If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7359755
can i download ctrl+paint free videos from something else than youtube?
>>7361299all donesomething like this it's supposed to be the cover of the selt titled Giles Corey albumI messed up the proportions though, and at some point I started just doing my own thing, especially with the cloth which was confusing and difficult but fun to draw
>>7361323There are some cool textures going on there. I can tell you put a lot of effort into this. It looks like it was out of your comfort zone as well. Good stuff anon.
>>7361327Thanks! It was quite scary but fun to draw I feel like I learned a lot
>>7361308can't think of anything specific to draw so i'm testing my memory. gabumon from memory makes me laugh for real.
Still can't figure latex out
reminder not to engage with obvious crabs
>>7361389post your work
There's one!
>>7361389
Is tracing over 3d models cheating?
>>7361413There's never cheating in art, there's only depriving yourself of enjoyment.
>>7361389>the ways you huntwhoever wrote this is underagealso, post ur work :)
>>7361413Tracing is a tool.Copying is a tool.Referencing is a tool.Prompting is a tool.
Any tips on this painting joint?
>>7361389Entire website is gaslighting central.Here's one right here >>7361403
>>7361413thee is no cheating in art.... unless you are fully just copying another person's art as it is.do you think some faggot will be able to sue you for copying over a hand or two or just by using "their pose"? No. If araki can get away with "this", you can do it too.
been a while since i last posted here but i feel like i'm getting stuck in a lack of improvement with drawings like this>>7361323the textures are amazing in thisthe one thing i'd say to try is to get some of the darker areas on the left just as dark as you got the darker areas on the right hand side>>7361422the painting itself in terms of the background is very well done, especially with how much info it conveys, but i'd say to make the skin tones a bit less desaturated and to consider the pose and how realistic it'd be for someone to be sat in that way for next time (though this isn't a glaring issue)
Thoughts and tips? Am I NGMI?
>>7361474Head is connected to the neck at a weird placeThe hands are both small and weirdLiterally the same mistakes I make, and I'm optimistic about myself, so you're GMIAlso the thighs are of different size wtf, rest of the pose doesn't imply it should be from any foreshorteningThe shoulder in the back looks brokenStill not abysmal for a sketch stage
>>7361474how many years have you been drawing and how many thousands of floating boxes have you grinded?
>>7361431You sound crazy.
>>7361389Basedparty literally has 3rd graders that frequent their board and post.
>>7361503Continue proving me right with your replies.
>>7361448>the textures are amazingthanks! I don't know how I did thatthanks for the tip as well, gonna do some valuemaxxing I like the colours in your work btw
>>7361448What was your process for this? I'm attempting to paint and your style seems similar to what I want to achieve.
>>7361380you won't be getting a latexy shiny effect with your pensgrab a black marker or something and a white gelpen and go ape shit
Looking for a torrent or filed from Steve Hustons Painting Course from The New Masters Academy or anything really related to Steve Huston and painting Ive found some places with the courses like courseupload,psdly,godownloads...etc but all of them require you to be a member and give money to download anywith over 1.5 gigabytes and ofc most of the files are over that amount.. Would appreciate any help
>>7361535What brand do you recommend?
how do i just draw? anytime i try drawing i spend an hour deciding on a ref and end up not drawing. i dont like the sites that give you a random ref either. any advice?
>>7361558I just....draw
Very important, a birthday present for my mom. It doesnt have to be a perfect copy but see anything to improve it?
>>7361548OCC has a bunch of his courses.
>>7361560but what do you draw...
>>7361558draw the random ref. doesnt matter if it comes out ugly. force yourself to draw whatever ref it gives you
>>7361565honestly anon.. You nailed it. Good job!
>>7361558draw without a ref.
>>7361558Here you go, draw this
>>7361571you're probably correct, my only problem is most random refs are too ugly or boring or too weird but maybe im just too picky idk>>7361574i don't feel like i improve at all that way>>7361577ok that looks fun actually
>>7361550literally whatever you want it's just a black marker or use a brush penbefore you actually do it, throw your drawing into photoshop/krita whatever you use and colour it there so you don't ruin your drawing on your first attempt
Any glaring mistakes, any suggestions for skill improvement? Except for drawing on a bigger canvas next time.Thanks.
>>7361525i use a flat watercolour brush on firealpaca and draw over my lines in order to get the blurriness in places instead of colouring the line layer! i also do most of my shading on one or two layers so it blends welli hope this helps :D
>>7361610drapery overlapping and contour lines, looks flats.
>>7361308How to i draw backgrounds?Also how to i maximize my gains from copying?
>>7361577
Did a quick drawing.
