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Fixing Edition

Previous Thread: >>8167252

>LOCAL WEBUI SETUP
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki

>LOCAL FORGEUI
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge
Maintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge

>LOCAL COMFYUI
https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/
https://openart.ai/workflows/templates

>LOCAL MODELS
https://civitai.com/models/257749/
https://civitai.com/models/288584/

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Features: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscaler models: https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-Nomos8k-atd-jpg
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8171640
What artists were used for this?
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>>8171681
based
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>>8171685
based on what
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i think i have regained enough mental damage to try making a comic again
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>>8171695
forgot your image shuten friend
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Requesting Dehya buttjob.
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new nai loras are pretty nice
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>>8171704
nai can use loras now? or you mean loras trained on nai outputs
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>>8171705
loras trained from nai, used forge to gen.
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>>8171681
>not on the list
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>>8171704
Where? The ones linked in OP or new ones at CivitAI?
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>>8171704
box and link to the lora? the colors are real nice
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I feel like I should make a list of things to prompt for sometimes I just stare at the screen and nothing comes to mind and I have to go to a booru to search for inspiration
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>>8171734
>>8167406
As if it couldn't be more obvious.
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>>8171705
hmm box or models/lora please?
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which artist style has the sluttiest schoolgirls?
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>>8171739
https://files.catbox.moe/q4awvr.png
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jalter sex, I lost the version I didn't watermark if this upsets you, use ai to crop it out I cba
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>>8171734
I FINALLY MADE IT TO THE HIGHLIGHTERINOS!!!
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>>8171751
does this count as advertising?
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>>8171754
no
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really like how this version of the character turned out. the main difference is that i traiend the base weight style without the TE. it's got good silhouette comprehension for the wings, the stripes on both sides of the thighhighs can show up correctly, the core crystal lines are pretty decent and also show up more consistently. it's probably the best version so far. just about the only down side is that 90% of the gens are body horror and it's unusable garbage
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>>8171757
post the best settings (not necessarily the ones you're talking about, just overall) that you've got for characters, your schizoness intrigues me and now i wanna give some of your settings a try
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>>8171766
these are maybe the best character settings i've found. they aren't what i changed, though, i used a different version of the base_weights style lora.
https://files.catbox.moe/zop7i5.json
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>>8171787
very interesting what you have there. is immiscible noise really the meta or what do you think it's doing the heavy lifting there? the masked loss?
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A tribute to (not) my cute wife
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local could never. a year later, how did they bake it so fucking good?
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>>8171132

If you're still in this thread can I get this boxo pls :3
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goodnight /hdg/ i wish you all a very pleasant brain rot
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>>8171751
How are your pictures so fucking BORING? 3rd day sloppers have more expression in their gens and you've been doing this for more than a year already, apparently inpainting all your shit all the time and peddling your shitty pixiv and twitter on every board. Christ
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>>8171871
it's autismmix
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ara ara
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https://x.com/kuromaruart
please style lora of this man
it would be very kino, thank you in advance
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>>8171895
pm'd you the lora ;)
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>>8171895
>40k sub artfag
>less patreonbux than average bbc shitter
it's over
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They look so uncomfortable..
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>>8171895
pay 300 dollars for a commission chuddie
stop killing artists!
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Does anyone else feel unbearable embarrassment and shame at having bought Jordach's lies? I had so much hope... I feel dirty.
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i only feel shame and embarrassment for not having been the one to save b-sama
gone too soon...
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>>8171907
Rest in peace, sweet princess.
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Where's the love for Nyamota
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>>8171915
shut the fuck up we're talking
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>>8171741
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>>8171904
>everyone hyping his model to be pony killer.
>three months later, everyone turned against him.

What happened?
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>>8171895
If you go through the trouble of making the dataset I'll train the LORA for you, but I'm not saving+organizing 100+ images just because random guy asked politely.
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>>8171922
It turns out he was retarded and he also has a huge ego. Many such cases.
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Is kemono kill? I should have gathered my images for my lora sooner.
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>>8171932
works for me, just a little slow
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>>8171904
no, because i called it on day one >>7883967
he's actually fucking blind and can't see that his model looks like overstretched fried garbage. it's not even that he keeps messing up, to him nothing is wrong at all. he's not sitting there tweaking knobs trying to fix it endlessly in a loop of failure, he actually thinks the current trajectory is great and worth another 20 epochs.
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>>8171933
>tfw getting server not found
Maybe my dns blocked it?
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>>8171713
You are on the list buddy, don't you worry.
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>>8171937
I got almost the same problem with litterbox, try clearing cache/Ctrl+F5 page or changing DNS
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>>8171940
Ah, that did it. Thanks.
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>>8171936
So I took like a month off cold turkey so I'm out of the loop but please don't tell me they're still baking the 1B model
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>>8171854
I miss shuten anon
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>>8171953
Your obsession with idpol is very unhealthy.
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Could this be an avatar
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>>8171949
>please don't tell me they're still baking the 1B
I'll tell you more anon, they aren't using the funds (for ML shit) whatsoever
for fursuits tho...
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>>8171792
HLL-anon...Why did you give up..
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>>8171957
Feels good to live in a majority White country while everyone else is drowning in shit.
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hentai board?
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>>8171959
Like from what I recall e7's TE was pretty okay to start the parallel 3.6B effnet run to see if the aesthetic comprehension flaws of 1B proto that was fixed in the 3.6B proto would be fixed as well in the full dataset run
Did their gpu vendor shit the bed again or something?
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>>8171969
We hate hentai and anime on general here
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slop in process
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>>8171969
Sure, have some sexy miqo'te hentai.
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>>8171971
it did then jordach said renting never ever I'm gonna cook on my 3/4?090 forever (he's not buying any hardware either btw)
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>>8171971
the TE finished baking since like 2 weeks ago and apparently they haven't been able to find a vendor yet
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>>8171895
dude posts more commission info sheets than actual art huh
nice style tho
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>>8171609
a rare ginmoku with no midriff, weird but nice
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>>8171964
kek
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>>8171965
Why exactly does it make you "feel good"?
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>>8171991
from the thumbnail it looks like her pussy and ass have a nasty brown stain as if she wipes back to front, wtf
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>>8171991
>>8171994
behold: the power of furry's baking
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For the love of Talos does anyone got any hairy fat midgets?
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>>8171994
>>8171996
i have zero idea of what you're talking about
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>>8172001
check your monitor's color settings there is a brownish yellow tinge that looks like a diarrhea shitsmear all across her ass crack and below
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>>8172008
That's just HLL, it had a really horrid yellow problem that make the complaints about poony's piss coloring look like nothing. I don't know what those furries are doing to taint their models, but its bad.
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>>8172014
The browning was gone by e7 and latest version was e10 or something
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>>8172008
???
I can kinda see it what you mean on the thumbnail but you really have to look for it
>>8172014
That's not HLL you dumb retard
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>>8172018
e9 but yeah they figured out how to unfuck the colors pretty quickly
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>>8172026
Let me guess, they just stopped using RescaleCFG?
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>>8172029
No, I think it was more artists, photo backgrounds, cosplay and more artists
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>>8172029
No but using rescale in comfy since a1111 extension is the one that had an implementation issue or just dropping it was also a solution for early versions.
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>>8171998
Is a long-haired midget with a fat ass close enough?
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>>8172034
finally the thread starts
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>>8172031
I'm pretty sure I've included enough non-sepiaslop artists, whatever that anon's seeing is probably related to (stereogram:1.8)
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>>8171681
Why DoRa makes my gens look like shit? Hires fix makes it slightly better, but not good enough
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Can anyone explain the sigma start and sigma end settings many extensions have?, like "where" on the steps is that sigma? some values like 11 to 9999 are the same on the sigma start, and is sigma end just the final step? also, what if it's negative? like -1 or -0.5
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>>8172039
IIRC they did some training on solid colors but if you go to /vt/ they might be able to say exactly what
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>>8172054
I'm training on solid colors since my experiments with Arti, anon. That said, asking some things on /vt/ is probably a good idea.
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>>8172057
I didn't say you didn't just that I don't think it was the cosplay photos since that was there from the start for EF+HLL.
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>>8172045
you'll probably get a better answer from asking chatgpt. I'm not joking, it's quite useful
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Do you guys jerk off while generating or do you make a multiple batches and only start masturbating later?
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>>8172066
nothing beats jerking off while genning
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>>8172066
never jerked it to ai images ngl, they just don't click
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>>8172070
What is the point then?
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>>8172066
The breaks between gens make it dangerous, you could spend all day edging like that. But my stuff doesn't come out fappable when genned blindly in batches.
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>>8172066
I don't at all. I don't know why in here, or why I gen hentai. I'm in some kind of limbo.
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>>8172066
dont care that ill be called a nai shill but i sub solely because im a fucking gooner and can just ooga booga type in prompts with anime girls i like with styles I like (sadly not all of them) and jerk off to results I get right away without messing with shitty nochekaiser loras and spending hours on baking. jacking off right as you do a batch of gens or even worse, pressing the gen button like a monkey is just fucking addictive.
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>>8172075
>without messing with shitty nochekaiser loras
I feel like using Nochekaiser Loras should be considered some kind of masochistic, boner killing technique. like the emergency weapon you pull out for someone walking in on you mid wank or something and you need to hide your boner quick
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>>8171244
same artist mix as box

>>8171745
https://files.catbox.moe/le03iy.png
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>>8172066
I don't really do that with image gens.
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>>8172080
i use "nochekaiser loras" as a general term for shitty loras that would cause a lot of frustrations.
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anything new lately?
no?
we still genning ugly ponyslop like >>8171975 ?
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>>8172066
I just gen images for fun.
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>>8172071
the novelty never wore off for me
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We're shutting down after #600 then?
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>>8172087
kek. the worst part is when people complain that your stuff is broke when they use it along with "nochekaiser loras"
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>>8172097
Yes
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>>8172099
>>8172105
Sorry, didn't mean to post twice, I meant to write >Yesterday I voted "No", therefore my answer is "No"
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>>8172109
where's the rest of the dude
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>>8172110
he got turned into a chair by a wizard
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>>8172111
lets see the wizard
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>>8172041
love this one :3
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oi big guy
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>>8172114
now that is a fall from grace sir...
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Stay healthy.
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>>8172112
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>>8172123
>cock magic
excellent
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>>8171693
>>8171891
Nice style, box? :3
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why don't we just fine-tune v1 curated and reintroduce the smut
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>>8172130
V1 of what? Flux?
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>>8171904
it was not jordachs lies, it was you dipshits overhyping yourselves ignoring all the warning signs
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>>8172132
did he give you a cut of the 40k USD we raised?
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>>8172132
I don't see why it can't be both. We overhyped ourselves, but that pedo straight up lied about a bunch of stuff, including donations. Then he and xree justified the donation misuse as being ok because one guy donated more than everyone else, so everyone else's donations don't matter.
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>>8172133
well sure i have the 50k right here, you guys cant see the world in anything other than extremes, either jordach is the jesus savior of the world or hes the great satan destroying any hopes of any good models forever
but healthy skepticism right from the start that he might be like the 8874888884841132 other failed bakes/rs? OH SHIT NO WAY
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>>8172141
don't forget the 60k bigot
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>>8172126
I would, anon, but no one asks for boxes unironically. Think of their bandwidth.
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>>8172139
yeah i dont disagree with that
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>nai website is laggy buggy dogshit
>gradio is laggy buggy dogshit
what do
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>>8172146
time to use up all that free buzz
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>>8172146
Ask Elon to beta test his brain chip and get AI of the mind. it's like imagination, except you won't be devoid of it.
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>>8172143
I don't come here often, sorry but I don't know what that means
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>>8172147
i would rather pay someone to hack together some QT app or make the gradio extension standalone
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>mfw I started the fursuit fraud posting
>mfw I had no evidence to back it up and didn't even know the guy
>mfw I was right all along
never trust a furry
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>>8172147
Even vramlet gens are quicker that shitterai, I can't imagine paying actual money and receiving that experience. I almost feel bad for these guys, they could rent a GPU for pennies per hour and gen with that at light speed.
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>>8172150
forge is on gradio 4
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>>8172151
I'm sorry for doubting you, anon-sama.
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>>8172154
would rather just proompt in sillytavern's shitty underbaked SD/nai integration
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>>8171974
Need more Bea hole!
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>>8172153
using gpu rent services requires a degree of computer literacy that those people do not possess
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>>8172159
unfortunately i'm stuck making THE workflow on comfy instead of genning
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>>8172161
>having to use uncomfy and actually find the nodes to put together to make what you want instead of stealing existing WFs
I'll pray for you. the search function is abysmal
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>>8172165
I already have the legos, i'm just rebuilding it for the small chance of it actually being better
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I'm tired of my shit looking aco as fuck. Please recommend me some style loras that actually look 2d and work well. I'm on Confetti rn - If you know a better checkpoint for this, let me know too!
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>>8172160
It's just wild to me they can't even open up chatgpt and ask it to instruct them how to use one in simple terms. that the average person lacks problem solving skills to the extent they can't even ask a robot to do it for them hurts my brain to think about.
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>>8172167
God's speed o7
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>>8172168
I had been using prefect lately and enjoying my gens. Tonight, REALLY loving my gens. See your post and double check
>somehow back on confetti
fuck me, I guess. It's the same cycle. This time subconsciously.
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>>8172126
lovely
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>>8172119
Im not gonna listen to the sleep deprived girl about health
Unless...
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>>8172168
drop score tags first
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>>8172149
It's for the best, anon. Asking for a box is the most insulting comment you can make about a person's gen, second only to including them in your last thread highlight's post.
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Highlighterinobros, our response?
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>>8172182
I'm only sharing what I read on the 'cord, brother. They're in the know, unlike us.
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>Never post gens
>Never get highlighted
Hehe, nothing personal, chud
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Why would you EVER come to this schizo infested, disgusting piece of shit, worthless garbage general to post anything that isn't cheap quick slop? Don't get me wrong I'm glad the retards are kept contained in this landfill of a thread, and you're all braindead enough to reply to them so you deserve every single one, but I will never understand how anyone "normal" would be masochistic enough to post here, let alone STAY here. How miserable are you?
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>>8172187
dunno this thread is basically /tv/-tier shitposting hole, it's fun in a very dumb and degenerate kind of way
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>>8172188
>shitvit prompt on nai
We don't deserve you, anon.
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>>8172187
I like laughing about jordach with my online friends
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how do I get a character's main color out of their palette? it's an aesthetic question, it's not just the prevalent color, right?
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Any euler smeady bros back on Euler A or DPM++? Think I'll use it when I need something generated VERY specifically but creatively it's so rigid. Sometimes you just need the AI to cook.
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>>8172192
sometimes it's their hair color
>>8172195
really? I think that's a placebo effect
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>>8172195
I legit cant tell the difference quality wise between sampler so I just keep euler A
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>>8172188
thank you for the 9 fingers anon I hope one I'm worthy enough for you to post 10
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/Secret Service/
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>>8172190
>>8172201
You are welcome bros, trying my best.
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>>8172203
if this is your best I want to see your worst
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>>8172197
I dunno, anon. When I batch shit with smeady I genuinely get the same composition and pose with no variance. When I run with Euler A and DPM, at least a few images will add a slightly different perspective, maybe an extra detail you didn't ask for but still kinda cool, etc.
>>8172198
You're not wrong per say. What difference there are is minimal and you do have to be hyper autistic to note. I mainly see the difference in prompt following.
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>>8172202
damn he is gonna fill the hole on the other side
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>>8172204
naivit anon has a heart of gold. Don't you dare take it from him.
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>>8172195
I use it for styles that get fucked up by upscale, just raw gen into 1440 since smea-dyn can handle it.
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>>8172209
yeah ok stockpile thomas
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>>8172209
so have you made any gens recently or have you been too busy thinking of ways to off yourself?
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>lets try this character lora
>open metadata
>score tags
>"ss_sd_model_name": "autismmixSDXL_autismmixPony.safetensors"
im tired
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>>8172213
>4 gens in this thread so far
et tu, schizo?
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Why did no one ever tell me that t-ponai v6 is so good now? I always avoided it because the fingers where fucked on earlier versions
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>>8172206
the smea has more perceived variance cuz it resizes things down and then up again, and the model wasnt trained on the lower res stuff, so it weirds itself out on the composition (not in a bad way)
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>>8172219
I will not download your shit model for a 4th time, xian. I gave it 3 different chances.
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>>8172219
I avoided it because loras were very weak and it retained very little of pony's sex knowledge. That was v5.5 though
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>>8172082
and that's the same mix too? Looks great
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>>8172041
Tune down the DoRA to 0.4 or something like that, or tune down the cfg. When there's issues with DoRA or LoRA it's always like this. The "stronger" they affect what is produced by your model the more you need to tune down the cfg.
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>>8172221
So anon >>8172210 is on to something then? Like I personally have been using it for the last month now. It's just recently I've caught on to the rigidity of its gens. One thing for sure is not to hires or img2img with it.
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>>8172214
whats the problem
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>>8171915
censorship makes it unusuable
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>>8172226
I don't know its inner workings fully, but I agree img2img with it is shit. The sampler was designed to try and make these higher resolution gens work, but it's worse than NAI's smea, on my experiments I don't think I've ever used it on its own, it was always with kohya deep shrink, and there were some stuff that I didn't like (maybe my deep shrink settings). Just try genning it on that resolutions for like 5 gens and see if it doesn't shit itself
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>>8172227
It's not what I do therefore it's wrong and the person deserves to die in the most painful and violent way possible. Not-mes are subhuman.
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>>8172223
>I avoided it because loras were very weak
It's still the case on the current version (I don't have issues with sex poses though). But that's not always an undesirable trait. IMHO, there's not that many artist style LoRA that bring the original pony model consistently to quality levels of rendering.. they work some of the time and with pony's chaotic quality they can turn into something else altogether with just a few changes in the prompt. And style LoRA are strictly mandatory to use with pony considering how shit it looks otherwise. I have never seen such a fiddly model that always outputs wildly unpredictable styles, mostly beat with the ugly stick ones to boot. Environment/backgrounds are also really bad.
If the animagine dude was interested in better NSFW for his model ponyguy would be eating dirt. Surely it's not all MLP guys who are paypig funding him? It's crazy we're even using a model that was mainly built by and for furry degenerates.
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>>8172198
At high sample rates there's very little difference in objective quality but there's something I noticed that Euler does far more often than DPM++ SDE and some other DPM variants, it's screwing up hands. I stopped using Euler because I had to inpaint hands a lot less often with the DPM sampler.

