If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7390096
>>7392952Lmao. I straight up thought the driver was a CHUD.https://youtu.be/1tIKJVaGed0?t=1m3s
rate my sketchbook studies
>>7392952Likeness is hard.
anyone needs a redline or something?
Hello beg.>>7392960Your studies mog mine. i kneel>>7392964it is hard to have likeness when you cover eyes with sunglasses like that. Most character is in the eyes and nearest areas around them
Thread Challenge
I made this fanart today, I like the eye.
>>7392634Bump
>>7392996Work on getting better first. Need more dynamic gestures and poses. Everything seems very stiff.
>>7392561From last thread. Something weird, opened the pic in my phone and she looked way browner there, wtf is up with that? In my PC monitor she looks fair skinned. Guess I gotta calibrate it somehow. Maybe I should get a VA panel for my next monitor.>>7392565Thanks man!
>>7392980Yeah, I know. It's just that the ref had the sunglasses and I thought it would be a nice little challenge. pic related.>>7392960Those are nice studies, anon!The cloth ones on the bottom left seems messier (specially the veil one) than the others.Idk how to work on your style, so I can't really give you pointers.>>7393020Nice attempt at impressionism.
booba
"Fun" №1264
>>7393042nta, but i did recognize those bony cheeks. mission accomplished.
How to not be a /beg/ at social media?I've been posting about once a week and I made a video about my latest piece and I also have images (obviously).Should I space them out, posting one thing a day, or just up them at the same time? Does it matter?
>>7392996>but how do I advertisetry making appealing art first
>>7393086>does it matter?no, if you want numbers, you need>skill>to draw what people likethe more skill you have, the more you can get away with not drawing what people normally look for (fanart, coom, etc)
made it in OP count: 3
How does one get good at hatching and rendering? Trad btw
>>7393119that neck is snapped
Just starting out.
I feel like I'm progressing and regressing at the same time. Am I doing alright with the construction? I can't tell anymore.
Anything wrong with proportions? the hips /butt /crotch are killing me.
>>7392986Not cute enough
>>7393137torso is small if you're going for realistic proportions; there's basically no stomach. it's fine for coomer proportions i guess.
>>7393141how bigger should it be? its roughly 6 heads tall.
ContinueYes, you guessed right, it was an anime girl in a vacuum! Although I'm thinking about making this one a hag.
>>7393137>>7393143NTA, but you count the heads from top of the head to the chin, not to the bottom of the neck, like you did. You actually have 7 heads of proportion, same as Loomis. But your midpoint is way off, so you legs are way too long and the torso is way too small, if you want to follow those proportions.
>>7393198(OK, I am dumb and forgot this stuff, it's been years and I've never used it lol) Actually Loomis has 8 heads on his female proportions.
>>7393198Damn.
>>7393198Loomis proportions don't look good on the style anon is getting at. Longer legs are preferable.
>>7393198Right looks like shit lol look at those shoulders, they are wider than her hips lmao is this supposed to be a tranny?
>>7392986I barely draw enough as is, and you want me to draw nogs?
>>7393215Of course a nodraw would make an excuse to not draw.
got filtered by basic perspective again
>>7393221don't whine anon, it's unbecoming, cool drawing.
>>7393217I'm not a nodraw, I'm a barelydraw.And you're trying to make me waste what little time I do.Not today my friend.Todays is hands and feet day
>>7393227PYW or nodraw
>>7393210I agree, it was mainly to correct his use of head proportions. Proportion, imo, is something you learn to see so you can use how you want.>>7393214Probably the beauty standard of the time. I think it was Marilyn Monroe who had those big shoulders? Can be wrong tho.
>>7393214can't believe i have to explain this on a board where people study anatomy but women with V shaped bodies existnext you'll tell me michelle obama is a tranny
>>7393246>he thinks the boarding school for reprobate coom artists is 'a board where people study anatomy'
>>7392993desu the more I look at it the more I like it, and that never fuckin happens I always hate everything I do.its the fucking EYE it looks real
>>7393137
>>7393258any more cute little anime guidelines pics like this. i like these
>>7393246>hips as wide as shoulders>b-but the somebody drew a v on it!wow
>>7393269Dumbass
>>7393268it's from pic related, dig around the artbook thread
Rise and grind, gamers
>She has day off today, because it's Finland's independence day. She gets to play in the riverI wanted to draw her fully, how does she look?
>>7393284tits look off but otherwise super nice
>>7393284I'm going to push her over.
>>73929863 bad thread challenges in a row. There's only that many thousand hours in my life that I'll spend drawing - no nignog will be drawn in any of those
>>7392960good
>>7393285the overhead 3/4 perspective was pretty difficult to do. I'm glad she looks good>>7393294Don't be mean to her
>>7393229
How do you draw a really square jaw from 3/4 view?Most of the references I have are of more elongated jawlines, and I found it kind of hard to visualize the squareness of the jaw.
>>7393284happy independence day cyclops-chan. I hope she has lots of fun
>>7393324maybe like this?