>>7361566what does that even stand for
>>7361567anime girl...pretty
>>7361636perspectiveconstruction
>>7361638So when I want to approach drawing something like this, is the first step always to make general shapes that imply the rest of the drawing? Or do I just start freehanding what I see?
>>7361671you can do whatever you want, but if you lack practical skills starting with more general shapes and working your way to more specific and refined shapes is simply going to yield relatively better results. it's much easier to lose the bigger picture when you freehand a drawing, but if you want to be able to do that well at some point by all means work on it to some extent.
How do you guys define your art studying goals. Right now I'm just taking a reference, doing a ~5-10min figure drawing and moving on. Not really focusing on anything in particular and not really moving in a specific direction, stagnating.I have the idea that I want to get "better" but I can't clearly decide what that means.
>>7361673do longer studies. focus on accuracy
>>7361673I'm day 8 of practicing about 4 hours a day, so don't take anything I'm saying as advice, I'm mostly looking for critique off your prompt.I start with an hour of drawing shapes, lines, and cubes, then practice for about two hours of 3/4ths perspective faces, finishing with an hour (or more depending on the day) of trying to apply forward facing/profile facing/ three-fourths perspective faces to different references I find.
>>7361673>I have the idea that I want to get "better" but I can't clearly decide what that means.I don't mean this in a rude way, but I really don't think that matters. the more direction you have the better (I suppose), but if you have a vague sense which is clear *enough* to get you on the right track and you can make good progress with that knowledge, who cares if your definition of "better" isn't perfectly clear?for me, I'm more or less just taking it one fundamental at a time. e.g., I'm trying to learn basic ways to break down the figure and simplifications of anatomy, so I'm going through Steve Huston's figure drawing book. the goal is simply to get *some* knowledge of what he's talking about and be able to apply it to actual drawings. then I might work on portraiture. there, more broadly, my goal is to improve the accuracy and process of my portraits. the specifics of that depend on the resource I will choose. you can let those "speak" for you and do your best to follow along - acknowledging that you're not gonna "learn" anatomy or rendering or construction merely by going through a book or a video course over the span of a month or more. also,>Right now I'm just taking a reference, doing a ~5-10min figure drawing and moving onI recommend adding a mix of longer figure drawings into your study regimen. shorter drawings are fine, and perhaps as a beginner or even intermediate most of your drawings should be shorter (<2hrs), but there's only so much you can do in 10 minutes. sometimes are problems are not that we don't have the knowledge, we just don't give ourselves the best opportunity to realize it in a drawing: sometimes we do that by limiting the time we allot ourselves for a drawing.
>>7361673>How do you guys define your art studying goalsI use Naoki Saito's approach of disassembling, copying, restudying a single artist I like for 3 monthsThe goal, progress, and figuring out what I need to do couldn't be clearer
>>7361638Loved this reference
Practice
>>7361723now practice properly posting images, dipshit. just kidding, of course. keep up the study anon.
Thread's pose.
>>7361730
Can I get some critique about this construction?
>>7361744B-blog?
>>7361744This is the reference.>>7361745@zootworks_ok on twitter.
>>7361747>All that doto fanartI wasted 4674 hours on that thing before I dropped it.
>>7361744what purpose do the horizontal lines above and below the eyes have? and why would you not use a vertical line over the front of the face to better align the eyes with the (hypothetical) nose?
>>7361749I didn't spend time on the head yet, I focused more on the body so they don't really mean anything.just some throwaway lines. thanks for the pointers tho, I will try that for the face.
>>7361747Say...Are these two from the old country??
Friendly reminder you don't need skill to make ithttps://x.com/Arkeus_165/
>>7361774mogs me
>>7361774uhh krenzbros? barguebros?? our response?
>>7361774I find their stuff quite unappealing, but 1. there's a difference between having less skill and having no skill, and 2. instead of hate/meme-posting you could be gaining more skills yourself. you yourself know you would ultimately prefer the latter.
>>7361774As long as you're willing to sell your soul.
>>7361774If you think this is making it, you wont make it.
>>7361774He's just lacking merely uhh anatomy, perspective, gesture, 3D formsIt's more like you need cute faces, rendered flesh, passable hair to reliably close the distance to making it by drawing girls
>>7361774take the appealmaxx pill
>>7361308Perspective made ez
>>7361774
Didn't draw todayDrew a little yesterdayI did draw more the day beforeHow do I force myself to lock in this is terrible
>>7361813if your schedule is particularly bad, get into making a daily schedule. also, prioritize drawing. don't put it off and say "I'll do it when I get x, y and z done" when you're not even likely to do all of those in the first place; and if you are, you're still more likely to say "fuck it, I'll just draw tomorrow" at the end of it. even if it's just 10 minutes, say, try to do that as early as you can in the morning. go to bed 10 minutes earlier if you have to.
