If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.Previous thread >>7217963
Thanks OP, my sides are in orbit
>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge Bridgman>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFun With A PencilFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifeCheck out https://nma.art for a subscription based academic approach to learning art
Does anyone have any experience going from a regular tablet to a screen tablet? I used to take my laptop+tablet with me places, but then the laptop bricked, so now if I want to make stuff outside of the house I need a new one. The thing is I don’t want to shell out for a new laptop, so maybe the better alternative would be some kind of screen tablet. Does it feel weird? Is it any harder/easier than doing it on a regular tablet?
>>7220530burne hogarth bros....
>>7220539My linework improved a lot after I went from a screenless tablet to a display tabletit was strange for the first 3 days or so but now I can't imagine going backI also recommend looking for a laptop stand or monitor arm otherwise you will have a lot of back pain like I had
>>7220547Have any recs? I’m surprised to hear an iPad might not be a bad idea, I’m so used to hearing everyone shit on apple for years now
funny anatomy doodles
>>7220539my back hurted like hell when using it so i tried a tilted position but it felt so uncomfortable i just turned off the screen and used it as a nondisplay tablet, its bigger than my former tablet anyway
>>7220555iPad is good, the only downside is the high priceIf you want a good, lower cost option, there is the Samsung Tab S9.
Reposting, opinions?Good night lads
>>7220547Damn tha's a nice work man, do you use references or something?
>>7220575I was inspired by this pic
>>7220575>>7220581and used this one for the linework
I should draw more often, gotta study more.
>>7220585instead of studying, just draw for fun!
>>7220547I'm actually jealous. Great stuff my dude.
Sup beg, today i am okay with my draw session. Cant shake up a feeling i am too slow at drawing.>>7220539funnily enough okay laptop will be way cheaper than okay screen tablet. also if you want to draw outside your art basement, take the trad pill>inb4 the cheapest modelsimagine laptop which lags, overheats and dictates which app you are allowed to use (it is the one you dont like). Plus the screen will get scratched and will be tiny. I warned you>>7220558booba>>7220547BOOBA>>7220573my opinion is that you need keys to drawing>>7220587i like it
>>7220588Perhaps I will. It would be a nice change of pace for me.
>>7220572>>7220555If you want to go even cheaper try finding an S7/S7+. It works just as well, maybe slightly more laggy but nbd.
Not my favorite one, it wasn't as smooth as my other drawings, but at least I finished it
>>7220606Pawell, stop this madness. There is no way you will learn to draw just by copying symbols from all the books you have. It's just impossible how you can continue this insanity for years. I remember when i came here and i saw your drawings, i was thinking "wow, this is some dedicated man", and after years I see no progress at all.The main problem, in my opinion, you don't imply your knowledge into the art you make. And you don't know why you should learn all this shit, you don't have any challenges.In my opinion, learning should look like this:>try to draw something>oh, what is this little bump on the body?>open your books, study what this bump is>make it into the drawing>repeatWhile other people do hundreds gestures and studies per day, they can see what their problems are, and they can work on them to get better. And you, just copy things you don't even know what for.I know your attitude and that you don't listen to critique at all, but i was watching for all this time and it's my first time when I just want to have a word for you. Just stop, Pawell, I respect you, but just stop. It's not even funny anymore. Please, for the sake of yourown sanity. You will never be young again, one day you will wake up, see all these thousands of shiity studies and then you gonna cry. Cry about your wasted years, Pawell.It's just sad to see people like Pawell, who have time and resources, but have no ability to learn properly. I'm not gonna reply anymore to you, and I know you will not listen to me, and will just justify your "learning process", just my little opinion formed by years of studying with my dear begs.Good luck, Pawell.
Goal is to make a comic. Feed back appreciated.
>>7220659Pawell will spit on your post and ignore you. that's just what he's always done to anyone who's actually tried to help him. time wasted, typing all this
>>7220659holy shit I was wondering when someone was going to acknowledge this guy and his shitty drawings, how have you drawn so much and still be in /beg/ for so long? genuinely sad.
mr loomis i dont feel so good...
Drew my other buddy’s dog. Proportions are off, but it turned out better than expected.
>>7220672Amazing values lil'bro, great contrast and godlike understanding of how hair works especially curly hair which is a bit trickier and easy to mess up with spaghetti hair.Fantastic work.
>>7220679Thanks anon
>>7220659PYW. otherwise, just empty words from a seething no-draw piece of crab.
>>7220684>butthurt Pawell
>>7220684How about Pawell will post his work first. Not just a study, I want to see some artwork from him, maybe a sketch, maybe a full rendered piece. Oh, wait... He's not good enough to draw not a copy from the book, rigth?
>>7220606Not >>7220659 but I agree. You're a good lad and I understand wanting to disregard the crabs, however you should really really look deep within yourself and ask why you haven't seen improvement in the last few years.You should study iterative drawing. Memory recall is core in learning skills. Sycra goes into it but if you want someone else less stylized there's other videos that go in depth on the methodology in more traditional ways. Here's a good example I personally use but there's others that don't use it to draw anime if you do some deep dives:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB9yTNfE3go
>come home from gym>have DOMS>try to draw anywaysI CAN'T MOVE MY FUCKING ARMS
>>7220723shouldn't have lifted to failure bro
>>7220587Ominous work. I've always liked pen and ink style with big blocks of color>>7220649Knowing how to finish is also part of it>>7220667Polish off and you'll be drawing Code Lyoko>>7220672How did you do white streaks on this fluff?