>>7393335thanks, looking at it now, I think I drew the chin a bit too receded on the viewer's left
>>7393354take it with a grain of salt I'm just a permabeg
>>7393324Draw through
>>7393499how long have you been drawing?
>>7393119Someone posted the book last thread. Read rendering in Pen and Ink then do picrel 1 million times
>>7393324isnt it arleady square
>>7393499The mouth looks like a weird mustache and the lower lip line looks like a :3 face
>>7393539carpel tunnel speedrun tech
>>7392952Is it over?
>>7393554Draw from the elbow and do wrist exercises. You'll be fine.
i kinda like how the armor looks, too bad im not really looking for this kind of renderedred style for this drawing
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 06: I feel like im getting the hang of not so retarded alien proportions, and I feel she no longer has a real flouride stare, but shes still looks a bit off. Still, feel I have made some progress.
>>7393586it would be a lot more productive if you cracked open the manga and fully copied some makimas instead of just the head
No thread ethot? Really? Here you go.
>>7393616
>>7393589been thinking of that. Probably gonna do one more tomorrow and then one the second week of december I'm gonna try some different stuff.Right now, I'm just focused on making sure I draw consistently
>>7393127Fuck now I can't unsee thatAnd I was proud of that one too
>>7392952Can anyone provide an answer? I don’t understand, I seem to be doing tone and volume exercises from textbooks and video courses, but I can’t draw beautifully. I don't understand what's wrong. Everything is somehow dirty, soapy, muddy. What should I do to make myself better?
>>7393630remember that humans are not owls
>>7393633You're getting the values right, but your strokes aren't following the shading contours. You either need to adjust your stroke placement, or use a blending tool to smooth out the surface.
>been drawing literally all my life>tfw still beg as fuckThe hair is blank because my powerlevel is not high enough to make it look good>>7393539>Someone posted the book last threadI think I'm blind, can't seem to find it after going through the thread multiple times. Help?
>>7393633>dirty, soapy, muddydunno what that means, you seem to be consistently overestimating how bright the light midtones are tho
>>7393639But if I use too much blur brush, it will create even more soap. I would like to learn how to use hard brushes to capture tones. How to do this?
>>7393667You break it down into planes, or you just don't. A hard brush is hard, you're not going to paint smooth gradients with it.
>>7392952Any advice?
>>7393640I just said the name of the book "Rendering in Pen and Ink." by Guptill. And your drawing's aren't that bad, you just need to work on your form.
I am fucking demoralized. Seems like copying heavily stylized stuff like this is harder rather than easier.
>>7393706sauce me up bro. also it is hard but dw just keep doing it. it get easier but the road to get there may be long.
>>7393706Of course it is. There is less detail to hide your mistakes. Anon in the other thread glazing copying is a dumbass, just ignore him. You really do need a decent amount of technical prerequisite to get anything out of it. You want to get yourself out of perfunctory shape drawing, not box yourself into it.
>>>7392636I have done almost nothing but master studies and figure drawing all of that time thoughmy consistency is pretty shit howeverI tend to see the best peaks when I do a lot of work in a shorter period of time and observe a lot of drawings frequently. it tends to go down if I stretch it out too much. this is a very ungrateful kind of craft.
>>7393706post your non stylized copiesI don't want to be one of those fundie parrots but if you want to copy those stylized drawings you need some gesture/construction/anatomy underlying it and it becomes a breeze most of the time
>>7393750forgot pic
I didn't have the reference material in the same window the second time, I didn't have the reference material in the same window the second time. My three week old Asami piece is only better than the one I did today because I didn't have the reference material open in the same window as my drawing.This is my mantra
I don't understand what I should do next. I outlined the shadow and light map, added a mid tone, added a darkest dark in occlusion areas, added reflected light. Until this moment, I kind of understand what to do, but I don’t understand what to do afterWhat to do now? Just use a blur brush, soften the transitions and add even more midtones?By the way, how shitty does this look? Tell me honestly
>>7393755do some fundies you dumb nigga what the fuck are you trying to accomplish no offense
>>7393756that looks pretty dope and now you need to blend and decide what parts have soft and hard edges. I am a bit surprised you made it this far without knowing that
>>7393757I'm trying the copying method and wanted to see if I could copy without having the reference right in front of me
>>7393764if by copying method you are talking about drawing what you see like a printer this makes no senseit is impossible to memorize images like coordinates like thatyou can however recall angles and features on simple shapes you understand and have memorized using fundies
>>7393760No, of course I know about this, I know about different types of edges, I watched many different videos about chiaroscuro, but I don’t understand how to use this information in practice
>>7393766Yeah angles would be a good start, I'll use the clock system. Should help with the negative space between hair and the facial structure for sure. Thanks for the advice!
>>7393768I'm still not sure what you meanif you rendered it on a different layer you can use soft eraser otherwise you can use the airbrush
>>7393277He is right, the 4th one has the exact same hips and shoulder width as the 1st one but midwits see the red line on top and fall for it.
