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If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
mangapose.com
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life

JUST DRAW

Previous thread: >>7369128
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"Making it" refers to being featured in OP, right?
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Too soon. Give the threads some breathing room.
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>>7370625
That's making it on "easy mode". Hard mode, is leaving this board for good.
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>>7370625
I don't know. This kind of just feels like anon grapped all the images from last thread without any care and put that image together
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>>7370618
Post thread pose/challenge.
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>>7370637
Yo googly eyes, you got some of your high effort stuff today?
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>>7370618
Some life shit. Trying to apply perspective more intuitively
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>>7370643
yea i had help from Subuart with this piece
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>>7370636
x
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>>7370625
I was featured in the OP but they changed the file name to "He will never finish this.jpg"
I never did...
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>>7370649
Don't know who that is, but nice
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How many beg threads we need in the cataloque. Right now there is 5. Slow down
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>>7370665
There aren't enough stars in the night sky or grains of sands on the beach..
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I encourage everyone to continue posting in the other thread until it hits image limit. People were still posting art and there's room for even more.
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>>7370649
ribcage a bit too large/flared outwards on the left side and bent arm is missing elbow/top of ulna + deltoid is off, otherwise nice
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Any programs with 3d anatomy models for reference?
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>>7370686
I'm not in to beast and anthro but i guess you could just add some more mass to his deltoid.
Like his pecks and trapezius are very bulky compared too.
Also his nose is on wrong angle.
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>>7370686
I don't mind it being posted here but didn't we have a furry thread?
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>>7370636
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>>7370700
Oh, sorry. I'll remove it and post there.
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>>7370640
i give up lol
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>>7370665
OPfag won't let the majority of the threads die before making a new one.
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Caucasian man
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>>7370649
>Subu
Oh that fraud? No wonder your shit started to look ai-inspired. Using NovelAI like him or brewed up your own model?
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>>7370680
BLOG RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
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Is this just round circle with opacity no texture? I really like how soft it looks. Both lineart and shading wise.
https://x.com/kaedehito_sb/status/1848704428343497113/photo/1
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Negroid
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>>7370725
Here’s my model
https://tensor.art/models/678690775334302253
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>>7370685
Thank you for your kind words, anon.
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>>7370713
It's not me bitch. I'm not making anymore for you ungrateful fags. I'm done. I'm putting my time and crits elsewhere.
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>>7370709
quick one

>>7370726
Are you same anon that asked me before?
Just like said i'm not really posting anything right now.
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>>7370618
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>>7370640
>>7370709
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Draw Chad King.
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how do i go from just doing figure drawing studies to actually drawing figures doing dynamic poses
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>>7370757
you just do

in all seriousness, i found that focusing on proportion, form, and accuracy for figures until you feel somewhat comfortable with them to be much better than starting with learning. it's fine for figures to be somewhat stiff when you're starting out, you can't do everything at once. ymmv though
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i have a few questions -- i'm pleased with this so far because i'm /beg/, but:
>is the head super fucked?
>are the proportions weird?
>anything particularly odd outside of the hands and feet?
>can you tell what the character is holding?
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>>7370757
You force it. Just imagine or reference the whackiest fucking shit ever and you will stiffen it during corrections and shit.
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>>7370771
Legs are vastly different sizes, if it's supposed to be a perspective thing, the perspective is still way off.

Proportions are mostly fine (going by the smaller leg at least) including the head.
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hello /beg/
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>>7370771
upper arm is too short on hand on hip arm
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>>7370725
>ai-inspired
fuck that nigga im ditching him
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Any good book for learning construction? I am like that retarded howie comic guy I don't understand 3d forms and gestures.
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>>7370822
morpho simplified forms, i also suggest proko and sketchfab for help with simplifications/rotations. it will probably look like ass for a while it's normal don't get discouraged
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>>7370823
Thanks!
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>>7370625
I got featured, does that mean my drawings are shit or
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>>7370835
It means whoever made the op image that was posted in the discord liked your work. This could mean it's so ass it's funny. It could be It shows technical skill. It could be your style is recognized and show consistent work and improvement.
Don't worry about the world around you bro. Draw. Draw with me. Draw the images of life
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Finished this yesterday

Some values are exaggerated (like the white line on the cube) because I only have one pencil without a sharpener that works

But also I kinda shat myself

Also some angles/proportions are just... off. I'm not very proud of the result but I'm glad I did it anyway
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>>7370841
This is a good attempt anon. You captured the soft edges well for a beginner
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>>7370844
yay thanks!
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>>7370625
Shit man. Even i have done that. Anyways, how many more years till I'm int?? Anything i fucked up in particular?
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>>7370840
>discord
Hell no, bye faggots
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>>7370860
I can fix her
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>>7370822
>Any good book for learning construction?
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>>7370859
make sure you keep the hatching perspective in mind vertically as well not just horizontally. check the side of the doorway and door. otherwise nice work
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>get told that to render i need to use all kinds of layers and brushes and shit
>get told that to render i need to just use the default pen and change colors a bunch
>get told that to render i need to use the blur tool to blend colors
>get told that if i use the blur tool while rendering my results will look like shit no matter what so i better not
>watch videos about how to render and color
>"so basically just do this: step one choose your colors step two you're done"
>watch speedpaint videos, obviously not particularly useful when i can't tell what they're doing with their tools/when they're changing them/what they're changing them to
you know what? it's not meant to be. i'm just gonna use screentones and do everything in black and white until i kms
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>>7370874
I used to watch a lot of Rinotuna streams to learn rendering by copying him. He got some books too that focus on rendering try it out

Like drawing in general you wont get it right the first time just stick to it and you will improve
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>>7370874
try them all out and just pick the one you like most
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>>7370860
yes, the nose and bulgy cheek
trace refs, copy refs
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>>7370884
i don't even know where to start. i don't understand anything that goes beyond "pick a darker color and shade with it." i don't know how people get painterly looking rendering, or make their lineart all colorful to go along with the coloring, or any of that shit, because literally every tutorial and guide literally just says "just do it lol" and every time i've ever asked about it here that's the same response i get too.
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>>7370757
s-like action line

it's that simple.
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>>7370889
just pet the fucking dog
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>>7370897
maam yes maam
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>>7370874
Anon. Learn YOUR style and method. Don't think suggestions are rules
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>>7370903
>anon
>you've never tasted a pie before
>but i expect you to bake one
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>>7370874
>and do everything in black and white until i kms
alright can't wait
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>>7370884
if he enough brain capacity to do that he wouldn't be complaining like a retard on here
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>>7370904
Where do you think pies came from motherfucker?
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im reattempting >>7369881 >>7369882 having read a little bit on CSP and feeling more retarded than i was just scribbling with pencil and blender on a single layer. im stuck on shading the background.
first i tried to fill an offwhite texture on the paper layer. chatgpt said texture property in fill tool but i dont see that. the default "drawing paper" material loks like shit but maybe im misapplying it. using brush felt slow, laggy and shitty and i left unpainted holes.
i tried polyline selection and went down a rabbit hole trying to figure out if i could click-adjust the vertices on the selection. maybe i could with a vector layer?