>>7220504is that nick fooentes ?>>7220679>lil broback to xitter, oh and kill yourself nigger
>>7220732>How did you do white streaks on this fluff?Electric eraser
>>7220733>is that nick fooentes ?Doesn't seem like it >>7219417But you can ask him >>7220521
fixed
She's still sleepy
>>7220759You should draw her eating chicken from a bucket
I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
>>7220776well generally, human beings don't have tails.
>>7220694Pawell is too much on the spectrum to feel emotions like anger or hurt
>>7220708>>7220659Pawell IS changing up how he studies, you crabs! Instead of copying things just in digital and not learning anything he is now also copying things traditionally and not learning anything ;^)
First day drawing, spent some time trying to get accustomed to using a pen on a computer lolHonestly very happy with the result, makes me motivated for the long road I have ahead.
>>7220790never forget talent is very real and know your first drawing is better than many here can do now after months or years of effort (myself included)
>>7220790its a pretty good start anon, already better than pawell.
>>7220825Ok, namedropping. What is the story behind this person?
>>7220776You know exactly what you're doing anon. We all know. Just own it, embrace it. Have fun with it. Start a project. Or let the circus go. Explore other things. You're good enough to do much better.You can have this animation with my favorite pics from you HERE:>>>/f/3509722 (Click on [embed] to play, click on the file name to save it)
>>7220840Pawell is the CEO of the BEG&INT Thread General. Our Captain Ahab, eternally grinding and pushing forward, doing whatever it takes. He defies the heavens with his artistic sins, but he never give up, he never will. He has ZERO talent, but ALL THE HEART AND SOUL. We all know that if HE can make it, then, ANYONE CAN. The day Pawell falls, it will be all over for us begs, he needs to get there, he needs to succeed, for all of us. He's our will, he's our heart still going against all odds. He's Pawell, the captain of the lost souls in this hopeless shithole.
Took a few years break from digital painting. Not that I was ever good at it. I completely ignored fundies because I'm retarded. Now I'm 28 and I feel like it's an uphill battle. How do I stop digital painting nonsense? If I learned digital painting the wrong way is it too late to learn how to do it properly? Or has the brain rot that I accumulated throughout the years taken its toll and now I'm too old and damaged to make it?:P
>>7220840its this guy >>7220606hes been drawing like this for three yearsi think he just likes it here
>>7220855For reference, these are a few attempts I've made a few months ago.
>>7220855Digital is perfect to do long and extensive grinding sessions. That's what you need. Grind figures here >>7217459 engage in the feedback, build a reason to keep drawing and posting. Post your digital drawpiles here >>7179832 You need drawing momentum, and to stay in that zone, the adventure and fun drawing zone.
>>7220861Thanks fren.
>>7220800Don't talk nonsense, his first drawing is simple, it can be drawn by a preschooler, you need to try harder and improve
>>7220777Here's what I thought would improve it. Nice trips.
>>7220872i wish i could have experienced life as you have.
>>7220849He's just trolling you with crappy drawings and he's already a successful artist
>>7220778Ew wtf. How do they even balance?>>7220841Whoa.. That's a great animation anon!! It's really flattering you chose my art to do that with. Though, I think you forgot to erase the legs I drew. I'm not sure what you think I'm doing either, I was just insecure about my art not doing so well and was trying to see why. Do you have a blog?
>>7220895>Though, I think you forgot to erase the legs I drew.Oooohhhh, ok, NOW I see! I thought the hands were the feet lol. So those are her feet, I thought those were her arms behind her head. Sorry anon.Your pose is good, it's just confusing because of the simple proportions of the doll, (her hands mainly).Thanks anon! no prob, it was fun. You're good, you do well finished pieces, very clean, that's all you need to do whatever you want. Having a "finished technique" is the hardest thing. I don't think this is the place to get good honest feedback like that. This s a place for art trolling, fun shit and senseless behavior. A place to vent out. If you post this same stuff on DeviantArt you will be LOVED, users there behave in a totally different manner. If you want validation and real human warmth, you will get it on DA. This is a place to have fun and break some balls. This place is great to be honest, I prefer this chaotic lolfest, KEKNo I don't have a blog, I can't deal with accounts and all that managing bullshit, having fun here is more than enough to fill all my artistic free time. Glad you liked the flash. Keep having fun anon!
>>7220897You're the best.
>>7220910Lol I don't blame you! Her legs are quite strange. Thank you for the compliments anon!! I love this place for its brutal honesty too, I know if there's a problem no one's gonna sugar coat it. Oddly enough I have a deviantart but it isn't doing so well. Granted I just kind of dump my art with no real thought but still. Maybe people don't think it's really me? I've seen people upload my work there a lot before. I think you should at least have one blog though! Just as like an archive of nothing else, you could totally get popular. I hope I see you around some time again.
>>7220926Thanks anon! Here, I did a Ragatha for you. I hope you found the invisible "next" button in the bottom corner of the animation. ツ
I don't get how to understand 3d forms. What should I do? Read Hampton? Drawabox?