>>7361813Learn a second language. It’ll help you learn to focus more naturally
>>7361813If you struggle with focus and motivation, having a separate place where you specifically go to draw can help. If you draw on your room but that's where you sleep, browse the internet, work, and play games in, then there's already a lot of activities associated with that place and it's easy to lose focus. Drawing in another room until you create the habit of daily practice can be an option to help you focus.
Can I have crit?Hate how bad I am at drawing for how long I've been doing it.
wip
>>7361829quick rundown?? how does that work? when you say 'focus more naturally', do you mean this is achieved DURING the learnings of another language, or that (fully) learning another language allows more focus?
>>7361844if you're going to add value for the translation of color or shadow, and you're going to make them uniform (i.e. a single value), at least fill out the values and don't have little patches and spots within the value shapes.
>Yeah bro you need to learn a second language in order to draw
>>7361829if they have no intentions of learning one otherwise, it's a huge waste of time. they'd be better off just improving their habits towards drawing directly.
>>7361829I know 4 languages and I still focus worse than monolinguals who can do art streams in one sitting.
>>7361774he makes less than 1k a month on patreon thats pretty terrible for 500k followers and posting daily. checks out with his skill
>>7361863>less than 1k a monthmogs my thirdie STEM salary
>>7361844Is this from a reference? It seems like a difficult pose. Her upper half is where a lot of problems are. The skirt really nice and is much better than everything above it though.
>>7361865i guess it's making it if you're a thirdie but it's poverty level in burgerland
>>7361870idk that guy's process but he probably has a bunch of layers and other shit saved and ready to edit into more soulless coomerslop so it's possible he has it down to a minimal hobby. 1k/mo isn't bad for something like that.
>>7361577>>7361638>>7361728Pajeets used to be based apparently. >>7361747We can all agree - face of right, body of left. >>7361744Better than could do, but I'll give my thoughtsGestural wise, I think putting the cow's shoulders at different heights like in the ref adds a lot more character and dynamism to the simple pose. The cutting board's are fine down cause she looks defeated, but even she has a slight twist in the torso. You've straightened out both of their poses quite a bit besides, so unstraightening those or maybe just adding your own twists would add a lot of character to the finished piece.As for the pure construction, ignoring the ref, it looks good. Although, the perspective seems a little weird, like red girl's (I'm assuming Lina from all your Dota art) boob is nestled in between the cow's boob and her arm. And I feel like at this perspective they are standing on each other's toes - literally. I think using cylinders or at least contour lines on the limbs would be a good addition to your construction. Contours lines at the start of the arm, elbow, and wrist are usually what I do. Overall, the construction is good, it's really the gesture where I think it lacks. You art definitely has the appeal for what you're going for, I feel like you're one or two lucky retweets away from big success. Awesome work.>>7361844Take this advice with a grain of saltBiggest area you should work on is the hip/legs, the hips need to flare out more than the shoulders, especially on a woman. Her incredibly narrow hips are also making her look relatively unbalanced, which is the source of stiff poses.The facial features are also not aligned with the head, so they look worse than they actually are.
>>7361820I'm gonna try the toolkit book and follow the daily schedule idea, thanks>>7361829English is my third language and I'm more coherent in it than either of my first 2, but thanks for the advice>>7361833I live in a 2 bedroom apartment with family, there's nowhere else to go but my room. My bed is the procrastination zone where I go to doomscroll on my phone and my desk is the vidya zone and there's no room for another space dedicating to drawing here. I've had the idea of getting into my car and just stopping somewhere in the countryside to draw but after starting a new job that actually affords me the opportunity to do just that as part of the job it also turned out to be a wash.
>>7361850By “focus more naturally” I mean during AND after actually. Since you’re learning how to interpret something that’s unfamiliar/foreign, you’re naturally thinking harder than you would when reading/speaking your native tongue. By focusing intently on something that isn’t drawing, you can take the level of mental energy applied to break down how you understanding the process of making art, since making art and language learning are essentially about problems and solutions
>>7361872Nice job with the squirrels. The one at the bottom's pelvis and legs are too small compared to its torso and head. The one above it is nicely done though. The Women at the top look sloppy because of your linework. The way you shade is really unappealing as well.
>>7361888The connection between them is abstract as fuck500 duolingo reps before 500 floating loomis heads in a white void tier
>>7361895Don't do this, I now suck at drawing AND japanese!!! its so owarida!!!
>>7361892All true, thanks for the crit. The shading is just me blocking out the shadows, as for the hair - I just really like the scribble hair look. It's something I stole from Yoh Yoshinari's sketchbook.