so im starting again from empty white image and starting to hate myself.
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>>7370872
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>>7370916
millennia of incremental knowledge passed down over generations
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trying to think off a thumbnail for a spanking panel, this one looks kinda slick but it's putting focus on the spanker rather than the spankee
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>>7370924
Yeah
Just produce more quick thumbnails first
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>>7370932
siiip
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>>7370936
Lol
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little work in progress
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Returned to Keys to Drawing and getting destroyed again by the value process hehe

And as is tradition I am winging it with proportions
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>>7370956
Why would it be? It's extra stuff on top of regular perspective
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>>7370924
i kinda like this one, even though its unfocused, but there's so many multiple things you can focus at once before you're not focusing on anything
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im starting to think i should ignore trying to make higher fidelity blocks and still lifes and just start scribbling animu faces
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>>7370970
Ok thanks for telling us.
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>>7370779
>>7370783
thanks
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>>7370971
sorry for being a bitch i will try to contain my posts to asking about solutions rather than empty griping
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>>7370868
Seems like every shitty thing that happens around here involves some kind of discord.
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how do you blend with the hard round and make it look smooth?
Literally no where on the internet can i find a real explanation
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>>7371004
You pick the colors you get from each pass, and work from there.
And you definitely didn't search the internet too thoroughly if you couldn't find it
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"5 minute burn" keys to drawing
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oh god I fucked up
then tried to fix it
then fucked up more
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I think i'm getting better with linework, barerly use ctrl-z anymore and it's feels nice.
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>>7371004
>hard round and make it look smooth
you don't. this is the point of it.
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>>7371024
yes but now you have to focus on perspective since the torso ended up being completely asymmetric in halves' positions and height
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>>7370954
WTF?, does anyone else see a hot ASS in the thumbnail?
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>>7370954
>>7371030
accidental masterpiece
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>>7371030
fat in bad way
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>>7371030
ಠ_ಠ
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>>7371028
I redrawed bottom part, previously it was showing her back but i realized that you can't twist your torso that much.
I should start using refs i guess.
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>>7371030
based coomer lmao
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>>7371030
coomer savant
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>>7370944
your design was a lot of fun to draw, you have a good eye for it
as for the illustration, I think you could really push the expression and pose with these kind of evil/monster characters
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Complete beginner here, are there any structured courses/books out there that are actually for someone who can't draw at all? Like I'm the type of person that struggles to write legible letters, let alone any sort of picture. All the materials I've checked out assume I have at least the basic skill of being able to make lines and stuff and usually go way too deep with the science behind it all. I just need something simple to teach me how to draw anime girls.
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>>7370904
More like
>there are many flavors
>taste them all
>find what you like
What kind of faggot is handed multiple painting methods and goes "how tho?"
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>>7371030
coomer Rorschach test
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>>7371046
>>7367307
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>>7371030
based
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>>7371085
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>>7371046
Keys To Drawing my friend. I'm still a beginner because I didn't drew much since last year but the more I go further the more I see that KtD give every tools for a complete beginner (importance of accuracy, shape, how to map a drawing for shadows etc...). If you can't really understand what the book says sometimes, no problem. Just go watch a video about the subject and it will directly make sense.
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if you're /beg/ and spending hours on a piece and constantly redrawing pieces when do you know it's bad foundation and it's time to move on vs needing a lot of polishing?
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wasted the entire week playing league and I'm still not done fuck I need to manage my time better
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>>7370874
My fav artist (eu03) does it traditional style.
He just picks colors and keeps painting as if it were trad, no digital fuckery.

https://www.twitch.tv/eu03art
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>>7371109
>constantly redrawing?
does that mean ctrl-z'ing all day? then yes, pick up a pen and drop digital for a while
if you mean making new pictures of the same subject, then that's fine
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>>7371109
that's a good question, but part of the problem is that if you're a beg, it's going to be relatively harder for you to make the distinction between polishing shit and doing something productive. my personal recommendation to circumvent this problem - though it's not perfect - is to set times for most of your studies. since the beginning portion of any drawing is the most important - as no amount of rendering will magically fix poor construction - it seems best to do more short(er) studies. what exactly that means is going to differ from person to person, but my rule of thumb is 2 hours or less. anything more than that is a longer study. these longer studies are important, though, as there are fundamentals they help you to practice which you won't (likely) get to if you just do 10 minute, 15 minute, 30 minute, even an hour or more studies.

redrawing something 10 times, say, isn't bad in itself. longer studies allow you to really push your theoretical knowledge and try to make it practical, tangible. you can try and retry ideas and try to see what works and what doesn't - which you're not necessarily afforded in a shorter study. so do a mix, but a majority (which could be 55-45, 60-40, 70-30, whatever you feel comfortable with) of what you draw, I would think, should be shorter. just depends on the context.
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>>7371095
whats the cover of it? so I don't download the wrong book.
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no comment
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>>7371121
Now pick a pencil brush and do it again with a light sketchy hand. Then go over it with ink.
And don't give anime girls Schwarzenegger jawlines
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>>7371124
im retrying now that my face feels less hot and my stomach has settled
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Going back to realistic art is more tempting by the day
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>>7371127
Who is your fav artist?
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>>7371132
i guess shiwasu no okina
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>>7371051
Is it a good idea to start with poses? As I said I have no basic skills, this seems pretty advanced.

>>7371095
I found that one a bit complicated but I'll give it another try, thanks.
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>>7371133
Copy his faces.

I believe that drawing is just like language. You cant expect to write a poem or a song in a language whose alphabet you dont even know.
Just like toddlers learning how to write/draw letters with glue and soup you need to start copying.
Copy the drawings of the artist you like and you will eventually start assimilating their style.
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>>7371137
i believe i should kill myself now
but really, if copying an explicit template for basic anime face is too much then it seems like this is the only thing i should do for at least a week
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>>7371147
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>>7371147
It is just because your spatial intelligence and coordination are shit. Use more measurements.
Have you ever been in a car or drove a car or played competitive fps?
It takes some talent and skill to be able to move your hand where your eye wants it to be, even more so when there is something between them like a mouse, stylus or steering wheel.