>>7220969I'd start with something simple like drawabox or the dynamic sketching general. No point in trying to draw figures if you can't wrap your head around primitive forms.
>>7220969Is this yours? because the person who drew picrel get it.
>>7220969i don't think i'm in rigth to recommend, but i would recommend to stick to hampton's analytical figure drawing course for some weeks, grinding hundrends of gestures, OR start with vilppu instead, because he literally teach what you're trying to do. better do both.in my opinion drawing gestures without understanding of basic anatomy is senseless, and i mean knowledge of bones in first place.
any tips on how to improve at drawing like this? sorry pretty new to drawing.
quick noses study
>>7221001Condom benis gloryhole :DDD
>>7220504woah thanks!
How I draw suggestive booba
>>7220960You drew her so cute!!! <3 Thank you a ton man! I had no idea about that invisible button, I've never used /f/ before and it's pretty cool that's an option. I wish you had a twitter so I could rt all the stuff you made.
>>7221008Water balloon shape
>>7221008g-hentaig/2092639/ac40d8f8ff/g/2867608/f0f9d2b4a0/
>>7221006damn I see it :/
This is the most fun I've ever had drawing. Q
>>7221043What are you doing anyway? Just doing hand studies or is this some kind of exercise you found?
>>7221045I'm drawing the ASL alphabet using my hand as reference, with the intent on improving my skill with drawing hands.
it's SO over i can't believe it, i guess you need talent to draw faces. i think i tried every resourse about portraits, nothing helps to improvei think i will try to copy some loomis book from start to end, maybe copypill will help me
Ref + imagination
Just draw, bwo.
>>7221079Very cool I like this
>>7220547lineart on a screenless tablet is a nightmare. I don't want to go back
>>7220587it looks cool. Slight nitpick but If you raise the jacket a little bit to be a little underneath the nose it'll look a little more natural
>>7221086vlog? would love to see the end result
>>7220661Johan Vasquez influence, that's cool. I think you have too much space in every panel. It makes it hard for me to see what I'm looking at because my eyes go to the empty space around everyone. You just have to make them take up more of the frames and make the background a darker valueYour lettering needs work too for the same reasons, the lettering is too far apart and there's no harmony to how theyre arranged. It makes me want to read every sentence individually instead of all together. It reads like this:>I would like a fatty patty>Large size with extra fries>And nuggetsIt doesn't work. I also think you need to make your speech bubbles more like actual speech bubbles.I attached an example from the panty and stocking comic for better example of lettering, hope this helps.
>>7221100https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/62429875
>>7221004kek, follow prokos nose tutorials bro
>>7221136Don't bother, shark anon is gonna shark
What kind of brushes could replicate this look, and is it achievable with just a default round brush?
bleghfeel like i'm swinging back and forth between old habits and new onesdrawing people as boxes feels too restricting, and i can't really do itso them i'm like okay i'll draw rounded formsthen i end up symbol drawing the whole thing againi'm too tired to deal with scott robertson and his damn planes and stuff, so this is all i did todaysadge
heres half a copy here that i scanned in and wasnt happy with, inks ok, but getting used to digitals hard
>>7221154>>7221086>>7220969GET THE FUCK OUT OF THIS THREAD
>>7220545it's over
idc what he does I always always defend Pawell because he made such a great page by page personally formatted translation of the Xiao Wei Chun book that's helping me a ton even if it's MTL, no other anon has been autistic enough to do something like that, Pawell daisukii nanodesu
>>7221169read the thread title nigger
>>7221179*I will always defend
>>7221154Maybe you just need another cutie with pointy tits.
i have been wasting so much fucking time. im losing my mind right now because i decided to beat my head against the wall and draw shitty anime girls for 3 years instead of actually studying fucking anything. i think everything ive drawn that looks decent has been incidental. sorry for bitching i am just really mad at myself.
>>7221202Bro. All loners did it. First, don't suffer alone. Everyone has the right to be stupid, but you mustn't telling yourself it's burden you carry alone. Look. All you need to do is beat that ego into submission and learn to follow guidelines. That's what it is all about. Set yourself that you get it right. Right now, you can't put 3d objects into space correctly. What's the big deal? If you studied perspective, put down those guidelines, that star. Proportions are wrong? Fine. Block out major points. On this grid you can place the 2d shapes. The you give them depth with your star grid. Once your brain calms down and starts looking for these helpful cues things will get easier and more consistent. I was punching my thigh.
>>7221154study frazetta figure drawings>>7221150A watercolor brush will give you the softness you are looking for, but noise and textures are what will make it feel more pleasing and organic. Noise is tricky, not much is written about it, at least in an artistic setting, even the worst noise generators are too simple, you don't have much control over the end result.I think a noise aimed at the midrange and a variance of ~5% can get you closer to what you want. Try this noise and put the layer in overlay mode.https://i.postimg.cc/4xQkH7Td/gray-noise-50-55.pngfor better results I would use the noise like a screentone on selected parts and play around with the levels curve of the noise.
Dumbass question but when is the right time to consider comms? How does one even get started?
