cock think it has, someone like ratatatata is popular despite his obsession with black dick not because of it and if anything normies find it weird and annoying


>>8130716
I mean not on 4chan, pixiv charts
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>>8130717
This shihole is what matters to me
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>>8130710
>look them up
>its endless posts of [Insert popular anime girl] with a black dick in their face

And people say my stuff is too samey
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>>8130716
>explain the popularity

get real niqqa its one dude spamming his fat bitch everywhere
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>>8130710
>mirham
Oh nice, I think he's the one that did the Saeko set I saw on r34.xxx
>>8130705
>whining about blacked/niggers in 2024
Ah so that's what this really is about. it must suck being racist and letting dick color turn you into...this, lol
I bet you get mad seeing hip hop music videos too
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>>8130718
don't compare actual artists to ai sloppers retard. ratat has actually good quality art.
ai sloppers are only good as long as they shit out fotm characters, preferably with the fetish of choice that being ntr for 90% of paypig retards.
refinement quality has very, very little impact on popularity and revenue when we talk about ai. I mean, up to a certain extent. but people don't give a shit about inaccurate character details, fried eyes and 7 fingers as long as it's their fetish with the favorite oc
inb4 icfag
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>>8130718
Artists slowly collect followers just by doing their one thing. Like there's a guy that draws those "booba" cartoon bulging eyes instead of ahegao. And he's been doing it for a decade.

It's just that AI artists switch styles and concepts frequently, and lose people every time they do.
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>>8130719
>This shihole is what matters to me
that's cute but it's only 3 fags spamming their ocs with couple of ironic gooners praising them, one of them being me occasionally
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>>8130646
derrian's stuff uses kohya's trainer underneath and it has zero support for our custom shit; I need to get lora support into neurosis at some point, ideally before real release (or just wait for kohya to implement it and pray they don't mess it up)

>>8130645
they put two characters under one tag? h-uh. don't have a fix for that at the moment, will look into it. do you know of any more cases where one tag != one character?

>>8130648
dirty hacks are dirty hacks, anon. just because it seems to work doesn't mean it's a good idea / doesn't have negative side-effects

>>8130659
yeah i consider it a major failing of the test model, might be animagine TE related idk but definitely on the to-fix list
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>>8130725
yes
I am the fourth
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>>8130726
>they put two characters under one tag? h-uh. don't have a fix for that at the moment, will look into it. do you know of any more cases where one tag != one character?
with nai it will usually get the character you want if you start describing it with hair color, outfit, etc, and it will get it right most of the time. use negs if necessary to prevent feature bleed
with 2 characters with similar names but different series it is sorted out by using the copyright tag
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>>8130723
>with the favorite fotm *
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>>8130670
very good, I love this one
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>>8130726
Neggles-chan, how long will you train the proper model for? NAIv3 trained for more than base SDXL if to believe the words of NAI devs
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I love technology
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>>8130685
It's magic. I don't gotta explain shit.
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2 onee-san's cucking you by playing a video of them getting dicked down and making you watch
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should I inpaint, then upscale
Or upscale, then inpaint?
or just both
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>>8130742
inpaint before upscale for big anatomy/scene changes
inpaint after upscales for fixing and improving details
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>>8130740
rope yourself
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>>8130740
very hot, catbox?
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imagine being this obvious
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>>8130740
kick shotafaggot in the balls throw him out and take the bitches
t. ugly bastard
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>>8130750
but anon, they're busy
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>>8130742
always upscale last
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>>8130662
this, every time
unfortunately...
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>>8130726
you have hinted previously at sekret base models being made beyond cosXL and the chinese stuff we have now. you probably cant reveal anything, but do they seem significantly promising enough for a future finetune?
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Does this look like drachef's style to you?
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>>8130639
i wanna fuck her navel.
release soon...?
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>>8130767
its looks like pony
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>>8130767
what a retarded outfit to go to the beach
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>>8130769
Yeah, I feel like the Lora isn't activating properly
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>>8130767
Looks like base autismmix with too many score tags. Try dropping all of them except score_5_up, and optionally source_anime too.
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>>8130771
that's just pony for you
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>>8130767
stop testing style loras with score tags ffs
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>>8130574
As someone who has done this already outfits are good, can subdivide with gloves, tops, bottoms etc. Eyes are good; pupils, colors, etc. Make sure you do one for hair with bangs specifically cause any sort of hair back stuff gives a ton of forehead. And charas is just an endless rest I keep finding stuff I didn't know would work like half breed pokemon girls and other shit. But going back to your original some ideas
>Eyes with sub cards
>breasts - nipple types, piercings, size etc
I'll try arrancar I've wanted cool masks since masks suck in pony. Another neat one I've tried is "Abyssal ships" like kancolle catch all tag makes some cool pale monsters
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>>8130776
what yinlin lora is that?
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>>8130777
I made it other day. Might remake the changli is kinda cooked it's either perfect or picks up some random donut oc girl so I dunno if there's some weird tag overlap.
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>B-sama called neggles a disgusting tranny
>This is all the motivation I need to report this troon for namefagging
If B-sama didn't approve, neither do I!
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How has this general fallen so hard we're accepting a tranny frequently namefagging ITT to say absolutely nothing of substance? This HRT addled fag hasn't even trained anything yet and came here to advertise a unbaked prototype future bakes will be completely different from? Was xir not getting enough discord attention? Telling their typing style is the exact same as the astroturfed wd shilling earlier in the month. Doesn't help they sound like a less educated Astracookie and are expecting everyone else to come up with solutions to their unsupported model after they picked some retarded training specs that made it unsupported by everything. DOA and never arriving.
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looks like he's awake again
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>>8130768
The "release" isn't happening because the colors are still fucked immensely and I have no actual idea how to fix them. But I guess I'll upload this one to civit because why not.
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>>8130784
>the colors are still fucked immensely
looks like anatomy is too if this gen is anything indicative
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>>8130782
How will this affect Jordachcoins?
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>>8130779
well good job on getting the hair right, I didnt think the ai could understand that considering how bad the other yinlin lora are
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>>8130782
How has this general fallen so hard we're accepting a furry frequently namefagging ITT to say absolutely nothing of substance? This HRT addled fag hasn't even trained anything yet and came here to advertise a unbaked prototype future bakes will be completely different from? Was sir not getting enough discord attention? Telling their typing style is the exact same as the astroturfed wd shilling earlier in the month. Doesn't help they sound like a less educated Astracookie and are expecting everyone else to come up with solutions to their unsupported model after they picked some retarded training specs that made it unsupported by everything. DOA and never arriving.
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neggles will win. carefully planning the best settings for years to guarantee the highest quality bake.
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>>8130792
Was neggles in charge of previous WD models?
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>>8130786
Didn't notice that arm lol, but anatomy is generally preserved from neta and guweiz makes it a lot better for some reason.
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>>8130788
It took a while like the 2nd to last saved epoch was when it got it consistently. Her hair isn't comolicated just has a lot going on. Changli was making me mad at how weird the behavior was so just remake it tonight and see. Been trying to catch up on some newer gacha sluts was checking wuwa and zzz.
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>>8130794
>guweiz makes it a lot better for some reason.
doesn't look like guweiz to me but not surprising that high quality artists make anatomy more solid, same thing happens with nai and other models that know artist tags.
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>two promising juniors battle it out to be NAI's next hire
saas cannot stop winning
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>>8130798
neggles has a job already
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>>8130795
Do you host your stuff anywhere?
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>>8130798
why can't anyone fucking strike nai down
for cp or copyright or something
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Its for some reason really funny that an ai can know that Asagi has that type of cockroach hair
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>>8130801
someone from here already did
I really wouldn't want this to happen before a proper xl anime model gets released
i'd rather rope than use ponyslop
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>>8130797
>doesn't look like guweiz to me
Because it's a mix, guweiz alone without any negatives would look like this. Still far from a perfect match to me though.
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>>8130800
Yeah I got a mega in hdg repo if you want I'll upload them later think I got some more loras sitting around; I haven't uploaded anything in a while.
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY WONT NAI JUST CRUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!!
freetards have cracked, it's actually over for them. the consensus has shifted against pony so hard they can't even keep up the facade
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>>8130803
but that's how progress is made
is where nobody has a straight winner
all need to eat pony shit
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I accepted the furfags
I accepted the bronies
I accepted the /fit/ roastie
I'm drawing the line at a troon who dodges important questions and shits up the thread. It's not even a hentai model by xir own admission and we're projecting animagine tier at best, can't train loras for it, isn't supported by anything. Come back when we can actually see a hentai image and I'll reconsider, otherwise rope troonggles
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>>8130806
Would be cool, ty
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>>8130793
no
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>>8130802
but she doesn't
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>>8130809
It was over when you accepted the furfags. You're now sliding down the slippery slope and there's no stopping.
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>>8130808
I mean on the off-chance that someone leaks v3 when it all goes tumbling down for them it would be good
v3 is severely limited by saas garbage, like not only loras but the controlnet, the resolutions, the gacha point trash
but at this point I have little faith in local bakers delivering in a reasonable timeframe
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>>8130816
nothing ever happens
burn it all down
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>>8130816
V3 will just disappear with them. The first leak was a hack.
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>>8130815
It was a costly mistake but I've learned my lesson a thousand times over
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>muh v3
I'll shitpost her until I get a transformer model with some moe sprinkled on top. Fuck unet, fuck Clip and fuck laion
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>>8130745
I don't think that's where you're supposed to attach the lead.
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>>8130822
Neggles is already a transformer, and I'm sure their dataset has enough moe.
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>>8130816
>>8130818
lel, that will never happen, at most they'll just block loli, which i have no interest in. Id rather pay than using any local model. You might as well draw the images yourself if you need 20 hours of training to get one good image out of an model
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My deepest hope is not for a good model, as only newfags could look at the foundation for WD and think it'd turn out as anything other than animagine, but for neggles to kill xirself. One less tranny is already doing the world a greater good than any half assed model can do for local. Speaks for itself that even the WD discordfags spend all day wishing for a Nai leak over expecting dilator here to bake something good.
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>>8130827
>at most they'll just block loli
Looking at an average pixiv AI upload I'm sure this will not lead to their revenue collapsing.
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>>8130818
I know
it's not a completely impossible scenario but yeah very unlikely
it's just that it really feels like local v3 would be pretty much enough to do nice animeslop for years
you don't need dalle v3 level comprehension to do animeshit
>>8130827
Or block nsfw and artist tags
or get disconnected from payment processors
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>>8130827
why does it keep giving her those weird hair strands... she doesn't have those in the hentai are they canon in some other source?
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>>8130828
post a gen
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>>8130833
NTA
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>>8130832
nigga, you are literally retarded, she has this in literally every game
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>>8130836
I've never played the games, only watched the hentai. horrible design choice desu.
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>>8130828
rent free
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>>8130833
YWNBAW
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>reposts
>m.jpg
Ah so it's the falseflagger from yesterday already ban evading
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>>8130838
Hardly living in anyone's headwhen they've been namefagging all thread.
>>8130840
Not my post.
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>>8130835
How did you get such a nice innie pussy anon?
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>>8130842
What do you mean, innies are the only ones you can generate without problem on any model? Tag if "cleft of venus".
It's the detailed spread ones that are a bitch.
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>>8130840
troll or not they're right. if we let trannys namefag and shill here its only going to get worse, look at places like /g/ and the text threads here will feel like a blessing in contrast. they ruin every space they're in, why welcome them with open arms because they're trying to make Animagine on Cosxl? like, no joke, that's literally what's been described?
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>>8130807
the fact is that v3 can just disappear into nothingness and all we'd be left is p*ny
this is just sad reality of saas trash
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>>8130845
xhe's claims are that hentai is not the primary focus but it'a there
animagine's main issues is limited dataset and severe undercook
wdv will be theoretically better than that
even if it's slightly worse at sex than pony it's an acceptable outcome for character and artist knowledge ootb and proper anime aesthetic
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>>8130849
yeah we'll finally get a proper /h/ local model, not sure if its gonna be possible to revert damage caused to /hdg/ residents, pony exposure is lethal after all
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>>8130849
that's extreme hopium, if anything ever even releases. they don't even have a working prototype yet, expecting it to be more cooked than animagine is already too much for me. we've seen what troongle's aesthetic choices are on top of that and it's not pretty. this topic is lukewarm /e/ at best and has no place here.
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>>8130852
Nah, you're projecting your hopes for a proper /h/ model. This thing isn't going to be any more capable of /h/ than animagine is with the dataset and captioning they're using and God knows what else tranny fucks up. Sorry, man, we all want free of pony but this ain't gonna be our saviour
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>>8130856
is neggles actually a tranny? he said he's married
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I like pony enough, won't switch until something non sdxl based comes along
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>troon bad
i get it but all we have left is furrytard with unpruned, non-curated dataset with way shittier aesthetic choices, some smart hacker guy leaking NAI or going back to ef+hll
>>8130858
you'll enjoy /aco/ then
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>>8130849
>artist knowledge
Yeah, about that...

