Something Happened EditionPrevious Thread: >>8190785>LOCAL WEBUI SETUPhttps://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki>LOCAL FORGEUIForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forgeMaintained fork (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge>LOCAL COMFYUIhttps://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUIhttps://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/https://openart.ai/workflows/templates>LOCAL MODELShttps://civitai.com/models/282341?modelVersionId=826474https://civitai.com/models/288584https://civitai.com/models/257749>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESFeatures: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/FeaturesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070/controlnetxl-cnxl | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://huggingface.co/spaces/Sanster/iopaint-lama | https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscaler models: https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-Nomos8k-atd-jpgBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfList of useful A1111 extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgtemplate/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
based OP
1girling with tofu is fun
>>8194294alts:https://files.catbox.moe/3xls6y.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/g685rh.jpg
>>8194294Looks great
nothing ever happens general
>Mean is in the hospital so he cant set up cascade 3.6bhow are they such a master at dodging vendors every time?
is this local or nai i honestly cant tell, someone on discord sent it to me earlier
>>8194317Seems to me like patreon grifter behavior.
>>8194320abyss orange mix
>>8194320it's cascade
>>8194320mspaint
>4th tail 5.0 outperforms nai at nsfw>tofu outperforms nai at sfwit's so over for nai
>>8194320discordMix_1.3
>>8194320do you think it looks good? if so, it's nai. if not, it's local
>>8194330Is there a tech for 4th tail that doesn't make it look fried?
>>8194336the style, colors and lighting are nice, but anatomy and details suck, so pony gen with nai refiner?
>>8194338works on my machine
>>8194330>no image
>>8194320I like it. Why not just ask them what it was made in?
>>8194330Hang on you're supposed to complain about blur and smear you forgot to add that
Requesting more Akko buttjobs.
>>8194353That's a child, you sick fuck
>>8193902I take it back, it's nice. Pussy juice trail on the right is pretty kino.
>>8194353But you can make them yourself? Just prompt shit, anon.
>>8194354shut the fuck up, you sick child
>>8194356he can't, it's some dumbass who keeps posting requests on every single imagegen general on this website because he doesn't have a gpu or a nai sub
>>8194355catbox? so I can see your settings
>>8194365https://files.catbox.moe/arf311.pngAlso not in catbox: scheduler is sgm_uniform and upscale is with dpm++ sde 0.4 denoise 5 cfg.
>>8194372Many thanks
>>8194320It's local.
Does pony know what deep penetration is or do I need a concept lora
>>8194392What do you mean by deep penetration?
>>8194392it doesnt, base pony sex looks lackluster and stiff
>>8194345holy shit new 4th tail is kino
>>8194399looks like a couch pillow
>>8194399nai could never
>>8194294Is this 4th tail? Also the guy is LITERALLY me.
>>8194398Good morning, expressive H sirs
it's jordachover
>>8194394Like balls deep insertion
>>8194392don't prompt penis, just vaginalthe more size and emphasis on penis the more of it is visible in the gen
>>8194330yep, it's not bad desu, adult woman warning https://files.catbox.moe/2yj66l.png
>>8194409FALSE, he's just getting started. He just put together the architecture for Spectra-1, his new foundational model, and already began training on the 3060s. He's so good that work on the dataset took him less than a single day.
>>8194392Can you see the issue https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=deep_penetrationDespite the tag definition saying it's meant for balls deep, it's often tagged based on how deep the penis goes, not how much of it is left outside.
>>8194413man maybe I actually don't need to resub tomorrowgotta test the new models
>>8194413>healthyman>is in fact mentally ill
just came to this so at least i got something out of 4th tail/ss/ cum inflationhttps://files.catbox.moe/vedwml.png
>>8194421another nai user converted to local, we can't stop winning
someone check on kurumuz...
>>8194428If 4th tail guy expands his dataset to nai level, the conversion rate is going to skyrocket. For now it's pretty limited, but what it can do is nice.
>>8194428I need to actually check it firstkaleid cunny test is going to be performed(when im home)
>>8194429kurumuz was arrested for the attempted murder of treexir and is currently awaiting trial
>>8194323>>8194327>>8194329>>8194333>>8194336>>8194339you guys are too scared to give a real guess because either:>>it's nai, and then you admit it's better than local>>it's a local model, and you as a nai user is afraid of local catching upBECAUSE IT IS LOCAL, I MADE IT, I MADE IT ALL UP, IT WAS ALL TOMFOOLERY! PFFT HA HA HA, *snort* HAHAHAHAA *snort* hahaha!>>8194347Based picture enjoyer for enjoying an image as it is, where origin of it is just an afterthought. If you must know, it is the new 4thtail with a certain mix of innate artists. I can give catbox if you'd like! :)>>8194391What part of the anatomy made you think it was local?
My cute wife..Also taking requests specific to my wife for funI'll get to it eventually if there is any
>>8194438everything about that pic screamed localyou can do local parodies on nai though
>>8194439Your wife and not your wife (but also a girl) in 69 position in landscape.
>>8194438if you could post the box id appreciate
>>8194438As the 'based picture enjoyer', I would like to request a catbox. I like the dark color tones, as well as the skin details. I think it looks good and would enjoy learning from the settings regardless of which model it is.
>>8194438the reason people were giving meme guesses was because it looks like shit
>>8194435it can't be...
>>8194433checked Chloe with some artists and mixes typically used by NAI kurofasgs and it was very mehif you find something then post some boxes
>>8194446NNOOOOO ITS AMAZING ITS NAInaikeks ohnonono
>>8194450we've known for a while that nai can produce dogshit images if you tryafter all, we had shoebill anon's gens
>>8194449Post catbox please? I am indeed one of the NAI Kurofags, phoneposting rn
Well it can more or less do what I want but the artist tag mix that I used on arti 2.0 is kind of dogshit here since aperently tofu doesn't have that strong bias towards certain artist tags that arti 2.0 has (which is something good I guess)
comfychads wake up, new node just dropped.
Reminder that Astralite was asked if he implemented tag dropout and he had no idea what it was
>>8194445>>8194444Here you go!:https://files.catbox.moe/18iq5e.pngModel is this:https://civitai.com/models/282341/4th-tail-animehentai>>8194441Ok then? Which parts screams local then? ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)>>8194446I'm open for any constructive criticism you may have.Also pic related, I used it in controlnet to generate the laughing Darkness earlier. Local has great meme potential.
>>8194453>Post catbox please?what do you mean? at least i have nothing to show yet, was just throwing artists on 1kuro standing
>>8194460reminder that everyone who knew what is was still failed to produce even a half-decent model. while shitbakers talked, astralite walked. and that's why pony won
>>8194445>>8194446Oop, forgot to mention for first darkness image I also used multidiff upscale combined with vectorscope to get darker colors and more detail during upscale.
>>8194460Reminder that none of the local bakers figured vpred and are stuck with noise offset
>>8194456kys faggot
nai just can't stop winning
Are u ok bwo? have you taken your meds yet?
>>8194470>astralite walkedDamn it's more than half a year now.
>>8194472yeah i cant get it working at all, part of why i hate a1111/forge so much, half the settings dont properly save
>>8194473EasyFluff figured out vpred like ten months ago
>>8194486>1.5
>>8194438>What part of the anatomy made you think it was local?Just the general feeling of the image. I didn't really look at the anatomy in detail.
>>8194469thats what i wanted to look at kinda
>>8194439Your wife playing vidya while you play with her.
>>8194439aged up
>>8194439aged down
>>8194503Just look up his older posts in the archive. He was literally a hag poster half a year ago...
>>8194413Another one. Give it a try anons. https://files.catbox.moe/fq63qg.png
Did anyone catch this on the 4thtail/tofu pages? Help a brother out with dataset contributions kek Future plans:Well, a new dataset 2.5 times bigger with better balancing and classification is ready, but any mistake of flaw will cost A LOT. Fixes for current version may be quite soon, but before next big training I'm going to collect more feedback and test some new thing. If you have advices, would like to share your experience, tools or methods for training - you are very welcome. I'm thinking about adding of some furries in dataset. It may be beneficial for anatomy, poses, concepts, but not that easy because of different tagging system and... wide aesthetic range. If you have ideas how to deal with it, suggestions for good looking/interesting furry artists or can share your datasets - please PM.
do you guys think we'll get a local model better than pony v6 before the end of the year?
How do you guys plan to celebrate NAI's next model not having artist tags?
>>8194519lollmao
>>8194515>I'm thinking about adding of some furries in dataset.even fraction of furshit in dataset will steer model into fallout 3 filter cartoon porn /d/ gens, please for the love of god don't ruin it
>>8194515He can just download danbooru, it's not hard, and it clearly works, looking at NAI.
>>8191308Don't forget to share the loras Anon
>>8194519list of every model i can think of being '''worked on'''>nai 4>pony>cascade>wdv>4th tail/tofu>kohaku>arti>animagine>anima>furry flux finetune>that one shitty chinese hunyuan finetunedo you really think there are any local winners in this batch?
>>8194534it's over
>>8194524>fallout 3 filter cartoonsar, the sepia filter is in new vegas, f3 had the green filter
>>8194534I'll root for the chinese
>>8194534I think arti will come out on top, euge has been playing the long game.
JORDACH FOR THE WIN LET'S GOOO
>>8194542Jordach is the only one training an ENTIRE FOUNDATIONAL MODEL, think about how far ahead he is of everyone else. Really he just cannot stop winning
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3kWfoMsTpvHRVDCGhOv18gdaily reminder that the hope of local is a failed minecraft modder
jordach is the only baker with the right vision. we need smaller models that don't get in the way of your creative process
>>8194545https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5rHFPNG1yQWhat the hell is this?
>>8194545a lot of things make more sense when you remember jordach is in his mid 20s
>>8194456>the artist tag mix that I used on arti 2.0 is kind of dogshit heresame, struggling with artists on tofu atm
>wife lora barely works on 4th tail>style mixes don't work at allguess having Frieren is nice, kinda?
>>8194559nai lost
everyday localkeks just sink lower and lower...GRIM!
>>8194571why is it so blurry?
>>8194499here couple ones, for some reason 1girling looks particularly bad, sex scenes seems to be slightly betteridk if you have script on the phone so will write artists used>kawakami rokkakuhttps://litter.catbox.moe/1bobee.png>(by as109:0.4), (by ratatatat74:0.4), (by wlop:0.4)https://litter.catbox.moe/y76ue2.png>by sweetonedollar, by porforever, by s16xuehttps://litter.catbox.moe/3rokov.png>by fkeyhttps://litter.catbox.moe/lov3l1.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/vtigte.png>by yamamoto souichirouhttps://litter.catbox.moe/21093t.png>by yd \(orange maru\)https://litter.catbox.moe/126jl1.png>by mochironghttps://litter.catbox.moe/mg1g9y.pngi'm going sleep early today, so will try to make something actual tomorrow
>>8194577yd isn't half bad style wise. can you unfuck the anatomy and hands without killing the style?
>epoch 65/65 steps: 98%|| 896/910 [1:40:39<01:34, 6.74s/it, Average key norm=0, Keys Scaled=tensor(0, device='cuda:0'), avr_loss=0.0548]please... i want this one to come out properly...
>>8194588Nice pose
https://i.4cdn.org/b/1725993589012369.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/b/1725993928395133.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/b/1725994441153627.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/b/1725994930213836.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/b/1725995097183700.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/b/1725995321751460.jpghttps://i.4cdn.org/b/1725995828531949.jpg
>>8194511woah, five fingers in. can pony do pussy and anal fingering at the same time without any lora? https://files.catbox.moe/asusrg.png
>>8194582idk, will try my schizo prompts for lanky anatomy tomorrowediting it and img2img would work but it isn't worth the effort taking into account how it looksand again, in poses that aren't frontal standing
>>8194586is that nai or local? really hate the style, but the detail is amazing
where are the highlights :(
>>8194600that really doesn't look like a horn if that's what you were going for
>>8194598It has metadata, bro. Although you won't be able to repeat it without his vibe transfer images and settings.
>>8194596what do you mean? you're using pony
How do I prevent accordion waist when using multiple LoRAs?
>>8194584i ate the hands, nothing personnel...
highlighterinosisters, have we lost?
>>8194603Sorry. Almost 3 hours to the party, tho it's good for a thread to have severl OPs all around the clock. Can still try it though.
>>8194621what?
i don't feel motivated to gen if there's no highlighterinos...
>>8194626kill yourself please
>>8194626Put it together right now or else I have no idea what to gen
>>8194621not the loras' fault usually
When is big too big?
>>8194627Typically when I use multiple LoRAs the waists become distended like someone shoved a bunch of eggs or some shit in them and it ends up looking like an accordion
>>8194635One size over that is too big
>>8194635never
>>8194635The real question is when does big become /d/
>>8194403Niceness, lovely Reimu
>>8194636uh example?Maybe you're using too many loras on 1.00 strength, try toning it down a bitHere's a tape fixhttps://mega.nz/folder/wDs2WCRB#F_LT9gLaGAWos7A4ZPIclw/folder/BeVH3TDAand use the waist one
>>8194577>all light skinI kinda like Soichirou and yd though. Thanks anon
>>8194644Nice question>picrelthis is perfect size for me>>8194642see you in /d/ I guess>>8194638>>8194638Could you illustrate what would that be?
>>8194626stop breathing faggot
>>8194626keep breathing straight man
>>8194654Too based for this thread
Someone got a tan
>>8194659crossover between some genshin style game and goblin burrow
BremBrem
4th tail is alright, but anima still mogs
>>8194662Ooooo shes sexy in a new way
>>8194413my succubus wife cant be this cute
>>8194503>>8194505ok
>>8194664Does that arm positioning make any sense in this position...
I see what's happening. It's poorfag NAI users who can't afford high-end GPUs to gen local/skill issues and can't into promoting that shill the platform so much.
>>8194671Sometimes
I see what's happening. It's jeetards and SEAtards who use 'local' through civitai generator that cry about not being able to afford a sub so much
>>8194671It's doable. Might not even be that uncomfortable when done on sand. As for why she'd do it though...
>>8194654great galleryare you still taking requests?
>>8194679Klara is the hardest character to generate
>>8194673What renowned mangaka is this style from???
>>8194689Fei (MAIDOLL)
>>8194527there is so much trash on that site it's unrealthe only way to get a good model is to manually prune everything, prune it again, then prune it again, with manual tag corrections for every imageanything less will just be similar to what we've had
>>8194683A lot of bait got left untouched in the last few threads. regulars wising up and a steadily declining supply of newfags are catastrophic for the bait industry
>>8194697>>8194698beautiful adult hentai. more pls
>>8194697>>8194698>>8194703>>8194707box onegai?
>>8194707>>8194703Catbox? nice hentai, sexy
:DDDD
>>8194710>>8194711https://civitai.com/images/28759114https://civitai.com/images/28751452
:3
>>8194707this is nice unironically
(1/2)The core problem all the current local models share is that the bakers don't understand the law of large numbers. Except HLL and ArtiWaifu with Euge autistically avoiding balancing the dataset with nothing but the artists and waifus. The model will inevietably only learn the data which is the most common across the dataset and will resist with all its might learning outliers.For example, if you intentionally prune most of mikus from the dataset except everything made by abmayo, SDXL will not learn "hatsune miku" but it will learn miku as "by abmayo", in the exact abmayo's style and you won't be able to prompt admayo's style without miku as the main subject on the picture. Or, if every single caption has "1girl" in it, the model will never learn what exactly that means.Well, that was an easy example. Another example would be "anatomy". If 95% of your dataset consists of such https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8133759 images, your model will never learn what sex is even if you have like 20M images.Ponyfag balanced the dataset to match roughly 1:1:1 between nsfw, sensitive and safe images, roughly 1:1:1:1 between pony, furry, cartoons and anime. This IS the only reason pony is capable of either. Furthermore, you can, in fact, utilize this to make the model better. Ponyv6 is a huge win for astralite in particular because most of the pony images look like crap. He trained on all of the trash images, but due to the fact that ponies overall contributed less to the dataset, he managed to shift average pony gen quality to average furry/cartoon/anime quality because average furry, cartoon and anime contribute to 75% of the dataset. He filtered the utter trash from respective categories so that helped too.NAI 100% figured this out as well but I'm not entirely sure how they implemented that but I think I know how to do that better. Arti and HLL-anon sorta figured this out and applied for artists via repeats but that's not really a solution.
>>8194654Wow
>>8194697beautiful, reminiscent of master mangaka of yore
>>8194718Agreed, very sexy hentai.
someone should go somewhere ^_^
What's the closest you ever got to an actual artists style? Feel like artists are overly concerned with their styles being stolen, when it's actually quite hard to gen something that looks more than just heavily inspired.
>>8194726bzzzzzz! just bee yourself
>>8194662That's no tan no more.
>>8194719(2/2)I suspect one of the reasons why NAI has such good understanding is because of that they just filtered unnecessary data. It's likely that they did it the stupid way, but I think there's a much, much better way to do that, which is via clusterization.Basically, we use CLIP to obtain the embeddings from their dataset. What are those embeddings? It's literally a bunch of numbers used to represent the image. What are those numbers? How to interpret them? It doesn't matter and we don't need to do that. If you know some vector math, you should know that we can project multi-dimension vectors onto the 2d plane. Once we have a shitton of images to draw embeddings from, we can build a visual semantic representation of all the dataset we are working with. Just look at the picture.You can see a lot of points around double penetration, but not so much around thigh sex. You also see that thigh sex is a lot more varied. What you want to do with it? Don't you notice a bias there? What you want to do is to sample images from each cluster evenly, thus you can allow the model to learn some specific concepts or things even if you use really small number of images for a dataset, because the data is *DIVERSE*. All of the data points is represented equally.Now, a revelation. Since this is a 2d picture, the clusterization is quite limited. What you actually want to to is to run it on the whole embeddings, not just 2d projections, this way you can gain a lot of accuracy.This is what ponyfaggot is doing with V7, this is what he experimented with V6 and this is why V7 will fuck and rape all NAI3 holes at style knowledge.Another reason NAI is good at artists would be that they tried to compress the artist tokens by dropping out some of CLIP embedding numbers, but that's another story.This is why tofu, animagine, kohaku, arti, sanae, cascade, wdv, anima, or whatever will never be good unless they balance their datasets somehow.P.S. sucks to be you if you saw a dick there
>>8194718It's not bad, just on the wrong board
>>8194703More of her?
>>8194719>>8194734could you copy this into a random discord chat and then post a screenshot of it here? would make it easier to read
>>8194734summarize and translate to ebonics
>>8194741post it on wdv discord
>>8194734>this is why V7 will fuck and rape all NAI3 holes at style knowledgeThis.
>>8194719>>8194734catbox?
>>8194679I'll give y'all a debate;are g-forces/acceleration stuff /hdg/, as long as it contains nsfw? Or would it be considered /e/ if no sex involved? Or is it enough /d/ to be /d/ material?
>>8194731Are you some kind of tan expert?
>>8194752g force obviously belongs on /g/ idiot
>>8194752it's everything at once thus legal to be here. also more
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=9467111&tags=all_fours+1girl+1boy+grabbing_another%27s_breast+how do i best prompt for a pose like this where the guy is basically clinging to the girl in a doggystyle position?
>>8194755Author here. Gave me a good chuckle.>>8194758Unfortunately going away for a bit now, might be back tomorrow!
>>8194353based taste>>8194354out of TEN
>>8194761as you can see there is no tag for itthough if you add grabbing another's breast it might not have many other options for the guy's pose
From what I have produced with Tofu, it isn't too bad, but needs refinement. Controlnet is utterly useless, and none of my tests worked.
>>8194767pony just gives the dude slenderman arms if i try that
>>8194774it reminds me of her
>>8194776b-chama...
>>8194734I only saw a dick after you pointed that outfascinating stuff tho, someone should enlighten all the bakers. Surely they don't autistically browse this general?
>>8194778he didn't say a single thing that isn't already known by everybody (except for astralite ironically)
>>8194779must be a huge gap between knowing and being able to put it into practice then
>>8194720Aster Crowley + who?
>>8194761>>8194773you need to use control net, otherwise you won't get it
>>8194786how about you tell him to bake a lora next, bro. I'm sure nai can do it out of the box lol
>>8194784asura obviously
>>8194734show this to jordach
>>8194791he already knows lol
>>8194791jordach is not on a high enough level for this to concern him.
>>8194686do you think you can do one of her getting anal like this?https://litter.catbox.moe/gw2m09.png
>>8194792clearly he doesn't otherwise he wouldn't be training on 4m furry and 2m anime pics
>>8194734I want to call you a schizo but it actually makes sense
>>8194791jordach is on a level beyond such inane pseud drivel
>>8194784(, afrobull, asura \(asurauser\),)genned with tofu
>>8194797Kek did you draw this?
>>8194797absolute soul
>>8194797ai could never...
--- BREAKING NEWS ---Jordach just gave birth.
What makes 4th tail any better than autism
>>8194797Cute art!
>>8194797what lora did you use?? is this flux??
>>8194797your pencil drawing just mogged everything ive genned i dont know how to feel about this
>>8194797just draw it yourself bro, like what, you can even use that as a base and make the slop machine color it
>anons started tasting pure and unfiltered vaeless pictures
>>8194797AIbros :(
>anon posts drawing>HOLY SHIT SOUL>"maybe you could just learn to draw?">NAH BRO I GOT AIwhat the hell?
>>8194802yeah>>8194812ty>>8194815drawing is tedious and my motivation is unpredictable :(
>>8194797where's the metadata?
>>8194818yeah sure just spend 10 years learning to draw instead of getting nice stuff right now
>>8194819>drawing is tedious and my motivation is unpredictable :(You are half way there to make controlnet recognize it and finish it for you, what the fuck is wrong with you
>>8194797Local could never... (its NAI)
this is 4th tail
>>8194822>10 yearsif you put at least an hour of work a day for a year you could get to that level lmaoitd have to be real study though not just for le fun
>>8194823my gpu is too weak to gen ai picturesthe most I can do in these threads is make requests and help people inpaint by drawing over their gens
are tofu and 4th tail the same thing?
>>8194577Does it recognize Gabriel Tenma White?
looking at my temps, comfy seems so well optimized compared to auto/forgetoo bad the interface is so annoying to use
>>8194828Are you the same anon who randomly fixes someone else gens?
I guess 4th tail is the hotness? Or are there any other must try models for local right now? Is reforge still the way to go or did the forge guy unfuck his shit?
>>8194829No, Tofu is better than nai AND pony while 4th is just pony with shitty styles trained on top.
>>8194797Anon, you should draw more. Really. You have one thing most of people don't. Imagination.
