KFC done RIGHT EditionPrevious Thread: >>8278356>LOCAL UIA1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webuiForge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForgeComfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI>LOCAL MODELSPony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294>PAIDNovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api>RESOURCESWiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templatesTraining: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerTags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tagControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-loraIOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/installUpscalers: https://openmodeldb.infoBooru: https://aibooru.online4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcbPony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jfIllustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuffUseful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif>Related>>>/aco/sdg>>>/g/sdg>>>/g/ldg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/u/udg>>>/vt/vtai>>>/vg/aids>>>/b/degen>>>/trash/sdg
>>8280719Previous Thread HighlightsTH_24-10-26_-hdg-_a.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/orlmgi.jpgTH_24-10-26_-hdg-_b.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/a6pgff.jpgSPOOKY_24-10-26_-hdg.jpg>https://files.catbox.moe/jl4ikx.jpg
>>8280722kill yourself
give it up for week 4 of "you guys will be crawling back to pony in a week"!
>>8280728literally nobody said this ever outside of your delusions
Now be a good boi and post in my thread :)
I'm not hinting at anythingbut like, if catbox goes down at the end of each thread...
>>82807282 more weeks buddy!
>>8280728It's pretty telling that there's only a single known poster still on pony in these threads. Makes the whole song and dance preeeetttyyy obvious.
>>8280730some people on the other generals unironically think this though which is hilarious
More like astralite will be crawling back to hit old employer begging to give him back the job he quit so he doesn't starve.
>>8280706Perfect, thanks anon.So will start with:--v_parameterization --zero_terminal_snr --scale_v_pred_loss_like_noise_pred --debiased_estimation_lossIf for example I want to train on the noob non v-pred model, it would be just: --debiased_estimation_lossAnd then some noise? Or is min_snr_gamma better than debiased_estimation_loss when not using vpred?
Oh yeah it's that 1 (one) schizo
>>8280738which one? on /edg/ it's literally a single retard and on /ddg/ they don't want to switch beacuse dicks aren't good enough yet on noob or something
>>8280743yeah i was mainly thinking of the one retard from /edg/ but i bet there's some more on trash or b that have trained loras on pony and stupidly feel they're too committed to switch (i can't emphasize how retarded of an outlook this is to have)
>>8280739so much more fun to watch what the horsefucker does now, no longer being chained to his model.
Any tips to improve performance on a 4090 on Reforge? I'm using "--always-gpu". Should I be using anything else?
>>8280747hello fellow 4090 anonset COMMANDLINE_ARGS= --xformers --pin-shared-memory --cuda-malloc --cuda-stream --always-gpu
>>8280749I thought xformers was enabled by default on reforge as the readme lists "--disable-xformers" will try the others, thanks.
>>8280750they probably are, check at the bottom of the webui and it'll let you know. i just never bothered removing it from my start bat
>>8280741Yes>Or is min_snr_gamma better than debiased_estimation_loss when not using vpred?Debiased should be better with epspred as well, but some retards swear that they get better results with minsnr.
butt
>>8280753This is a child.
>>8280754out of ten!
>>8280754dont worry bro, its just a petite adult woman™
>>82807562000 years old (it's a hag)
samefagging intensifies
Just threw tony into a dumpster
HUH WHY NO ONE POSTING PICTURES??? DO I HAVE TO PULL AGAIN MY PIXIV ARCHIVE??
>>8280761do it for EPIC too while you're at it
>>8280763Sorry bro, we love EPIC now.
Anchor?
>>8280719Really liked your prompt on last thread, made a couple changes so it looks like she was burning the guy to death
keep going noodlekek
give up and die noodletard
>>8280741>Or is min_snr_gamma better than debiased_estimation_loss when not using vpred?AFAIK they do two different things. min_snr_gamma scales the loss on lower timesteps, debiaed estiamtion loss scales the loss of the higher timesteps. the timesteps are effectively what % of the original image is visible, with the lower timesteps being 100% noise and the highest timesteps being 0% noise. i think that both are effectively preventing individual images from having outsized effects on the timesteps that they effect. i have used both since they were added to sd_scripts at least a year or two ago and desu debiased estimation loss is completely ass and will do nothing besides prevent your model from learning certain details. min_snr_gamma can prevent your lora from learning fucked up anatomy with certain datasets but is otherwise useless. i'm not sure if this also applies to train_sdxl.py or if it's localized to just train_network for whatever reason, or if there's an issue with training at SDXL resolutions since debiased estimation loss worked fine with sd 1.5.
>>8280753why is it so erotic?
>>8280775it's NAI
>>8280773Do you mean that either snr min gamma or debiased estimation loss aren't needed? I see, but then, debiased estimation as well or it is different vs debiased estimation loss?
>>8280778What's happening here, anon?
>>8280780not necessary. i think that min snr gamma can have a use case but in my experience that's basically when you're training an artist with a lot of fucked up poses that the ai isn't good at recreating
>>8280741Different anon, thanks for the info, this is what I understand so farFor vpred models, it's either--v_parameterization --zero_terminal_snr --scale_v_pred_loss_like_noise_pred --debiased_estimation_lossor--v_parameterization --zero_terminal_snr --min_snr_gamma
>>8280753Doing reverse search of this picture on every big engine on my friend's house!
>>8280754Why do you have to see children everywhere, especially on hentai board? Normal people don't engage in such behavior. Seek help.
>>8280792nta but this is basically correct yes. you should probably set a value for min snr gamma, i like 10
>>8280792I understood the same as well, now as >>8280786 anon said that either are necessary, will try with just--v_parameterization --zero_terminal_snr
Shupo stackinghttps://files.catbox.moe/a3gk1b.png
'why does 40010prototype not work on noob, he has like 200 images on danbooru'>a crapton of duplicates, some monochrome images, and his artstyle is only really recognisable by today's standards for about 100 of those aforementioned bad imagesmight work on the final version though?
Any development on hentai animation? Or are we still stuck on SD 1.5 animatediff?
>>8280801Impressive. Very nice. Let's see anon's base prompt.
>>8280809https://files.catbox.moe/evtack.png
>>8280797Because I'm a pedophile, duh. Are you retarded?
>>8280766>8280731It's DED, Jim.
>>8280798Wondering, does batch size affects (using higher batch sizes) negatively? Like 1 vs 5.
>>8280813>loraFigured. XL huh? The only XL one for Midari on shitai looks so generic but guess I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the idea, anon.
I'll never post my boxes.You will never steal my prompts.
>go to the /trash/ slop thread>It's ALL NAI metadata
>>8280832so thats where the good pics are?
>>8280832People don't want to play with a billion settings and install shit on their PCs. It's logical. SaaS is almost always more mainstream for a reason.
>>8280832localbros, one day...one day...
>>8280819depends on what you mean by negatively. i can't tell you on the difference in the effects of batch size between different settings (minsnrgamma vs debiased estimation etc), but generally you can't just increase batch size without changing other settings and expect the same results. you need a higher lr for higher batch sizes. unless you're really deep into experimenting with stuff i'd stick with 1 or 2. purely off of my experimentation i'd say higher batch sizes have benefits aside from faster training (sometimes the way it generalizes better can be a plus) but there's diminishing returns. it also takes more compute to train at higher batch sizes
catbox died
>catbox fucking diedWhy is catbox always so fucking dogshit?Either it's slow as fuck or it's dead. Upgrade your shit servers.
>>8280845it's free anon. be thankful it even exists in the first place
>>8280845stuck permanently hosting terabytes of garbage loli gens and unused loras
>>8280845>Complains about a free service being unavailable and tells the creator to spend the nonexistent money they are earningMaybe pay for the upgrade yourself then faggot
>crash eet
>>8280846So is plenty of other services and they don't suck fucking ass, but they're slightly less convenient, come up with a better excuse faggot.>>8280848Why don't you, if you think paying them is actually going to make any difference?>>8280847They delete unactive shit after a while
>>8280846>>8280847I'm genuinely surprised that it hasn't been shut down for good yet
>>8280852oh really? name another free service that let's you upload images uncensored with metadata indefinitely without an account or moderation. i'll wait
>>8280801why is it so good?
>>8280854woah, deliver box pls
This happened because someone badmouthed NAI
>clochette lora keeps generating the younger sister as a loli instead of a shortstack if i use any height/size difference related tokens at allwow epic danbooru gold content ftw
>>8280843It dies on the regular these day
>>8280855>indefinitely>without moderationLiterally nothing, not even catbox.Every single host is subject to takedowns. Only way around it is torrents.You don't need indefinitely for single images anyways, so gofile is a really good alternative.It keeps files for as long as there are some who download every now and then.If someone wants your gen 1 year from now, then fuck them for trying to dig up old trash.Maybe they take down loli, but loli makes up for a small percentage of catboxes around here, so it's a non-issue.
>>8280719did not expect to see Kiara in this board
>>8280866i didn't mean literally no moderation, but catbox is unironically as good as it gets
>>8280814>decided to troll some retarded normalfaggot who can't handle a loli butt without kvetching >got (you)d by fellow pedo
>>8280872>as good as it getsSo is gofile. The only difference is ease of use.Catbox breaks often and is dogshit slow.Gofile can't embed like catbox but is fast and is much more stable.
>>8280861Be aware I did these in an unnecessarily dumb way using forge couplehttps://files.catbox.moe/xp31wl.png
>>8280832>check trash>curious what other AI threads there might be>there are a total of 7 different /blacked/ generals>close the tabWhat the fuck
>>8280882R-really? Haha.. w-weird. Think I'll go make fun of them..
>>8280882You sound like a redditor
>>8280884Beat you to itThen beat to it
https://huggingface.co/spaces/John6666/text2tag-llm
>>8280889Absolute horseshit lmao
>>82808901flower straight chads.....
>>8280889>>8280890not a bad idea if it was actually trained on booru tags. if i want to replicate a gen or learn more tags i tend to take the generated image and run in through an interrogator to learn tags i never knew existed
>>8280876gofile is good but i've seen way more stuff get removed on gofile than catbox
https://files.catbox.moe/h1w1k4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/b02wk4.pngSecond one not quite what I was trying to gen but still hot
>>8280902Based. Hagsissies could never.
>>8280902You're on one of the greatest runs /hdg/ has ever seen
>>8280902where's the lora from?
>>8280908https://civitai.com/models/834822/nyalia-illustrioushttps://civitai.com/models/799615/nozomi-hikari-blue-archive
>>8280912>nyalia>https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/8786609is this the artist? it's a style lora trained on the style of someone's ai generated stuff? lol
>>8280902Can tell the halos are from Blue Archive but who are those?
>>8280917>hikari \(blue archive\), long hair, wavy hair, nozomi \(blue archive\), twintails,they all have metadata anon
>>8280917Hikari and Nozomi, twins from Blue Archive. They're colloquially referred to as "shupogaki" in the community
>>8280914nta, if it works, it workstrained on AI=bad is just a cargo cult parrot take without case by case emperical testing
>>8280917Bratty train lolishttps://youtu.be/dsQGL4h_6iU?si=af2qQouWTfZ9MIzT&t=475
>>8280921never said it was bad. just found the irony amusing
>>8280924right, I think more AI pixiv's deserve to be stolen from desu
>>8280914Weird thing I am starting to notice among AI users is that, they actually want a bit of that fake AI look in their gens these days. Not calling anyone out just a funny trend I am seeing
I hate asking but can anyone make a pony lora for the vtuber trickywi? We seriously need one that isnt using sd 1.5
>>8280927>>>/vt/vtai
>>8280927kill yourself vtumorfag
>>8280927Your odds of success are much higher if you gather the dataset and caption them to a good degree
>>8280927You will have a much higher chance to get that done in /vtai/ as an anon over there takes on making LoRAs. It may take a few tries though.
>>8280933>>8280928thank you I didnt know
>>8280832I lurk there occasionally and there's plenty of local posters, but feels like they come in waves. And funnily even they switched from pony.
>>8280925by all means name some good ones anon
>check new models after like two years>hands are still garbage most of the timenothing ever happens ig
>>8280957i wish they didn't remove the ip counter so i could call you out
>>8280926I like NAI's "fake over-rendered AI look" but still hate the aomslop and pony style. Doing sketch, traditional media gens got old quite fast.
>>8280958lolthe only thing i remember from these threads is two avatarfags, sadly
>>8280960Miqotesissies.. she made an impact after all.
>>8280957hands are way better than two years ago. you must be smoking crack if you think they're anywhere in same ballpark as early waifu diffusion>>8280961>pony newfag shitposters
>>8280962not waifu diffusion tier but they don't seem much better than AOM back in the dayi'm using that noobai thing from the OP btw
>>8280966then yeah it's less of an upgrade but they are a lot more consistent. i can actually prompt for hand poses and generally get them at a way more often without inpainting than sd1.5 aom/derivatives
^what kind of falseflag is that?
>>8280969>>8280968fuck you
^where?
>>8280967Why are you using my prompt, mister?
>>8280974
what got him seething this early?
who?
me
proof?
is it fun for you?
>>8280955hot box?
>>8280994Soft-Spamming is their new black.
>>8280977>>8280979>>8280982>>8280993Stop using my prompt, mister
>>8280722Thanks
is there an interrogator that tags artists so you can steal styles from other people's gens?
Is it that 1 (one) schizo again?
yes
>>8281004
God I hate that 1 (one) schizo
(ai-generated:9000.0)
>>8280995https://files.catbox.moe/xm1sel.png
>>8281014didn't know that NAI can be almost as good as pony
>>8281021Don't compare Pony with that garbage
what a weird meltie
what meltie?
>>8281014Not very kind of you, mister
what
?
this is what pony does to a mfer...
>>8281036why is it so blurry?
>>8281043it's nai
>>8281043it's not Pony
>>8280773>min_snr_gamma scales the loss on lower timesteps, debiaed estiamtion loss scales the loss of the higher timesteps
>>8281048You don't know what you're talking about
>>8281050Can you not read the plot?
>>8281051I, in fact, cannot since the Y axis isn't labeled.
>>8281044but it's not nai?
>>8280225idk, i just see pussy+boob = good
why is he melting?
>>8281030Too old, can hear the bone rattlingBe a hero, give us what we want to see
>>8281036Don't use my prompt, mister
>>8281067who are you talking to!?
I know you guys aren't very fond of Pony anymore, but does anyone have a toml or two for training characters and styles? Or some tips for settings?I think its still got some use, probably.>>8280525>>8280520Catbox, anon?
>>8281070There are shitposters here and there, but really it's just fucking confusing, WHY would anyone subject themselves to using pony now when there are actually good local models out there?
>>8280927who is "we"
>>8281074Shut up noodlekek
>>8280963>>8280983Great body shape, what artist did you use?
>>8280963>>8280983why is it so dynamic despite it lookin just a bit like pony?
What sampler do people use these days?
Hello
what's with the influx if garbage today
Is it illegal to post two in a row?>>8280982This guy did it.
>>8281087>Is it illegal to post two in a row?Yes>This guy did it.He has special privileges
>>8281088I'll try coming back tomorrow to see when I can post one more. Slow thread.
>>8281078It's Metata
>>8281087Only people who made it into highlights can post two in a row. Better luck next thread
>>8281092It's just one guy posting highlights anonymously, couldn't anyone just... make highlights and post them?
>>8281093Only whoever manages to make the first post as highlights. Any other highlights don't count
>>8281095Impressive security
>>8281097Yeah, we are very serious about rules here
>tourst namefagplease go back to the shithole you came from
>>8281099Sorry /b/ sent me here because I "milf spam".
>>8281091why are the body proportions so bad?
>>8281100you should fuck right off back then or go to sdg if you want to namefag/avatarfag
>>8281091Thanks, just him? Can I get a box for the underboobs one?
>>8281100You responded to noodlefaggot. Please ignore him and post as much as you like
>>8281105there's a line we don't cross when shitposting. this is the line anon
>>8281105Is noodle like your boogieman version of beany from /g/?
>>8281100go back and tell them to fuck off it's /b/ and you can post whatever the fuck you want therebut here you're just a retarded fucking shitposter who isn't welcome.
>>8281107Yes, but a real schizo
>>8281107you responded to the "noodleschizo schizo"it's really (probably) cathag but it's just a schizo that tries to blame everything on a single ESL that doesn't actually do anything other than post in one of a few consistent art stylesyou're still a faget and need to fuck off, though.
>>8281110For you my friend, anything.>>8281108I'll just jack it to your post instead.
keking at noodleschizo
eps pred v0.75https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl?modelVersionId=998979
>>8281114shit, beat me to it
>>8281114nice
>>8281086it's flux
>>8281114HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE!!!!!
how did this place devolve so much in like 12 hours>>8281114at least there's this
>>8281119wrong image. oh well, enjoy the pixels
>>8281119Europeans went to sleep, Americans were still up
>>8281121Us sars run this thread, SAR
So... 1.0 in two weeks?