>>7393269you will never be a woman
>>7393269
where did the stickied wiseman image go I'm scare
>>7393818I can't quit :(
How do I work out where "I'm" seeing my drawing from. I can't really work out body parts facing towards me.
>>7393388>>7393358thanks for the advice, I like this result a lot morenow to work on the eyes which I always have trouble making look good
The bendy bodies are back...I hate overlapI hate depthI hate perspective.
I'm so tired of being bad, how do I stop being a lazy sack of shit
>>7393851Have you tried having fun? Stop doing studies and start doodling
>>7393851draw for 1 minute every day and eventually you'll get into it and draw for longer
>>7393818i can quit porn for relatively long stretches if i find some other hyperfixation to hold my attention
https://youtube.com/shorts/5qS7bz4cAEQ
>>7393677it looks expressive but I do not understand what is going on - does he look in to a window or maybe its a mirror or maybe he is sitting on a bed. and. there some kind of cap somewhere.
>>7393887Anon discovers construction.It could be the hard part but it's like 30% of success, because pose its not just primitives in space but what character does.
>>7393908The video isn't for me. It's for the people that have their doubts about construction due to the countless shit posts about Loomis boxes.
>>7393677Caitlyn...easy on the Shimmer
A doodle
>>7393948A noodle, you mean
Can I get some critique?I drew this for someoneSomeone told me that I need to learn to exaggerate the pose but I don't fully understand what I'm doingI was just using referencesWhat should I be working on?
>>7393948More like a shoodle moodle but ok.
>>7393948needs headpats and cheek pulls
>>7393886
>>7393954Right now, your pose reads as a completely straight line which isn't very interesting or dynamic. When drawing from reference, it is perfectly okay to exaggerate the reference.You should be working on trying to read the line of action and gesture. Try reading some books for animation, the FORCE book, and watch some YouTube videos.
>>7393954why she green
>>7393058Why are you wasting so much time on pointless rushed warmups? Honestly, I think you should kill yourself at this point.
Can one of you please sketch the missing eye in a way that looks right?I keep trying to do it, but it keeps looking weird. She keeps looking bug-eyed when I do it.
>>7393968Thanks anon, this is the ref I usedCan you give me an example of something more dynamic?even with a few lines>>7393969It's the color of the dudes OC though I must say the vertical picture looks much better than mineWhat made you do that?
>>7393993NTA, you should work on exaggerating the pose, like the Force thingy teaches. That way when you like the ref but isn't happy with the pose, you can just change it instead of going in a whole search.
kk
>>7393788now compare with andy's woman who has a pelvis that's more narrow than the ribcage.
>>7394056Thank you!
>>7392952trying to get better at portraits but my goal is to do animations and digital painting. I thought this would be a good place to start. the eyes look nothing like the ref the hair was too hard for me to put into detail, but it's progress.
>>7394100>She keeps looking bug-eyed when I do it.Because eyes are on a straight plane but you're probably placing them on a sphere, like a bug's eyes
>>7394146>>7393990answered wrong post, oopslooks like somebody did it arleady anyway
>>7393755Alright we're back to being semi-on model, did the angle fundies and had a reference in the same window. Still a long way to go before I can truly have it be a copy
>>7393284She is such a cute girl, she looks so huggable.
Hello beg, the figgies grind continues>>7394146inflation fetish? lol>>7394070next time try to use a reference>>7393942very cool>>7393886>copying bargue plate>the plate is specially tuned for begs to have easy time doing the values correctlyand you did not use white or black and fucked it up. why?>>7393768this is the case of "think less, draw more"
>>7394193>inflation fetish? lolhe was meant to get fat, but I couldnt get the right bodytype
>>7394193go to /g/ and get rid of that license activator already
>>7393993Your drawing is already less dynamic than the reference. You're missing the slight right lean of the entire pose, the tilt of the head to one side, and the pinch on the left. Of course, you're free to change a reference pose to what you wish, but I feel like when the result of the changes is less interesting than the original reference, I think there's a problem.If I were to take this reference and draw something with it, I would probably swap the pinch and stretch sides and exaggerate it. I think that works better for your drawing since the character is putting her arms out to the right already.
>>7394198but the SOVL
Crab- i mean Goblin here to remind anon that you don't need to learn anatomy if you learn how to draw clothes, you don't need proportion/color theory or all that just draw lol, Peace.
how do I set a brush to draw at a constant pressure in krita?
>>7394216you click F5 (on keyboard, shortcut), then you uncheck size pressureF5 is the most important krita shortcut.>>7394198watermarks fucks up AI slop, besides what do you suggest i would do about the trump won watermark?
>>7394216You can go in your keybinds too and look for>Use Pen PressureI have my toggle set to W. So every time I press W, I switch between full pressure, to using pressure sensitivity
>>7394193>next time try to use a referenceKitbashed a bunch of them but i guess i fucked up.