>>8194832nah, I have only done that once, but I might start doing it more oftenI did it yesterday(?) for the guy who was genning the spiral hair girl
>>8194294Previous Thread Highlights1/2
>>8194835no need to be so tough on 4th tail, it's still "a full NAI3 experience? (Actually even better)"
I cannot tell *why*, but tofu adds these spots all over. Like some sort of leopard skin over the output.
2/2
>>8194843i puked
>>8194835ponynaibros?
>>8194843that face is fucked amigo
>>8194847who?
>>8194847I thought I'm the only one using that
>>8194839What do you even call those boob drapes the bunny girls are wearing?
Damn, local style mixing is getting pretty spicy. I'm team Minthy now, unironically. Going to sleep pretty happy about the state of local for the first time.
>>8194848Where?
>8194844is that a fucking owl, are you fucking seriousdamn, i would be so ashamed if one of mine ever appears amongs those """highlights"""very very unlucky
>>8194851breast curtains?
>>8194825They were going to give you a footjob, but they're disappointed because it's fempov?
>>8194854I'm happy though. At least someone liked the outputs I made.
>>8194840Both still mogged by Cascade 1b.
>>8194852Good night, cunnychad
Making it on the highlights shouldn't make me as happy as it does, I feel like a fucking idiot.
Does anyone have the pony model with the name "0003 - Pony"? The model card image on Civit has a really beautiful and ethereal style that I want, but it's apparently removed.
>>8194852tomorrow drop what artists have you used, looks really nice
>>8194818If people here didn't like art, why would they be here to begin with?>>8194854Sounds like you got owlned.
>>8194862I just treat it like a regular (you). Should be less even, he's giving out dozens at once. But most anons don't respond to gens anymore unless they're controversial somehow.
4th tail barely works with LoRAs, garbage checkpoint
>>8194869just retrain every pony lora, bro
>NOOOO IT DOESNT WORK WITH MY SHITTY UNDERBAKED PONYSLOP GARBAGE???good sign, shows he actually trained it. positive omens all around
>>8194862>I feel like a fucking idiotyou should
>>8194862>I feel like a fucking idiotyou shouldnt
Post hags (preferably blacked)
>>8194862>I feel like a fucking idiotyou shouldntnt
I can't stop genning thick bitches sitting on cake
4th tail looks like THAT?This how it interprets a prompt for "Pale skinned male" btw
>>8194879literally me
>>8194879I mean, it's exactly that
>>8194881I asked for a pale skinned dude not a wax figurine from the GAP
>>8194882your problem thirdy, my skin looks exactly like that
>>8194879finally.. I feel represented
>>8194797BasedNot quite the exact angle but, I'll probably roll some moresome bonuses, didnt inpaint all of thesehttps://catbox.moe/c/yg28zy
>>8194888thanks!
>>8194830somewhathttps://litter.catbox.moe/bpzvel.png
>>8194763Nice! Do more, please.
>>8194871>good signYeah just what I wanted a model that not only looks shittier than pony slop w/LoRAs but one that would require every current LoRA maker to drop pony just to have a fraction of the style approximations >B-but the heckin potential and better ground floorI do not give a single shit until it actually has support.The first 4 artists I tried using its native artist pool look like dog ass out of the box compared to "underbaked ponyslop garbage"
>>8194899lol i agree after testing it's far better for aco sloppa than anime.
>>8194855That's it. Thanks, anon.
>>8194899you don't have the right to complain if you can't bake the loras by yourself
>>8194895Thanks anon
>>8194903For me AI slop is about convenience, if your model isn't convenient to use I do not give a shit about it. And part of convenience is having an actual library of shit to pull from.
>>8194294Disgusting.
>>8194908and why should anybody care about what an aphantasiac coomer thinks?
>>8194903Even comparing 0 loras to 0 loras the model's understanding of what Mimonel, Aster Crowley, Cutesexyrobutts, etc. styles should look like is way worse than Pony's >inb4 more excuses about artists x, y and z not counting buy an ad
>>8194863Found it on a couple other AI gen sites but downloads over there are disabled for some reason. Still looking for it.
Bad news everyone: Tree-san has passed away at the hospital. His contracts were nullified and his subordinates have been arrested for possessing fursuits worth 40000$ in stolen funds.
>>8194917you're laughing. jordachs imaginary friend is fighting for his life and you're laughing
>>8194917goodnight, sweet monarch. i swear we shall make kurumuz pay for taking xer from us so soon
>>8194917NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>8194859pretty nice
Why use local when NAI exists?
>>8194869Styles yeah, but characters seem to work fine for the most part. Just her face is off, it almost feels like mature female, naughty face and similar tags carry style bias. Also hurts Kagami Hirotaka pretty badly.>>8194911You can add nyamota, vahn yourdoom, melon22, blade galaxist...weird, cause some of these are at the top of their artist list and I assume it's sorted by image count. I am comparing it with Reweik though, not base Pony.>>8194876here
Are you ready guys? :)https://x.com/novelaiofficial/status/1819073216674938998
>>8194929HAPPENING
>>8194929this post has been deleted
>>8194929naiv4 LETS GOOOOO
I was away and don't want to read the thread. Is this tail model good enough to download and use over Autismmix?
>>8194934of course, it's even worth cancelling your NAI subscription for!
>>8194929>they are keeping artist tagswhew
expression tagging on boorus is just so incredibly fucking lacking, do all the mods there have aspergers and can't tell subtle facial changes apart?
>>8194934>Good enough to downloadMaybe>Use over autismmixprobably not unless you want to rebake all of the loras you use from scratch
>>8194929holy shit i managed to save the images before astralite infiltrated the network and took it down... my god did kurumuz cook holy shit not even jordach can compete with this... i think we need to assemble the local avengers if we want to stand a chance
>>8194928based
>>8194929Can someone explain how NAI gets new users? Their twitter account has barely any activity/the posts get little in the way of views. Are they just advertising heavily in Japan? Seems like that's where most of their userbase is now iirc.
>>8194942They just advertise here in 4chan.
>>8194942pony is the best advertisement for NAI they could ask for
4th tail no loras. I like it, this is pretty neato
>>8194950the backgrounds are pretty shit
>>8194937True, wish there was something like IP adapter for anime facial expressions.
I miss IP adapter anon
>>8194950did you use forge couple? and yes, it's pretty good. i'll keep my more than 100gb lora folder tho, just in case. https://files.catbox.moe/8zk2nr.png
>>8194950It's ok. I think the built in artist replication is kinda shitty though even though I was eventually able to find one that I liked
>>8194950What are you on about? It's fried. It looks like shit.
2w2km
>spend hours recreating this outfit in koikatsu in order to prevent style burn in>style still burns ini see
> tfw no hag to molest
>>8194844>two of mine made it in this timenice
>>8194983look how they massacred my girl
>>8194989It's summer. She got a tan. It's fine.
>dont know what to gen>not creative enough to make an oc>the loras are all deep fried to begin withwhat now?
>>8194999Dive into amazing world of inpainting. Have no creativity too. But sometimes you want to gen something model does badly, right? Inpaint it. And then you want to inpaint and polish that inpainted image. And then you inpainted same image for 6 hours straight. It's pretty fun, honestly.
>>8194896
If I git pull reforge into an empty folder and run it from there it's not going to affect my original forge in any way right? Is it safe to do?
>>8195008anon im at the point of genning blank prompts just to see if inspiration strikes and i am severely disappointed in where this has taken me.
>>8194999can just use wildcards and gen some totally random shit
>>8195015i havent even touched wildcards but dont i need to entirely change how prompts are written to do this?
>>8194999get better loras
>>8194999get nai
>>8195013So long as the folders are separate, it's fine. The only issue I see is if the version you downloaded doesn't have a dependency that is at odds with the other.
>>8195019it depends on what you're trying to do but usually not reallywhen I feel like wildcarding I just use my usual prompt/negs that include innate artist and style tags and then add wildcardslast time I just wrote a prompt that specified breast size, hair type, emphasis on 2girls and then randomized the angle/view with wildcards and then added around 12 instances of the wildcard that has like 6k danbooru tags after a break line, got some fun stuff out of itand you can always make your own wildcards
>Hurry up and get hard already!>...I am hard>What do?
>>8195036Cry and run away
>>8194999remake your old gens or do blacked gens and never post them anywhere
>>8195009Nice! I like it!
>>8195036use your whole fist as a dick
>>8195036fist her until she's foaming at the mouth
>>8195037>She notices you crying>>8195041>>8195042>She notices you making a fist in frustration
>>8195046Okay, now I marry her. That's too cute.
>>8195046SHOW HER NO MERCY WITH YOUR IRON FIST
I hate ding dong man
QRD on tofu?
ded
It pretty much went unnoticed, but the ebara v3 does an ok job too.
>>8195050I like it a lot. I didn't try any loras. Or controlnets yet. But as base model is it ultra solid.
>>8195050To elaborate a bit more. Prompting in autism and pony feels like wrestling a retard in mud pit. Tofu feels like smooth sailing.
>>8195052I felt it gives pretty fried results, it is overbaked or merged with some things
>>8195055it's merged with 4th tail so of course it's fried
>>8195050Solid for /e/, we are maybe finally free from pony hell
>>8195047>She said yes!>>8195048>After vigorously fisting her, she wants to be with you for the rest of her life!
>>8195057>>>/e/
>>8195050i like it in a particular spicy dish called mapo tofu. while its not for everyone, it can be quite nice.
>>8195063kotomine pls go
>>8194844got one in, nice
>>8195082I don't think that degree of curvature is healthy
>>8194902Anon learned Critical Lore today.
>>8194734>V7 will fuck and rape all NAI3 holes at style knowledgeDepends how this retard fuck his model with his superartist shenanigan and having to prompt anime_style_48 to get something else
sneed
>>8195116bro his hand is merging into her arm
latest 4th tail or tofu?
>>8195124They are both latest. 4th seems fried to me. Tofu is better than autism for me.
>>81951244th tail is SOTA for nsfw and tofu is SOTA for 1girling
Should I buy Pony or NAI?
>>8195135no
>>8195130>>8195133testing 4th and man it's fried now.have to test tofu, but i guess all loras for pony won't have any effect there
>>8195136i fear not the man who has genned 10000 prompts but the man who has genned 1 prompt 10000 times
>>8195120i dont even care anymore
>>8195139>but the man who has genned 1 prompt 10000 timesDo you think Melfina anon is in a better place now? I do.
>>8195055>>8195056To this day I still have no clue what you guys mean by "fried".
>>8195159it looks like it has chromatic aberration or is melting
>>8195159It comes from the saying "deep fried meme" which is a meme picture that has been passed through so many layers of compression that it looks like an eyesore.https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/deep-fried-memesCompare the images in that article to this picture: >>8194950This is a fried gen.
>>8195138well i kept testing, at least if extracting a lyco and then using it on another models seems to work better than the model itselfwondering why he doesn't train a big lora, i guess it learns less than finetuning a checkpoint?
>>8195154I like to think he finally got the perfect Melfina gen and ascended to a higher plane of existence. Now he looks down on us and blesses the waifufags, the sloppers, and the nogens alike.>>8195159Hard to give a scientific definition, but it generally refers to a model or LORA that's heavily overfit or overtrained. It ends up with an image output that's difficult to prompt, owing inflexibility or weights that have been thrown out of wack. It also tends to result in artifacted images, hence fried. It's very much a "You know it when you see it" issue. Speaking from personal experience, there was a style LORA I once trained badly and it ended up frying. It captured the style decently but was so inflexible that you couldn't really combine it with other LORAs.
my favorite gens
>>8195164Its really hard to do a multi-concept lora - not impossible - but much harder. The different concepts end up fighting each other. Finetuning works best if you have a bunch of different things, ie, thousands of artist tags. Especially if the datasets are unbalanced.
>>8195167this is what your grandfather saw when he wanted to wack off.
>>8195167no no norm feels
>>8195159It usually is referring to artifacts and oversaturated colors, or a really inflexible model that has just a few images "burned it". Some people miss the forest for the trees though, cause they don't compare the output to the artist.
>>8195175damn, this looks pretty nice. maybe you'll be the one who delivers us from pony hell...
>>8195175About time that dumb robot put it in the right hole!
>>8195177doubtful - I've been playing whack-a-mole with artists for a bit now. I run a finetune and either the model learns nothing, or it swaps around which artists it knows (learns a new one, forgets an old one -- or fries it.) I think some names are too similar and it mixes them up during training (ie I have real problems with akira toriyam, akihiko yoshida, and akihito tsukushi). I recent did a run with pivotal tuning to bundle the text as one token, and it seemed to help, but i'm still testing it.
>>8195179i'm rooting for you, anon
>>8195164Ok I take it back, it seems to only applies the "style", it doesn't seem to apply the text encoder parts, or it is not extracted somehow as a lyco. Not sure if extracted as a lora would work, gonna try
>>8195184yeah, regarding text encoders, there's something really wrong with either how lyco applies or extracts
covering face tag can burn in hell. You fix hand, face gets broken. You fix face, hand gets broken. Fuck my life I hate this shit so much.
>>8195198Just inpaint bwo
>>8195190okay tried lora and no warnings but it has even less of an effect.I think it depends heavily on the artist, like some artists work fine but some have very, very weak effect, you have to use like (by artist:1.5) to see an effect if using a lyco/lora extraction, even at 384 dim which is huge.Not sure what's going on with this revision for extracts.For example, "by asanagi" has an "effect" at 1.0 strength, but I had 0 effect trying "by aki99"
>>8195198Its cursed anon.Prompting an eye color or expression helps (since covering face has a few different meanings in the tags and forcing what you want to see helps), but its still a PITA.
lmao
Who could this be?
>>8195152help me anon! Im melting!
i like reweik 1.3 but it takes faceless male a little too literally
Is there any effective difference between batch 4 and batch 1 gradient accumulation 4 (or batch 2 and grad 2) ?
Does anyone know what makes A1111 have an aneurysm when doing high res, and how to fix it?
>>8194770Do you find it better than 4th tail
>>8195009Catbox please
>>8195234catbox???
>>8195243With normal prompts I get deformed abominations at times. Sex in particular can cause chaos spawns to manifest. And as some anons mentioned, it is rather "fried", going for deep oranges or adding odd noise. Your mileage may vary wildly.
hello, /hdg/, how do we feel about those free specialized anime ai art websites? i'm expecting to get shat on for even suggesting using them, but i don't really care for maximum customization, versatility, quality, or whatever, i understand they all have limitations in one way or anotheri just wanna play with ai art for a bit, so what's the least shit one?
>>8195251png ended up over 4MB.https://files.catbox.moe/9jzciq.png
>>8195271I don't think this counts as anime.
>>8194864by wlop, by yamamoto souichirou, by rustle, by fiz-rot, by fkey, by sincos, by abmayo,
>>8195235Now that's a butt plug
>>8195265novelai
Does anyone know what causes this to happen in ComfyUI? I don't see any warnings or errors on the console.https://files.catbox.moe/eewvc8.png
>>8195281novelai isn't free tho, is it? i'm be willing to sacrifice some quality for accessibility
>>8195274What is it then. Artist is roborobocap
Honestly, just as a base model 4th tail is already incredibly close to NAIv3 in terms of inherent knowledge, flexibility and quality. Add to that the fact that it's free, runs locally (and can thus be used in any way conceivable) and can use Loras, meaning it can learn anything you want, and I would say that I prefer 4th tail over NAIv3 in basically every scenario
>>8195294>no gen
man if only sdxl didn't drop the ball with the vae channels
Has anyone made a Tenkuu Shinpan mask Lora for xl/pony by change? There's one for 1.5 but it distorts anything I generate with it, too mixed up with real cosplay instead of anime I think. https://civitai.com/models/20861?modelVersionId=25861
>>8195159>>>/aco/8487812You can always just set the CFG lower to compensate. Only at some point it will stop following your prompts altogether and just do what it wants. Which is why it's better when the base model can handle a wider range, and not require it to be low already.
>>8195298if sdxl used a 16ch vae it would be a fucking pain in the ass both for inference and for finetunes having an increase of vram requirements of around 4 to 6gb because its a shit slow ass architecture so poorly designed its not even funny now
>>8195228In output, there shouldn't be. Gradient accumulation is slower though, while actual batch size greatly increases VRAM requirement. Which doesn't make it any slower as long as you have spare VRAM, and then it tanks to impossibly low speeds.
>>8195282>no metadata foundMost common one is you are using Clip Skip -1 with SDXL.
>>8195276thanks
if you're having trouble with 4th tail 0.5, dampen tags to ~0.6.not every tag obviously, but artists or any tag that has an overwhelming effect like covered nipples.the strong tag association is a pro and con. pro insofar as it strongly surfaces some feature, con in that you need to carefully manage tag strengths. it's got a fried look by default 1.0 strength but at CFG5/EulerA/25 step you can easily produce pretty good looking stuff after dumping a handful of artists in. Not too many of course, some artists are really awful around the eyes and hands.Still, massive win for local, I'm gonna buy and send some BTC to these guys.
>>8195311For any style that worked innately on pony, I find it's better to go back to Reweik than try to wrangle 4th. Even most loras are more accurate, as long as you're not stacking a bunch of them which causes problems.
>>8195321inevitable result of full finetune, you encroach on "new foundational model" territory, which brings incompatibility at the cost of new capabilities.I weaned off of 1.5 kicking and screaming, I get it. but this project is moving in a positive direction, enough so that I'd consider obsoleting my entire lora library for it.
>>8195322If the project is to continue moving, then any new loras baked on it will become obsolete in the next version. So at least switching to it is not a major investment the way Pony was. Or rather, investing more into it doesn't make sense, just use it as-is.
When making a character lora with a fairly small reference library of about 50 images, what are the preferred settings to make it?
>>8194999I've been genning every character I can think of but wearing a taimanin suit. And now suddenly we have thousands of new characters.
How do you keep your OCs consistent between gens?Is a lora the best way? I don't think I can be bothered with genning a bunch of images, sift out the ones that doesn't look close to my character and then train a lora on that
I wish we never moved on from based64. Do you remember how many amazing loras were baked for it? Those were the days...
>>8195294It's trash, styles are weak, no object permanence whatsoever. i would rather use Arti.
>>8195354>no object permanence whatsoeverit's pony
>>8195341more power to you because i dont have any specific fetish that i could do the same with
>>8195356Pony or Tofu - same shiny sloppa. Haven't seen a single decent tofu gen yet.
>>8195276checked and it looks great on 4th and absolutely terrible on tofu, which is a shame because on the latter images are looking cleaner, but probably it needs tinkering with weights
it's all so tiresome bros...
>>8195359tofu isn't real model but a toy, but sperging out about "muh it isn't flat cell shading like in my animes screenhots" is absolute autismit looks garbage but definitely doesn't have this pony 3dyish aco look
>wahh wahh wahhtake a break nigga you dont have to make hentai models your life
Tofu is a lot better at NSFW than neta/artiwaifu, but at the same time I feel like the aesthetics overall are a bit worse?I especially notice nipples being less good looking.
>>8195366>but definitely doesn't have this pony 3dyish aco lookAre you blind or just retarded?
>>8195340I've been rebaking Maryjane >>8194928 with 20-30 pics for a long time now. Didn't work on anyone else though, so this might not apply in general. Anyway:Dataset matters so much more than settings. Other than your character and her clothes, clean up anything the AI is not already capable of generating (as if it were using your dataset captions as a prompt). This includes weird unusual backgrounds, objects in the scene that are hard to tag or gen, other characters, awkward poses and so on. Either with lamacleaner, inpainting, masked loss, or removing the image altogether. Then make sure everything is tagged properly again after the removals. I do not prune any character tags, find that it learns better and the lora also ends up much more versatile. But then you do need to prompt out every little thing when genning, including basics like hair and eye color, which makes it hard to use for other people.Compared to all that, the settings barely matter. dim size is a big one, having it too low will prevent it from learning the details on her clothing and add random ones instead in each gen. But going higher makes it learn more style as well. The other big ones are LR and step count, which you'll have to experiment with. Same as with styles, every dataset seems to learn at a different rate. Optimizers, schedulers, buckets, noise offset, network dropout and so on, might as well be snake oil.
>>8195371This, pony is the perfect embodiment of anime style
>>8195305Jesus christ. I didn't know such a small detail could screw everything. I deleted everything and removed torch just to make sure. Thanks, anon.
>>8195360I just use 4th for now, I'm pretty happy with it so haven't even tried tofu yet.
>>8195371are you? have you seen how anime style illustrations shading looks past few years? https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?d=1&tags=order%3Arankyes, it's shiny and 3d, but pony has it own distinctive biasit's just once again case of "not like in my animes!"
>>8195376>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?d=1&tags=order%3ArankLemon-chan's sweaty butt.....
>>8195348I think we only have two OC waifufags, and neither cares much about consistency so they just use pure prompt. Not completely sure with cathag anon cause he seems to inpaint a lot.
>>8195376Some people have no eye for aesthetics.
>>8195378cathag anon is gone...
Can someone post a workflow template? I would like to learn the process of generating quality images and how to upscale and stuff. I just can't seem to get it right and don't know where i'm going wrong.
>>8195378OC? The only one I know is miqoteanon. Who is the other?
>>8195376So you are both retarded and blind, I see. Tofu a lot more aco than even animagine, fucking idiot. Knowing that those retards from 2ch train on AI outputs, there's just no way this sloptune didn't include pony or 1.5 gens in it either, not to mention it just looks fried.
>>8195365I've been enjoying training flux loras. Results are way superior than sdxl it terms of resemblance to the artist and that's on the base model.
>>8195392>training flux lorasHow is life as a rich person, anon? I can't imagine.
>>8194734>This is what ponyfaggot is doing with V7, this is what he experimented with V6 and this is why V7 will fuck and rape all NAI3 holes at style knowledge.Amen.
>>8195391>Tofu a lot more aco than even animaginedidn't know that asylum patients have access to the internethorsefucker really mindbroken people with his aco smegma
>>8195385he posted a few in thread #600probably just comes and goes, like a cat
>>8195391Relax, anon, it's pointless. Their eyes be like (sloppa:1.9).
>>8195391It's fried, but the dataset is purely 1.8M danbooru images.
>STILL hopeful about what ponyfaggot shits out nextgod, it's terminal
>>8195393They don't want you to know anon, but you can steal gpus, it is free.
>>8195399>but the dataset is purely 1.8M danbooru images.What kind of false advertising is that?
>search "shiny_skin" on booru>scroll down page by page and whisper "this is pony slop sepia this is /aco/ this is pony slop sepia" to myself
>>8195404schizophrenia
>>8195404If you're still not doing the same, you're not a real AI artist!
bwos, i love 1girl, pov, straddling, sex
Does anyone have a detailer workflow for ComfyUI that actually works with the latest version? The examples I keep finding all are missing some nodes because they people who made them abandoned them and are obsolete.