Yes, I'm aware that gemba is easily one of the most degenerate out there and I probably wouldn't even prompt for him, but this is to drive a point about le "nothing is lost from pruning gold", danbooru has 2.5 times fewer images and 19 out of 20 is gold? Great stuff.
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>>8130768
https://civitai.com/models/615476
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I don't even think neggles is acting obnoxious desu, some communication about the model progress is good?
inb4 dilate
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>>8130863
It's just our local schizo having another meltdown and samefagging himself, you can mostly ignore him and he'll eventually get bored.
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somebody start a finetunes so we can berate them with insults when it isn't done yet
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>>8130857
For all we know xe married another troon. Xe is not biologically female yet xe refers to xirself as she, you do the math. Considering xhey are a narcissistic attentionwhore xhey fit the tranny archetype to a T already
>>8130859
Just because the other options are also shit doesn't mean we have to support this one
>>8130863
What communication? Xhey avoided all the important questions and just attentionwhored about unimportant crap. It's not even progressing, if you want that level of retardation sign up for trooncord. Read back over xheir posts and tell me this inspires confidence of someone who knows what they're doing, then also keep in mind xhey are brain damaged with regular HRT doses
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>>8130860
Let's add to this that the ones that aren't under gold will be enough to get that retard Australian behind bars anyway so his point about fearing the law is complete bullshit.
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>>8130860
Soulworker more like Sexworker
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>>8130865
doesn't really fit the schizo profile desu
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>>8130860
well yeah you can't always get what you want sadly
I checked some hebeloli artists I enjoy like 40010prototype and it seems like there'd be enough stuff without gold even (interestingly 40010 is pretty bad on nai for some reason)
most likely issue I can predict is lolis aging up with sex prompts similarly to pony, but we'll see
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>>8130836
not in the gachas at least, or the timeskip
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>>8130860
>gemba is easily one of the most degenerate out there
woah, faggot
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>>8130868
if they still it here with 0 real progress and namefag blog, I absolutely will. show up with substance or shut the fuck up, simple as
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>>8130877
yeah you better not shit this pristine text thread up
>>
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>>8130878
i'll take text threads over mentally ill faggots blogging any day, thanks for understanding
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>>8130880
then start posting gens
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>>8130882
you can take the lead any time if you care so much, faggot. I have no problem with relevant text discussion
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upside down shark
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>>8130882
i would, but pony is so fucking ugly and i have some dignity not to post eyebleaching stuff unlike some of /hdg/ ponyslop posters...
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>>8130884
Okay, I take my post above back. Maybe it's not always easy to get a good innie. This post clearly managed to fuck it up somehow.
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>>8130889
sharks hatch from eggs so there would be no umbilical cord
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>>8130892
It's sad I have to question if you're retarded or if this is a genius level joke
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>>8130892
Pussy, anon, innie pussy, not the missing navel.
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>>8130890
I'm pretty sure this is the only anon who has consistently posted here in a unique style through every garbage thread since we started using pony. This is a man who has seen some shit
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>>8130883
>>8130886
>no u
lame
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>>8130896
He trained a lora on base pony and he prompts on base pony. I wonder why could his style possibly be so unique and different from 5000 loras used with autismmix................. HUH
Not that his style didn't get just as tiresome throughout the months he's posting with it.
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>>8130896
>unique
It's like 80% shirow.
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>>8130903
No shit but no one else is using him in their gens, so it's recognizable as a single poster vs someone who posts a bunch of different styles. Fucking autists man
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>>8130904
so hes an avatarfag then?
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>>8130899
his style is borderline /aco/ but still miles better than miqo shit
its sad that pony can't just have moe /h/ style without sepia and cartoon thick-lined smear
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>>8130905
You're the kind of guy who tries to talk in a group and there's either an awkward silence before everyone moves on or he is just flat out ignored, aren't you?
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>>8130908
It can, but no effort genners actually like moeshit.
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>>8130909
Erotic.
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>>8130910
so thats a yes
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>>8130912
>It can
proof?
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>>8130904
I guess that's good? Unique is some shitmix of artists that somehow works he's just the shirow guy.
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When training a character lora, what's a good ratio of alternate outfits to not have the clothes the character wears the most bleed into stuff like swimsuits?
1/5? Half?
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>>8130915
phoneposting but try this https://civitai.com/images/21874266
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>>8130912
Depends what you find cute. Like a pure cutesy style usually leans I to chibi / toon anyway. Mods she's a thousand year old dragon older sister onegai
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>>8130920
He just wants shutenanon's style obviously,
load up bkrrnaimix and do 1girl cleft of venus
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>>8130920
There's something wrong with this place if you fear a vacation for this hag with hips wider then mine put together 3 times.
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>>8130918
Depends sometimes you can't help. Half or third is probably safe but then it can associate that outfit with the chara, like if you prompt shorts on Hilda your probably getting her cutoffs because she's always with them. A workaround kinda is using a lower epoch and feature prompting the character more to avoid the clothing bleed.
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>>8130917
>some shitmix of artists that somehow works
If you look at his prompts they are a weird shitmix of artists, shirow is just an incredibly strong style. He was posting oni, goblin and elf girls for a while that were less distinctly shirow but still clearly that poster. Still beyond the point that you retards are autistic over a word choice when the actual meaning was not only clear but then explained and you're still hung up on it
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>>8130918
The simpler they are and the better you tag them, the less bleed you'll get. You could also just have her naked, as the alternate outfits may bleed too. Even into her main outfit.
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>>8130921
where has he been anyway? he always had the best images in the threads and havent seen him around
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>>8130923
>>8130925
I'll try that next time with a third then.
Thanks anons.
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>>8130874
Unless I'm confusing him with someone else he came to their discord once and complained about his tag being undertrained.
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shutenanon nai mix lora when?
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>>8130919
>shitmerge
>style lora with "I mean, I dont know why but they think my lora have some 'problem', however, I dont think so." ESL description
>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up,source_anime,anatomically correct,best perspective
i mean it works?
>>8130921
>shutenanon's style
its fine but too cunny, i'd just like to have any jap style without pony thicklined shit which is impossible it seems like
>>8130927
probably got fed up with constant vacations and left
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>>8130930
imagine how many images we would never post if we had access to such a thing
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>>8130931
If it's just thick lines you hate, there's a slider lora for it. >>8094886
And my test at +2/-2 strength >>8094908
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what are good settings for RAUnet? it seems more technically reliable than kohya hires fix but i'm not a huge fan of how it's changing the image style in comparison
>>8130918
it depends on the tokens you use for the main outfit more than anything so you're probably best off just experimenting with different ratios and tokens
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>>8130931
we REALLY need 16ch vae or we'll be stuck with these messy lines/destroyed eyes
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>>8130935
Would be a sloppa though just like all tponynai-like finetunes. Even if you got the artstyle close it wouldn't work without nai's superior composition.
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local dalle just dropped
blackforestlabs.ai
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>>8130942
let me guess 192gb vram reqs?
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>>8130944
seems like you're getting "light" (shit) version for local and access to full size through API
SAAS
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>>8130942 >>8130944
>FLUX.1 [schnell] is a 12 billion parameter rectified flow transformer capable of generating images from text descriptions.
I mean, if their smallest model is 12b, I don't think anyone here will be able to run it.
And examples on their website are probably all from closed-source gigantic [pro] version anyway.
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>>8130941
>Superior composition
>Posts loli, black bikini, the pose, featureless beach
Naiggers are just so tiresome
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>>8130945
best one is saas but the open-weight ones are great too
you can test it on their spaces for "free" but afaik it's already available for comfy
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>>8130942
>12b params
AHAHAHAH GET FUCKED POORJEETS >>8123901
finally, a model not held back by india.
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>>8130942
Not bad. This is the best local non-SD model I've seen so far.
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>>8130924
K I get it your fangirling chill I'm sorry it's the best style to grace this board
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i might need to remind you that nothing ever happens
just in case
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>>8130951
I heckin love backgrounds
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troongles was part of the team that trained this model btw
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>>8130947
I know your vision becomes blurry and red when you see a loli, sorry about that.
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>>8130942
Still fucks up writing here and then but sometimes it works.
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>>8130962
oh nyo a signature
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>>8130942
let me guess: it's going paypig-only in a week
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>>8130962
so far the open-weight model feels on par with dalle
at times better
>>8130969
you can literally download it now
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>>8130942
How to run it in comfy?
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>>8130961
It's just always the same. Naiggers go on and on about superior composition and creativity and whatnot but never post any images. Then at the end of a 3 thread meltdown they link you a tangling dongfe whatever megumin with mangled hands. There's nothing wrong with only liking certain styles, but stop being so obnoxiously elitist about it.
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>>8130942
>No trainings code
>Distilled version
Lol
ABANDON ALL HOPE
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>>8130942
AAAAND it's fucking pruned. No nsfw. At least no good nsfw
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>>8130988
still more anime than the majority of images in this threa-
>black nails
ah nevermind, goth is /aco/
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>available for commercial use
Ponybros...
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>>8130988
nobody expected titties from a base model desu
test its coherence
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pony v7 on this new slop
we're so back ponysissies
more gpo's with ceses SOON
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>>8130988
Great, another toy model I'll fuck around with for a couple of days and never touch again.
NAIv4 when? Proper txt2vid when (think Sora or Luma but NSFW)? Another local lighting-in-a-bottle model when?
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Best pov blowjob lora for pony?
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>>8130999
it knows it natively you can do pov, fellatio
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>>8130942
this shit's DOA
https://files.catbox.moe/q87if3.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cj45gs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/5d3bha.png
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>>8130979
Non-distilled weights are also available.
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Yeah, I mean it looks nice and all, but honestly I have absolutely zero faith in any fine tuners these days, considering how badly they fucked up. Yeah, I cannot see how you introduce any concept. From what I have seen, the majority of fine tuners, aka people that try to modify a model, are just using damn brutal images and throw them all, no matter the quality, no matter the coherence. Somebody that actually tunes models correctly and knows what they're doing. And the problem is, the second they know what they're doing, they're most likely bought up. I have hopes, but as far as I can see, there's no training code and there's also nothing really that can actually make this possible. At least I can't see anything.