>>7221236the right time is earlier than you expect. some folks will pay for abject garbage
>>7221193
How do I choose brushes? I'm relatively new into this and all of my effort goes into trying to figure out how to draw poses and proportions and perspective on a sketch level with zero regard to lines, so I'm not sure if I need any of this information, but I'm curious about brushes. People often mention brushes in context of "oh no i lost all of my data, and worst of all my brushes", "i'm trying new software and i don't have my brushes nothing is good", so it has to be bit of a big deal.>Do you have different brushes for sketching and different ones for drawing it right?>What exactly makes a brush good for the job?>Why wouldn't a standard set of brushes be good enough for you? What exactly is it that your own brushes are doing better?>Or am I overthinking it, and I should stick with meme g-pen or basic small airbrush until I get good enough to naturally get an understanding of why it's important?thank you for completing my survey
>>7221262You don't need different brushes. You need settings to control size and opacity.
>>7221262https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nt9fa8jZUE
CALL 1-800-HOWS-MY-ANIME-GURL
>>7221273
Trying to think of the ten most popular songs in early cartoons
>>7221273>>7221275destroys my will to livevery cute design. i like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwHvyqNDUvE
>>7221273>>7221275i love her
>>7221268That's an interesting take, thanks. Guess I can try that, no idea if it'll take me anywhere because it's very different from putting lines next to other lines, but it's worth a shot regardless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V6ZeTBJlew
Grinding charcoal and hair, having a hard time erasing, I don't know if it's the paper or if my kneaded eraser is broken.
>>7221283The best takeaway from that video is DON'T OVERTHINK IT, if you're learning it barely matters what you use, as long as it's simple
where do you think I should put her left hand to?
>>7221288
>>7221307Next time please resize your images.
>>7220877Thanks.Her jawline was bugging me but you fixed it perfectly.
>>7220877Heres the original pic for reference
>>7221309awesome i like your playfulness! unfortunately i don't have enough space to play around with your idea. now you've got me interested in how to seamlessly append more paper.
>>7221329Glad you got a kick out of it :)
>>7221313I think that looks a bit stiff with hands there
>>7221333
>>7221079did some more
>>7221193Hot.
>>7220969Any chance that you could share a pack of her pics?
>>7221288Kneaded erasers don't completely erase anything, even non charcoal. Get some other erasers to get deeper. Also get an electric eraser.
>>7221202Your problem is not enjoying those moments enough. Turn them into fun memorable moments. Go to artistic events, get in touch with other artists. Don't remember this artistic phase as a time that you spent alone and with out any memorable situations.Someone wrote above that "Pawell has been grinding for three years here and he doesn't improve". "Three years" is fucking NOTHING. This is a fucking marathon, you need to build a life to accommodate this passion that will take decades of your time. Don't suffer it, enjoy it. 28 years of age is the perfect age to do or start anything. Keep your artistic passion in a safe place. You don't need a career to get a job nowadays. You just need to meet people. Remember a friendship overshadows everything. Someone will hire a person more because of trust than because of knowledge or "titles". Someone you met will tell you, "I need someone to fill this position, if you could learn to do this you can have it", that's how you get jobs nowadays. Meet people, have fun. Go to places.
messy
>>7221360>>7221361>>7221362>>7221363>>7221364>>7221365>>7221366stop spamming, faggot
>>7221368lol, where's your post?
>>7221369right here >>7220672 and here >>7221357 and here >>7221045 and here >>7220682 and here >>7220530
>>7221373>stop spamming, faggot
>>7221377Am I supposed to feel bad that my drawing sucks or something? I don't give a shit. But what does that have to do with you spamming up the thread? Make a fuckin collage and post one image. Dick face.
>>7221379what a mouth on this sailor
>>7221379>Am I supposed to feel bad that my drawing sucks or something?no never said that but that pupper was out of order.
Bummer. Maybe next time.
I am practising Loomis heads, and I am enjoying the process, and I am reading through "drawing the head and hands" by Loomis. However, now I have some question about the jawline, as I am not really sure how I am supposed to connect it from this angle. Also did I cut the side of the cranium with the right amount? It looks a little wrong to me
>>7220504New to digital painting, why does this look so amateurish?
>>7221193Shit. You got me. She hot.
>>7221404Because it's bad, displeasing and unfinished.
>>7221404That's fucking hot, it just looks unfinished.
I thought it would be fun to draw the teacher from Hoshikuzu Telepath in one of her students' cheerleader outfits so that's what I did.How do I draw pom poms in a way that isn't tedious?
>>7221406>>7221410Thats the problem, i dont know what else to add to it (and i dont mean the background)
>>7221008Tried to make the pose more interesting>>7221035Nice thanks, I will make some boobies studies from that>>7221040Now I can't unseen it>>7221396Nice work! Solid hands n feet bro>>7221405I see the Candy Shop nipples on there
>>7221404values
>>7221419Hmm yeah now i kinda see it, thanks
Instead of doing something meaningful today I started doing this somethig. Well safe to say Miura I am not, but to be fair I haven't really studied composition yet , or drapery , or light and shadows, or anatomy, or perspective. Come to think of it what the fuck have I been doing all this time? I need to rethink my approach to learning.>>7221403the head you are drawing and reference are not at the same angle, for me it helps to try and line up your palm with the front of the reference to figure out how it looks in 3d space. Also the chin should be outside and to the right of the circle of the head
>>7221357its weird because even going from dark to mid tone is hard not like it used to be thats why i think its busted, i will try with another paper later.> Also get an electric eraser.hacking my way through an atm.