>>8281114the colors in the previews look kinda washed, how is it in practice
>>8281121it's 5am eastern
>>8281114Let's go.
>>8281114>we're this much closer to getting a new vpred bakenice
>>8281119>devolveDoesn't seem any different than it's been for the past year roughly
> Deleted?
>>8281104Yep, it's just metata, here's the catboxhttps://files.catbox.moe/tb1esv.png
>>8281125zased
>>8281137im retarded and didnt see earlier post
>>8281138im also retarded and saw your post and somehow skipped that one, so good job
what are the differences between noob and illustrious?
>>8281140noob is trained on top of illust
>>8281114feels like the weaker artists tags (with fewer images in the dataset) have converged a tad better. gotta tune the ratios for my mixes again...captcha: KAAHT
>>8281144based as fuck, please show he pussy please
>>8281144double dubs checked
>>8281143box please?
>>8281148https://litter.catbox.moe/lczk0o.webp
>>8281114this shit is annoying me, twice now it almost finishes downloading, but fails, and when I retry it doesn't start again!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARERRGAWRRWGR
>>8281151Brother, you ever heard of download managers? Very convenient for this exact situation.
what are some good settings for adetailer?
>>8281152yeah gonna use one if this one fails.
>>8281153More steps for face, force 1024x1024 for face. That's it.
Loli footjobs!
>>8281144>>8281147Based
>>8281158Based
official /b/ raid
>>8281161No, this is my new home. The milf spam thread.
>>8281161As opposed to unofficial?
seems to be able to do 40010prototype a bit better now
>>8281161i thought it was /g/
>>8281161i thought it was /pol/
>>8281161and its still more /h/ than most image posted in these threadsalmost everything here is /aco/ right now anyway
>>8281165>>8281167sametard IM NOOOOTICING
>>8281156I have some but they're too embarrassing to post even via box (quasarcake:0.5, pee stain, armpit hair)
>>8281169Damn samefags
>>8281167>>8281169samefag
>>8281168Are Koreans more /d/ or /aco/? What if they were realistic instead of cartoon.This is the problem I have with /b/, the loli posters keep sending me to random boards.
>>8281176korean are asian so they are /h/ as it is like japanese
>>8281162Is this ironic shitposting or are you really only capable of posting shitty sd 1.5 tier gens in 2024?
>>8281176yd is korean and every second shitmix has him so gooks are fine
>>8281179SD1.5 gens faster on my laptop. I save the good stuff for myself.Not sure that it's that much worse than what the other highlighted posters are posting in the older threads though.
>>8281175samefag
>>8279136>>8279479>>8280694boxes for this pls
>>8281164Poor Mikan :(But he's more of a doujin artist, NAI is bad at him too. Just gotta train a lora when the full noob releases.
>>8281150>webp
at least you faggots are easy to hide
>>8281189what's wrong with webp? i can load the metadata from it
>>8281188>>>/g/sdg will love you
>>8281184I feel like Noob 0.75 does him better than NAI does at this point but in all likelihood we'll probs need to wait for the vpred conversion until we can get his shading down pat
>>8281188don't listen to trolls, keep posting but please make it /h/ and put her nipple out
>>8281161The more the merrier. The thread is fucking dead
>>8281198Trying.She's fighting me.
>>8281200haha so cute! keep it up and keep trying
Tried IllustriousXL but it's crap compared to AutismmixSDXL
>>8281203Extremely lazy bait
can't believe namefags revived the thread. heroes
>baitDo not underestimate shitmixers
>>8281205Turns out the heroes were the shitposts we made along the way.
Consensus on SD3.5?
>>8281181i'm geniunely curious give me one highlighted post that you think your garbage even approaches the quality of. and this is coming from someone who hates the highlight faggot
>>8281207can you show her ass?
>>8281208It's shit.I couldn't get a pussy on it to save my soul. Kept looking like a Barbie doll.Also, the hands are like... 3 steps back. If not more.
>>8281209sir, there's an ayakon post highlighted.
>8281209nice bait noddleschizo
>>8281207based, i love cute korean girls
>>8281212not even ayakon is that dogshit, and i can't believe i'm saying that
Is that noodleschizo in the room with us right now?
>>8281216If any of you fuckers were actually in the room with me right now I'd kick your teeth in and beat you up with my bare hands and my biceps
>8281217any school you shot today?
>>8281196The eyes look kinda closer but those noob gens you posted look pretty fucked up otherwise, lol. Just not a lot of good pics on danbooru. It's fine, loras work great on noobtunes anyway
>>8281220It's Sunday idiot
>>8281209For /b/tards if it's not aomslop with le "detailed" shading it's bad. >>8281212Ayakon is better than the trash those namefags are posting.
>namefags "raid" thread>image quality of posts plummetsthis says more about the other boards than anything and it makes it hilarious. i genuinely hope it's just some shitposters here riling the place up
>>8281221Yeah having 4 sets of eyebrows is odd lol
>complains about quality of images>doesn't ever post an image himselfinteresting
>turns out it actually is some retarded /b/ """"drama"""" spam bullshit somehow spilling over into the thread and not just a resident shitposter with a new tacticman what even the fuckwhy are there so many fagets with so little value for their own goddamn time that that this is the shit that they do
(((they))) didn't want to go to /b/, /b/ came to /hdg/
>>8281226on /b/ we have a saying about people like himno genno opinion>>8281227Brother, it's night time on a weekend. What else am I meant to be doing? This is my off time.
Oh yeah it's all me
>>8281230based. you will fit in here perfectly. always ignore no gens
>>8281226why would i bother posting gens given the state of this place at the moment. i'd rather wait 12 hours when it calms down. also fuck off shitposter>>8281227anyone that tries to make an identity on an anonymous image board is seeking validation because of a lack of it irl
>>8281232Yeah it's that 1 (one) schizo
>noodlekek still seething
>>8281239DAT ASS
>>8281221Gonna box this one because it's not really /h/ but I'm pretty hopeful for the full version and vpred version right now https://files.catbox.moe/g0r8c8.png
V-pred noobai is next!!
>>8281242Saten-san is so hot...
>>8281242What's with that prompt...
>>8281239
>>8281246What part of the prompt?
>>8281245It's only noodletard complaining. Post whatever you want
>>8280849Bwo the cheek bulge box please. Was trying for this pose for an hour or so other day couldn't get it.
>>8280849Is that an ishikei lora or baked-in style?
>>8281243i unironically can't wait
>>8281252https://files.catbox.moe/bqtxjk.pngNgl it was pretty gacha for me, I did the good old batch size 8 with 2 batches and picked the one that came out right lol>>8281254Baked-in style, for some reason Ishikei's Kanade is pretty strong in every model I tried
>>8280849>foreskin fingersholy kek
>>8281256Yeah that was my experience, the biggest issue was the cheek bulge and shit was okay but I couldn't get that slight head tilt so it was some weird straight on and the man's dick went 90 degrees. Oh well time to try 0.75
>>8281247deeper wider
>>8281257dingers
>>8281245best post in the thread right nowkeep posting
so is there any autotagger than uses the new models but doesnt bug out
>>8281269Tagger models aren't diffusion models
>>8281270i meant the new tagger models, i was catching up with last thread
>>8281269>new modelsis there anything newer than the v3 ones? I'm using WD EVA02-Large Tagger v3 and it's pretty good
>>8281269>>8281271https://github.com/Eugeoter/waifuset
>>8281183https://files.catbox.moe/320wrf.png>>8281269https://files.catbox.moe/js8n10.pngjust use the a1111/(re)forge webui extension. you just need to go into the py files and add the new taggers
>>8281274would you mind just pastebinning your file? i tried it but didn't get it in the right place
>>8281276https://files.catbox.moe/yuxp9r.pynot at all. replace \stable-diffusion-webui-wd14-tagger\tagger\utils.py
>>8281281thanks chief>>8281273nah not looking for an AIO solution, the ui of boorudatasettagemanager is still better for actual tag managing (i.e. less clicks to do actions, no wasted space on gradio shit)
>>8281245>5 steps of Pony and 30 steps of SDXL.we can tellit looks like absolute shit
>>8281286why would you respond to him. you're just giving him a reason to come back
Seems like my artists look better on 0.5, compared to 0.75 lol
>>8281290lol
>>8281291lol
>>8281290gen doko?
>>8281283>the ui of boorudatasettagemanager is still better for actual tag managing (i.e. less clicks to do actions, no wasted space on gradio shit)you wouldn't know until you try it
>>8281293uhh, you don't get to bring gens
>>8281294i looked at the screenshot of the interface
>>8281290lora or no lora?
>>8281294waifuset is nice. just don't know what half of the buttons do and can't be bothered to read the google translate of euges documentation
>>8281298just run it with --language en
>>8281068To the guy mocking my prompt
>>8281299I do, still no clue what "progress" or regex" or "buffer" do
>>8281114LAX PLEASE STOP WASTING TIME ON THIS COLOR WASHED EPS SHIT AND TRAIN VPRED
>>8281303regex is regular expressions
>>8281136Thanks!
did sd 3.5 for forge webui drop yet?
>>8281304pretty sure vpred is on hold until 1.0 of noob is out
>>8281256dick fingers...
I'm noticing my images are leaning towards blue more in 0.75. Like the exact same image with a redish background now is bluish.
>>8281274>>8281281that's a very cute style
>>8281312so never?
>>8281311That's a child
>>8281316at least two weeks until they start on vpred probably, considering the time it took from 0.5 to 0.75
>>8281318And?
do e621 artists work yet?
>>8281311lllya is currently busy with more important things
>>8281312Correct, from the model page>We hope you like this 75% version, and we plan to release 100% of the EPS-Ver next month, and at the same time begin development work on the full version of the V-pred release.
>>8281290Same, here the artists style is worse so far
>>8281322Namely this https://github.com/lllyasviel/IC-Light/discussions/98
>>8281290seems generally better from my limited testing.noob0.5https://files.catbox.moe/r0irmz.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/m4et8c.pngnoob0.75https://files.catbox.moe/0tx83t.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/juswuc.png
>>8281321get out...GET out....GET OUT!!! GEEEEET OUUUUUUUUUUT!!!!!
>>8281331no
Man, I'm having no luck with 0.75. Tags in negatives somehow keep bleeding into my gens when 0.5 followed it to the dot. Not to mention just the overall gacha outputs. Even tried moving around tag orders and still no dice. Well, occasionally whereas 0.5 just landed what I wanted 4 out 5 times. Think I'll sit on 0.5 for now. I had few complaints.
>>8281329Thank you for posting actual A/Bs anonie. The colors between 0.5 and 0.75 don't look too bad compares to between base Illustrious and 0.5. Now I continue to wait for vpred+ztsnr...
>>8281300Learn how to prompt imbecile
>>8281329nice but i feel like you could have presented this better. as in checkpoint on x axis, artists on y axis, and different grids for different prompts/seeds
>>8281331it's a furry model now, sirdeal with it https://litter.catbox.moe/j4c6al.png
>>8281338>new discord invitation linkdid they shit up the one they were in so bad lax had to nuke it? jesus
>>8281336how are you managing to prompt NAIv3 to look worse than pony
>>8281300>>8281336you are both retards
>>8281340its nai
someone do an 0.5 / 0.75 x/y plot
>>8281343see >>8281329
Think gsusart was better on 0.5 for me
bros I have no creativity, what are some sexy clothes? I can only think ofplayboy bunnybikinicrop top + denim shorts
>>8281347denim bikinibunny jorts
>>8281336You are copying my prompts and making them worse>>8281340>>8281341Didn't ask nogens
>>8281344an xy plot that includes both models in the grid
>>8281351are you developmentally challenged?
>>8281350why is this /aco/ poster talking to himself
>>8281347bunny onesie pajamas
>>8281347just prompt lingerie and let the AI do the job
>>8281337I mean, I'm doing this for my own sake and just sharing it, not really as an intentional presentation for the rest of the class. either way presentation is going to be fucked because it's inherently going to be a fuckhuge grid.that said, part 2, same artists tested but different prompthttps://files.catbox.moe/qsuupf.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ph3qqm.pngseems like .75 is doing 'super deformed' a bit better as a whole(though doesn't seem to be "there" quite yet), hand anatomy seems hit/miss but I don't really consider that as mattering a whole lot in this scenario.
>>8281347Print bra/pantiesThe more garish the colors and immature the print, the better :)
>>8281362But only if it's older girls wearing them.
>>8281365Doesn't matter, looks cute on smug youngsters and great with older embarrassed girls.
>>8281347cowprint bikini+elbow gloves+thighhighs
Never trust a vampire.
>>8281372it would be extremely painful
>>8281373He's a big guy
>>8281329>>8281293>>8281297no loramuririn, kobuichimignoncarnelianhttps://files.catbox.moe/sofaki.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jaf8x4.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/v0tnoj.png
>>8280737Is this only single known poster in the thread with us right now?
>>8281376Yeah I've been testing my old prompts on 0.75 and I'm thinking that 0.5 is better overall...
general coherence feels a lot better than 0.5, there's no major color tradeoff like base illu -> 0.5, but I think I'll be staying on the vpred test+itercomp merge until they release the full conversion because it's just too aesthetically superiorhttps://files.catbox.moe/q3zbr7.png>>8281321answering my own question: yes, it seems they're finally being recognized compared to 0.5. this is omikuro.https://files.catbox.moe/qe3y9d.png
>>8281380any decent furry artists that i could use for animenot interested in animals
https://files.catbox.moe/vtun3i.pnggive artists and i will test
>>8281382even the no artist one is way better on 0.5 which is already quite tellingsad that model are going backward when training
>>8281381Dagashi_(daga2626)
>>8281381some of my favorites which should work good for humans as well:hideki kanedakame (3t)bittenhardcrunchobararuurara (on danbooru as inuki (aruurara))nakagami takashisindollrikose
>>8281385great, can't wait for the new sexy "anime" slop
>>8281382fishine, zankuro,karasu raven,ratatat,chii,yd are improved, rest got significantly worse
>>8281360different artists, different prompt, 1 seed per artisthttps://files.catbox.moe/ygaic0.pngand with a different prompt without a character to bleed stylehttps://files.catbox.moe/s7rgrb.pngsome artists are definitely improved, others might have bleed some concepts to some radnom tag somewhere.
>>8281386?
>>8281382we are regressing back to nai3 levels of artist fidelity. Guess there is no way around loras
>>8281383Yeah I've just been going through all my old gens page by page and I think I liked all of them better on 0.5 For starters there's a tendency towards brighter colors, more whitesThe anatomy is more consistent in exchange for having really odd, often uncomfortable looking posingThe faces seem more broken than before too, multiple eyebrows, eyes are less detailed and more 'melty.'When I tag one character making physical contact with another character, I'm noticing that the amount of times their arms clip through each other or melt into each other is more prevalent. This is especially noticeable with groping.Really not sure why it's gotten so much worse either, did they mention changing any settings/datasets?
>try my mix on 0.75>generally just looks worse and artifacts everywherecool!
more finger issues in 0.75?
>>8281392thanks for posting the gens to prove it anonie!anyways, namako daibakuhatsu actually kinda works on 0.75
Nyalia save us...
Sigh. Back to pony, it seems.
>>8281391Are you also noticing a trend towards a more blue tone? or maybe it's just the artist I'm usingHands feel worse so far too.
>>8281391also noticed hand clipping
>>8281394I like the left version more, not shitposting. Don't know if it's closer to the artist or not.
i really wish shitposters would fuck off for a second. just have to get that off my chest
>>8281400the left version looks nothing like the artist, the right version is clearly learning the style
>>8281402worse colors and outfit fidelity tho
>>8281391>why it's gotten so much worseDid they full incorporate e621 data yet and it's just the start of the blend? I wasn't sure if they'd finished it on the initial 0.5 cause if we're doing that we're adding in a shit ton of just animal limbs and other shit that isn't human.
>>8281394why the pixels are so much more fucked on the right?
>>8281403the colors look about the same imo and I was a major noob naysayer when their first demos came out and looked way worse than illustrious
are you being fucking retards as usual or 0.75 really is worse? downloading rn
>>8281407colors are about the same, anatomy seems al ittle more consistent, artists it knew well are the same or arguably worse, artists it didn't know well improved. seems about right for 0.5 to 0.75
They trained the te this time
just bake the vpred for allah sake
>>8281412LAX is fucking terrified that some random civijeet will give them a negative review because they can't figure out how to load the model so vpred is delayed another 12 months sorry
>>8281397Kind of, yeah. Not even just a blue hue but rather a noticeable tendency towards blue in general with backgrounds. And a lot of gradients too>>8281404They already had the e621 data in 0.5You can test it out by prompting furry shit like idk theboogie gardevoir or something. That being said, maybe the model is tipping more towards the e621 dataset now, since it's further removed from typical human-like anime trends? It's the only reason I can think of for the change in colors and anatomy
>>8281414>It's the only reason I can think of for the change in colors and anatomy>>8281410
lmao
It isn't looking good noobbros...