>>8195384That linked reddit thread with jeets dumping flux outputs was wild
>>8195412nice oni, what style is this?
>>8195409The detailer node itself is in ImpactPack https://github.com/ltdrdata/ComfyUI-Impact-PackThat's the only thing you need. Here's one with both that and Adetailer.
I can't think of any artist to try on 4th tail. Already have loras for all of the interesting ones.
>>8195420Yeah bro don't bother, AutismMix with a LoRA is all you need.
>>8195420try mixing, still works better than with loras stacks
fad shiny skin art styles are ephemeral.oekaki is forever.
>>8195420>>8195422>>8195423Yeah loras interfere with one another (and the base model) too much to be a good replacement for inherent styles
>>8195424i like both desu
anyone know some ways to make an Character LoRA not override the Artstyle LoRA? Reducing the weight works on some models but somethings the Character LoRA needs the weight.
This is the artstyle im tryna get
>>8195428First off, don't use shitty loras with style baked into them. Second off, Bleach girls work on every model I can think of without needing a lora at all.In other cases, there's not much you can do. You can weaken the character lora only during the upscale step, or during inpainting/adetailer. Or you can find a lora for the style the character is biased towards, and use it with a weak negative weight.
>>8195426basedsame here
whats the lowest youve set the cfg on your gens while still producing good results?
>>81954342.5 for an experiment here >>8192970Looks mostly alright though, just low on contrast.
>>8195417Excuse me, but what do these two nodes do? You make the mask yourself of what you want the detailer to modify?https://files.catbox.moe/13vro3.png
>>8195441Why is it so...
>>8195443it's 4th
>>8195439You load the image you want to work on. Then right click the Load Image node and "Open in mask Editor", draw the mask for the area you want to inpaint.The bottom flow is Adetailer. Which does the same thing but you don't provide a mask, it automatically detects faces to inpaint. You can switch the bbox detector model to hands, or download other detection models.
>>8195443it's ramen
>>8195249https://files.catbox.moe/phqxhw.png
>>8195411we should outsource all our trolling to reddit
>>8195408catbox?
>>8195464Econ101 taught me to never outsource my core business
nai download link pliz
>>8195468sent ;)
>>8195466the short term kek potential of the jeet subreddit outweighs the slow and steady gains you can expect by baiting here
>>8195465here ya go bwohttps://files.catbox.moe/k1tuql.pngi've yet to release the haoni lora tho
any good settings for character lora training?
>>8195474https://civitai.com/models/331832/haoni-style-pony-xllooks remarkably similar to r3cs attempt. haoni with a 4ch vae just isn't meant to be
>>8195471it feels like residents pony redditors moved from this thread, judging how ineffective baits are, and lack of bans for girls with smaller tits than d
>>8195477that's mine xdbut this is a rebake to try and get it closer
>>8195477it's got nothing to do with the 4ch vae.haoni's dataset is absolutely fucking GARBAGE. It's actually just filled with unusable inconsistent trash.t.tried to bother but gave up because it wasn't worth the time or effort.
>>8195480the flux test that someone did looked way better than the 2 or 3 different sdxl bakes we've had so far
>>8195480also go to his fanbox if you want a better datasethttps://kemono.su/fanbox/user/1355685
>>8195478god please let this be true
>>8195469thank :3
>>8195477>>8195479 (Me)i'm rebaking this to come a tad closer to his style, my previous version was lacking in color tones and lining style. its still lacking though...
How do I take my gens to the Next Level™?
>>8195504What level are they at right now?
>>8195505level 2
>>8195474ty
>>8195510for level 3 you need a nai sub, but you cal also jump all the way to level 6 by downloading pony
>>8195431Soifon doesnt work on pony
>>8195519https://litter.catbox.moe/5c7k39.pngThat's what I've been able to get with the old one on civit. One of the big problems is, that the lora is missing the grain effect and ddim is a poor substitute
I like 4th but hate having to weigh the styles by like 1.3 to get any effect and not get the default fried white style that burns my eyes
>>8195510Get the exclusive based64 loras from the 'cord.
time to check on /hdg/, my favorite thre--ohoh no.
>>8195538What's wrong, bro?
>>8195533i think the best way to add it is to do it in post processing since thats what the artist does after all as well, the lora/model is going to struggle with learning/generating it
>>8195545zero good posts in 13 hours
>>8195547be a change you want to see
>>8195533ddim was great with 1.5, actually it did exactly what you want to achieve, it was grainy/noisy. In sdxl they changed something that made ddim unusable junk, looks like artifacts are smeared all over any gen made with it.
>>8195547simply not true
>>8195546can't wait for all the photoshop filter loras, someone must make a packbonus points for training on a shitmix with hundred quadrillion repeats
>>8195561doesn't really matter to me if they fuck off, but the fact that there's like 7 of them, that just hang out her and shitpost while they wait for the ibukiposter to make his occasional appearance, is kinda annoying. just search for the archive for cute wife once a week if that's all you come here for
>>8195564stop replying to living miscarriage
>>8195564at this point, you are just making up scenarios in you head
looks like it's samefag shitpost o'clock
>>8195570lurk moar. we have a few posters that would like this thread to only consist of bing chilling tianmansquare and oppossumachine
>>8195577so truthful sis
and just like that the thread was derailed once again :(
>>8195577dont forget fkey
can't really derail the thread when it's this inactive. it's this nonsense discussion or nothing
>>8195583We just have to bide our time until the genners wake up
>>8195582oh no, not the fkey kek
>>8195052catbox?
Not a single good post itt
Wtf is this meltie, I think someone's hags might not have received (You)s. But you know what, I'm absolutely not responsible for that.
>>8195554i've tried the grain effect of alternate innit noise, but that extension is a pain to figure out
>>8195593Were there any hags posted even
>>8195593Unironically the acosloppers who get their shit clowned on lately got really salty.
>>8195603qrd?
>>8195604busy rn maybe later
hags?
>>8195420the real advantage it has like other people said is stacking artists better than pony
>>8195612tofu looking nice
>>8195615yes, i'm offended also, they should only use asura (asurauser) and fellatrix
>>8195613Tried a bunch more and so far they all seem very weak or just wrong, both Tofu and 4th Tail. Might just be undertrained, but then the model itself feels burnt already.
>>8195615saar? this is the adult women thread
>>8195627should put this in a filter
>>8195627>I prefer 4th tail over NAIv3 in basically every scenarioit still isnt anywhere close to being as useful for shitposting as NAI though
>>8195629you're responding to a pasta
>>8195631so?
minthy is #81 base model creator on civit while euge is #47. it was over for tofufags before it even started
>>8195612based
>>8195612tribal hags
NAI is the best
Pony is the bestest
>>8195643cow hags
i demand the one and only queen!
The booru for NAI sucks
>>8195651all boorus suck
>>8195652truth
>>8194552berunkasteru...
Is it best to generate the initial txt2img in a lower latent space and then tiled upscale by a large amount or generate the initial txt2img at a higher latent space and refine it with low img2img denoise?
>>8195659depends
>>8194882i'm actually really happy with how literal it is, you want light skinned i think, not pale skinned, which was a tag that barely worked on pony even if you weighted it up
>>8195660thanks
>tfw 30 min to train a lora for flux with only 2 images (it was just a test)>tfw with 30 images it has been stuck for hours and didn't even start
I made several styles that rely on a precarious balance between four overfit loras, which no one else is autistic enough to use. How do I transfer this to 4th tail to use with new characters? Even just going from reweik to autism shakes it all apart.
>>8195669if you're using sd-scripts then having the wrong number of images in a bucket can cause training to use 20-30% more vram and shit itself
>>8195659It is better to generate at the max resolution your model can support without breaking things. Which is 1024, and slightly higher for some prompts.
>>8195674I hope this is an example of it being shaken all apart and not what you were actually trying to achieve
>>8195674>a precarious balance between four overfit loras>its literally just mantis-x with a 2d tagbruh
>>8195677I'm using fluxgym running on a 4070ti with 12 gb vram. Is there such a thing as "wrong number of images"? What's the right number?
>>8195681kek>>8195683it's 0.3 mantis for the face, he makes flat stick children
>>8195616It's NAI
>>8195689idk, i also don't know if it applies to trainers other than sd-scripts. figuring out a good number of images is just trial and error for me
>>8195674same boat, switching models rn is just a horizontal change, when a new fine tuned architecture drops imma make a style lora on my gens, with wildcards
>>8195708good morning saar
>>8195718good morning big guy
>>8195647Kinda cute.
With 4th tail it seems like whatever artist you have first impacts the style the most even if you enclose them all in [ ]
bros.. look at where I ran into my student.
>>8195738>>8195776decent. based oji-san though
>>8195753Indeed first is super strong, you'll get completely different looking mixes with just reordering artists.Also masterpiece, best quality have a style bias and ruin sketchy styles I think. I even think testing artists is better without them because there is more variation.
bros look at my cute wife
>>8195799based that is an absolutely awesome artstyle i love the way the skin looks like she has been dead for a little bit
any idea how to make image more focused on face and mouth? portrait makes from chest up, danbooru images similar to what i want doesn't have any special tagshttps://litter.catbox.moe/dqs42h.png
>>8195807just face close-upor face focusI don't even know if they're tags but they work
>>8195799Quaesarcake has been a disaster for the /hdg/ race
>>8195804>>8195816B-but cute wife is healthyman, opossumachine, wamudraws...
>>8195807portrait and close-up should work. you should also gen on 1024x1024 instead
Why are expression loras so uncommon? Only a few for meme expressions on civit and nothing here. Shame since it's one of the few areas where local could be ahead of nai
>>8195823expressiveH is all you need
>>8195612>>8195622Nice style, I like the more rough and soft shading. Also the background on the first one is very thematic. If I may may come with some critique:>> I find the penis on the first image eerily long - in the second one it's slightly better.A->>8195626The bouncing breasts and fluids around the crotch are a nice touch, but here is some constructive criticism if you don't mind:>>Default pony shading is very apparent esp. on the breasts and arms. You can try "flat color" "soft shading" or grab a lora that reduces both.>> The left hip has a very sharp corner compared to the left one. >> Also I don't know if intentional or not, but the small white dots around the body, are they supposed to be sweat? Either remove them or make them have meaning.C->>8195643I like the detail of the added piercings on the animal ears, the POV perspective is also very well done and dynamic. However, here is what I would improve:>> The area around the belly button could use some sharpness and detail. Also the gold chain around the abs looks very blurry, same goes for the crotch area.>> The nail of the thumb on the left arm of the male are slightly longer than the one on the right. >> I don't know if the eye through hair on the face can be done better, because at the moment, it kinda looks like the eye is still on top of the hair.B+>>8195647Personally I like this one, nice composition, good background, the visible skindentation on the skin and the slight bulge on her cheek during fellatio. Some small critiques however:>> The girl's hair around the penis is good, but there are some strands of her hair below the penis that don't seem to connect.>> I think her foot on the right looks off - like she has her left foot on her right leg, because that looks like a big toe to me, or a very big little toe.>> The lineart on her hand is inconsistent in some places, as well on her long braid ponytail.A-Will continue with other images.
>>8195825i hope this was written by an llm
>>8195827it's /edg/ refugee
>>8195823Most art styles have their own variants of expressions, I wouldn't want to overwrite them with a single set. Like how "smug" is a shit-eating grin with wamudraws, a catface with porforever and a one-sided smile with akableak. You've got the same with naughty face, surprised, tired, crying, etc.
Why can't they just
>>8195708True. This isn't enough of an upgrade, more like a 6gb style+character lora. It is nice having more options though.
>>8195839I deleted vanilla autism, vanilla pony and reweik and downloaded 4th tail instead since most of my LoRAs look like shit on reweik, vanilla pony is useless and vanilla autism is just worse than confetti
>>8195842I actually find vanilla pony the most flexible model, provided you manage to tame the anatomy
>>8195825>uninpainted ponyslop gen gets an A-Alright then
thanks>>8195813threw it and it works, sort of https://litter.catbox.moe/8uyvp7.png pretty gacha and stiff but at least works to some extent >>8195822already had in the prompt but the resolution helped
>>8195831There are so many expressions that aren't tagged on the Boorus and can't be replicated by combining individual parts of expressions (open mouth, narrowed eyes, furrowed brows, etc) either.
>>8195851Such as? I don't mean to doubt you, I just have a limited imagination.
>>8195674Smooth and clean style in general, the eyes are well done and detailed on her, so is the expression. However:>> Emblem on the cap is slightly bent, and seems shading there is a bit wrong.>> the bottom left of her right fox ear seems to clip a bit through the hat or overlap it, and it looks like the right side of same ear is fused with the cap below.>> Eyebrows could use much more work, seems to melt together with her front hair.>> Her leotard is not symmetrical near the stomach bulge - notice the black line on right compared to the left one. See how it suddenly stops?>> The male pov abdomen looks like when your fingers are in the bath for too long. It needs to be either more muscular or smoother.>> Lastly, very nitpicky, but the fishnet on her right leg is inconsistent near right inner upper thigh. Probably some other places as well on her arms, but hard to see at a distance.B->>8195738As much as I hate to say this, since I'm more of a legal consenting age enjoyer, this is really good. Nice touch with the reflection. Perspective from the ground and the slight angle makes it dynamic. Only thing I would say could be fixed would be the left hand, ring finger looks a little long there to me. Also on the bottom outline of the dress, near to the left of her knee, small strand that sticks out compared to the rest.A+>>8195827Nope, just me being bored and autistic.Will continue.
We need more text
>>8195854are you highlighterino senpai?
I might be retarded but how do I go about inpainting with a pony generated image? I read around and some say it works, some say it doesn't work, and some say you need to use a different model to inpaint, is that accurate?
>>8195859Could you explain in more detail what you're trying to do? Right now it sounds like it is not accurate at all.
>>8195825>>8195854cringe but also basedI feel like we used to talk about gens much more back in the day, instead of discord drama and tribal wars
>>8195852https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4320354&tags=yd_%28orange_maru%29+saber_alter+take this one for example. i'd describe it as kinda haughty, annoyed and demanding. the only booru tags related to the expression here are assertive female and open mouth, which is simply far too broad. my attempts at recreating it with combinations of open mouth, wavy mouth, annoyed, assertive female either resulted in yandere look or the usual looking at human trash.
>>8195861Fix stuff up like nipples and whatnot without the use of a detailer. Add effects like motion lines/blur, impact, as well as stuff like sweat.
>>8195865Furry guide but read this, I have no issues inpainting on pony whatsoever>https://rentry.org/fluffscaler-inpaint
>>8195863as if mass replying isn't discord behavior
>>8195859You want to use a different model if you want an infill inpainting, i.e. inpainting where 100% of the inpainted area is replaced and it still seamlessly fits with the rest of the image. There is an animagine inpainting model for that. I doubt it's anywhere close to NAI's inpainting model though.Otherwise no, you don't need a different model, just use pony and set denoise to 0.4-0.8 depending on how much you want the area to change.
>>8195869Thank you babe, kiss kiss.
>>8195864Ah, so you would come up with some new tags then train stuff like this, nice idea. Still, I would expect the expressions to either have serious style bias or not train properly, due to how different they are for each artist.
>>8195871>You want to use a different model if you want an infill inpainting, i.e. inpainting where 100% of the inpainted area is replaced and it still seamlessly fits with the rest of the image.I assume this would be like for adding a new character in the image entirely and stuff like that? What's that model if you have it?
>>8195738catbox?
>>8195863a post with 10 letters versus a post with 2000 letters has the same worth to me if it isn't accompanied by an image
>returned to A1111>feels like previous prompts linger somewhere and affect later prompts somehowIs it just my imagination?
>>8195776Love the expressions and faces in general. Setting is fitting, and a nice detail with the males fingers touching her pussy from behind. The towel under her hand, and the genitals of both can be seen slighty through the semi-transparent clothes. The skin folds around her crotch and thighs are nice details. Nice too with the skindentation from her overtight swimsuit. On to the ciritque:>> You can see the bottom of her real lips kinda still there despite the wavy 2d mouth.>> The teeth on the male is inconsistent in the upper corners of his mouth. >> The fingers near her pussy are kinda there just floating. They are in the right place, but would be nice to see them penetrating her visually or between the pussy lips.B+>>8195834Must be same genner as >>8195674, I'd say it's an improvement, esp. around the face and ears. Here is what I would improve:>> Her breasts seem asymmetrical in terms of size. Her right one looks slightly bigger compared to her left one. >> Her lower body is blurry to capture that it's further away but the transition could be done better near her right shoulder. Also maybe some more defined features, back muscles, side muscles on her abdomen/torso to more easily distinguish what is what on the lower half of her body.>> The male penis glans is very hard to distinguish, that or it's just foreskin. The testicles could maybe use a light touch of detailing.B>>8195858I'm better than highlighterino senpai, I actually explain what I find good and bad in pictures, and try to come up ideas on how to fix said bad things. I try to stay as unbiased as possible, but feel free to come with any arguments against any of my critique.
>>8195875https://civitai.com/models/430948/animaginexl-inpaintingFlux can do it too if you have the vram.Other models can't normally go high enough denoise to add new character. But you could draw in most of their body with simple colored blobs, from there it can be done with lower denoise and standard models.
>>8195880what sampler?
>>8195882>breasts seem asymmetrical in terms of sizeThat's an interesting point actually. it's not unusual irl for them to be slightly different size, but it pretty much never happens in anime or /aco/. Unless it's intentional, like if she's interrupted during breast expansion.
>>8195885Euler a
>>8195883>Other models can't normally go high enough denoise to add new characterThis is bullshit. just switch to latent noise and whole image and you can inpaint whatever you want as long as the canvas space is enough
Every now and then 4th tail breaks for me and I get this error: RuntimeError: Expected all tensors to be on the same device, but found at least two devices, cuda:0 and cpu!Doesn't happen with any other model or checkpoint
>>8195876https://files.catbox.moe/qfv3sk.png
>>8195880Setting is fitting for the character in the picture, for a gen with default resolution it's not the worst, but it could REALLY gain a lot from upscaling the right way. I'd suggest multidiffusion upscale (extras -> 2x upscale -> img2img low denoise,low cfg -> enable multidiff -> mixture of diffusers -> tile width and length the same as initial picture)Also maybe use forge/reforge instead of auto1111, I'm using reforge for more compatibility with existing extensions.Also some more points:>> Is it writing on her left leg, or is it to mark how many times she has been cummed in? You can use inpaint sketch or a image editior to manually draw in lines, then inpaint over with very low denoise to get the text you want.>> The colors are a little dull, I'd suggest using the vectorscope extension, sd-webui-color enhancer extension or/and a different vae than the default sdxl one. Maybe also put monochrome and grayscale in negatives.>> Be careful with that nose with visible nostrils and visible lips, some might say it's *gasp* aco/western artstyle. I personally don't mind it that much and this will not deduct from your final score. Just a warning if you show art to others here, they might complain.For now, you get a C, but if you do the above I suggested, I'm sure you can come up and hit at minimum a B+! Let me know if you need help with anything else.
>>8195892u on comfy?
>>8195895automatic1111
>>8195893thanks
I'm not posting my gens as long as they get so savagely critiqued here
>>8195896hmm are you using any extensions? or heavy loras. That error may happen if something is being offloaded into your cpu cuz the gpu can't handle it anymore.
>>8195891Then deal with the seams. But you get her floating in space, instead of placed in a meaningful way into the environment.The easiest way to see the difference between a regular and inpainting model is outpainting. Just extend the image in one or more directions. I guarantee the added sections will not make any sense in relation to the rest of the image, even if you feather the mask to avoid a hard seam.
https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVxM3LnO
>>8195894The reason I went back to A1111 is because I get an OOM error every second gen when using old forge/reforge. It is annoying enough to make me not want to go back and I have found no solutions to it. New forge doesn't have that problem but regional prompter doesn't work on it and it is an extension I like to use a lot. Forge Couple just doesn't work as well for me.I will think about upscaling like you suggested. The image you're evaluating wasn't something I spent a lot of time on. When I gen I just like churn out images and tweak the prompt constantly instead of spending too much time on any one image. And yes those are supposed to be tally marks.
fkey
>>8195902i don't think i even gen images nowadays
>>8195904>fkeybased
>>8195903>I get an OOM error every second gen when using old forge/reforgeI should specify that this only occurs when using LORAs.
>>8195902where's the option where you only post images on the 'cord
>>8195901Phoneposting rn, but give me a catbox and tell me what to inpaint/outpaint and I'll do it later
>>8195904Looks like shit
>>8195902I post but never more than plain text gens without inpainting
>>8195902I don't post images because I like to gen western characters and non-vanilla stuff. This general is my tech support general.
>>8195918I'm not against being your tech support, thanks for not shitting here.
>>8195914My first thought was, damn fkey looks like ass without all those other artists mixed in. But actually it's still a mix of seven artist, so the look has to be intentional.
https://discord.gg/fHwuKTSBEuge made a 'cord...
>>8195902I actually gen a lot but I only post images that I think are somewhat worth posting
>>8195924It's over eugebros... The trooncord virus is always fatal
Yet another absolute MASTERPIECE for /hdg/
You need choodles like me so you can point your fucking fingers and say "That's the bad guy"
>>8195904One last critique. The clothes are nicely detailed, and design wise well done and symmetrical in most places. Her underwear has some good detailing as well with the creases. But some issues I have with the image are:>> 6 toes on her right foot, if you look close enough>> The pinky on the right hand is too thin>> The pinky on the left is too short>> Right eye pupil is deformed>> The red dotted lines on black design on her right shoulder is inconsistent compared to the rest.>> Also this picture does not adhere to board rules, and is clearly lolicon. Notice the {{{Loli}}} in the prompt, flat chest, etc.D-
of course the scorespammer is antiloliso he was a shitposter the whole time
>>8195941It's obviously a falseflag
>>8195941>scorespammerWho?
mass replies (superfaggot) + vague non-critic (megafaggot) = that gigafaggot
>>8195944its cathag aka birdanon
>>8195948cathag and birdanon being the same person is my favorite schizotheory
It's all treexir trying to get users to move to treechan
>>8195952treexir is no longer in this world, let it go anon...
backpedaling I see
>>8195948>>8195950I only have one wife and it sure as fuck isn't the miqote.
>>8195897I forgot to mention. My meta doesn't reflect it, but it's i2i from black image. I don't think you'll get the same result in t2i.
>>8195957Cathag isn't miqote bro, get up to speed with the lore.....
>>8195962He's trying to deflect because that schizotheory is dead on accurate.
Why do I even bother?
>>8195962We need one of those character relationship diagrams for regulars at the start of each thread
>>8195924It's kinda lonely.