Any advice on "closing the gap" between my imagination and referenced art levels? Should I just keep grinding refs then gauge on my progress by doing a imagination piece from time to time.
>>7361895duolingo is for those who wanna feel like they're doing something but really aren't. you're much better off actually reading, watching, listening, getting in *real* content in the language. ideally stuff that's close to, but just past your level.
>>7361442I don't think that's traced at all, descarga-kun.
>>7361902You need better taste, and eyebrows.
Shit, posting on the right thread now.
>>7361905Where does one acquire this so called "taste"?
>>7361902One way to do it is you do from imagination, list everything that didn't go too good, do designated study sessions on each thing, then revisit the conceptAnother way is using references for after you've made your imagination sketching, so you finish it. Will feel like a slog tho, depends on your mindset
>>7361901I was talking about the linework on the shoulder and arm mostly.
>>7361907If you insist on anime, watch stuff that's elegant and stylish, not the run-of-the-mill default garbage
>>7361885I have seen your progress over the past months. Good job! We can all attest that you have improve greatly. Does having a "muse" of sorts help you stay motivated/dedicated? I'm considering on picking one myself but I'm also wary of limiting my scope.I would like to read your opinion on the matter.
>>7361903Ok, let's fit the meta>500 anime titles in AJATT, 5000 Anki cards memorized and 5 JLPT exams taken before 500 loomis heads in a white void
>>7361888I know three languages, english being my third language. By your logic I should easily be able to become better
>>7361895100% what >>7361903 said. If you do Duolingo in conjunction with those things it’ll surely help but far too many just use dualingo and think they’re immersing themselves in their target language. The best way to learn a language is to forget you’re learning a language, and many ppl will say the very same thing.
>>7361913I remember watching FLCL all the way back, great animation although at times I got lost at what was happening in the show. will have to revisit it soon. Any other recs? I'm always eager to increase my visual library.
>>7361912Yeah the linework is all sloppy and fast, I mark down a lot of confident lines and rush a lot. That's something I'm working on now. Thanks again.
>>7361917Duolingo doesn't actually make you learn a language. It obly makes you memorize phrases and words, but you never learn to actually form actual sentences or amything deeper that surface level knowledge
>>7361907Look at a lot of art from different sources, save stuff you like, and trash things which dont speak to you anymore.
On a new PC. Reinstalled CSP, tablet drivers and some brushes but now I get no AA and pressure settings don't work all that well. Any idea on how to fix this?
>>7361907Disregard pointlessly randomly watching anime until random anonymous bozo decides to post on a whim that you have tastePick your most favourite artist and try to study and copy only his works for 3 months straight instead
>>7361916You should, yes. Do you use a similar process to language learning that you do with art? Do you study art, references, and read from books the same way you’d learn a language?
>>7361927But if i did that, I wouldn't be able to post it here...
>>7361921All the other Gainax stuff, earlier Trigger works, original Berserk run, Redline, Akira, Spriggan (98) etcAll of those will have imagery worth copying and studying
>>7361935Oh and the first Patlabor movie. The opening still makes me hard
>>7361906If I can get to this point in a year, I'd be happy.
Hello beg, does my photo looks a bit blurry? I cannot tell but it feels like that. Probably the super thin paper fucking me over.>>7361802finally somebody is doing perspective course. FINALLY. so many begs completely ignore this and then keep drawing anime girls in vacuum with wrong foreshortening>>7361648ask yourself: why did i draw core shadow of her jacket, but did not draw any shade on her body like legs, arms or face>>7361565i would write on left side some happy birthday poem>>7361422the colors are too brigh or washed out. it could be just bad photo and it looks okay in real life. but on my screen it really looks washed out
>>7361906very nice, looks almost like head i would see in LOOMIS book>>7361902the answer is a mix of "just draw (more)" and "do master studies">>7361885interesting choice of that squished thighs, thumbs up>>7361849cute thot, try to put a bit more effort into her hand>>7361844head in 3/4 view is foreshortened: the eyes distance shortens, the other eye shape is different and nose and mouth are no longer in middle
Gotten back to drawing after a Month or 2 continued designing the look of that femboyo from a bit ago
>>7361853do you have recs for how to physically do this?I've tried paper stumps and my finger but they always get smudgier but not necessarily more filled in>>7361868pic rel was my ref but in retrospect the ref didn't really do much for the actual pose since it covered too much>>7361872>>7361964thanks I can see that, I could have made the far eye a bit thinner
>>7361525she is in desperate need of correction
>>7361981me on the right after a solarium sesh
>>7361981Hands off my wife!