>spent days adjusting and redrawing parts of the pic until the pencil marks became permanently smudged onto the paperAny comments on the proportions? Gonna ink it after if it's alright (hopefully)
>>7394070along with using ref, first do studies of artists that go for a similar thing
deciced to change the design
>>7394146You're the anon who asked about crosshatching right? Did this in 5 min but I think something like this would work
>>7392952I drew some fanart in some scap paper I had around, still learning the basics but I feel like it has improved my drawings overall.
>>7394229I've used himukai works as a ref for the colors actually. Imo one of the worst bit of my drawing is the way i put the shadow on the back leg. How do you think the shadow should be done there? Looking at himukai drawing theres always some big stuff separating the shadowed leg to the rest of the body (like a skirt) but thats not the case in my drawing. I know its just a bit of poop in a sea of shit but ive already encountered this problem before and its kinda annoying. Here is a redo.
>>7394304you're still kinda afraid of the darklook how he drops parts of shields, full body parts and items into shadow, depending on the light setup he choosesyou're doing that but only partially, forgetting parts that should have both light and shadow (the glove, the shield)also study how he handles materials, look at the difference between your sword and hisI'd recommend putting that drawing to rest and doing some copies first
>>7394262I've never really crosshatched before.Git any suggestions for me?
>>7394304It doesnt look appealing to me and I would change it like thisI dont know about the colors tho
>>7394319The crosshatching you did here is not really consistent. https://www.craftsy.com/post/hatching-and-cross-hatchinghttps://globalcomix.com/news/details/277/creator-tips-and-tricks-12-hatching-and-cross-hatchingThe most appealing form is contour crosshatching, in my opinion, but you need more for armor alone. You can switch it up, in pic rel I did a few different types to illustrate it.Also I figured his elbow and forearm part was fabric, but I might be wrong, if it's also metal disregard what I did there.
>>7394301gem cause 'zellig
crit ,chat
>>7394314I'll try to look into all of that deeper then. Trying to keep a light setup in mind is pretty hard I find. >>7394323Yeah I can see some of the fuck up i've done better that way, thanks.
>>7394340Consider the following:Add some light on the armor from the purple flame.Hand looks a little off (in my version still, I suck at hands) Fixed the head and eyes a littleIdk what the thing on his chest is supposed to be so I couldn't really do much with it
>>7394319>>7394336>The most appealing form is contour crosshatchingThen you got someone like pic related who just says "fuck the contour".To get better at crosshatching: The book "Rendering in pen and ink" is a good starter, but look how artists you like do it, and look at what people who are known for their rendering do it.
>>7394363Hatching like this is very good if you know how to apply it, and sadly many people do not. This artist is very skilled at hatching.Thanks for the book rec, I will give it a read if I can manage to yarrr it somewhere
>>7394336No you're right it's fabric. This is my first attempt at hatching. I didnt do much because I don't know what im doing. I did just enough to get advice. I'll erase and start again after reading.
>>7394323Also I should add the other character will have a glowing face so I was unsure how I should handle crosshatching in light bathed areas
hehenope
>>7394336Doesn't really give it a metallic shine
>>7394366Okay, good luck!>>7394373Yeah I did it in 5 min and was trying to demonstrate several types of hatching, if done right it can, pic rel is a study I did where part of it had armor
>>7394358>>7394340My guy I fucked up on the arm, I think it actually should be way longer, or if it's foreshortened the hand should be way bigger. Pic rel
>>7394376damn yours looks better .i think i should have done hatching like yours plus i think i have selected wrong pose for the hand, should have gone for something more normal pose
Should I study a single artist until I can copy their work perfectly (as if it's ever going to happen) or should I copy multiple artists?
>>7394385copying multiple artist i think would be better
>>7394385You should copy what you want and don't force yourself to stick to one artist. You can combine different things you learn from various artists so just copy what you want
>>7394370Maybe sweden isn't so bad after all
>>7394399No, it is.
>>7394385https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUcw0Ts28ioDefinitely more than one, just watch out for the "inbreeding" that the video mentions.
noob gains for sure but I'm at the "landmarks" part of Michael Hampton's book and it's actually working, nice. Just 499 more pages of figures before it sticks lmao.
>>7393982Fuck you. I don't have the talent to do anything else.Anyway, here's my new, daily, "fun" drawing.
>>7394471draw something other than pointless scribbles or kill yourself
>>7394471NTA, try, idk, gesture? It's glorified stick figures.But really, literally just draw, it's ok to suck.
>>7394471the talent blackpill is brutal
>>7394471these are my favorite shitposts.
>>7393942I like how the knight is turning out this far, but I have the feeling, the Gardevoir is going into the wrong direction. It somehow doesn't match the knight's shading and looks worse.Someone got an idea what I'm doing wrong?
>>7394480this is my reference
>>7394475
I can't fucking render, I just can't fucking do it, even if I try my hardest to pull it offJesus fucking christ I want to kill myself
the only way i can get decent looking lines is by drawing them over my sketch layer and then erasing everything i dont like
>>7394488Post it
>>7394487Much better. Keep challenging yourself like this or kill yourself.