Can someone give me an artist that 4thtail/tofu failed at that you didn't expect to?
tofu might actually be a really decent model if minthy manages to make the anatomy more consistent, i'll be looking forward to the second version for sure
>>8195972gsusart was close but i think the ai interprets most of the artstyle as slime or something lol
>>8195972That's most of them though. I just cope with mixing 6+ of them and praying that it will look nice enough.
>>8195972as109 on 4th without character tags looks horrid
>>8195941>>of course the scorespammer is antiloli>>so he was a shitposter the whole timeNot a loli fan no. I do like petite girls too, but when the loli tag is put into so much emphasis for the gen, poster gotta know what they themselves are getting into.I will admit, that because it is loli, that It probably influenced my initial grade I gave the image. And thinking about it again, I would probably have given it something along the lines of a C+ or B- for the artstyle alone, but what pulls it down in terms of grade are the fingers, toes, upper part of the dress and right eye which are all easy things to fix.>>8195944I think they are referring to me.>>8195945>>mass replies (superfaggot) + vague non-critic (megafaggot) = that gigafaggotWhich vague non-critic? Can you be more specific anon? Sounds like you're the one who is being vague now.>>8195948>>its cathag aka birdanonNah I'm not these two you refer to.But I'll stop mass replying for now/giving grades if it's a huge annoyance to others. Sorry about that!
>>8195972Tanabe Kyou's Shinobu just doesn't come out as Tanabe Kyou, even with higher weights
>>8195972kyokucho it's super fucked
>>8195987To be fair his artstyle is pretty inconsistent
Speaking of artstyles, do any of you know artists that draw more natural butts, esp. ones on the larger end? I feel like with 4thtail/pony that I always get butts that look like two beach balls stuck under the skin or in general looks like fake silicone butts.
>>8195984>which are all easy things to fix.There's no point in taking apart that anon's gens, he's not gonna be able to fix them. He said he only has access to nai via discord bot that doesn't allow inpainting.
>>8195996any example image of "natural butts"?
>>8195996dont prompt huge_ass
>>8195984if you enjoy doing then imo its much better for someone to get some feedback than no interaction at all
>>8195999that's the perfect size
>>8195999he's probably talking about how most artists don't draw the ass sagging ever so slightly
>>8195978>>8195981>>8195985>>8195987tested these on the anima web demo and they look decent (the bad ones are arti). yup im thinking anima is going to win big!
>>8196003>>8196004try "dimples of venus" instead of just "ass"
>>8196006yeah, that looks like kyokucho, now try yd please
>>8195913Here, I made an empty beach in 640x1024 https://litter.catbox.moe/f1djzx.pngThen I add a 1girl standing into the prompt and extend the image to a 1024 square.Base pony: https://litter.catbox.moe/gol2yz.pngTofu: https://litter.catbox.moe/pexk4i.pngAnimagine: https://litter.catbox.moe/z2hp1x.pngAnimagine-Inpainting: https://litter.catbox.moe/fbk0tx.png
>>8196008Yd my beloved
>>8196006>anima is going to win big!Bold assumption that it's ever going to be released.
>>8195972saw a bunch already listed before >>8194911 >>8194928
>>8195999not this ugly ass thats for sure
>>8195999Missing about 2 ascensions
>>8196006please kill yourself and go back to your wd trooncord, in that order
>>8196006yeah as109 not as soulful as on 4th https://litter.catbox.moe/702gvy.png
>>8196018holy fucking projection
>>8196014Based
why the fuck does fangdong give you oppusummachine on 4th tail / tofudid minty train on nai3 outputs?
>>8196023hey you added extra fingers, that isnt fair.those are clearly copy and pasted
>>8196024Kek for me ciloranko does the same (also gives opossumachine).
>>8196024are you putting artists to the front of the prompt? somebody had this issue because he had it in the middle
>>8196024Try antifreez3
>>8196029no, i mean that i'm not prompting for opossumachine in the first place>>8196031duh
>>8196024Wait, did you really think he didn't use synthetic datasets?
>>8196034i guess i wasn't aware of his exact level of retardation
>>8196033yes, that way other anon got aki99 instead of as109 because of tag placement, also in fact zhedong is tagged as antifreez3 on 4th
>>8195999uhh, mods?
>>8196038what is the correct tag for ciloranko then?
>>8196038yes of course i'm tagging it as antifreez3 but how the fuck did minty tag his dataset for that to give you opossumachine
once again 4th tail proves itself as a meme
>>8196000Noted>>8195999Pic related, made a poorly detailed example just to show what I mean. I used a mix of western artists + one hentai artist to get this look. I was hoping if any of you knew some hentai artists that do the same thing with the sagging butt.>>8196004Yeah exactly, where the ass isn't super round.
>>8196041it's some odd bug with artists scrambling, be sure to prompt in this order:by artist, masterpiece, best quality, rest of the prompt
>>8196044that's obviously what i'm doing, why do you keep assuming i'm a fucking retard
>>8196008yd (orange maru)
>>8196047because somebody had similar issue yesterday and it got solved that way, if that's not the case then do what you want
>>8196048hair and face looks like it but I would need to see a full nude to confirm
>>8196051most of these just look like futa autopaizuri images
>>8196053it looks too glossy overall
>>8196053
Anons, want to hear something funny? I was testing tofu whole evening yesterday. Except apparently UI bugged out and I was using not tofu, but Autism.
>>8196057only far right truly looks like it imo but thanks anyway
>>8195972Define failed at Because I can tell it's attempting to approximate most of the artists I've tried just not to the level I want There were some artists with 120-200+ danbooru entries that felt they weren't being represented at all though:zuntaaa-ranceredroplun7732 koyama hirozakuunadon namaniku atk (Coloring/shading was fried to all hell for whatever reason) orion (orionproject) hayama kazusa (Mostly fried shading/coloring)tanabe (Studio tiamat) - Maybe???846-gouthirty 8ghtlackobmaslackStandard for the above failing is "If I looked at it with 1 glance couldn't have guessed what artist it was trying to replicate".All artist tags placed at the very front of the prompt.Also cutesexyrobutts came out looking like orangemaru's cousin and augmented my gal's pubic hair with pubic plating
>>8196043Try Obui. He's very weak though.
>>8196054don't project your browsing history on me fampai
>>8196068My standard is, it's better at 1.0 weight than a pony lora or innate artist at 0.9 strength. So far only zankuro passed, and maybe asanagi.
>>8196073most nai artists would fail that test desu
>>8196068Also you can add shexyo and mimonel to the "Fried as hell coloring" list
it even gen the halos correctly. https://files.catbox.moe/snpphw.png
>>8196073You forget that while with lora you are getting more accurate artist representation, you also destroy a ton of other knowledge in the process, because lora is like a really fast and REALLY retarded finetune. In this sense it's better to sacrifice some artist accuracy (you will be mixing them anyway) but have him be innate to model and mitigate this drawback.
>>8196083There's a reason you rarely see nai gens that don't mic 3+ artists. They really have to step up the dataset curation in that area for V4
>>8196051Do illya and her flat chestCatbox it if needed
>>8196051florence from fgo variant please
>>8196090>In this sense it's better to sacrifice some artist accuracy (you will be mixing them anyway) but have him be innate to model and mitigate this drawbacki'll just keep using my loras that actually look like the artist, thank you very much
>>8196091>There's a reason you rarely see nai gens that don't mic 3+ artistsI don't know man, maybe nai isn't actually that great at replicating single artists, but I personally feel like just using one artist is extremely fucking boring most of the time. I always mixed artists back in 1.5 days and had a blast with nai for this reason.
>>8196089and if i were to use that many loras to get that style on autism it would be a fucking mess. also hands and feet are pretty consistent. https://files.catbox.moe/rdpjya.png
>>8196090>you will be mixing them anywayNo I don't. I mostly prompt artists that I already think look very nice and really wouldn't know how to improve their style by mixing. Never saw the appeal of trying to fix ugly artstyles
>>8196089Tbdesu animagine does Yuzu's halo correctly too. But some other harder ones not really. Try Kisaki.
>>8196089Zased
vile nonces
>>8196089>>8196101that cunny and body type is just so beautiful, gorgeous, chef kissunironically, pony could neverill never forget what pony and the horsefucker took from me
>>8196092>>8196093gimme a bit i gotta take a shit
>>8196112bro he's using a pony finetune
>>8196115which is?
>>8196104Do they really come up with different ones for each character? I thought it was faction based, or just color variants. There's only so much you can do with a floating circle.
>>8196112I don't get, who took what. You can just download 4th tail and gen however much you want?? It's free...
>>8196115exactlytook months for someone to fix horsefuckers garbage
>>8196119at the risk of repeating a meme, you literally could do this before with a lora lol
unironically pleased with astras decision to prune loli from v7. rectangle shaped little girls just poison the models understanding of anatomy too much. It's awfully apparent on tponynai and other tunes that tried to reintroduce the concept. have to waste a bazillion tokens to restore the perfect hourglass figure there
>>8196112you fucking clown
>>8196120I used to think that it's some sort of trolling but that reddit thread really opened my eyes. Some people are completely blind to nuance, details and styles, so "baking a style lora" for pony really is enough for them to feel satisfied.
>>8196112huge headed toddlers are the only "loli" body type pony and shitmixes can produce unlike NAI, try do "hebes"
>>8196123So much this.
>>8196104here, https://files.catbox.moe/cocur2.png
>>8196125i would agree with you if the gen in question was from nai and not from 4th tail
>>8196120Sorry bro, that's just not true, NAI > 4th > pony with loras. No loras for pony ever get even close to _there_.
We love toddlers around here
>>8196130A finetune is not a lora.
>>8196117>There's only so much you can do with a floating circle.Gacha character designers are on another level. they are confined to the modern moe style and have to draw hundreds of characters that look distinct while only varying hair, eyes, outfit and in this case the halo. All the characters should ideally also be cute and wear as little clothing as possible to get players to roll.
>>8196132>>8196134have you people even used 4th tail or are you just shitposting
>>8196129Yeah that's much much better than animagine's attempts. Very nice. I think Minthy said next bake is with 2.5x larger dataset, it's probably gonna be mindblowing. Though considering how long it took him between previous versions, it's probably gonna be a while until then.
>>8196133this is the post
>>8196129uooh
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>>8196136i dont generate any images, i just come here for the memes
Even with straight-on, 4th keeps giving me dutch angle type of shit. What can I do to help it not give me these artsy shits?
Jordach will keep moving backwards until all the donation funds are destroyed
>>8196117every single one has a different haloexcept the actual NPC mobs
>>8196144Change your dimensions
>>8196145We've moved on, bro. Cunnyfags got 4th, everyone else never cared about jordachtune in the first place.
>>8196129Erotic
genuine question,how do you guys go about finding new mixes for nai? each time I find some good mix it ends up being super inconsistent.
>>8196129>>8196089>>8196101also if you're here, big thanks to bakariso-senpai for providing the cunny dataset
>>8196151Just gen more.
>>8196147I'm at 1024x1024 already, I noticed the other dimensions have even more of it so I went back to here, but even then it still wants to give me this shit
>>8196142>>>/e/retard
>>8196147How do I transcend my human boundaries?
>>8196155Straight-on is just a weak tag tbdesu. Idk what to recommend you though, because I actually like "artsy" angles...
>>8196155>straight-onfront view is an e621 tag also for this
>>8196156Now that you pointed out, I haven't pay my /h/ tax on this thread yet but I'm out of ideas at the moment
>>8196160I don't think 4th is trained on e621 (yet...)
>>8196166it's still pony
>>8196166Shit, forgot that it's a pony finetune. It kinda forgot most of pony though.
>>81961664th is a finetune of PonyYou can still use anything from before.
>>8196160Even with both, it's giving me the girl upside down at a 45 degree angle towards the top a lot of the time. What is wrong with this shit
Is there a good dimension setting for landscape + missionary?
>>8196170Might be your other tags, or a bias from the artist. It does feel unstable tho.
>>8196170also try contrapposto in negs maybebut 4th it's quite fried and i think that obscures weaker tags
what the FUCK is causing this? why does the training gradually slow to a crawl? i dont have anything else running and im not generating samples either.
>>8196176Shot in the dark but if you're on nvidia do you have shared gpu memory on?
>>8196170As a last resort try Tofu
>>8196179>if you get slop, try more slop!
>>8196176probably swapping vram to ram
>>8194294I wanna ask real quick,when training a character lora am I supposed to use the highest resolution images possible? Because he thing I want to train doesn’t exactly have a lot of fanart or high quality images (it’s kinda niche old character..)
>>8196178>>8196184thanks that was it! it's recovering!!!
Okay extracting 4th 0.5 as a lyco, and then using the tags first on the prompt works way better than I expected. Thanks for the anon that suggested to use the artist firsts in the prompt
>>8196191ideally you should always use images with more than 1024^2 or so pixels. you can also just upscale your images below that size
>>8196198ganbatte gpu-kun
how many artist combinations is too many for 4th tail
>>8196199>extracting 4th 0.5 as a lycoinstructions on how to do this please.
>>819619992m?
is catbox down
>>8196212best hentai itt
>>8196199>Okay extracting 4th 0.5 as a lycoCan somebody explain why would you ever do this?Suppose you want 4th on reweik. Why not just do add difference "reweik + (4th - pony)"? With lyco you are doing exactly the same except you are adding compressed garbage difference instead of actual difference. If you just want it weaker, you can set a multiplier and do "reweik + 0.7 * (4th - pony)". But why would you EVER want a shitty extract?
NAI or Local?
>>8196222it's always local on someone's machine
>>8196222Local
>>8196222local
>>8196222local, nai could never (produce this slop)
>>8196222IDK but her face is ugly.
>>8196222Doesn't really matter, it's ugly af
>>8196222nai pretending to be local
>>8196217Talking about gens is off-topic, this is a text boardhttps://litter.catbox.moe/vo4imz.jpg
>>8196209yes, nice eye>>8196206kinda hard to do, but uploaded one with (huge) 384dim here https://mega.nz/file/xo40xIba#0sGl6AtLdtAI6L_tsS3BMCZY04IwW8czS2TNKX0PM0gLet me know if you need less or more size (like 128, 256 or 512 dim). 384dim is about 3GB so it's like using kinda a checkpoint as a LoRA/Lyco. 3GB LoRA will take ages to start to gen on A1111, but it should be fast on Forge/reForge/Comfy.>>8196216you mean merging the models with add difference on the ui? honestly i just didn't think about it, since the extract just works. Not sure what values to use when using add difference (i'm using the extracted lyco on matrix v160), prob have to see a guide for that
anima demo page https://3fc833dc5b78cf5e37.gradio.live/go to free-prompt inference to test it. your prompts are logged btwquality tags seem to be >extremely aesthetic, beautiful,
>>8196235>go to free-prompt inference to test it. your prompts are logged btwyeah nah thanks
>>8196233There's only one value that you have to experiment with, the multiplier. Since you probably want lora compatibility (not sure if there's any other reason to not just use 4th), I guess you want it weaker than 1 (extract certainly makes it weaker). But how much weaker so that loras work and at the same time the merge is actually able to replicate 4th's artists, you will probably have to find yourself by trial and error.
>>8196235Actually decent hounori. Is there anywhere with info on anima?
>>8196235buy an add and kill yourself in that order
good morning jordach!
>>8196242Thanks anon, gonna try.Tried with these settings but got a corrupt model output, am I doing it wrong?
>>8196257Anon, it's B - C, so 4th - Pony is when you put 4th in B.Also you probably want to bake in VAE from at least one of those. I guess go with matrix since it will be your base, but they probably all use standard SDXL vae anyway.If it still doesn't work then IDK, I'm merging through comfy myself nowadays, but this window used to work too.
>>8196263Okay perfect, using B 4th and C Pony worked as expected.I use the sdxl fixed vae, so gonna bake it there.Thanks anon for the help.
has anyone managed to get spooning sex to work on 4th tail
Quite cute face expression
>>8196279>x1221wtf
>>8196235wtf this is really good
>>8196010https://litter.catbox.moe/3gp54x.pngHere. Not exactly a splendid result, but not at the point where I'd say it doesn't make sense either. Would need another pass to fix the seams
>>8196283proof?
4th Tail doesn't seem to release my RAM, after a few dozen gens I have to restart 1111
>>8196281I downscale after upscale. Not sure why, but width doesn't upscale in step with height. So when downscaled numbers can get weird.
>>8196286it can replicate a character with 134 images on danbooru with just the character + copyright
>>8196235so he cant release it because of laws, but can let people generate anything they want on his hardware, how does that make sense
>>8196235how do I download full images doe?
>>8196311he can't release the weights because it's a saas model that they'll start charging for soonthis is literally paid shilling
Did I set it up right? Never messed with VAEs before
>8196313yep this is gook nai
>>819624620m dataset, sdxl. the models in the demo are apparently randomized with some current ones thrown in like kohaku. supposed to 'release' soon but unclear in what formats and how restricted.
It's nai
>/hdg/ has fallen so low that some random trooncord guy can shill his saas model here with no backlashgrim
ugh, so many shill... quick, post pony! and don't forget to subscribe to astralite platinum to help accelerate research into safe and ethical local releases!
how many steps for adetailer?
>>8196329so much this, we need to protect the beauty of pony at all costhate shills so much
real /hdg/ when? so tired of this ugly pony acoslop...
>>8196235Yeah, it's nice, maybe even NAI level nice. 100% going to be saas.What's the correct way to prompt for artists? "fkey", "by fkey", "artist:fkey", something else?
>>8196336Define real
>>8196329moar
>>8196337seems to just be the artist name, or by artist name
>>8196329exactly, i'm sure that this shilled garbage doesn't have any dataset from the best imageboard r34.xxx ! how it can make characters from from my favorite animes like ben10 and artists like fellatrix
>>8196337Looked up gens from the guy shilling it in WD trooncord, here's an example prompt1girl,solo,makise kurisu,(pigeon666, hekouziran),[wanke, urkt_10],huke,clockwork background,smirk,mika pikazo,colorful,digital dissolve,Negative prompt: worst quality,bad quality,bad anatomy,bad proportion,Steps: 28, Sampler: Euler a, Schedule type: Automatic, CFG scale: 7.5, Seed: 4027990015, Size: 1248x1824, Model hash: e9e7b33c3f, Model: 0911-10600, Emphasis: No norm, Discard penultimate sigma: True, Version: f2.0.1v1.10.1-previous-431-g388b7013>100% going to be saas.let us huff a bit of copium please.
>>8196339real hentai not /aco/ pretending to be /h/
>>8196347>let us huff a bit of copium pleasei mean he already confirmed that it's saas, he's baking it with the compute of this company:https://tootoon.ai/en/anima
Damn, if this garbage is considered close to nai, then I'm glad I never got a sub
wait, youre telling me the next state-of-the-art hentai model is... SAAS SHIT??? WHAT THE FUCK??? by some random gook too that nobody even heard of. i was expecting a banger release by a prominent local baker like jordach, neggles, or kohaku. what happened??? local was making so much good progress and now everyone's back to talking about saas>>8196303what the hell, surely cascade can do this too right? jordach just said an hour ago that the next partial is insanely good. did wdv resume baking after the temporary setback? where are the local avengers?!?
>>8196360this shitpost would make more sense if it wasn't worse than nai
No one has dethroned GODstralite thus far.
>>8196353UnderstandableI'm not gening /h/ right now but here, enjoy a busty elf
I'm so tired of the ironic meltdowns
let's post sexy pony gens to scare off the shills
>>8196366very sexy hentai, sir! please post some Gwen paizuri
>>8196313Still less shameless than NAI astroturfing.
>>8196372nah
It looks good but more like 'peak of local' good. It's where I'd reasonably expect Kohaku to be at by now. I'm not seeing vpred, the dynamic range seems a bit limited on some artists. Hands seem often fried but it's so lowres I can't tell. The most impressive thing is probably low-frequency character/artist recognition. If the dataset is actually 20m you'd expect them to be lost amongst everything like in Kohaku Zeta. Clearly there's far more work to be done than just slopping images into a training program. There must be some technique to emphasize characters/artists that local models like 4th tail are failing to implement.If it's saas it shouldn't be priced above $5/month really. Visually it looks like local with loras, which would be a cool base model to have, but not to pay for.
>>8196377>The most impressive thing is probably low-frequency character/artist recognitionmaybe compared to pony (lol). but since this is a saas model you have to compare it to nai, and it didn't recognize several characters with 200+ danbooru entries that nai has never failed at for me
>>8195447That was very helpful, thank you.
>>8196377Competition is nice though, there are plenty of people who would pay for something like this at $5-$10 a month or something
>>8195589https://files.catbox.moe/e5bnjx.png
>>8196377Fuck off shill. You are not allowed to mention, discuss and praise any model that is not based on pony. Otherwise you are an obvious paid astroturfing shill.
>>8196387why are you so offended about the gooknai shill getting called out for what he is
hahaha he thinks he can compete with us
>>8196389Because 4chan would be a much better place if every single faggot that is seriously using "shill" in every fucking discussion was executed immediately.
>naikiller finally drops>its another saas model>freeturds immediately start shitting and pissing about it love to see it
>>8196395i'd rather see newfaggots like you die personally
>>8196393naisisters, we're safe
>>8196398t. 2016 oldfag
>>8196400every single time
>>8196199Could you post catbox?
>>8196400you would have hurt me more if you called me a 2008 oldfag
>>8196403>>8196401>>8196400>>8196399>>8196398>>8196396>>8196395fuck off shills
>>8196398>>8196400youre both disappointments and ive been here since 2004. please consider killing yourselves
uh oh!
So what's the latest, hot model?
>>8196406Sexy hentai gen! Who's the mangaka?
>>8196406Nice try but all the real oldfags post in some ugly ass retro anime style and are offended at the slightest bit of shading in a gen
>>8196040Guess none, ciloranko just got fucked because of my fault, I didn't double checked when was packing datasets to send for minthy and named cilo as opossum and opossum as opossum>>8196029It's because artist tags was not shuffled, that what minthy said. When it was shuffled in earlier attempts styles was too weak. Maybe it could be resolved by continuation from this checkpoint with shuffle>>8196152Yeah, I just provided to him all of autistically curated cleaned datasets that I was using to loracope with, sadly that I've fucked cilo tho just by naming dir incorrectly
>>8196414>Guess none, ciloranko just got fuckedSo I wasn't insane, ciloranko isn't there, I also feel like riichu is fucked as well
>>81964084th tail
>hates anime>comes to an anime threadexplain this mental illness
BBC in a nice source of news
>loves anime>comes to a pony threadexplain this mental illness
>>8196418It's the consequence of all other entertainment being so shit that the only option left is anime and manga. It would be tragic, if only it was not self-inflicted.
>>8196412/h/ is the first board i found in May of 2004 and I haven't left since that day. It all started because of a Naruto thread no less.I'm 28. You do the math.