People forget that sdxl STILL had some nude images in its training data. Has anyone ever turned a censored model into a useable nsfw one that wasn't worse than sd1.5 tunes?
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i dont understand why people care about models you can't custom, or create loras from.

That's a waste of time becasue it's a dead end.
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>>8130942
score_9_up when?
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>>8130962
Tried the yoga mat test on the [dev] model (second largest, I think that's the biggest openly avaliable).
I don't think it's very good.
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>>8130624
Oh, turns out reweik more or less recognize her, why is she and IA tagged so badly tho, what kind of curse is this, I'll try to do some /h/ gens with her
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>>8130942
Our neggles sama is part of their team. She worked on this instead of WDV, how do we feel about this
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>>8131008
The model is a major step-up from sdxl slop coherency-wise, it's a BASE model. You can prompt 4komas if you try hard enough. You can prompt screen contents of the phone/computer, all the things that stabilityshit always choked on and dalle was able to do.
Isn't local dalle what you all wanted?
The only major thing actually missing right now is training code unless I'm blind.
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>>8131019
>23b
>local
I mean. Very technically.
Maybe in like, 2-3 years. If we're lucky.
(spoiler: we're probably not going to be lucky)
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>>8130942
How long until an anime NSFW finetune comes out?
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>>8130942
does this shit requires at least 24gb of VRAM to work
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>>8131021
>no training code
never lol
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>>8131022
Just to load the weights, you need space for activations too.
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Time for image gen tards to quantize like llm bros have been doing
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>>8131020
It's 12B, no?
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>>8131027
finally, /lmg/ bros can taste proper imagegen on their 4x4090 setups
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>>8131029
Should be runnable under 16g of vram, maybe even 12gb. Quantization :)
But this shit aint ever gonna get tuned anyway
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>>8131029
er yeah it's 12b.
model is 23.8GB though.
Point and timeline still pretty much stands, though.

Though I also really doubt this actually needs to be 12b. From what I can tell it's very largely the VAE that's doing a lot of heavy lifting since it's at least 16channel to get coherent text.
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>>8131014
I think the problem is it wasn't trained on any real quality anime images. I get much better results with the yoga mat prompt using 3dpd. I hope they release some training data, this has potential.
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Now bad BUT I DO NOT see any real reason why this would be better than anything we currently have. There is basically one style for anime, exactly 0 sexual poses, 0 nipples and 0 dicks. Good fucking luck using that for anything other but shit posts about Indians. Retards can't tune the slop look away from models, now im supposed to believe this model will magically solve it? Discussion models are not magic, if you dump a quadrillion images into it it will just become shit again.
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>>8130988
is this what it gives you at base? i mean that's about the same lewdity as 1.5 and sdxl's base, no?
overall i think the model is a better base model than the others, but is it 3-4x the parameters better? i dont think so, it looks about on-par with hunyuan and the other chinese slop to emerge. it gives me autocaptioned synthetic vibes, i can just see that generic captions applied to everything, styles getting lost in the process. i think these recent models lack a lot of grit, everything looks vectorized and airbrushed, they lack that detail that even dall-e has. this is my test prompt i did on sd3 (not this model) vs dall-e, "portrait of Princess Peach in the style of Rembrandt". i have yet to see an emerging local base model actually nail the detail that dall-e can do despite all the gimmick text garbage and 'user preference surveys' they try to shill.
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Photo of Criminal in a ski mask making a phone call in front of a store. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "It's time to Counter the Strike...". There is a red arrow pointing towards the caption. The red arrow is from a Red circle which has an image of Halo Master Chief in it.
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>>8131040
wrong pic but thats another good dall-e one i like with a painted style these new models seem to completely fail it. they just lack artistry and look generic and boring
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>>8131042
the fuck? that's super good isn't?
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FASTER FASTER I WANNA BE KEKED WITH MY 3090
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>>8131042
Pretty impressive to get the case sensitivity on top of getting all the text correct
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>>8131042
thank you for posting an actually good comprehension test image
I understand that it's a hentai board but jumping straight to "CAN IT DO BOOBIES PUSSY" when it's obvious that it's going to be somewhat pruned in a base model is fucking dumb as fuck
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>>8131044
It's far beyond any other local model when it comes to prompt adherence/etc, fun to play with if you enjoyed making memes with dall-e kek
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>>8131039
This nigga never heard of an architecture
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>>8131047
The problem is that you can't do shit with it without training code.
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>>8131048
thiiiis it's so far behind pony diffusion! can it do cathag gangbang with chromatic aberration? it's trash
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>>8131051
yeah but I think they will release the training code, not immediately though
not like it's going to be easy to train on it
2.6b sdxl is already a major pain in the ass for localfags to finetune
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>>8131047
Now if it could only do nsfw...
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>>8131040
You just subscribe to what I think about all these emerging models. They are trash. They are basically, in theory, following the prompt that you give, but there is zero artistic style. It's always "hmm, I guess that's somewhat following my prompt, yeah" And that's it. Look at MidJourney. You are blown away sometimes by the artistic shit it does. Dalle, in my opinion actually got worse because of the censorship but still it is better and can create some good things here and there, despite it being objectively bad, in my opinion. Now, the problem is, I want something that looks good. Who's making this? Astalite? Basically all models till now have literally just been a base model with a lora baked in. Pony is quite literally THE only advancement that came out. And I honestly don't like the look. I get a lot of "it's a good base model" okay, then who is fixing the base model? I will not get hyped and disappointed again, that happened now like 5 times.
1. Where's the trainings code?
2. The model has no idea where pussy and nipple should be. Who is training into that model functioning sex poses?
3. We have the worse model as open weight
And the final one
4. WHO will train it? Who manages to train good models?
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>>8131048
I think it's better than dalle desu
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>>8131057
Real and true, these models all look like synthetic slop. Who gives a fuck if you can put a red triangle on top of a blue square when it looks like shit.
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>>8131043
Kek actually a good one; I wanted a painting of princess peach but forgot to write it as a style, so it gave me a painting of peach lel
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>>8131057
Are there any good-looking models other than Midjourney, in your opinion?
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>>8131053
Since it's gonna be a bitch to finetune and even more of a bitch to run, I was mostly thinking in terms of NAI basing their next model on it.
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>>8131057
sdxl was really a shitty base but like you said, nobody is training on these so we'll never know. astralite is still on sdxl. cascade is well... still on cascade 1b which might be the worst sai base model ever released. wdv is still on modified xl. i've seen so much shouting about 'pixart' and all these other models to finally kill sai but it just reminds me of all those shoddy 1-off mmos that were made to 'kill WoW', everyone just goes back to what they know.
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>>8131057
How can you hang out here all the time but never bother to read a paper? Click the random button on gelbooru for artistic images that don't follow your prompt
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>>8131061
Once you've seen enough MidJourney images, they all have a slop look to them. No model is safe from the curse, which is why inkcels will win in the end.
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>>8131061
Dalle is on comparison somewhat good. Nai is good for hentai (and only for that). Yes. Midjourney is basically the only model that produces things that make me say "that looks amazing". Everything else? No. And I mean, what DO we have? All models besides midjourney and dalle (yes even nai) fall apart if they're not doing THE ONE THING they're "good" at. I have a MJ sub. Post the image that you think looks amazing sone with a local model, I'll use mj on it. I have a feeling MJ will look better.
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>>8130971
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/flux/
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>>8131065
It's hard to deny that the slop is getting less and less noticeable though? Compare nai1 outputs to niji/nai3 or hell, even brushed out pony images. Yes the slop is visible if you get used to it but it used to be much, much worse. The improvements are quite obvious in a relatively short time.
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>>8131066
>I have a MJ sub.
do you use it for some sort of work?
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>>8131066
>fall apart if they're not doing THE ONE THING they're "good" at
Isn't that kind of the whole point of a model though. Wouldn't it be an enormous waste of time and resources to try to generate a universal model that could do literally everything until compute power catches up in a decade or so
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>>8131061
nta but i've used midjourney probably more than anyone itt for work. there is no base model that even gets close to the aesthetic level. the model takes 40+ gb of vram to run to be fair.
the reason that it's so 'aesthetic' is because it's an art-first model. there was a controversy earlier because the creator openly admitted to scraping artists and even compiled a list of many artists in the dataset. they also do compound style classification. here's a link to the 'leaked doc' containing many of the artists and styles https://web.archive.org/web/20231231203837/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MEglfejpqgVcaf-I-cgZ5ngV_MlaOTeGXAoBPJO69FM/htmlview
the prompt comprehension and fine-limb rendering are admittedly quite garbage but i'm confident in saying that there aren't any models available that come close artistically.
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>>8131069
New "base models" are being trained on literal synthetic slop, with styles being removed due to copyright/legal concerns. NAI3 is an exception and they will eventually be forced to fold on this, there's a reason they pruned artist tags from their furry model.
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>23GB
None of y'all can even run the stripped base model.
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>>8131073
styles are also being removed thanks to autocaptions. information in the scraped data is just being completely discarded in favor of "a detailed artistic illustration of a girl wearing a..."
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https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/flux/
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>>8131079
Can you try this prompt another anon posted?