>>7361977>do you have recs for how to physically do this?>I've tried paper stumps and my finger but they always get smudgier but not necessarily more filled inidk about specific resources, but my advice would be to keep a sharp tip and minimize the erasing you do. with a duller point you're necessarily going to be missing more of the little grooves in the paper; and the more and harder you erase, the more you disrupt those grooves and it can't catch the graphite/charcoal/whatever material you're using. also perhaps consider the type of paper you're using, as paper with less tooth naturally is worse at catching its medium.
>>7361984also using a stump, say, too much and/or too early can mess with the grooves as well and hinder your mark-making.
>>7361985my worry is that if I use a sharp pencil that when I do eventually erase the groove will make it hard to draw what should have been thereI guess it might just be one of those things that gets easier as I get better in general.
I'm reposting my yesterday's story, because it came to my attention that it wasn't really that clear the dialogue was spoken by the new rival character. I wanted to clear this up because there seems to be some people here who like my stories
>>7361987>my worry is that if I use a sharp pencil that when I do eventually erase the groove will make it hard to draw what should have been thereif you're not pressing the tip into the paper too much it's not going to be any worse if you have to erase than if you were using a blunt tip - in fact, because the surface area of the pencil would be covering less of the paper, it would necessarily affect fewer of the grooves. as you said part of it is your practical ability - which, if you continually work on it, will get better - but you can also start with lighter/softer lines. ultimately just experiment. if you're in drawing for the long haul, you're gonna be filling paper, filling sketchbooks. see what works, what doesn't; what has this effect, what has that effect.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/610646598/nafca-animation-industry-book-2025Opinions on this?
>>7361997Sadly this is like year 4 of drawing for me and I'm still not sure what works but I'll continue to experiment around with it.
>>7361943>>7361964Thanks anons! I'm still doodling right now. I fucked this one up trying to tint the paper with a marker, but alas. Better than not drawing at all (this was meant to be Hozier lol)
how does the composition look?
>>7361442https://youtu.be/DwXBVIAfKesAlmost all of the Japanese comments are saying this is plagiarism and bad...
>>7362000I can understand your sentiment, so this isn't meant to be patronizing, but at any point the best thing to do isn't lament about your lot and lack of knowledge or skill but simply seek out information and try to improve upon your current abilities. if you haven't already, perhaps Arthur Guptil could be of help. he's mostly known for his book on pen & ink, but he also has a few books on pencil drawing as well. Rendering in Pencil is a consolidation of Sketching and Rendering in Pencil and Pencil Drawing Step-by-Step, but it's not in print afaik. though perhaps other anons in this thread or on /ic/ more broadly would know where you might go to learn about pencil techniques and different types of papers.
>>7361989Brat
>>7362004So, are people being gaslighted by people saying "Always use a reference" then?These artists have used references, but somehow it doesn't seem to be good enough for some reason?Explain.
>>7362004literally where, they're all saying the uploader is amazing for finding the sources or just calling it cool. only one comment is saying that people would try to cancel araki for it if he was a modern artist doing it>>7362015he's trying to gaslight you. look at the video yourself
>>7361999naisu tripspost this in the animation general and more than likely you'll get some real responses.
>>7362006Somehow never heard of Arthur Guptil, surprised I haven't since this seems fairly useful thanksI can probably find an old copy or just a pdf somewhere, I'll check it out.
study
>>7361927I'm going to copy Nihei Wish me luck
>>7362054he's a former architect, and architects sure as hell don't waste time copying random images like NPCs lmao
>>7362058hang yourself, crab
>>7362045yeah I can't remember when I first heard of him myself. I would imagine it was in reference to Rendering in Pen and Ink, but somehow I stumbled upon his pencil books. (I've only seen a few anons mention them - even when browsing warosu a bit). at any rate, hope it can help ya out some.
>>7362026>literally whereThe irony of you saying I'm the gaslighter here
>>7362065>ignoring the other commentsok gaslighter
This page ended up being such crap but I tried atleast
>>7362070You were ignoring these comments though, which make up a big chunk of the reactions. パクリ is plagiarism in Japanese. You can read for yourself.
>>7362065>using references is plagiarismhow am i supposed to learn how to draw!?
>>7362101you're not supposed to.
>>7362076i wasn't, i just scrolled through and didn't click on the replies. i see them now though. and they still aren't the majority. but feel free to make another screenshot compilation to prove me wrong, would love to see it
>>7362003Looks like they are talking about how they're gonna rape me
>>7361849
>>7362004You’re not basing your art decisions off of a YouTube comment section, right anon?
>>7362101If it were possible to learn how to draw then this would be the /int/ & /pro/ thread.
Proud of this one.
>>7362145I am.