>>7394487based, please more of this instead of the sucide inducing shapes
>>7394471>talent'talent' is a spook.
>>7394491WaitIs she a virgin who doesn't know what sex is? Is he keeping an actual tentacle in there? I'm confused
>>7394512The tentacle with a piercing is a representation of his dick having a piercing. I wanted to keep it sfw so I drew a tentacle instead (it's his ability too)
>>7394494
>>7394528I like how it looks. Show me the full drawing
>>7394471Is an animation server telling you to do this by any chance?>>7394476>Gesture>Glorified stick figuresOh nononononnnn
>>7394531
Why does everyone say to draw from life? How is it any different from drawing from pngs or shit?
i made this box
>>7394226Torso and legs are way too long. She's like 9.5 heads tall here. Also the leg in front looks pretty stiff
>>7394551Photos are 2D images that trick your brain into seeing them as 3D. Drawing from life is real 3D.You can't move around and observe a photograph to understand it's form better.
>>7394559Amazing.
>>7394559Now draw a pair of boobs with boxes
>>7394565>Legs are too longIf you're being strictly realistic but legs can be exaggerated quite a lot without looking off, especially if it's the focus of the image.
>>7394565Her torso actually matches the proportion of the leg in the background. The front leg is too short. Shortening both legs would mean the torso and arms would have to shorten to maintain proportion.
crit
>>7394590upper body is all sorts of fucked up, specially face.legs looks weird but stylized enough to pass at simple glance.
>>7394590bro. I'm not trying to be offend, genuinely, is her foot supposed to be a hoof?
>>7394590My crithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCIytuvgd0
>>7393893Meeting someone in the doorway, but thank you for the feedback, good to know
is there a good youtube vid that shows you how to paint digitally? Cause the way i do it always turns out a shitty soulless muddy blob messOther artists i see just throw down colours and shapes and it just *works* somehow
>>7394663pic unrelated?
Work in progress.
silly question but how do you move from on the big picture to moving on smaller details, especially when copying art?
>>7394704Yep, that's quite a silly question.
>>7394577Yeah the idea for this piece was to mimic and exaggerate the proportions of supermodels with really long and slender figures, I find it aesthetically pleasing>>7394565>>7394580By front leg you mean the left one that stretches down to the ground? Any suggestions how to fix it?
western jeans got me...
>>7394708That looks very good anon, congrats.
Still undeniably shit at this but I feel like I'm making some kind of slow process
my tablet works, what should I replace MSpaint with? krita?
>>7394730>BOOBA BROYou will download and install krita right fucking now, my good friend:https://krita.org/es/download/
>>7394735Between you and my friends thats 3 votes for krita, consider it done
>>7394668>unhelpful snarky faggot award
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 07: Starting to lightly experiment with clothes as well. Tried also measuring out proportions and blocking them in as advised to me by another anon
My color layering process is simple fill layer -> shadows -> highlights.But sometimes in the case of very light or very dark refs it's necessary to work 'backwards'. How does one find the simple color in images like pic rel? Or perhaps my process is wrong...
>>7394750Eyes too high up.
old ms paint sketches and new version of the old
>>7394810Nah man he's going for that BLAME style
Remember y'all. The difference between a mistake and stylistic choice is ability to correct the mistake if you needed to.
>>7394815
>>7394823Cinema https://youtu.be/I1vqC9PxPck?si=KSYOoxvIO5-ltHlq
>>7394816Fix your jaws ffs. A not so bad drawing fucked over by the jaws.
pepper
>>7394810Hmm, I thought it looked a little off on top, though I thought perhaps I made her hair a little too flat.Still, some minor adjustments I feel like its a bit better. Tried to shorten her face a tad on the right, and thinned her long hair strand.
>>7394828idk man i just draw anime-shovel until it looks okay for me
Some of Elizaa Ivanova practice
gonna post some characters would love some feedback>>7393616>>7393617my fav in the thread
>>7394851
>>7394748dumb questions get dumb replies
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>>7394857
Finish, kinda half-assed the coloring lol
>>7393818Mariel please try drawing non round anime faces, you haven't progressed at all because of it
>>7392986y'all cowards for not trying to draw her
BEHOLD>>7394717thank you!
>>7394630yeah upper body really got cooked , i gotta put more focus in anatomy chat>>7394631XDDD
can you be better at drawing one gender over the other? I feel like I'm much better at drawing women than men since I draw girls more often
>>7394859cool styleNeeds fundies though>>7394861cuteNeeds fundies though
something seems too off in this one, gonna line her once more also this scene and angle suck but have to redraw from scratch to fix
What's this paper texture/ noise brush that a lot of artists use?I keep seeing it more and more, and I'm failing to recreate it in Krita
>>7394915remember to use #39neko
Okay I need help>feel mentally like the worst drawer on the planet>I don't even want to use the word 'artist' here >Find a random video on youtube that tells you to draw boxes>learn a little bit of perspective>nothing changes>not sure how to learn more perspective>keep a rubic's cube on your desk, still can't figure it out entirely- especially cylinders>not even sure how this will help you draw hot NSFW porn like the amazing artists I likeWhat's the next thing you do? I've had my drawing tablet for less than a week. Like, specifically if you were me, what would you go and work on.