Photo of Criminal in a ski mask making a phone call in front of a store. There is caption on the bottom of the image: "It's time to Counter the Strike...". There is a red arrow pointing towards the caption. The red arrow is from a Red circle which has an image of Halo Master Chief in it.
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>>8131079
And holy shit, it's just 4 steps, takes 4 seconds to gen
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>>8131080
Ohhhhhghhhhhh mistress all this talk was getting tiring thank you for rewarding your pathetic slave with your milkies
*starts sucking nipples and gooning*
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>>8131086
I got a 4090 with 64g of ram, gonna download this and try it out if it's really that fast.
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>>8131060
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Kek, got past the filter with some crappy nami nipples.
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>>8131089
holy shit it actually worked lmao
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>>8131090
>pony is not sepia guys
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>>8131089
Are you using the dev or schnell model?
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>>8131079
Is it for schnell?
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>>8131094
>>8131095
schnell
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It almost passes solid background test
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>>8131098
Pony could never...
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4090fag who can run the dev version reporting. i'll take prompt reqursts. this thing seems slow as fuck, 30 seconds to run cumrag's basic 20 step 1024x1024 prompt
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>>8131101
I mean it's possible to do test prompts on their test spaces for now
what's interesting is how it performs
does it take a long time to load?
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>>8131101
>20 step
Unironically unnecessary, this is 8 steps >>8131096
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>>8131101
Close up of girl with big titties. Or close up of loli with flat chest.
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>>8131098
Whoa
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>>8131101
>basic 20 step
you don't need 20 steps
4-8 seems to be enough
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>>8131101
Photo of an african american man holding a sign that says "KFC" standing on top of a giant chicken in the middle of a street
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>>8131061
nta, no kek. the bet way i can describe the way the model feel to me is that that the creators are trying to "get the prompt on the screen" in any way possible. They dont give a shit about art, or even if it looks good, in any capacity. Midjourney? Art. You type in random numbers and you get ART. For example here:

>emtpy realm with a weak dark sun shining:
https://litter.catbox.moe/4ynhqx.png
>demon lord, , evil,
https://litter.catbox.moe/5bf0w3.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/dq7ktt.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/8sn4u9.png
>wolf made out of shadows, evil, mad look, insanity, shadows twisting around wolf, dark and gloomy art, scribble style,
https://litter.catbox.moe/8w6tz0.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/12w6j1.png
>Anthropic sun, twisted smile painting
https://litter.catbox.moe/xsb4rh.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/av14cn.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/e5u1yf.png
>knight in a forest with warm sunlight, gloomy mood, dark atmosphere from behind view
https://litter.catbox.moe/6fjvky.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/l3yovg.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/m27nle.png
>Ring made out of gold in the shape of a dragon
https://litter.catbox.moe/smx2bl.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/0cvdye.png


These are just basic images. I know people will cope but most here have no idea how fucking primitive local open source model are in comparison to closed source models
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>>8131103
it seems to be unloading it every prompt when trying to decode the vae and sometimes it can kick the prompt time up to 2 mins. i cant say for sure though because every modern goyapp consumes excessive amounts of vram including web browsers so maybe i just need to restart
>>8131105
>close up of an anime girl with large breasts, cleavage
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CFG doesn't work with it so we don't have a negative prompt...
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it can pizza...
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>>8131110
That's nice and all but models don't get benchmarked on how artistic they are. A good model follows the prompt to the letter and adds nothing that was not prompted. A good model would give you a random number on a white background if you prompt for that.
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bros why cant my porn tool create art?
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>>8131109
https://files.catbox.moe/6s6yg1.png
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>>8131120
>https://files.catbox.moe/6s6yg1.png
holy shit lmaoooooo
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>>8131119
skill issue.
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>>8131117
>had to check
>it's true
For fucks sakes.
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>>8131071
>Wouldn't it be an enormous waste of time and resources to try to generate a universal model that could do literally everything until compute power catches up in a decade or so
This is the reason text models need to be so much bigger. They have to be universal, because text can go anywhere. A text model that only can say "boobs tits pussy" isn't useful at all. They have to be universal.
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>>8131125
I'm not disagreeing, I'm more just asking if it's something that's even worth doing at this point. It really seems like there are way too many technical limitations to try to train a universal model instead of one specialized in a specific area even if that specialization causes shortcomings across the board.
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>>8131056
prone bone her
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>>8131117
That seems like a very massive fuck up on their part.
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I have the card for it but not the 23gb drive space
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>>8131117
but can it do anime?
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>>8131126
Ai companies don't want to curate training Data since it takes time and is expensive. So they come up with shit like TTT and moe to increase the parameter count instead.
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>>8131118
alright lmao, there is a "raw" and stylize 0 option.
Btw, does that mean there is a model that follows better than mj? Can you replicate what i made? you just disassembled your own argument, all my images did exactly like i said.
here: have a Superman laughing with red eyes holding a bag of pills and a cat
>https://litter.catbox.moe/fglrcf.png
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>>8131128
It just seems like the more competent the model is, the more likely it will be able to figure out how to make pizza with just some children photos
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>>8131132
not with pizza
https://files.catbox.moe/4jfd6k.png
can't even do manga properly
https://files.catbox.moe/6oc4yz.png
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>>8131136
Which is why that big open source community model wanted to have no children, instead of no pornography.
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>>8130474
a lot of them do that
tPony
3x3x3 mixes
my shitmix Equos [default style is pretty average, so use style loras, it has decent lora compatibility]

>>8130595
how are you training specific timesteps anon?

>>8130658
long ears, big ears, <colour> ears, etc are valid furry tags, try them

>>8130862
did you upload the wrong file or is that a 6 GB LoRA?
interesting idea nonetheless

>>8130908
try this lora, picrel quick example
https://civitai.com/models/396772/modern-anime-screencap-style-pony-xl

>>8130916
that last one kek

>>8130939
Word
higher channels / less compression is needed for fine details

>>8130942
>EU company
Based Eurobros to the rescue of Local

>>8131039
anon, this is a base model, give it time
as long as it has some nudity, basic sex is not too far