>>8281413There was no reason for random civitsaaaar to use vpred, but if the shiny new top model requires it, they'll be able to handle installing a single fucking extension, it really isn't hard to do. Maybe they're afraid that vpred bake will just fail for whatever reason
>>8281417show multiple seeds shitposter
Wtf happened to nyamota with 0.75, it's gotten like 4 times worse lmao
>>8281417well even on left one she has two left legsdeliberate skill issue
>>8281419no it's probably because they can only train one model at a time and they're already halfway into epsilon so might as well finish it. either way they said vpred after they get 1.0 (which they said is a month from now) so maybe we'll get a decent vpred bake by the end of hte year
>>8281353yes
>>8281417add "5 toes" it's a superior e621 tag
Might've just gacha'd this but 0.75 has consistency with (un)safe sex now?
>>8281424vpred is a seamless conversion from your current eps epoch so there's realistically no reason NOT to just commit to it, but you're probably right that the "we've already said we're going to release a 1.0 eps version" is what's going on in LAX's head. it's going to be silly though since vpred is a continued pretrain so it will learn things better than the eps version by the time it's done as well.
That's what we get for including f*rry art in the dataset instead of expanding it with anime screenshots like nai does
>>8281431Literally what the fuck are you whining about you goddamn schizophrenic
now that the /b/tards are gone, did you all notice how shit their gens were?
>>8281431yeah I feel like the furry art is affecting the hand quality
>>8281431should make a new game where we try to guess whether an anon is either a retard or shitposter. we already play it every day here anyways
>>8281433yeah
>>8281433>now that the /b/tards are goneare the /b/tards not in the room with us right now?
I can feel the furry art trying to come through on the side profile....
>>8281439Training the te on all of that disgusting slop was a mistake. Guess we have to self-fund a vpred conversion of the .5 model
>>8281420
>>8281440take jordach money and give it to euge
>>8281442
>>8281433you do realize the quality of their gen is the least of their concern? if anything they probably like the fact that its garbage
the colors are so much flatter...anyone know why they trained the TE this time?
>>8281440taking the knot is a low price for a proper rusty trombone!
>>8281444better colors and closer to artist style, but fucked up toe
>>8281447foreskin play and rimming is pretty amazing...
>>8281446They wanted it to learn new characters and artists. If we're lucky it's just a convergence problem... Still, the fact that they were confident to post this, is concerning.
>>8281448>better colorsyou mean sepia?
>>8281382cromachina, kumasteam, deadflow
Same seed, which side is best?
>>8281452nice. thanks for the stealth metadata anon>>8281455that depends entirely on the prompt
illu loras on 0.75 look kinda bluish...
>>8281446I'm beginning to see some sepia seep through on those pictures on the right...
>>8281457same everything, but 0.5 vs 0.75
>>8281455they both suck, why is it so glossy? put away the vaseline, bro.
>>8281459oh my... you're right bwo
>>8281450they probably want feedback on what went wrong
>>8281455right looks better
>>8281455both melting but the right is kinda less melting?
>>8281461because I like shine >>8281457I know what you mean now
>>8281459STOP THE TRAINING
>>8280983catbox?
https://civitai.com/posts/8381783
*clopping in the distance intensify*Wait...could it be?
>>8281460that's not the point. which image is better depends on what the fucking prompt is, which we don't know because you'd rather play a farm (you) game instead of just posting a catbox
>>8281464>>8281465right is 0.75Also right is 0.75 here tooI guess it's more of a hit and miss thing because the same seed gives a very different result
>>8281470we thought we could escape pony, but pony comes for us all in the endnoob showing more and more of the signs for the problems that pony had is like the epitome of hubris e621 was unironically a mistake
>>8281471you sound angrywhy?
>>8281471that's why I said I know what you mean now slowpoke
>>8281468retard
>>8281479I'm getting 404, are you sure this is catbox?
>>8281477cause i'm tired of bullshit, honestly>>8281478i see, missed that reply
>>8281412They are baking it you stupid faggot
It went too far!!
>>8281475garbage in, garbage out
>>8281483why is it so bright
why can't you faggots use cfg < 12?
>>8281479you're right I'am a retard I didnt see the replies please forgive my stupidity
it's not cfg, you absolute nigger faggot
>>8281485I don't know! Same prompt had more normal images, anyway I removed colourful and high contrast now
If training the TE actually is a mistake, couldn't we just use the 050 or even illustrious TE instead of the 075 one? Or does it mess with the Unet as well?
>>8281455Right because it's not cuckshit.
>>8281491This is stupid, but what happens if we merge 0.5 and 0.75
>>8281457Sure thing
>it's not cfg it's my (popping colors:4)
>>8281495I think quasarcake was part of the reason
why are they training text encoder
the naiggers mock us with their silence
why are they training
Is there a guide for adetailer anywhere?
why are they
>>8281497
>>8281500press checkbox
>>8281501why blurry?
>>8281504bruh, your base prompt has aoin are you okay?
lets leave a negative review highlighting the issues on the flatter colors and the meltier features
>>8281507fuck i left that in there. no wonder everything looked weird, thanks for catching that
this is what happens when you freeze the diffusion model and only train the text encoderthe embedding space deviates
>>8281504it really does look more /aco/
>>8281511wait they only trained TE?
>>8281512see >>8281507i fucked up
and where did that bring you? back to me (pony)
did they really train TE ONLY from 0.5?you're supposed to do the opposite though...
her ass is actually melting....
just wait for v-pred
>>8281517where in this thread did anyone say they only trained the TE
>new bake>colors get worse>anatomy is till hopelessly shit
>>8281520>>8281502but maybe euge meant something else
>>8281515I see
>>8281522he just said they are training the TE. there is no only in that sentence
>>8281524why would he say it like that then
>>8281526he's chinese
>>8281526ESL
>>8281518catbox?
>>8281521but /hdg/ told me anatomy on noob was as good or better than pony already and you're a shitposter/baiter//aco/raider/have a skill issue if you think otherwise?
just run it like this to figure out ;)
>>8281531correct. now stop samefagging
>>8281530https://files.catbox.moe/7fu29y.png
>it's the "everyone i don't agree with is a samefag" episode again
>>8281535thanks chief
>>8281505it made a copy of the full picture on top of the face
>>8281536and a cathagfaggot, yeah, you samefagging retard?
>>8281531trueyou seem upset about your massive skill issue
https://files.catbox.moe/vakiax.png
It's noover
>>8281380Yeah coherence is much better for me as well, had to adjust my prompts but that's expected. They've frozen the TE again and are going to train the unet further, than they'll do the v-pred bake.
>>8281542why does it feel like almost every one is worse
>>8281547ireading is way better at least
Link in the background....
>well at least now it knows smegma
>>8281542The right column drfinitely looks worse but is it more accurate to the artists?
>>8281558Something that's missing from these is prompt coherence. So might look worse in general but maybe they follow prompts closer in more complicated images
>>8281542shindol, ireadind and jun look better, kindamaybe need to test any newest character to see if the TE was worth training too
>>8281542What's with the baked in shadow pattern? Not as bad as it was on pony, but it's getting there
>>8281553I really like the idea of Zelda going to the dark side and becoming a sexy villain with dark clothes
>>8281542>>8281454https://files.catbox.moe/7im3q0.pngand some more. that's about all the artists i wanted to test>>8281558it definitely learned artists that it was weaker at before at the cost of artists it knew well being slightly worse (negligible imo)>>8281562shindol will never look that good because of the amount of garbage he has associated with him on danbooru
>>8281557https://files.catbox.moe/mxled2.pngSmegma sisters we are so back
>>8281567eh, it looks much worse than 0.5...
>>8281568i'm into way more degenerate shit than that and yet that image makes me want to vomit>>8281569i disagree, a lot of artists look closer to the actual artists, for better or worse
>>8281567ignore borscht for this, i fucked up the artist tag. supposed to be borscht \(artist\)
New noob checkpoint has much more knowledge when it comes to characters/styles/concepts/etc, and as >>8281571 said, styles are definitely fitting closer to actual artists. Style mixing is vastly improved for me as well. One thing to keep in mind is that they trained the TE which can be dramatic, you'll need to adjust your prompts and what not. Cant wait for the final release and than the v-pred bake, what a time to be alive :)
>>8281574kys furrycuck
>>8281574this reads like a falseflag
>>8281574what will v-pred bake do? Improve colours right? anything else?
>>8281542>>8281567>sugimori>borschtmaybe it's just the seed or due to the tuned TE but these oddly got a downgrade, the rest either look better to me or it's 50/50>>8281572>ignore borscht for this, i fucked up the artist tagah, then that may confirm the TE tuning. sugimori may need a more specific tag too.
>>8281578Yeah colors and dynamic range primarily, although some say it helps with details and coherence as well.
>>8281578colors (by a shit ton) and also should allow better compositional coherence at larger resolutions
>>8281578>anything else?Will bankrupt nai and will make astralite kill xirself
did a test grid of my ownstyles seem to have lost some accuracy and the gens look meltier. don't see much improvement in 0.75 for styles that were underfit in 0.5https://litter.catbox.moe/kh1yvk.png
when they said they trained the text encoder did they mention whether they used e621 tags? i'd assume they'd have to for stuff danbooru doesn't have tag for>>8281579>ah, then that may confirm the TE tuning. sugimori may need a more specific tag too.i just got the danbooru tag for them wrong, is allhttps://files.catbox.moe/1hrqh3.pngloli https://files.catbox.moe/2ut48y.png
>>8281580>>8281581>>8281582Thanks
Good moaning sepia-kuuuun~!Have you had your monitor fixed today?
>>8281586tiananmen and yd got some massive downgrades. Devastating loss for this thread
Why is it so blue
>>8281587sugimori looks fine now but something still seems wrong with borscht
>>8281586some are identical while others are flat out different.
>>8281592text encoder, ya know, that thing that parses your prompt's tokens into latents for the model to use in the diffusion step...
>>8281596yeah already saw post above talking about text encoder
Just released 1.0 vpred, who cares if people dont know how to switch to the dev branch of reforge or how it works on comfy.
>>8281598They are literally going to do this, how many times are you faggots going to bring this up.
>>8281594https://files.catbox.moe/mqksii.pngguess my tag autocomplete csv sheet was out of date. blue borscht seems to be better, but not quite. it seems to just not know borscht i suppose
>>8281598What does it matter? they'll only convert the sepiafied furryslop 1.0 model anyway. All you can get from vpred at that point is even more piss stained gens
>>8281599till i can vpred gen
>>8281598practice longsuffering
can you put artist tag firstmy borscht \(artist\) works fine
>>8281593exactly!
WHY AM I GAY?????
>>8281600>>8281604oh yeah wtf, you're putting artist tag last. legitimately should run an x/y and put the artist tag first. I'll do some testing on my own now tho.
Started using illustrious early last week, to get the artists styles better is it needed to any extra tags_ jsut the name has an effect but it-s not near as a good result as some anon posts I see posted.
>>8281606you love pony
>>8281606Because of Noob 0.75!!!
>>8281601is "sepiafied furryslop" in the room with us right now?
>>8281606>>8281611cathag faggot tier humor
>>8281608Use noob instead of base illustrious, and you'll want to adjust the weights on artist tags - especially when mixing. The effect can be dramatic. Negative prompt matters as well.
>>8281613is humor in the thread with us right now?
>>8281613funny because it's literally xim
>>8281615no, not really. why do you ask?
>>8281612Pony has broken these people
The fact that furries are happy about the latest epoch should tell you everything you need to know
>>8281613Who?
>>8281617because if funny was here then maybe cute would not be too far behind it
>>8281612>>8281618samefag
>>8281600tragic loss of style
Astralite's goons are raiding...
>>8281586It's really starting to get that pony soft shading that we all love
>>8281604>>8281607https://files.catbox.moe/ie8w3h.pngstill doesn't know the artist that well imo
So what's the consensus? We stay on .5 and hope that the full release gets better again?
>>8281622meds NOW
>>8281629make up your own mind
>>8281629sticking to 0.75 because lazy and maybe it has better prompt adherence
Throw feedback at laxhar and co, and make them take a look at the stilization loss.
>>8281629Don't listen to /hdg/
>>8281631i've never ever formed my own opinion on anything in my life. i can't do that
>>8281629using 0.75 because my style mix is much better
>>8281630>no argumentAs expected from a ponytroon
>>8281629I will do my own xy later and decide for myself
>>8281636then I curse you with using base pony, without loras, it's just better
>>8281636Tiktok generation?
>>8281635yeah listen to /b/. didn't you see the gens from their namefags earlier? fire..
>>8281636You've described this general perfectly sir.
>>8281631>>8281639based freethinkers
>>8281627blue broschat looks more accurate in the newer version desu
>>8281635thisit still amazes me how many promptlets are here putting artist tag last, etc.
I abandoned 0.75 after two gens turned out worsen than .5. Large enough sample size for me
>>8281648i just put it last for convenience
>>8281649should've stopped at step 5 of first gen
>>82816490.7 chuds? our response?
>>8281648It literally makes no difference. You're welcome to try it out.
>>8281649>>8281652Samefag
>>8281652My response is I don't really care what model people are using as long as they make aesthetically pleasing images and share them with me so that I can enjoy them as well.
>>8281654OMG..YOU are one of them...please don't talk to me again
>>8281654let's be honest there is a slight difference but it's negligible
>>8281656wtf is wrong with youget out
>>8281652killing myself after this flawless rebuke
>>8281656so anything besides pony. nice!
>>8281656sick fuck
>>8281656how dare you
>>8281627you still didn't put the artist tag first. the quality tags also tend to fuck with things a lot, probably more so due to the tuned TE now. I didn't bother upscaling but here, already looks a lot nicer https://files.catbox.moe/rasck9.png
btw if you notice any cunny artists have gotten worse on 0.75 it's because the compressed webp dataset LAX is using for danbooru cuts off gold posts like halfway through. make sure to say thank you to the noobai team for cutting corners, they have 32xH100 but can't download and filter an 8TB dataset!
noob sisters it's over! time to go back to pony!
why are you retards complaining about 0.75? it's so much better at horse and dog dicks!
>>8281666wtf I love .75 now
>>8281668proof?
>>8281666where is confirmation of their datasetangel already said their source for illustrious was not something on huggingface
>>8281666would gelbooru be better to train on?
>>8281673atfbooru would be
What was wrong with pony?
>>8281675everything
Time to check out of this general for another month, localkeks really do deserve nothing.
>>8281675schizos.
>>8281673gelbooru could certainly add to the dataset but obviously the tags would need to be converted to danbooru tags (there are slight differences)
>>8281675It's perfectly fine as long as you post the outputs to /aco/
>>8281672angel used a full scrape of danbooru, noob links to the specific danbooru scrape they used (the kohaku 4MP webp compressed on on HF), so you can download it and confirm for yourself.
>>8281675Garbage in garbage out
>>8281678please never come back
>>8281678holy shit he's leaving let's fucking go
>>8281672They're linked on the civitai page' - Danbooru (Pid: 1~7,600,039):https://huggingface.co/datasets/KBlueLeaf/danbooru2023-webp-4Mpixel- Danbooru (Pid > 7,600,039):https://huggingface.co/datasets/deepghs/danbooru_newest-webp-4Mpixel - E621 Data as of 2024-04-07 :https://huggingface.co/datasets/NebulaeWis/e621-2024-webp-4Mpixel 'As for whether they really do cut out half the Danbooru gold posts, I've no clue.
>>8281674FFS now I have this in my google search history
>>8281678good will sirs our response????
>>8281675The default style, but it's easy to fix with LoRAs and everything else about it is better than these half-baked alphas/betas.
just bake a lora
anyone know if there's an update to this danbooru prompt extension? https://github.com/EnsignMK/danbooru-prompt half of the prompts are a year old.
>>8281689>everything else about it is better than these half-baked alphas/betasthishilarious how this general is willing to sabotage itself just because pony author removed artist tags and children from the dataset
>>8281689>and everything else about it is better than these half-baked alphas/betas.Lol
>>8281689Ponyv6 is just a half baked version of v7. You should stick to almost full releases like noob v0.75 until pony training is completed
>>8281687are you american or something?
>>8281689i'm gonna play the game of shitposter or retard. this is a shitposter>>8281693this is also a shitposter
>>8281692First image is ages
>>8281689>HAVE to use loras to get anything fappable>everything else about it is betterkek
>>8281696worse...