Started plein air and finished at the camp site. I love how portable watercolors are
>>7221413If that's the case, it's finished - as you can make it be. Now you check what is wrong with it, and study it. You go super basic, the very formulaic cubes, forms and shapes and with references, that you think are more pleasing attempt to recreate those imagining what was author doing when he was drawing that. (That of course means, you are not looking at photographs).
>>7221458Churchillian.
>>7221403Don't go to the next step unless they look the same to you
>>7221456>going from dark to mid tone is hardFor this you should only have to dab your kneaded on the charcoal. Vary your pressure for varying levels of value.
>>7221442Thanks for the tip! I tried to take the chin out of the circle, and I think it turned it out better.
>>7221465oh shit thanks anon! I will retry the exercise from scratch
>>7221465Take pictures with flash
My portraits are so bad, so I decided to copy Loomis' "Drawing Head and Hands". I'm not sure how am I supposed to do it, so I decided just do what Pawell does, and draw some heads from references in the end. I hope it will help. Anyway, I have too much free time.
>>7221520>a second Pawell
>>7220504Lick
>>7221535Anon this is fucking beautiful. Thanks.
Back to portrait grinding
>>7221465I tried for a while getting the perspective to look identical. It was difficult, and I can't tell if it still really wrong or not.
>>7221154check out steve huston, he teaches how to use boxes for figures in a very simple way
Mfw I’m finally proficient enough to draw the retarded crap that comes to my mind.
>>7221564It was dark as fuck on the streetsMy hands were all bloody from punching on the concreteGod damn, homieMy mind is playing tricks on me
>>7221520
>>7221564Handsamu...
some poses. i can't understand inner thigh area, it's impossible to depict
>>7221591Beautiful shapes anon. NICE.
>>7220573A bit weird for the loose clothe to stick to her chest area >>7220587You should shape the lip area rather than making it straight >>7220790I’d make her right pupil a bit more to the left bc it’s giving her strabismus>>7221004The most realistic nose you did isn’t quite bad you should stick to it imo>>7221273Be careful of symmetry >>7221275 those are really nice >>7221307Hidden next to her hip would look the more relaxed I think (arm on her side)
>>7221154>>7221193Brother, take the Will Weston pillScott Robertson is one of the biggest demotivating traps out there, even though I'm a mechanical engineer, his book was boring as fuck to readThat shit is literally what you learn in an industrial drawing class, now if you are not interested in drawing machinery and want to learn figures, avoid that book
>>7220547Can you draw with your tablet anywhere or just on table? I ask this because I've always draw with my fingers on my phone.I can do it basically everywhere that's not on public.
>>7221615There are two types of display tablets, those that need to be powered by a computer (cintiq, kamvas etc) and those that are completely autonomous like a cell phone (ipad, samsung)in the case of the latter, you can draw anywhere, myself I like to draw while lying in bed
>>7221280she says she wants you to live and design another day
This sucks
>>7221639I like the area around forehead and eyes, the shading is effective to see the planes. The ear could use the same process.On some level, it feels like you're trying to draw more detail in the hair. Just block and shade it as if it was more face.
>>7221639Nah man, it's nice.
>>7221649Even if it looks OK on its own, it's lost so much likeness from the subject that I consider it a fail.
>>7221219>>7221613Disgusting non permabeg, your words are meaningless
>>7221651Well I wish I could draw a portrait half as good as that one
>>7221672You can. Looking at what you've done, I firmly believe that's achievable with enough practice and self-discipline. How much that will take is up to you. When drawing a portrait, it's important to try to draw as much of the subject as possible below the head, to avoid it looking like a severed head. Study planes of the face with Asaro heads, study different head construction methods, find what works for you, what doesn't, combining what works from different methods. Measure your subject by finding their mid-point. Block out the major shapes, drawing out where the light and shadow interact, with definition being the last thing you want to add. Proko has good free lessons on facial features. Practice drawing from life as much as you can, photos can only make you as good at drawing photos. For eyes, draw around the reflection of light in the eyes to add an easy spark of life to them. Try to have fun with it, take mistakes in stride and utilize them to make future drawings better. Take everything I've suggested with a grain of salt as I am still learning myself. When you've drawn something you would like critique for, crop out everything but the drawing and resize the picture to be max 1000 pixel length/width.
>>7221680also I'm tired/high/ESL and missed the "half" part. you can definitely draw better than how I draw now. I'm ashamedly old af too, I started taking drawing seriously 8 years ago.