>>8131042
localbros, we are so back

>>8131120
kek

>>8131117
dafuq
how did they overlook that lol
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its not even the genning time that takes long, it's the constant fucking loading and unloading of the model christ it takes fucking forever
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>>8131140
If we're just talking anime screencaps, base pony can do that too with no help
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>>8131143
Load it in fp8 bro.
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>>8131143
Just don't unload it then, keep genning
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>>8131147
blame cumrag, its not my choice
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Suppose I want to train sdxl model completely from scratch, and not a check point,
How do I do that?
Does kohya or any other training script to just have the weights randomized?
What is the standard type of randomization ?
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>>8131147
Doesn't it need to load/unload to avoid going OOM?
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>tfw it's going to create new wave of indian SHITposts
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>>8131149
If you have to ask then its not worth telling you
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Is it me or the latest lora on civitai are even more terrible than they used to be? none are working as advertise they either don't work or give a melted result
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>>8130942
>>8130951
>>8130988
>>8131003
lmao finally we're back in the good old early waifu diffusion days, I missed this SOVL
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>>8131151
dalle beaten? https://files.catbox.moe/48du8o.png
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>>8131153
No more than usual? Worst part is the melted ones stop good loras from being created for those artists. Still need one for kccc.
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>>8131117
catbox? I'm broke
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SAAR
YOU
DO
NOT
REDEEM
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>>8131159
>>8131156
im dying
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>>8131135
>Is there a model that follows better than MJ?
Yes, dall-e , auraflow and apparently even this new flux model. What point are you even trying to make? You got a bag and pills not a bag of pills. MJ fails on a simple prompt. I'm not saying that MJ is bad or there is anything better for your use case, but the current goal for research simply isn't aesthetics
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>>8131161
Bro the bag is not transparent, so to show it's a bag of pills the superman took some pills out, you are just dumber than MJ, sorry:((
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>>8131159
>>8131156
kek
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can you use flux with multiple gpus (for more vram)?
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>>8131162
Shit you didn't prompt for, like I said
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But can it go BIG? Apparently not as big as I wanted.
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Here we go boyos. Just like the good ole days.
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>>8131017
really? would mean they will finetune this
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This is unironically better than de3.
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>>8131180
it is
I'm rerunning most of my old dalle shitpost prompts and it's better for most of them
maybe a little worse comprehension (marginally really, maybe just my skill issue rn) on dev but it's better visually, and obviously no cuck censoring bullshit. this is great.
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>>8131175
with finetuning, this thing can be pretty good imo
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Where are you guys prompting flux (other than on giganigga hardware)? The replicate Pro page isn't genning shit, I've been waiting for half an hour.
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>>8131176
xe's in the team but they have no plans of doing an anime finetune of this model
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https://gist.github.com/AmericanPresidentJimmyCarter/873985638e1f3541ba8b00137e7dacd9
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>>8131186
smallnigga hardware and a lot of waiting
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>>8131187
when they know how to train it, why would they waste money finetuning worse models?
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>>8131189
thanks jimmy, running flux on my 1030 4gb
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>>8131193
idk go ask neggles yourself
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>>8131159
finaly, handsome indian male
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>>8131193
Other than it takes many times longer due to being 12b
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>>8131199
that's okay, nvidia is releasing new gen soon
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>>8131189
Can you please explain how to run this for a gigaretard like me?
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>>8131201
You'll get 28gb for 3500$ plus tip
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euler ancestral
2s ancestral
dpm++ sde
dpm++ 2m sde
dpm2 ancestral

don't work

dpm2
ddim
euler (obviously)

work

dpm2 is the most crisp i think
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>try to proompt on pro (replica)
>never gens
>try same proompt on schnell/dev
>gens almost instantly
>try one of the example proompts on pro
>also gens within a few seconds
What's this shit? Is there secretly a proompt length filter on Pro that doesn't return an error but keeps you hanging forever?
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>>8130648
>muh skill issue
Yeah yeah yet actually calm down and try to understand what I'm saying instead of screeching because it's very simple.
>Option A works but requires a bit of wrangling and there are many things that can go wrong
>Option B works but requires less wrangling and is more predictable
This is the type of basic pros and cons breakdown any reasonable person does for any choice they find in front of them. Why is this confusing to you? Why do you have such an emotional action to this rather admit there are some flaws in what you're promoting?
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>>8131215
heun?
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>>8131213
Twice as fast as a 4090 would be worth it.
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>>8131217
>cut down proompt
>it finally gens
Yep, that's exactly what's happening. Fucking fantastic, a boomerproompt model that doesn't let you boomerproompt.
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>>8131224
>boomerproompt model
you can do danbooru tags too :)
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>>8131220
works, heunpp2, unipc also work, lms doesn't work
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>>8130726
>they put two characters under one tag?
Looking them up on danbooru it does look like its an issue of alternate forms not being used. You could probably hope the alternate physical descriptors are enough to prompt one or the other or you can try looking up a list of characters with alternate forms?
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Who genned this?
Box?
>inb4 it's nai
Resolution doesn't look like nai.
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>>8131187
proof?
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Alright i'm convinced this flux shit is not a meme. I haven't had this much fun genning since the dall-e jailbreak memes. Fuck me this is so great kek
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>>8131251
can you share some images?
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>>8131250
wd discord
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>>8131251
Nice gens, bro.
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Flux comes in two variants:

* Timestep-distilled (`black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-schnell`)
* Guidance-distilled (`black-forest-labs/FLUX.1-dev`)

Both checkpoints have slightly difference usage which we detail below.

### Timestep-distilled

* `max_sequence_length` cannot be more than 256.
* `guidance_scale` needs to be 0.
* As this is a timestep-distilled model, it benefits from fewer sampling steps.

### Guidance-distilled

* The guidance-distilled variant takes about 50 sampling steps for good-quality generation.
* It doesn't have any limitations around the `max_sequence_length`.
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>>8131227
I mean kinda I guess?
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>>8131264
Unironically better than cascade and wdV lmaooooo
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>>8131145
No
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>>8131265
damn the 12b fully cooked model is better than two 1b and 2.6b prototypes? that's crazy
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>>8131270
Good morning Jordach
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>>8131265
>flux-based NAI never ever
>flux-based local forever gatekept by retarded hardware requirements
>neither of the above are going to happen anyway because lol no training code
A feast for the memers, another nothingburger for the coomers amidst a nearly year-long drought.
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>>8131273
jordach would never admit that this mogs his 1b model
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1b is literally perfect. what you're playing with is a slop machine while cascade is a tool. if you know how to work the tool, you can get outputs better than anything.
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If you want some doom materials about this new model, it struggles with artstyles even worse than SD3. This model knows only realistic, single 2D style, and single anime style. Go and try generating a painterly one.
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>>8131252
>>8131255
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>>8131280
Wow grounbreaking
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>>8131280
based
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>>8131282
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>>8131284
>polturd
>obsessed with scat
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>>8131286
good evening sir
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>>8131280
>>8131284
this is /h/ come on
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Best nipples I've gotten so far behind the filiter. It's pretty good at holding stuff.
https://files.catbox.moe/mrhul0.png
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>>8131289
This hasn't been /h/ for the past month
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>>8130970
why are you posting in this trash heap of a thread
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>>8131291
can you make her hold a penis
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>>8131152
What is it
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>>8131277
>it struggles with artstyles even worse than SD3
Can SD3 combine styles in a single image?
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>>8131295
This is what I got with "holding penis". I'm using the on-shit tool btw.
https://files.catbox.moe/7f8pqd.png
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>>8131266
yes
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>>8131280
>>8131284
>stability try to be cheeky with a terrible SD3 medium
>safe and effective
>get outperformed by some literal who
how do they manage to always take the bad decision?
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>>8131291
For /e/ this is very good, weapons are always a problem. All you need is to inpaint the nipples with another model.
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>>8131303
at least it can do pure black
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>>8131277
I said earlier, it's clearly trained on AI outputs rather than scraped art. flux vs dalle
>a manga girl with long black hair in school uniform, roughly drawn pencil drawing sketch
looks vectorized across all outputs. maybe i'm prompting wrong? idk, everything has the exact same style to it
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Schizo prompting this is fun
Retro pixel art, 80s computer game aesthetic, a jedi in a robe holding one blue lightsaber, he is surrounded by evil demons in a night sky, pure black dark background with chromatic aberration
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>>8130693
>accurate designs
That's what he gets wrong though. His gacha sluts all have shit designs and things in the wrong places.
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>>8131310
They obviously did some style finetuning after finishing the main run, maybe that's all?
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>>8131315
I'm trying it, it's just applying a slop style to everything
>Drawing of a girl in the style of Eiichiro Oda, One Piece
SD 1.5 vs XL vs Flux. We went backwards. What the fuck is going on with modern datasets? The architectures are improving, the comprehension is improving, but the datasets are going completely backwards where it's fucking losing information over time. I can't even believe i'm starting to think base LAION is somehow better than this nu-shit. Bring the styles back, the past 5 chinese models all had this EXACT same look to them.
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>>8131310
DALLE does prompt expansion, Flux should give something similar if you use the expanded prompt
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>>8131310
This is the best I've gotten so far.
>portrait, anime girl, pencil art, black and white, paper, long black hair, school uniform,
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>>8131318
>DALLE does prompt expansion
on bing it doesn't apart from racial diversity injection.
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>>8131317
Another anon said it already but these new models are literally being trained on synthetic slop.
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>>8131318
what the hell more could be expanded? i told it the style i wanted, it failed to deliver. what else am i supposed to say besides
>roughly drawn pencil drawing sketch
this isn't a 'elephant juggling on the moon with a dolphin in the background', it's a lack of stylistic understanding. the prompt i used is expanded enough. it simply doesn't understand it due to the slopped dataset
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>>8131317
it's not good but styles are easier to deal with when doing finetunes/loras
can't unslop stupidity of 1.5 though
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>>8131317
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sdxl remains winning
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Should I go for the small UNET or the small CLIP first, when I can't run the whole thing?
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>more and more models are being trained on synthetic data
Holy shit imagegen is so doomed.
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quality is horrible but I'm impressed it knows these characters without even using a lora
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>>8131328
Small unet and fp8 t5
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>>8131332
yeah but which one to downgrade first
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>>8131333
te
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>>8130788
>>8130779
For yinlin (and most of the wuwa characters) I found "very long hair'" to be the key tag in both your dataset and in prompting. AI needs to know that her hair doesn't end in that loop but keeps going down and forks into two parts. Also, "facial mark" is crucial for those red dots rather than "mole under eye" like Tagger tells you.
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FINALLY BROS, NAIV4 IS HERE
https://blog.novelai.net/novelai-director-tools-update-en-d4bc638a7052
lmao...
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>>8131338
Wow Im resubbing
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>>8131338
umm
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>>8131338
NAI keeps on winning
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>>8131338
>still no actual controlnet offered
lol
lmao
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>>8131322
dunno man
that looks like a very specific style that would have a proper name
here's what I got from what I manually expanded