>>8281682>>8281686Interesting, thanks. I will confirm for myself.
>>8281697wow no shit dude
>>8281701Aussiekek...
>>8281703yes shit.
where are the images!?
Why not train on r34 with a huge score cutoff, like 2k or so
>剛才測試了一下,0.5版在NSFW的表現上比新的0.75感覺好一點。不知道其他人覺得如何The chinaman has spoken
>>8281710good morning saar
Newbie question. Is there a way to zoom in the image on the img2img inpainting tab in reforged?
>>8281711It's over, 0.75sisters
They should train on devianart to achieve maximum smegma AND sepia effect.
Is this what they call gap moe
>>8281710What makes you think that people who vote on r34 images have good taste?
>>8281716No
>>8281716I thought they had to have a gap in their teeth
>>8281716gap moe is loli goatse
>>8281718Shit..
>>8281711based random chink
>>8281711noobsisters, our response??
>>8281614waiting for noob to be finished.
>>8281710>>8281683
>>8281608did you have a stroke halfway through this post
>>8281713It was ctrl/shift + scroll or something... Just switch to new forge if you want to inpaint a lot
>>8281665https://files.catbox.moe/tmmnyu.pngit doesn't really matter that much
>>8281150Can you please reupload? I like how it remind me of Disgaea design.
>>8281724good luck
how do i make my artist loras work less
>>8281728are you blind?
>>8281731Use pony
0.75 is better with eyes for certain artists
>>8281729just 4 u bwohttps://litter.catbox.moe/6jbxtn.webp
>>8281732please don't pretend like if i took away the legend that you'd be able to tell which was which
Bros, you're telling me that training a model for an additional 8 epochs (both unet and TE) causes things to change? I will NOT adjust any of my prompts to account for this.
>>8281738retard
Bros, you're telling me that change the RNG seed causes things to change? I will NOT adjust any of my prompts to account for this.
>>8281733i'd prefer for it to work less on illustriousmaybe i should enable min snr gamma
>>8281739No you are the one that is re*ard because I was being SARCASTIC
>>8281742sorry anon but you are retarded
>>8281742retard
>>82817450.75 really makes the blacks pop
>>8281745will he redeem the oval office?
>>8281745catbox?
>>8281745the face of civitai and /hdg/
>>8281746Ackchyually, groids seem to be blacker on 0.5
>>8281750proof?!?
>>8281745>didn't make filename an indian bastardization of his last namemissed opportunity
>>8281735Thanks
>>8281745SAAR
>>8281750you forgot bestiality tag
>>8281745the whitest male in the thread besides (me)
This is absolute peak (you) farming hour right now. You could post literally anything and have it get swamped with (you)'s. Act now! Post an image!
>>8281666>>8281702 (me)Do you know where the cutoff is? I'm combing through the dataset now and it looks like all of Gold isn't included, for both kblueleaf and deepghs. It might be Angel's full dump used in Illustrious carrying us currently.
>>8281745>vanesh.jpg
>>8281758I've been told the Kohaku scrape cuts off in October of last year. Which honestly shouldn't affect things as badly as the impact on some loli artists I've seen is.
i wish that training loras with these settings didn't take 3-4 hours, iterating on the settings sucks but basically any smaller batch size seems to produce worse results
>>8281446Yeah ran gens for 2 hours to just ballpark compare ones I did last night and the colors def look worse. Not sure if I'm getting better prompt adherence either or better knowledge but colors look worse imo.
>>8281762Have you tried having more vram?
>>8281764I'm not buying a fucking 4090 for $2k
>>8281762what gpu? i'm training sdxl loras at a batch size of 4 and with my settings it usually takes anywhere from 30 mins - 50 mins depending on step count
>>8281452>dick furThe furry def is seeping in now on the model. Worrisome.
>>8281446stop using noobslop
>>82817663090?
>>8281769Cope ponyshitter
Hello, I am very stupidCan someone who is smarter than me explain the difference between epsilon and vpred? I have no context for what these words mean
>>8281774wrong thread buddy
>>8281773but i'm a base illu chad
>>8281774grab the epsilon version and don't think about it too hard, rajeesh
>>8281774>epsilonShit colors>vpredGood colors
>>8281767i am training at batch size 3 but using gradient accumulation to bump that up to 18 and then doing 900-1000 steps>>8281764i've already downloaded some
>>8281779>batch size 3 but using gradient accumulation to bump that up to 18Uhh, that's a bit too much, no?
>>8281779>900-1000 steps at batch18anon your shit is absolutely FRYING unless you're doing like, fuck, I don't know, 15-20 artists? or something thereabouts.
>>8281779>i am training at batch size 3 but using gradient accumulation to bump that up to 18 and then doing 900-1000 stepsnigga. Why? You are essentially training 18k steps which is going to be utterly overkill for anything. Aim for 2-5k not 18k.
>>8281106I'm not shitposting though. The guy is actually insane and an absolute narcissistic faggot
>>8281774You’re definitely not stupid! "Epsilon" and "Vpred" can mean very different things depending on the context, so let’s break them down with some possible interpretations.In machine learning, especially in diffusion models, epsilon prediction (or ε-prediction) and v prediction (also known as velocity prediction) are two methods used for predicting and controlling noise in generated data.Epsilon Prediction (ε-prediction):-Epsilon, represented by the Greek letter ε, generally stands for noise in diffusion models.-In ε-prediction, the model learns to predict the noise component (ε) added at each step of the diffusion process. This noise is what distorts the data over time.-By predicting the noise, the model can denoise or reverse the process to bring the data back to a clean state during generation.V Prediction (Velocity Prediction):-In v-prediction, the model learns to predict the “velocity” (v) rather than the noise.-This velocity is a combination of the noise (ε) and the data itself. Mathematically, it can be seen as a balance between predicting the noise and the original data, which can improve stability and flexibility in some diffusion models.-V-prediction is often used to help balance the trade-off between noise and data recovery, which can lead to more efficient generation or improved quality in the model’s output.
>>8281784so sad. go cry about the persecution of the poor helpess avatarfags and namefags elsewhere
>>8281761Yeah, I'm not finding any Gold in Kohaku. Testing with random images from over 5 years ago such as ID 3725274 and it isn't in the dataset. It really must be Angel's full dump doing the heavy lifting.
>>8281787fuck off
>>8281787Thanks, chatGPT
>>8281791You're very welcome, Anon! :) Happy to help anytime.
Is there a way to make brush with lines on cheeks or it pretty much depends on artist styles?
>>8281781i don't think that there's any point for characters but it seems to actually matter for styles. batch size 15~ has been the cutoff for learning certain stylistic elements like color palettes or line thickness for whatever reason.>>8281782the main issue is just that it's fucking with character comprehension. it won't fry unless i jack up the LRs a ton.>>8281783unfortunately the ridiculous total step count actually seems necessary. i probably could increase the LR by 5x but that comes with a lot of downsides.
>>8281796Can you share your config?
>>8281796Post your settings. There's something seriously fucked up if you need batch 16 to learn a style...
0.75 is alright but somehow worse in consistency.
>>8281800The multiple views tag is giving me wildly different results than what I got on 0.5 but I also changed my artists around so it might just be that
>>8281800suzuyabox?
>>8281802i had to change my artist weight and style lora to get close to what i had on 0.5
>>8281745Vancej
my lolis can now fist themselves so this is a 0.75 win
>>8281807post the gen
>>8281804its not even suzyua which is the funny part.
>>8281800Touching the tenc probably made things a bit unstable. It should hopefully even out with more epochs if they froze it again, and then the vpred conversion is effectively continued training once the initial jank sorts itself out.
>eps done by early next month>v-pred bake confirmed by LAXvery cool
>>8281798>>8281799https://litter.catbox.moe/r50adz.jsonit's not necessary to learn the style, but it's seemingly necessary to learn it well. i've tested these settings on deal360, rhasta, xenoblade 3 screenshots and koikatsu screenshots and pretty much every lora trained with these looks noticeably more accurate at the cost of character comprehension
What's the best prompt placement for Noobai? 1girl, character, series, artists, quality tags, rest of tags?
>>8281810This is exactly what they are doing. TE is now frozen again and they are resuming training.
>>8281788Yeah, sad that you still haven't killed yourself yet
>>8281800what's the artist or mix?
>>8281815artistall elsequality tags
>>8281815>prompt placementplacebo
>>8281815quality,artist1girl
>>8281818(ikuyoan:0.65), (obj shep:0.75), (ohisashiburi:0.8), (ssambatea:0.65), (sakimichan:0.6), (crain1art:0.3) with https://civitai.com/models/825880?modelVersionId=948967 at 0.3
>>8281810>>8281816they trained both unet and te
>>8281815I just stick to NAI's>1girl, 1boy, character, series, artist, character features (breast size, hair, etc), clothes, pose, qualityslop
>>8281823Doesn't change anything said
>>8281825nevermind, i'm blind
>>8281812>fp8_baseWhy?
>>8281826she needs to take a nap
some common cunnymix artist comparisons between illu + 0.5 + 0.75:https://files.catbox.moe/oofa4d.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/b7oazu.pngborscht is oddly the only one that seems to have gotten worse, the others all look about the same if not better which is confounding me as to whether there's dataset jank going on
>>8281717>>8281725Thats why I said a huge cutoff, there is some artist here that dont have their stuff anywhere else (beside their twitter but fuck that)Also still better than e621
>>8281833i seriously don't understand why you guys insist on posting here, a board that explicitly bans this type of content instead of posting on /b/ along with your peers
>>8281829i don't have 24 gigs of vram
>>8281837The posters on /b/ have shit taste and I'm not fond of their circlejerk namefaggotry.
>>8281837cool, nobody cares, kys
>>8281839Try full bf16. You should be able to run at least batch=2 with 16gb of vram
They refuse to go to /b/ because they think they are better than that (they are not)
>>8281843i'm pretty sure that's less precise than fp8_base
They refuse to go to /aco/ because they think they are better than that (they are not)
>>8281833>more proof that noob is trashstop using that garbage
>>8281847>nogen
>/aco/ out of nowhere
are those people who refuse to go to /aco/ in the room with us right now?
>/b/ out of nowhere
>>8281850it's worse because 1/8 artists tested is weaker and the rest are the same or better? guess I'm going back to pony...
>>8281851>nogen
>>8281856you're blind sis
are those people who refuse to go to /b/ in the room with us right now?
we should all go back to pony
>>8281848Why do you think? bf16 is literally twice as wide as fp8.
I'm going back to 1.5
>random reForge dev_upstream commit made the UI lag like crazyit's over
>>8281866>he pulled
I wish my mind was in the room with us right now, but I appear to have lost it.
>>8281864Post proof
>>8281863because fp8_base is loading the unused sections of the base model at fp8 while the actual training is performed at fp32. bf16 loads the base model at bf16 or fp16 but also performs training at bf16.
>>8281870>"mixed_precision": "bf16"But you train at bf16 already.
>>8281817is everyone the same person to you schizo
why the fuck did they train the te? why would you murder the te with an entirely different tagging scheme just so the model learns garbage furry artists?
>>8281870>unused sectionsthey're used, just freezed. their precision still matters
>>8281872nice deflection
>>8281874They got an offer from kurumuz they couldn't refuse
>>8281866that's the beauty of git anon. roll back
>>8281874furries have alot of money, anime chuds are broke indians.
>>8281848This.>>8281863Stop spreading misinformation, retard. fp8 only loads base model weights in fp8, and all computations still happen in bf16/fp16/fp32. fp8 base weights and mixed precision is much more robust than full bf16.>>8281871https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers/main/perf_train_gpu_one#mixed-precision-training
>>8281877new 8k context text model???
Milkers, yummers
the only competent trainer is trapped in a country with insane laws, does not even have stable access to good gpus and is cucked by his retard company...
>>8281886Poor Astralite
well, you guys could always just fix up anything by hand haha
>>8281871according to kohaku you load the base model at bf16 and train at fp32. fp8_base switches that bf16 to fp8 and full bf16 training switches that fp32 to bf16. he implemented both bf16 training and fp8_base so i believe him>>8281875i think you should take this with a grain of salt, but the intel+nvidia team that made fp8 claimed that there isn't a huge difference in practical terms between fp8 and bf16 for these usage cases.
>>8281888alright this one got a chuckle out of me
>>8281889this, but unironically.chink pen tablets are REALLY fucking good now and pretty cheap. $60 gets you something of the quality that would've cost like $300 a decade ago.
>>8281886>does not even have stable access to good gpus literally every other baker besides lax would commit murder for access to a 16xa100 clusteralso calling angel competent is a stretch when all he did was not make retarded unforced errors (besides not pruning comics and scaling everything with lanczos)
increasing batch size on 0.75 is having a really negative effect towards my gen quality for whatever reason
0.75 is just fucked
>>8281900what ui are you using?
>>8281901I see no reason as to why you'd use it
>>8281903refrge
>>8281899angel is competent specifically because he didn't fall for retard mistakes and actually has some ML knowledge unlike 90% of local trainers. including comics was also a deliberate choice even if the results are questionable.
>>8281899yeah but from what ive read those a100 are 40gbthe chinese cant even be bothered to use non-recompressed datasets when they are right there on huggingface
Best CFG for Noob?
>>8281909try out apg
>>8281910Stop using 0.75 you're supposed to be complaining that it looks worse because you're getting skillchecked!!!
>>8281730two more weeks
>>8281910>broken condomholy fuck...
>>8281914what's... what's going on here then?
>>8281913>fucked up handsyeah, noob is getting shittier
>>8281917ponytroon
>waaah using negative prompt is too hard for me >_<
>Anyone I disagree with is a ponytroon
Nigga
>multiple limbs and more gachaback to 0.5 i guess.
what's the model being used in pic related?
>>8281926Agreed, this thread needs more groids
Do you add "game cg" to your prompt? I feel like it destroys styles.
back to pony we go guys... was fun while it lasted
>>8281928pony. you can tell because of how fucking boring, still, and muted the image is
>>8281928slop model
>>8281927>>8281931>>8281924samefag
>>8281924this but semi-ironically
>>8281928It's p*ny
>>8281928armpit reminds me of that orange model from back in the day, but probably not that
>>8281935medsfag
>>8281928GODLIKE PONYwe all should go back
>>8281928Autismmix
>>8281928anything v6
>>8281928Is this Pony?
>>8281928need OUR WIFE as a thicc milf
So, what exactly makes a gen /aco/?
>>8281928american model
>>8281946pony = /aco/
>>8281946if it's shitty slop it's /aco/
>>8281946a general feeling of inferior western art
>>8281949So, if I use westoid artists in noob it won't be /aco/?
>>8281928this overly obese kind of woman makes me want to puke or maybe it's because is pony idk
>>8281955it's pony
>>8281946Anything that's not cunny
>>8281954Western artists can still draw hentai
>>8281958no
>>8281686>recognizes earliest Zenless chars>doesn't recognizes Burnice White. Damn, what's the odd she'll appear in 1.0?
iirc born-to-die its western and i like the cunnies he draws. as long as its cunny they are eastern to me
>>8281946something like this
>>8281965holy fuck lmfao
Only skillets hate on Pony
>>8281915Sadly it seems to still be pretty gacha
im liking 0.75, rebaked lora on it
>>8281965Damn, imagine genning some like this at 3am, I'd shit myself
Request anchor
so-called skilluds >>8281928
>>8281963he's a mex*c*n and it's obvious by how disgustingly western his style is
wtf Noob 0.75 made this
>>8281972should've done it later but lmao thanks
>>8281970can you do a fat groid gigachad?
>>8281800same seed
>>8281975It's over noobbros, /aco/ won
>>8281928It's NAI
>>8281970how romantic
>>82819780.5 that is
>>8281975lmao based
>>8281962Probably not that high, get a dataset ready and bake a lora for her on the v-pred version when it drops, everything else is irrelevant
>>8281982
>>8281972adequate thread
>>8281975 3girls, anatomical nonsense,what,realistic, sex, huge breasts,this prompt is giving me aco in noob 0.75, noob is ruined
>>8281800It's my understanding that training the TE will make things "wild", and further training with the TE frozen will help make things more consistent. Will have to see what the final version is like.
>>8281968Esl-kun...
blue blorscht seems fine to me in this new version, idk what you guys are doing with your prompts. fingers seems worse tho. https://files.catbox.moe/r31ucc.png>>8281974it's pretty similar to wadawau tho. i don't know what are you talking about. looks cute and funny enough to me
>>8281989It really is over for pony, realism jeets love this shit...
>>8281992>fingers seem worseyep, my only concern
>>8281991You're the real ESL
>>8281993indeed
>>8281993shut the fuck up about pony dumbass, nobody has given a shit about that model in weeks
>>8281998People are afraid of mentioning pony because it beats their new fotm noob hands down
>>8281978
>noob 'cord has been invaded by furriesbros...