When I see the images in the preview, I often see in the first bits generated that the hand has all the fingers it should, then somehow, once you hit a 1/3 of the image generation, using Euler A, it decides to remove a finger or two.
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fellas I put baby powder on my balls and now my sack is silky smooth
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>>8172227
do i really need to explain, you think everyone uses mixes and score tags?
and the lora is complete garbage, as expected

>>8172233
you're mentally ill
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>>8172239
which lora
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>>8172236
Any perceived notable differences between SDE and plain 2M? Just gacha?
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>>8172227
Because it's not trained on the base model it doesn't work on base pony or any other pony merges, just autismmix itself. nta but it's a very bad practice for the ecosystem, means any new merge like reweik would have to compete with not only autismmix but all of its exclusive loras.

A lora trained on base pony even works with weird offshoots like the photorealistic ones or the PVC figure one, not to mention the usual ebara, tponynai, midkemia, trifusion, etc.
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>>8172243
Based sukumizu enjoyer.
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>>8172243
based pasta
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>>8172247
Tell me about male. Why does he wear the gloves?
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>>8172249
its haram to touch the dirty girl
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>>8172243
Rex would never say something so mean
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>>8172249
Would you touch a prostitute without gloves?
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>>8172243
Fuck you, Rex, just wait until zac comes back and steals all your anime girls
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>>8172252
That why you skin them first, silly.
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comfyui is so much better at multi-model refining workflows
I kneel
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>>8172234
This is nanohana on t-pony. Doesn't look worse or less close to the artists than the other mixes I've tried
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>>8172256
good old stylepass
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>>8172195
i use it for styles that want clean lines, but it just doesn't detail that much. for example make a girl with rain on her skin, older sampler will actually make her and the bg look wet and rainy and smeady will draw like 10x less wet droplets and such
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>>8172239
>you're mentally ill
You're not me. Kys.
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>>8172242
No difference in perceivable quality for me, but SDE is more chaotic, in a useful way IMHO. What I mean is that if there's something that is just slightly off in your picture, turning down or up the amount of steps by just a little might fix it without having to fiddle with anything else. 2M will not change much in the picture from small changes in steps, and don't bother going past 30. SDE might add a few more objects to the scene because of the chaotic nature as you get into crazy steps like 80. Not necessarily more detail, just more things. It can be interesting to do very high steps SDE runs if you have the patience and like varied backgrounds.
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>>8172249
lots of safety for a hired cunt
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>>8172107
How do you make it look so unique?
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>>8172247
This one is nice
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>>8172234
You can prompt innate styles and hashed ones. Both for the styles themselves, but also adding a (kagami hirotaka:0.1) already stabilizes pony's usually chaotic output without having much of an effect on your lora's style.
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>>8172236
What sampler do you suggest? There is too much choice and when I did some test they all looked kinda the same
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>>8172274
Or gjem, aqe, asurauser, hero naisan, nyamota, etc. Whichever is closest to your intended style
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>>8172277
>>8172274
There's also (gpo, ces:1.4)
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>>8172272
Thankies
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Do we have miyai sen in any mega, perchance? rentry index is kinda incomplete
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>>8172289
Clara?
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>>8172275
It's not difficult really, it has to do with how you like to do things:

1/ Do you prefer high consistency? Do you hate or like when there's a lot of stuff that changes in the picture just from adding or removing 5 steps in the sampler?
If you value consistency, pick Euler or DPM++ 2M
If you value chaos, Euler A or DPM++ SDE.
As for which between Euler and DPM.. you might develop your own preference later. Like I said, I personally found it more difficult to get Euler A to behave with hands. But it could just be the models and types of prompt I use that specifically work less well with Euler A, and that might not happen for you. You get a feel for what's right after experimenting, and what's right depends on you! Image gen is more alchemy than a true science. You seem still new to the scene, so let me tell you a protip about prompting: the words you use aren't literally interpreted in any fashion by the model, they're just vectors that cause mutations. Take topless for example. With not too many words and normal cfg settings, it will remove your character's shirt. But what happens if you write (topless:0.3) or 0.4? A character is either topless or is not, right? How can it be topless but less topless? What actually happens is that topless turns into a vector for showing skin, so doing 0.4 or 0.7 instead of full toplessness might either do things like creating holes in the shirt to show off the boobs, or create skimpier clothes that show the shoulders, collar line and boob window.
They all affect each other, so panties + a sex scene will usually cause the panties to move sideway if there's penetration, and if the panties don't, you can do something like (panties:0.6) to make them move sideway (instead of generating something that looks dumb like a penis going through the panties)
Get a feel for it and you will realize there's no need for natural language to describe things. You don't even need to remember all of the booru words.
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>>8172275
2/
Other samplers are mainly niche use cases. There's no reason to use LCM/TCD/DDIM and many others except for when you use something like the HyperSD LoRA (gets you decent images in less steps, but it's fiddly and the quality is never quite as good as doing normal runs. Still, for people with low end hardware, I guess it has its uses)
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>>8172291
Yes.
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>>8172295
>>>/d/
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>>8172293
>If you value consistency, pick Euler or DPM++ 2M
>If you value chaos, Euler A or DPM++ SDE
One of the most retarded things I've read today
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>>8172295
based and americanpilled
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>>8171679
More Solange please.
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>>8172295
Cute.
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>>8172304
>clueless retard spouts dumb shit just to be a contrarian
Feel free to explain your position, clueless retard.
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>>8172299
Cute clara, I like the gen
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>>8172308
lol you guys don't have Euler ancestral or DPM++ 2S ancestral? no wonder the gens look like shit. if you use Euler for anything other than chibi or cartoons you're unironically lobotomized
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>>8172233
incredibly based
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>>8172314
>ancestral samplers
lol
lmao
just denoise renoise penoise my shit up senpai :DD
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>>8172082
Thank you
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Restart-KLoptimalsisters, our response?
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>>8172279
wtf this is so much better than nai
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>>8172320
UniPC-DDIMsissies.. is this finally our chance to move in?
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>>8172295
i love that these and cunny posts get the exact same reception
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>>8172325
mere coincidence
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>>8172327
of course, there would never actually be an relation to the two obviously
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melt around the world, everybody melt around the world
melt down on the floor oh boys and girls
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>>8172225
figured it out already, was supposed to use Euler A AYS + clip skipping 1
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you can post it, just keep it to catboxes. there's no need to shit up the threads like this every single day
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>>8172286
yep thats me
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>hdg weenies just can't help themselves but poop their diapers out of envy when a good post gets appreciation
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>>8172314
>using a samplers
ecks dee dee
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>>8172344
clip skip does nothing in sdxl
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can we agree that NLP was a mistake?
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>>8172360
if it was sufficiently good it would be fine but it isnt
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>>8172360
No, not until we get a detailed booru tagging standard for anime
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>>8172366
when has NLP actually helped you close the gap?
(answer: never)
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>>8172348
This, and don't forget to wear your Dunce hat while posting pedophilia like those posts:
>>8167067
>>8166331
You don't fucking get it, do you? It's out of principle now. I never even posted loli here and don't appreciate the toddler catboxes. It's about fucking bullshit with anime girl posts being deleted while /daco/ inflation garbage and grannies never ever getting touched. Keep shitposting about pedophiles though, sure it will make everyone happy to contribute in a positive manner.
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>>8171831
the masked loss i think
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>>8172376
>grannies
there's nothing rulebreaking about milfs though
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>>8172308
DPM++ SDE is "the best" sampler overall, but it's slow. DPM++ 2M is a faster version of it, with sgm or karras schedule it can feel close to DPM++ SDE. Euler is the "default" k-diffusion one, while Euler A is similar to Euler but it adds noise every step.
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>>8172389
(aua:1.35)**
ftfy
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>>8172370
Holding "object" is already NLP, there's no booru tag for every single object you can think of. Same for locations and backgrounds.
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the workflow isn't feeling so good
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>>8172404
Maybe she fused with her Machamp
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>>8172344
>Use Eular because I seemed the best out of a couple I tried
>Decide to look into different samplers
>See read through https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers
>Samplers divided into rudimentary and 'superior' newer sampler
>Euler is one of the old and busted samplers
>Run a shit ton of gens with alternating samplers
>Test every single sampler in forge
>Eular wins every single time
>mfw
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>>8172411
cuz your shit is fried
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>>8172411
But can we really trust the claims of a woman who lays with canines?
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>all these deleted posts
so it really is just a samefag threadshitter mass replying to himself
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>>8172414
Seems like it.
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>>8172415
Newer samplers are probably made with realistic gens in mind, they just make anime images look blurry.
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>>8172414
I think they just killed the whole reply chain, my one post got wiped saying it's fake drama.
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My ancestral samplers are smiling at me, heun user, can you say the same?
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>>8172420
No sis please don't ruin his convenient way to say that it's a singular thread schizo.
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>>8172411
>>See read through https://stable-diffusion-art.com/samplers
Lol, that website is full of retarded statements and advice. Redditor level crap. Anyway, Euler is fine, I prefer DPM++ SDE but that, A, 2M or whatever, they all produce good things.
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for straight t2i euler is and always has been king.
for upscaling euler smea dy is pretty okay, though.
as well, stochastic samplers, as a rule, are absolute garbage and have zero worth.
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anyone know what artists this is
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Ancestral samplers are better for inpainting or style passes. There, I said it
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stop guys pls
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>>8172428
about as wrong as it gets
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SDE is king
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>>8172428
>as well, stochastic samplers, as a rule, are absolute garbage and have zero worth.
Stochastic samplers have no limits in how much variation they produce as you add steps. Other samplers will stop varying and start producing the same image with just minor change after 30 steps. But you can go to 80 steps on SDE and you will still see enough changes that it can be worth it to just produce everything from 30 to 80 steps, each and every little intermediate step, when you're satisfied with a prompt+seed combination and then you pick the best image out of the random chaos SDE produces.
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>>8172430
>Ancestral samplers are better for inpainting
Objectively false for the simple reason that ancestral samplers add random noise and create seams between the inpainted region and the rest. Especially noticeable when you use adetailer.
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>>8172438
Isn't that the same thing as just picking another seed
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>>8172439
>he doesnt use the inpainting model
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>>8172439
You should always do final low denoise im2img passes to fix seams anyway. The extra noise helps with larger changes andt doesn't fuck up the base composition so much because it gets added gradually.
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>>8172440
Changing the seed causes much bigger changes - ie every single thing changes, while changing the steps in an SDE will do things like add or remove items in the scenery, change the character expression a little, or changing the sex posture / where the hands are and what they are holding etc.

You first start generating with random seeds, pick something you like, then start generating multiple steps level of a SDE and pick from the best. That's what I do. Then once I'm satisfied with the best pick of the best pick I will do some inpainting if there's any minor issue left to touch up.
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>>8172439
Even if you kept the same seed, your resolution is different when inpainting so you're getting a different image ancestral or not.
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>>8172444
Yes but ancestral causes the worst color mismatch on top of just the usual composition mismatch.
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>>8172438
non-stochastic have convergence points and going longer than that isn't worth anything.
stochastics do not and are actual shit because of it.
> But you can go to 80 steps on SDE
literally why would you want to. Just go to a new seed.
>b-but I want a certain type of composition that I got on this seed!
cool. you know what you can do when you're not using a stochastic? You can use a previous gen with controlnet at a low weight and end step around 35-45~% and create proper variations of that composition. This doesn't work with stochastics without having controlnet at a higher emphasis and end step up to 90-100%. Which is bad, since that also fries the output.
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>>8172446
>non-stochastic have convergence points and going longer than that isn't worth anything.
stochastics do not and are actual shit because of it.
This is why they outperform non-stochastic samplers, since the addition of small amounts of noise each step allows for improvements in minor details with more steps. Fucked up hands will never be fixed in a deterministic sampler, while it can be fixed in later steps in a stochastic sampler.
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>>8171895
I totally forgot I already made a lora for him a while back, for some reason I made 2 different versions and after doing some testing they seem to be the exact same with some minor skin tone differences.But just stick to the one in the main folder since its more accurate to the artist.


https://mega.nz/folder/2uBXjCRY#lPq-GnLJ1izbiJF0Y1N6TQ

>>8171249
also added "Yukimaru" to the mega link

8171249
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>>8172448
Improved or made worse.
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for me, it's DDIM
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>>8172446
And the point of controlnet in there? If you want to preserve composition from the first 35-45% steps, just don't denoise the first steps? Set denoise at 60% and you'll get your variation without any controlnet involved.
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>>8172452
We got Indiana Jones over here
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>>8172293
>>8172294
Alright thanks for the heads up and the explanation
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>>8172398
laion had almost everything, the problem was curation and tagging
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Can NAI do rei_no_pool? pony fails in usual fashion
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>>8172455
if you're talking about i2i, that's not how denoising strength works. Denoising strength is the % of noise supplanted during the i2i process. It has nothing to do with a start or end step.
And the point is that the comment was referring to doing something retarded like extending a gen out to 80 steps, which will still retain an "amount" of coherency to a composition that you'd get from 20-30 steps but also change a lot of everything else. And you can just do that significantly more effectively by rolling through multiple seeds with controlnet forcing a loose composition and a non-stochastic sampler than by sticking the same seed and trying to vary step count with a stochastic.
>>8172448
>Fucked up hands will never be fixed in a deterministic sampler
are you some retard that uses hiresfix and only hiresfix and refuses to do manual i2i upscaling or something?
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>>8172465
Yes it does have to do something with start step, because denoise value lower than 100% does exactly that: adds the amount of noise required for last x% of steps and then simulates the last x% of steps of the denoising process. And you still don't need controlnet for variations, it's perfectly useless.
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holy shit people are actually talking about imagegen
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>>8172471
Yeah, but without image examples it might as well be random noise.