Hello beg, drawing necks is tricky. No wonder anime drawers do them like 2 lines>>7221639very nice>>7221608man the overall skill of beg increased. is this because of summer and more drawers have time to post? also what is that heart shaped thing stone?>>7221557usually begs put eyes too high on the skull. curiously you did the opposite>>7221520>copying my layout down to the watermarks and memesLMAO. i kneel>>7221458very nice. you are the real tradchad>>7221411the same way you draw hair: you simplify and imply the texture. chapter called textures in keys to drawing>>7221396cute. her feet are the weakest>>7221277SOUL>>7221262krita has built in around 100+ brushes. All you need is there. Simply try out new brush every day and mark the less shitty ones as your favorite>>7221236the moment people pester you to draw them something>>7220859perspective (backgrounds), composition, warm vs cold colors>>7220708>Memory recallposts like yours persuaded me that some people dont even look at the posted work. Why do you think everything on the canvas is doubled? Because the other one is memory recall>>7220672i kneel>>7220659>no way you will learn to draw just by copyingi see. so nobody ever learned how to draw from observation nor master copies, all these books, all these art schools and all these artists who say they get gud by drawing billion things (from observation, aka copying) are wrong>they can see what their problems aremy biggest problem are beg looking figures. and the only way to get better is to keep drawing figures>I see no progressi think you arent drawer yourself and mistook lack of rendering for lack of progress>>7220649anon i dont wanna crab you, but calling this finished is... heresy
>>7221681I'm old too, 37. I only started taking it seriously at the end of April.
>>7221682The heart shaped thingy is a gummy candy magnet, can’t answer your other question
>>7221520>>7221682The thread lack schizos. I miss the old schizos so much. ~zzz~ is also gone now.
>>7221520>bandicamchefs kiss you are a master of your craft
guys, i swear, triangular nose looks so much better, but you say me to draw normal one...
is this perspective close-ish to the angles of the box? and is the feature placement ok?
>>7221712The head should be a bit more elongated, everything else seems to be ok, except for the short forehead and neck placement.
>>7221712lmao
>>7221712>>7221403>>7221465>>7221558>>7221731lmao nice crabing
>>7221712Can I use this for an album cover?
Just some normal figure studies
>>7221740big peepee
/turbobeg/ here, started drawing on the right side of the braininitial self portrait looks like an FtM version of me
>why is my art so bad i started drawing 2 seconds ago
>>7221737Depends. If you're a Top 40 artist, I'll consider it.
This is what you draw if you get fat fetish in late 20s
>>7220504I still have hope I can convince people I'm a NGMI and talent is real. What do I need to do to convince you that I will never be able to draw no matter what I can visualize in my head?
>>7221800Still better than Elon Musk drawing
>>7221906pyw
>>7221731Thanks that is helpful
>>7220971Drawabox and Dynamic sketching. Will try to get those.>>6220973Thanks. Do I?>>7220985Will try Hampton. Thanks.>>7221169Why?>>7220969I got this from /ic/ thread. Try searching. I can't hand this because it would be illegal.
>>7221906You are ngmi by virtue of never putting in the effort. It's hard work. And you naturally understand too that hard work has nothing to do with talent. Play Dark Souls. Same thing.
>>7220617I have a 2024 S6 lite and it's really nice to draw on. got it brand new but they go out of stock nonstop though.>>7221905lovely linework but the gesture feels slightly stiff, when I had that issue, 90 second gesture sketches helped me a lot on quickposes dot com
>>7221968Dark Souls is easy.>>7221909All I can give you are stickmen.
>>7221464Huh, I guess I do have his wonky perspective tendencies, albeit without the playful use of color
I am actually doing this meme practice
Are eyes particularly jarring? If that's the case, can you pinpoint the possible reason? I can see a million different eye drawing styles, trying to slap together something that would make me happy, but every time I draw eyes, I feel like they're bad on fundamental level and yet I can't put it into words. Shape of eyelashes, perspective, iris coloring, lack of feeling of depth? Or maybe just wrong iris shape?
>>7222071It would help to begin with a truly 3D head shape. I like her lashes but the eyes look like they've been applied via texture map. It looks like the ref would be a selfie that doesn't consider her as a 3D 'object'.It's also an interesting combined expression, taken together it looks like the cat suggests that she's happy to brainstorm on a project, maybe a bit oblivious to the observer. Seems like it would be an interesting character to develop in a comic.
>>7222075By "truly 3D head shape", you mean that I should keep in mind head geometry (possibly draw some kind of a helper grid), and then try gently gradient-shading around shapes? Or is it something else?Thanks for the idea praise. I didn't think much of it, just took on this idea because it'd be amusing to see a character with a cat on head that reacts to whatever's happening around either in sync with character, or in complete opposite, or outright spoiling girl's real emotions against her will. Now that someone praised it, I like it quite a bit more.
>>7222070High/beg/>>7222071Pre/beg/
How does your know if symbolism drawering?
>>7222070There are at least 20+ anons tried to copy Bridgman. All of them drop the book within the first week.
>>7222097i passed first week
>>7222096what do you think symbol drawing is?
>>7222101Oh really? did you finish the book? I think not! :)
Shit
>>7222097I'm not frazetta, I'm a slow burner I'm at torsos will take me like 2 weeks to finish that part.
>>7222119Is whhen ytou draw bad.
>>7221169You were saying? I am basically permabeg tier. I belong here.
>>7222097I think the secret to actually finishing bridgeman copy is liking that style, if you’re just struggling through it for information you’re rarely going to use than you’re just asking to get burned out, I think the most important thing about learning how to draw is drawing what you love.
What is this hairstyle? I swear it's real I saw a few girls tie their ponytails pointing upward
This is messing with my brain.