>>8281987>handsjesas
>>8282001it's over, the east has fallenbillions must /aco/
>>8281998What? Anon, literally everyone outside of this shithole is on pony and will stay on pony for a while until some fully baked model is released. Half-assed attempts are admirable but it's not nearly enough to dethrone pony, especially considering its mature lora ecosystem.
>>8282002It's v0.75
https://files.catbox.moe/5bijpw.png
>>8282005Stale bait
>>8282005>especially considering its mature lora ecosystem.this is important, it will take months for noob models to catch up
anyone feel like eyes are generally worse in 0.75?
>>8282011Artist mixes are different. I'm getting worse eyes on some of my older mixes but then better on others. I'm just having to retweak weight values all over again
>>8282011it's e621
so true i don't think someone will bake my favorite worm navel infestation lora for noob any time soon...
>>8282011Feels like randomSome artists fare better in 0.75>>8281734
how can i make the dick uglier and more disgusting? beside smegma
>>8281977look what you made me do
>>8282011it's webp
>>8282016Dark-skinned male
>>8282016make a lora
>>8282017I look like this
>>8282017>you will never be this happy...bros?
>>8282017we are so back
>>8282011Just wait for a 1.0. I have absolutely no idea why you people are so desperate and jumping onto half-finished models.
>>8282017Why is he zesty
>>8282017>>>/b/ estiality
>>8282017you're practically prompting bara there, you fag
>>8282024It's fun to experiment. It's not like downloading 0.75 makes all the other versions of Illustrious I have explode in my computer or something
>>8282024sorry
I don't get the ponyhate. The model is literally perfect
>>8282029you're responding to a shitposter
>>8282028the autotagger did give most of the chad images the bara tag
>>8282031let's discuss how good it is further on /aco/
Base pony is all you need. Perfectly balanced dataset, baked ethically, and full lora support.
>>8282024we are just giving them feedback bro, calm down. they're probably lurking here
>>8282034stfu shitposter
>>8282031perfect? no. but when v6 came out, no model could even do genitals right. it was definitely great (still is), but better models will always come out
>>8282032I suppose so, apologies as it is getting difficult to tell.
>>8282035A bit too obvious, anon
Why the fuck did they include artist tags with Noob? Aren't they worried about getting sued? MAKES ME SICK!
>uhh if you like pony you must be BAITING
>>8282042tiananmen bingqilin is going to fucking tankmen the shit out of them when he finds out
>>8282043You're allowed to like pony on /aco/
>>8282042I'll get you a bucket
please explain how pony is /aco/ without sounding mad
>>828204880% of its dataset is western art
>>8282048No
>>8282049just bake a lora>>8282050>no argument
bros... Illu can do farts with "full frontal"its over..
Okay but the real question. Is 0.5 or 0.75 better at feet?
>>8282048FIRST OF ALL, EIGHTY FUCKING PERCENT of the dat is WESTERN TRASH.MOST furries are american. HUGE red flag you fucking idiot.Lastly I will say this for the LAST TIME. PONY IS ACO!!! and if you don't agree then I am NOT gonna explain again
>>8282053you're telling me we don't need a fart lora? someone tell fart lora anon...
>>8282048it's worse than /aco/, there are plenty of good western artists but pony is deep fried so badly that no amount of style loras fully unstick its fucked up base style
>>8282052>just bake a loraPony stench is so strong it just seeps into everything
>>8282049>>8282050>>8282055>>8282058>nogen
i love you, fucking retards...
>>8280495>>8280492>>8280488>>8280520>>8280525Old but could I request for box?
pony is /mlp/, not even the futafags on /d/ and /aco/ want it
now he's samefagging
>>8282060>nogen
>>8282055Your opinion is worthless, noodlekek
bless the 5 and 4 fingers tags
>>8282061Sounds gay, you must be a pedo
>>8282062honjou raita, booba, sequins
>>8282067I have yet to see the xy where retarded e621 tags make an anime gen better
>>8282068bullseye
>>8281928damn, that's hot. what Lora is this?
what the fuck is a "noodlekek"? is the guy screeching about this mythical being just schizophrenic?
you'd better start baking on .75 because they're going to fry the te
All the people giving advice and posting to noob discord are furries who want noob to be a furry model It's fucking over, at this rate they might as well have trained 100% e621 75% is already melty and piss colored Yiff in fucking hell
Astralite was right, jeets really are incapable of using a model that doesn't have score tags/overfitting.
>just use 10 loras at the same to make it looks barely eastern bro! it's that easy.
>>8282062jesus christ man...
>>8282073It's you
>>8282073yes
>>8282074Are you retarded? They froze the TE and are now training the unet.
You guys talk about Noob but not so much about Illustrious, isn't Illu like better for anime?
>>8282073>>8282080samefagging noodleschizo
>>8282078what...
>>8282085It's 0.1 and will never be finished, forget about it
>>8282070guess you'll have to experiment on your own
>>8282081>horse shaped skull0.75bros...
So, which one should I download? Is vpred the best? Or early access version even?
>>8282091yep
>>8282091it's pony
>>8282093You just download pony
The fact that there's this much seething about Noob means it's getting attention.
>>82820930.5
is there a list of the noobai artists it knows?
>>82820930.5 or 0.75 for now
>>8282091It's not that elongated..damnit
>>8282099We just had our dreams for a good anime model shattered. Allow us some seethe
>>8282095nice lily, can i hab box?
Very organic noob posts
She's about to take the senior bracer exam
>>8282099Can you imagine if the people baking noob didn't have a great QQ wall? That's the only reason they're actually making progress with baking, instead of listening to 100 different retarded suggestions.
>>8282103got any other angles? I like it except for that part
>>8282104just use 0.5
>>8282091KEKAROOOPony won
>more gacha rolls for 0.75owari daro ga
Haven't seen the general this active since pony released. What's going on here? A new model?
>>8282107What tags do you use to get face grinding against dick like that?
>>8282108ThisLet Laxhar do their job, if their final vision ends up being shit the free market will fix it
>>8282110I will but it's another rugpull like the illu release.
>>8282114>What's going on here?Shitposting
>>8282113speak american, retard
>>8282113Expected since they trained the TE and have yet to do further training. Should stabilize with 1.0
>>8282119>speak american, retardI love NTR
>>8282115https://files.catbox.moe/0jh9da.png
>>8282119nyo
>>8282105not exactly that image but just remove the irrelevant tagshttps://files.catbox.moe/st5n4h.png
SLOW THE FUCK DOWN
>>8282125based ponyCHAD
>>8282119これは日本語の日本のウェブサイトです
>>8282123PONY!!!
>>8282054Just doing random gens with no touch ups or even adetailer they look roughly the same, or at least I haven't noticed any massive quality leaps in my limited work so far
e621 is a blight and furries were a mistake
>>8282107>>8282122cute
>namefags left>thread went to shitcurious
>>8282125based, never listen to shillspony is king
>>8282125wtfff
>>8282109I do not but the prompt metadata should be in there. Was just testing some 0.5 mixes out to see how much they changed
>>8282133Better than EPIC desu
FINALLY SOME GOOD PONY GENSAND IT ONLY TOOK TWO LORAS
Euge please save us...
>>8282133That's me and I was using it as an example as to how furries will pretty much cause the model to be fried before they stabilize
BWHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
That's it, I'm going to bake 20 pony loras to make it look like anime
>>8282126>>8282129>>8282136>>8282141Too high effort for this shithole
>>8282146make that 40
>glossy melting 3d shit>effortkek
>just install quadrillion loras bro
https://files.catbox.moe/kex2z0.pngit's not even that bad but etna is banned apparently so im not risking it
>>8282133some furries are ok tbqh, like dagasi cunny furries. seems like i can stomach almost any fetish as long as cunny is involved
>>8282125
>>8282145HAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!
>>8282152>nometa
>>8282153>some furries are ok tbqhMcfucking kill yourself
>>8282155hey what's the joke
>>8282156it's pony
>>8282152reeks of /aco/ shit
>>8282155SKIBIDI BIDEN RIZZ BABY GRONK SKRRRT HAWK TUAH ONG NO CAP FR
>>8282159it's not, because it's actually aesthetically pleasing
>flat pedo style>IT'S ANIME!!!!
>>8281497for better character understanding, noobai 0.5 doesnt know recent characters/have problem with them
>>8282160it's noob so it cant be /aco/
>>8282157come on man, you look at this cunnies https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=dagashi_%28daga2626%29+ and you tell me you don't want to fuck them?
>>8282163this but unironically
>>8282154womp womp
>0.75 is way less anime, more realistic and more sepiathank you lax, very cool
>>8282166It's a slippery slope, today you're fapping to this shit, tomorrow you're fucking your family dog
>>8282166no
>>8282169>average /hdg/ prompt
>>8282158Noob and Pony walk into a bar, the bartender asks what they want, both of them say Furry please. The bartend shouts GET OUT, we don't take kindly to your kind. This is a christian bar.Kindly go to the bar across the road called Aco
>>8282169very scientific test sar
>>8282169On the scale from 0 to 10, how over it is?
>saa-ACK
>>8282169That literally looks like that 'anime girl-pony anime girl' kek
>>8282175It's not over until we hit 1.0, but it is looking pretty grim and it's only going to get worse if they continue training on e621
>>8282175gyattillion going back to pony
>>8282169did they train the unet at the same time as the text encoder? if not, then this could explain it. anyway, I'd wait for the next checkpoint with an updated unet (since, you know, that's what generated the actual image)
>>8282169It's over
>>8281904>>8281901Play with it some more think I'll go back to 0.5 though. Colors are def flatter
>everyone says pony v7 will be shit>noob comes out with .75>both have 7's in them
>>8282169now why would you go around the internet and lie.
Well... back to illu, it seems
Back to 1.1 I guess
>>82821731st bar is animagine
>>8282187why is it melting
>>8282168
back to cstaber, i guess
>>8282169Cant replicate this
Danbooru dataset on Huggingface is in progress of being updated with Gold level posts now. L-A-X will be informed when this has been completed. You're welcome.
>>8282195WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK IF TRUE
i finally decided to put an account on catbox for albums. how the fuck do i select the files?
>>8282169Danbooru has a decent amount of cosplay images and there's no aesthetic finetuning, not surprising that it would randomly spit this out with a prompt that has nothing else in it other than "1girl"
>>8282195>Gold level postsRemind me, isn't that just pedoshit?
Why can't we have an anime checkpoint without 3dpg and furfags ruining it. China was supposed to be safe from this taint but they listened to the west. I'm so fucking tired..
>>8282200that's called anime, retard
>>8282195please be real
>>8282201>China was supposed to be safe from this taint but they listened to the west.Furfags are literally everywhere, anon
>>8282200It's not even just pedoshit it's bad quality pedoshit
>>8282200It isFinal model will be ugly furry and pedoshit. Worst of both worlds
>>8282201you already have animagine, chuddie
>>8282195hope its not gonna take more than a week....
>>8282207Like that underbaked naiv1 slop is acceptable to anyone
>>8282207What the fuck is animagine
>>8282191same seed 0.5, same tags, probably because theres no quality tags added so it looks melted
>>8282209but i thought you wanted anime model incapable of nsfw?
>>8282210Trash
>>8282212I want an anime model that doesn't produce furshit with NSFW you faggot
>>8282195sorry only webp allowed
>>8282211that looks way better thoughbeit just look at the amount of detail that's lost in between 0.5 and 0.75 >>8282187
>>8282214kurumuz has a solution for you
>>8282214You can always train your own model sir
sigh, back to NAI
>>82822180.5 unironically looks like aom slop
>>8282187>>8282211The top two look better in 0.75 but the bottom two look better in 0.5
>>8282220The moment when the shills start using "lol bro if you don't like the model just make it yourself or train a lora" you just know it's over
>>8282198got ithttps://catbox.moe/c/lxv42p
>>8282076
Welp, back to /ic/ I guess
It all comes to NAI
>>82822240.75 looks generally more coherent.
fart anon hereIllu and noob can't do farts, liars
/ic/ raid again???!!!!
>>8282205>>8282206maybe you faggots will finally go to /b/ or /aco/ to enjoy pony paradise
guys is this normal? full autism 5 day work for 1 gen?https://files.catbox.moe/wc58p3.pngbig image https://files.catbox.moe/51evwq.jpg
>>8282233MLP is furry pedoshit. I welcome your kin in no medium
>>8282234What the fuck is that
>>8282234>5 days for thisLol, what a fucking waste of time
>>8282235>MLP is furry pedoshit.you'd fit right in then. why are you still here
>>8282236open eyes
Please leave this thread so I can post my noob gens alone in peace
>>8282235truer words have never been spoken
>>8282192
still on noob v-pred, seems eps is not worth changing for.
>ctrl+f pony>84 resultsdid v7 finally finish?
>>8282246yep, here you go https://civitai.com/models/833294
>>8282246last time the dev was captioning his dataset. not sure where he's at though
>>8282231 (Me)wait, it works with noob>https://files.catbox.moe/cmfbsh.png
>1girl, standing, sundress, straw hat, looking at viewerIt doesn't get better than this
Unfortunately, if 3d is placed in the negatives, vectorscope doesn't work on most models and the lighting is the same bright anime shading for every single piece.
>>8282243She's flat af in rl
>>8282253peak...
turns out EPIC is more based than this shithole general
>>8282255and?
>>8282258maybe we have been to harsh on EPIC
>>8282263>totoo
I'm happy e621 was included because of how much it makes this general seethe.
>1girl, solosovl...
I love when a model gets worse with more training
looks like it's learning new characters but it does mix them in some degree. maybe i shouldn't use the game tag https://files.catbox.moe/l1s9ue.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/wqd23e.png
>>8282270I really hate this image
>>8282268just gotta prompt engineer better bro
>>8282272it's nai
>>8282268if bottom is 0.75 for sure it looks worse (no idea if it's more like the original character)
>>8282270PonyGAWDS
>>8282269It's still bad at basic shit, like QY's hair
>>8282270I really like this image
>>8282255shes also fat, heres the proof.
>>8282251abundance of sexy concepts is the advantage of e621 dataset over models relying just on danbooru
>>8282275left 0.5 right 0.75
>>8282279it's pony
>>8282270NAIbros our response?
noob can now generate fisting!
>>8282285prove it
>>8282269illu bros, we won
>>8282272>nogen
>>8282275>>8282282top row 0.5 and 0.75bottom row 0.75 and 0.5I wanted to throw you fellas on for a loopon 0.75 colors are worse, less details (look at hair, and I prompted for body freckles which are only visible on 0.5), and worse cocks and tits
Why do people act like they're actually entitled to have a better model?
>>8282169owari da
Pony gave you so much possibilities you ungrateful fucks
>>8282293no way...give metadata
>>8282293>no hash for the right one
NOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANNA GO BACK TO PONY
>>8282292Because I am? What are you gonna do about it?
>>8282294Truer words have never been said
>>8282141Great series of pics.>>8282148The hero we don't deserve...
Reminder that any effort posters left still use Pony
>>8282299Ask you what makes you entitled to have a better model. Why do you deserve better?
This shitposting is getting a bit too ridiculous, let's tone it down a bit
>>8282192she looks a lot better without the saggy breasts dude
>>8282310holy low test fag
>furries who actually know ML are shitting on civit jeets in the 'noob cordkek
>>8282292this, as always uppity weeb neckbeards claim the right to anime model instead of sharing it with our friends from furry and aco communities
>>8282309>shitposting>>8282310>>>/b/
>>8282295https://files.catbox.moe/xfmar5.png>>8282297Forge hasn't updated it, here after relaunch https://files.catbox.moe/9s6s1s.png
im making base gens in 0.5 and inpainting in 0.75the jews fear the resourceful
>>8282319>1girl, soloAHAAHAHAHAHA NO WONDER IT'S SHITRetard
>>8282319it's so over...
>If you like Pony you should go to /a-AAAAACK
You niggers will crawl back when v7 released...
>>8282327Soulless
>>8282270soul>>8282327soulless
So, uh, how much would it cost to convert 0.5 to vpred?>inb4 about tree fiddy
>>8282324>If you like Pony you should -AAAAACKFtfy
>>8282327cringe
>>8282319LOLIllu smooth won
>>8282302same prompt? definitely looks like a trend
>>8282312>>8282318>>>/trash/sdg
>>8282332About free tiddy
>>8282332For SD2 it took around 2-3k iters of the same batch to adapt the new noise schedule and objective.So probably x1.5-2 for XL?
>>8282332Euges conversion was about 150$
>/tra-AAAACK
>>8282332What the fuck does v-pred mean? Isn't 0.5 already that? It says pred in name? What does making it v-pred do?