Like the guy claiming smea-dyn is only good for upscaling, when it completely flattens any detail during img2img. And the main advantage is being able to raw gen into higher res.
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>>8172413
You can trust a woman that's true to herself above all others.
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>>8172452
DDIM is ok if you want a really rugged style but Euler is the but all rounder for anime styles.
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>>8172463
"kinda"
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>>8172449
oh its you lorabaker?
did you just stopped taking Lora requests? last time i saw your mega folder it wasnt getting any updates
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>>8172450
>>8172465
"Given
that ODEs and SDEs recover the same distributions in theory, what exactly is the role of stochasticity? [...]
The implicit Langevin diffusion drives the sample towards the desired marginal distribution at a given time, actively correcting for any errors made in earlier sampling steps"
I trust in Karras, he has never let me down.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2206.00364
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if euler is so good, then why did heun need to improve it?
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>>8172487
>what exactly is the role of stochasticity?
ask jordach because he seems to love adafactor with its stochastic rounding while baking cascade with it (no wonder its shit)
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>>8172449
Can you recommend me a flat anime style? Something close to this, if possible?
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>>8172492
nta but try asashina from the rentry
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>>8172468
that is absolutely not how it works.
If you set denoise at 80% it is tossing out 80% of the pixels of whatever image you're tossing into img2img and replacing it with random noise before starting the process.
The only relation I can even think of that you might be mistaking here is if you, for some dumb reason, have the checkbox for "With img2img, do exactly the amount of steps the slider specifies." left unchecked. Which is dumb as hell and, iirc, was some retarded archaic setting based on some awful misconception and still exists for who the fuck even knows why.
>And you still don't need controlnet for variations, it's perfectly useless
Controlnet acts as a guidance tool completely independently from anything else. In t2i it lets you set up vague linework that you can have end extremely early for the rest of the generation steps to flesh out. In img2img it can let you crank denoise to absurd levels while maintaining a very similar composition with a significant amount of increased details, even with fairly light settings(.45 weight, .35 end step with denoise all the way up to even .8!). But again, it only works favorably to non-stochastic samplers.
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>>8172143
hello i am unironically asking for box here
yes i like aco and no i am not joking either
there is no difference for me between aco or h its just all porn for me
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>>8172493
try the summer clover lora on civit. pretty awful lora overall, but the style is nice
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>>8172474
your adetailer fuckups crack me up all the time
i like the girls you post senpai
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>>8172494
>>8172499
Thank you anons!
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>>8172493
i'm almost sure that's something with Pija
and also go to /b/
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>>8172503
posted before you added the example pic so it's not what you wanted
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>>8172493
Why do you refuse to catbox? Is it REALLY easier to blur the entire fucking image??
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>>8172497
Yeah yeah yeah, it's such a "misconception" that both UIs, creators and users of which hate each other passionately, implement it the same way.
In fact, ksampler advanced doesn't even have % denoise slider at all, because you know why? These two configurations do the exact same thing.
I was actually interested in the inner workings of this stuff and studied the code of these UIs and wrote a couple of extensions for personal use, so it's funny when somebody is talking about my misconceptions while not even having an idea of the things they are talking about in the first place.
Also, almost forgot to remind, controlnet is perfectly useless for variations.
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>comfyui
just say you're a retarded arbitrarian autist that logic doesn't apply to at the start of a conversation
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>>8172515
nta, you're right, but for the record(useless, I know), old forge (idk nowadays)'s default settings auto changes the sigma to the denoise, regardless of step count
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>>8172518
The contrarian has always been you here. Most people are happy with SDE and don't care for your controlnet autism.
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>>8172474
You can set the
>Mask only the top k largest (0 to disable)
setting to 1 (or however many faces you want to inpaint) under ADetailer's Detection option if you only want it to inpaint one face and not the background faces. Unless you like that of course.
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>>8172518
Great argument, I'll take it as you admitting yourself incompetent and wrong. But also go read a1111's implementation if you want to feel even more embarrassed.
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>>8172497
>>8172515
Start step is just the sigma cutout for reaching the desired denoise based on the formula of (steps - (denoise*steps), the truest of samplers doesn't even has steps, its just sigmas.
Both approachs are correct, it just depends on how they are implemented (but technically speaking the "set denoise at 80% it is tossing out 80%" is kinda incorrect, as the 0.8 denoise is just an abstraction for the cutoff point and it depends on the scheduler)
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>>8172243
the reason why i am still a virgin is because i am scared of women, and what scares me of women is things like these, and the potential damage they can do to me
i wish i was joking
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>>8172533
same, haven't spoken to an unrelated girl since high school
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>>8172529
The point I'm arguing is, at 100% denoise you get sigmas:
[2.5718e+01, 1.2755e+01, 8.4107e+00, 6.2141e+00, 4.8752e+00, 3.9645e+00, 3.2979e+00, 2.7833e+00, 2.3697e+00, 2.0260e+00, 1.7328e+00, 1.4767e+00, 1.2485e+00, 1.0415e+00, 8.5073e-01, 6.7214e-01, 5.0264e-01, 3.3951e-01, 1.8016e-01, 1.0001e-02]
At 50% denoise you get sigmas:
[1.7328e+00, 1.4767e+00, 1.2485e+00, 1.0415e+00, 8.5073e-01, 6.7214e-01, 5.0264e-01, 3.3951e-01, 1.8016e-01, 1.0001e-02]
So it's the same as doing last 10 steps of the denoising process.

And it's the same for both comfy and a1111. Now if you are checking the box to do the exact number of steps specified, it changes absolutely nothing. You specify 10 steps, it will take sigmas for 20 steps and slice off the last 10 for actual use. You specify 20, it will take sigmas for 40 steps and take last 20.
It's the same thing. Though I feel like I just wasted my time arguing with a retard above, probably best not to try enlightening anybody here, they are just going to remain in their ignorant ways because admitting they are wrong on an anonymous imageboard somehow hurts their giant (undeservedly so) fucking ego.
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>>8172533
your mistake is putting them on pedestal
if bitch fucks dogs dump her lol
that said not worth the trouble, jerking off to porn is better and less headache
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>>8172544
yeah i think i will just open NAI, prompt "1girl, pussy", press one button and jerk off
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>>8172439
Wait really? Do other samplers give less seams? I feel dumb for not even trying...
>>8172442
Thats a good idea actually, do you prompt everything you added or just the original prompt?
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Looks fried af
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>>8172573
what is with all these brazil miku pictures i keep seeing
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>>8172576
I have no idea as well
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>>8172576
someone made a brazil miku lora on civit a few days ago
not sure if that's the cause or just another symptom of something else
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>>8172500
>>8172525
I like background faces being more detailed, but is there a way to add different prompt to faces after the first/second?
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>>8172585
Outside of img2img each face after the fact, I don't think so. Haven't ever tried more than that so maybe someone smarter than I knows
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>>8172585
Did Rex get ntr'ed by jordach?
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>>8172585
You can split your adetailer into multiple prompts with the [SEP] token.
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>haha just look at jordach and his fried model
>haha just look at neggles and xer fried prototype
your finetune is as fried as their models, hell even more fried than theirs
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>>8172600
>no gen
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>>8172485
still alive, just took a slight break from uploading stuff mainly because of burnout.

to the anon asking for flat anime styles, the image you posted just looks like any standard pony ckpt and a ikuchan_kaoru lora at low strength, not really my definition of flat, take a look at my eufoniuz/felipe_godoy lora for a typical flat anime lora (make sure not to use any score tags/negative embeddings)

i added a bunch of styles to my mega

also still working on the shidenchan lora a anon requested a while ago
i added a bunch of loras to my mega just now and would appreciate and critiques on them as per usual
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What are the nominees for the top ten so far? I wanna know if I should work harder.
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>>8172620
Uzumaki ass water
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>>8172627
Huh?
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>>8172573
>>8172589
neat
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>>8172627
contender with almost guaranteed placement is >>8172295
it can be only overshadowed by discord screenshots or wojaks
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>>8172634
>nyamota posts aren't even AI generated
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>>8172635
And?
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>>8172634
I hovered over these really fast and it looked like she was dancing in the thumbnails haha
>>8171947
>>8171975
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so i been away for a year and just came back tried a new checkpoint called ponyai and got this

>size mismatch for model.diffusion_model.output_blocks.8.0.skip_connection.bias: copying a param with shape torch.Size([320]) from checkpoint, the shape in current model is torch.Size([640]).

any suggestion
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>>8172576
>>8172583
some twitter artist made a brazilian miku and it got super popular
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i relaly hate twitter
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>>8172642
ah so its just a viral meme thing
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>>8172646
yep
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Might engage in some good ol' beachposting.
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>>8172628
was about to say the same
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>>8172668
anon...
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>>8172641
Delete everything, download forge, download pony, try again
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>>8172679
This poster? Based.
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>>8172679
/b/
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My upscaled images have these ugly crossed blue lines (meeting in this pic above her belly button). Any idea what causes this?
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Do you have tiling enabled?
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>>8172533
>The chad dog bf
>The virgin human
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>>8172705
classroom,outdoors
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>>8172706
sounds comfy
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>>8172700
Ah, it was not on mixture of diffusers. Guess that was the issue. Thanks!
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>>8172705
This might be the most depressingly stupid post I have seen in a while
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>>8172706
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldeschule
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>>8172617
Hey I've been going through the new ones and some like nuclearwasabi or felipe godoy have "no tag" in the filename but still have an activation tag txt file. Which one is real? I can just try it out, but it's kinda weird.

Also, thanks. There's a lot of good stuff here.
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>>8172679
>miku is now illegal because der ewige puritanzoomer considers this pedophilia
4cucks can't die soon enough tbqh
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>>8172729
"no tag" in the file name is weather or not the lora was trained with the use of captions in the txt file (like 99% of people do) or not. After doing a lot of testing with loras/doras/gloras I found using no tag to very good at capturing the little details that artists have along with being VERY resistant to over training(bad eyes/hands)
It's just a personally preference and not all of my loras are trained that way hence why I ask for feedback in case I'm just a schizo who just got lucky with my gens

>>8172712
yukimaru with small breasts feels so cursed
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Zoomers returning to traditional christian values is pretty based frfr ong
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>>8172730
Loli-adjacent (pedophile) artists and their AI copy artstyles should still be considered off-topic.
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When training, should I escape parenthesis in dataset caption files? Does the trainer treat name_(series) as emphasis or do I leave the captions as is and only escape with backslashes when prompting?
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>>8172730
>thinking it's about le morals
do you really fucking believe that those "/b/" and "pedo" shitposts are actually about morals and rules bro
it's just a leverage to turn thread into shit and breed hostility between users. and they won. see all the retaliatory "aco" and granny and all other shitposting happening lately, just thread just being total shit in general
reasons? who knows. artfags, schizos, joker wannabes who wanna watch everything burn, who knows and who cares
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>>8172746
Skeletons in your closet much, anonie?
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>>8172741
So you add an activation tag then prune everything else. Yeah I have a very bad feeling about this, but we'll see.
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i need a sampler redpill, i cant make pics nice like i used to before i updated forge
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>>8172748
He's not completely wrong. Since live and let live is the current mainstream culture, a counter culture of "burn all weirdos" has sprung up among the younger generation
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>>8172754
>Since live and let live is the current mainstream culture
do you really believe what you say?
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>>8172754
>a counter culture of "burn all weirdos" has sprung up among the younger generation
(check their dms and it's full of weird furry latex transformation porn btw)
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>>8172754
yeah. on twitter and discord, maybe on /v/. you will never convince me that anons melting down about this shit on /h/ are genuine.
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>>8172755
how many /aco/s out of 10 is this?
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>>8172776
chill with yd, he looks dead-eyed on nai if too strong
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>>8172776
Lips
Nose
Thick lineart
Eyeshadow
Pony shading
It's pony
Awful colors
7/10, can't get much more without the elegg catgirl
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>>8172776
local literally could never. saas simply won, there is absolutely no hope. no matter how many datasets you throw at it. there is something else being done and local has absolutely ZERO guesses as to what
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>>8172741
Something more appropriate then. Tomimi is anyway not welcome here anymore.
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Can someone go to jordachs discord and start and argument with him over something stupid? euthanasia of crippled children maybe? I'd like to see some screenshots
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>>8172786
>elegg catgirl
that's an insult to elegg
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>>8172796
just show him how much flux outperforms cascade
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>>8172796
jokes on you, you missed one of the Best sources of screenshots from the furry discord, this time, lodestone vs redhotgarbage, over a new optimizer they were trying
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>>8172818
He doesn't care about flux since it just "rehashes" the dataset. For him cleverbot is better than any llm because the outputs are creative
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>>8172796
tell him astracuck got 1 mil for pony v7
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Sometimes multiple_views is fun.
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>>8172819
I'm reliant on this place for my daily fix
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>>8172823
I wish it was less rng but thats what make it fun I guess
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>>8172741
Yo, bakeranon, I'm looking into baking a style LORA and I was wondering if you could help me with an issue I've run into. The artist I'm looking into has about ~60 images that represent their style and are in color, but another 15 or so lineart drawings that are pretty representative but obviously they're not ideal since they're not fully rendered. But I feel like without at least 75 images, the dataset won't be large enough to make a generalized LORA. Should I bother making this LORA or just wait until the artist colors in more of his work?
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it's so funny to see literally who super-niche artists who never got that many comms to begin with still seething about ai as if it's actually making them lose potential commission money
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what's the best hentai model?
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we're not going through this again
it already got pretty lame
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>>8172858
Yeah, but is breast milk /h/?
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>>8172859
as long as there is sexo there, yes
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>>8172859
yeah, this one was hilarious
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>>8172847
60 images is more than enough (assuming they're unique and not nude/clothes variations) and like an anon said in the last thread if i remember, the quality and consistency of your dataset matters far more than the settings so having line art/sketches mixed in with colored illustration is just a recipe for disaster
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>>8172857
The one you're not using
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>>8172863
consistency = overbaked screenshotgenerator
diversity = good lora that can handle whatever you throw at it
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>>8172863
>having line art/sketches mixed in with colored illustration is just a recipe for disaster
that actually works completely fine for whatever reasons
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>>8172867
Jokes on you, I base gen with kohaku, upscale in nai and refine the result with pony
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>>8172870
Then the best in your case is Animagine until you integrate it into your workflow, then next in line will be wdv and cascade
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>put good_image in prompt
>put bad_image in negs
>always get perfect images
damn it really is that easy
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>>8172847
>But I feel like without at least 75 images, the dataset won't be large enough to make a generalized LORA
nta but that's so wildly incorrect it hurts.
You can get a good style lora out of 16 images. Probably less, honestly haven't really tried. But 16? Works perfectly fine. 30 something? Usually pretty okay so long as you can actually make sure that it's stylistically consistent. 50+? Also fine, though at that point you can usually start to lose some real specific nuances.
It's weird and contrary to a lot of prior beliefs but honestly, less can be substantially more when you're trying to capture specific elements of an artist.
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>>8172873
unironically why nai uc presets exist
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>Try prompt on pony
>fails
>Try prompt on flux
>fails
Why are my ideas so ahead of technology?
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>>8172868
by consistency i was referring to the art style and not the poses/scenes

>>8172869
interesting every time I've tried to bake a lora with completed works/line art/sketches they all ended being a gacha on weather or not I get the style I want each time I gen
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>>8172878
>interesting every time I've tried to bake a lora with completed works/line art/sketches they all ended being a gacha on weather or not I get the style I want each time I gen
skill issue and i'm not shitposting, either you didn't tag them properly or... you didn't tag them properly. or you didn't have sketch/lineart/etc in your negs
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>>8172878
are you using tokens like sketch in the training captions to denote those images? i trained a lora on a shit load of sketches and a handfull of color images and the sketchy style needs specific prompting to show up.
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>>8172880
>>8172881
probably a tagging issue then, the last time I had a dataset filled with sketches was back in February
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its not /h/ yet but im cooking something up for you all
https://files.catbox.moe/dut5fl.png
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powered by AMD
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>>8172873
thats pretty much what the bad-image neg embeds did on 1.5
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>>8172875
what negative prompt is best then? I see quite a alot of people use different things and I'm not sure which one to use. (fairly new to nai)
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>>8172883
nice wife amdanon
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>>8172888
if you're on nai switch to the human focus uc preset
if you're on local i have no idea
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>>8172889
i regret to inform you, that in this scenario she is not the wife
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>>8172893
how many dicks are you going to force up her ass, anon
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>>8172893
how many dicks is she going to force up your ass, anon
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>>8172863
I've thrown whatever most of the time it's whatever; mixed lineart woth color images, manga panels etc. Only thing I'd recommend is cleaning up watermarks like patreon or something I'd they're on a fair few images because that shit bleeds through unprompted all the time
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>20 nodes just to get a 2-region regional prompter in comfy
>any additional region is another 12 nodes
why must this be so awful
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>>8172895
youll find out when its done
>>8172897
none, thankfully
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>>8172874
>>8172878
>>8172880
>>8172882
A lot of different, contradictory opinions. I think I'll try to bake a LORA using my current dataset, since I feel it represents the artist well enough, but I'll make sure to tag all the uncolored stuff properly. If it ends up as a gacha hell of sketchy, B&W images anyway I'll just go back and retrain with only color images. At most I'll lose a little bit of time.
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>>8172909
If you have the time you could just bake both with and without those. And then repeat once the artist has more images.
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>>8172916
Not a bad idea, but the real bottleneck for me is testing. It takes a while for me to test a given LORA to the point where I'm satisfied. I might upload it somewhere and let people ITT test it out but I'm not convinced anyone here actually gens images anymore.
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>>8172905
You're doing something wrong then, I have 4 nodes per region. Mask, clip prompt encode, conditioning set area mask, conditioning combine.
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not even ugly bastard is powerful enough to overcome the headless reverse suspended congress effect
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>>8172943
reverso sussp what now
just prompt full nelson
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>>8172712
some sexy hentai for you.
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>>8172952
>hentai
this isnt /h/ content though
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>>8172952
Why me?
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>>8172712
>jannies hate tomimi
are you fucking kidding me
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>>8172959
I was surprised too, this had been my test prompt for new styles for months now.
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>>8172939
Like this. Just load up an image in the same resolution and draw the mask manually, instead of trying to assemble one through compositing.
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>>8172960
you can post it on /b/
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>>8172960
i won't stand for this speciesism against archosaurias
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Does "fine grained" composition include eyes?