>>7394921>learn a little bit of perspective>wtf guys why am i not goode yet>also ive been drawing for 4 daysishygddt
>>7394924I just don't know what kinds of questions I should be asking myself while I grind away boxes endlessly and for every post of someone saying to do loomis heads there's a post calling that person a retard.
>>7394926You can try Loomis, but stop if you hate it. You'll make more progress learning your own way, than forcing yourself to do Loomis, and quitting altogether because it's tedious, boring and uninspired.>draw something you like>why does it look like shit?Hand looks fucky, sketch is flat, bad colors>look up tutorials/studies online>try it isolated a few times>make another drawing of something you likeThat's the gameplay arc. draw -> what did I do wrong -> practice -> draw
>>7394932I'd prefer if I didn't have to draw until I was good at it, because I'm going to feel really embarrassed looking at those drawings alone much less posting them on /beg/ for critique but I'm going to screenshot this post and take it to heart.
>>7394934All the embarassment you feel for you bad drawings now, is going to be pride when you look back and see how much you've improved.
what kind of /beg/ am I?
>>7394948the soulful beg>>7394921pic related
new to digital,how to draw a gradient? i can do flat shading but i cant figure out how to do a proper gradient for "realistic" shading, i want to utilise it for coloring the clothes and their folds. i'm using the airbrush pressure in krita. maybe it's a brush issue or my pressure control issue,but i really have no idea, i'm getting overwhelmed with how digital art works.
>>7394968Lots of different ways to do it, try these methods and see which one you like. These are done in Photoshop but Krita has similar tools. If you're having issues with pressure control you can lower the Flow setting so it's easier to control.https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/brush-technique-hard-and-softhttps://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/smudge-tool-for-blendinghttps://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt1https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt2https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt3
Fuck it, Ive tried a million times to paint the hair and face but I can't do it so I'll just move on
i feel that the anatomy is off.advice with adjustments?
>>7395003head too big compared to body, and limbs too short
i feel like the little mistakes on them tower and adding up too fast. start over or keep going?
>>7395009wrong version
>>7395004ty for the feedback
Looking at them side by side I get what I'm doing wrong but then I make the same mistakes again and again. I don't understand how to be accurate with my copies
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>>7395048
>>7395049wow, that looks amazing.ty for the "redline"
>>7395059it is not but always welcome
I think the problem is that I go too fast, I don't know how to draw slower>>7395051How do you do this with a picture on your phone/pc?
>>7395068Sorry, it's mathematically impossible to find the middle of a picture.
>>7395068Do that one exercise from drawing on the right side of the brain where you set a timer for like 10 minutes and draw the creases on your hand without looking at the drawing, usually my go to every few months if I have simian mind.Makes your brain go apeshit and want to stop or speed up but you just keep drawing those little lines slowly like you're tracing the path in your mind and the voices will quiet down and you'll slow down and focus harder on each line.
Painting this dragon atm.
>>7395080based
>>7395091please don't encourage inflation scaley fetishists.
>>7394921>not even sure how this will help you draw hot NSFW porn like the amazing artists I likehttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHGuMuprDarMz_Y9Fbw_d2wsYou look like you should be learning figure drawing desu. Watch this playlist and practice the stuff. Don't be discouraged if it looks like shit, it's called practice for a reason.>>7394926Don't grind anything endlessly! You grind for some time/as a warmup and go do drawing stuff that you actually like.Also>or every post of someone saying to do loomis heads there's a post calling that person a retard.There is probably a post like that for every teaching method, including "just draw" lol
>>7395094i thought the colors looked nice but i can see how the picture might be fetishy
Why do some Krita brushes become more of a series of dots, rather than a straight line, as they get bigger?This sucks.
>>7395096it was merely a jest
>>7395096Thanks, it kinda is yeah.
>>7395129>>7395128oh no.
just had an epiphany that i have plateaued because i've started figure drawing again, this time with new symbols created myself since unlearning it
>>7395126spacing setting is too high
>>7394576What did you mean by that? Like square boobs? Well this is what came out sorry, and why the goblin? I couldn't draw the ears so i gave up and it's easier to draw a goblin because it's green. It was hard to get the arms and ribs to look right but that's how we learn :)
>>7392952guys? i just started and i'm learning shapes/symbol drawingis pillow in red circle decent for first try good and how do i make it more pillowyi am assuming that i need to learn how to make shadowsignore bed doddle, or no
>>7392952Is it over? AI can now even critique your work.
this one is final and looks soulless af no matter how hard i trybut i really liked this video and this drawing is the only way i can express my feelings. so sad
>>7394981shame, the slime looks well rendered and i love the DQIV's protag design
>>7395165please do some master studies of this anon >>7394471
>>7395189thx
>>7395177I have seen it generate layered files now. Its Joever.