>>8196416Never trained him, so if it's fucked too it's probably because minthy didn't bothered with cherrypicking every single artist and this one really looks like it could use some
>>8196433>he ws only 7, 8 at best yeah sure we believe you
>>8196443>Never trained him, so if it's fucked too it's probably because minthy didn't bothered with cherrypicking every single artistBut it IS within the artists tags he claim the model can do>https://civitai.com/models/282341/4th-tail-animehentai>https://files.catbox.moe/zeac9p.txtSo he didn't actually train all of them?, what about the characters?
>>8196443Enma Ai DOKO? Next dataset better have every single image of her inside or else I will be REALLY MAD AND I WILL... do nothing... in minecraft.
>>8196449is jigoku shoujo even good
>>8196426 mmm yes, thick and veiny, perfect features for lovely girlsim not talking about the penis though
>>8196450No. I watched it when I was 14 or something. I think I could watch anything back then.
>new saas drops>localsaars piss and shit themselves againholy kek, cant wait for v4. they absolutely shart themselves over the reality that local remains infinitely far behind
Day 3 of generating bitches sitting on cake with no sign of stopping
Is there a good yolov8 model for segmenting realistic chests? All the adetailer models on Civit work well for anime, but don't work for realistic images.
Baitsisters...
soulsisters...
>>8196453same>>8196450I think it was okay'ish? Each EP had its own story with some overarching plot, I think it might've been fun if you didn't binge it. iirc it shat itself with the 3rd season, descended into yurisloppa or whatever
>>8196451Sorry, If I crank up veiny penis it stats adding veins everywhere
>>8196457https://huggingface.co/Anzhc/Anzhcs_YOLOs/tree/main
>>8196461hyper is /d/, retard.
>>8196463That one's on Civit too and I've tried it. Doesn't work well on chests. I should probably mention that I mean clothed female chests. Bare breasts don't seem to be an issue.
>>8196460I mean at least Ai is voiced by Noto Mamiko so that's a plus. But the episodic stories would probably be cringe and boring as hell if I tried rewatching it now, and the overarching plot doesn't start until S2 iirc.
>>8196453>>8196460>>8196469I seeI'll probably just gen without watching then.
>>8196448> So he didn't actually train all of them?You got it wrong, it should be there, what I mean is it was not curated as autistically, as some c**ny artists>>8196449But theres alot hag versioned pics which doesn't even look like her https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4856545 are you sure? Might be you perhaps have a good dataset already?
>>8196448because there's a difference between actually training artists tags and simply having artist tags in the dataset. kohaku zeta has artist tags in the dataset but can't reproduce a damn thing. special techniques need to be employed
>>8196465your mom is /d/, retard
>>8196472I don't, I only started genning her on NAI, so never collected any datasets for loras.That's not a hag though, just not a very well drawn image. IDK I can gather images of course, but only with booru tags, I'm not going to retag them.
>>8196483>>>/e/
Anons I may run the complete artist wildcard on 4th tail 0.5, it is 8800 artists...How much do you guys think it can take if I add hi-res fix + adetailer on a RTX 4090?
>>8196472>>8196477>You got it wrong, it should be there, what I mean is it was not curated as autistically, as some c**ny artistsOh ok then, hopefully he can fix it on the next version
>>8196465Sorry, I hope this caters more to your taste
>>8196492that's still hyper, retard.
>>8196447That's what happens when youre an unsupervised retard with internet access, as primitive as it was. You don't have to believe a word from me, but that is the unfortunate truth
>>8196472Ideally though she should be recognized even without specifically adding more of her images... NAI can do it. That gooknai model can do it. Besides the much larger dataset I guess it's probably the same trick they use of emphasizing gradients for rare tags during training, forgot it's name.
>>8196492that's still hyper, retard
Is retard an offensive word?
>>8196493>>8196498>>8196500>>8196509Sorry I will do better next time
>>8196504yes, retard
>>8196510>>>/b/
>>8196504only to zoomers and leddit.
we got another one cunnybros.....
>>8196510now make the cock black again
>>8196483Cute. Don't go to /e/
>>8196510that isn't hyper anymore
choodles can't stop winning
>>8196470you can just give it a go and see if you like it by ep1, it was pretty unique with a great OST.>>8196469yeah I dunno, maybe I'd watch it as a seasonal or over a year or two, cant remember how bad did it age. iirc s1 had Ai's story and sequel had stories for her "gang".
>>8196433>/h/ is the first board i found in May of 2004 and I haven't left since that day. It all started because of a Naruto thread no less.>I'm 28. You do the math.That's wild. I came here in '08/'09 and I thought that was bad for what old /b/ did to my brain at the time and I'm only 2 years older than you. Porn ruined your brain, gore ruined mine.
>>8196517Sorry but that was >>8196465 anon's tiny dicklet but here's another girl >>8196523I have been repent
>>8196548Based.
>>8196548anal variant pls? black cock is not needed
how can I get more pussy variety? ones that are meant to look more meaty, ones that are meant to look more tucked in and simple and so on
>>8196552>not wanting big meaty vulvasfag
GUYS4thtail can do "stationary restraints" out of the box MUCH better than pony. Sex machine has slight improvements as well but I had to inpaint the sex machine itself a little once genned. You should try adding both to your prompt + sex position.(I also did some touch ups with inpaint in some places too, face, feet and chest)
>>8196548>telling someone that hyper goes to /d/ means they're a dickletsorry for not giving a shit about or wanting to see a fuckton of emphasis being put onto a BIG HUGE DICK and informing you of the correct place to go to find like-minded individuals, faget.
>>8196563I'm loving what anon suggested (using add difference of 4th on another model) and am loving it desunow, tried to do a grid of 4.3k images and my PC crashed IoI (to compare the artists), but every individual image got saved, I guess it's something.
>>8196565its ok dicklet. you can't disappoint your hand.
bros is it gay to want to see incredibly large, meaty dicks in porn?
>>8196541>Porn ruined your brain, gore ruined mine.what makes you think i didnt go on /b/? or old /g/ which was literally guro? realistically you probably had it better than i did because moderation issues were more or less handled by that time, maybe not perfectly but significantly better than the earlier days
>>8196481Well if you could cherrypick what you like and send it to minthy, or at least here and I'll share the link with him, it would probably be better>>8196491Wait, I just asked him and he said that it was massive grabbing and not-requested artists have been picked from existing pool and then balanced/filtered. But since they weren't downloaded completely and explicitly but just "slipped" from other source - it can be a small amount of pictures or just biased part. Artists list contains artists with repeat count that is enough to be represented well, but due to approach and fucked pony TE it may be not good. You could just request him to add artist explicitly, even better if you already have dataset>>8196499Loss scaling, it could be of the reason mentioned above also, yeah it's not hard to generalize char with a style in a properly baked model
>>8196551Just this one
Since people here are shy to prompt nsfw on gooknai gradio, I did it myself (loli warning):https://files.catbox.moe/5asq92.pngThese are some of my nai prompts. Honestly, I got way too loli results with same artists I used on nai, even though none of the prompts included loli.I guess hands are broken more often than with nai, but in general it doesn't feel like a big gap. Styles are very nice though.
post more bbc
>>8196585bbc
>>8196593thanks
>>8196595you are welcome bro
>>8196584>I got way too loli results with same artists I used on nai,i really don't understand why this is the case, wtf analtan done that it is possible to do proper "hebes" on NAI unlike any other model>shidenchanbased
>>8196599That was actually (shiden) and [haguhagu], shiden by himself looked kinda shitty (but I also don't like how he looks on NAI).
>>8196562some have those, others need to have the other typevariety is the spice of life or whatever
>>8196584how would you say it compares to 4th tail/tofu if you tried those?
>>8196607>if you tried thoseBeen posting them for a while:>>8194134>>8194355>>8194852>>8195441>>81957384th is fun of course, but it can't compete at the very least because of the dataset size... gooknai just knows shit, like it just knows most of anything that matters.4th/tofu struggle a lot even with most artists from the wildcard.On the other hand here results are actually so similar to nai gens that it makes me wonder if it's some former employee who stole nai secrets that made it...
>>8196607>>8196610But just so I don't sound like I'm only shitting on 4th/tofu, I think 4th at least has higher success rate with limbs and on gooknai vaginas that aren't cleft of venus look like shit, while on 4th there are some artists I found that draw spread pussy very well. Maybe if dataset is expanded it will be competitive.
>>8196610what's the syntax on gooknai when it comes to artist names with brackets on danbooru? tried to promt shiden and any variation i tried didn't worked also really impressive how niche shit it knows, it can do kanzaki muyu pretty well
>>8196628Isn't the gooknai company korean? They can't even release a NSFW model because of laws over there or am I crazy.
>>8196628I just used shiden \(sashimi no wife\), I assume they use () and [] for emphasis judging by examples anon gave in this thread.
>>8196628niche 400+ danbooru images artist
Anons, how many G's should I subject this emo hag girl to in the centrifuge?
>>8196628just escape with slashes as usual. if that doesn't work then it likely doesn't know it or uses a different tag.>>8196631yes, and reading the guy's posts about it it seems the company doesnt know what the fuck to do either. it seems to be a case of 'we wanted to see if we could but didnt stop to think if we should'. this shit won't last 2 months before it implodes in some way
>>8196640The guy should just leak it and call it a day, what a waste of time and money kek
>>819663910
>>8196639Is that centrifuge from black ops?
>>8196628Anyway I can just give you shiden prompt I used on gooknai:(shiden \(sashimi no wife\),) [haguhagu \(rinjuu circus\),] amazing quality, nsfw, 1girl, armpits, arms up, black school swimsuit, swimsuit aside, pussy, clitoris, pussy juice, blush, bound wrists, brown eyes, brown hair, feet out of frame, half-closed eyes, parted lips, rope, sweat, tan, extremely aesthetic, beautiful,Neg: worst quality, bad quality,(I think that was the whole neg, that's by memory, images I got don't have metadata anymore)
How is this for base model yd? https://litter.catbox.moe/vni02x.png
>>8196640http://onomaai.com/This is the company no?
>>8196461>>8196492catbox please?
>>8196565What's the deal anon, are you satisfied yet?
>>8196632>>8196650ok it works>>8196635fair enough, forgot he has this much,
>>8196646Don't know, I think it's a generic centrifuge used by some airforce department. I just grabbed a good looking image of a centrifuge off google and ran img2img w. controlnet over it. Now - how many G´s anon? 10 has been suggested, do we go lower or higher?
>>8196651BOOBA!Looks nice, anon. But you do know you have to have about 9000 more artists looking just as nice to have a good base model?!
>>8196651Looks kinda similar? I think it is a subtle yd style more than yd itself
>>8196651Doesnt look like him to be honest
BREAKING: Jordach has figured out that gooknai was trained on Cascade.
>>8196661Fuck me the meme writes itself
>>8196563It can do rimjob, tagged as anilingus, out of the box as well. Based model
>>8196661
>>8196661Kek what a cope, it's not cascade.
>>8196653https://files.catbox.moe/kffdyc.png https://files.catbox.moe/2f77xh.png>>81966560.03 it works both ways right?
>>8196661If I had stolen his account and wanted to act like a clown I wouldnt even manage to come up with the shit he type
After making 50 or so images with the gook model, it's way worse at nsfw anatomy than pony (well, autism + loras). I might just be prompting it wrong though.
>>8196426catbox plz
>>8196652yes, though its not toontoon>>8196643it's a mess, i tried getting looking for a straight answer but every other post is contradictory>I just want everyone to open their dataset, open source is helping them, and it wants more sane contribution. currently its being maintained by 'some kind users'... upload and caption together is whole purpose of booru series>We'll open source models gradually>Actually, not likely publicly available weights even if its done...>basically community model improves, in small scale, but gradually. we just found we are just 'maybe 4-5 months ahead' in certain cases. but we also know its 'just a matter of time'. we can provide significant progress, with centralized vision, to benefit everyone, and be famous>so you would understand that I'm claiming to release most reasonable okay one>open sourcing model would be extremely good chance. preparing worst case... starting next week, but I hope best case works>basically new version -> improves -> release previous ones every one month -> profit>maybe my CEO have different thought, but well personally 'sustainable training' stuff is all I want>yeah, its sad but I agree with CEO - I can't release the SOTA model without future plansits a flip-flop every other post. from what it sounds like is that he wants to release it but his ceo obviously doesn't want the sota version released, so he's arguing with him over a staggered release plan. he seems to also have some vision of a community-driven approach where everyone builds datasets together or something. he's the only one who actually trains the model but the whole situation seems like a mess. however if we apply 'the law of nothing ever happens' we can conclude it will be a closed saas release that never touches local
>>8196670>> 0.03 it works both ways right?Dude that's close to zero gravity, she going to float.So 1 vote for 10 G's, 1 vote for 0.03 G's.
>>8196661Lmao
>>8196563catbox please!!
>>8196640i guess this is a stupid idea but couldnt they move the company to a non cucked country and work remotely
>>8196660>>8196657It's a jeetmerge of 4th and bluevoll extracts into tponynai. Was hoping for a better yd than either of them
>>8196670>>8196670much appreciated
>>8196680it has nothing to do with korea, they're just searching for ways to monetize the model
>>8196639Shoot her into a black hole, that's a lot of g's
>>8196675Korea has super weird laws about nsfw, how are they going to even do a saas release? This shit is an amazing meme kek. They'd need to LOBOTOMIZE the model and at that point it would be useless kek
>>8196675
>>8196675Calling this kohaku tier garbage sota is brave
>>8196684A black hole is not a number anon, plus guro isn't allowed on this board baka.>>8196678Here you go anon, same hag is waiting in the centrifuge rn. 10 G's or more?:https://files.catbox.moe/sh4bdb.png
>>8196682sure!https://files.catbox.moe/58v6oi.7z
>>8196690Anon... one in 4 images there is probably kohaku and kohaku looks like dogshit in comparison, kek.
>>8196661>the baker says it's sdxl numerous times>OMFG ITS CASCADEyou should ask him then why reso cant produce the same characters/artists that gooknai can. he just self-owned and doesn't even realize it. if gooknai was actually cascade then jordach just admitted he has ZERO idea what the fuck he is doing judging by how this model is leaps and bounds ahead of him in 'memorization' (something he tried bagging to lodestone that cascade is a master of)
the main reason i want anima to fail is that the model baker has "it/he/she/angel" pronouns and types like a retard
>>8196700I seriously doubt jordach has ever even used pony or any of its offspring like autism, let alone NAI
>>8196691Fine, then 25. Apparently that's how many g's jet fighter pilots experience when they use the ejection seat
localoids spitefagging their own demise once againkekarooooooo!
>>8196696Based faceless male enjoyer
Another SAAS implementation oh man local just cannot get a break huh
>>8196712what do you mean? this is good for local>gooknai releases, succeeds and is competitive with nai>nai is now pressured to get off their ass and work on v4>competition breeds innovation and both models improve as a result>jordach still taking it 'low and slow' because he knows there's no rush and local users are already satisfied with 1b epoch 15fuck yes, everyone wins here. at least saas now has a chance to catch up to the insane progress local continues to make
is it possible to merge artstyle loras? I've tried lowering weights of each lora but the prompt gets fucked up
Sometimes you can just tell based on the quality of things being posted in a thread that your spot on the highlights is completely secured.
it took me just under 3 months but I finally hit 100 patreon supporters just gen-ing sloppa. very proud of myself
>>8196718Mess with lora block weighting
>>8196719>he doesn't know
>>8196613>vaginas that aren't cleft of venus look like shit,I wish more model bakers in general cared about vaginal anatomy or maybe even different pussy types.
>>8196716>saas has a chance to catch up to localThanks for the laughs.Anyway saas is never good.Surely we have some insider ready just in case, you know, someone decides to pull the plug, right?
>>8196723How does one achieve that, how many hours of sloppa gening do you need
>>8196661this isn't real right? no fucking way. fuck.
>>8196723based bbc generator
>>8196288based
>>8196728idk, to be honest I really just do it in the background while I watch shows so its not even really work. the real work is censoring shit for pixiv
SAAS more like SAARS
>>8196729his reasoning is quite simple: he noticed the model 'can produce dark images'. what else can produce dark images? cascade. what can't? pony. and pony uses sdxl. meaning there is zero possible way, not a single chance, absolutely no world where this model uses sdxl. therefore: it's cascade.
Anima probably isn't on NAI's level for the most part, but it does do a pretty nice job with some newer characters and artists that aren't in NAIv3's dataset. So I wouldn't mind paying 25$ a month for Anima too. I'm not poor after all, so 50$ a month on my hobby is almost nothing.
>>8196739this. i'll use anima for the base and nai as the refiner. local trembles before the potential
>>8196738The full 3.6B model is going to be a shitshow isn't
>>8196738How many bakers actually use these models? There are or at least have been plenty of anons itt who admitted to rarely ever genning and mostly just baking loras over and over. Is this what's happening here? I want to see a gallery of images every single of these people generated. I want a list of the models they all have actually used in addition to the time they spent using them. Cause that might just explain everything.
>>8196743>plenty of anons itt who admitted to rarely ever genning and mostly just baking loras over and overthat's an exaggeration. even for the obsessive lora bakers you still need to gen a fair amount just to test that your lora is working correctly
>>8196743it's a theory i have really that no baker really ever uses their shit thoroughly. flux being a prime example with how slopped it all looks. sd3 being another example. as well as a sea of other models that fail the most basic of tasks.with finetuners it's even worse, as they all seem to hate each-other and all think their own models are infinitely superior to their 'competitors'. all these models are being made by promptlets who don't actually use it for more than a few hours testing it out. it's actually disastrous because the aesthetic quality of recent models has fallen through the floor thanks to nobody stopping and saying "hey wait, this looks like slopped shit"i don't really care for lora bakers because you can bake a lora in 2 hours, but it's absolutely a problem for full-scale foundational models and finetunes which take many months to complete. things go wrong in the background and the people responsible don't even have the eye to notice. spine-tinglingly grim when you ruminate on it
>>8196723what's your patreon
foxian sex
>>8196749gotta keep it tight
>>8196672Probably because porn (even drawn) is illegal in Korea, and the law is enforced.
>>8196765I like your fox
regarding korea lawi looked more, here are his quotes:>literally I can't just even let user input whatever prompt they want as company in very strict nation....>china don't prohibit 'existence of porn or nsfw stuff' at least, korea does>that's also the option, selling the model to providers...>in korea, whether it is loli or not does not matter - I don't understand but my company's PO consider bikini is nsfw>actually - allowing anyone generating it in service would take us into lawsuit>but honestly and personally I mistrust korea. I don't believe things in korea... would go well, there would be no single proper model developed in korea for sure with this stanceso they baked this model entirely on booru/nsfw datasets, have zero idea how to properly filter it, and plan to turn it into a saas in the country with the strictest porn production laws. i don't see how this amounts to anything more than disaster. even with perfect filtering there is zero reason to pay for this teaseware when all you'll be able to do is place fully-clothed 1girls in a scene in sdxl quality. what was the whole point of it all if it can't even be used? this is apparently a company with 8+ employees
>>8196782I refuse to believe this is real
>>8196782it never even started
>>8196782>in korea, whether it is loli or not does not matter - I don't understand but my company's PO consider bikini is nsfwlmaooo
>>8196782why why whyJUST FUCKING WHYWHAT WERE THEY THINKING???????????
>>8196696Creampie pls
>>8196142That looks better. Still not feeling confiden on showing the feet?>>8196162More Goblin Slayes X Priestess. It's been a while.
>>8196324>finally some good yaeand that one needs both a creampie and a climax face
Post concord art
>>8196782I have seen dudes get sent to prison for even less. This will get ugly.
>>8196819Someone make a civitai lora request for 1 buzz
Ebara 3 is really fried. Maybe like one out of 10 images came out fine.
>>8196815no, kys
>>8196846i think the author merged it with past version of 4th lyco, but with strengh above 1, so it gets really fried
>>8196819I made one as a joke. Had the unidentifiable they/them fatso go through the tagger, then removed the fat and ugly.https://files.catbox.moe/4ir2z7.pngAI is going to fucking wreck these so-called "artists".
>>8196856Milfy. I like.
>>8196815>Still not feeling confiden on showing the feet?I can barely do decent hands, feet are out of the question>More Goblin Slayes X Priestess. It's been a while.Hmm sure, I should be able to get GS helmet by pure inpaint
>>8196856Please save the thread
>>8196856based based based based
>>8196856what happened to her superior hairstyle...?
Is this finally where the fuck I can post this stuff? I've been killing it out here making AI shit with no outlet
>>8196864Look at the dead mom ponytail. She a wife.
>>8196865AllTheFallen? They like them young there.
>>8196865
>>8196867None of this stuff is younger than what any of you post
>>8196723Are the patrons actual humans? I've been wondering about that.
>>8196723how much does that make you a month, then?
>>8196723how much are you bringing in with your slop?
LMAO all of india waking up now looking to chase his bag good morning saars!
saars gotta pay for saas
>>8196864what this one? both have a time and place, I like them both
>>8196723saar pls link patreon I always pay for good bbc saar
>Indians pretending to not be Indians and accusing each other of being Indians the ThreadYou are all useless shitskins.t the rest of 4chan
>>8196887good morning saar
Tempted to do what ai was really meant for. Baking fujoshi artstyles and genning straight sex.
>>8196873If they're bringing you money, who cares?
>>8196885hot
>>8196885good good! more!
>>8196885Hot (unironically)
has anybody found decent artist mixes on 4th tail or tofu yet?
I think I broke something with 4th tail
>>8196913it looks disney-ish but she looks way hotter now
>>8196913keep em cumming
>>8196913Nice.
>>8196913great
>>8196913Pupils need to be slit
>>8196913Need more cum sluts
>>8196913based!
>>8196912Has an artistic mosaic look.
>>8196913based and uhh... BASED!
4th tail still struggles to do kissing...maybe next model
>>8196927add it as difference on another model of your pref or extract a lyco and use itI didn't got good results with the model itself, but doing the above worked great
>>8196930>>>/e/
>>8196449based taste, that being said most of the images of her fail to draw her so getting a good gen of her is difficult by virtue of really nice hair lol >>8196450the ost was great, some of the stories were good, ai has an oneesan arc that i liked back then, it does fall from grace towards the end though
>>8196931whatever
>>8196937>>>/b/
This isn't too /d/, right? Starting to inpaint and fix things in my gens. Did I make the teeth too bright/standout? Is it noticeable that it was done afterwards?