(3) The paper does not elaborate on the possible limitations or potential failure cases of the proposed method.

Following this comment, we performed an in-depth investigation of our human evaluation experiment on the partiprompts dataset to identify failure patterns, both regarding the image category and the challenge class (see Appendix H of the revised supplementary material). We indeed observe that Würstchen is underperforming compared to Stable Diffusion 2.1 in some aspects, specifically in tasks involving prompts that ask for writing/text, symbols and prompts requesting specific quantities of objects. In other words, tasks where the composition of patterns and objects in relation to each other is particularly important. We attribute this to the fact that Stage C operated on a very high compression, making fine-grained composition more challenging compared to Stable Diffusion 2.1. Stage B could correct this but is shown to primarily act as a super-resolution model, which we demonstrate in a small study in Appendix E. We also briefly elaborate in Section 4.2 and Appendix I on the fact that the heavy filtering of the data (see Appendix G) results in a characteristic style for the generated images, which may not be desirable for a general image generator.
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i bought a cheap onahole and coomed in like 40 seconds.
my genned wife will never be satisfied like this.......
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>>8172976
box?
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Is this a new spambot?
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>>8172962
I do have the compositing workflow, including a bunch of spaghetti to route around the canvas dimensions from a single source and basically have sliders to cut the rects for the regions instead of typing in the numbers, it's a lot of nodes that add up quickly, but it's low maintenance afterwards.
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>>8172992
https://civitai.com/images/26614634
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>>8173005
thanks!
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>>8172973
cute! boxo?
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where is "Artist - wagashi .3 WD - IPG - ND v27 doubled all-000024: 9a04eb0d88d0"
the mega https://mega.nz/folder/L7Q3XaQC#jg7_M_gCun-aQenQmLISIQ/folder/DuYHnDqQ
only has v21
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Did all the schizos get range banned or why is it so dead?
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>>8173059
theyre sleeping
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>>8173059
I'm testing LORAs. Have this.
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>>8173059
i already did a drive by drop of my best gens so im just waiting on next thread's highlights
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>>8172687
just inpaint
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>>8173064
We should have half-time highlights at 150 IMG count
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just did a cord sweep
jordach still swears the model looks great and you're better off spending "20 mins of effort in an image editor" to fix the fried eyes
neggles is doing nothing like usual
nai v4 still not announced

not even worth a screencap at this point...
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>>8173078
join vpred pony waiting list
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Cnuy
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>>8173078
Just run adetailer with another base model. I mean you're using comfy anyways, this is what it's for.
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>>8173078
>jordach still swears the model looks great and you're better off spending "20 mins of effort in an image editor" to fix the fried eyes
Aren't we going to be able to inpaint or something?
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>>8173084
I think I'll just run the entire prompt in another model.
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>>8173086
inpainting at higher res won't help if the model doesn't know what eyes are supposed to look like
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>>8173078
>jordach still swears the model looks great and you're better off spending "20 mins of effort in an image editor" to fix the fried eyes
top kek, wondering what his cope will be once people start asking why the 3.6b model hasn't started baking yet because he spent all of the donation money on a fursuit.
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>>8173078
You missed jordachs rant about imminent civil war in the off-topic channel. Had some screenshot worthy statements
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>>8173088
So... how are we supposed to fix the gen? literally >>8173084?
Sounds just like the refiner meme
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>>8173095
>So... how are we supposed to fix the gen? literally
Krita
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>v4 still not announced
at this point they might as well confirm it's a yearly thing
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>>8173086
>>8173095
his suggestion regarding fried eyes was to 'train a lora' or edit it manually in paint. he views his model as an artist tool, not a slop generator. so having it do things right would make it slop and we cant have that.
>>8173093
i don't really look at the other channels because i don't care for him outside of cascade.
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>>8173097
>>8173100
We are never going to have anything like NAI inpaint on local aren't we
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>>8173105
We already have foocus inpaint patch. It just happens to not work on most SDXL finetunes, barring Animagine.
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>>8173105
not soon anyway. people hardly train inpainting-specific models in the first place anymore. anything that we get won't come from the 'effort' of the finetuner but rather just a side-effect of advancing tech. so maybe in 5 years we will have decent inpainting but only because the next-gen base model made it good.
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>>8173113
>worst girl
do the best one
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>>8173117
3.6b confirmed for 2029/early 2030 let's goooooo
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>>8173105
the prerequisite fo a good inpaint model is a good model
do we have a good local model? no we don't
and what "good" means in this context is being able to do decent anatomy and large variety of styles out of the box, without cope mixes or loras
and fill inpainting on base pony is better than it is on mixes, at least from my experience
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Wincest
>https://files.catbox.moe/i37eec.png
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>>8173137
this was a good series
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>>8173137
I cringed so hard when the classmates walked in on them banging in the entryway that I had to put down the series for several months.
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Anyone can recommend a LoRA for something like very thick line art + nice but well balanced saturated colors? overall level of detail generated should lean toward simplistic over complex visuals
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>>8173118
sometimes worst girl is actually hottest girl anon
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>>8173150
>well balanced saturated colors?
It's SDXL, Sir
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>>8173099
Look on the bright side. If they release v4 this year, we might get v3 open source next year and have a good local model to work around.
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>>8173152
i miss mainstream releases having girls with certified gigaslut outfits.
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isn't v4 supposed to be their own base model? they announced they were working on their own model before v3, and then v3 turned out to be SDXL anyway.
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>>8173161
This, It was said that AI would destroy the JK alliance, no join them.
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>>8173174
>isn't v4 supposed to be their own base model?
lol people vastly underestimate the sort of skill and trial and error involved in making new base models. There's very few successful, truly usable (hint: not a few nice looking pictures in an ARXIV paper that were cherry picked out of hundreds of thousands of generated trash) models out there.

For that matter it's a miracle we even got SDXL us local users. Is it bad compared to NAI or, for not-nsfw, DALL-E and Midjourney? Yes. Is it bad compared to other local models? Nah. All those models that popped up over the past months, go and try them yourself and you'll see that the paper doesn't match the reality.

In fact Stability didn't manage to outdo SDXL with SD3 either. I've tried every single combination of sampler + scheduler settings and nothing could make it behave in a consistent manner. Changing just one step level could morph the entire image as much as changing the seed would. That model is absolutely nuts, in a bad way. It has worse anatomy than base SDXL. It has better prompt following (ie saying that a particular item should be red and not ending up with many red items) but that's all. Even without the licensing woes, SD3 would be dead on arrival and nobody would bother finetuning it for NSFW. In fact I believe SAI entirely did those controversial moves on purpose to throw off people's attention from the fact that the model is a piece of crap.
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>>8172428
>for upscaling euler smea dy is pretty okay
Based blind anon.
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>>8173078
>neggles is doing nothing like usual
he is up to something with ani and nobody told me what it is yet
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>>8173199
>he is up to something with ani and nobody told me what it is yet
gay sex
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>>8173152
>vanille is a coalburner
this is why fang is best girl
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>>8173200
>>8173202
TELL ME!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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>>8173158
don't really care about local but i suppose that open sourcing v3 would allow me to gen with something when the website or the api start to take 5 whole minutes to error out
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What's wrong with Pony?
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>>8173210
The amount of shit you have to put on top of it to gen something decent and sometimes it's not even enough or straight out impossible due to its knowledge on some concepts
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>>8173158
>v3 open source
lol, lmao
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>>8173213
(this is what people say about 1.4/5 too btw)
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Oddly shaped mushrooms are not /d/.
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>>8173206
v3 local would be a huge deal. People can train stuff off of it, and use loras and other exclusive local tools. Problem with NAI is being limited to its training data with no way to really branch out.
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reminder that nai's ceo has explicitly stated that naiv3 will never be open source
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>>8173222
>exclusive local tools
the useful controlnet models are doa for v3 though, at best you might get actual ipadapter or reference-only controlnet
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>>8173227
in that scenario the anytest guy would definitely retrain it for v3
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>>8173229
not even analtan was able to do that even after they managed to unfuck sdxl, what makes you think a single sperg will pull it off
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>>8173231
what makes you think anlatan has even tried
they simply don't care about it
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What's wrong with NAI?
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>>8173238
closed weights
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>>8173233
>second to last nail in the coffin for local
>lol they didn't even try it
>despite the fact they did for the previous model like 2 months before
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>>8173238
It's not free
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>>8173238
It's not flux
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the 'cord is laughing at us again
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nai local has good potential, it would just need a bit of cleaning first to remove the icky stuff. pony scales great with loras, once you add 5-7 loras you'll start achieving stuff you never though was possible. saas has no answer when local can do literally every style and character thanks to loras
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still cookin, but i think it'll be well-received
https://files.catbox.moe/bqcs1x.png

powered by AMD
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>>8173242
are you being obtuse on purpose? controlnet was essential for getting ok results out of shitty 1.5 models but it isn't nearly as crucial for sdxl, so they have no incentive to waste time with it
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>>8173249
cope of the century
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>>8173247
>icky stuff
uh oh meltie incoming
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>>8173252
yeah i figured i was wasting my time replying to you, i'll keep that in mind in the future
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>>8173239
>>8173240
>>8173243
>>8173251
That's a you problem though?
>>8173244
Retard?
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>>8173248
Guy on tv is literally me
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>>8173255
local autists who do things either out of spite or for the lulz couldn't get sdxl controlnet to work even remotely as well as 1.5's but OK retard
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>>8173259
i wish not being able to train loras on nai was a me problem
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Uh oh, naisissie meltie
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>>8173263
SDXL produces much less fidly results, so who cares? controlnet was basically indistinguishable with making 1.5 usable because 1.5 was a joke of a model.
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>>8173238
the quality of any given character or style on NAI is likely to be about on par with the average civit slop and there is no way to fix this.
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>>8173259
>That's a you problem though?
not really, I haven't given them anything and I am happy with what I got
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>>8173272
Based
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>>8173269
Bro saying this as if every single pony gen didn't look copypasted from one another
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>>8173279
based illiterate anon
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>8173269
>blue archive halos
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Me with my cute adult wife
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OUR wife
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>>8173287
only good poster itt
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>>8173287
why are you black
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Why hasn't anyone uploaded a 9999x9999 gen yet?
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>>8173296
My dick (gpu) isn't that big
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>>8173287
based as always
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Would anyone know what causes adetailer to create 3 nostrils and how I might fix that?
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>>8173292
ate too much kfc
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>>8173304
too high denoise, bad size, bad padding
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>>8173296
Not worth the trouble as you won't get any (You)s for it.
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dead thread
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>>8173296
A 1024x1024 image has 128x128 = 16,384 latents to generate. A 10240x10240 image has 1280x1280 = 1,638,400 latents.
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>>8173356
latendeez nuts
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>>8173356
sorry can you explain this in NAI terms that I can understand?
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>>8173372
yours?
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>>8173371
BIG COOM MAKE CUDA OOM
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>>8173373
nice, milkbox?
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Haven't been here since the Colab ban. Is there still no way to run SDXL for free on shitty hardware? I'm aware NAI is a thing but from what I've heard that shit is paid AND hasn't been updated since 2023. I don't wanna spend a single penny.
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>>8173384
naisissies.. our response to being outdated?
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>>8173384
paperspace might still work, alternatively stablehorde
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>>8173385
ngl i'm only bothered by not being able to make ellen joe rn
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>>8173384
Hold on I'll tell you but the NAI shills have to shut up before you can hear me
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>>8173388
Paperspace was paid last time I checked. Will look into the latter though.
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What is the shittiest graphics card + cpu combo you can use to gen and still being able to bake some gens even if they look like ass? The bare minimum. I don't care about quality since most gens everyone post look like soulless shit anyway.
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>>8173396
I asked this on question /g/ a while ago out of curiosity and they told any GPU on this list
https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus
with 8+GBs of VRAM, plus 8 GBs of RAM, iirc
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>>8173399
sorry not 8GBs of VRAM but it needs to be big enough to load a model on it, so nothing under 4 GBs I assume
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>>8173371
1girl, school uniform, smile
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Hi just a reminder that nai > ponyshit