>>8282308I just DO. Though I'm quite satisfied with my current shitmix so better models are really more of a bonus than anything
>>8282345Lurk more, faggot
>>8282302jesus christ just look at the colors of 0.75
>>8282347I have lurked, just haven't seen anyone explain what v-pred is, and I'm not gonna go back and look at every single previous comment.Only seen memes like picrel and people saying they want v-pred and there's nothing in OP about it.
>>8282346I ONLY WANT A RESPONSE FROM SOMEONE WITH AN ACTUAL SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT NOT SOME LARPER WHO IS PRETENDING TO BE ENTITLED
>>8282351kill yourself retard
It's over sepiaslop won
>>8282352Only larpers in this thread I'm afraid
>>8282332just wait a couple of weeks and they'll do it for you?
>>8282353>2 remaining braincells only capable of ad hominemI feel like you might be the retard here.
>>8282352Most shitposters are disingenuous. If you want to see real entitlement then go to the Civitai comment section and ask those retards.
Pony didn't even participate, it's that good
>>8282357>just wait a couple of weeks for them to convert a shitty model full of sepiafied furry cock
>>8282363see >>8281612
which one of you is this
>>8282351vpred means better color thats all you need to know
>>8282360>1 remaining braincell incapable of googling stuffkill yourself presto
>>8282348>0.750.5 already was fucked as for the colorsbut hdg hogs deserve it, so i'm happy
>>8282366it's nai
>>8282366a smegma chad
>>8282351read NAI paper, explains supporting v-pred in order to support ztsnr. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.15997what >>8282367 said is the extreme tl;dralso I admit that pic gets me to laugh every time but I wouldn't necessarily compare to the released v-pred test currently, it's very underbaked.
making dohttps://files.catbox.moe/wy4pwv.jpg
>>>/b/
>>8282351so vpred makes my bitches vp...RED? kinda weird I don't know if I want that in all my gens so I'll be expressing my disapproval on civitai.
>8282377back to based64?
>anime prompters getting exposed and they can only cope by creating conspiracy theories that the furry data is at fault and not their horrendous prompting, there is literally no reason for pic related to output anything remarkable, if it does, that's the model just shoving shit into your gen you didn't ask for. fucking learn how to prompt. is the colors not saturated enough? fucking negative greyscale/monochrome/sepiause your fucking brains
>>8282377the cock just lost half of its girth at the tip?
>>8282382Furries have always been better at prompting, no surprise there.
>>8282310homosexual
>>8282382forgot image
>>8282367I don't see an issue with the colors in 0.5 or 0.75 and you could always just apply some quick filter to boost/lower contrast or whatever.>>8282370>I don't have time to do anything else than shitpost>kill yourselfAfter you.>>8282375Based decent human being. Thanks for the link
>>8282384almost naizuri, it's just snug
>>8282383spooky...
>>8282389>waawawaaa spoonfeed mealso>just apply some quick filter to boost/lower contrast or whatever.you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about, dont even bother giving your worthless opinion
so people just dont get it the goal of this finetune (0.75) was to introduce new chracters and artists since base illust is trained on data from 2021 danbooru....
>>8282393>dont even bother giving your worthless opinionLikewise, retard-kun
>>8282389>you could always just apply some quick filter to boost/lower contrast or whatever.Fucking rope you worthless freetard coper. It's a miracle we even got noob finetunes at all with community full of inpaintard lorasissies like you.
>>8282394Illust was trained on danbooru2023.
>>8282394>trained on data from 2021 danbooruHow the fuck am I able to get characters that didn't even exist back then?
>>8282393>>8282397samefag
>>8282394illustrious was trained up til march 2024, retard
0.75 bros, we lost.
Freetards are so funny
>noodletroon still samefagging
>1279 / 188can we tone down with the shitpost just a little please?
https://files.catbox.moe/97ao2b.png
>>8282407Nyo :3
>>8282407Only if you ack yourself
I dream of 2k posts
>>8282407hmmmmmmmmmmmm nyo
fuck off to /b/
>>8282407a new version of a model just released, discussion is warranted
>0.5 - Decent but not finished>Train 0.75 now with TE training >Pony slop seeps in Hope you guys got your datasets ready then. The only thing I learned from Pony is to stack LoRAs
0.5 is the last good model we're getting.Screenshot this.
Noob did an irreparable damage to this thread
>>8282419This but pony
Why is it so ESL?
it's nai
>>8282419noob is healing this thread
>>8282421J-word thread saar, do not redeem
This would be a great time to drop v4 :)
>>8282383Xiaoyu
newfags
>look at the noob discord>go into nsfw>its all furries posting their trash artyeah im thinking we're not getting that amazing model.
all this doompostinglocal is eating damn good these dayshaving more fun near enough every day and it just keeps getting betterthese grapes aren't nearly as sour as anon assured me they would be, hell I'd say they're pretty sweet.
I can smell EPIC and his extended family posting
>look at the pony discord>go into nsfw>its all anime posting their based art
>>8282425Imagine the shitposting that would happen if Pony V7, NAI V4, Illustrious V1/2 and SD4 dropped at the same time
>>8282429nice pony gen
>>8282401thats your cope?pathetic
>>8282428it really is insane how much furry shit there is on lax's servereuge's is so much more comfy
>>82824252 more weeks sir (for NAI-XL 1.0)
>>8282436sametroon
>>8282432Kino
>>8281548gato box
>>8282429Yeah this general is miserable, I've been cooming nonstop.
>>8282432this is how we'd reach 3k
Noting more pathetic than a samefag :)
>>8282444Not just 3k, but 3k and 0 images
>>8282385Atagobox?
How young is too young for /h/? Every pokegirl would be underage. Both Asuka and Rei would be underage. Flat girls like Fischl would be underage. Where is the line drawn?
1girl, solo, brown hair, low twintails, pigtails, yellow eyes, head tilt, \:|, pinafore, red dress, short sleeves, outdoors, sittingNegative prompt: worst quality, jpeg artifacts, multiple views, 4koma, bad anatomy, bad hands, chibi inset, watermark
Fuck, no wonder jordachs server felt so empty the last couple weeks. All his orbiters switched teams and are now brainwashing the chinks
>>8282448>Where is the line drawn?Wherever the fuck you want, stop worrying about fictional girls that don't give a shit about you.
>>8282450it's acover
>>8282450Man i'm appreciating 0.5 even more
>>8282429nah, people are just shitposting, that's normal here, i do it from time to time. i've also been having so much fun with noob. i barely have time to play games anymore, everything I do is prompt.
>>8282448>Where is the line drawn?If it looks like an elementary schooler it's too young
>>8282447https://files.catbox.moe/xocwd6.png
>>8282432then people would actually be posting images
>>8282457Thanks bro
>>8282450It's 0.75ver
>>8282454
>>8282450it's never been more over, how the FUCK is illustrious better than 0.75
>try tagging artist in noobai>get like 5 different artists for each picWhat's going on over here? I refuse to believe this shitass model doesn't know koto inari.
>>8282462>how the FUCK is illustrious better than 0.75Sepiafied furry asshole is leaking in
>>8282463TE is fucked up
>>8282461>use model trained on both furry and hentai instead of pure hentai>don't prompt for artist that do pure hentai>don't neg prompt furry>complain about getting furry
>>8282465So I actually just have to use a style lora or else it won't get it? That's fucked.Does illustrious also suffer from this?
>>8282462>how the FUCK anime model is better at anime
>>8282467mr to this post
>>8281326looks sick
>>8282468>Does illustrious also suffer from this?No
Noob was so close, anons made really good gens with it.
>>8282448you can post whatever you want as long as you know how to hide her chest and don't make them too small.
>>8282450Have you tried with "muted color, pale color, low contrast" in negatives? Does that help improve colors?
Apologize to furrybros RIGHT FUCKING NOW
Are we ever getting new illustrious versions?
>>8282477No
>>8282477Yes
No
>>8282477Maybe
>>8282476YIFF IN HELL FAGGOT
Do I gotta train with vpred for illustrious?
>>8282477yes
>>8282477>>8282478>>8282479>>8282482samefag (all me btw)
>>8282470so, not only furry but they also added roasties?
>>8282477Angel unironically has to come and save us, AGAINThe chinks have fallen prey to the furries
As a newfag there are a lot of technical words that i want to ask about but it would take me dozens of posts./hdg/ glossary guide when?
I can't wait for the highlights. The anticipation is killing me
>>8282487Yes, they also added 3dcg shit
>>8282487They added the whole e621
>>8282491Please bros, just 100 more images
>>8282485For me, it'sleftrightrightleft
It's over1girl, soloworst quality, low quality, lowres
>>8282492sadly they did, Why? I dont know.
>>8282499nothing in this image confirms that
just take the iter comp pill
>>8282498Jesus Christ, 0.5 was on the right and soulful track.
>>8282499no they didnt add cosplay its just e6 and danbooru, try negetaing photorealistic,3d etc when genning 2d stuff.
>>8282498>>8282076
>>8282500theres plenty of examples in this thread anon.
>>8282493Doubt. It takes literal ages to download all of E621 due to their limits and even then you'll be missing about 1/10th due to takedowns that has happened over time, missing a bunch of cool artists.
>>8282498Overdesigned, soul, soullessWe almost had it
>>8282508they used the scrape that's on HF, it's in the model description retard
>>8282508>It takes literal ages to download all of E621Are you retarded or something?https://huggingface.co/datasets/NebulaeWis/e621-2024-webp-4Mpixel
>>8282507nothing does, they have linked dataset on the hf/civit model page...
Never in the history of so back has it ever been more over
Another example with Euler a, 25 steps.They probably ruined it training on a bad dataset with plenty of cosplay shoot.
>Just when you thought you would get off Pony's clutches
are they considering going back to 0.5 and continue training without te? new characters and styles are not worth the sepia and acoslop
>>8282512>WEBP compressed shit instead of originalAhahahahaYou're the retard here."Added the whole e621" means nothing if it's just compressed garbage
>>8282498>>82825170.75 looks the best in both of these examples
it was me, I dumped my cosplay/jav folder on their cluster...
>>8282518oh no my illus, noob 0.5, and noob vpred models just disappeared off my hard drive! is this the power of pony???
>>8282523Soon...
>>8282517Damn, this would be a real problem if I only prompted "1girl".
>>8282520They trained the entire model on webp datasets
>>8282519There would be no problem with te training if they ditched the e621, realism and whatever other shit the jeets begged them to add
Protest...make your loras on 0.5
instead of just doing "1girl" do something like "1girl, 1boy, sex" and see what that returns
>>8282523>is this the power of pony???Yes, v7 will delete all your models other than pony and v8 will materialize a fur suit in your closet
>>8282387>>>/e/edg
1girl, standing stans rise up. It's time to return to aom.
>>8282532Or better "2boys, sex"
>>8282527yeah it's a little concerning but this honestly just reminds me of people complaining about illus for not outputting good gens with trash prompts
>>8282530e621 was fine for 0.5, made sex and genital knowledge better, but 0.75 was a mistake
>>8282531Surprisingly, my illu loras still work well on both 0.5 and 0.75
YOU VIL TAKE ZE KNOT AND YOU VIL LIKE IT
>>8282541me on the upper right
>>8282538Truly wondrous that people don't want to waste 100 tokens and another 75 in negatives just to stop the model from outputting tiggerXwinnie barasmegmagangbang
>>8282542that shouldn't really be surprising.
>>8282527>>8282532
>>8282525negative:3dcg, photorealistic,photorealism,realistic,3di am convinced some people just are just natural slop generators
>>8282540>e621 was fine for 0.5,they didn't train the te back then and the model could cherrypick the useful info from the e621 stuff
>>8282545sounds like a skill issue
>>8282547damn, it does sex worse than illustrious even
>>8282550>sansgen
>>8282549yes that's why I said maybe training 0.5 further without te could be a good idea?
>>8282547Shit in 0.75 reminds me of that wikipedia porn, lol
>>8282552no.
>>8282548ohnonononono
0.5 already had all of the e621 dataset in it, you fucking idiotsI'm not saying I don't get the panic but I for one can confirm accuracy has improved for anime characters with fewer than 500 pics on danbooru so I appreciate them experimenting with the TE. Wait for the unet to catch up in the full bake and THEN cry and seethe and shit your pants if you really have toor keep dooming and shitting up the thread now I guess, knock yourselves out
>finally get local models that have built-in artist knowledge>complain that you have to use artist tokenswhy even bother switching to illust derived models instead of just using pony at this point?
>>8282559>no genogey sars
>>8282559Relax, faggot, we're just funposting
>>8225322
>>8282561Literally lmfao
>>8282561Artist styles fucked up too
>>8282559you're 100% right but unfortunately people are just addicted to shitposting
Is the plan still to convert the finalized eps-pred model to v-pred or are they starting the bake over from scratch to make the v-pred version?
>>8282548
>>8282570Where'd the color go?
>>8282548>just do what you did in pony, but for noob.
>>8282572All for the v7
>>8282572they're saving it up for the v-pred iteration.
>>8282572It got sepia'd.
>>8282570looped back around to base kohaku
>>8282570improved now?
>>8282547idk if you're being retarded on purpose but these are not showing what you think it's showing. You need to have an artist specified and you need to have the negs that they say you need.
>Civitai page getting flooded with negative reviewsMaybe lax will react and there's still hope
I am starting to get weird lowres blurry stuff for whatever reason, but only on like one out of five pics. I'm not doing any upscaling or anything like that, but then again I also wasn't doing that for 0.5 either and I don't remember getting stuff like this
>>8282548that looks like shit?
THE PONYFICATION OF NOOB
>eps gets the knot before lax corrects for vpredfeels good
>>8282572vored
>>8282583ofc it does, how do you expect 1girl solo to be like? this isnt overfit 1.5 finetune
>>8282570garish eyesore vs savory aesthetic
Since Noob is just Kohaku with extra steps, what'll eventually be a good shitmix for Illustrious?
illustrious wasnt a mistake, but a promise, noob is a mistake.
>my legs
>>8282593cute jinshi
>>8282593Do changli next
noob left illustrious silvermoon rightwhat am i missing here
>>8282570
stop complaining chuds!
>>8282600Hey, EPIC is finally right about something.
>>8282599Where did the colors go
>>8282600>>8282602Sure let's put something like a scoring prompt.
>>8282604what do you think>masterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdresare
>>8282599at least asanagi looks shitty as always on all models
>>8282599man so 0.75 looks worse everytime and also has worse colors.It's just over, even after a "1.0" probably the vpred will have also the same issues.I guess we will have to live with eps 0.5/vpred test version.
>>8282603to the future vpred bake>>8282607you take that back (unless you meant models suck at replicating asanagi, not that asanagi is shit)
>>8282600You WILL use (YD:1) in all your prompts!
>>8282604Not talking about needing to do aesthetic finetuning, just how retarded the average "ai user" actually is. Why do you think Astralite added score tags? Because people are fucking retarded.
>>8282610asanagi is shit
>>8282599asanagi is just ugly in general
>>8282609>It's just over, even after a "1.0" probably the vpred will have also the same issues.are you serious or shitposting? why would vpred have these same issues by default
>>8282610meant that models are replicating him perfectly
>>8282605All samples are made with the same prompts to compare them on the same base. Are you delusional or just retard?
asanagi is the greatest artist ever
>>8282619reading comprehension
>>8282615>>8282616>>8282618Based, asanagi is a shit
>He thought that noobxpony checkpoint wasnt peak.
>>8282620no artist that draws stirrup legwear should be considered good
and n****kaiser is the greatest creator ever
>>8282620no that's shadman
it's so over, they can't make adjustments to the model now...
i did it lads
>>8282628>hover hand
>>8282628based lmao
>>8282628based
i wish asanagi would make more doujins of smug girls in modern daygetting railed instead of fantasy shit
>>8282617color issues yes for sure, but the loss of style/quality will be there
asanagi 2hu doujin when?
>>8281442do u not know how to do a plot, put in -1 for random seeds
>>8282545Yeah because it's so damn difficult to put like 3 or 4 words into the prompt and negative and just leave it there permanently, right?
I'm starting to get what I can only describe as jpg artifacting around some of my gens. What could I have screwed up to make this happen?
Really tired of the fursuit defense force running damage control here
>>8282642Lol, what the fuck is going on here
>>8282642downgrade to noob 0.5 eps
>>8282517>but it's just "1girl, solo" do SEX>>8282547>but you didn't put quality tag and negativemasterpiece, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres,worst quality, low quality, lowres, 3dcg, photorealistic,photorealism,realistic,3d>>8282570>but you are not using style promptasanagi>>8282599Are those guys paid chills or what?It's looking worst each time.
FUCKING CHINKS FUCKED IT UP
>>8282642Model is trained on compressed images.
>>8281274>>8281281box for these?