Arm muscles had no reason being this complex. Oh, the struggle...
>>7222160Lost a bit of nose definition. Do broad sweeps on the hair and then try to smudge highlights out of it.
Ok. I still will need to watch couple more videos about this thing, but so far so good.
does anyone mind drawing some anatomy boxes on this for me? especially the pelvis. cant seem to observe it properly
>>7222332probably wrong but
>>7222344cool thanks
>>7222332The point of this box exercise is to understand1. The direction of the bod parts2. How forms overlapYou don't need to place the head exactly into the box, but you have to get the direction right. Vilppuu has 1 or 2 lesson on it.
>>7222363>How forms overlapI feel like I'm insanethe pelvis doesnt look right at all and I cant picture it properly
How's my rendering/shapes?
>>7222370You have to learn it yourself. Download Vilpuu box forms videos, listen carefully, watch how he breaks the body down, and draw along. Do it for like 20 - 30 figures and you'll get it.
>>7222344https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKqIJcIUCw
Todays attempt I’ll redo it more clean in about an hour but a few criticism before that would help >>7222377It’s a bit rough I would blend more, don’t forget to have really soft and really sharp shadow edges >>7222330Widen the shoulders >>7222239Their using hair claw/clip Try Googling hair clip ponytail
Good night.
>>7222377if that's supposed to be metal then you did a shit job
weird star wars art but im wondering if anyone has any advice for adding cloth/should i use like black as a value to add weight? im far from done but just wondering what i should do i just use color blocks as stand ins for things i haven't painted yet>>7222377that's amazing
>>7222484nah, just matte forms without thinking about the material
>insults a post>doesn't post own workngmi>commends a post>posts own commendable workgmi
me and the round brush against the world
upped the level correction/contrast thing and now the values look better at least, i want to add details and fix symmetry stuff later >>7222504wow your concept of form/the 3d values of the face are really good
>>7222446Your features look misaligned, they should feel/look parallel to each other. you should look at more portraits because the features of the face are not that far apart to distort them in the way you describe them, e.g. the eye doesn't really change in size, but it overlaps and turns a little on the face.
>>7222519Wow you responded just as I sat at my desk too draw ! Thank you so much for taking the time it’s great motivation !
>>7222524you are doing great, don't be afraid measuring things a drawing compass is a great investment for this, have fun!
>>7222377dem THIGHS!
>>7220504test
>>7222377the leg gives me picrel vibes
I've played all of the good games and i'm sick and tired of mindlessly replaying factorio. I've decided to go in on drawing in order to fill out my time.What's the step 1? I'm down to spend dozens of hours on this since i have literally nothing going on.
>>7222556try drawing somethingI'm serious, there's no single path to take here. You have to draw something a couple times, then you'll surely get a very general idea on what do you want to do and where do you want to take it. If you really love order and logic above all else, I guess you can google how to make lines for a a 1-point perspective and then build something around it, assuming you didn't have that in art lessons through early school. Drawing is something you piece together on your own, it's really hard to point out an exact starting point.
>>7222556JOIN /FIG/ TODAY >>7217459Engage with the /FIG/ artist's feedback. Post your daily figs.Get ref models here >>7203947And start a new life of artistic grandeur, adventure and pleasure.
>>7222556It's pretty much shapes, construction, rendering going in a circleSo you can start with cube and shapes for some minutes to kinda get perspective, planes and movementThen take a look at body proportion tutorials and do a lot of /fig/, whether it's quick gesture or actually measuring and capturing the formFinally, you'll want to study about shading or lineart, "blocking out" features and shadowsYou learn from making multiple okay attempts until you build the routine to measure, draw and self-correct
I like adding pink airbrush
I feel like I improved a lot thanks to the anon from earlier. >>7222556Also draw stuff that you genuinely enjoy so you don’t get bored of it
>>7222590Forgot pic
>>7222591day and night difference, brilliant save man gmi. You will improve greatly by watching Steve Huston free videos and studying charcoal portraits from masters.
Man, such a nice rewarding feeling when you see that you're making progress, i practiced a lot today, brain is tired from all the thinking and analyzing.
>>7222634Nvm, just noticed that the thumb muscle is going over the extensor digitorum, which is wrong... Why am i noticing it just now...
barg
anything glaring before going to lineart?
>>7222621Thank you for the kind word and the recommandation, he is very relaxing to listen to.
>>7222664Forgot pic again
>>7222638>he drew the thumb muscle over the extensor digitorumguys, he's ngmi
>>7222665Istg
>>7222666>he drew the thumb muscle over the extensor digitorumhaha, what a fuckin loser
>>7222668Oookay.... so what do we do now guys?
>>7222666Some anon also drew the thumb muscle over the extensor digitorum once. Pic related its his art after years of grinding
do you know any anatomy tutorials that also teach how to NOT draw some body parts?
>>7222668Hey homonigthe face is way more turned in your refIf you're straight up copying a ref picture don't draw shit you can't seethe tip of the nose is a useful "anchor point" in three quarter
>>7222675Scott Eaton has some lessons called gallery abominate, he highlights anatomy errors on people's works.
>>7222666What's a ngmi, guys
As always, the doodle process is the best part.