Start with simpler shapes and train your accuracy on that.
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>>7371153
there are simpler shapes than circle and line? and im using measurements where i can, it's also a bit awkward being new to the stylus input
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>>7371008
thanks senpai
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Im fuckign dying over here
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>>7371147
dont give up skeleton
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>>7370618
How are my values and perspective
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>>7371156
Drawing still life shapes is an exercise of accuracy because it forces you to only measure. Sizes must be the same, angles and lines must be the same.
Pick one and draw one as exactly as possible.
https://x.com/noahbradley/status/1854180411515031695

Also remember that the brain commits to memory during sleep, so you will notice your gains on the next day and make sure you dont fuck up your schedule.
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>>7371164
I made the pieces fit a bit better, and indicated where I think the top of the armrest should be, it's too low.
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>>7371178
Actually I should have pushed the back cushion even more to the right, it still doesn't quite reach the armrest I don't think
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>>7371170
i think i do ok drawing from reference, better at least than this. i can feel that filling in by ratios from this face template is a lot less comfortable than scribbling by sight ref or photo
i also wonder if i should try leveraging the software beyond drawing the initial circle
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>draw something by myself
>it looks like shit
>draw a reference
>it looks mildly ok
im going to kms

>>7371137
this is interesting advice
maybe one day i will be like a mix of nagano mamoru and hagio moto
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>>7371112
>>7371116
thanks
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>>7371182
and as it happens i did used to play fps a lot, however im left handed and use the mouse with my right. after a few attempts my right hand is drawing good as or better circles than my left with the stylus and much better with the mouse
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>>7371044
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>>7371178
>>7371181
This is a good change, anon thanks.
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>>7371211
crop and resize your images
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>>7371211
>huge shadow across the photo
I recognize this retard
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>>7371211
ok all yall have to do is rotate the image and then screenshot the rotated image so it doesnt fucking revert to sideways when you post it its so easy holy fuck
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>Keep your eye open
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>>7371230
Just don't listen to crabs anon, couple of weeks at most and you'll be ready to go pro
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>>7371232
I'm just drawing because It's fun, but thanks
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Hey /ic/
So yeah sorry for the shadow and the image (I don’t know why the image rotated)
So I study Loomis and I have a problem with the limits of the face and the jawbone.
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>thought i could render
>this piece of shit is ruining that dream high-speed
>don't know anything about rendering fabric, can't figure out fabric i'm """"""""rendering"""""""""""""
i just want to kill myself. i think i'm making it but i am in fact just not doing that.
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>>7371235
Based. Me too.
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>>7371244
Can I see your attempt? Is it the lace?
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>>7371244
pyw
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>>7371241
Thank
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>>7371237
>I have a problem with the limits of the face and the jawbone
Can you elaborate a bit? What exactly you got problem with?
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>>7371230
your works are too soulful and pure for dis thread, you should consider to turn your ideas into something more massive, i bet everyone will like these
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>>7371251
I have a problem with this part of the head (when you cut the circle to make the bottom of the face)
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>>7371249
it's not so much the lace (which i don't intend to draw kek) it's the shape. i thought i understood curtain folds but maybe not. adding highlights to white is fucking me up too
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Thinking about military girl anon
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>>7370618
OP you need to calm the fuck down. These threads have a shelf life of 3-4 days you don't need to make a new thread every single fucking day.
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>>7371264
You are crying for this? Fuck off.
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>>7371260
thank you. that means a lot. Did draw my character there?
>>7371265
thank you :D
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>>7371230
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.
>mfw thinking of you hurting
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After 3 months I can proudly say all I can create is dogshit
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>>7370640
This one was cool
>>7370646
I'm not sure if I understood the assignment.
>>7370650
Weird, like a fever dream. Didn't know what to do for this one either.
>>7370709
Was lazy with this one. Spent more time on the face and head than the rest of the body. Heads are the worst.
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I would like to improve my line quality and start finishing things. I'm not happy with my eyelashes, I think they are drawn negatively, but I can't get the exact same feel I see in other people's work. I also need to improve my light shapes.

What is the worst thing about this drawing?

kek, the thumbnail looks like shit.
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>>7371279
par the course. keep going. if you're not already, try drawing every day, even if it's just 10-15 minutes.
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>>7371263
Yea but like... what part of that is giving you trouble?
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>>7370176
I should've drawn this on watercolor paper so I could've used paint instead of ink.

>>7370607
Thank you, anon. I will persevere for you specifically.
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>>7371235
With your talent and dedication you should be raking in money for this. Just saying
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>>7371263
You need to think more in 3d. Following from center of smaller circle wich is size from hair line to the chin, do a wider curve to the bottom.
Remember that this area is not completly on side, it's on angle. Face is more round than ractangle. So you should see more volume of head side.
Jaw bone should start a bit lower than ear bottom, but this can vary from person to person and you can stylize it a lot.
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>>7371271
what?
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>>7371294
I'm sorry if it's not that precise (I've drawn with my mouse)
the part in red and purple (how to connect the line to the cranium)
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>>7371311
Hard to do on a front facing head, I think you're better off practicing in 3/4th perspective to understand the entire form better in which case it would connect roughly where the ear starts
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>>7371185
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>>7371342
f**t mentioned
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I want to draw like Imamura Ryou, or alternatively, I want to die
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>>7371298
holy kino
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>>7371049
i'm not handed shit for methods lol. there is no guide that tells you how to do this type of thing. forget making a pie from scratch, i'm being told to invent the fucking oven first.
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Last thread's heckling got to me. I'm grinding eyes, but I'm still not sure if I'm dodging the 'symbol drawing' accusations. If anyone has more pointed advice, hit me with it.
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First A4 painting of a birdy. My biggest problem with it is I made the body to uniform in value so it feels less round, and don't look at the post it is standing on.
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>>7371398
Better.
Too shaky tho.
Do line and circle exercises before you draw to warm up.
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Absolutely miserable first attempt at a still life
its so fucking over
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>>7371435
go fish for compliments somewhere else
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>>7371435
True you should stop and leave.
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>>7371435
This was my first attempt. I didnt learn anything after it because permabeg.
To think you already have perfect accuracy and somewhat accurate albeit muddy values and still call it miserable makes me want to gnaw your fucking hands off and really make you regret living you fag.
I have forgotten where even this ref is from.
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>>7371435
Why are the edges so straight and hard? Are you using the line tool u fucking nigger?
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>>7371445
use the tools you have available, for example copy and paste :^)
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>>7371446
I hate digitalniggers so fucking much.
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>>7371400
It's wild seeing you progress so quickly. Keep up the great work.
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>>7371450
>wild
Suicide inducing*
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i am drunk and am tracing circles
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What's with these doomer faggots on here recently? Is it a trend? Or just one retard trying to be funny
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>>7371454
Holy shit this anon drinks alcohol. So cool. How do I become adult and cool like him?
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>>7371458
be a 34 year old schizoid that decided to start drawing out of the blue
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>>7371451
>getting sad instead of trying harder
perma beg mindset
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>>7371469
I just wish I had a bit of talent that made my efforts worthwhile.
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>>7371441
5 MINUTES. 3 VALUES. 0 TALENT
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second study/reference copying of today
if i do enough of these, will i eventually git gud?
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>>7371484
Only if you stop fucking around with your copies.
What fucked me over was thinking a half-assed "good enough" copy was enough. It will only cement bad habits and permabeg you.
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>>7371484
are you overlaying your picture over the ref to check and correct mistakes?
if not, then no
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>>7371455
its the simple truth that doom posting gets attention

>>7371473
I have no talent either, but i wont let that stop me

>>7371482
Sovl

>>7371447
>implying tradfags dont have tons of rulers, stencils, compasses ect to draw geometry

>>7371441
>muddy values
How do i fix that
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>>7371485
d-does that look half assed? i tried to do as good a job as i could. here's the original pic i was imitating