Bye!
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shark
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>>8173051
It's not really better from my testing and I got lazy with updating all of them since I did a bunch on v27. That being said gonna update it soon (meme'd this before) but don't have too much to put up since I've been lazy and haven't found new artists I want to do.
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>pedoshit
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>>8173407
I still haven't rolled her
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>>8173406
but nai can do this? >>8173373 >>8171975
i don't think so
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>>8173412
Damn, localchads - no, localgods - I kneel.
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>>8173409
saar liking 2d imaginary hebe girls is way more socially acceptable than killing them irl for shitting on the street.
>>8173407
nice ellen gen
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>>8173410
>>8173416
samefag, it's pony garbage
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>>8173404
https://files.catbox.moe/86l5tz.png
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>>8173415
good thing you at least know your place
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>>8173410
i would sniff her fluffy hair
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FIT and YOUNG
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I found this gallery in e-hentai and I really like the style: https://e-hentai.org/g/2996791/c3c49a93a8/
I'm having trouble articulating why. There's a certain "softness" both in the lines and shading that I find very appealing. The poses also look relatively dynamic.
Do you guys know what artists/tags would give me the closest results to achieve something like that? I use NovelAI but if you use SD that's fine.
Thanks
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>>8173427
bro if you're on nai just steal someone's prompts and artists wtf are you doing trying to put in effort yourself?
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>>8173427
That's 50%
>asura (asurauser)
and 50% some gook artist. Maybe ratatat, they all look the same.
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>>8173431
Thanks
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>>8173417
Pretty sure the dude has a couple of loras already, I assume anyway I haven't bothered to look.
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Has anyone set up a patreon or fanbox?
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>>8173438
No, but if you want to donate I'll get one just for you.
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>>8173438
I've subbed to NAI, a few /hdg/ genners, and pay for access to the 'cord.
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>>8173287
Based.
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Are red onis welcome here?
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ara ara
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>>8173449
not fat enough
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>>8173427
I think some kawacy is in there.
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>>8173457
I'll try that, thanks
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>>8173451
Sorry I only have 3 weeks old onis
>>8173455
I put them all on a diet sorry
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>>8173439
No fucking way there are retards willing to pay for a set of 40 shitty pics you can do at the press of a button. There's simply no way, I refuse to believe that.
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>>8173453
>sub-D cups
Dangerous
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>>8173463
Good night
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So what kind of images make the best for a lora dataset?
Finally have enough buzz to train one on civitai
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>>8173406
good gen, what style?
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yup, it's sloppa time
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>>8173501
KEEK
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>>8173496
it's NAI
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>>8173501
>he left a seed on
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>>8173501
GOD, I hope expressiveH is in there.
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>>8173501
what is the max amount of tokens that number is even allowed to reach? lmao
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>>8173504
faggot.
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https://files.catbox.moe/6swsrw.png
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>>>/b/
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>>8173521
Sylvie my love
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>>8173519
good morning
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>>8173534
faggot.
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So is anyone gonna post porn gens or what
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>>8173538
Ask and you should be served
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>>8173542
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>>8173543
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>>8173542
You look like a normal human, you shouldn't be here. thanks for the gens tho.
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average MUH RULES enforcer day
>okay then, lets check this gen
>bestiality? uncheck
>futa? uncheck
>gay? uncheck
>furry? uncheck
>brony? uncheck
>scat? uncheck
>excessive proportions? uncheck
>has at least one male on the gen? check /// nice, so it is /h/
>male focus + bbc? its not an actual rule but i just love it, kind of a personal taste, sadly i will have to uncheck for this one
>whats this.........????? SMALLER FEMALE????!??!? OH NO
>IT EVEN HAS SMALL BREASTS OH NONONONO, NOT ON MY WATCH
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>>8173545
>>8173547
You are welcome
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>>8173555
Based
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>>8173560
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>>>/b/
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>>8173555
what about yuri tho
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>>8173571
>>>/y/
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>>8173572
You mean >>>/u/.
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pedos woke up
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>>8173566
Nice composition, mind posting a catbox? Trying to replicate it for my own gens but I can't quite get the posture right
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>dead general
Well deserved, you toxic chuds. Mock each others gens some more. Ask for another box or drop a Based.
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>>8173617
We self destructed to get away from you, specifically. That's how annoying you are
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>>8173587
More of her?
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I'm doing /e/ gens at the moment bwo, turns out anime girl's curves are really alluring
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>>8173617
catbox?
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>>8173623
I've seen it for so long it feels like it's too late to ask
but wtf is bwo
for some time I thought it was some tranny way of saying bro and them thinking it sounded moe somehow
but now I just don't know
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>>8173626
>for some time I thought it was some tranny way of saying bro and them thinking it sounded moe somehow
It's exactly that but without the trannies living rent free in your head
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>>>/vt/83942785
>Guess it's possible to port to SDXL but I'm not sure if the results are gonna be great.
>shift = 0.5
>scale = 1.2
>timesteps = torch.sigmoid(scale * torch.randn((b_size,), device=device))
>timesteps = (timesteps * shift) / (1 + (shift - 1) * timesteps)
>disabled debiased estimation
Holy shit it started learning REALLY FUCKING FAST but also in a really weird way and the loss started to go up, fucking everything up. I'm not sure if it's because of the learning rate scaling without debiased estimation, gonna try with LR halved. Also I'm not entirely sure with which side I should have shifted, but looks like I did it right?
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>>8173628
well holy fuck that's pure faggotry, now I want to go back to blissful ignorance where I thought it stood for something
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>>8173631
Also it may be extremely possible that it's just full bf16 optimi.Lion with kahan summation fucked everything up. But that's the only configuration I got gradient accumulation work...
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>>8173631
This code should be put just before this line https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/d5c076cf9007f86f6dd1b9ecdfc5531336774b2f/library/train_util.py#L5069 if anyone wants to try changing timestep sampling for lora training
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>>8173631
i remember someone saying to never ever do this, it would be funny if it was an improvement kek
i also tried, but with triangular distribution, it still trained, but idk if it was better
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>>8173631
is this the vpred pony stuff? if it works will you do a tutorial/settings release on how to unfuck pony? i might throw $500 to rent and train a bigger dataset
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>>8173396
>>8173400
I used to gen on a gtx970 back in SD1.5 days. You don't need fancy cuda or a crapton of vram as the bare minimum.
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>>8173640
I mean, this was used for Flux, wasn't it? It's already known that it's working. https://github.com/kaiwang960112/SpeeD
>>8173641
You'd want to train on the part of the dataset ponyfag used, I'm not sure where you'd obtain it.
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>>8173648
WE
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c
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>>8173665
local could never
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>>8173665
sorry sar but that's an ugly cunny
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>>>/b/
>>
u
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>>8173680
dude switch back to quasarcake slop, they look retarded now
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>>8173682
oh it's quasar
I always thought the big piece was fizrot and dino
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>>8173113
catbox please?
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>>8173704
too high quality for /hdg/
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>check thread after months
>still nai vs pony shitposting
>gens still look the same
ugh
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>>8173714
pony killer flux finetune is baking as we speak
trust the plan
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>>8173714
You missed everyone giving a shit about genning something nice getting vacation after vacation and eventually leaving, that just might have to do something with gens here being mostly sloppa.
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>genning on nai
>going great, coherent gens
>suddenly gens turn incredibly incoherent
>changed nothing, same prompt
we love closed source tools
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>>8173720
skeil iseu
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>>8173721
whose skik though
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>>8173719
What do you mean? A lot of amazing gens are still being posted, just no /b/ stuff. Here's a sexy miqo'te for you anon.
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>>8173725
Thank you, anon, I take my words back, amazing sexy gen indeed, keep it up!
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>>8173509
whats wrong with expressivh?
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>>8173725
this is a repost
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>>8173728
Cheer up haha :) Don't be afraid to post some sexy hentai.
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>>8173732
its pony
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>>8173732
it's miqomix
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>>8172269
probably censored in negs, which warps the style pretty hard in pony. I use it for this particular style mix, in others I prefer to put uncensored in positives. I find it bends the style to be more realistic and 3dish, gives it an undesirable grainy look, and can give clothing and objects some interesting textures.
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>>8173739
>censored in negs, which warps the style pretty hard in pony.
What the fuck?
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>>8173740
only in his style probably, I've never seen it make a difference before
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>>8173740
if hes using a style lora with "censored" on some of the captions
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>>8173743
it live2d retard, watch a tutorial
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>>8173730
SAAR
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n
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Anyone knows any good upscaler? I use waifux2. Is there something better? I want to get into the /hdg/ highlights
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>>8173755
pay the anals
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>>8173755
> I want to get into the /hdg/ highlights
you're getting there with this gen already, don't worry bro =)
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>>8173759
it's pixelart
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>>8173759
it's waifu2x
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>>8173755
catbox?
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>>8173759
low cfg
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>>8173755
I'd recommend posting /h/ content if you actually want to get on the highlights. This would only get you in the running on /e/ and even then you'd have an uphill battle.

Maybe try adding a penis or two and sprinkle a little bit of cum here and there.
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why are most gens in this thread so penis focused
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>>8173746
both the shirow and onono imoko datasets have plenty of censored images in them so maybe that.
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>>8173768
penis is the entry price hdg, everything else is e or u
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>>8173768
Idk, I think this thread should have more blushing, embarrassed, surprised girls that get their shirt pulled up/skirt pulled down.
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I think jordach is just scared of flow matching models.
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>>8173772
could you post one you made
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>>8173152
box pls
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>>8173775
check the 'cord
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>>8173773
What does this mean?
>>
>>
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>>8173781
This means he will never take a straight path to baking a model.
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>forgot to turn off a character lora while genning others
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>>8173795
And? What was the result?
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>>8173797
oversaturation, among other stuff
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how do i get that typical anime look with ponyv6 ? source_anime doesnt do it
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>>8173804
you probably want a different finetuned model, this was something like "mistoon" for example
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>>8173804
(hews:0.1)

style loras
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Grr.. damn ninja young adult. Attacking an ojisan. Honor correction is needed.
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>>8173808
this is why local will always be better
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what is hdg average iq
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>>8173810
101
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>>8173804
drop score tags first off

then >>8173806 prompt an anime-looking artist, even at low strength
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>>8173810
How would you have felt, if you hadn't eaten breakfast?
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>>8173813
but I ate breakfast
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But not our Jordach! Couldn't be precious Jordach! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a baker!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you – you have to stop him! You-
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>>8173821
Stop, just wasted 400sq and didn't get her
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>>8173813
Nigga whachyu talkin bout I ate dem breakfasts??
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>>8173823
get out that card
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kitty
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>>8173827
If the gacha was more reasonably priced, I would, but 95$ for a 33% chance at a jpeg is ridiculous. I wonder if it's really the most profitable pricing to just farm the 0.1% of whale players instead of making the gacha a little more attractive to casuals.
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>>8173816
>>8173830
isnt this technically a western character?
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>>8173834
i thought league of legends was made in california
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>>8173804
prompt an anime artist bro
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>>8173813
hungy
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>>8173831
Genshin shows that it's better to let people mostly get the character they want, then get the whales with upgrades like constellation and weapons.

F2p on genshin can mostly guarantee any character they want, and spending 5$/month gives you a fair chance at getting the majority of chars
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>>8173833
Read the rules again, western characters are fine as long as they're done in an eastern style. Which I'm not saying that one is, but in general it's fine.
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>>8173855
its less the rules and more the sticky im referencing
>Images of "Western" origin and style will be removed.
is super vague and could be interpreted as the character origin if you want to argue semantics
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>>8173854
Yeah and weirdly it's also balanced around C0, in fact you can probably beat the whole game with just 4*. Other than the biweekly dungeon that gives currency, as that's just a dps check.
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>>8173856
That's what I was talking about. Origin of the image, eg drawn by an eastern artist, no mention of the image's content. Though in theory that means all of /hdg/ is offtopic since we're not japanese, but this rule is not enforced in drawthreads either.
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>>8173854
FGO is just completely retarded in that regard. Even if I had some 100K plus job that enabled me to spend hundreds on stupid shit like mobile games, I still wouldn't have the time for all the retarded grinding. A fully maxed out character is basically reserved for neets with millions in inheritance.
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>>8173859
i guess its just up for mod interpretation, ive seen western characters get removed that had anime style but arguing what is anime style seems to be a waste of time around here recently
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>>8173860
The fact that it doesnt have autoplay is retarded anyways
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>>8173859
>Though in theory that means all of /hdg/ is offtopic since we're not japanese
what do the posters have to do with anything? the actual artists being posted itt are almost all taiwanese
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>>8173857
It's balanced around le girl gamers beating it on their phone, there is no challenge
>>
Anyone willing to try this meme optimizer lol?
https://pytorch-optimizers.readthedocs.io/en/latest/optimizer/#pytorch_optimizer.GrokFastAdamW
Just pip install pytorch-optimizer then type "pytorch_optimizer.GrokFastAdamW" in the optimizer_type field
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>>8173865
>gacha
>challenge
pick one
it's nearly always a grind/bank account check
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>>8173861
Stuff getting removed for /aco/ style is already rare, it has to be really egregious and get a lot of reports. Mostly you just get yelled at. Characters should be totally fine, unless it's like the simpsons where you just can't get rid of their base style.
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>>8173869
Have you tried arknights? It's one where I actually enjoy the gameplay, just skip all the daily grind shit and play new content or the roguelike mode.
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>reweik
>get worse with each version
Why are model maker always doing this
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>>8173870
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7902202
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7401420
it doesn't look quite right but it works
heh
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>>8173873
Because they aren't model makers.
They got lucky once and think they can keep repeating that luck forever.
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>>8173873
I'd understand sunk cost fallacy if you actually paid subscription for these models but it's just a 3 minute download, check it out, it's shit, move on to other models. Stop being so attached to a model/architecture/optimizer/ui/shitmix/step number/cfg
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>>8173874
Looks much better than I expected, although I wouldn't recognize them without tags.
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>>8173882
Im not attached to it I just dont get the logic behind
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>>8173884
Almost feels like it's the standard on local. based64, pony, autismmix, reweik, a one-off fluke success and the author doesn't even understand why it worked.
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Been getting some better flux results with loras by using joycaption and then a LLM (Mistral large)
I send both the caption and tags and tell it to improve the caption using the extra info from the tags.
It's still pretty shit desu, like lots of potential but flux needs a full fine tune not what I can do on a couple of 3090s
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>>8173887
Yeah exactly, maybe they try to change too much things instead of keeping it mostly the same and just improving the lacking part bit by bit, worst thing about reweik is that v13 is so insanely 3D that when i tried to make up for it with more artist I just fucked the hands and genitals, maybe its bad with lora I dont know
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>>8173866
why not try it yourself and post results
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>>8173887
ebara too
like the other anon said it's because the people who baked all of those models mostly got there by luck, so they can't understand what they did right to get there again
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>>8173915
The picture is just there to tell you she has cat ears
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>>8173152

Vanillebox ?
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>>8173912
I and my GPU are busy doing other things...
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>>8173922
artist style ?
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>>8173902
>just improving the lacking part bit by bit
What do you even want to improve?
Don't tell me something like "make it so the hands never look retarded" because even much larger, better models are still fucking up hands, though not as often as things based on SDXL.

We've already hit the limits of what SDXL can do long ago. New checkpoints have nothing to give you except for a new/different "baseline" art style.

If it's about sex poses that aren't built in to Pony, just use a LoRA.
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>>8173915
fixed
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>>8173925
Oh shit I was going to go link to the lora but it looks like it was taken down off civitai. It's a Polocom lora. It also makes cute chibis.
https://x.com/Polocom_EN