>>7362148looks like the hotline miami guys
>>7362148
>>7362152Hotline Miami had such a badass art style
>>7362148>>7362156think he means this .
when i'm trying to do a master study figure drawing or any master study at all really, should i be trying to line by line copy it as accurately as possible?i'm not sure if i'm limiting my learning and understanding by going with the flow instead of painstakingly trying to be as accurate as possible
studies
>>7362162very neat!but what's going on with the middle one's feet?does it have a giant toe sticking upwards or is it grabbing onto something?
>>7362160then he's retarded lmao
>>7362172it's a velociraptor claw, this is the ref
>>7362147if /int/s and /pro/s exist then it must be possible to learn how to draw
>>7362175oh, i see.they just have weird feet. but why?hmm
>>7362156they never look like that other than the covers>>7362160yeah
>>7362177To shank some dinos.Chickens got the memo, although their spurs are located differently.
Does this girl look fat to you?
>>7362205elle n'est pas grosse
>>7361870Stab yourself, Euroid/Ameritard
>>7362211trying too hard
>>7362207Ok then I will proceed to work on this as base tomorrow.
>>7362176It's called talent.
>>7361488Thanks anon, I didn't notice about the thighs.By the shoulders in the back do you mean (from our perspective) the left or the right?>>7361499Not much boxes, actually. I grinded more shitty human figures than purposeless floating boxes. In recent years even Draw a Box added a disclaimer that you should draw something else than just the lessons, so that's all the confirmation I need to abandon the thing. I did like the ribbon lessons, actually helped me with hair and stuff.
>>7361913reddit safe anime
>>7362176We can't have you begs getting crazy ideas in your head about "consistent practice" and "work ethic". It's all preordained at birth and your genes determine your talent and placement in this world. Now be a good boy and consume your daily pro video and merch. Somebody needs to pay their bills.
Trying to understand the torso/pelvis, drawing these rectangular pelvises in perspective is hard as fuck, but it's a good exercise I think
>>7362246A-anon... I am very sorry
>>7362252why
How do you guys draw front facing anime girls?(Also color the lineart)
>>7362058>copying imagesStyles are copied, not images, crab-kun
>>7362204Been grinding eyes for a couple hours now I think I'm getting it down.
Female tits with nipples = banFemale tits with no nipples = no ban?I have heard rumors that barbie anatomy won't get you banned on blue boards, so I'm wondering if there is a way to merely imply nipples.
>>7362398new here? there's no ban since people work with references on this board.
>>7362399BLUE BOARDSlike /v/I got away with scantily clothed women with nipple bumps in the cloth, but sometimes I want to draw them naked, whether I get horny or because plot reasons.
>>7362401We live in a society. Without rules, we become animals. Without law, we are nothing but beasts.We are in red board territory though...
>>7362401that's really all up to jannies. i've seen people get banned for posting covered butts while others get away with topless or cropped porn.its all whatever.
I did this doodle :D
>>7362065This anon has been baiting for a few days by inventing an issue and then calling everyone a gaslighter about it.
>>7362404hmmmmaybe I will just try barbie anatomy for starters
>>7361565It's nice but I think you could add some other element to give it more of an oomph
>>7362405Hands!
>>7361906cool, how did you learn to draw like this?
>>7361380Out of curiosity, do you like the photo or the scan more?
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>>7362434Why have you given him a boner?
>>7362453those are just pant wrinkles.if he had a boner, it would look way more ridiculous
>>7362486what book is it?
>>7362211I bet you got a dedicated toilet paper bin next to your shitterLOL
>>7362496the man who can't draw faces aka Hampton
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>>7361566Not sure what OCC is but ive found multiple torrents of everything including lots of Steve Huston courses but there mostly related to drawing not painting.
>>7362455Well, he's obviously semi hard.
>>7362510aHR0cHM6Ly9vbmxpbmUtY291cnNlcy5jbHViLz9zPWh1c3Rvbg==
>>7362517What the hell is that?---- ^^
Started this dude last night at a friend's coked up and drunk. Might finish him when I wake up. Bed now
>>7362518I think it says "lurk moar".
>>7362518https://online-courses.club/?s=huston
>>7362517Here's a hint, two equals signs at the end.
>>7362515that's what happens when he sees sasuke
>>7362405Cute and good
>>7362534Yeah. What's that about den?
>>7361308Tough to ask exactly what I mean, but I think it's understandableWhen developing some skill in drawing something specific, does it happen as when you just get a feel for it, or as when you produce some formulaic approach to get what is needed? Or is it when you consciously understand what you get a feel for unconsciously, and can unconsciously get a feel for what you had to make formulas for?
>>7362555I'd say it's closest to your last statement. It's a mix of both conscious and unconscious decision making that becomes refined through repeated practice and exposure.