>>7371486
does that mean i should print it out or something?
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>>7371490
Sorry but anything other than a perfect copy is half assed. Do what the other guy said with constantly overlaying the original drawing for corrections.
This way u force your mind to actually pay mind to the measurements instead of just rawdogging it.
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>>7371494
ok I guess I'll try doing that as best I can. holding it up to the monitor should work, right? that feels dumb but if it makes me a better artist then so be it
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Day six...today was a hard day, so, not much is really going into it this time. Just, a quick attempt to make a perspective shot of some sort, to then spend some time working in fomurther tomorrow after I do some job hunting.
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>>7371490
>does that mean i should print it out or something?
you already have your drawing as a jpg
just reduce its opacity and overlay it digitally
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>>7371498
oh shit that's great, ty anon
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>>7371497
What i am meant to see here?
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>>7371497
You are a constant source of my amusement on this board. In a sense, you're a successful artist because of that.
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>>7371502
Trust me, it's more discernible than his last one
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>>7371506
Just a tired one minute attempt at making a perspective head angle. I wanted to at least have drawn, something today. Planning to, spend a few hours working on it further tomorrow.
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>>7371450
Thank you, but I already feel like I plateau'd. Is straight up painting more the best way forward. Ive already been looking at some saturday classes to join but I dont want to sit between the middle aged moms
>>7371450
Atleast the legendary beg retard is here to boost my spirits
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It's kinda of unfinished some of the rendering makes no sense but damn all of this is new and overwhelming
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>>7371512
why are the sides of the tombstone both visible from the front
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>>7371264
>adding highlights to white is fucking me up
nothing is white,fabric do not have highlights why need to add it
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>>7371518
Perspective is a subjective illusion, get out of the mental matrix anon.
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>>7371518
Because my brain isn't braining I will fix it
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so i gave this thing a shot but half the time it doesnt accept my lines until i start filling in random pixels on the blue dots, and it gave my horrific circles 4/5 wtf
https://app.drawdojo.com/lessons.html
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Extreme perspective like this is raping me.
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>>7371512
needs a "he never scored" on the epitaph
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>>7371528
why is his makeup so weird
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>>7371530
Have you ever seen runny makeup after facefucking? Shits wild.
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>>7371529
Thanks for reminding me
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>>7371525
Bro just draw...
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>>7371530
It's an app effect.
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>>7371528
crazy that people find this stuff attractive
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>>7371534
it is drawing, lines and circles and squares and sheeit just like you said
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>>7370725
That's not AI inspired though, too consistent to be. PYW, do you even draw?
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if you're drawing a person, does it matter which body part you draw first? I'm just wondering if it leads to less mistakes if you draw the torso first or whatever
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>>7371546
Generally people start with the head circle/ellipse but it shouldn't matter. What I think is critical though is indicating first the top and bottom of the figure, to not make silly proportional mistakes. Just put two marks on the canvas/paper where the top of the head and the feet will be.
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>>7371545
Oh piss off. The guy has been drawing the same googly eyed shit for years without deviation and now comes up with some stuff that is your standard cookie cutter ai pinup shit?
He even posted his own tensor model >>7370734 for fucks sake. Loaded up with the characters he always draws.

And Subu is a known ai grifter.
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>>7371546
doesn't necessarily matter, but the bigger and/or more comparable the mass is to other features, the less likely you are to make mistakes. e.g., if you start with the hand and then use that to draw the legs, say, unless you're using some measuring tool to be 100% sure you're comparing them properly, it's harder to eyeball the relative relationship. whereas if you start with the head, compare it to the neck, then go to the torso, you can eyeball the head (and neck) with the torso a lot more easily. then you can use the head to compare to hands, say, when you get to it, etc.
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>>7371553
Thats Cris, not Soda. You need to catch up on your schizos
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How do you guys deal with days where you draw like complete shit? About a week ago I had a brief period of time where I was drawing beautifully, probably the best I've ever drawn. Now my drawings look worse than they did 2 years ago, almost as if my brain went back to factory settings or something. It's so fucking frustrating and I don't know how to fix it
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>>7371562
I remember that that's natural, that everyone goes through it. obviously it's the manner in which you do it, not just the act itself, but I am grounded by the fact (or "idea", if you like) that me drawing as opposed to not doing it is getting me closer to my goal. even if it's just keeping the habit of drawing every day, it's what I should do ultimately. so I do it. negative emotions come, but they will go.
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>>7371562
rook into this
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>>7371560
What the fuck are you talking about
It is motherfucking Soda >>7370637
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>>7371571
No im talking about the tensorcore model or whatever the fuck. Soda wasn't the one who posted that that's cris's stuff lol
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I cant draw.
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>>7371574
well
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im loosened up enough that i decided to add extra bullshit on top of the shittiness, and the pencil layer is just visible just to show it some
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>>7371583
and oh, didnt realize i was zoomed in, it took up more of the canvas than that
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>>7371044
>>7371206
Wow I didn't expect someone else to draw my character, nice work! And yeah, I'll definitely go for a more expressive pose next time
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I only draw when I'm horny. Is that a bad thing?
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>>7371604
>Is that a bad thing?
if you're trying to maximize your gains and aren't horny at and throughout every opportunity to draw, then yes.
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you fags were the first ones i turned to because 4chan is all i know, but are there other groups i can pester with my shitty scribbles?
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>>7371565
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>>7371607
DeviantArt, Twitter, not recommended though. Stay here.
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>>7371631
dont have to tell me twice about those
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>>7371528
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>>7371621
>>7371640
designated mating press
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>>7371398
Day 16 of 30. Right eye's a bit small, nose could use some work, but I'm still drilling.
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is there a reason not to use stabilization on CSP?
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I can't fucking decide what I want to draw next
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trying pens out to force my self to put more effort into drawing so heres some gestures
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can someone make this but good please
to learn
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Is doing copies like these conductive to anything unless I know construction?
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is grinding loomis heads a bad way to improve?
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"If you can't draw it, then you don't understand it"

>>7371528
did what I could with so little space.
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>>7371711
Go practice on one page a bunch of different lines and shapes in repetition. This exercise is from Peter Han Dynamic Sketching. If you want to be good at construction then you need to practice your marksmanship. It's evidently clear you lack confident lines.
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>>7371689
and i quick rock study to practice line weight and hatching
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>>7371705
Ain't gonna happen buddy.
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I've been trying to learn how to draw for about 7 months now, and I was one of the those "never picked up a pencil in my life before" kinda of person.
But the main problem is that drawing still didn't click for me, does that make sense? It's a skill that I want to develop, but the tutorials I read and watch don't seem to make any sense. I don't understand how seeing someone drawing will make me draw better, and when I try to draw I often feel "lost" - it's the best way to put it.