Reuploaded it
https://litter.catbox.moe/qnu17v.safetensors
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>>8173925
you should get the catbox extension
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>>8173922
hey where'd you get this photo of me
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>>8173920
Should've made her show off her eyes and forehead on the photo.
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>>8173930
based
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>>8173929
Yeah I guess that make sense, ideally I would want a model with good lora compability and good base colors, I guess I would not think about it that way if the different model version were not using increasing numbers and used random descriptive words instead
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I still hope Cascade 3.6 would magically solve all of it's issues and teach naisisses some object permanence.
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>>8173929
I think we are in a new cope phase, like how people were going "All we need to do is keep stapling shit onto 1.5 and that will be enough" before Pony was dropped. I cannot even remember the name of the Furry 1.5 thing that was being passed around, but nobody seems to use it anymore.
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>>8173941
there's like a 1% chance of that happening so you should start praying now
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>>8173942
ef+hll or whatever it was, i actually got annoyed at how many loop you had to jump through to get better quality and took a break from genning when it got popular
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>>8173941
I don't know about Stable Cascade, but I tried SD3 to do SFW stuff. It was so bad I couldn't believe it. It's much, much harder to generate things that aren't completely distorted with SD3 than with SDXL. SD3 might even mangle human limbs more often than 1.5 !!! I think all the talents left Stability AI for greener pasture.
Don't expect SAI to fix anything wrong with their current set of models.
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>>8173942
almost nobody here used it before, either. it was ok but not a major improvement
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>>8173945
good morning newfriend
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>>8173947
spotted the SAI employee
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>>8173951
please lurk for 2 months before posting
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>>8173946
Nah it was huge when it showed up cause you could stop using loras for sex poses, but it didn't work well with existing style loras and the styles on it were hit and miss. Also, pony dropped like two months later.
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ef+hll still mogs cascade 1b desu
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>>8173955
I have followed this thread since the days of waifudiffusion. Troll harder, SAI employee.
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>>8173957
me drawing in paint mogs cascade 1b
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>>8173958
you must not have been here in over half a year then if you're not aware of the cascade model people are talking about
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>>8173945
>I think all the talents left Stability AI for greener pasture.
You think? It's a fact that they all left for BFL and made flux, lol.
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>>8173960
"I don't know about Cascade" doesn't mean I've never heard of it at all, autist who only read in the most literal fashion. I haven't used it, ergo I don't know about it. It's hard to understand in a thread filled with people who like to talk about the things they haven't used, right?
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>>8173962
i could have just told you if you asked nicely but here: we're not talking about sai's base cascade but about a furryfag finetune of it by some guy named jordach
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>>8173962
look at the newfag trying to defend himself
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>>8173966
Oh, nevermind. Furry shit, I don't want to know.
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>>8173970
out of curiosity, have you not been here in months or is this your first day posting here?
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>>8173970
NTA but you MAYBE do want to know since half of it's dataset is anime and doesn't has artist tags pruned or hashed, around 2.6M images of anime sources and 3.6M of furry for a total of 6M
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>>8173975
Now that you mention it, weird that he included furries and anime but not /aco/
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>>8173980
what a waste
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>>8173866
i think you might need to do a bit more than just select it as an optimizer
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>>8173986
Maybe this optimizer optimizes the parameter count, because that's 1b there on the right!
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>>8173943
Let's pray, brothers and sisters... For our Lord and Saviour Jordach Christ...
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>>8173986
>the only things that doesnt look weird is the 3D dick
alright
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>>8173930
kek
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i puked
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>>8174012
Why does he have neck testicles?
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>>8173986
Did you save earlier epochs?
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>>8173603
I'm not home right now but I believe that
>From above, male out of frame, kneeling, bent over, fellatio, penis grab
Helped with the composition, later at night I can post some boxes
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>>8174019
>>8173603
Nta but adding onto what he said you can prompt ass, kneeling or on all four but just prompting ass will help a lot already
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>>8174018
it's 1 epoch, the dataset is 7,000 images.
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>>8173866
It only works with tiny toy models. It won't work with SD
If you want a working meme optimizer - try Adan from your link. Set adanorm=True, and use LR 10-20 times higher than usual. It will be fast too
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>>8173980
Pretty good, catbox?
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>>8174027
>Adan
But is it faster than Lion?
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>>8174031
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>>8174072
uh what's that on her leg
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just saw this snake-oil:
https://github.com/NousResearch/DisTrO/blob/main/A_Preliminary_Report_on_DisTrO.pdf
https://x.com/nousresearch/status/1828121648383566270
it would allow for distributed training over the internet, so we could circlejerk gpus together to finally train a model. if true, it's likely still a year away from being usable. at least the idea isn't forgotten
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>>8174085
not the first time people have tried to claim this
in general it's safe to assume such claims come from grifters and cryptojeets until they actually release a working prototype
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>>8174084
I was trying to be sneaky. You caught me!
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>>8174085
if computing power was the only issue for ai model that would be actually usefull, giving infinite computing power to retard will just make the model worse because there is less worry about wasting money and time so they will just put some slop together with awfull settings
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>>8174085
Surely nobody would join the effort and contribute gradient ascend updates.
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>>8174085
Nous more like no use, amiright?
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>>8174085
oh nonono griftersirs the githubbers are getting uppity
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What can I do with Comfy that I can't do in Forge? My friend keeps telling me how comfy is better because it gives you more freedom but I don't understand what's so good about it, and when I ask him he just tells me "you have to use it to understand) like some latent node trickery that doesn't make any sense to me
In terms of output, what is different?
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>>8174131
We're tired of this debate here so just use whatever you're comfortable with or go to /sdg/
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>>8174138
very good anon
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>>8173704
buh-buh-buh-based
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>>8174135
Alright. Is there anywhere else I can read on this as well? I can only find tutorials
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>>8174131
I'll give you an uncommon answer: if you can code - use comfy, it is much easier to extend. Otherwise stick with forge.
Unless you want to toy around with the insides and run your own "mad science", you don't need comfy because everything that is mainstream gets ported to forge anyway and the UI of forge is simply... comfier.
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>>8174151
Oof, I cannot code. I admit that I think the nodes thingy looks cool as heck but I was lost when I used it for a few hours.
Said friend mentioned something about using both XL and 1.5 models at the same time and it blew my mind, that's the kind of mad science you can run right? Thanks for the insight!
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>>8173631
Surprisingly, full bf16 training with optimi.Lion and kahan_sum=True gives pretty good results. And with a little bit of pain I offloaded both text encoders to a second GPU so now I can enable gradient accumulation and use as large batch sizes as I want with base BS3 at 1024x and BS2 at 1280x. No less surprising is the fact that changing timestep sampling method from uniform to lognorm(0,1), as in SD3 paper, while ignoring any kinds of dirty tricks like MinSNR or debiased estimation, it gives really good results as well despite barely training on the last timestep. It's actually insane how old and inefficient this SDXL arch is desu.
>>8173637
I also forgot to include the last crucial line that would rescale 0-1 to 0-1000, lol. But this graph is a bit too fancy, it seems, so here it is lognorm(0,1) timestep sampling for kohya. If someone is willing to experiment with their LoRAs, then this should be it. Just use this and disable MinSNR/Debiased estimation, it should work for epsilon sampling all the same.
>timesteps = torch.sigmoid(torch.normal(mean=0, std=1, size=(b_size,), device=device))
>timesteps = (max_timestep * timesteps).long()
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Which of these three waifus are we exposing to tremendous amounts of acceleration today in the centrifuge anons?

>>8174131
Comfy is good if you want to try to automate a larger workflow for image gen.
For example, what you could do in comfy (if you're familiar with adetailer on forge/auto), is split your prompt up in different text boxes- - one for face, style, body (etc.). Then reuse the face prompt and concatenate something like "portrait,face focus" to it before passing it to a adetailer node automatically, meaning you don't have to manually type in your prompt for face details twice both in the normal and adetailer prompt.

What I would not recommend using comfy for is inpainting, It's imo difficult compared forge/auto, unless anyone here can prove to me it's a skill issue or has a extension that makes it easier.

>>8174157
NTA but kinda yes? You can gen a initial image first using sd1.5/sdxl, then run that same image through comfy's equivalent of img2img/controlnet. Very similar to forge/auto, if that makes sense.
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>>8173816
damn can you drop the catbox?
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>>8174163
Gonna start the full rebake in a few hours, so If anyone is willing to share their well-captioned datasets (with tags unpruned), I'll be extremely pleased to include them in my dataset. So hurry up if you want something to be included in v-pony.
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>>8174167
That adetailer tip is a good way to think about character composition, nice! Usually I go full lazy route and use the same prompt as the full image (by leaving it blank) so it isn't that good.
>inpainting isn't that good
Bweh. I suck at inpainting, having another layer of difficulty would destroy me. I wish someone would prove you/us wrong here.
>txt2img + img2img workflow for 1.5/sdxl
Ohh yeah, when I tried doing it on default forge I had to do lots of back and forth, with comfy I should be able to do it all in a single gen. Thanks for the detailed answer!
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>>8174177
Her thigh is turning into a ghost..
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What is expressiveH even doing and why is it so popular
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>>8174181
yeah, all of these autobg removers are bad. they also left a black portion between the spoon and her neck
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>>8174163
>And with a little bit of pain I offloaded both text encoders to a second GPU so now I can enable gradient accumulation and use as large batch sizes as I want
Sound very useful for a multi gpu setups to break a constraints of 24gb. Could you share how you did that? Or maybe even send a pr to sd-scripts repo for that?
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>>8174192
It's hardcoded for my config (and it's actually in its own separate thread, think it gives me maybe 1s/it less?) but basically you have to wrangle accelerate first for it to detect all your gpus without starting multigpu training and then you just send text_encoder1.to("cuda:1"), then after it's done you send hidden_states1.to(accelerator.device)
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>https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-8-1.html
>Support and optimizations for the latest 2.1 version of Amuse application with FLUX.1 model support.
>Amuse 2.1 is supported on Radeonâ„¢ 7000 Series, Ryzenâ„¢ AI 300, 8040 & 7040 Series
>FLUX.1 model is supported on Radeonâ„¢ RX 7900 series, AMD Radeonâ„¢ PRO W7900 and AMD Radeonâ„¢ PRO W7800 graphics cards.
>Minimum 32GB system RAM required.
nice
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just in case mods = fags box https://files.catbox.moe/i2gyrr.jpg
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>>8174206
if you really want a laugh, technically this is all /e/ because i think you need a penetrative object to make it /h/
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>>8174199
I must add that this saves about 2.5gb of VRAM, not really enough to "break" constraints but it was enough for me to double the device batch size and enable gradient accumulation.
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>>8174167
Use MaskDetailer node from Impact pack instead of the built-in inpaint, it works the same way as on auto. Basically adetailer but you set the inpaint mask instead of having it autodetect an area.
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>>8174151
If you want to do mad science, just write your own scripts with diffusers. Why bog yourself down with shitty node graphs?
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>>8174184
Should have used the NovelAI one!
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any good latent alternatives or a fix for this? i like the resulting style but the lines are rough and ugly, while the other upscalers are too sharp and kinda ruins the style
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>>8174020
>>8174126
based
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>>8174184
assuming that's layerdiffuse or whatever, how well it works can be really dependent on lora's and vary by seed.
some lora's will not play nice with it at all and will give you a lot of the weird shaded background shit.
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>>8174236
based
>>8174235
cringe
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>>8174236
finally some quality hentai for our US folks
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>>8174236
cute
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>>8174174
>well-captioned
>with tags unpruned
good captioning involves removing junk (10s,20s) more than it does adding more. i set up a system that keeps information in a json including the original tags and auto-tagger tags, and then runs a processing script over them to remove garbage, sort tags, and write the final .txt that way nothing is ever actually lost if I ever decide to change tagging to a different format like NLP.
i'd suggest setting up a similar automated system so you can just throw names at it and have it sort things out without hassle. it's much easier to remove duplicates, absurd ratio images, and other unwanted things on an artist-by-artist/character-by-character basis
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>change up prompt for new style mix i enjoy
>gens coming out utter shit, no idea why
>add BREAK between the 1girl and 1boy lines
>fixed
now i feel silly
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>>8174211
my actual reaction to that information
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>>8174249
you are so cute oh my god
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>>8173704
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>>8174252
wtf I though it was Live2D
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>>8174252
I respect doing it in blender. Live2d is fucking disgusting.
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>>8174252
do you masturbate to your own reflection
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>>8174252
uhh baste
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>>8174252
BASED BASED BASED
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>>8174252
>effort so high that isn't even using the slop machine
I-I kneel...
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>>8174249
I really like her eyes, box?
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>>8174264
See, would an artist be able to do an intricately detailed picture like that?
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>>8174240
I meant I want to include datasets that didn't prune character features such as hair color and stuff like that. I mostly obtained my dataset via grabber and managed it manually via waifuset which has some extremely useful features and grabber but I'm not ready to setup a fully automated captioning pipeline/db right now.
>10s,20s
I don't think those are useless tags for a finetune though
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>>8174235
It is just rembg applied on an existing image. nothing to do with any latent parts or loras
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>>8174268
https://files.catbox.moe/1mxnss.png
https://files.catbox.moe/gl6dxj.png
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just noticed i had another typo in my artist tags so enjoy the random noise ig
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>>8174283
Beautiful!
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>>8174283
nice style, albeit it doesn't quite fit the character. Also, what's wrong with her head?
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>>8174283
bbc is love, bbc is life
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>>8174275
Thank you king
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>>8174275
I keep seeing this "(qppp:1.2) mox fyx" lately, evne with the same weight. Is that like a generic anime mix and then you put other stuff on top?
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>>8174289
it's just me bro, i did some x/ys and testing on pony artist tags recently. it's supposed to be moc, not mox, that was the typo
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>>8174199
What lines exactly is that? I'm just curious and want to test speeds with lora script, not ft one
>>8174217
Yeah, but those gbs could make the difference for something bigger than xl, it's gonna be useful especially for something bigger in the future to offload encoders. Are you from lmg? Not many guys from diffusion threads have a multiple gpu setups
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>>8173704
>>8174252
/hdg/ is over, no one will ever put in more effort than this chad
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>>8174297
this is a perfectly reasonable take
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>>8174297
>Christian Incel
my sides
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>>8173406
Based
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>>8174297
imo this guy is wrong. people aren't going to start using v7 if there's no good flux finetune, they're only going to use v7 if there's no good flux finetune and v7 is somehow a generational leap over 6. but auraflow is evidently shit and it took 6 attempts for astralite to get a usable model for sdxl
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>>8174252
are you the guy that made the 2B one a while ago?
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>>8174297
does he think astralite is making forge or am I misunderstanding?
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>>8174252
i kneel
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Come on, /hdg/ do the needful and share some quality datasets. I know multiple autistic lora-braindamaged anons are reading this. >>8174174
>>8174295
>What lines exactly is that?
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/d5c076cf9007f86f6dd1b9ecdfc5531336774b2f/sdxl_train.py#L485
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/d5c076cf9007f86f6dd1b9ecdfc5531336774b2f/library/train_util.py#L4744
>it's gonna be useful especially for something bigger in the future to offload encoders
I thought flux scripts already offload text encoders to the cpu, no?
>Are you from lmg?
Not really, but I've been running some 3.5 bpw 70Bs
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>>8174299
nice
Way better than me trying to train this style off of NAI images.
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how fat should cat tats
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>>8174316
okay
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>000201
>000202
>000102
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>>8174316
https://mega.nz/folder/P74i0ARB#LRfLeOUfVEy_UnkyQ0InWw
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>>8174316
I made loras but really I don't trust my datasets are any better than just chucking stuff in to grabber really. For some I even removed artist tags and such because I didn't want pony getting confused on shit it didn't even know, and all my styles have activation tags removed anyway. It's probably best to just grabber stuff you like or you get suggested, as lora datasets aren't entirely applicable to finetuning. Here's some generic suggestions:
>dishwasher1910
>atdan
>freng
>rhasta
>fumihiko
>masami chie
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>>8172749
Usually those who cry wolf the loudest are the most guilty. Jew tactics oy vey goyim don’t look over here look over there that bad man is touching the little children. They go back to sucking bleeding baby dicks
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>>8174316
>I thought flux scripts already offload text encoders to the cpu, no?
T5 is just untrainable and clip_l is just too small to even think about it, there is separation of single and double blocks for offloading, but not for te's and on cpu only, not on the second card, so this could be useful, kohya maybe don't have a second gpu or don't want to bother testing it
>Not really, but I've been running some 3.5 bpw 70Bs
It's too small for a two 24gbs, you could fit 4.5 with 16k it it was trained with gqa if you using integrated graphics from intel/amd for your monitor

Anyway, I've changed this lines 118,119,138,139,152,153,154 in the script https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/sd3/sdxl_train_network.py
But it's still doesn't make effect, like only 200mb was allocated and second card is chilling most the time, maybe just drop the changed files so I could diff change the lora training script with it? Not sure what to do with the other script inside the library folder too
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>>8174316
>I know multiple autistic lora-braindamaged anons are reading
all my datasets are extremely specialized and I prune tags in a really specific way to prevent bleed, which isn't really conducive to what you'd want.
and all of the stuff I've been working on recently is an eclectic mess and I'm not going to spend time to break it out and label shit.
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>>8174236
The best thing about fucking her is the more worn out she gets the thinner she becomes. As time goes on her pussy gets tighter and tighter as her reiatsu leaks out
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>>8174344
keyed
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Did the Flux copium finally run out?
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>>8174360
How do you get this soft look on local?
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Back after a long hiatus