>>7362553Here man. >>7360880
>>7361914Aww thank you!! I don't really have a single muse, I moreso get inspired by all my friends and wanna keep up with them. If I had to choose one though it'd be Gooseworx, nothing I've made from 2023 onward would exist if it wasn't for her and everything I've seen her do is amazing. Animation, music, writing, character design... Idk how she does it.
How often do you think is good to check in for feedback? Weekly? Monthly? When I do check in it seems like 75% of the time I receive no feedback and when it get it's vague and not constructive.
>>7361957Finished piece when bro.
i wanna cry. i can't study solo. i need help. mentor or teacher. i am not improving. my lines are still stiff and boring, my figures are boring and noob though i studied anatomy and copied figures and made gestures. i don't know how to do composition, i read Itten and understood nothing. i don't know what should i do and what should i study and how. waaa
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>>7362525thank
>>7362569>Gooseworx>her>she
>always know what's wrong with my art>see a million mistakes in every piecedoes it ever end, or do you have to learn to accept the mistakes instead of trying to improve infinitely?
>>7362600You will always make mistakes, you’re human. Just remember that every drawing you make isn’t gonna be your last and that the amount matters more than the quality of each one
>>7362585Yeah yeah kys
>>7362606He will never be a woman.
>>7362409lol, I don't think my mom even knows that character, it's not that popular here
>>7362567Well, ye see, the thing is, why are they posting it like that?
>>7362607You will never even get close to what she's accomplished.
>>7362645And I'm still not half as miserable as your average troon.Cope, seethe, mald, dilate.
>>7362652Goose is not your average troon tho.
the grind is worse than i expected, i'm on day 9 and not seeing progress
>>7362665Fellow day 9 chad! Post your work!
>>7362667i-i don't think i have anything i like to show
>>7362665most of the time, progress is immediately indiscernable. but if you think your process is hindering you, by all means try to be specific about it and perhaps someone here can try to tilt you more towards the right direction.
>>7362670We're all trash, anon. It's a garbage can, not a garbage can't.I'm sure you're doing better than you think. If you aren't progressing, you can always grind more.> Pic rel my last drawing from yesterday
>>7362665I usually see progress every 50-100 hrs. Also make sure you're not cramming too much study in a day and just draw for fun too, you get diminishing returns after a certain amount of time (applies to other things as well not just art) varies person to person and you can build up stamina too though. and make sure you revisit stuff you practiced earlier frequently
>>7362656yeah he has evolved his troonism into troonism 2.0
>>7362671i feel like a retard because i keep screwing up headsthe size of the cranium/hairhair is so voluminous i overestimate the size of the head when using circles as a starting point and underestimate how much of a head is just fluff so even after i make the face and scale the bald head to it, i can't draw hair that looks like it fitsnot like i can draw faces either but you see faces all the time so the relations between eyes and brows and the nose are more naturalno matter how many heads i draw i just can't do it rightit has to be because i didn't start as an 8 year old like all the pro artists
>>7362507I don't care what kinda of eyeless meme drawing of his you post dude can't figure out that he eyes belong in the middle of the head and it's been that way for YEARS
>>7362677> He keeps posting about troons in /beg/
>>7362682You started it I just followed the mentally ill reply train created by you and the other retard to mock you as well.Anyway "goose" (whoever that even is) will never be a woman.Now excuse me there are other boards waiting for my shitposts.
>>7362672fine, this is one of the better ones today, and the offside eye is still wonky
>>7362687Your noses are way better than mine. >>7362204This is my 3/4ths drawing from yesterday. At the very least, I don't think you should be embarassed to post your art. That said, as long as you can find things wrong with your art, and you're working to correct them with each new drawing, I don't think it's possible to not improve.
>>7362678>it has to be because i didn't start as an 8 year old like all the pro artistsplenty of artists who started relatively late came to draw well. it's a matter of not merely the amount of hours you've put in, but the quality of those hours, the specific instruction you've received along the way, and the sort of thought processes you've had while working.if your tendency is to overestimate the size, then consciously reel it back some and see what the result is. but don't do this just once, do it dozens and dozens of times - hundreds even. if you can make an incorrect mark with such and such x,y coordinates, then you can move your hand ever so much over to the correct coordinates. if you're using references, work on your ability to measure; if you're drawing from imagination, read Loomis or some other instructor for generic proportions, how you can manipulate them to get an agreeable and realistic (enough) variation. also don't bite off more than you can chew. it'd be much more productive to just work on faces as opposed to faces and hair. then after working at faces for a bit (a few months perhaps, though it's ultimately you're choice how long you wanna set the time-frame) then focus on hair. then focus on general construction say, then perspective, etc.