Not trying to make excuses of why I'm bad/why I don't train more, but I wonder if other people tackled this more like thing you have to do and skill you will develop thru training and dedication rather than something you're feeling accomplished/fun while leaning, and how you stay motivated when what you draw doesn't seem to connect with you.
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Are there any interesting or alternative ways to deal with perspective drawing? I just feel like the charting is so sterile and uninteresting, though that may be a skill issue. I'd kill to get some natural feeling perspective drawings.
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Trying to be faster, but i can't lol
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someone i looked up to said i would never improve or get good at art and i havent been able to pick up a pen since, and i honestly don't know how to get out of this state
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>>7371756
pyw
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>>7371756
Same. Once I gave one of my drawings to an artist I used to admire for a stream critique and after being told that I was drawing wrong and should stop trying to ape him and to draw from life and that I ws basically wrong on everything I felt very disappointed and crushed and stopped drawing for a couple months.
It doesnt get better but you will go back to it eventually.
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>>7371705
Can't promise good, but here's a 4 minute adjustment. Might want to try /lsg/ instead.
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The mind is willing, but the hand fails. First day, 20 minutes.
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>>7371763
use fewer lines
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>>7371689
>>7371729
and an owl with a disproportionately small head
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>>7371645
The attempts continue.
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>>7371756
>>7371760
Always remember, skill does not equal success. People who do nothing with what they have definitely doesn't equal success. The fact you are drawing at all in your adult life makes you an oddity, don't hinge what you do on others perception of your skill.
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>>7371788
I DONT GIVE A SHIT. I WANT TO BE GOOD. I WANT TO STOPFEBING FUCKING PERMABEG.
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>>7371789
I mean, if all you want is good art like other people, pick up AI and stop torturing yourself. There's not point in putting yourself through the mental anguish at this point.
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>>7371737
I don't understand, the work you've been putting out has been really good. You've set goals for yourself right? Are you feeling lost because your practicing just for the sake of "getting good"?
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>>7371791
You should stop giving advice
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>>7371737
try painting
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skewed eyes
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>>7371793
It's the truth of the matter. If drawing makes you miserable or if somebody says you're never going to make it and that's enough to kill your drive, quit. There's no point. People may not wanna hear it, but AI art is going to take the professional jobs in the future, and it's always going to be closer to drawing like the artist you want to emulate, so if you aren't enjoying the process or hate where you're at and never think you're getting better, quit. What's the point? Why torture yourself? There's isn't really going to be much of a point in traditional art in the next 3-5 years if you don't genuinely just enjoy it and the process.
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>>7371762
it is good for me, I want to learn to draw like that
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shoo shoo aijeet
go bait elsewhere
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>>7370650
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>>7371801
Why don't you go ahead and explain how any of what I said is bait rather than some canned response to the moment that you see the word "ai" posted.
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>>7371771
nice, I like his expression
otherwise it feels flat (especially the feet), dynamic sketching would help
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Reminder!
Don't just do practices and studies to avoid the hard part of drawing
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>>7371827
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>>7371829
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>>7371831
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Drawing from imagination filters me hard bro. It makes me feel like an idiot after doing some great studies.
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Essential viewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4-2HRHaHI
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>>7371795
excellent drawing anon
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are you supposed to draw from imagination? I only had 1 drawing come out decent when I drew from imagination, everything else came out garbage without reference
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>>7371850
there's drawing from memory and understanding how things work
making shit up is not the way
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>>7371850
I guess depends what you want to do
I want to do concept art so drawing from imagination is my end goal
But it's hard as fuck and I feel like I keep doing studies to escape it

>>7371853
It's a different skill set
Yes you need to understand how things work to draw anything
But if you just copy shit you're not training the creative part of your brain
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I personally copy my references a bit too closely when I draw and now it's become kind of a bad habit
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>>7371861
My wife!!!!!!
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I thought Krenz was a meme? It's actually very effective.
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>>7371880
Isn't everything a meme according to someone?
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>>7371880
>Omng guise he is teaching me so much
>Draws lines like a permabeg schizo
never change
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>>7371880
This is you
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>>7371880
>drawabox
>drawabox, china
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>>7371886
Ok but at least krenz is not a hack compared to ranjeet. All his courses are on tg and it's so easy to follow notes thanks to AI.
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>>7371896
>All his courses are on tg and it's so easy to follow notes thanks to AI.
>AI shitter
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AI.
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>>7371528
Really fucked up
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>>7371907
Permabeg
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>>7371861
so should I ignore the people telling me to draw from imagination or not? I'm getting conflicting answers here
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>>7371913
Reread the image
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>>7371913
There is no contradiction
If you draw from imagination and don't know how to draw a hand, find a reference of learn how to draw hands
Drawing from imagination means deciding what you want to draw, the composition, the theme, is there one character or 2, what are they doing, where are they, etc.
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>>7371916
yeah but I had 2 other anons tell me to draw from imagination so I'm kinda confused by who I should listen to
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>>7371918
I thought drawing from imagination was using absolutely zero reference
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>>7371919
You grind your fundies or you end up like this permabeg >>7371907
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>>7371923
I think anons are talking about different things
But yes you need to draw from imagination, but you need to build up a visual library first
So you need to draw hands from references a bunch until you can draw one from imagination
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>>7371775
End of day 16 out of 30.
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>>7371927
my drawings always come out poop when I drew without reference (except for one which weirdly one of my best performing pieces on social media) and I keep getting conflicting answers when I ask about it. Some people tell me to always use reference other people tell me to draw from imagination so I don't really know what to do
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>>7371933
if you want to draw a kangaroo from imagination, draw a bunch from reference from different angles until you truly understand them
same goes for everything else
and unless you're kjg, you end up doing this only for the things you draw most often (like humans), and just use reference for the rest
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>>7371818
thanks i didnt use a reference but im just trying to improve my line work, contruction, values etc. i think using pens raisesmthe stakes and forces me to be more careful. heres another that i think addresses the issues the mentioned.
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>>7371941
I've draw womens bodies well enough without reference but I still use reference for them just in case
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Critical thinking is not this board's strong suit
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>>7371942
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>>7371940
I started at 26
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>>7371907
I tried to fix the face and I think I made it worse.
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Today I drew for 8 hours as a way to force myself to actually draw. It wasn't consecutive as I took a few breaks, but I made sure to stop my timer whenever I wasn't actively working. I wasn't sure what to draw so I mostly just did studies from a book.

1/4
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>>7371954
2/4
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>>7371955
This is when my lines stopped being so clean. I didn't realize it at the time but I was getting fatigued most likely.
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>>7371940
who? I'm 26 (and a half!) looking for some age inspiration
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>>7371956
These were copies I did of an artist I admire to end it. I also did a few doodles from imagination but those were godawful and a reminder not to get a big head.
It's been months since I last drew so I hope I can make a habit of it.
Anyways that's what I was able to draw in 8 hours.
4/4
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>>7371962
Gonna need some source on that ass.
Are you a student, wagie, weekend warrior, neet?
Did you learn anything?
For how much have you been drawing?
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>>7371963
source is https://x.com/okinawanogori but he locked his profile.
Neet/weekend warrior.
I've never studied those muscles so I learned those.
I've only drawn a handful of times a year for the past few years. I'm one of those guys who find it hard to pick up a pencil.
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>>7371967
>Neet
Lucky.
>Protected
Another fucking schizo.
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>>7371976
I really like her face.
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>>7371528
This perspective kills the brain
>>7371976
Nice
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>>7371949
20 years too late.
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Guys how am I doing?
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Beginner here, are rulers cheating? (I'm not using any), should I use them? Should I really just be drawing shapes and practicing shading? Why am I so ass at this? Why was I better at drawing cute anime girls with a pen like a year ago?