>>8282642are you using a trash civitai lora?
>>8282647>Are those guys paid chills or what?Now who would benefit from keeping the e621 dataset...? Exactly.
why don't you guys just use one trillion negs and one trillion positive to avoid 3d and furry art?
i'm baking
>>8282647it's so fucking over dude, I'm taking off work tomorrow to shitpost about this for 8 hours straight
>>8282652i don't get it
While colors certainly took a hit on v0.75, one positive is that it did learn some niche concepts better, for instance electrodes/electrostimulation. Prior versions of noob couldn't really do this to a reliable degree.Also this is the canon way hex maniac makes moo moo milk :3
>>8282650https://files.catbox.moe/cxig9j.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ocle02.png>>8282658kek that's pretty good. box?
https://files.catbox.moe/jqbgr4.jpg
Some "people" apparently like it
>>8282657hint: a hairy turk
>>8282662what are his images like
>kurumuz hired furries to poison noob bakes with sepiait's over
>>8282662>this pfpyeah
>>8282665https://civitai.com/user/Bolfondla/images
>>8282658>colors certainly took a hit on v0.75proof?
What do y'all use for lora training nowadays?
>>8282670see >>8282599
>>8281049KINO
>>8282671write your own script for kohya sd scripts and never worry about something not being "up to date" ever again
what happened to xenoblade anon?
>>8282677im generating onee-sans in boxes right now
>>8282662I'm just gonna say it. Westerns should be purged from anime spaces.
>>8282676>triton
>>8282555>>8282592>>8282601>>8282651>>8282659I'm in love with your gens and hope you keep them up. Also pls catbox
>>8282662im so tired bros.
Why are you guys still genning? The noob bake is doomed, give up and find another hobby.
>>8282680what about it? it's not needed
>>8282679anon that's civitai, not some anime website
They hated him
>>8282678oh. carry on then.
>>8282683I cant, i've been cooming using the new bake since 8 am.
>>8282669it started out cute and then devolved into /aco/ fur shitno wonder he likes 0.75
>>8282686Too based for this cringe world
>>8282658Thanks for the praise! I got very lucky with this gen, no inpaint at all. I did do a merge between noob v0.75 with the itercomp checkpoint (basically pull out all base sdxl of noob, replace with intercomp). I feel like it helps with colors and details in general:https://files.catbox.moe/ijsxm3.png
https://civitai.com/models/859467?modelVersionId=907264come home, white man.
>>8282678I would order one of those
>>8282686damn the civitai really showed meI should look up what the dudes thumbs downing me posts
>>8282693why she's so famous? https://civitai.com/images/35695983
>>8282686So brave
>>82826953 furries and schizo anon really thumbed me down, damn anon how could you do this to me
>>8282698Because you're retarded bro
>>8282693Aom, home.
>>8282694it doesn't seem practical
>>8282703Give her cat ears.
>>8282701My feelings are hurt
>>8282683>more than a year ago>why are you guys still here, SDXL is doomed>year ago>why are you guys still here, pony is slopped>6 months ago>why are you guys still here, it's just pony forever>month ago>why are you guys still here illu sucks>now>why are you guys here noob suckswhy are you still here? you clearly hate being here and loathe enjoying yourself.having a great time making infinite lewds and we're getting all this shit for free?
>>82826988 thumbs down now. Stepped on the baras tail there, lil bro
>>8282698sir blacked Aqua seems to like smegma
>>8282695You just don't appreciate the incredible knowledge e621 dataset brings with it
>>8282710This but unironically
>>8282711>>8282710such as?
I've posted some 0.75 gens and if any of them get into the highlights next thread then that means the model is good.
>dark-skinned male in negs>still get thisit's so fucking over>>8282681that's a lot of boxeshttps://files.catbox.moe/e80c1t.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/oqrpsg.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jwfpap.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/4tv0yw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/vex627.png
>>8281114In the case I tested, the style of version 0.75 is just further away from the base model of illustriousXL: Kohaku XL-Beta. So yes, 0.75 started to have its own default painting style. 0.5 just hasn't entered the style change yet, and some people may prefer 0.5. On the other hand, 0.75 obviously performs better in some rare concepts such as: guro, tragedy, suggestive composition, etc. At the same time, it also has some bad limbs, but the overall quality has surpassed the official nai i think. I'm very much looking forward to version 1.0. Let's go!good job!
>>8282712Smegma, rimming, bestiality
>>8282712rusty trombone!
why is civitai so shit? it keeps telling me to log in to view images despite being logged in and if I hit log in, it takes me to a page where i'm logged out with no option to log in. i refresh page, i'm still logged in and issue persists
>>8282712furry on furry, anal prolapse, vomit
>>8282712I won't post anything backing up my claims but just believe me bro. Illustrious could never
>>8282698Nothing to see here chuds, furies are definitely not influencing the current trajectory of this model.
>>8282704cat girl instead
>>8282714Danke dogtor
>>8282715Imo 0.75 just looks worse and the downsides are way more pronounced that the "improvements" vs 0.5.
>>8282722Furries need to get their eyes checked. They've been looking at shit art on deviantart for too long that they've got zero aesthetic taste I wouldn't mind the furry inclusion IF IT DIDN'T INCLUDE SUCH GENUINELY UGLY ART
>>8282714>(dark-skinned male:0.5)I wonder why? Seriously though, you should probably also neg interracial and maybe even dark penis
>>8282727the image in that post has it weighted at 1
>>8282728Fair enough, do consider the other thing I said though
>>8282676I'm retarded. Can I feed it a toml file?
>>8282722FACT: furries are worse than jeets
I am Indian
>>8282734How horrifying
>>8280719Is there a better alternative to DeepDanbooru yet? It's good but surely the technology has improved.https://huggingface.co/spaces/hysts/DeepDanbooru
>>8282732I SAW THAT TOOIt's the same retard as this >>82823660.75 is unironically grabbing the pony audience
>>8282734Same desu, I still joke about usfeel like there's a lot of self-deprecating indians here, probably a third of posters itt
>>8282734my condolences
>>8282738>I still joke about uskek same its funny
>>8282660saying based so you dont get lonely brittle
>>8282737only way to fight against this furry shit is to complain desu
>pony>complaint is like of style control and aesthetic bias with score tags>noob>complaint is that there's no aesthetic bias to make "1girl, solo," and nothing else produce good outputs, ignoring that the model does have optional masterpiece best-worst quality tagsdented
>>8282741>cringe pity (you) t-thanks
>>8282734Based.
>>8282660Women don't actually like it when a dick messes with their womb or cervix. Contrary to popular beliefs, large dicks are relatively useless.
>>82827430.75 looks worse than 0.5 even if using quality tags, so not sure what is your point.
>>8282743I simply dont like furries, its just that simple.
>>8282746girth > length
>>8282746cute cope
>>8282744when are you taking the hag pill
>>8282748was your prompt 2 tags by chance? again, dented.
>>8282733"ixy, sketch" with negative
>>8282749Jordach was entertaining, but the way these degerates try to hijack and smegmafy the model is disturbing and reminds me of troons.
>>8282729yeah no you're right i kinda forgot about interracial>>8282730you could feed it a toml file through a python or powershell script, but you can't feed it a toml file directly because that's just a configuration file format. personally i use a powershell script
>>8282754What possible reason could you have for defending the inclusion of e621 in TE training?
>>8282754No, using same tags and quality tags I was using vs 0.5 which gave good results vs not now on 0.75.
>>8282751Cute reality. The perfect spot is between 4 and 6 inches. If your dick is in that range, you'll be able to please women way more than you could with anything bigger or smaller.
>>8282758more data is more data and if you don't understand the positive of that, even when it features content you don't like, you truly have learned nothing in 2 years of image diffusion.
>>8282746>>8282751>this post was written by a micro penis haver
0.5 vs 0.75
>>8282764oops, meant to tag >>8282761 not >>8282751
>>8282765Sepiafication is real
>>8282762>corrosion? no it cant happen
don't @ me retard
>>8282765finally, an actual comparison.with *gasp* minimal differences between the outputs. It's almost like everyone in this thread is deluding themselves into thinking the model got worse.
>>8282762There is enough anime to expand the dataset or we could use museum collections and photos of architecture. No need to add low quality data just because it comes with metadata
>>8282770You're telling me that this general is filled with literal retards?
>>8282770>with *gasp* minimal differences between the outputs.Are you blind?
>>8282761>4 and 6 inchesDick WAY too big, women prefer 3 inchers because it hits the g spot better
>>8282770finally, 1girl comparions that has been posted all over the thread>minimal differencesyoure going to tell me 1201 & 1600 left and right look minimal in difference?
>>8282770>>8282774Go back to your discord ponytrannies.
>>8282774big if true
>>8282775explain the difference without sounding mad
https://litter.catbox.moe/juisyc.pngI want allah to smite these people
You guys are fucking retarded either way NAI is still better.
>>8282538yeah because diluting the dataset with garbage is probably good right?
>>8282782no, waifu diffusion is better
>>8282784nice strawman. get some reading comprehension bud
>>8282782Go play with the Halloween bats in the nai ui. We don't have time for naiggers right now
>>8282785It literally isn't but okay.
>>8282784You don't understand more garbage = good.
>>8282781i hate furries so god damn much
>>8282788>naiggersNoobAIggers? Yeah sounds about right.
>>8282784>add poop images to a model>how dare you hate more data being this model
>>8282770But you can see it's literally worse lolIt fucks the concept of light body outline through clothes in 3 seeds
>>82827650.5 to 0.75 does feel something like going from base illu/smoothFT to the early leak of noob which improved genitals slightly but killed colors, not quite as extreme as that though. Either way it's not the v-pred version so who cares
are furries not happy with pony?
is 0.75 better at generating milf eating beans than 0.5
>>8281885whaty was this artist name?
>>8282782I don't think jeets are allowed use Novel AI anymore. Or asians for some reason
>You go to a restaurant and order soup>The waiter brings your soup and then spits in it>He hands you a syringe and tells you to just filter the spit out
1girl, azumanga_daioh, kasuga_ayumu with a shotgun on her lap, sitting on a wooden chair, porch, straw_hat, sleeping, closed_mouth, straw in mouth, white house, blue sky, wild west, desert, (ojipon:0.5)
you guys are a bunch of neurotic drama queens, go touch some grass fucking restless idiots
sadly the newer model does add more character details. even if its furryslopped
negative:greyscale,(sepia:1.3)
>>8282693Do pony loras work well on this? Literally the only reason I haven't made the switch.
>>8282802No drama here, furfags are raiding anyone who thinks 0.75 is a downgrade compared to 0.5.
>>8282802My brother in christ this is 4chan
>>8282270this gives me PTSD of 1.5 days
>>8282802>beastality furries raid a model trained mostly on anime>you guys are drama queensu faggots have pony. fuck off
>>8282732so this is who the chinese are catering toshamefur display
Guys let's me honest, this was the most entertaining thread in weeks.
>>8282794you don't understand, it's not enough to just have pony. they need pony, noob, fluxbooru and jordach's 1.5 model too
>>8282800apples and oranges retard
>>8282806>>8282807>>8282809wish you retards were so passionate about vpred, maybe lax would have listened
>>8282801wow noob is so good...
>>8282812be*
So how many more epochs before we can prompt ces and gpo?
>>8282818can someone explain to me the origin of ces and gpo? i stopped coming here shortly after pony dropped and got back a month ago. still have no clue what the joke is
>>8282819literally prompt it
another proof that furries are mentally ill retard and a plague upon humanity, they cant just shit themselves they need to shit everywhere else too
>>8282819Download Ponyv6prompt "1girl, ces, gpo" and enjoy
>>8282819prompt it on pony and find out :^)
what the fuck
Alright I'm gonna go back to enjoying some V3 while you midwits bitch about furries or some shit with your arr rook the same generations. It's fun to be in a thread with more than two posts an hour.
A gpo flew over my ces just now
>>8282821>>8282823>>8282824https://files.catbox.moe/qbiiip.pngyeah ok that's far enough
>>8282819I know about gpo.Basically the creator of Pony wanted to hide artists from us, but he kept secret tags for himself, we found out certain combinations of three letters were specifc artists, people made a whole list of artists relating to the three letters. This secret being found out probably pissed off the Pony creator.Anyway gpo ended up being the most distrurbing and vile tag that made the images really weird and creepy with big holes etcSo sometimes people would troll noobs and tell them to add gpo to the prompt to improve the image. this is the basics of the lore
>>8282830Uhhh... ponysissies, our response?
>>8282830>512x512>no 1girlshame>>8282819feCESGaPing hOle
>>8282834>GaPing hOleThat's not how it works.
>>8282830>he actually did itbased
>>8282830is that noob 0.75?
>>8282837you wish
>>8282837it's a sneak peek of 1.0
>>8282835then explain why it produces gaping holes without sounding mad
>>8282830do gpo only with 1girl, blowjob etc, it's pretty funny. Ces is lame that's just scat
https://civitai.com/user/nunyabusiness>more furries in comment section defending 0.75ponys won.
0.75 is good tho
>>8282757cbox?
>>8282842it's crazy, they get a crumb of knot and they go rabid
>>8282838I dont wish, i just put 1other and its close enough
>>8282846https://files.catbox.moe/ozbwds.pngpretty shit. didn't notice the non sense cheek bulge until after posting
>>8282842I really hope the noob team is smart enough to realize furries are a terrible metric and you should probably do the opposite of what they wantAlso hope they have eyes and are not actually blind to quality like most people using AI somehow
>>8282852Yeah but the position and expression is good. I scour catboxes to steal parts from them for my own gens, like some abbo stealing car parts for his shitbox.
>>8282853the one hope is that they're chinese, probably weebs, and not furries. they are doing this because they want an anime model after all
>Epic battle in the civit comment sectionSadly the furries have infinite discords to call help from
>>8282854that's a dead expression...
>P*ny>Illustrious>noobAI>None can still do the absolute SOVLKINO that are 1.5 backgroundscome back home white man
>>8282857so
comes full circle
>>8282856and resident nigger avatarfag is on the side of zoophiles fitting
>>8282859that's a child
>>8282855yeah well who knows, they seem hellbent on pleasing the civitai crowd considering they released noob earlier and were hesitant to make the vpred model because it was too complicated for them to make it work
>>8282862Time to test my guro lora.
>>8282858S O U L
>>82828612 nogens and konan vs schizoanon, who will win?
>>8282861Is it really surprising? He's gonna simp for every decision they are making and enjoys the degeneracy that e621 brings anyway.
>>8282861genuinely disappointed
>>8282858Based
>>8282714do clipnegpip for dark-skinned male
>>8282858this is true and it's insane. it's like there's something weird with sdxl that makes it incapable of generating actually good, detailed backgrounds. it has like 4 times the parameters and does everything else better but backgrounds are always lacking compared to 1.5 shitmixes.
>>8282864noooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>8282871not being a retard and adding interracial to negs fixed it. also kek
>>8282860upscaleanon is right and it's going to be really fucking funny seeing people get skill issued by the finalized version of noob because they're incapable of typing what they want in the prompt box
>>8282872yeah I remember 1.5 backgrounds being amazing, whenever I think about pony etc I cane barely remember the backgrounds.
>>8282869why? this retard was only spamming with blacked porn and le schizo off topic obnoxious attentionwhore
>>8282872are there any good loras for improving backgrounds for sdxl?
>>8282872base sdxl was finetuned on a blurry background slop for *aesthetics*
>>8282875kys furry
>>8281376>https://files.catbox.moe/jaf8x4.pngwhy does the mignon one has censoring? thanks for more shiro btw
>>8282880you sound bitter
>The only degradation to outputs occur with shorter low-effort prompts.What is this retarded take, like having more random tag will improve artist fidelity or colors?!
>>8282881lmao her arms
>>8282883[[[[dropout issues]]]]
>>8282881I wonder why a japanese artist posting only heavily censored work produce censored pictures, truly a mystery
>>8282882you sound like a dog fucker
>>8282886so nogens are deleterious shitposters everywhere, who wouldve thoughtbtw i prompt 0 furry and think 0.75 was a signnificant improvement
>>8282886glad you are proud of roasting them mister scythesaint99 and you had to show it to the class
enjoying things is wrong and you should be mad at peoplemad at jannies, mad at bakers, mad at genners, mad all the timeno joy, no pleasure, just madit's such a transparent play and it's been going on for literal yearssad.do the sensible thing and filter posts with no images.
>>8282891Its a massive improvement on character knowledge which I am very happy abouthuge downgrade for everything else
>>8282891>nogen
resubbing to NAI after the chinese failed their one chance at a good bake. I encourage all of my fellow localsisters to join me in solidarity.