>>7362687midas fortnite
An study color from: color and light by james gurney
>>7362685The schizophrenia is getting worse anon, the person you replied to is not me. I suggest you dilate your esophagus with lithium.
Old artwork i did I have no idea what I'm doing. Reposted since the picture went sideways...
>>7362716Nice, I like the expression. Did you use a cheap pencil? Do you have any recent artwork?
>>7362720I have recent work what I used on that drawing was a mechanical pencil
>>7362720>cheap penciltotal meme. you can create masterworks with a p205 or 3 dollar twist-erase.
>>7362724I've just got pencils on the mind. It doesn't help that I haven't seen a good pencil drawing in awhile., I forgot they could look nice.
This is my newest work since I haven't done anything for awhile..
>>7362731Time to hop back on the grind.
>>7362734The grind.....I keep getting my brain cloudy so then I'm never consistent with my work.
>>7362738Consistent quality wise or quantity?
>>7362742I mean trying to draw almost everyday. It's hard to do it
>>7362743Meh, just draw as much as you can. I didn't draw yesterday though so it's over for me.
>>7361308Any good guides for a more cartoony artstyle?I've mostly practiced based off real life stuff so when I try to draw a bit more cartoony I end up making some stuff look more realistic and it looks a little uncanny.
>>7362747Cartoonish here is that exaggerated muscle mass/proportions +the small head, the simple coloring and shading. Other than that probs any anime/cartoon style you like, copy works from that.
>>7362750Very nice. You are learning to become profficient with drawing realistic humans right? Otherwise, that won't help you draw anime girls any better
>>7362731try michael hampton's book and memorize the part about the torso and pelvis being distinct masses and your simplest figures will improve 3x
>>7362747it's just proportion differences with the same construction. buff people irl dont have massive ribcages and hands but this cartoon lizard thing does. it's also like 10 heads tall, incredibly tiny cranium like 1/3 the size of the guy on the left proportionately, huge jaw. etc
>>7362746Ok it said the drawing I made was done sep 17 so I think it's been like two months or more since I drew.
>>7362750All nice, just wanted to say the thumbnail and first few seconds of opening it made me think it's some gunboat mecha drifting to the left>>7362755Ackshually detailed bodies with anime girl heads are quite in demand among pervs
>>7362755>Otherwise, thatNevermind, I may've misunderstood what you meant
>>7362760Holyy, well now your gonna draw at least 5 days a week right?
>>7362757Ok thanks pal
>>7362767lol, lmao
>>7362763Uh... I mean that would be a smart thing to do. Have to push myself to do it
>>7362261>How do you guys draw front facing anime girls?I dont xd.Now talking seriously, you have to find out which stylizations work for you, since it's awkward to draw symmetrical things and on top of that you are representing that stuff in a stylized way. How do you draw the nose for example? A dot? A shadow? More realistic? What asymmetrical features will you use to make it less awkward? Hair? Mouth? Eyes? Incline the head a bit? Making the face turned at a slight angle?>(Also color the lineart)Do the lineart first, then use a layer mask and color it after it's done>>7362405Nice pose. >>7362417I think if you wanna share your drawings online, the scan looks way better.>>7362430She looks a bit stiff. Also I don't thinkl the cartoony face matches the rest of the study>>7362521I think you should scratch less. Use thicker lines if you must. I actually love sketching with thick lines since the concept is the same as scratching (you don't know where the correct line goes but know it's "inside" the thicker line)>>7362750Nice study!
>>7362754>>7362758Guess it's time to imitate Ben 10
>>7362690if you want a nose tip, i learned from legend of the galactic heroes, it has many styles of "european" noses>>7362691>don't do this just once, do it dozens and dozens of times - hundreds even.if that's how it has to be
should painting and drawings have depth of field like photos do?
>>7362813they don't have to have anything necessarily, it all depends on what your goal(s) is/are. if you want them to have depth of field, then try to realize that within them; otherwise don't pay it any mind.
>>7362829>>7362829>>7362829
>>7362665Day 5ish here and have the opposite problem I seem to be drawing much better than I should for how much experience I have, and it is making me nervous because once reality comes back on I will be devastated That being said, 9 days is not a lot for progress I think, but you should be proud you have been at it for almost 2 weeks now! My couple of attempts have always failed after a day or two, I'm on my longest streak as well I thinkKeep going!
>>7362772peak thank you about the lineart thing.Sounds fucking obvious now but well, guess i am a bit of a moron.anywho, guess i will just do a fucking dot to save time. I already waste lots of time worrying about stuff like that + backgrounds.
>>7361648Edgy kino. All it needs is a night sky background with a giant moon.