I'm decent with photoshop, part of me just wants to go digital entirely and draw that way and just keep fixing every mistake manually until it looks how I want, but it's a crutch isn't it, I need to get good this way but i'm so ass, what do I do?
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>>7372030
>are rulers cheating?
yes
>should i use them?
Are you good enough to not use them?
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>>7372031
>Yes
But erasers aren't? I feel like I was making way more progress when I was using a pen back in the day and committing to every line, but i'm just a giga amateur so idk what the fuck i'm talking about
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toska-chan with clean lines, do you love her now??
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>>7372040
i wish i had your ability to draw a character so much as you, or simply draw as much as you
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>>7372034
The whole cheating discussion and muh don't erase is bro science and platitudes. Draw however you're comfortable, that said I don't think you should be using rulers unless you need geometrically perfect architecture drafts because perfectly straight lines, just like circles, are aesthetically boring.
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>>7372052
Well without nitpicking every single straight line and after a lot of erasing, without tracing, without using a ruler, I finally did it, without shading though which is a whole nother thing i'm ass at.

It took like between 30-45 minutes though (I think) so I think that might be really bad though? I'll just try drawing cubes in different angles though, I didn't think it'd take this long, do you think I should focus on shading or just continue drawing cubes/different shapes.
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>>7372048
and why can't you draw?
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>>7372052
Rulers are nice. They can teach/remind your arm how to move in a straight line and a few crisp lines on the page to mog the shit out of your other lines can help you tighten things up.
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>>7372070
i'm so proud of these hips and thighs
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Are we gonna get new threads up in this joint?
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>>7372030
There are only tools, nothing is cheating, the only thing that is unacceptable is plagiarism for profit.

>should I use them (rulers)?
As a guide, to make straight lines, to compare distances and proportions. Look at the strange rune in here >>7371718
That's a ruler.

>Why am I so ass at this?
Your pen control is underdeveloped, lots of short strokes,
Shading without following form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TqNldrAbIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSbhbZ_-VQ


you cant do it, keep posting.
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>>7372143
Nope. Not until image limit or thread's about to fall off. The thread's still usable.
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>>7372111
Your hands need some work
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calculating shadows is breaking my brain
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>>7372198
A very friendly looking cube
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>>7371640
>>7371996
GMI

>>7371718
>>7371907
NGMI
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>>7372091
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>>7371902
Are you going to draw today anon
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>>7372214
I have a work meeting coming soon, then I need to make lunch, and then I'll give it another shot
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https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/5/video
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/tablesofellipses

so uh, tips on actually drawing a circle? it says dont draw 1-line potatoes, go through it 2 or 3 times, and as a result im drawing 2 and 3 line potatoes
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>>7372227
practice
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>>7372206
gave him a friend
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>>7372229
i think im just becoming the best potato drawer and not an ellipse drawer
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>>7372240
ok ill apply my brain a little bit and try something like this, tracing ellipse tool outputs
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>>7372249
At this point it's literally just muscle memory
You just need to train your muscles
On the other hand this is the kind of stuff you will learn if you just draw regardless so I think it's a trap to do this in isolation
Drawing cubes also trains your 3D representation, drawing elipses is just training your muscles
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>>7372253
well i think if im just repeating unguided potatoes then im just training my muscles to draw unguided potatoes
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>>7372261
try this
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>>7372263
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>>7372227
its all muscle memory and eye training, trace some circles and use this template draw small, large circles get a feel of them use your shoulder, elbow and wrist and see which is better for each size.
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>>7372274
If you look straight at the middle and hold it for a few seconds the red dots disappear
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>>7372263
>>7372274
yeah, and it's also in part adapting to this very low friction pentab
im using minimal line stabilization (CSP) on these practice potatoes but when actually drawing something i see no reason not to jack it up
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>>7372277
cone of vision
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Okay, I think I'm starting to get this drawing thing. Look upon my /beg/pepes, ye mighty, and despair.
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>>7372331
Pizza tower coded
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>>7371497
You're starting to get it. Instead of drawing a circle You should try a sphere, like picture related. No idea what to tell you about snouts, I uses cones but I'm a beg like you.
>>7371756
You should be like Harlan Ellison and continue to improve, and when you finally see success show it off to them. His professor said he would never succeed and mailed every successful work to him later on.
>>7372331
Pretty close for day two.
>>7372340
I like it.
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>>7372340
>didnt really care about accuracy anymore
bad attitude
if you don't care about your own art, why should anyone else
if you get tired of it, just take a break
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random portrait
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>>7372352
forgot file
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>>7372231
Now make them kiss

>>7372067
picrel

>>7372331
sovl

>>7372353
this is awesome
what re you doing in the beg thread?
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>>7372355
this is beg and int and im sure there is a lot of stuff that could be better
Also thanks
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>>7372353
Are his eyes intentionally supposed to be that red?
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>>7372353
nice ai slop.
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I wanna ask about drawing perspective
is that Ive seen a lot of these fine works with perspective lines and vanishing points and what not

do they copy from a photo?
if so or if not ,how do they measure the size of things, or they just feel that out, or the draw it relative to the sizes of the other things, or the overall size of the largest element drawn?
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>>7372353
like the other anon said, this is great work
if you want some criticism, I'd say some of the edges are too wobbly, and the white highlights might be overdone and make little sense in some places
I'd try going with more graphic shapes and take more care of the planes in the forehead
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>>7372359
yes

>>7372360
thanks?

>>7372364
thanks! ill keep that in mind
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>>7372091
Dios mio..
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>>7371940
B-but muh neuroplasticity! Muh brain development ends at 25! Muh ADHD! Muh Autism! Muh I'm a dad of 2 and have no time! Muh I can't afford a drawing tablet!
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>>7372210
does that apply to drawing women too? I'm just asking cause I was wondering if you use a different or smaller shape when drawing womens elbows
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>>7371907
USE YOUR EYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS MY GOOOOOOD US YOUR FUCKING EYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS USSSEEEEEEE YOUR FUCKING EEEYYYYYEEEEEEEEES
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>>7372395
The point is you're drawing shoulders completely wrong
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>>7372400
>Nothing cronstuctive
>Just incessant autistic screeching
Never change /ic/
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>>7372400
Let it out. I used to volunteer work with down syndrome kids and I know you've got it tough.
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>>7372404
the way is mentioned all the time >>7371486
they deserve the screeching tbf
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I don’t know what’s worse, no critique on my piece or straight crabbing on my piece
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>>7371528
legs filtered me, if I made them accurate they would look like shit
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sorry, had to repost is cause I didnt like the way I cropped it, but then I found I cant make a better picture of it anyways

anyhow I started this 3 weeks ago, finished yesterday, at first I was testing the faculties I can use to draw, wanted to be somewhat accurate, but didnt really care
at second round I just had fun with it,
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>>7372410
It isnt THAT bad
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>>7372438
looks great
i like the scribbly style
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Can i study two fundamentals at once? For example, making a routine of studying 1 hour of composition and the other hour dedicated to following "Keys to Drawing"?
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a couple more
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>>7372484
The void claims two more innocent shapes
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I guess an exploitable redraw is better than nothing
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>>7372459
Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

What the fuck kind of question is that? Do you think anyone here is a certified educational scientist?
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>>7370709

Today's lady. No lines this time.
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>>7372524
>certified scientist
lol
>educational scientist
loler
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>>7372524
You're right. I was just scared of making a mistake once more but i realize it is a stupid question. Thank you.
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Is this ok?
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>>7372546
The breasts are strangely pointing at opposite polarities
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>>7372529

Darker shades
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everything is awkward, everything is painful. i only got this far after 3 attempts but i think i need to start over if i want it in a state to be worth finishing, i dont know enough about the software to try and shoehorn it into shape
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>>7372546
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>>7372489
the whole gang
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>>7372559
I suck so much ass
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Did I do the shape breakdown okay?