>>8131320
huh, TIL

>>8131317
LAION and SD 15 lucked out big time
don't expect anything like those ever thanks to all the scrutiny on AI

>>8131331
which model anon
base Pony?
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>>8131324
but is it 24gb worthy? If this was a 12gb model sure, it could be nice. but nothing here is screaming 24gb. these are BASIC fucking stylistic prompts that previous models could do fine. it's a regression of artistry compared to what was previously already available and easy to prompt for. this won't even get any finetunes anyway. sdxl, which was trainable for a fraction of the cost, still took 6 months before local got a single finetune. and here we are every day complaining how astralite's sloptune is still the only viable local option. you need a damn killer model if you expect anyone to tune something that costs 24gb vram for inference, and this simply isn't it. 12gb sure, not 24gb level.
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>>8131338
How will this affect the economy?
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>>8131319
It's fantastic at holding stuff and repeating patterns like with backgrounds. It can't seem to do art styles with anime. I'm sure this is because the training data was mid.
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>>8130916
Impressive
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>>8130927
I wouldn't say his pics are the best but he's definitely the best prompter.
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>>8131345
Jordachcoin is tumbling...
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>>8130918
What I do is train an activation tag for her main outfit so I can put it in negs. That takes care of most of the bleed but if it doesn't I lower the lora weight to 0.7.
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>>8131334
>>8131332
Thanks. I'm getting about 3s/it on a 4070 with the big model and small TE. Actually usable if you don't need to reroll much.
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>>8131343
>that looks like a very specific style that would have a proper name
what? it's a damn pencil drawing sketch. yours looks like you took a generic anime girl and ran it through a monochrome filter.
>Black pencil sketch, girl holding one yellow flower, shy smile, only the flower is colored
sdxl vs midjourney vs flux. stop training on fucking garbage dall-e and midjourney outputs, it's so damn obvious.
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>>8131010
Yeah but let's hope someone can figure out a way to finetune it so that we can actually work with it. SFW chads got a huge win though.
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>>8131338
can anyone who's currently subbed show colorize? is it slop? dont want to waste my anal for now
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>>8131317
>We went backwards
That's been my view on xl
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>>8131010
What's this style?
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>>8131356
Who wants this slop? I don't get it, why do retards keep training models like this?
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>>8131338
That's it
I'm unsubscribing,
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>>8131362
this, unironically
that doesn't mean flux is not flawed though
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>>8131363
But sir, aether room is coming!
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>>8131360
I agree which is what I showed, XL completely losing the style that 1.5 grasped. I don't think xl's base is significantly worse than 1.5 especially given base 1024x gens about the same time as 1.5's 512x then hiresfixed. The loss of style and artistry with each base model is a crime really. As the parameter counts get higher and the architecture gets more advanced, more and more of the simple fucking stuff is lost in the process
>>8131362
It's trained by kekolds and chinamen who are either too lazy to scrape, too scared to include art, or koolaid drinkers who bought into the latest paper they read telling them how amazing synthetic data is. This has been going on for over the past year, with countless chinese models are doing this exact same thing and all winding up with the exact same results.
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>>8131359
aight gimmie a line art or something
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>>8131366
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>>8131365
I guara-fucking-ntee you it's gonna be its own thing with its own cuckscription
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for the people using the new stuff, local or api?
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>>8131370
Cant wait for the internet and future ads to all be synthetic slop.
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>>8131371
NTA but try this one
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>>8131378
also nta but my first result
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>>8131371
uhh can't find anything in my folder
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/987912?q=lineart+komeiji_satori+
Maybe something sfw for starters
or >>8131378 yeah
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>>8131377
it's actually an issue, with google images already completely flooded with ai generated garbage. if you did a raw scrape of the entire internet now you wouldn't be left with much better than the exact garbage synthetic datasets i'm complaining about. it's getting harder and harder to scrape properly and avoid aislop which is yet another barrier contributing to the decreasing dataset quality in recent models
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>>8131372
+pixel art
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>>8131381
did you prompt anything for colorize?
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>>8131383
I love being able to tell instantly tell the difference between slop and actual art just from thumbnails kek. I wonder if normies have gotten to that point yet
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>>8131381
Not bad (?), try this one now
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>>8131370
>more and more of the simple fucking stuff is lost in the process
Something I've been suspecting
Is for at least 2d increasing parameters may actually be detrimental. Because it increases the search space without needing to and the end results is the only model that converge is one hat is completely fried
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>>8131383
>decreasing dataset quality in recent models
nah at least recent models care about captions
it can't possibly be worse than laion.
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>>8131386
no just clicked generate, i used the prompt for this one
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>>8131391
It actually can though if you're training on synthetic slop
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>>8131392
>>8131388
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>>8131337
Cool I'll re-tag amd cook. What do you think for changli?
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>>8131392
looks pretty rough desu
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>>8131388
It looks like a VN
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>>8131392
Fuck that looks like shit
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>>8131396
It's NAI
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>>8131392
>>8131398
Alright, now try a real lineart from a real artist
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>>8131383
It's a good thing I downloaded the danbooru dump in 2021
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>>8131400
yes it is shitposter-kun
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>>8131382
I made the joker
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>>8131338
Wow a lot of stuff came out today. No wonder this thread blew up.
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>>8131406
What the fuck is going on with her eye?
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>>8131391
maybe you forgot that these are image models, not text models. when your input images are shit, so are your outputs. fluff them up with as much autocaptioned 3 paragraph text that you want, you can't escape the garbage ai data.
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>>8131410
Nah bro, just do what jordach is doing and throw in literally everything, cant possibly cause any issues
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Hmmm
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>>8131402
boorus are still mostly fine, its the ~2 billion+ images that are needed to make the base model that aren't.
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>>8131408
magic eyebrow, part of her taimaart, never heard of it?
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>>8131401
It forgot to color the tongue, literally unusable.
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>>8131392
>>8131398
Also, try the other features with this one to remove text
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>>8131405
Lol. No prompt I suppose?
it looks pretty bad desu but maybe it can be usable if you unslop it in img2img after.
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>>8131416
fuck me that's terrible
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>>8131413
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>>8131415
Hello sir
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>>8131420
just came
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>>8131417
Okay this is actually useful.
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>>8131423
legit amazing
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>>8131423
Holy shit it did, NAI I kneel
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>>8131423
NAI WINS AGAIN
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>>8131423
yeah this one is good.
maybe colorize isn't trash with correct prompts but so far looks bad.
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>>8131423
local can do this with controlnet and inpaint i dont see what the big deal is
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>>8131423
Nai.......... wins again? Bros...
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>>8131395
I've been struggling to get ringed eyes to work properly. Either tag only the extreme close ups with ringed eyes or don't tag it at all and prompt for it. Because her hair changes colors several times I just pruned the color tags but left gradient and multicolored hair. I also tagged the hair near the gold rings as twin braids. The only real issue now is getting the thigh strap on the right leg, and AI still doesn't fully understand what the back of the dress looks like. I tried body markings for her hand but that seems to put them on both hands or sometimes on her leg so idk yet. Still testing. Also tag her collar as detached collar, you'll thank me later.
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>>8131423
i could train a lora to do this on pony easily
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>>8131416
Alright, to be fair that one was rough and weird, try this one
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>>8131428
you could do it with photoshop and manual editing too, difference is that it's one click.
but if this shit costs 60 analcoins (how much did that >>8131423 cost btw?) for each cleanup it becomes much less alluring.
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>>8131330
catbox?
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>>8131433
Also, try to add a background, something that looks like this is happening live on a stage
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>>8131434
one click but also lower resolution and it changes some minor small details.
not saying it's bad or anything but to get the most out of it you're going to need to add steps to your workflow to crop and restich for anything with higher resolution, unless you want to just use a lower res.
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>>8131370
I've been saying this for a while.
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can we not post preprocessed images with tech we had over a year? the only thing that's good is the de-clutter so go clean up datasets
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>>8131441
Think of all of the retards who will unironically pay 60+ anlas to remove a background. It's legit free money
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>>8131433
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use the preprocessed nai spam and make ugly hags out of them
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Would you?
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>>8131444
What prompt did you use? I lost my shit when it gave her a skintight shirt
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i used the photoshop function to remove the background. Left is the og image. middle is the part where it detected that there is something in the way. right is nai removing the part and using ai to fill it in with genai.
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can we all just remember to thank astralite? without her work, none of this would've been possible
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>>8131449
nipples, stage, crowd, glowstick,
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>>8131434
>how much did that >>8131423 cost btw
60 anal beads
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>>8131453
yeah lol fuck this
it might be useful for their chat gooners who don't gen images I guess
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>>8131395
>>8131430
This one's a little better but still. I usually tag the tacet mark as "tattoo" which works well for all the back tattoos but may be messing up Changli's marking.
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>>8131453
Depends on resolution.
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>>8131450
and this is the middle image + angry
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>>8131189
>16gb vram
nice
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Isn't it good enough for just directly training loras on it, without any finetuned model?
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what are you using for scrapping boorus with tags? tried hydrus, but i just cannot figure out how to use it
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Shit's 0 anlas but useless since you can't specify style or artist
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>>8131464
while its more labor intensive I go thru the boorus manually to download images and then use the auto tagger within forge. Works well enough for me.
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>>8131463
no *porn*
although the anatomy is surprisingly correct
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>>8131465
>specify style or artist
you can't? that's lame
but anyway maybe you can send it to img2img? could be a lame controlnet like that, kinda.
I was gonna resub in a few days anyway so I'll try soon enough myself probably
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>>8131463
yeah no character knowledge no style knowledge no nsfw knowledge no booru knowledge
would be even worse than 1.5 times
nah finetune is needed even though this feels like a great foundation
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it can also detect text really good, left with the text, right after the text holocauster
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>>8131466
yeah i tried with autotagger, but pictures i'm trying to use are really confusing it, so want to try with booru tags
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so NAIbros are winning again, huh? Good for you!
Some day local will get a proper model and we'll have 2:1 image ratio like back in the days.
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>>8131475
Are we winning though? 60 Anlas to remove a background with rng is pretty rough, and I say that as someone who uses NAI. Give me controlnet tf is this shit
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>>8131475
Came here to say this.
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>>8131475
>release a bunch of new features
>they're all behind a paywall
I mean...
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>>8131475
we're not, those features are trash
t. naibro
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>>8131430
Eyes you'll never get unless their distinct like Arlecchinos. I'll try the hair that way because I kept getting some goof ups on hair.
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i like how when flux dropped and when nai's thing dropped the image posting improved. just shows that yes, this got old fast and we're tired of the garbage we have now. so, finetunes when?
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>>8131476
>>8131480
I'd use text removal thingy for datasets. Its just iopaint on steroids. Can it detect and remove bar censoring though?
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>>8131482
>the image posting improved
Proof?
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>>8131482
>image posting improved
it didn't, but stupid bickering and shitposting stopped for a bit, thread felt fun to post in
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>>8131481
Well I should be able to get Changli's eyes because the only thing the civitai loras get correctly is her eyes.
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>>8131482
>image posting improved
>a bunch of non-/h/ gens and memes
It's so funny when you guys out yourselves that you're all just migrants from /b/ that want this thread to turn into that
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>>8128709
>Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3
>Edit: 18 Aug 2023 11:52 UTC