>>7395182I like it anon
If you had to choose one physical art book that can teach you the fundamentals what could you choose. I'm interested to buy Marco Bucci's one (because I like his video).I need something physical so I can interact direcly on him.What would you recommend to someone who would learn the fundamental or a portfolio art book with a tendem with Drawabox ?
>>7395182this is cute! i dont remember seeing you color before so its a nice change of pace!
>>7395177Why would I want artwork critique instead of having crabs seethe at me and post inane vitriolic garbage? AI is fucking useless and soulless again.
>>7394921pyw dumb faggot
>>7395271keys to drawing
>>7395271Didn't read the Marco Bucci one, but I'd trust him. Specially if you want to go the vis dev for animation route.>If you had to choose one physical art book that can teach you the fundamentals what could you chooseFor all the fundies? That'd be hard. Maybe "How to draw comics the Marvel way" but it lacks some things.>portfolio art bookCare to explain? Are you talking about those "The art of" books?
>>7394916noise filter
>>7395311When I say portofolio art book or the art of "book", I meant book like "The art of Spyro reignited trilogy" by Micky Nielson (this is an exemple btw)
>>7395297I have none to post.
>>7395327Oh, got it. Well, that'd change from time to time, just really pick an artist or media that you like and go with it. My favorite right now is "The Art of Yoh Yoshinari - Rough Sketches", for instance.
>>7395329>feel mentally like the worst drawer on the planetdidnt draw anything>learn a little bit of perspectivedidnt draw any perspectivekill yourself
>>7395338I thought you meant a real drawing, I do have pictures of random scribbles and garbage saved if you really wanted to see that.
>>7394921just draw lul what else can we tell you. Especially since you have nothing to post as you said
"Fun" №1267...
>been drawing everyday for months>wake up in the morning, it's fun as fuck and I like what I draw>learn daily too, copying stuff from reference. >just another day>go to work, start drawing in my free time after figure drawing in the morning>mfw it's shit>keeps trying, still shit>"maybe I'm just tired...">get home, do laundry, go sleep>wake up>figure draw session x2>"let's try again..." >still shit >decide to look through my now finished sketchbook>it's ALL shit, with like 1 or two good drawings towards the end all of a sudden>before this, most of my drawings towards the end felt pretty good to drawEither I regressed, my eye got better, or picking up figure drawing again somehow made me worse.
>>7395359How long have you been doing this now?
>>7395362three and a half years obv
>>7395362About five months
>>7394981I gave it a shot using a complementary type of color scheme. your drawing is great btw.
>>7395376A couple more years and you'll get there. Just keep grinding.
>>7395376>five monthsmaybe its not too late for me
Is it better to copy models or artists you like? I feel like seeing how someone else drew something gives me a better idea of how to translate it from real life to the drawing.
>>7395376bro you need to do at least 1 project a month. Not even crabbing fundies will burn you out and the next time you will be drawing is 6 months from now.
>>7395397no, it's better to copy models or artists i like, until you've developed refined taste like me.
I've grown more confident in my fucked up proportions, telling myself "it's my style", it's "Egon Schielean".That's why I regressed. For the rest of december I shall forbid myself to draw elongated anatomy. And I pledge to finally study the head.
>>7395359One must imagine begyphus to be happy.
Can I get some critique on this? I'm not used to drawing chibi characters like this. I usually stick to chibi characters for pixel art and use more realistic proportions for digital art.
>>7395418looks cute, hair needs fewer sharp corners/more floofiness
>>7395361Something probably clicked for you, and now you're cursed with the knowledge that all your art before that sucked.
>>7395418hair's too angular in some placesand the fused little finger makes me ask for prompts
>>7395423Wouldn't making the corners less sharp look weird? I tried with a few point and the less rounded ends make it look off.>>7395439Does the hand look better like this?
>>7395418Why post AI shit as if you drew it yourself?
>>7395418Chibi is a cheat code. If you want engagement take a popular character like Pomni (cough new episode dropping in 5 days cough) and make them chibi. It's much simpler and easier than normal digital art and farms engagement because cute but you will find your audience skewing towards those that like cute things.
>these niggers cant recognize obvious ai slop
>>7395469
>>7395469i've seen so many tards actually try to copy aislop style that i simply can't be bothered to care to think
>>7395466I'd rather draw pomni with big boobs, though. Maybe chibi with big boobs will be an even bigger cheat.
I've used Loomis for a month nowI'm having a lot of funNow I'll try Hampton
>>7395481Is it a genre? OppaiChibi? If it isn't i guess you're the pioneer
>>7395311>the vis devThe what now?
>>7395484you forgot to apply loomis on this
>>7395484>I've used Loomis for a month nowI'm assuming you mean as toilet paper based on what you posted
>>7395489>>7395492honestly I've only applied it to the head so farWith the body I'm still struggling
>>7395489>>7395492also, I started really bad so, even if just a little, I think I am improving
I Just wish I could stop worrying and enjoy the journey, is it too much to ask?