This is another study for the record. Was easier and quicker to do compared to my past ones, but drawing her fingers was still a bitch and trial and error based which was annoying.

I am going to draw her without it being a study next.
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>>7372560
Attach two spheres to the cylinder and put it into the donut.
You will learn a lot from combining forms.
Seriously though, great job anon. The cast shadows on the ground seem incongruent with the light sources though
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>>7372562
The real reason why people use contrapposto is so they can fuck up the alignment and nobody can call them on it.
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>>7372553
and i just realized i split other posts in a totally unrelated thread that are now too old to delet
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>>7372565
>The cast shadows on the ground seem incongruent with the light sources though
agreed, I'm using robertson to calculate shadows, but it gets tricky very fast with floating tilted objects
I'll probably use blender for the next set of geoforms
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>>7372546
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>>7372563
I never though on drawing eyes as protruding hemispheres. Thanks. The shape breakdwn looks great to me
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>>7372576
Dogshit ugly ass book
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>>7372563
This is great.

I did more art. Art is hard.
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I think i had better values this time
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>>7370618
if youre already int which books should you read? read the first few chapters of drawing with the right side and she emphasizes that the book is for beginners
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>>7372582
how DARE you say this
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>>7372599
pyw
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i feel like there's some a good pepe i could make out of this but my head hurts from my attempts at trying to execute it
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I am struggling to find real reference. I want a man standing over a grave flower in hands. Why can't we have a booru with real images I like the tag system
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>>7372610
try AI, has been a godsend for me for poses
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>>7372622
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>>7372622
But the anatomy
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Page one completely done
Gotta redo 6 more due to shitty printer scans
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>>7372627
I will show rest of it just cause why not
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>>7372629
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>>7372632
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>>7372629
>If you had each eyeball from every human on earth, you still couldn't count
Christ alive, anon. This ain't it.
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>>7372633
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>>7372634
I'll trim some fat and unnecessary lines once i remaster
You can point at worst offenders
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>>7372638
Last page
I'll come back when i'm done with it all
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>>7372627
>>7372629
I have no idea what is even going on here
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>>7372645
Fun little comic. Your panel compositions are very bad tho. They are very lazily thrown on and don't really flow well. I'd also recommend using a ruler. Other than that good job on making a comic, that's more than most are willing to do.
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>>7372672
Fair enough
Any comic artist/comic that has really good paneling/composition to learn from?
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>>7372546
Make the breasts more droppy
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im probably going to ask the same sort of question every day but does this sound like a sensible routine? the goal is to draw qt anime gril lineart, eventually put them in lineart backgrounds, then sometime before i die try to get decent shading
A: lines, circles, boxes grind
B: The Complete Guide to Drawing Manga & Anime grind
C: sometimes an exercise from Keys to Drawing
A for a while, B until fatigued, then A some more, then B again or maybe C
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>>7372610
From what perspective?
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>>7372682
A should just be a warmup at the start of the day to loosen up, check your posture, remind yourself you have an arm, etc. Do not get mindfucked by the Giotto meme.
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>>7372685
Front
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>>7372693
Maybe this could work, just add the flowers to the drawing
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>>7372699
This is also a good replacement pose
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>>7371298
Almost done.

>>7371379
Thank you.
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>>7372699
Perfect thanks
>>7372700
This one is good too
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>>7372691
what if my lines and basic shapes are really, really bad to the point of crippling my ability to to B which is full of filling in by drawing circles, square inside circle etc?
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>>7372709
nta but only doing practice is not what you want. sprinkle in some shit you actually want to draw to stop your brain from rotting away (like many of us)
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>>7372711
what i want to draw is my waifu but dekinai
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Hey guys I tried the eye highlight thing from arcane, what do you think?
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>>7372726
Is she your wifu?
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>>7372742
yes, c.c.
that one's by creayus
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>>7372709
What if you stopped making excuses and retreating to the brainless easy things and instead did the necessary hard things?
Grab some junk mail or newspaper or whatever and trace a bit of it, I'll bet you have little to no problem getting lines that qualify as good enough. You could make the lines if you knew what they were supposed to look like, but you don't, and surprise surprise, you're not going to learn that by filling pages with circles.
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>>7372645
I am loving the comic. Keep grinding.
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>>7372749
drawing the anime face is very hard and fatiguing, as is the embarrassment of seeing the result when im done
im also tracing gridlines and what have you on CSP
it doesnt help that im also adapting to pen tablet, the low friction and no give is new. and i started drawing just a few days ago.

but what other necessary hard things could i do? im all ears
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>>7372746
You will forever by cucked by creayus, good luck!
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>>7372353
Great thumb. Ugly up close. You overworked the face
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I will conquer all the 3d forms
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>>7372785
Looking good
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Hello beg, last batch of shoes. Thank god its over. Shoes are not easy to draw.

>>7372736
i think its called makeup or mascara
>>7372707
i dont like how seamlessly his legs disappear, next time use reference of people standing in the field, their legs never disappear so cleanly cause grass is random. Another thing i cannot determine is what is going behind him. Are these clouds, mountains or a burning village? It needed to be done in less saturated colors to imply depth and perspective better. Last big nitpick is the black cape: too flat Even black cloth reflects light and is never perfectly straight
>>7372682
>sometimes i will do the easiest most beg friendly fundies
>sometimes
do keys to drawing first and foremost, fuck A, waste of time, you get line practice every time you hold pencil anyway
>>7372645
completely unreadable, research what is composition and or maybe read some how2comic book like Marcos Mateu Framed Ink. But it looks like you had fun doodling it, so i kneel
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>>7372793
my problem with keys to drawing is more logistical, like this whole chapter involving other people, or things that i cant really arrange with my laptop and pentab except on days i can get to the library and set up an actual desk
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>>7372800
What if you stopped making excuses?
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>>7372820
ok ill shoot, will you take an hour to pose for me tomorrow
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any know what book this is?
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>>7372824
https://www.amazon.com/-/zh_TW/%E6%96%89%E8%97%A4-%E3%82%80%E3%81%AD%E3%81%8A/dp/4416516053
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>>7372824
some nip dumbing down roomisu
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>>7372841
Oh this is better i can actually read it
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im a /3/fag but my dumbass decided to use blenders grease pencil to animate the mouth in my current project. haven't done any 2d animation before, idk why i thought this would be a good idea but I'm in too deep to not follow through at this point. can i get some feedback on this? want to fix up as much as I can before going through to color it.

the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fePtLL7oRDg
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Isn't knowing geometry just better way to learn to draw shapes than just drawing them. Like it's all just math
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other girl will grope her from behind

when i draw other girl ofc
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changing it the local value
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we done with this thread soon? we're already in page 6
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Chibis are fun and quick to make. It is a nice way to put into practice everything I know so far.