are there any... more relevant rentrys? do I have to go to civit or search through archives if I want to get training info?
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>>8131472
Can you catbox left?
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nai is way too good bros
anyways time to goon my tiny white pecker to some luscious NAI BBC
if only i could reach through the screen and suck it myself...
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>>8131475
We are winning by proxy of having currently the best porn model. It's useful but honestly I just use nail to goon. Maybe good for ai rpgmaker games? Nice to have, if the need arises, Idgaf honestly, but this work will most likely be used for something more. All I care about is creating hentai, and sometimes stylish arrogant girls, so I can make hentai of them getting raped to death later. Ill just do what every Gen ai user does. Waiting for the next model
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uh oh freetard meltie
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>>8131489
you just go to kohya github and search through PRs and issues
>I have to go to civit
this too
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>>8131494
this lol
paying for nai and wearing my chastity cage
the pleasure is unreal
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>>8131492
I recently integrated SD into sillytavern and wrote a card to get AI to make up some simple context for each image genned. It's way more enjoyable that way imo rather than sifting through dozens of images that become meaningless once the next one appears.
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bro you can just sub, no need to have cuckold fantasies about it lol its clear youre already considering it
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>>8131487
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>>8131500
local just cant make the BBC I require...
if only i could have their cum in my bussy
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>nai are the only ones with compute to actually tune flux
fuck yes, thanks localkeks for the free meal
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>nai uses their compute to make the BBCs even darker
fuck yes
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>>8131506
If this did actually happen, the cost to gen would dramatically increase.
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How can one man have as many retard takes as jordach? His takes on flux are absolutely embarrassing
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>>8131506
Our saviour Neggles-chan literally is part of the team that made flux and has compute outside it to finetune it.
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>>8131513
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>>8131473
what tagger are you using? I only use WD14 Swinv2 v1 Interegator. That one has worked good for me.
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>>8131518
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i'm pretty new and I've gotten versed with forge ui and found it nice. however, I'd like to be able to save settings presets for quick swapping so which ui should I switch to?
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>>8131517
so we can expect a finetune in 5 years? sweet, i knew local still had it
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>>8131501
>>8131487
If I get the hair and big features right like her arm I'm fine with it since it's rare I'll be making images like that with a clear crop of her eyes / torso. Guess I'll make some datasets tonight for some others and do some more cooking this weekend.
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>>8131489
the theory in that rentry is still pretty good, though if you're looking for info on sdxl training then I recommend this guide

https://civitai.com/articles/680/characters-clothing-poses-among-other-things-a-guide
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>>8131506
HOLD THE FUCK UP..... can they actually just use flux under the current license. So the one who benefits the most of the open-source release is fucking nai? god im glad im giving them my goon money
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>>8131531
who's that, what context?
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>>8131520
ok thanks, i didn't changed interrogator, used default one, will try with this one
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localtardturds will never make the BBC i require
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>>8131531
Can they just fucking say if they're gonna do anything with it? And not in a way that's only revelant to hyperpaypigs (i.e. all gens costing anals or something).
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>>8131532
local exclusive =/= freetard
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>>8131533
I believe he is one of NAI's UI designers.
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uh oh meltie...
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>>8131532
only need to spend like a thousand dollars on a gpu
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>>8131540
i mean, what he says makes sense, but isnt that what was always true? You could have uncensored midjourney v60 and some dudes would still use only local
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>>8131543
There would be a lot more saas users if there was a larger gap in Model ability or a better value proposition
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>>8131531
Isn't it strange that the NAI employees only talk in that discord when something new happens locally?
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>>8131531
Just like furries use their amazing new model without artists right? Remove nsfw and artists from NAI which is amazing that they are the only ones that haven't even gotten media attention what's possible to generate with their models and their userbase will go home/
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>>8131545
this. combine midjourney, dall-e, and nai and i'd never look back at local again. but right now they're all only slightly better in their own way where i don't care enough for any of them
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>>8131546
I believe he was shilling new NAI features just before that
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everything really would be better if it was all saas, no idea why people want to have to manage all this software shit themselves
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>>8131553
Kys apple user
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>>8131545
"nah"
I don't pay for porn and I certainly won't pay to generate it.
I see this shit no differently than with Adobe. The only reason I'll ever end up with an image generation SAAS account is if it's critical for employment and I wouldn't be the one paying for it, the employer would be.
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>>8131554
it's the meltschizo
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>niggles actually is on the flux team
lmao
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nice, now let's see neggles' roughly drawn pencil drawing sketch
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i have no idea how licensing works, can nai just use that model?
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>>8131561
If they pay for the license
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>>8131559
whos niggles
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>>8131561
They can if they pay for a license. But a finetune of this is way too expensive to train and run for them
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>>8131566
lol what? if its too expensive for nai its too expensive for everyone but microsoft, meta, google etc. aka those who already have a model
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whoever trains the next anime finetune needs to alias thigh sex for thigh job or something
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>>8131571
True, but do penis between thighs instead.
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>>8131570
Oh don't worry, it's not TOO expensive, you'll just have to kiss your ass goodbye to free gens (well, as "free" as 25 bucks a month gets).
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>>8131552
who are the people in-between? Nai has gotten a lot of slack for publically selling loli imagen
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>>8131561
they can use schnell version but it's gimped to make 4-step genning possible
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pretty happy with how this came out
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>>8131571
just use a lora
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>>8131571
tried "intercrural"?
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>>8131578
Was this made with a local model?
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>>8131583
Very nice. Box? Did you just do buttjob?
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>>8130624
>>8131015
Did a few but they end looking like walmart inori tbqh, also the red color bleeded into to the male hair, another pony wonder I guess
>https://files.catbox.moe/yeyl68.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/tvsz4d.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/b01a7z.png
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>>8131583
catbox?
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Why it feels like RAUNet sometimes works and sometimes doesn't despite using the same settings and parameters?
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>>8130828
>>8130870
stay mad, anon

>>8131017
not true, at work I run infrastructure, I don't train models, and WD team stuff is completely unrelated to work stuff. I do wdV etc on my own time.

I *have* had less time to work on it lately but that's just because for the year or so before starting here I was a NEET (recovering from burnout)

>>8131187
there's no plan for an *official* anime finetune. but nothing stops me/us from making a waifu diffusion one, in our own time, using the publicly available models and code, and we plan to do that once wdV is done
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i just started genning and im looking for some tips from peeps with more experience, so far i have experimented with basic prompting, tried a few different models, some concept/style loras and a bit of regional prompting
what steps do you guys usually take when genning h? rn im just genning 3 or 4 pictures to see if my prompt is good enough, then i just gen small batch and pick the ones i like
any tips for h prompts? i dont know if i should be using underscores or not
should i use a specific resolution for my base gen?
which tool should i use for upscaling: hires fix, extras tab, something else, doesnt matter?
are any of the controlnet tools useful for genning h?
any other tools or extensions i should try out?
currently using forge ui from the op, is reforge or comfy better?
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>>8131594
I'm on a 3 day and phoneposting
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None of you fags told me that adamw8bit is0't compatible with all cards, I just wasted precious time here.
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How do I get two faces in an image in ponymix? Or better yet, have two different expressions? Right now it's pretty random.
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>>8131594
I'm testing samplers because I'm on a cope streak to try to find something non smea to use. Smea is too good but I want variety again.
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>>8131594
Everyone's messing around with flux probably. I managed to break its anatomy, but it was not easy. Seems like fingers are basically a non-issue for larger models.
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reforge guy here, tried to add support for flux but failed, well it loads the model now at least (only if renaming the extension to .safetensors), but got stuck there.

If someone has an idea all is welcome IoI

https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge/commits/dev_flux_experimental

meanwhile i have to fix an issue with the raunet extension
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>>8131584
i have never trained a good concept lora
>>8131585
it doesn't do anything
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>>8131609
Mine is like (sumata, pussyjob, thighsex) or something and it works 50-70% of the time the issue is the person behind or whatever gets kinda melted. Remember any issues you have check e621 tags too.
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>>8131608
Anon did you finish or figure out anything with the ODE samplers? They work but like they do some weird shit and don't show a timer or anything so it's hard to use them.
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>>8131611
Those samplers don't work with livepreview somehow, I think I need to adapt it like DPM Adaptive, since the ODE samplers use an x amount of steps automatically
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>>8131607
Every thread schizo went to /g/, how cool is that
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>>8131117
Blue archive bros we are so back!