What's the status of hdg? Still everyone using autismmix?
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>>8174364
no people realized it sucks dick
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>>8174363
not sure, i mostly use wildcards (including lora in wildcards), here is the catbox if it helps
https://files.catbox.moe/rd0cpj.png
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>>8174365
what do they use now? Is that "flux" thing everyone talks about ready?
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>>8174338
>400mb worth of pure artist- and character-free lowres booru conceptslop
This looks like an attempt to gimp the model tbhtbh. I've asked for quality datasets.
>>8174339
>>8174348
Yeah I guess I just underestimated the level of sloppiness of the regular lora datasets. You can't really trust loraslop-style datasets as-is for a kind of finetune I'm doing. Thanks for the artist list though.
>>8174346
>T5 is just untrainable
I never said you can train the TE with my implementation. It's a bare-minimum implementation just to get unet finetune working without caching the embeddings.
>It's too small for a two 24gbs
Because I don't have two 24gbs
>But it's still doesn't make effect
You've changed something else, track where the TE is actually being loaded and send it to another gpu from there
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back after a week, what is the best model for anime????
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stop being so obvious omg dude
if u gonna shitpost at least do it right
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>>8174373
haven't opened the thread in 7 minutes, is 3.6b ready yet?
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>>8174377
how much emphasis did you put on your ces?
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>>8174372
best model is your brain with a stylus in your hand
now go draw instead of shitposting anon
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>>8174368
reweik mostly
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>>8174371
>This looks like an attempt to gimp the model tbhtbh. I've asked for quality datasets.
I guess 2_inside and 2_forward are salvageable but the rest is pure slop.
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>>8174367
Thanks for the box, might be the model, what do you think about it?
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>>8174384
looks like we have a meltie
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cascade won. jordach fixed every 'issue' (not that there were any) in the latest 1b epoch. 1b really is all you need
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>>8174388
So much this, unironically, where can i download the fabled capgui?
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>>8174385
it may be, i use that model most of the time nowadays
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>>8174375
nah we still on 3.6a
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>>8174388
The eyes are fucked? Just train a lora bro, just fix them manually in photoshop, You should never expect perfection, will just leave you disappointed
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best openpose controlnet for use with pony?
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just finished marathoning the latest monogatari episode. do we have an anime flux finetune yet?
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>>8174399
>marathoning
>episode
kekd out loud
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Just finished my dinner. I had spaghetti.
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Just finished.
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>>8174398
this but unironically
artwork should never take more than 5 minutes to create
the machine needs to keep running at full steam nigga my clients expect 500 new pictures a day
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>>8174371
>I never said you can train the TE with my implementation. It's a bare-minimum implementation just to get unet finetune working without caching the embeddings.
You mean you are not training encoders when offloading it to a second card? Whats the point of finetuning then?
T5 is just untrainable atm, not because of your implementation https://github.com/huggingface/diffusers/blob/main/examples/dreambooth/README_flux.md#text-encoder-training
>You've changed something else, track where the TE is actually being loaded and send it to another gpu from there
I want try to train it while offloading on a second gpu for the test, not just start it without oom
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>>8174398
I am, actually. Don't want it to take even longer though.
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>>8174409
Nah, we're stilll scraping together funds for the 'cord exclusive model. Doesn't look good tho, maybe this is the project that finally breaks us
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>>8174392
I meant what do you think about the model, how is pose compability?
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>>8174406
>Whats the point of finetuning then?
Styles, characters and colors.
>I want try to train it while offloading on a second gpu for the test, not just start it without oom
In that case I imagine you'd have to offload everything TE-related to a second gpu and then only transfer data to the first gpu that's required for backwards diffusion step. I think it should be quite straightforward to implement once the text encoder is on the second GPU, just run it and see where the error points you.
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>>8174424
>Styles, characters and colors.
How will tenc separate styles and characters afterwards, when you are not training it?
>In that case I imagine you'd have to offload everything TE-related to a second gpu and then only transfer data to the first gpu that's required for backwards diffusion step.
I'm just not that good with coding to try it
>I think it should be quite straightforward to implement once the text encoder is on the second GPU, just run it and see where the error points you.
Well, it just throws error saying all tensors should be on the same device
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>>8174371
model is dead without concepts and yeah, i have a much more pruned dataset but it didn't turn out as well in bakes

turns out if you avoid censored images and koikatsy your pool shrinks quite greatly, but those are poison, what can you do
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is Astralite really a jeetoid?
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>>8174432
>Well, it just throws error saying all tensors should be on the same device
Read the traceback
>>8174436
Koikatsu pics aren't poison as far as I'm aware if they're tagged as koikatsu. Also, they'll probably help bringing pony's innate knowledge since I practically didn't include such in my dataset.
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>>8173769
Nice style, boxy?
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>>8174371
also, lol at the idea that someone cares enough about your model to intentionally try to sabatoge it, get off it dude
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>>8174438
per aspera ad astralitehearpurple5mart.ai
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>>8174420
what's this? it doesn't looks like pony
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>>8174441
i'm going to do another big rescrape of everything since my methodology was mostly for shit ass 1.5 training. the stuff i collected since i started training on pony has more focus on visual fidelity, and in the future i'll include more varied stuff, but i'm not gonna do it without a good reason e.g. flux finetune
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im trying to get specifically the following
>one half blonde hair
>one hald black hair
>eye with blonde hair is blue
>eye with black hair is grey
>my current approach is (two-tone hair:1.2), ([black hair:0.6:blonde hair:0.6]:1.2), (heterochromia:1.2), [grey eyes:blue eyes:0.6],
what is the best way to do this because i am rteally struggling to get all 4 of those. it usually fails on the grey eye. pic related
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>>8174446
Unfortunately it is a ponymix
https://files.catbox.moe/yy7g08.png
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>>8174454
use one of the region prompt extensions
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>>8174457
im thinking thats my best option at this point
>>8174456
but theyre so fucking awful to get right
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>>8174454
>generade blonde hair
>open in mspaint
>color one half black
>img2img
Stop trying to tard wrangle SD to do complex composition. It's a waste of time.
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>>8174458
nah, for upper body shots it's ez
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>>8174459
this is my #2 pick
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>>8174459
So much this, doodle to remove or add things through mspaint and then inpaint is my favorite hack
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>>8174462
ill be doing a lot more than just upper body shots
>>8174459
the hair isnt so much of a problem as is the eyes
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>>8174455
thanks, probably cleanest colors on pony i've seen and lack of this fucking gloss
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>>8174454
regional prompter can do this no problem
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>>8174468
yeah but getting it right is also really fucking annoying
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>>8174454
flux can solve this
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>>8174467
Thx. Named it PonyColors for the same reason but It has been nerfed as the previous version was too vibrant
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>>8174454
Gather a dataset, edit each image to color the eyes and hair the way you want (probably makes it easier if you can get images that already have split-color hair), tag appropriately, train a lora. Only go through this effort if this is your OC that you are going to gen a lot of.
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>>8174469
no it isn't
it's actually trivial, unless you don't know what you're doing or you're using a meme frontend like Comfy
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>>8174469
Comfy prolly could do some workflow where the regional prompt is only active for comfy adetailer equivalent
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>>8174475
>no it isn't
in my experience it is not pleasant to do regional prompting at all. this is what i used last time https://github.com/hako-mikan/sd-webui-regional-prompter
does forge have a built in one that i dont know about?
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>>8174475
You mean setting up the workflow? They do the same thing under the hood.
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>>8174477
well the good news is, rng threw me a bone on this one, so i know it can work
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>>8174480
Comfy doesn't have a neat text-to-region parser like the webuis do.
>>8174478
Pretty sure all the webui forks use the same thing.
It's not rocket science, you set up the regions, you move the tag to the right section, it just werks.
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>>8174354
This man knows
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>>8174486
so lets say youre doing a shot with 2 girls, one on top one on bottom, both wholly different attributes. what would that look like because i imagine id have to figure out the proper ratios to get things to appear just right in the right sections and that sounds way too tedious
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>>8174486
Like, this is the equivalent workflow in Comfy. If I wanted more than two regions I'd have to fiddle with even more nodes or manually paint and reload the mask through the dialog every time.
It's not Comfy in the slightest.
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>>8174486
>Comfy doesn't have a neat text-to-region parser like the webuis do.
Indeed, on comfy you can draw the region masks however you want without any imposed rectangle-shaped region limitations
https://files.catbox.moe/njchgj.png

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>>8174492
Rectangles are fine 90% of the time.
Anything can be expressed with rectangles if you have enough of them.
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>>8174489
oohooohhhh i'am gonna cummmmm!!
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>>8174495
Biggest problem I've observed with text to region were people not understanding how ADDCOM ADDCOL ADDROW worked. Whoever implemented that extension was too lazy to implement a rectangle draw on a canvas as it should have been
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>>8174492
same for the regional prompting extension in forge except that it's 1000 times easier and quicker and you don't have to change your entire workflow if you want one more region
i've mostly switched to comfy but regional prompting is the one thing that always makes me wish i was still using forge
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>>8174499
Gligen
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>>8174499
>>8174501
might give this one a swing honestly. i guess im just a brainlet
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>>8174502
If you just want to make an eye grey, inpainting is still the best option.
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>>8174503
no id be trying to make her and her sister getting railed at the same time so its going to be really annoying to use regional prompting for this, and i might just have to settle for inpainting for all of it
im not opposed to it i just wish it was easier to deal with
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>>8174490
It's doable, and you can get a good bit of control over the composition, but it takes fiddling, you specify *what* is happening in the scene in the common prompt, then describe the actors in their appropriate regions. The regions do have some bleedthrough so it's not absolute and you have some leeway (which is double edges sword).
Pardon the futa cock, it's about the least /d/ thing I have that demonstrates regional prompting.
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>>8174506
Couldn't you have done a cooperative handjob, it's way easier and also /h/
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>>8174506
can you show me the exact settings for the regional prompt, and the tags. ill forgive the /d/ content just because im trying to better understand it
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>>8174506
hot but the drow's arm is disappearing
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>>8174510
https://files.catbox.moe/pd55y3.png
Here you go.
Mind you this is a high-schizo prompt due to various weirdness and pony's reluctance to generate black skin.
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>>8174515
thanks. i think im going to reevaluate how im gonna do some stuff now. its a pain but it may be worth it
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>>8174471
Thats not gonna fly if Rex learn about this
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>>8174517
be ready to reroll
a lot
might aswell inpaint
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>>8174521
>>8174515
What is the purpose of setting up regions and masks and addon spaghetti to achieve a specific image? I understand people cook entire bathtubs worth of spaghetti in Comfy to have a reproducible workflow for something that would be very tedious to repeat manually, but how often do you need that particular threesome scene, really?
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>>8174532
based illiterate anon
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The true purpose for everything
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>>8174533
Literate me.
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>>8174532
What an inane question.
I did it to prove it can be done.
Are you brown perchance?
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>>8174536
if you could read you would be able to figure out that the person you're replying to is using a forge extension
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>>8174532
What if I want something specific isntead of being at the whim of the ai doing whatever it want
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>>8174538
No, but I ate breakfast
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>>8174534
indeed
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1girl, {tianliang duohe, fangdongye, ciloranko}, flat chest
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>>8174541
You inpaint, which takes a fraction of the time. That was the point.

>>8174540
>>8174538
This samefag doesn't even understand the question.
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What the fuck
Why did I never wanted to use forge couple until now
This crap is so helpful and fucking braindead to use at the same time
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>>8174549
setting up regional prompter takes literally 30 seconds but i guess it might be too hard for somebody too stupid to read
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>>8174548
>>>/b/
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once more this shouldn't need a catbox yet here we are
https://files.catbox.moe/uenvtr.png
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>>8174555
based 20yo
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>>8174553
*Sigh* fine ....
Score_9, score_8_up, source_anime, 1girl, 1boy, dark skinned
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>>8174555
no matter how much you cry underage shit still goes on /b/
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>>8173603
Here's the box
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>>8174555
cute
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>>8174569
Another one for good measure
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>>8174551
>be ready to reroll
>a lot
I don't care if it takes 3 seconds to "set up" when takes another 50 kWh of compute to finally get a decent result.
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>>8174574
>50 kWh of compute
Banned in Britain?
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You goyim have yet to realize the power of regional prompting + low strength controlnet
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>>8174532
You make the regional prompt workflow once and then it's reusable, no need to go through it every time.
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>>8174579
i hate armpits
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>>8174576
was this post made 1.5 years ago
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>>8174582
there's not one more erotic body part
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Is this how it works? She just eats it and we're safe?
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>>8174589
no, it needs a live dose to become a cum vaccine
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>>8174578
Reusable for the exact same position? Maybe I'm just autistic, but after I gen something once I don't really care about seeing the same thing a second time.
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>>8174579
Amazing perky tits
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>>8174422
about poses and more i'm not sure, i mostly do 1 girl etc, but you can try the model, I think i got it months ago on civitai
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>>8174576
unless you're doing something real hyper specific you don't really need both. generally just the low strength controlnet will work if you've got a proper reference and not trying to do something too esoteric.
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>>8173957
because ef+hll was good actually
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>>8174582
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Any paid models that actually have a web ui that I don't have to set up?
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>>8174613
The link in the OP literally says there's no web ui and you have to set it up from a GitHub repo
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>>8174622
nai could never
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>>8174616
retard-kun i kneel
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>>8174622
two weren't enough
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>>8174622
you wouldn't get it
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>log into civitai to see >>8174622
>haven't logged in ever since i made the account
>1 notification
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>>8174604
>>8174612
>>8174628
i cant believe youve done this to me. take it to /e/
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Isn't it a little presumptuous to use the catbox extension to upload images as doesn't it come across as you assuming people will be asking for the catbox of your image?
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>>8174633
anon...
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https://files.catbox.moe/4uraar.png
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>>8174641
this is the weakest bait i've seen all week, run-on sentence anonie.
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>>8174648
I saw everyone else doing one and I wanted to feel included.
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So since gguf is getting used in flux. Is it all possible to do the same with SDXL? It'd be cool if I could boost my resolution even more. Maybe even just quantizing the Vae somehow would be nice if possible.
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>>8174650
it's alright, we forgive you
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>>8174636
No, I don't think so
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>>8174652
There's probably a tool for quantizing models. Just Yandex it bro.
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>>8174645
me about 2 weeks ago, anon.
The only problem can sometimes arise from interactions. Like "arm around shoulder". I think the best practice is to overlap 2 squares, for example, but then the tagging for the proper square can be gacha. You'd imagine you want to tag the square doing arm around shoulder but I've seemed to have more success tagging the other or both.
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>>8174686
love seeing boobs from the back view -w-
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>>8174641
preemptive catboxing eliminates anon trolling you by ironically asking for a box.
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>>8174225
that one also sucks
if you want to remove a bg then prompt a bg in a color your character doesn't use and remove via photoshop
t. naigger
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>>8174686
good shit
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Beaches?
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>>8174703
One breast out would have been hotter
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>>8174705
Nothing competes with her Chyna sized clitty dicky.
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>>8174722
Can't believe he stole MY idea and didn't even credit me. Missing the xray tho.
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>>8174569
>>8174573
Thanks for remembering to post this, and also for the prompt advice
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>>8174252
step aside bros... the real effortposter has arrived
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>>8174252
when can ai do this...
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>>8174768
>wait for good open source video gen / i2v
>train it on exclusively l2d vids
soon
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if the vae decoder step is such an important part of diffusion models (as it's the last step before actual image), why isn't any effort put into that area?
I know changing it to 16 channel vae would require retraining from scratch but I imagine there could be some gains I'm terms of like blurry edges that could be fixed with either some fine tuning or maybe even an anime specific post VAE step where you'd train another VAE sans diffusion model/clip to sharpen things like edges that tend to get fried/melty
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>>8174777
>why isn't any effort put into that area?
the VAE is what creates latents for the model to learn how to denoise. Effort obviously has been put into that area, with several good 16ch vae's having been released recently. The issue is that with popular open source models, as you said, they'd have to be fully retrained from scratch to work with said VAE.
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>>8174783
no please dont leave us
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im going to make miqo'te poster look like a fucking joke
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>he's leaving
/hdg/ is healing
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>>8174656
I'm still mad you can't get a proper armpit job without a lora on pony. I will never forgive.
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>>8174794
Not even on NAI either, I tested. It's very gacha and often the easy way is to inpaint.
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>>8174785
>>8174788
I just thought that LoRA could be cool to mess with, I'm not going anywhere permanently but I am going out of town this weekend, so you can enjoy it while it lasts.
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>>8174806
>so you can enjoy it while it lasts.
did you just admit you're only here to shit up the thread?
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>>8174646
Based.
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Any way to get weird/deformed/ugly penises in Pony? I don't mean basic shit like canine or equine, I'm talking like truly terrifying looking stuff that abominations and monsters might have.
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>>8174807
that's just like your opinion man
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>>8174828
dark-skinned_male is what you're looking for, glhf
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>>8174833
No thanks I don't like them
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>>8174828
There's a lora I've seen someone use for it with spikes and knobs and shit. Think you can get colors / spikes just prompting though from experience anything wild needs a lora.
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>>8174807
No, just a bunch of people here like to complain about me so I figured Id let you know you that you have time to sit and complain in your text threads without me.
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>>8174866
>just a bunch of people here like to complain about me
because you post more /e/ than /h/
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>>8174887
Perfect hdg content. Post if you got some
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>>8174892
looks nice, is that a lora for that style? it is uploaded somewhere?
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>>8174874
If only it was actual /e/.
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>>8174893
https://files.catbox.moe/89e2hs.png
HI3 lora https://files.catbox.moe/s5gms3.safetensors
Tianliang https://mega.nz/folder/FiUlmbaY#THGdabflbUDLMXffz_febQ/folder/Ei8SFRyT
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>>8174904
based, ty anon
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>>8174887
I think that you should kill yourself, as soon as possible.
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This isn't the (white outline, dotted line:1.1) I prompted for, but I like it.
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>>8174916
kill yourself asap pedophile
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where cunny?
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>>8174917
KEK
go to /d/ >>8174918
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>>8174917
All my fictional characters are of legal fictional age in their respective fictional legislatures.
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>no i am not a pedo
yes you fucking are. if you werent you wouldnt have the urge to make a toddler to fuck a woman in every single gen
>b-but i self insert as the male11!!1!
yeah some pedo could say "i self insert as the little girl!1!" and it doesnt makes any difference at all, still pedophilia
for real just kill yourself you pedophile.
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>>8174916
Why post this garbage here instead of /b/?
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Please stick to using .jpg extension for your posts, otherwise I'll filter all images. Thanks.
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>>8174925
>wanting lossy formats
i dont think so. i WILL tax the bandwidth of everyone more just to ensure it is lossless
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>b-b-but MUH /ss/ is different from loli111111!!1!1!1
holy mother of cope. you are a fucking pedophile, you aint fooling no one here.
kill yourself, i said.
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>>8174929
No, it's because only one guy uses jpg, and coincidentally, hated by /hdg/.
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>>8174930
You don't get it saaaaar, he prompts pics full of naked kids because he self-inserts as every single one of them! Not because he's a gay pedophile!
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uh oh, skeletons-in-the-closet-"pedopedopedopedo"-anon meltie
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>>8174930
>/ss/ is different from loli
If you think about it for longer than a second, you will realize that it is. Of course your lolipedo dirtbag criminal monkey brain isn't quite that capable. Kys pedo.
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>n-no wait i hate pedos just like you1!!1!1!1
if its that so, then you should kill yourself because you are one.
if you do, youll die knowing you at least killed one pedophile with your bare hands, thats right: yourself.
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no one hates cathagbro tho? he isn't posting pedophilia at least
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if the anime girl's age is on the clock she's primed for my cock
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>>8174943
KEK
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relax guys, have some cunny