>>8196940Based based based
>>8196941it isn't /d/ but it's /aco/
>>8196940holy shit
4th tail is good but it looks like the merge with pony, while improving anatomy, diluted the dataset a lot seeing how tofu is able to reproduce artists and characters that 4th couldn't much more consistently. That being said, tofu is still a bit on the weaker side with some artists needing emphasis to reproduce to a good degree. Tofu has a future if it can figure out what NAI did to make anatomy much more consistent and improve the recognition of lower image count characters/artists.
acogarbage, my beloved
>>8196644>>8196670>>8196705I made G-force centrifuge hag into a comic apparently, I'm so silly :)))) (I hope you appreciate the effort!)Part 1 (cont.)
>>8196955Cont.Part 2
>>8196956Part 3 (final)
>>8196957this is one weird fetish
>>8196955>>8196956>>8196957KEEEK amazing
>>8196957is she... getting wet from this? dafuk?
>>8196955>>8196956>>8196957based
>>8196964nice butt hole
>>8196957Based. Also it is really fascinating, world of fetishes that is
Do you guys have a favourite sampler that's better than the common ones? I'm doing a thorough comparison of samplers.I'm pretty sure euler_a will come out on top for anime/cartoons and Pony models. Does anyone disagree?
https://litter.catbox.moe/sml8wg.png
>>8196955>>8196956>>8196957I just coomed to the stratosphere
>>8196971three very sexy cuties, very based unironically
>>8196970I really like DPM++ 2M SGMUniform, and chose it after whole evening of tests. To be fair, tests were dome like 9 months ago. So I know there are newer ones, but I am not really in the mood to retest stuff again
>>8196971based
>>8196970IPNDM_V (32 steps) with Align Your Steps 32
>>8196975moar
https://litter.catbox.moe/p095k5.png
>>8196980
>>8196859>I can barely do decent hands, feet are out of the questionSorry. Meant the boots that were on the previous pics.>Hmm sure, I should be able to get GS helmet by pure inpaintNice.
>>8196957>>8196956>>8196955lol borderline guro
why is it so blurry?
>>8196985VERY nice
>>8196815>Still not feeling confiden on showing the feet?Why are you doing this to him? genning feet is absolute brutal torture no one should be subjected to. Pony is unable to gen good feel in any capacity.
it's tofu/4th tail
I'm not sure if this navel placement qualifies as bad anatomy or if it's within the range of possible contortions of the belly
>>8196999yessssss
>>8196959>>this is one weird fetishAuthor here. Yes it is. Hence why I made a lora specifically to cater to it. No idea why I have this fetish though, that one is still a mystery. Something something female in perilous/adrenaline inducing sitatuion?>>8196960>>KEEEK amazing>>8196963>>based>>8196972>> I just coomed to the stratosphereThanks, glad you all liked it!>>8196969>>Based. Also it is really fascinating, world of fetishes that isYou tell me o-o>>8196989No blood luckily so no guro. But realistically yeah you'd die at longer prolonged exposure to 25 g (but my blue haired hag is stronk). For comparison: astronauts and fighter pilots usually only train for 8/9g's.
Good night bros. remember that Jordach will be saving us with another partial soon
>>8196962>>is she... getting wet from this? dafuk?She's secretly a sadomasochist, but too stubborn to admit it :)
>>8196983based
>>8196944Even though it's a mix of nip artists?
>>8197003gn
>>8197002>No idea whyHow did you even discover you have this fetish in the first place?
>>8197002>Something something female in perilous/adrenaline inducing sitatuion3 words: Roller Coaster Porn
>>8197006don't listen to retards
>mega weird fetish gets praised>i get shitted on and banished to /d/ because i like hyperhow lucky some are
>>8197017>>>/cry/
>mega weird fetish gets praised>i get shitted on and banished to /b/ because i like cunnyi guess only a few can get the kindness of this worlds people
>>8197017effort is praised, don't get confusedtyping huge penis, veiny penis, huge tits is not deserving of praise
>>8194734@threadreaderapp unroll please
uh oh, the anima creator noticed>Uhhhhhhhh I want to dump this result to huggingface to, however why there are so many lewyd prompts and imageswho was the hacker responsible for this???
>>8197018thank you bro
>>8197010>>How did you even discover you have this fetish in the first place?I think origins of my fetish comes from a mix of some cartoon scenes I saw when growing up as a child, (I blame totally spies, I think there are two episodes where g-force/speed related stuff is happening) and there are probably some other examples from other cartoons that I don't remember.>>8197012>>3 words: Roller Coaster PornVery likely that this too contributed to my descent into madness, when I just started to learn to browse the web at a young age. Big booba girl on roller coaster/in fast accelerating car on youtube? My young teenage brain couldn't handle it man.But only recently when AI started to become good enough to draw anime, (back in 2022) was when I regained interest in mentioned fetish, because I could sort of get close to what I wanted by throwing words at my computer... Which also led to a new interest in image generation.
first attemp, opinions?
>>8197028UH OH, SAAS-MELTED BRAIN OF ANIMA CREATOR IS HAVING A MELTIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SORRY NOT SORRY LOCAL!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>8197035uuuooohhhh is that a figma-like style lora? I actually wanted to remake some of my old 1.5 gens that had that style
>>8197035Better than anything itt so far
>>8196999Miqo's eyes are gorgeous
>>8197035based
>>8197039I like them too from time to time
>>8197042How many pictures of Miqo have you made? Is she the one you make the most pics of?
>>8197043>How many pictures of Miqo have you made?a fuck load>Is she the one you make the most pics of?by far, sometimes I like to do random other characters like Hex Maniac or some random elfs or Au'ras (other ffxiv race), but its mainly her
tianling dingdong duohe
>>8196979Align Your Steps seems really good. I was using 30 steps before anyway, so I'll move to 32 for everything from now on.With IPNDM_V vs euler_a, I'm getting ties in my blind voting.
good prompts to control lighting? i want to make pictures with dark rooms/shadows but i always get bright pictures
local moment
>>8197057night, night sky, darkYou can also use a low light lora, I like this onehttps://civitai.com/models/623662/low-light-for-pony-variant
>>8197057stick a pure black box into img2img
>>8197056Good Stuff (TM)
>>8196691thanks
>>8197060 works great, thanks. Of course I tried prompts like shadow, night, etc but for some reason they never worked
>>8197042any good miqo kisses?
how do i use ip-adapter-style_sdxl_amix_v0.3.0? if i use a preprocessor without insightface it asks for insightface, but if i use insightface+clip-H it pitches a key error and none of the shit that illya calls a "preprocessor" from this list actually shows up as a preprocessor:https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge/discussions/178
>>8197101havent done too many, did this just for you tho
>>8197109pls no delete let us have miqote lore
>>8196946is it really worth training tofu on base XL and not pony? at the end of the day it's still shitty XL but at least pony has accelerated the initial nsfw knowledge. i find 4th tail works much better than tofu for prompting despite the artists not working properly. i really don't see the benefit in training on base XL without a massive increase in dataset and likely hardware.
We have loras for literally everything. Why would retards focus on trying to include artists instead of improving anatomy and positions is beyond me. Fucking morons, the lot of them.
Is there any extension that can let me queue up gens but with some prompt changes in between?
>>8197122this. pruning artist tags was the best thing astralite could have done, what's even the point of them when you can just train a lora?
>>8197101unless this is more what you had in mind.either way that's it for me, night boys
>>8197123https://github.com/supersonic13/sd-webui-agent-schedulerThe original dev didn't update it when the Forge changes happened so there is some kinks with this guy's fix in that you need to be generating before you can start queuing things.
>>8197110control net or inpainting?
>>8197128neitherhttps://files.catbox.moe/7eprji.pnghttps://civitai.com/models/485801/kiss-multiple-view-close-up
>>8196092swapping to illya gives me groids like 8 times out of 10, i don't get it
>>8197117It's not just styles but characters that are diluted as well from finetuning pony. While I do like the extra sexual scenarios that are set up from training on e621 (prodding/just the tip being unreasonably difficult to prompt otherwise), I personally don't think it's worth losing styles and characters over when in all likelihood we will be able to controlnet that stuff later, for now I think the most important things are anatomy and style flexibility, until we're able to get an architecture that has inherent understanding of 3d space so that we don't need 500 images of just the tip on danbooru or something lol
>>8197129got any more of those interesting loras?
>>8197127Thanks anon
>>8197139theres a fuck ton on civ, just set your filter to pony and start searching, odds are you will find a lora for anything you want. If not it can be made.
>>8197141I have plenty, I dont want anything specific. Was just asking around cuz you know, interesting loras
>>8196092https://files.catbox.moe/44xxrr.png
>>8197143if you must have a recommendation I enjoy this Ruanyis outfit loras. His previews look incredibly shitty due to the weird model he uses but they work very well with pony-based models. I recommend turning the strength down to 0.7 on all of them when you try to use them. They are pretty customizable too. Here is an example with one.https://civitai.com/models/661549/0872-demon-maid?modelVersionId=740327PS. Avoid his concept loras they are shit.
>>8197110now make her pregnant
>>8197149thx, I already have some ideas for gens
>>8197134man thats such a bullshitstupid overfitted groidlover model>>8197148thanks, its good
>>8197161seems to be an issue with fate characters in particular
>>8197158For you last one is for tonight, I sleep.
I don't know about you guys, but i'll just wait for anima to drop on huggingface in like 2 weeks or so. Fuck this turdwrangling.
>>8197165Anima? Explain, please.
>>8197165its gonna be saas if it comes out at all
>>8197166korean's are retarded.don't worry about it.
Is this a normal cock
>>8197170Depends. How does he compare to other men in a population. If he is average in length, then yes, he is normal.
>>8196093this one took way too long to unfuck and it's still fucked, don't look at the fingersfor some reason fate girls cause nai to shit itself when it comes to hands (and when it comes to shoving in groids even when they're negged)
>>8197173though it's also a day that ends in y so the seed generator is probably shitting itself again
>>8197165yeah i'm sure we'll get the weights buddy
>>8196928what ratio did you use
>>8196985catboxo?
Nursing handjobs are one of those things that's annoying in that sometimes you get it just fine, and sometimes you get an incomprehensible mess
>>8197170catbox pleaz
>>8197164holy based
>>8197179We will. I work there (janitor), you can screencap this message to feel stupid in 2 months.
is dora worth it? or base lora is enough for character?
>>8194719>>8194734>and this is why V7 will fuck and rape all NAI3 holesyou got me here, have a (You)
Question: A character has literally zero, zilch, nada, of fanart. All her appearances were on the original manga. How likely is it that I won't end up with an style lora instead?
>>8197232you're going to end up with a style lora regardless here lolif you can find a koikatsu model you might be able to do something but sounds like you won't be able to
ive been holding in a shit for like 2 days
>>8197249imagine, that's exactly what a huge dick would feel like in your ass
Using comfyui, I feel as if the eyes are coming out wrong with the detailer. Might as well try the eye drawing technique anon shared.
how many fucking pictures of kobeni did this retard cram infucking score_7_up, by ushiyama ame,1girl is close enough to fall into the vector hole literally every picture has hair clips and a panicky face
>>8197256wat?
>>8197257the sweaty crying retard from chainsaw man4th tail 5.0 is so completely poisoned with her that "shiyama" pulls in black pigtails, red hair clips, and a sweaty crying retard facefucking "shiya" is enough on its own sometimes: https://files.catbox.moe/xzndpi.png
>>8197256aren't the tags weighted so that this wouldn't happen?
>>8197263>using pony based model>complain about pony based issues
snake doesn't look too bad on tofu, i'll take it
>>8197268you'd think so but it clearly didn't happen
>>8197251probably but im not inclined to find out
>>8197270is that supposed to be nadeko?
>>8197288that's the one
>>8197288it's not nai
>>8197270>>8197291>snake doesn't look too bad on tofuBro I was thinking what the fuck did you mean by "snake" (dick?) and this ain't fucking Nadeko wtf are you talking about
i want local nai so fucking bad guys it's unreal...
never ever
>>8197295looks more like her without the 'by happoubi jin' at the start but then she starts looking more like a catbox
>>8197296Unironically.I'd literally be content with not having anything weeb-related for years if we got it for local. 16ch vaes and all that flux shit is nice but I can get by with inpainting details if I need to. It's just so fucking annoying. It's not some crazy llm that if released no one could run anyway. It's a fucking sdxl model that even 4gb vram retards can run. Just leak it, someone, please.
just buy a sub, turdworlders
i already sub when I wanna prompt, kurumuz-kunpaypigging for cloudshit is just not the same as having it local
>>8197298catbox general anyway
>>8196364elfbox?
>>8197300Nai is not sdxl, retard. It's Cascade, I thought we already clarified this.
>>8197312Ah yes, true, I'm sorry Jordach-sama. It can do dark colors which means it's cascade...
>>8197306https://litter.catbox.moe/bjs0km.pngbase tofu makes her look sloppa as fuck though
the math don't lie. cascade will soon replace sdxl as the dominant model
>>8197314https://litter.catbox.moe/gcz25t.pngwait nvm i can just add "flat colors" and it'll fix the sloppa look
>>8197315>1 blocked message who/what could be worse than jordachs retardation
>>8197319i checked it, it was a furry bara poster
he's off his meds and it's horrible...
>>8196738How is there literally no one that goes "hey faggot you're wrong, they've said it's sdxl already." Like every time how does no one tell this retard he's being retarded Why is he allowed to sperg unchallenged?
>>8197323everyone who used to give a shit has left already
>>8197321somehow only gets more comical that while Jordach is going on his pseudo rain man cascade rant some furry is just casually posting homo bara gens between each breath
>>8197323That's exactly what happened >>8196664
>>8197328That wasn't an unquestionable smack down of a retarded sperg though, that was like a gentle "umm errr umm maybe it's this haha"
what's the deal with gooknai that it gives always three different but consistent style variations for the same artist mixes? three different seeds, same prompt, style 1 is particularly standing outhttps://litter.catbox.moe/68xqux.png
>>8196664my favorite part of this is that he immediately jumps into attacking zSNR as if this is some commentary on him not using it. someone needs to give him a reality check he's lost the plot
>>8197331Idk but the pink legged one is gonna give me nightmares thanks
>>8197335it's kohaku
>>8197332>>8197329You can always join and call him a retarded sperg, but I doubt that will result in anything apart from him sulking and changing his handle into some childish insult again.
>>8197332his reality check will be after he rapes his poor gpu to death and gets a fried model that not a single soul will usethough would that even matter? he got his money from that one dude
>>8197331It may be 3 different gooknai epochs or something like that. The forth is clearly not gooknai.I don't even know what these 4 outputs are for because I'm not in the cord. I'm assuming it's some sort of aesthetic ranking where you select image that you like the most?
>>8197331the fuck is gooknai
>>8197342NAI knockoff made by gooks. Knows tons of characters and styles. Just read the thread?Interface: >>8196235Outputs (they all come out downscaled): >>8196584
>>8197342https://3fc833dc5b78cf5e37.gradio.live/>>8197341yeah, most likely, but if that's the case with this voting then that's quite retarded as it will give style bias
>>8197346>>8197345this shit won't be open source?if that's the casebuy an ad.
>>8197340>will be after he rapes his poor gpu to death and gets a fried model that not a single soul will useHasn't that already happened...
>>8197338I'm unfortunately not willing to make a discord solely for the cause, but by God does it tempt me to do so
So this is the fabled opossumachine?https://litter.catbox.moe/cnlt1q.png
>>8197351>>>/g/ldg
>>8197351If you read the thread you will learn every single nuance about that too. Spoonfeeding every retard that wants a new qrd every 100 posts is tiresome.
>>8197354Not even close tbdesu.
What method do you guys use to upscale and do high res passes? Do you have a workflow to tile a huge image and prompt the regions individually or do you just automate with a general model into a multiplied resolution of your base and apply inpainting? Also when do you I paint, before or after you've scaled your image for more pixels to work with?
>>8197357If it's not ethical (aka open weight and open source) I will not waste even a moment of my precious time on this trash, kill yourself you fucking shill
>>8197358anon...
>>8197357>saas advertisementkill yourself
>>8197359I used to do tiles upscales, but recently I ditched it in favor of moderate (x1.5 to x2) normal upscale and then inpainting locally the most important parts (face, genitalia, maybe tits) because if they look detailed everything else doesn't really matter that much, the image will look nice.
>>8197357Kill yourself fucking shill, this is freechad general.
>>8197360I don't care though, it's your problem.
>>8197357>>8197366kys shill
>>8197366You fucking should
>>8197366That's cool, buy an ad then faggot.
>>8197366rope shill, buy an ad
rabbutt
Ethical (open source and open weights) pony is all we need!!
What exactly makes you feel inhappy with current state of local? Pony is perfectly capable of doing pretty much any style or fetish you throw at it with a good lora. Why pay for porn?
>>8197378I want a model with 16ch vae, 8b parameters and a large 20m+ dataset consisting of gelbooru, kemono, hitomi and screencaps. I also want a reworked tag system that is much more detailed when it comes to clothes, expressions, poses, anatomy and sex acts.
>>8197382preach
Did anyone try how the lora extract works with characters? I don't find new styles to use that often, so using loras for those is okay. But having thousands of characters immediately available would be convenient. And I can't figure out 4th tail or Tofu, It's been two days an I don't get a single good output.
>>8197346>>8197345thanks for link guys.
>>8197378I want the holodeck from star trek
>>8197390I tested a bunch of fate characters and it definitely adds knowledge of them
>>8196804Nice, box?
>>8197381I have skill issues and my favorites styles don't have a lora
>>8196985Nice multiple views, was it inpainted or txt2img? I have trouble gening multiple views
>>8197381it's the shill astroturfers
>>8197396that was kind of cheated by using an old gen and tossing it through i2i at high denoise to apply another lora over it.catbox for that genhttps://files.catbox.moe/89ersl.pngcatbox for the original that was used as the basehttps://files.catbox.moe/xcove1.pngthe lora thrown overtop is an oekaki lora that's still kind of in progress and I've been working on ironing kinks out of but generally it works best when doing a specific process with it, which you can find here >>8187439 and you can find two variants of that lora in that thread.and you can find the lora used in the original image that was used as a base herehttps://mega.nz/folder/5yFCFQqD#OUBzHD9HV54EUbuZlhhH1Q
>>8197408bro just post catbox stfu
/hdg/ is for imagen, what 20th century paris was for art.
cover your eyes expressiveh sirs! it's astroturfing timetried to prompt some niche charactersit's poorly but surely recognizing knightmare corruptor iblee with 19 pics on danbooru https://litter.catbox.moe/hwzi13.png but it doesn't recognizes i:p masquerena with 170 images https://litter.catbox.moe/vxgyp4.pngis that because of a colon in the character name?also perky breasts makes sharpest ones i've ever seen, without raita ofc https://litter.catbox.moe/k6o3bo.png
>my waifu doesn't have a (good) loraFucking tragic.
it's esl hours alright
>>8197419perky bros, we eating good
>>8197424who is your waifu?
>>8197424Train your own LoRa?
>>8197424get a new wife?
>>8197429That's the plan boss.>>8197431How about I fucking kill you?
>>8197424Many such cases...
>>8197436Instead of killing him why don't you dress him up as your wife?
>>8197424>my favorite artist has a lora>it's made by an indian and isn't working at all
gooknai leak when
>>8197496What does his nationality has to do with lora quality? What the fuck?
>>8197499two weeks
why does every character in this game have at least one asymmetrical feature that the AI fucks up constantly
>>8197382Same, is that really too much to ask?
when can we get a ponyslop lora to use it at -1?look for top images on civit gallery for material
>>8197424I bet THE kaiser made one and you show your gratitude like that?
>>8197516because asymmetrical design are more interesting for our retarded monkey brain
>>8197110I've noticed this LoRA has a strong predisposition to making the male bald
>>8197526that's sadly not how models work
>>8197532why not
>>8196777CHECKED
>>8197570That's his sister, you sick fuck
>>8197570based but it's one of the many gens that reminds me of that japanese meme about every person in ai gens having the same expression
gooknai is down or i got banned?
>>8197574it's pony
>>8197576someone prompted porn so they had to shut it down or be sent to jail for being an accomplice in making obscenity on the dangerous internet
>>8197580good
Did anyone have good results merging the 4th tail extract into another model? I tried it with tponynai a couple times but it seems fried
>>8197584why would you even care about tponynai in the first place
>>8197576They're releasing weights in 30 minutes according to their discord announcement so they've turned off web interface.
>>8197574it's called overcooked ponyslop but we have to cope with it for now
>>8197586cause I like the base style and how it handles some of my favorite loras? But I'm open to mixing it into other shitmixes
>>8197580no joke, i was genning nudity couple hours and after few paizuris can't access the site anymore, so idk if i could get ban for this
does BREAK work in comfyui?
>>8197589no i mean nai gens also have the same problem sometimes but to a lesser degree because it's better at separating characters. it's just weird to see the guy penetrating the girl having the same facial expression as the girl getting penetrated
>>8197516I feel like nai and pony always fuck up the headshape and size once you start prompting for features that can't be fully seen from a frontal perspective
>>8197570BASEDnow brush her teeth
>>8197525Just make one yourself?
>>8197584merging checkpoints, and especially pony based ones are a fruitless effort because how much of a mess pony is under the hood>>8197588which discord was this posted to>>8197593no, you need to use Conditioning (Concat) or (Combine) nodes or some custom text box node that includes BREAK functionality
Anima weights in 15 minutes! Everybody get hype!!!
>>8197594That meme was probably from 1.5 days anyway, back then it was actually true. Prompt hair color/eye color/emotion/whatever and it gets assigned to the whole picture and everyone in it>i mean nai gens also have the same problem sometimes but to a lesser degree because it's better at separating charactersreally doesn't feel like it, I think expressions is just one of nai's stronger points. I can usually just throw several expressions in prompt and it will assign them to characters in a way that makes sense (usually). And even if I don't prompt expressions it's fine.I don't think they have same expression on that gen though, don't really like Karen's expression there but that's a different issue
>>8197606>which discord was this posted toBro please don't get your hopes up for obvious shitposting, it hurts to see:(
>>8197615I just want a good local model, why do the shitposters have to hurt me so
>>8197619Use autismmix with a lora
>>8197619it's safe to assume that we won't get anything better than pony for the rest of this year desu
>>8197622loras are a bandaid and don't compare to inherent knowledge of styles>>8197624probably
It was such an obvious astroturfing from gooknai team that they had to immediately shut it down.At least that's what schizos believe.
>>8197331it's a randomized model shootout, with different epochs of his model mixed with a couple random local models (kohaku). >>8197576it restarts on a new link every day or so. he didnt restart it yet, he's adding more models like tofu
>>8197625>loras are a bandaid and don't compare to inherent knowledge of stylesinherent styles are garbage unless the model has a carefully curated dataset for every artist and is perfectly trained. they are better for style mixing than loras but vastly inferior at actual replication
>>8197630yeah and loras interfere too much with the outputI'd take slightly weaker styles for the convenience of having not to manually load loras that alters the gen too much anyway
>>8197629What's the point of adding these models, they are obviously identifiable because of their lack of knowledge. You get 3 results with the character and style you asked for and 1 completely irrelevant result, am I supposed to stay unbiased when picking? Kek.
penis_pov is not a tag, but it should be.