>>8131128
>>8131140
It's a feature
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>>8131613
are you a newfag or something?
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>>8131612
And none of the other cfg++ seem to work at all functionally except sde one, not sure if that's an implementation thing or they just suck as samplers. And t he comfy ones are weird too but that is more a skill issue I assume.
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>>8131590
>>8131588
the prompt part was 1girl, 1boy, after kiss, ass, buttjob, grabbing another's ass, groping, hetero, penis, uncensored, from behind, indoors, sofa, cushion, kneeling, ass focus
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>>8131609
https://civitai.com/models/512942/thigh-sex-thighjob-pussyjob-front-and-rear-view

this one should be able to do what you want, unless you want to only use loras you trained or something like that.
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>>8131616
The Euler/Euler A CFG++ are the same implementations as Comfy. The others I did it myself but it should work.

Comfy as well, they are the exactly same as they come on comfy, but maybe something related to the denoising makes it different vs the A1111 ones
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>>8131594
Slowly making progress figuring out new settings for style loras.
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>>8131619
Yeah I've tried the others and even using same settings as SDE they just generate pure garbage. Not sure if anyone else here has had better luck or even tried them.
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Here's some tests of the new NAI stuff.
Full quality image here: https://files.catbox.moe/5r6eoc.png
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>>8131621
This sure does look like something new. You should share those setting with dimwits doing pony finetunes. Their results somehow look worse than your lora.
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>>8131629
It kinda looks like doppel lora actually
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https://litter.catbox.moe/w6d9uf.jpg
Don't look. Nostrils inside.

New thread?
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>>8131635
It's fine, bro, I'm used to worse. When will you make your girl JC though? You were already as low as JK, it's only one step now.
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>>8131636
I don't know what any of that means.
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How can I search for loras compatible specifically with pony? Or will any sdxl lora work?
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>>8131621
post settings sankyu
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>>8131637
JK means just kidding
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>>8131641
No that would be jk, or Jk when at the start of a sentence.
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>>8131637
JC means middle schooler, JK means high schooler. Gotta learn the anime words, this is /h/!
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>>8131643
i wonder how do cancerous faggots like him even end up here
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>>8131627
Hm... If I'm really tired I could drop a few anlas on it, but honestly, while the tools are useful for the niche specific cases, the vast majority most likely only want. Might be useful for asset generation (sprites and background etc) but the average mf is just gonna gen anime girls getting fucked by orcs. thanks for the test!
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>>8131644
>ESL with anger issues
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>>8131629
>>8131639
It'll be a bit annoying since you'll need a couple of different presets and the slicer deletes the metadata from the lora. I'll figure it out when I share it tomorrow(?).

Would be nice if someone figures out how to keep the metadata with this since I'm too lazy to look into it: https://github.com/ThereforeGames/blora_for_kohya/blob/main/blora_slicer.py
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>>8131627
>>8131645
just use controlnet preprocessors for free. the only one worth it is remove clutter for training shit yourself
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>>8131635
hot, nice job
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>>8131597
>nothing stops
except for huge compute requirements I guess?
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for xyz grids how can i get prompt s/r to do more than one tag per example so like [(red hair:2),(green hair 1.5)], [(red hair:0),(green hair:0)],
it still treats them as individual examples even in the brackets
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>>8131671
Stop showing off so much :(
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>>8131627
This would maybe be cool for cleaning scans but I doubt anyone would pay that much per page when photoshop still works.
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>>8130776
I wanted to largely avoid general outfits in this set because, it's not really "outfits" per se, but more or less the theme of the character. Like a biker girl would be a look, and it'd include shit like leather jackets, but I wouldn't just have a wildcard list with random clothes procced in this. If that makes sense. Like general outfits would be a list on its own.

And yeah, I do have a nested setup with bangs in my hair wildcard, forgot to mention that one.
I also toss in some __Character__ , __Character__ in my characters wildcards to do hybrids, I've had varying degrees of success. Got some __Looks__ , __Looks__ in the looks one too, since most of them can mix together.

I think eyes by themselves is too small a thing for a "look", since I'm trying to change the overall feel of a character, not to mention it'd probably be interpreted by me as more of an error than on purpose. Piercings I think go with other things, likewise for boob sizes (otherwise that "error" issue pops up), but I have added, or at least tried, a fully tatted look. Kinda like Suicide Girls. Though it's been hit or miss since there's not really tags on booru that make good distinctions between types. There's placement, but you can't define a sleeve tattoo. Irezumi (Yakuza tattoo) has been carrying it for the most part.
Shit though, that gave me an idea
Yakuzas, Delinquents, and shit like that could be some good ones to add.

Also for the other anon that suggested Cosplay.
It works and kinda doesn't. Some work, but the character tags associated with who you're trying to cosplay just ends up bringing in that character. I'll have to fuck around with weights probably.
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>>8131056
10/10
That blew my mind
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>>8131645
As a person working on a game, these tools are amazing for me, but yeah I could see how it's a bit hard to find a use for the usual gacha genners. I will say if you already have an opus subscription it's free to use everything but remove BG (If it's 1024x1024), so it's fun to fuck around with because it's not costing anlas.
>>8131650
Still a bit iffy. It's certainly faster than my old process, but it's far more "gamble" than the mostly manual process I used before. A better tool in theory should have more possibilities. (I already figured out that cropping on censor bars with declutter will remove them, but inpaint can do the same.) I'll keep trying it. I would've attached an example of my controlnet process but we're at image limit.
>>8131676
On my way to set up a python script that cleans whole chapters by cropping 1024x1024 chunks and sends it to their API (For anlas-less generations)
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>>8131672
Use full stops instead of commas. This will slightly affect the result (over using commas), but not by much. Alternatively rewrite the script so it accepts another separator, like the semicolon. Which should have been the default.
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>>8131688
>It's certainly faster than my old process, but it's far more "gamble" than the mostly manual process I used before.
you can literally automate this shit in comfy and clearly you have the knowhow to use an API so that's no excuse to just rent a better GPU cheaper than getting a nai sub for a month but nobody on /h/ really types like this so you are probably a shill from /v/
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updated op inc?
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>>8131672
use quotes.
"(red hair:2),(green hair 1.5)", "(red hair:0),(green hair:0)", etc.
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Flux can sometimes make decent stereograms...
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>>8131696
yeah but can it /h/? just go to the blue boards or /e/
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>>8131678
Eyes is cool for OC shit getting like heterochromia or some minor symbol shaped pupils but all opinion. Tattoos have a heavy weight towards womb tattoos sadly, but you can skirt it kinda with shit like (tribal) or (tribal tattoo).

If it's "feel" then it'd just be physical characteristic I'd guess, can do like muscle tone, thigh size, makeup etc. Cosplay stuff carries the same risk of just getting eaten up by the character for your gen, like an astolfo costume cosplay you're 80% just gonna be gen'ning astolfo.

But for character stuff so say biker, you could nested into it materials like
__clothingmaterial__, __outfit__,
>denim, leather, fishnet
>hotpants, jeans, etc
Kinda thing. You've got an idea and know nesting so it shouldn't be too hard.
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>>8131654
3-4 times what sdxl requires. Pretty punishing if you plan multiple training runs.
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>>8131689
>>8131694
thanks the quotes seem to work
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>>8131693
No, the "cleaned up" one sucks and the treech one is too long
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Colorize + Aroused
https://files.catbox.moe/wxlpnp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/9q9pl8.png
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>>8131723
nice
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now that this is truly a text thread do we even need to bake a new one?
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it's over, all moved to flux. take care anons
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Should I post cunneh?
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>>8131435
https://litter.catbox.moe/jb5ygf.jpg
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>>8131699
Yeah I gotcha, I've got one in there that does muscle tone (and another that removes and adds some plump). I do use eye tags, but mostly in conjunction with other stuff, like slit pupils for succubi and looks like that, or glowing eyes + wide eyed for yandere looks. I've also got symbol shapes like hearts in my expressions set, so it'll come up with ahegao. Maybe adding some really distinct ones might work on their own.

>Tattoos have a heavy weight towards womb tattoos sadly,
I mean I get the tattoos on the locations just fine, but they're just mainly small tattoos and symbols, rather than like whole sleeves and shit like that. Like I said though, Irezumi carries it quite a bit.

>astolfo costume cosplay you're 80% just gonna be gen'ning astolfo.
Yeah, that was more or less the problem with cosplay. I had some success with Albedo (the first on my cosplay character list), in that it wouldn't gen albedo, but it'd gen the outfit, but for other characters like Android 18 (the denim vest and stuff), it'd be like 60% success. You'd either have it too close to A18, or the costume would just be wrong.
I'll have to just go down the list and see what works. Generic shit like jedi robes, or specific superhero costumes would probably work, as well as shit that's often used like Shimikaze's outfit.
I guess though it's just largely a problem with how things are interpreted. I can weight "cosplay" as high as I want, but it's not gonna mean much when I need to prompt the character I need to cosplay.

>you could nested into it materials like
I've got a few setups like that already. Like one that randomly generates kimonos, based on type (regular, layered, yukata), open/closed, patterns, etc. I mainly use those in conjunction with background wildcards, so like if I generate a feudal Japanese village, I get that stuff.
But yeah, if I do outfits like biker, I'd be doing nested setups.

I think mainly, I'm just looking for weird shit like the slimes or inklings.
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>>8131752
There's a cool MGE lora on civitai, has all the MGE girls in it. Just make a blanket monster girl card with them and run that at like .8 strength.
>Inklings
Dunno I have some monstergirl, pokemon girl wildcard sets just figure out what gets close I guess.
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Fine, I'll do it myself.
>>8131754
>>8131754
>>8131754
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>>8131017
>She
He's a troon
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>>8131597
Nobody wants your stinkditch smelling up this general, go back to your discord echo chamber retard.
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>>8131338
NAI keeps on winning while local is still stumbling to get good hands. I fucking hate this timeline
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>>8129968
didn't read.
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>>8131648
Pass metadata into a custom save routine:
https://files.catbox.moe/r0o0e3.py



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