https://files.catbox.moe/l5pnar.png
https://files.catbox.moe/px5shh.png
https://files.catbox.moe/fxfnuh.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6lmawn.png
https://files.catbox.moe/p80jsd.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pujzm6.png
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>b-bro just think about it, (pedophila) is not the same as (pedophilia)
youre just pathetic. seriously, what a pathetic scumbag. do you even read what youre talking about?
you better kill yourself, so we can have one less pedo here itt.
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>>8174949
thanks for #3 i'm gonna impregnate that 17 years 364 days 23 hours and 59 seconds old grandma
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>>8174932
i hate him too but i will still use pngs because of how bad jpg is
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you compain about jpg, yet you participate in using VAE which is worse than jpg.
How curious
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>>8174949
you can go to
>>>/b/
and post them uncatboxed, chuuuuudy!!! ;)
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vae + jpg = 1b cascade quality
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whatever happened to that pixel space model?
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is there a model for the "why is everyone so mean to me" meme? i feel like making use of that
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>GPU goes 100%
>full 8gb of VRAM are being used
>pc is almost unresponsive
My anus is clenching
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>>8174965
I feel you
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guys its easy
his pedophilia pics are not pedophilia because he likes it
simple as
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facts don't matter, all that matters is agenda
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dragon
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>>8174974
her pussy is bigger than my dick
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>>8174974
puffy vulva...
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>8174916
Why is it so blurry?
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melty status?
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so this is what the 4chan dweller's equivalent of screaming get off my lawn looks like
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>>8174974
hey youre from /d/
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>>8174936
>gay pedophile
it's called pederast i think
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>>8174974
>>8174976
Kaka~
>>8174978
Puffy indeed
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>Any way to get weird/deformed/ugly penises in Pony?
>>8174828
That's how most penises on pony look to me.
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>>8174994
Yes I am
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>>8174974
>>8174998
i think i prefer her without a penis now
specially when shes looking so juicy, squishy and with a puffy vulva like that
so nice, pure sexo
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>>8174949
2, 3 and 6 have ugly style and 6 also has weird eyes. 1 4 5 are alright. None are great (it's pony).
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how is everyone getting clear images???? im using cascade and was told its impossible. are you guys cleaning things up yourselves in photoshop?
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Grr... damn magical young adult... ! ! ! Disrupting my . meal. Manners correction is needed.
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very weird bait
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it's flux
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it's cascade
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>>8175018
I'm gonna need a pov mating press with that one
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>>8175018
everyone itt
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>>8175006
She's puro sexo indeed
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sirs no 1.5 allowed
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>>8175028
where's the clara anon
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>>8175024
I think I downloaded some mating press/face concept last week I've yet to test. I'll post something later if it's up to snuff.
>>8175025
Grr...
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>>8175018
Holy fucking shit, so based
>half-elf ugly bastard
Kek
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>>8175037
imagine marrying an elf and producing that abomination
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Why can't I, a loner like me (I'm not even fat tho), be with a cute girl? Genning has been punishing my ego lately...
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>>8175040
He will carry the bloodline with his innate rape ability
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>>8175041
>I'm not even fat tho
Acquire mass, bro
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Last one, gn
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>>8175044
body made of rubber
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>>8175043
I'm not a fucking stick either, I am... Normal? I mean I'm not overweight or skinny
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>>8175046
It's called "oiled up" anon.
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>>8175047
time to work on your personality reps bro
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>>8175049
what are some good personality reps for beginners?
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>>8175049
I play music, I like cooking lots of food and I do pretty damn good grilled steak, I also do calisthenics once per week
I'm pretty sure that I'm not a boring person... I think?
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>>8175047
that's just boring
Become a buff chad or an extremely ugly fat bastard
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just become schizophrenic and hallucinate GF
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>>8175018
B A S ED
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>>8175054
ask better questions in every conversation you can
why work on talking when you can make the other person do it for you
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>>8175062
Tried that, doesn't work
People will get very comfy with you easily, but that doesn't guarantees you getting a girl, I tried that with 5 girls and all of them treated me like a good friend and nothing more than that, this status didn't changed for 6 months straight so yes I'm sure
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hentai board?
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>>8175072
tomorrow
go gaming if u dont like it now
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>>8175072
>noooooo I want pictures noooo
>>>/b/
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>>8175076
kek'd
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>>8172623
box?
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>>8175079
its pony
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>>8173808
box?
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>>8175018
box?
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>>8174633
box?
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Panty inspection day
https://files.catbox.moe/292sqf.png
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hmm
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Don't bake next thread. End this misery.
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>>8175093
the lore expands
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>>8175094
we're shutting down at #600, just a little more
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>>8175102
b-bro your wife is gone...
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>>8175093
n
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>>8175109
i
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>>8175115
based. now make the woman white
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>>8175118
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>>8175115
poor pov guy, that's gotta hurt
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>>8175119
gigabased
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As an unbiased third party I think the contrast added by dark-skinned_male on white-skinned_female greatly enhances the visual appeal of an image.
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>>8175131
read that as unbased
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>>8175136
That's just your personal insecurities.
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>>8174346
>T5 is just untrainable
Why would it be untrainable? Everyone's already been frying CLIP models, so I'm sure destroying T5 will be easy.
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>>8175131
You're joking but the contrast unironically helps the model understand that there's two distinct subjects and helps stop the dick from melting. It's basically a handicap that tells the model "hey dumbass, you're making porn" and prevents a lot of low effort body horror
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keep it together anon just 24 more images and it's over...
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>>8175149
it also works if you reverse their colors
or green, red, blue skin, bodysuits, etc.
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>>8175149
>You're joking
I am not. I like black on white for the same reason I like black text on white paper. I'm no mentally ill BBC degen.
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>>8175154
box pls, I've been trying to get that hands buried in ass cheeks effect
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>>8175162
deep_skin
There's a Lora too.
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>>8175115
tags for the violently deranged hag expression?
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>>8175169
happy, open_mouth, expressiveh
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>8175159
>I'm no mentally ill BBC degen.
>
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>>8175154
Based! More with severed upper body, please.
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>>8175179
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>>8174679
Quite like this artstyle/lighting. Only the body proportions feel off.

PS Do Saya in that style please.
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>>8175176
>expressiveh
It's genning time, saars
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I feel like I have finally escaped /aco/ hell, but I'm not 100% happy with my style. All anime style loras I find are so chibi and give such wide faces. Can you guys recommend me some? Preferably ones that do good milfs
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>>8175201
>MY style
>recommend me one
Just be yourself.
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goodnight /hdg/ good luck out there
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>>8175176
that's not a happy expression, that's a 'I will destroy civilization with my cunt' expression
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>>8175207
>Gave up on split hair
>Gave up on heterochromia
>Posts autism score_9 slop
The /hdg/ effect
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>>8175201
arakure, try, herio, ichinomiya yuu, croriin, oohira sunset. There's plenty of styles to choose from anon.
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>>8175218
Is there a mega with these loras?
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>>8175201
try some innate styles as well
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>>8175201
Summer clover
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>>8173739
What is the style mix? I really like this it looks good.
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>>8175026
you need to lower the strength of that style lora it produce insane artefacts
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>>8174163
>lognorm(0,1), as in SD3 paper
Actually I think I should have tried to use SpeeD sampling https://github.com/kaiwang960112/SpeeD/ but whatever, it's already training, let's see how it goes (it goes really smoothly by the way)
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Any discord screenshots today?
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>>8175243
We're busy genning, chuddie.
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>>8175246
You're lying.
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Please kill me
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>>8175250
I don't really want to die I just want to stop reading here but I can't and it's hell it's literal hell
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>>8175243
Jordach has 'completely neutralized the smear' in cascade 1b. is cascade saved?? did he cook?? or is he gaslighting himself and coping? you be the judge
https://files.catbox.moe/u3rw17.png
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>>8175253
can someone please for the love of God redo his images in pony then do a side by side so he's forced to see how absolutely trash his is
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This thread needs more /ss/ posting to save it from discord troonshot spam.
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>>8175253
those fucking torsos
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>>8175255
kill yourself cathag pederast troon
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>>8175254
Bro it's 99% there, the remaining 1% is just your personal preference so you gotta train a lora to get there.
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>>8175257
That's not now a healthy normal person who did no wrong reacts.
Confess. How many terabytes of CSAM do you have stored?
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>projecting
like all troony groomers do. call me an egg next please
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>>8175253
The pictures in the catbox have the smear "neutralized" I assume?
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>>8175253
remember when he was preaching that cascade is allegedly amazing because it learns fast
even gave us the proto which in all honesty was not bad for a proto
and now it's been half a year and he has is this dogshit
even if the actual 3.6b is somehow good (it probably won't be) he lost all the momentum and is nothing but a laughing stock now. sad. it's the end of august and he STILL hasn't started baking it, fucking imbecile
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>>8175253
improved the eyes at least
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>>8175253
>>8175254
Have some non-cherrypicked last trash v-pony bake samples with eva02 tagger prompt
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>>8175268
>>>/b/
>>
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>>8175271
Looks like shit too, but with better eyes. Where did all the high frequency detail go in your vpony?
But just to make you laugh, the cascade gens you are comparing to aren't base res, they are 1312x2400.
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going into cryosleep. wake me up when we have naiv3 at home
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>>8175277
>Where did all the high frequency detail go in your vpony?
tl;dr this run had some ip noise issues and it was trained for too little for the details to settle in.
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>>8175280
Any chance you are prompting on shitty local smea dy? The way those beaches look in the background is just too reminiscent of my experiments with that crap.
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>>8175149
box? suckable nips
>>
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I actually mind the shitposting less now that highlights are posted because with half the thread filled with people posting bad images ironically it ups my chances significantly of landing on the highlights.
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>>8175289
You forgot one thing: highlights are shitposts too.
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>highlights
it's just anon's regular attempts to steer and centralise any and all conversation around himself.
retard behaviour, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>8175290
They aren't if my image gets included.
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>>8175289
Catbox requests and highlighterinos are troll gaslighting, anon.
>>8175282
opossumbox?
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>the whole train pc hanged for no reason
i'm gonna kill myself
>>8175284
I've used cfg++ euler a with cfg at 2.8, maybe cfg was just too low.
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>>8174163
I tried
>timesteps = torch.sigmoid(torch.normal(mean=-0.3, std=1, size=(b_size,), device=device))
with --noise_offset=0.02 --adaptive_noise_scale=0.001 --min_snr_gamma=10
>>>/vt/84064680

It seems to work. Maybe vpred is not necessary? Good old noise_offset can fix colors well enough?
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>>8175269
to his defense its better to not bake anything instead of baking something with bad setting
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>>8175296
>the whole train pc hanged for no reason
Sorry to hear that.
>cfg++ at 2.8, maybe cfg was just too low.
Hmm no I think this is a rather high value for cfg++. Probably around 7-9 in normal cfg terms.
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highlights \(hair\)
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>>
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>>8175201
x/y plot
use results to mix
done
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>>8175238
https://files.catbox.moe/5f9ymu.png
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>>8175296
>it was in 20 minutes away of completing the first epoch
>it even stopped supplying power to usb devices
Think it's a system RAM issue, fucking hell. Another 5+ hours wasted I guess.
>>8175300
I don't think cfg works exactly the same for vpred, anon.
>>8175297
Nice to see it's working for you as well. V-prediction solves another problem though.
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>>8175297
you are using pyramid noise right, that's what the adaptive scale is? just raw noise offset introduces problems that i haven't noticed with pyramid/multires noise
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>>8175239
It's not the style, is the hyper pussy Lora, if I lower it the puffy pussy is gone
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>>8175324
try to use (fat mon,cleft of venus:1.6) without lora instead
>>
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>>8175310
>old noname 3200mhz memory i threw in just to get 32gb works like a charm for 6+ years
>1y old highfreq 4200mhz (was set to 3200) samsung a0 b-die stick failed
>cleaned the contacts
>started working again
huh
>>
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>>8175327
gwennys tits are not that big
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>>8175326
>1.6
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>>8175326
I hope that would fix it, the hyper pussy anon on /d/ never reveal which lora he used
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>>8175296
>the whole train pc hanged for no reason
this was my problem with sdscripts, it would just lock up the PC due to poor vram management or something. never had issues on any other trainer, sdscripts insists on freezing and crashing whenever you close out or try to save_state
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>>8175332
but perhaps they should be
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>>8175333
Why 1.6 tho
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>>8175322
no. adaptive noise scale simply applies more or less offset to some images (if latent_mean is high, that means that image is very dark or very bright?)
https://github.com/kohya-ss/sd-scripts/blob/25f961bc779bc79aef440813e3e8e92244ac5739/library/custom_train_functions.py#L469

pyramid noise is a totally different
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>>8175341
that sounds good too honestly
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>>8175333
Yeah what? He can lower it if its too much but I figure its better to go overboard and tweak it down after
>>
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>>8175344
going above 1.3 in sdxl is pointless, if you're still having problems it's probably a prompt order or negatives issue
>>
>>
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>>8175347
I agree it's a bad habit and there's usually a better solution, but it's not pointless at all. It still makes a difference, just starts having serious side effects.
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>>8175350
>NAIVIT ANON
Finally, some good fucking food.
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>>8175351
>i know it's a bad practice but i'm still gonna recommend it
?
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>>8175337
This was apparently a hardware issue. Well, at least I don't have any excuse not to use this >>8175241
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A LOT of good posts this thread. Prepare to a lot of highlights, but you earned it guys.
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Maybe she's a mob boss in a midlife crisis (she's 26).
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>>8175359
What a great finishing touch for this thread! Thank you for posting.
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New Thread:

>>8175361
>>8175361
>>8175361
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>>8175353
nta
just saying it's not "pointless", it does work
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>>8175347
I usually avoid going above 1.4 because it just fuck up everything but its not pointless, as I said i prefer going higher then toning it down instead of too low
>>8175353
Cant be worse than the lora he is using that completely fries his gen
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>>8175365
works but introduces problems in the rest of the image is not a good solution

>>8175369
this is true but irrelevant
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>>8175370
How is that irrelevant? Irrelevant to what?
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Pls help an anon:

There was a model on civitai a few weeks ago that now is gone. It was called "[Niku Ringo (Kakugari Kyoudai)] Assorted Doujin Artstyle Blend PonyXL", the link should be

https://civitai.com/models/472751?modelVersionId=525901

but now it returns 404.

I can still generate images on civitai using the model by remixing existing images, however I don't know how long this will work in the generator.

Is there a way to download the model from the modelId and versionId even if it was removed? (this way I can run it locally)
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>>8175216
who said i gave up entirely on it
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>>8175457
Stop downloading zombocrombo garbage, you're better off training it yourself with zero experience
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does anyone have any info what model this is? seems way better than most ai generated stuff ive seen.
https://files.catbox.moe/1vcp8c.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/pni2km.jpg
>>
Where i can find guide rentrys? I remember them being in previous threads



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