>>8197630This. Autismmix with a carefully crafted lora is absolutely amazing for style replication. Some basically looks like real art, that's the power of lora with carefully curated and skillfully baked dataset. Tagged styles and characters do nothing but fry the TE.
>>8197635good for you, but i want to be able to prompt for artists that actually look like they should
>>8197637crotch_pov is a tag
>>8197639Bro anons heard you. Thing is, nobody who wants base model knowledge cares about your particular kink. It's not for you, fine, you should probably just keep training and using your perfect pony loras, why do you even participate in discussions of the models not relevant to your tastes?
>>8197642because what you want is shit that fries the text encoder, retardnothing beats a good lora
>>8197642being able to prompt for accurate artists is a particular kink? that's news to me
>>8197639which no pony lora ever does, but carry on civitsaar
>>8197649i only use loras i train myself thoughbeit
>>8197649Skill issue. With a local model, you can do everything. If your pony LoRA looks bad, you need to bake better. Mmkay?
>>8197619Just use Arti, brohttps://files.catbox.moe/n1qqtx.png
most fried, currycoded ponylora on civit still looks more like ishikei than whatever nai produces
oh it was seething freetards, now it makes senselove to see them sabotage their own models out of spite, kek!
>>8197661why is it so smeary
promptable artists and characters ought to be removed from all future modelsonly lazy nobake gooners want this shit that would never reach the quality of a good lora anyway
>>8197646Indeed it is. I guarantee it's an absolute minority who would want perfect artist replication at the cost of overwriting finetuned model knowledge, raping and weaking every single concept and other knowledge in the process.With a finetune you lower the lr for last epochs to smooth things out. Then you slap your stupid fucking lora on top trained with 10x that lr with lower number of parameters too and you just say fuck you I don't need these intricacies I just want my one and only PERFECT ARTIST. It's a stupid kink, nothing more.
>>8197668good morning neggles
naiggers forever seething about loras. On local you can have base model artist tags AND loras, imagine that!
>>8197673You can, but we don't have that. If local had both these things (and innate characters too) and not just loras, nobody would use saas in the first place.
>>8197668skill issue. I never encountered a concept that a model couldn't do anymore after slapping a good style lora on top
>>8197673>On local you can have base model artist tags AND loras, imagine that!Well, seems like the model bakers can't.
Is there a good way to fix my PoV cowgirl position shots making the dude an amputee
>On local you can have base model artist tagsbut can you really, localkeks??? ahahaha how is it that only quality subscription services like gooknai can figure this shit out?? local bakers have such a skill issues its funny to watch them, like little ants
bait used to be believable
bait has transcended into reality. it's not even a lie anymore
>>8197665Because anytest controlnet does not work properly with Arti. Smeary, they say... It's art!https://files.catbox.moe/jqjck5.png
>>8197681Since you are obviously not going to show examples of your perfect loras, we'll just have to agree to disagree. And again, if it's so perfect, pony is literally all you need. Keep using it, let anons with "skill issue" wait for their models, what is it to you, you already have it all?
>>8197683dont prompt pov
i'll never understand why so many retards (including astralite) seethe this much about loras when they're just tools that you might or might not use depending on your particular purpose at the time. you might as well complain about how hammers are too destructive or something
>>8197694Probably the oekaki lora guy.
>>8197704I think you misunderstand. Nobody complains that loras exist, the complains are that they are a must for absolutely everything on local.
>>8197704Nobody is complaining about the existence of the loras. It's just a pushback against retards who treat them like literally second coming of christ, best thing since sliced bread while they are actually very flawed.
>>8197681that's foreshortening on gooknai, try it on pony with a lora https://litter.catbox.moe/e1twvl.png
>>8197661Arti is unironic schizophrenic Euge needs to get his shit together
>>8197711are hammers "actually very flawed"? please give me a yes/no answer
People who complain about artist tags really need to grow up. Seriously, the infinite potential of the latent space and all you can think of doing is copying art styles? Grow some creativity! I think with AI we're seeing a shift towards a perfect collective style, something that represents what every human wants but doesn't yet realize. AI is the sum of all humanity's knowledge, and the result it arrives at represents the culmination of humanity's interests. Rather than try to fight progress, we should let AI take its course, let it learn, play, explore. Let the model dance around the latent space while training, learning all the nuances and subtleties of human expression. We've already come so far with amazing improvements, why hold it back with archaic and selfish ideas?
Let me tell you something, folks. Astralite, total failure. He’s gonna fail, no question, on baking Auraflow. He’s a jeet, alright? Got lucky with Pony, everyone knows it, but hasn’t even tried the next bake. Can you believe that? And then you’ve got Kurumuz, folks, who’s gonna come in with V4 and absolutely finish him off. It’s over. It’s sad, really sad, but that’s what happens when you can’t deliver. Total disaster.
>>8197715if you try to use a hammer for a job it wasn't made for one could argue it's flawed, yesit wouldn't be a good argument, but then again no one should be forced to use a hammer for something other than hammering nails
>>8197715might as well go with a food analogy retard
>>8197713join the discord and help him. he's very receptive to new ideas. also his server rules are very cute
>>8197722my bad, i should have known that it's too difficult for "people" who can't understand counterfactuals
>>8197724>https://litter.catbox.moe/e1twvl.pngActually though, he really does listen to all feedback and isn't a maniac like jordach. https://discord.gg/fHwuKTSB
>>8197712what's your point here? pony can't do foreshortening to begin with, style loras won't change anything about that.
some people don't want to gen pictures. they just want to bake loras, unironicallyif the model knew everything possible and had nothing to bake for it, they wouldn't be interested in this modelplease understand that they don't care about pictures and move on
only ever made pony character loras so i decided to try some stylesi've spent 3 days and 30+ gpu hours and none of them are anything better than mediocrei want to die
>>8197728Since it's brought up, is the tag loss thing still in neurosis? I couldn't find anything from quick glance. If somebody can point to it, it would be helpful.
They call him JORDACH, folks. Can you believe that? What has he delivered? Nothing! Claims that 1B is all you need—seriously? It’s a joke, folks, a total joke. And now they’re pushing this thing called "Spectra One", give me a break!
>>8197716True
>>8197730my point is that the common concepts on pony are so blunted, that there is nothing to lose pony doesn't understand such hard to process and uncommon concepts like straight-on
https://litter.catbox.moe/aqidq8.png
This is a hag only general sirs, please do not redeem those images.
>>8197756gigabased
>>8197743pony understands all the concepts it was trained with. It doesn't understand gelbooru or e621 tags, that's a common misconception. It was probably entirely trained on rule34 which sadly has the worst art concept tagging of all the boorus.
more cute and funny blacked
>>8194472Can you elaborate on the vectorscope settings? I know people use it for colors
Gimme some prompts to try
>>8197641
>>8197766pov_crotch instead
>>8197779That looks just like regular pov. At least on danbooru.
>>8197788FUUUUUUUUCCCKKKK
>>8197791It's supposed to be wider-angle so you see more oft he pov person's crotch. I don't know why that anon brought it up.
tourist hereanything come of flux yet?
>>8197799style loras
>>8197712https://litter.catbox.moe/a9j8ow.png?
>>81977992 more weeks sir
>>8197806It's pony
hello where is anima weights thank you
>>81978112 more minutes
>>8197811sent ;)
can pc for the use technical support use be ai use ? thank you good morning
>>8197817sir
>>8197806Holy (ai-generated:2.5) abomination. It's "by artist", not just "artist" on 4th btw, but I don't think it's going to make your reweik merge look any better......
>>8197743It's the same for loras on non pony sdxl models or flux. A well trained lora won't overwrite a concept the base model already knows
>>8197824Wasn't it just a test of foreshortening?
>>8197724what are the server rules? I don't have discord>>8197733for a change try doing a single style on arti or tofu and see how that goes
>>8197830Idk what you particularly was testing as that anon was asking about pony with a lora, not 4th? And it's kinda pointless to have some particular concept working if image looks like shit anyway.
>>8197830this. also all my 4th tail merges so far suck, wonder what the guy that praised it merged it with
>>81978374th itself seems to suck. I can't get a non-deformed face in base gens, always needs hiresfix or adetailer.
>>8197837If you're on local why put in the effort if your gens are gonna look the same as everyone else's
>>8197806that's my foreshortening from yesterday https://litter.catbox.moe/ahte6i.pngeither it loses it because of too much tags or style lora, it doesn't really matter, also it can't do face focusgooknai with basically same tags apart from girl https://litter.catbox.moe/s03oge.png
bros the gen I posted here got scrapped to rule34, how do I claim royalties?
>>8197849We get scrapped all the time bud>https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=drawfag+&z=5
>>8197849Create a Rule34 support ticket
>>8197858>https://aibooru.online/posts?tags=drawfag+&z=5holy kek
>>8197858It can't be... Cathag and Miqute aren't protected?
>>8196865this belongs in the >>>/aco/sdg thread since it isn't anime/h/ is anime only
>>8197858what is his end gamewhere is my money
>>8197844Fuck, I just noticed mine there as well. Do we append each of our prompt with (fuck drawfag:0.001) from now on? Or are we chill? Or do we just become a text thread from now on and resort to nogen?
Quality and resolution upscale still not possible video files?Like i2i that just remove video compression artifacts and adds missing details and sharpens blurry shit.
>>8197858>all the timeNot really nowadays, most of the gens are old. Was suprised to see couple of mine considering I barely even post now
>>8197871Your mom belongs to /d/
>>8197858wow this drawfag guy is such an asshole he's taking every single image from here
>>8197874Not that great but you could try this >https://github.com/AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUII used it and produced some okay results trying to upscale some old tiny resolution videos
>([chewing gum:cum:0.4]:1.2)Not sure how well it's working but it's doing something. Seeing if I can manage a cum bubble kind of thing.
>>8197858that's fucked up. yes, I steal artist styles that took years of work to that person to get to that point all the time, I also steal everyone's metadata and re-sell it on patreon-kofi-twitter DMs, but someone stealing my gen and posting it somewhere else without permission is NOT ok
>>8197873>1 post(s) on this page were removed due to a takedown request
>>8197889wonder if there are people like this hereim too lazy to post anywhere apart from chans and getting my stuff reposted felt nice
they call me the baker
>>8197317Can you gen more Nadeko?
>>8197889FOUND THE STEALER
>>8197858>can't find any of minebros... I failed
>>8197874With upscalers specifically made for that task, not with diffusion models. With diffusion you'd just get inconsistent details reproduced for each frame and it will be flickering. Maybe in some distant future.As for upscalers, they aren't better than the GAN/DAT upscalers you have for images, so even if they can improve visibility a little bit, usually you can see their fingerprint all over, and it's just distracting and ugly.
>>8197894They call me Anonymous
>>8197858This is an actual human being btw, this isn't a bot. What's his purpose?
>>8197728>>8197736It was deleted from neurosis, but thanks to anon I have it backed up. Since I also tried to use it, I also have a working implementation for kohya but I'm not home rn.
>>8197889>[Post a Reply]>[Return] [Catalog] [Top]>1524 / 248 / 8>[UIt actually is pretty fucked up what's happening to artists desu. I used to have a different opinion, but "ai bros" are so insufferable and the amount of slop so overwhelming you cant help but do a 180.
>>8197906Just join the cord and share it with Euge. Or dump it here and I'll send it if cord is against your morals, but Euge could probably use your help more than mine...
>>8197891How do you even request this, I can't even login or make a account, all I get is this. Is this just me?
>>8197887>how it feels to chew 5cum
>>8197896nta but I'll post some old naikek snek genshttps://files.catbox.moe/sv5fdv.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/5vs2s2.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fg97b5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dyg1r3.png
>>8197846Here's one with a lora on tponyhttps://litter.catbox.moe/qc0l65.pngAt most you'll get some generalization issues on the lora style side of things, but I can't see it destroying concepts
>>8197834>what are the server rules? I don't have discordRules Be harmony and friendly. Avoid arguments and personal attacks. No nsfw, politics, racism.
>almost a year in>still nothing even close to NAI 3>meanwhile they got a new model comingThe absolute state of local
how many steps for 4th tail are you guys using
>>8197916thanks, i will revisit it later
>>8197924>meanwhile they got a new model comingthe meltdown will be biblical if it comes out without artist tags
>>8197924 >meanwhile they got a new model comingthe meltdown will be biblical if it comes out with artist tags
>>8197924>meanwhile they got a new model comingthe meltdown will be biblical if it comes out with artist tags
diabolical
If nai3 is similar to that squidgame model, then I don't see myself using it, even as a local model.
>>8197914Damn, these are pretty nice. Got any more?
weirdest bait I have seen in a long time
>>8197947gooknai is nice for 1girling, but just not a good /h/ model. Anatomy and hands are awful, prompt adherence leaves much to be desired and it's far too random unless you write a 200 token prompt.
>>8197948I do actually, but most of them are kinda sloppawill upload catbox album a bit later
>>8197965There's also /c/ thread.
>everyone says Forge Couple does what Regional prompter does but better. >no video guides or anything. Playing around with it myself yields worse resultsI don't understand. Are people who sing it's praises literally just doing 2 individuals standing next to each other and not touching at all? Because beyond that I'm not seeing how this is better than regional prompter.
Is it more efficient to prompt for multiple panels first or to get the main pose and then inpaint an additional smaller panel if you want it in the negative space?
>>8197906Share it with euge buddy, it's up to you
>>8197969There's also /kys/ thread
>>8197969I know.
someone should do a funny and leak it again
pony is better than naiv3 tbqh
>>8197973it isn't better than regional prompter, you got baited
>>8197948https://catbox.moe/c/pzh06j
>>8197987this
new link to gooknai doko?
>>8197995extremely based
>>8197987this but unironically
Is there a good guide to understand control net/regional prompting from a beginner's perspective who has only done basic txt2img and img2gimg?
>>8197995based
>>8197914Fuck Nadeko with a big booty in bloomers is so hot.
>>8198004just buy a nai sub. all local extension are copium until they get added to nai under a different name.
>>8197987this but unironically but unironically
>>8197909"Original" file from neurosis: https://files.catbox.moe/s6wkwd.7zMy "working" one: https://files.catbox.moe/o1n9is.pyTo use it, he'd need to initialize TagFrequencyHook, call .pre_hook at the start of each step and then apply .batch_hook to the loss.Just tell him that this implementation was partially taken from NAI leak and he'd need to rewrite it if he doesn't want to inflict kurumuz' wrath onto himself.Just in case he doesn't know, tell him about this https://civitai.com/models/615476/artiwaifutistic and this https://civitai.com/models/684052 and that the noise his model has and some anatomy issues are 100% caused by a flawed (lognorm) timestep sampling schedule which is not really applicable to a DDPM noise scheduler. If he does want to use lognorm, he'd need to retrain the model using modern flow matching schedule which is this https://huggingface.co/docs/diffusers/api/schedulers/flow_match_euler_discrete (but I failed to get it working on my first try likely because I really suck at math and don't actually understand any of this shit, and I don't have time to work on this anymore because of uni)
>>8198022But I had breakfast?
I need lettering help. It's not 100% anime, but believe it or not, you guys are the least retarded in the entire AI smut panoramahttps://files.catbox.moe/tbv1wp.jpgDoes the "earlier" bubble look off? How do I make it look more natural? Should I just drop the idea?
The human brain is excellent at pattern recognition. You can see this in action when watching 2 local gens made by different people. Being local gens, they look exactly the same, but thanks to the brain's incredible ability to discern the most minute of changes, you can BARELY feel the difference between the 2. Truly remarkable.
>>8198004There are lots on youtube. Regional prompter is pretty easy. Basically enable common prompt so that the first line is the common prompt that will apply to all regions. Then each line seperated by the word BREAK should correspond to a single region so if you have 2 regions it will look like this:>Score_9_up, Score_8_up, (etc), man and woman having sex, bedroom, BREAK (the common prompt)>1girl, fucked, large breasts, BREAK (region 0)>1boy, huge penis, gigantic testicles (region 1)Basically something like this will be the average prompt for 2 regions. The region size and number is a little trickier and that's harder to explain. 1,1 will equal two regions of the same size. 1,1,1;1,1 will mean the first region will be split in two and the second will be full. Play around with the numbers and it will make more sense.>>8198018kys shill
thoughts?
>>8198032pony has better anatomy
>>8198032I mean, they're both very recognizable, but also both equally melted in the details
>>8198004For pony and related models, first download either this model:CN-anytest_v4-marged_pn_dim256.safetensorsFrom:https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora/tree/main/test_controlnet2Or this model:diffusion_pytorch_model.safetensorsFrom:https://huggingface.co/brad-twinkl/controlnet-union-sdxl-1.0-promax/tree/mainThe promax controlnet model is stronger in general, however if you want more wiggle room go with anytest one, but I prefer the promax one since it's more precise. Might need a beefy gpu though.Once you downloaded the controlnet model, put the model in the controlnet folder under models in your webui install. Once in webui itself, go own to the controlnet tab, enable and select the model you downloaded. DO NOT select ANY preprocessor or controlnet mode, let it all stay at default.Then go down further and change "Control Mode" from balanced to "my prompt is more important".Lastly, change the strength of the "control weight" to something like 0.4 is using promax/union model, or leave it at 1 if using anytest. Basically higher weight means the AI will follow your controlnet image more, lower weight means more wiggle room for the AI to be creative. Remember to actually give it an image for the controlnet to use.Let me know if something doesn't make sense.
>>8198031>kys shillfuck off localoid, if nai had all the money and compute you monkeys waste on endlessly rebaking the same model, we'd have naiv5 already.
>>8198027Are those squeans above her head? Because they kind of look like they are instead trying to go into a thought bubble which is one of the reasons why it feels disjointed like she is actually thinking that but the AI just screwed it up
>>8198032there is more aco-like content in the pony dataset than aesthetic anime, nai3 is the opposite, so all the pony faces have a little aco sprayed in their structurealso, i've noticed most pony loras found on civit can fry the overall colors, making some parts grey-ish, i think this may be due to overtraining, i never went above 1k steps when doing styles and it doesn't have those artifacts. civitai's built-in trainer is scuffed
>>8198031How does this work in the case of object permanence though? Like if I have a prompt like this where the 1boy and 1girl are in a position where the male is partially obscured by the woman but the regional prompting is only saying the man belongs in "Section: Left" how does it know to continue the male's body behind the woman?
>>8198032You're not escaping the shitty pony shading no matter how hard you train
>>8198050let me guess, you are hagfag?
>>8198046she's not thinking it, it's a window of what led to the situation. Those are the "drunk anime character bubbles"https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10665399&tags=drunk
>>8197914>>8197995man at least some of those gens wouldnt get you banned, could post them to thread instead of actually turning this into catbox general
>>8198058>Those are the "drunk anime character bubbles"Yeah the tag is called squeanshttps://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/squeans?z=2
>>8198043doesn't matter since nai will soon leak like your tiny pecker
>>8198072thanks, had no idea
>>8198050It is not super strict about the region assignment. So parts of the male in section 1 like his arms or legs will often appear in section 0 if they're having sex or interacting somehow but it helps to add a few tags of the other character in the other region just so that there isn't an out of place limb, like in pic related that would have made the kobolds hands human hands if I didn't specify that megumin is being fucked by a kobold.Your example pic will be basically impossible or extremely tricky because regional prompter doesn't do diagonal regions
Oh nonononono a melty ...
>>8198085So standing leg lift will be impossible, rip
>>8198043if they had 100% of the market share why would they ever release a new model? kys
>>8198093>>8198082Nai aren't greedy like astrakike. They are true weebs with a vision and will channel all their funds into making a better model. They even take pity on localkeks and occasionally throw them a bone.
>>8198085>because regional prompter doesn't do diagonal regionsI thought it could do that with the hand drawn regions?
imagine posting gens instead of shitposting about models for 10 months straight
>>8198091not at all, just do 1,1 columns with a prompt like this one>score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, hidden sex, vaginal penetration, vaginal, leg_lift, big penis, big testicles, BREAK>megumin fucked, standing BREAK>1boy, fucking a girl, fat man, larger male, head out of frame, offscreen malesorry about the ugly watermark. Hasty gen for example purposes.
>>8198093Why would Nvidia ever make new gpus if they practically own the entire gpu market shareRetard
>>8198083Overall I really like the idea but I'm not sure if it would make more sense to just make two separate panels. I think in general trying to mesh chibi style characters into certain frames is tricky outside of just doing some cute chibi reaction face versions of characters in the same image.
>>8198105If true then I have never used this feature and I don't know how it works.
Is everything looking handrawn/painted just a confetti thing or is there some way I can make it less apparent without the need of super strong lora
>>8198117>local>handdrawnthanks for the laugh
>>8198106I'm cooking a gen but I don't like how it is going
>>8198117>looking handrawn/painted>confettipost a gen please
I think that one might be bait...
>>8198129Can you please explain why does everyone here calling posts "bait"? What's the meaning in 4chan context?
>>8198109Any advice for making spooning work? (Lying on side)
>>8198109style lora?
>>8198138difficult, perhaps need a lora. Based on testing it really wants to default to the dude lift her leg or doing some form of leg lift so I put those relevant tags in negatives. I didn't use regional prompter for that, I don't think it will help. since there would be too much region overlap.>>8198139none, using hassakuXLHentai checkpoint. Downloaded it just to try it out, I can't swear by it yet.
>>8198159>HassakuHow about you hassakill yourself
Style LoRAs clearly don't work with 4th tail but has anyone tried concept or chara loras with any degree of success
>>8198168If there is something wrong with this checkpoint then I am woefully ignorant of it.
>>8198170yeah my character loras work fine with it
>>8198170ponyshart lora dont work on it, but i've baked my own on 4th and they look much better than they did on pony
Both 4th tail and Tofu have this strong default AOM2 look that seeps through my gens no matter what I do. Are they trained on a bunch of synthetic data or what?
>>8198171NTA, looks like AI which automatically makes it a sloppa checkpoint (even if that describes pretty much all of them).
>>8198180True but like 99% of my gens are stuff I don't even share.
>>8198171If you like, good for you bro. But it's basically what others have said, looks like the basic AI sloppa we see everywhere, again, if you like it, good, but you could try searching for some style loras out there
>>8198183still better than base autism desu
>>8198183Like I said, I'm just trying it out. I normally don't use 2d animu centered checkpoints in the first place.
>>8198180It looks like AI bud. It is AI.