>>7372868
Adding some squash and stretch to the lifting motion would give it more energy.

>>7372785
shade her

>>7372707
What were you trying to say with that, I'm just stuck in the yellow spot in the middle.

>>7372876
honestly only in super specific cases, the most useful theorem you will find in art is the thales theorem,
>Do you need 19 evenly spaced windows in your building?
Use Thales.
>Are your vanishing points far away?
use Thales

I have yet to find any other concept used IRL, polar coordinates is a nice paradigm to have in mind sometimes, but not really worth teaching. Only when you get to computer graphics do you start to "create" art with math.
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>>7372838
If this is your's anon, I love this. It has soul and appeal. Obv I think there are improvements, especially in the the colour blending, but despite the flaws I think it's a wonderful drawing and the rest of the thread should be ashamed of themselves for ignoring this piece.
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>>7372904
only interested in the mouth at this point fren, thanks though
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>>7372904
it's kind of hard to explain what I mean, but Isn't everything just a constant once perspective is set. So if you think about it everything should be just pure math.
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>>7372868
IA WISHE IA WER UH BIRDU
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>>7372902
Only another 3-4 days until we fall off catalog, oh no.
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>>7372925
Page 7. ah geez
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>>7372935
looks pretty good desu minus her tiddies, they look very weird
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>>7372935
BAGS OF SAND NIGGA
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>>7370618
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Does this look 3d enough? Is my construction UTTER SHITE?
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>>7372967
where is the horizon line anon? placing it will help you with your contour lines.
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Can I get some perspective help? I had to eye it, the ref has way more vanishing points, but in trying to just work at applying it more naturally
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>>7372971
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>>7372972
Also, can this be the thread challenge for now ? I’d love to see different anon’s takes on this
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>>7372599
if you can't self-direct your learning then you're probably not /int/
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>>7372682
have you drawn some anime girls yet? stop procrastinating
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I never learned my fundies, all I do is use a bunch of reference and copy them
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>>7372902
Making new threads at bump limit is a fairly new thing. I haven't been here for months so I don't know how it started.
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>>7372986
self directed to a list of supposed int books
>>7370618
read through 60 pages and the author said it was mostly for beginners so i had the ingenious idea of simply asking if anyone could tell me which ones were for intermediates. id assume based on the snarky response you havent read them and if you did you couldve just said which ones were for intermediates
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>>7372971
>>7372972
Anon, it feels overworked and very hard to continue, at least I would feel confused with so many boxes, what I have seen pros do is box the big object and group smaller things as boxes. in your case a box for the table, blue man, fat guy and for the things on the table a single box grouping them.

But then get the wrong idea your draftsmanship is really nice.

>>7372980
it looks daunting, and probably fail but will put my pen where my mouth is.

>>7372902
No, I'm going to try the other anon idea, even though I don't agree with it.

>>7372999
skim read for some time. Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters is often recommended.
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>>7372967
Permabeg
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>>7373016
Good critique man quality stuff
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>>7373005
Your methodology would’ve been a lot simpler, thanks for the advice
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>>7373005
Also it’s very daunting but I think you’ll learn a lot. It’s from hearthstone, and the art has a lot of good perspective so it’s good reference
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>>7372935
>>7373042
Make a gif of this so it looks like her boobs are flying up and down
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>>7373049
BASED
>BASED
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>>7372972
>>7373033
as far as I'm going for today

>>7373034
its a nice illustration.

>>7373049
Drop a subtle hint if you are held hostage against your will.
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thought it would be fun to try rendering one of Xiao's characters as if it were a geoform
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>>7373058
Helpful drawing anon. I see what you mean
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I'd post, but my portraits today turned out d o o k i e.

So have some eyes. Been drilling these for a while now.
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Show me how you draw a face with timelapse
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>>7372909
>blending
yeah definitely. that was after a failed attempt and some testing to improve on it, but i think the secret is "don't use crayon on smooth copy paper"
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Reminder to not take insults and crabbing seriously
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>>7372967
Draw actual boxes for the ribcage and torso
Find out how to draw the ribcage and pelvis correctly
Where are the clavicles?
Face looks completely flat like a mask
You have the crotch sticking out like some kind of plate, it should wrap around the underside
Draw the contour lines properly
Draw the full body
Use references
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work in progress
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>>7372992
What does your art look like?
>>7373093
Yeah, some days are like that.
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>>7373171
this was all my art in the past 2 years. The only one I didn't use ref for was tifa, at least for her body (mainly cause I tried to use a reference, messed it up and went with it anyway)

I posted this in the art progress thread and I decided to be lazy and reuse the image here since you were asking for my art
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>>7372935
Thanks for the fanart!
>>7372548
>>7372680
I was going for this kind of breasts but I messed up
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i'm not sure if i like this one at this point, hands are killing me
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>>7373186
figured as much. reminded me of how they drew breasts in old 90's and early 00's anime
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>>7373378
Bleh
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this thread seems to be dying off. can we finally have a new one?
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>>7373460
everyone keeps asking the poor guy who has to make these threads every day instead of just making the new one themselves lol
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>>7373182
Looks fine to me. If you drew something I liked--whether it be a lewd image or some character--I would save it without a second thought. You also seem to be able to draw from imagination just fine.
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>>7373460
Is a new thread going to wake up all the burgers and send euros home from work early to start posting?
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>>7373468
The guy kinda knows what he is doing, so why should i half ass it?
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>>7373482
I'll post my piece when the new thread drops. I feel this one is just about done. Since it's page 8 already
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>>7373492
OP is hack use https://amethyst-chanda-85.tiiny.site/
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>>7373301
Sorry, but i immediately thought of this when i saw your art
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>>7373493
I was not actually confused about why you wanted a fresh thread, I was making fun of you for trying to be coy.
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>>7373504
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>>7373498
>collage creator
garbage
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>>7372953
This is pretty damn nice anon.
Post ref?
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Tried another full length on 9x12" paper, kept the length of the arms but had to pare her legs back to anime proportions. Naturally if you're drawing figure studies regularly you won't run into this issue as much.
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>>7373508
It gets the job done, and a lot of people are happy to see their work in OP.
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>>7373516
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>>7373042
>>7373049
Oh fuck I posted on the other thread, but this one is still alive.

Blog? I like your work.
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>>7373819
https://dad.gallery/submissions/244460
https://x.com/1Zzz1010
Behold, true power
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>>7373966
why do you always need to stick your nose where it doesn't belong



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