>>8282893kill yourself avatarfag
>>8282891The only thing that improved was that it updated the current state of characters, adding some finer details.With that being said, they also trained it with this shit: E621-Face-Dataset, unless youre a furry, why the fuck would u defend it.
>>8282886What is this "prompt control" that these furfaggots are talking about? What prompts are we missing that these master promptsmiths are using to not make their anime gens look like shit?
>>8282899more variety is good
>>8282897kurumuz our hero!
>>8282893that image hs furry eyes and face
>>8282893Who are you talking to
>>8282893stop taking an imageboard so seriously and your fragile mind will be much healthier
>>8282860Imagine this guy is telling me how to prompt and how SD models work.
>>8282901(you)
>>8282908me
someone post an ai generated image
>>8282910explain to me why you deserve to see my gens without sounding mad
I am not Indian
>>8282268https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfitting
>>8282910This will be a 2K, I feel it in my bones. Imagecels will forever be btfo'ed
>>8282907learn to prompt bro, you cant even use the model properly, how delusional of you
cuuuuurious
Quick, deploy the pixiv archive!
>>8282893box?>>8282874full image box please?
>>8282918ohnononoo
>her right hand
>>8282918Shalom! it is pure coincidence goy!
>>8282895fresh slop just for you>>8282894i only see improvement across the board, but im actually genning exclusively with my meme lora which seems to improve contrast as a side effect. that leads me to believe that any issues with aesthetics are trifling and will be easily rectified with a basic aesthetic tune>>8282899i sometimes reach for e621 tags because they fill in details danbooru doesnt describe
>>8282918>cheerypicking: the postLOL
>>8282918wait does this mean the inclusion of furry actually helped
Please upload all these xys to the civit page
>>8282918NOOOO SEPIA DOESN'T COME FROM FURRIES SHUT IT DOWN
>>8282918I dont get it, what is it even showing
>>8282918why did we pick 1201 instead of 1200 anon, huh?
>>8282918>people will defend this
>>8282934""""people""""
>>8282935yeah me
>>8282933wildcard text file rolled same girl twicedon't think too hardgents can you trypositive: (not_furry, human, female:1.3), negative: (furry:1.3),and compare
>>8282924holy catbox please
I gotta admit, this shit is hilariousWe're like skirting the lines of another pony disasterThe furfaggots are pushing for Pony 2 and some valiant anons are pushing back trying to save local
>>8282918looks like noise/variance to me
>>8282924nice pony shading
>>8282893You're letting this affect you way too much, you dummy. People will always be tribalistic retards everywhere you go. This is nothing compared to /v/ or /vg/
>>8282924So because (You) dont see an issue then its not a problem? Sound very narrow minded and poor at judging the change from the modelAlso your gen is pony tier(beside the excellent saliva) so i dont even know what to say about your judgement of quality
>>8282944>You're letting this affect you way too muchyeah for sureI don't really read these threads too much, just throwing my 2 piss in
>>8282939uses the unrelated gigachad lora, and i guess the dataset boosted contrast as a side effect
>>8282924Are we really going to another sdxl model with sepia/furry notions? We don't need another pony model
>>8282918dont forget to put source_furry, source_pony, source_comics in your neg guysastralite knew it all along
>>8282946the gen looked like aoi nagisa's old style so i didnt touch the style tags beyond generic quality boilerplate
https://civitai.com/images/36814615image uploaded to 0.75 versionmetadata says model is 0.5 versioncurious
>>8282953fixed
>>8282956Kek
>>8282955the conspiracy deepens
>>8282955erm, noobsisters???
furries confirmed for colorblind https://litter.catbox.moe/lr6tc8.PNG
>>8282949and for you, a seed with sepia in negativei have yet to encounter a regression in 0.75 that i'd attribute to anything beyond noise or needing to tweak negatives
>>8282948thank you very much
>>8282964he's not a furry doever
>>8282967everyone I don't like is a furry
Can the blacked schizo avatarfag kill himself already
>>8282949>>8282943seems similar to source materialhttps://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=3&tags=aoi_nagisa_%28metalder%29+mizuki_yukikaze+
>>8282947Recluse yourself it's not the solution either. Just ignore them bwo... It's kinda hard but it's the only solution. People are just heated up right now, everyone will calm down probably by tomorrow. *smooch*
>>8282969fluffy eyelashes
>I wanna make a good dataset>I don't wanna manually go over the 100+ autotagger outputsBaking loras is hard
>>8282955update, it really is the 05 version. just ran it on my machine. picrel is my unupscaled. just compare it to the civit post.... https://civitai.com/images/36814615
>>8282975no way this is a mistake, it's 100% a conspiracy... the chinese are trying to turn us into furries let's impotently rage even harder!!!
>>8282969catbox?
>>8282976lol, desu i dont know if its really a mistake or not, cus how does civit get 0.5 as 0.75??
>>8282975run the same on 0.75
Textsisters, we have to go even further beyond!!!
FYI "uneven eyes" is a great tag
>>8282975OHNONONOONoobsloppers taking the L
Ok but WHY is it so necessary to put a e621 dataset in an anime model?
who is bud talking to?
>>8282979same seed, unupscaled 0.75 version
>>8282985Smegma, farting
>>8282985We need more data. Why does it have to be the ugliest data available? Stop asking questions, goy
>we're going back to score_9, score_8_up, source_anime2024 was a fucking mistakeastralite was a fucking mistake41%
>>8282988Nice, has a bit of a furry vibe, but other than that pretty cool
>>8282985to destroy NAI
GUYS, I don't want to alarm you, but there is a MUCH bigger issue right now than noobai v0.75:https://files.catbox.moe/7ltyjo.jpg
>>8282595
>>8282993I swear I only prompted for hairy male.
>>8282985Because it's a furry model and weaboos don't deserve good models
Please think of my starving family living in a hut floating on the ganges! They need 2000 posts to survive!
>>8282992Quality tags were always a mistake. They do too much or they do too little.Negatives were also a mistake.We need to truly be free.
>>8282995KEK
>>8282985you WILL prompt 1furry, vomit, smegmaand you WILL like it
2k post bros...
>>8282985it helps porn and there's a lot of good data there? like are you niggers prompting furry shit? then it shouldn't affect your prompts that much. SDXL is a big boy, he has enough parameters to handle it.
Gonna bake my first illust lora. Did only noobaivpred so far. Do I keep vpred enabled for Illust, or just SDXL?>>8282974Just went over 60.It's terrible, but the results are worth it.
>>8282987its kinda better but also not really
>>8283005I'm sure these folks also advocate for filtering out all yaoi / bara content from anime models.
>>8283007Illustrious is not vpred, sir
>>8283006You got something pretty similar to me an hour ago
>>8283005Name ONE thing worth adding from 621 to anime models
>>8283005the issue is that Danbooru and e621 use similar tags that can cause concept bleeding
>>8283011Nice. Great minds think alike.
>>8283012rimjob
>>8283015but both base illus and noob can already do rimjobs
>>8283005>it helps pornno it doesntalso its so full of garbage it actually stain the dateset and smear it in shit color
>>8283012foreskin
But why sepia tho?
>>8283017danbooru is also full of garbage, there are a lot of contributors who bypass the queue to add tumblr art that's vaguely anime. that shit doesn't get pruned from the dataset.
>>8283018Good stuff
>>8283010Alright. I've been only doing vpred for so long I forgot what options are only meant for it and not other models lol.
>>8283016base illus couldnt or at least required much more gacha
Highlights... so close
>>8282858H-HOT
>>8283020idk, go to e621 and check it out for yourself
>wake up>1100 new posts>took 1 hour to just skim QUICKLYGuess 0.75 really is THAT bad huh? Went to sleep before trying it.
The sepia is seeping in...
>>8282973Yes>>8282977https://litter.catbox.moe/d1izew.png
>>8283021But the model we've been trying to chase for over a year is based on the danbooru dataset
>>8283021the ratio is completely different, you would have a hard time finding a pictures worth adding to any dataset when browsing e621
>>8283028it's literally better 0.5 but some retards are sharting themselves because prompting "1girl, solo" doesn't give them the mona lisa. honestly feels like a very thinly veiled astroturfing campaign.
>>8281673Gelbooru is mostly danbooru anyways, there's little difference
>>8283033Link your civitai profile please, sir
>>8283033>every example so far show its worse>not a single show improvement>its literally better guysssssstfu lying retard
>>8283036https://civitai.com/user/momoura
I think we should all go back to 1.5
>>8283033"better" with worse colors, artist looks worse and has a sepia look. if you use the same tags from 0.5 in 0.75 you literally get worse results kek
>>8283034Best sources for more anime art are screenshots and gamecgs + maybe a limited amount of doujins
>>8283040you dropped your gen bro?
>>8283016was pretty inconsistent for me. skill issue i guess
>>8283039Based.
guys when are the adding gpo and ces to NoobAI?
>>8283043>nogenshow the 0.75 superiority
>>8283040Just write a longer prompt, broDon't be lazy, bro
>>8283048show that it's worse
>>8283030ubel box??>>8283042box mochirong sir
OUR wife
>>8283051scroll up
Why are they refusing to post on /b/?
>>8283049kill yourself, NAI shill
>>8283051i know that furries are blind so can't see grids itt
>>8283049finally an image from a non-furry model, ffsonly took almost 300 images
>>8283049Stfu I hate oppossumachine
>>8283051like 15 grids have been posted in this thread, are you blind?
so the furry database may have some spillover, but they also tag things "not furry", which i'd expect enables the model to proactively shun furry aesthetics and tastes rather than just miss themso it's more than just negging furry which doesnt do much at all
>>8283033It's mostly shitposting but there's also legitimate concern that the model would get poisoned with furry crap and sepia. It's not catastrophic with 0.75, yeah, you can "just use long prompts and negs bro it's okay, it's actually better!", but what is 1.0 gonna look like?
>>8283061he think 0.75 is better so yes he is
>>8283062I'd rather my food had no shit in it to begin with
>>8283062source_anime sisters, we're back!!!
>>8283063sepia wasn't an issue with the e621 dataset on pony, pony was sepia because astralite was a retard and used fucked hyperparameters for training the model. look at an actually well trained furry model like fluffyrock which actually had amazing colors because lodestone isn't a moron and jumped on the ztsnr train as soon as he noticed it was better.
>>8283063>people show proof of regression>It's mostly shitpostingkeep gaslighting
>>8282677How did you prompt the bodies? Specifically, the thighs?
>>8283067and sepia isn't an issue on nai furry either, it's literally just eps-pred
>>8283069noob bros... can we recreate this?
>>8283073only with v0.5
>>8283073what a joke of a question, of course not
>>8283069only based poster itt as always
>>8283069why it's so anime
>>8282805They do, but it's hilariously so weak that you might as well just make new loras so you can use it with other illustrious shitmixes.
>>8283052https://files.catbox.moe/mh5bth.png
>>8283069NAI GOD I KNEEL
>>8283081it's NAI, and frankly? I'm resubscirbing RIGHT NOW!
>>8283069Yeah ... I'm resubscribing
>>8283081it's the only good sdxl anime finetune (after 12 (twelve) months)
>>8283086>/aco/ style>>8283069>anime stylelearn the difference.. we lost...
>>8283092>>/aco/ styletake that back you mothar bitch
>>8283075box?
We were so close...
>>8283045I'm happy I didn't delete all of these old models, it's nice to look back at them for the nostalgia. Have some EasyFluff as well.
>>8282872I think there are times where SDXL (or perhaps just the fine tunes) can produce interesting backgrounds, but yeah, 1.5 was really quite interesting for backgrounds and knowing trivia related to backgrounds. It's sad that was lost. Maybe SD3.5 Medium will be the one...
Why is it that whenever a better local model is released, shitposting in this general increases by over 1000%?
>>8283097home. until i slopped it all up
>>8283099kurumuz pays his shills better than he pays his textgen team apparently
>>8283099Is this better local model in the room with us right now?
>8283099>better local model gotta try a little harder than that for my (You)
>>8283101Is there new NAI drama? Can you give me the highlights?
>>8283101kek
>>8283099On the contrary the better model got butchered.
>>8283099>It's bettercare to show us how?
prophetic https://rentry.org/AnimeIsAllYouNeed
>>8283104the only drama we have is a localsissy meltdown as usual
>>8283099There was only lazy "pony" shitposting with 0.5, because 0.5 was actually really good. With 0.75... not so much. I really don't want e621 to butcher local's best shot at sota model.
>>8283110why didn't this guy do it then?
>>8283112is the e621 butchering the model in the room with us anon
>>8283084thanks
I warned all of you guys that noob would only get worse after 0.5 because of the e621 dataset and none of you listened to me
>>8283110get this guy a cluster>>8283114did you miss part D?
>>8283117Nobody knew that they would unfreeze the TE
>>8283114why do you even have to ask? lack of compute
>>8283119can you unfreeze the TE but just for character related tag
>>8283120>>8283118you are no different from an ideas guy
>>8283121lol
Anon-samas, I ask again, where could I check out some tomls for Pony models? I wanna test baking some styles/characters for it even if it's getting dead.
>>8283122why do you think i made that rentry? are you projecting anon
>>8283110>still wants to use raw gelbooru tagsim so tired of this why do this why not use wd eva/vit + the stupid original tags
>>8283025Your gen is not making it in, because either:>You didn't prompt for the newest gacha girl>There was no penis or cum> Penis was smaller than an adults arm> You prompted for some kind of intercourse that's not vaginal or fellatio> Male does not have dark skin> Your image has another kind of shading that's not the default pony 2.5d ultra shiny skin sheen.> The female is visibly over 16 years.
>>8283124>Ponyahahaha
>>8283069I'm mr beast
>>8283121They could just unfreeze it for a few epochs of only danbooru to get new characters/artists and then refreeze it and train to convergence with the furry data.
>>8283124there are these things called the archives and the OP
>>8283100it's time to come home.
>>8283099when 0.5 was released it was ok because the model was actually decent and not much shitposting, not like with 0.75
>>8283126This was before the magic of eva large
LAX YOU BUSTAALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TRAIN ON THE DAMN DANBOORU DATASET LAX
>>8283126Did you know that there are still people out there tagging images with natural language and using it for loras?
>>8283127there's 1girl cunny in the current highlights within this very thread thoughwhy lie??
Did you know that there are 366k images with the "tagme" tag on gelbooru?https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=tagme+Do your part and help make the image gen model of tomorrow even better by slaving away!
>>8283127> The female is visibly over 16 years.That's a fair minus. Wrinkles and smile lines are ugly. You can have any look you want with anime, why strive for anything but perfection??
>>8283141i still think that the only way we're ever getting an actually good dataset is manually tagging 100k images and training an autotagger on that
>furries posting kung-fu panda inflation on noob serverit's fucking over
>>8283143Imperfections can be cute. Beauty mark is the prime example
>>8283137>We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had Euge. We had compute. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could have shut your DMs, cooked, and made as many bakes as you ever needed. It was perfect! But no. You just had to blow it up. You, and your furries and your bronies. You just had to listen to them. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.
>>8283069this mix looks pretty good on vpred to be fair
>>8283150
>>8283153kill yourself for trying to imitate kurumuz' god model, localjeet
>>8283153>gorillaz mix
>>8283153>looks pretty goodis anyone going to tell him?
>>8283158i'm sorry sar..
>>8282062https://files.catbox.moe/x6og25.pngAlso, I forgot about vivi-chan
>>8283152I am not crazy! I know he swapped those preview images! I knew it was V0.5. Not even close to Magna Carta. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn't prove it. He – he covered his tracks, he got that idiot in the civit comments to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. That Illu bake! Are you telling me that a man just happens to get shafted by his company like that? No! He orchestrated it! Jordach! He defecated on our anime bake! And I donated to him! And I shouldn't have. Gave him my own money! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he made minecraft mods, always the same! Couldn't keep his paws out of the donation bucket! But not our Jordach! Couldn't be precious Jordach! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a baker!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you – you have to stop him! You-
>>8283153better than most local stuff
>>8283169kek
this one is copying the negatives too, overall a lot less misses than the previous onewell proompted, sar
2 more imagerinos!!!
>>8283175wait is this not NAI??
>>8283178good joke!
Idk about you guys but i'm off to masturbating to my gens made on 0.5 btw
Are you all ready to post in my next thread?
Textsisters...
>>8283178https://files.catbox.moe/o02el7.pngbasically the same prompt than who I was quoting
>>8283182Yes :)
New Thread:>>8283184>>8283184>>8283184
>>8282907>images posted 2 years ago just to show off a shitty trained LoRACan you try harder at shitting on me than when I had trained my first shitty LoRA?It's funny when schizos just go with the "ur profile images are bad, so you're bad"
>>8283238>genless
uh oh civijeet melty
>>8283255Yes you are :)
>>8282169>literally comparing undirected 1girl, solo resultspeak retard