>>8198180There's no checkpoint for pony that isn't gonna look like AI blud
>>8198179Yes, unironically. Also, there's the noise offset bullshit.
>>8198179It's the opposite for me sometimes. Looks TOO hand drawn. For example this cum looks like it was drawn in paint...
>>8198159Everything is gonna have advantages and disadvantages. Hassaku for example has better colors than most other pony checkpoints but it is almost entirely incapable of creating low light scenes.
>>8198196>it is almost entirely incapable of creating low light scenes.That's virtually all pony checkpoints though.
>>8198196>but it is almost entirely incapable of creating low light scenes.that's just pony in general
Shit, I was picking the most disgusted face from a couple of gens and accidentally posted from a batch of small breast gens instead of medium. RIP.
>>8198195catbox pls i love paint
>>8198198>>8198199Here is the same gen on regular pony, hassaku is particularly bad at it.
>>8198202What tags did you use to not have her lit up by some light source?
>>8198204That moon looks like a huuuge light source to me though.
>>8198170My girl works fine, except 4th's facial expressions are too strong to the point they look ooc on her
only flux is capable of different styles. 4ch vae saars have to cope and seethe
>>8198195Yeah that cum looks like its existing in a different perspective its so flatly white. Too bad ai doesn't actually understand adjective+noun so you can tweak the style of that without messing with the rest.
>>8198201https://files.catbox.moe/9efxh9.pngWhen upscaling I changed artists to "by yamamoto souichirou, by ciloranko, "
So I managed to make a lora that works horribly at normal weight (basically pink images only), but if I set the weight down to 0.1 it functions normally. Is there a tool or way to "rescale" the weight of a lora,so that weight 1 becomes 0.1 instead?
flux is capable of so much, just look at the amazing anime art! this sure wasnt a complete waste of parameters that went towards nothing but synthetic scraped ideogram data. finetunes coming soon!
>>8198220anime enough for /hdg/ that's for sure
>>8198220how is the 17th epoch of 1B going, jordach?
>>8198105nta but it works on comfy at leastYou can even do tiny regions to say place the penis in a certain spot in handjob gens, place a sun low on the horizon, etc.
>>8198209>4ch vae saars have to cope and seetheThis is how cascade can still win
>>8198220good morning jordach sir
>>8198225W i i s b?
New to this
>>8198226jordack would also think that it is anime
>>8198027coomwizard?
>>8198237yes?
we do a little exchanging cash for goods and serviceshttps://files.catbox.moe/ndhkkz.jpg
>>8198230Hello newfriend, head over to https://novelai.net/register now and use code /hdg/ for 15% off your subscription. Trust in NAI on your journey towards amazing AI art.
>>8198241yooo the dedication!That top down pov shot is fire
>>8198241el basado
>>8198241I'd rather have the double beers office girl
>>8198230slowly, but steady, deviate from the AI sloppa look. Already on a great start.
>cascade has a 16ch vae, looks like fried melted garbage incapable of rendering fine detail>sdxl has a 4ch vae, looks fine why isnt he following his own advice? less is more. 1b is already superior to 3.6b. 4ch vae should therefore be superior to 16ch. actually, we can probably get a lot more creative and artistic with 1ch.
>>8198241holy based effort poster
>>8198241the real effort poster
>>8198247cascade has a 16ch vae in name only.
>>8198241Did you just do a penis grab and then inpaint a tie on it for the left pov image? Tie grab shit never works for me.
>gen on local >feel nothing>gen on nai>my agp acts upExplain this
>>8198255Power of anime.
>>8198247Cascade can be fine, mostly its just resonance bake that is fucked up. Stotev2 has a bad base style but otherwise looks less fried and lora baked on that vs reso look better.https://civitai.com/models/494561Also other finetunes have been okay so I think it's just a jordach issue.
>>8198255https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Graphics_Port???
this absolute state of local is so funny, so hilarious yet so sad, lugubrious, hopeless, aura of incompetencelocal 4-5 months ago only had pony and some mixes, now this has changed, there's so many new flavors apart from pony now, even though these finetunes sometimes are related to pony but still its something newbut its all so... incompetent. no matter how hard local tries, they cannot unironically outperform pony or autism in every single way, let alone reaching nai levels. maybe with some of these new finetunes and models you can barely make your gens look like nai, but only that. making gens to look like nai is not enough to achieve what nai can offer with their inpaint model, smea dy, and more. let alone these finetunes are at best 2.5m with a dataset that is unpruned, poorly tagged, and no synthetic tags like poor quality or best quality.it gets even worse when you notice no one has even been able to outperform a finetune made by a horsefucker that actually admitted himself that his bake was a yolo attempt and that he got real lucky with results. all these bakers just seems to be too incompetent to surpass what a brony pedophile idiot with same finetune knowledge as a jeet did with some a100s and an ungodly amount of luck.future is not looking bright for local, specially when things and people rivalize instead of teaming up with eachothermuh neggles, euge, minthybasis, jordach, chinks, etc etcjust imagine for a moment if all these local bakers one day decided to get their shit together and bake a real huge local model with a synthetic dataset with proper tagging instead of throwing shit at eachother or ignoring each other at bestbut as always, nothing ever happenslocal is so all spread out on the floor that it actually makes sense why no one has ever done a good finetune, except maybe and apparently, the anima team (a TEAM, not a single nothingburger dude) with their 20m finetune, but that remains to be seen since it could be just another saas
Medium breasts gen to fix my previous mistake...>>8198247Because of compression and stage B. What VAE receives is already unsalvageable.>>8198241Nice.
>>8197909Maybe he would also be interested in the ostris' 16ch VAE (with adapters) which is much better than SDXL's own VAE https://huggingface.co/ostris/vae-kl-f8-d16 but it requires some model patching.
Time to take a small break from cats.
>>8198263Did you completely give up on cascade
>>8198263poor fern and her 4 navels
Without a good graphics card, I was stuck waiting ages for AI Rogueliteto generate any pictures at all. NovelAI's images are spectacular and fast, and having Krake power my dungeon crawling is awesome!
>>8198240wasn't you in some kind of a difficult situation before because of a gooning? lmao
I really love the UI and general sense of authorial freedom that comes with Novel AI - the ability to fiddle with systems as much or as little as I please, combined with decent presets for quicker "jump in and go" play makes it worth paying for just for that.
>>8198270yup, still struggle with it but it's better now, I'm not officially back yet, I was just asking for lettering feedback. I'm focusing on mostly western style dark skinned girls now so I'm not sure people would even like it if I posted it here in the first place.I'm honestly scared of whatever new generation they'll release, like flux.1 finetuned with anime or something, imagine the effect it will have on me.
>>8198266I'll take what it can give, I give a chance to every new model (even a downsized for ants, shill version of gooknai). 3.6b is taking it's sweet time though, so I can't guarantee I won't die before it arrives.>>8198268Shit, I got sloppy...
>>8194302nice background, can you share a box?
>>8198285looks pony but it's nai
>>8198272careful, I might sneeze a little
>>8198285it looks like some 4th tail tofu derivative
>ctrl+f pony>158 results>ctrl+f nai>170 resultsit's neck and neck but he's pulling ahead!
>ctrl+f miqote>4>ctrl+f cathag>7it's neck and neck but he's pulling ahead!
Any hope for AMDtards yet?
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no point in ironically shilling nai when every pony gen posted itt is already the best possible advertisement
>>8198279> just asking for lettering feedbacklettering seems fine to me, dunno, maybe take some inspiration from here >>8198241> I'm focusing on mostly western style dark skinned girls now so I'm not sure people would even like it if I posted it here in the first place.I personally don't mind, it's gonna be better than endless arguing about nothing anyway> I'm honestly scared of whatever new generation they'll release, like flux.1 finetuned with anime or something, imagine the effect it will have on me.yeah, if flux hentai tune will ever happen guess you are done
>>8198268Nobody will care but I fixed her.https://files.catbox.moe/ip6gmz.png
tofu after using loli in the negs while using loli artist https://litter.catbox.moe/6gt99f.pngvery flexible model
>>8198314naiggers btfo
>>8198314Based tofu implementing safeguards against making Kuro a fat ass hag!That's the REAL safeguards we need.
i thought this about the previous 4th tail versions too but the "masterpiece, best quality" tags this model was trained with might be the worst quality tags i've ever used (even including pony's score bullshit...). i think i haven't had a single example where using them didn't give much worse results versus not using them
>>8198300haha, yes, that's why there will be more and more nai gens itt in due time!
>>8198314holy friedness
holy shit you really cranked the slop up to 11 while i was sleeping
>>8198314I'm not getting this problem. It just does nothing and I'm getting a toddler with loli in negs...
>>8198335its local
oh noez... gooknai baker is laughing at tofu again..
>>8198322like most of local it turns her into a toddler thats whyonly euge redeemed proper but lo-fi local Kuro https://litter.catbox.moe/pri630.png>>8198337for me it's consistent, every gen looks like this
>>8198195cum looks bad but the face is perfect
>>81982644ch vae sucks but he probably has more fundamental issues and 16ch or more would probably make the training costs too high since the latents are 4x bigger
>>8198340mintysisters, it's over...
I hate n
b-chama...
I hate na
NAGGLES
I hate nag
i can't load this thread on chromium, wtf is happening herealso I'm having some weird issues with pony v6, I'm grabbing some people's prompts from civ and I'm not able to replicate their gens at all
>>8198352>>8198357No
>>8198362I think your gpu is dying, anon
>>8198362remember to redeem expressiveH and all disney princess loras saar
noons...
>>8197378I want to gen cool dynamic poses out of the box, I want to gen things involving hands, I want coherent object holding, I want coherent feet, I want better colors and contrast, I want better prompt responsiveness. I want amazing text handling out of the box.
Does anyone know some tags to get a lot of pubic hair? Mine just keeps coming out like this. Im using the excessive pubic hair tag from the Danbooru, but still nothing.
>>8198382Probably just artist dependent.
>>8198382Pubes are extremely affected by artist tags you use. If you use artist that that exclusively draws light pubes - even "excessive pubic hair" tag would look like light pubes kind of. If you use artist tag that draws ultra hairy pussies - tag will look ultra hairy too. Try some of the hag specialists artist tags.
>>8198340At least we can use tofu. So it get a 4/10, while gooknai gets 0/10.
The east has fallen
>>8198400Try censoring just dick and pussy. It should still pass the lewd check.
>>8198346The most compute intensive part is still unet.
>>8198304>>8198112thanks for the feedback, I guess that in my style the free floating text is what works best at the end of the dayhttps://files.catbox.moe/8cm5bz.jpg
>>8198400Told you I only gen 100% genuine eastern hentai (cartoon porn); I put source_anime in the prompt after all. You gonna doubt the machine?
>>8198400I tried it with a heavy blur first. Seems like the censoring of lmsys is often more heavy handed than the inbuilt model one
>>8198023Forgot to respond that I passed it on, thanks.
>>8198400While it might not look like a gatekeeping purist's idea of 'eastern style', it's important to recognize the shifting dynamic of the modern world. We're more interconnected than ever, and cultures are blending into a big melting pot of awesomesauce. I think it absolutely represents the global and diverse magic of anime in 2024
>>8198388>>8198392Alright, when using artists I just put "by artist"? Sorry, I'm new to this.
>>8198400What's this
https://litter.catbox.moe/ot6jt1.pnghttps://litter.catbox.moe/75jsh6.pngwhy yes, I am enjoying genning on local, how could you tell?
>>8198428https://lmarena.ai/https://imgsys.org/
>>8197922>Be harmony and friendly. Avoid arguments and personal attacks.>No nsfw, politics, racism.>Be harmony and friendlyalways I want to be with you....
Does latent couple not work with forge? I don't understand how to use it.
>>8198448>not even the correct artist tag
>>8198388needs hooves instead of feet
>>8198477i tried it and it was shit, pretty sure all the regional prompters are. probably easier to just inpaint honestly
>>8198492regional prompter works fine. It just doesn't work on the new version of forge and returning to older versions of forge or reforge is not an option because I get extremely annoying OOM errors with them.
>>8198495https://litter.catbox.moe/0abk89.pngI genned this one new forge today and it seemed to work fine. Couple just somehow feels less strict than regional prompter did on a1111
>>8198400Here's your anime bro>>>/aco/8495939
aeiou
>>8198508nice style, very clean gen
>>8198502https://files.catbox.moe/wr5r75.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/aibbfd.png.
>>8198499How did you get this section to open up on forge? Also I tried it on A1111 just now and unless i'm doing it wrong the output was horrible.
>>8198512forgot image
Bros look at my cute (anime) model
>>8198515i used forge couple, not regional prompter
Flux won
>>8198522based
>>8198522Saved! (just like all your other images)
>>8198522Based freeNaiv3 poster
>>8198526I dislike the grain pattern. Hate it even.
>>8198524forge couple is trash, it doesn't even listen to your prompt half the time
>>8198545>>8198499True, but I'm not willing to switch back to a1111
>>8198542yeah but it's "soulful"
Tips for generating skinny, frail looking girls with big tits? My problem is that "skinny" reduces breast size while "slender" makes them have proportions as if they were really tall. Neither is optimal, I want to gen sticcs with big ol saggers
>>8198557https://mega.nz/folder/wDs2WCRB#F_LT9gLaGAWos7A4ZPIclw/folder/BeVH3TDAPick and mix your poison
>>8198566shit I must be retarded I did not considering using a lora for small details like this at allthanks anon
>>8198569Whoever dares to say it's /aco/ is a faggot
>>8198569Based.
>>8198569Why is she so ugly?
>>8198574
>>8198566Do these sort of sliders work with style loras?
>>8198579it's pony
>>8198542Good anime flux loras aren't exactly common yet
>>8198580First one that triggered a western style response. which llm was that?
mm
>>8198587still, western anime.
>>8198582nta and I haven't tried these specific ones, but generally they have their own style bias. Which gets worse the further you pull the "slider" in either direction.
>>8198587already closed the page
>>8198588can u gen her licking their assholes in sexy pose please
Do I need to download an upscaler or is one of the default A1111 ones good? I messed around with latent but it looks bad unless I do 0.7 denoise whichas its own issues
>>8198612>Do I need to download an upscaler or is one of the default A1111 ones good?All are kind of bad, search and use real upscalers, like remacri, nomos8k or NMKD>https://openmodeldb.info/
>>8198607sent
>nmkdSiaxCX_200k users when nmkdSiaxCX_400k walks in
>>8198612Less if you upscale by a smaller ratio. But yes, latent is not that useful these days. It does add a lot more detail, at the cost of changing the whole image slightly.But the differences between image space upscalers are pretty minor, I often just use real-esrgan-2x which was never meant for anime, and it works fine too. nomos is the big outlier here, as it's insanely slow and meant to be used as the final processing step, not to be touched up by AI afterwards.
>Forge>Last commit 12 hours ago>Maintained fork (reForge)>413 commits ahead of, 528 commits behind>Last commit 2 weeks agoWhat am I to believe
>>8198612>>8198622thanks I'll mess around
>>8198624I use regular forge right now, with caveat that I don't use Controlnet. Dunno if they work properly.
>>8198624why not bothYou can have them installed side by side and sharing the same model/lora/etc folders
>>8197373SEXBut now I wish you made bigger images again.
>>8198588Blasphemy! Nuns only take it in the ass!
Cute?
>>8198631the oekaki kick is too strong, ごめん。here's a zero effort upscale from the same lowres with a different lora mix, though.
>>8198656immaculate
>upload anime on danbooru>was disapproved (disinterest) by 11 "people" after 3 days>upload western slop>approved within 1 day, 0 disapprovalsshould unironically scrape from sancuck at this point
>>8198642Thanks, I'll take it. Original color palette was superior though!
> autism looks like shit after tofu> 4thtail is fried> tofu sucks with nsfwWhat now?
>>8198673upgrade to real meat
>>8198673Time to sub...
>>8198673idk tofu also looks like shit to me. what artists are you using?
>>8198678My artists tags for tofu are probably garbage. Too ashamed to share them
>>8198630how? when I edited the launchable I couldnt figure what to type to get my shared folder to be recognized
>>8198673try some meme model like reweik, tpony, perfect pony...
>>8198692f key is that meme from call of duty when saying paying respects to dead person so its like everyone hits f key to say goodbye
>>8198692this is pedophilia and should be moved to the appropriate board
>>81986922hucord invite...please...I don't want to give kurumuz money...
>>8198697it is inevitable
>>8198642I like the drawn style even at the higher res
>>8198689>reweiktrue>tponylol>prefect ponyLMAO
>>8198697Sent ;)
>>8198703-t. hasn't tried t-pony in a while
Armpits
>>8198703thats why I said meme model, they all have issue that make them suck
>>8198714we need to go back to the perfect model... based65...
Tofu...
>>81971861 for either (extracted with strength 1 if lyco, used multiplier 1 with add difference), used matrix 160 as base
kurumuz can you go stick a 25dollar dildo up your ass and fuck off please
>>8198719box?
>>8198724no :3
>>8198729Exactly the same as >>8198213 except switch model to tofu instead of 4th.
Apparently not the same, this time I didn't forget medium breasts! Although with body looking like tofu block it might not have been enough...Getting asked for box suspiciously many times (almost every gen) since switching to 4th/tofu.
>thighhighs >on>vibe >in>power>max>anlas>stockedOh yeah, it's NAI AGP time :3
>>8198737tbf it's probably because there are a few anons here trying to figure out good artist combinations for 4th tail/tofu (i'm one of them)
>>8198738Wtf is agp? Agi for imagen?
>>8198742>trying to figure out something that doesnt existits the hash mining all over again
>>8198730kurumuz, will NAIv4 be able to do this >>8196955in the future?
bake 4th tail loras instead. you won't regret it, and i'm not even being ironic.
>>8198751post a comparison image between your pony style lora and your 4th tail style lora or die
>>8198751Baking loras for 4ch models is a waste of time
>>8198756i would like to bake loras now and not just 2 years from now
>>8198759Just read some manga and shitpost here. Time will be gone in a flash
oh my GOSH guys did you hear about FLUX??? its soooo good but~~~*whispers* its not as good as DALLE~~ ^_^soooo im just going to wait. wait wait wait wait WAIT!! zzzzz no point baking a finetune on an inferior model after all!! waste of time
>>8198764Nice, try adding some expressiveH
>>8198766That's tofu. I don't think it would work. But I can try.
>>8198768>even tofu converges towards civitai ponyslopit's over
>>8198768Didn't fry the face at 0.61 denoise inpaint. That's a win, I think.
https://litter.catbox.moe/dlvkhb.png
there is more to it than the dataset. bakers still don't realize this. kohaku, arti, and now tofu. the same failbake again and again until bakers actually fix their training code.
nah if their dataset and their tagging was actually good we'd have a model 70% as good as nai already
>>8198786Box pls
https://litter.catbox.moe/nym2wu.pngI like local still
>>8198789Stealthpng should be working
>>8198789it's EF+HLL
>>8198785not happening it simply wontgarbage in garbage out bakers literally are focusing on every aspect of the model, hell even about training code all except dataset and its tags, no one wants to manually retag millions of images, even though if you do it the right way it can be used over and over again for future bakes bakers are lazy. its not that hard to get a bunch of people who are willing to do that for free just for the sake of a better model, just teach them how do they need to retag and youre done
>>8198795People give astralite so much shit, but he is the only baker who has spent thousands of hours doing dataset work.
>>8198797>but he is the only baker who has spent thousands of hoursmore like thousands of dollars to not care about what he is doing and brute force it
>>8198797his idea to make his discord help him with tagging part of the dataset was unironically pretty solid
>>8198797worst part is that he didn't even added nl captions in the 100% of the dataset, just only the 50% for ponyv6 and it still workedstill he added score tags n shit on all his dataset thomaybe thats where all his luck came from?
>>8198799I don't know how people get aroused by Makima. In anime she is extremely unsettling. And after manga effect is even worse.
>>8198781>>8198790based
>>8198673Generate 1girl, standing with Tofu
>>8198818I'm a femdomCHAD
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Is this real?
Good
>>8198834or just a fanta sea
>>8198831She is not even femdom. She is just cruel.
>>8198840>She is just cruel.even better
>>8198840There are levels to it
one part of this outfit isn't showing up but i don't think that there is a word in the english language to describe it in the captions. fucked up
>>8198818there is canonand there is fanonit's not that hardor are loli real children to you too?
>>8198830Great idea. Thanks, Anon.
>>8198837is th-israel?
frankly IDC about makima but all the bestiality art she gets is great
NI-nieggles loves cocks
>>8197995There's a pic not available, what was it?
Please finish the thread so I can check the highlights before my bedtime.
>>8198859catbox? looks great
>>8198857kill yourself as soon as possible
>>8198857Now you can sleep anon
>>8198673Back to autism since it's shit but less than the your favorite Xslopmix model.
Ngl I'm getting an urge to spam black cocks
why is pony so ugly
>>8198857why the fuck are you doing thisno one asked you to start doing this shitthe biggest waste of time ive ever seeni would prefer to have a request anchor instead of this pile of idiotic dogshit
>>8198865just do it bwo, let it out of your mind
>>8198844Why not post the missing part in a catbox?
>>8198867?
New Thread:>>8198874>>8198874>>8198874
>>8198867>i would prefer to have a request anchor insteadBe careful with what you wish for.
>>8196987At the end I didn't inpaint his helmet kek, It felt so out of place with the setting, I did 2 but tbqh I don't like them that much, her face came out kinda of weird and soulless despite trying my best to inpaint it, I got skill issue'd I guess>https://files.catbox.moe/qmkeg2.png>https://files.catbox.moe/sowx51.png
>>8198759>2 yearsOnly if a new easily trainable base model appears within one year.
>>8198831Anon, a warm dick will feel even better than a cold strap on.
>>8198893While I do agree her faces are a bit on the calmer side when compared to the other GSxP pics, the setting itself with them begin in a cabin while snowing on the outside is quite comfy so those expressions are appropiate.Also don't worry too much for the helmet, him not having it adds to the comfy factor.Thanks for The Good Stuff.
>>8198856A duplicate, I removed it myself
>>8198263catbox please!!
so glad i decided to stop posting gens and just use them as fap materialno more inpainting ever
>>8199514the best faps are after inpainting one 1girl standing gen for an hour though
>>8199532the best fap are on the most fucked up gen where its hot enough you just ignore all the flaw and throw it away like garbage once you are done with it
>no pussymouth/ genshttps://civitai.com/models/294319/pony-xl-pussy-mods-or-pussy-mouth-pussy-hole-hyper-pussywhat the fuck is doing on in hereit's like you gyuys don't used doing what AI is made forin the first place
>>8201000not*
>>8201000man that's like bordering cronenberg body horror