>>7222681>doesn't know what ngmi meansanon is not gonna make it
>>7222694Uuuhhhhhhh.....
>>7222668pre/beg/ doesn't even look remotely like him>>7222682mid/beg/>>7222694upper tier/beg/
>>7222677Ty I couldn’t tell why it was so different that makes more sense now. >>7222694Tried fixing the top part a bit, the bottom part is really fucked tho you should start over with a ref
>>7222694oh my god
>>7222702>Tried fixing the top part a bit, the bottom part is really fucked tho you should start over with a refi got tired at the end, i just thought it was funny to share>upper tier/beg/i'd rate myself much lower, i only have a bunch of drawings like that
>>7222694>>7222702Join /FIG/ today >>7217459
>>7222717make her pregnant...and i'll join
>>7222719Fuck I scrapped the layer already. You have to place the belly bump between her back legs, not the front legs. okay give me a minute, I have an idea.
my stylus died while i was drawing this so i guess ill have to finish it later>>7222682holy fucking fake beginner cute as hell
>>7222719General anatomy isn't that hard to understand and to tweak around. Do enough figures and your head will do the math.
>>7222744wow, deal
>>7222739Oh my god that's hot. Saved!
>>7222753wow thank you!! i hope to draw more of her
>>7222744wow, fast, acurrate, degenerate. I'll join as well.
applying a bullet to brain will surely keep the bad thoughts away
>>7222852It took much more than a bullet to cure Nero's bad thoughts... amirite?... lolCool skull
some sketches and paintings from the last few days
>>7222744Now THIS is a top tier fetish.
>Post shit drawing>Anon tells me to fundies>Still have no fucking idea what fundies are or why it will take me from shit drawing to less shit drawingWhat are fundies to you and how did you study them? Does it help?
>>7222903drawing accuratelyperspective/formlight and colorgestureanatomy
>>7222903You can easily search for a drawing fundies video on youtube where pros tell you exactly how to grind for them, but instead you ask for the answer from a bunch of schmuck that can barely draw and will 9 out of 10 tell you that fundies are meme/begtraps.KYS you lazy FAG.
Fish Tiddies
>>7222913>>7222912Video? Has it worked for you? I am not trolling or anything. I am just very lost.
>>7222903Anatomy and perspective basically. It's like those little wheels on kids bicycles, you know?The things you would say "Well, duhh", but YOU NEED those broad guidelines to pick up drawing momentum. You need to get an habit of drawing everytime you can, to get it into your system. You need to build a new natural ability. To actually build an artistic skill at a physiological material level in your person. This is not like "tasting food", or reading books, you need to PUT THE WORK ON IT. It's like me saying I'm gonna do back flips now, what do I have to do!.. "Well, You have to train every fucking day, change your diet and daily routine" and I would reply, "Shit, really? there must be an easier way..." No there's not. you have to put the real work on it. If you want to get THAT.So go to /FIG/ and start grinding figures. Simple figures, simple shapes, silhouettes, gotta learn that anatomy man. There's no other way >>7217459
>>7222917>https://youtu.be/XeIR7P82aPU?si=SB1HJa1m9UeBLCHoLet a GIRL tell you how to draw dick sucker. To the point and concise.
>>7222861it's so over, it was meant to be marcus aurelius
>>7222937>it's so over, it was meant to be marcus aureliusYou're kidding me right? That's hilarious. Aaaahhh god, I love this board.
samsung tab or ipad?
>>7222963si it supposed to be sary?
>>7222979No I was just struggling to find a simple yet characteristic, dynamic, analytical, form-feeling, gestural rhythm for the eyes
>>7222638KWAB
I'm learnding, okay? At least I had fun.
>tilt hip backwards on female characters, says internet in quick internet tips for drawing>tilted hip backwards>looks nicer than usual>also started noticing that good half of animu girl art online has hip tilt, and it's always niceone more tiny little improvement. today was a good day
>want to play around with paint>can't find any good material because everyone focus on oil painting or figure drawing
>>7223027I love doing that too but it can look a bit awkward from side profile.
was looking at some art of mine from around November and was wondering if the blueish palettes are okay for learning, i liked the way they looked more than the grayscale.
Who are some good Japanese artists to learn gesture/sketching from? i've tried Hide Ch's stuff but it always feels so stiff and boxyalternatively, should I just learn from Vilppu or Hampton instead?
>>7223089Yoshikazu Hamada, Tsugumomo guy hes known for having the super autist drawing set ups and references, he streams quite a bit and there used to be some archives of it
is drawing along with streamers good motivation?
>>7223123whatever keeps the boat afloat is good
hmb.. kinda happy I did this within 2 days but man gacha designs are too damn complicated at times
how bad is the shoulder area?
>>7223163>generic anime girl, but with horns>too complicated
>>7223167Let's see your generic anime girl
I'm almost understanding how this works. Almost.
How do my sphere's look?These feel like second nature to me now, but anywhere where I can improve? Do my circles look okay? Or are they still wonky as fuck (only been drawing for a few months since late last year).
>>7223167how is it generic
>>7223200>How do my sphere's look?Like spheres
>>7223169>>7223191>>7223197here you are sir
>>7223206I mean do they look bad? how can I improve them?
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