>>7392964Instantly recognized it was Miranda, you did a great job
>>7395486It's basically concept artist, but that title is more used for games, animation prefers visual development. It's more of a umbrella term tho. Pic related is a color key vis dev.
Thoughts on outlining the shadow areas?It looks quite nice when I'm hatching.
Should I give up on figure drawing and just read Keys? My goal was to fill up a whole notebook with gestures after having restarted Vilppu's lecture course, but it's very soul crushing and I feel like I've not really gotten any better. I never really did fundamentals that much and feel like I don't really know HOW to draw. Figures probably wasn't a good starting point.
>>7395550With gesture you can easily use it as an 5-30 min exercise everyday and slowly fill your notebook, you can study other stuff with the rest of your time.
>>7395552That's a good point. I guess I'll do Keys, too, then return to Master Vilppu when I'm more powerful.Do my gestures at least look ok?
>At the end of 2024 and people are still falling for the Keys meme
>>7395562?
>>7395562What should I read instead?
>>7395578keys
I want to draw cute and sexy anime girls but I know nothing about drawing. How should I start?>inb4 check the OPYou guys are arguing over what's good, so I want to hear what you all think is good and what's shit for a total beginner like me. I do have an Ugee drawing tablet from when I tried drawing years ago (barely tried drawing then cause I'm lazy)
>>7395582Also, I'm a zoomer so I don't know how to torrent
>>7393221>>7395182Blog?
>>7395582>>7395579
>>7395586But >>7395562 says its useless
>>7395587he's locked, it happens.
>>7395577>>7395578Dynamic SketchingGurney and Bucci for color and paintingVilppu/Huston/Proko/Hampton for figure stuffLoomis is the goat when it comes to construction for the headNorling for perspective (Erik Olson's course if you really want to go down the rabbit hole for perspective)but the most important thing is to do master studies (aka try to copy artwork you like)>>7395587he's trolling
>>7395589trolls trolling trolls
>>7395582Check MikerMegaMega on Youtube to learn about construction.Start copying your favorite artists.
>>7395596Care to share the construction layer for this drawing, anon-san?
>>7395599you'll have to ask the original nipponese artist on pixiv.
モシモシプロムツスデス?
>>7395596Are you such a subhuman that you cant see the difference between my study and the original artwork?
>>7395598Thanks, a lot less daunting when you put it like that>>7395589Thanks, I'll try and find that. An online course comes up when I search Dynamic Sketching, is that it?
>>7395605No, the differences are very obvious, why do you ask?
>>7395607>>7395598hide-channel isn't westoid so it's better for actual anime construction
>>7395608Well you're calling me a troll for suggesting something else than Keys to Sucking (a favorite of Pawell btw)Care to post your work?
>>7395601Oh, assumed anon was the artist. Why would you post someone else's art on this thread without stating it's not your own?
What're you looking at?
>>7395617at a girl with a cranium too small
I dont know.. Either she is leaning backwards for some reason or i fucked up her spine.
>>7395622the placement of the head on the neck is fucked the most
>>7395623i see it now. Looks like it grows down from the chin .
>>7395608>*crickets*every time.
>>7395611>>7395627was pulling something up from the archives https://warosu.org/ic/thread/6976501#p7013951
>>7395555>I guess I'll do Keys, too, then return to Master Vilppu when I'm more powerful.He's got some gesture practice on NMA's youtube if you want to draw along him. Ngl, those videos helped me more than any other on gesture lol>Do my gestures at least look ok?On the top one: you're too focused on the face construction and hair, keep it simple, connect it to the body, don't do the cross contour thingy until the contour gesture reads well.On the bottom on: Don't do clothed figures on your first gestures. They will just confuse you. That said, the cloth is better than your gesture.
>>7395630Still doesnt change the fact that Keys is shit
>>7395550i recognize these refs and god, i hate how the figure drawing infrastructure is so poorly made that most of /beg/s scribble the same poorly selected ref packs
>>7395639It's got the essential vitamins and minerals that a growing /beg/ needs. If somebody doesn't have a rough handle on just looking at stuff and trying to sketch it, something like vilppu is a pipe dream.
>>7395644quickposes is mint. It's one of the only things that connects many modern artists.
>>7395637>until the contour gesture reads wellWhat exactly do you mean? If you don't do cross contours, it'll just end up looking like a stick figure.>Don't do clothed figures on your first gestures. They will just confuse you.That's understandable. Vilppu has said in his demonstrations that clothes can help because they naturally create contouring on the body, which I do find very helpful, though I do tend to skip overly clothed figures, like the ones in robes.>>7395644I used sketchdaily. I don't know where else to really get models without downloading a shitload of packs, which I don't have the space for.
>>7395646>It's got the essential vitamins and minerals that a growing /beg/ needsi just watched all the clickbaity proko vids instead while drawing along and not a single soul that had seen my scribbles told me to pick such vague books (i did it anyway with keys, but only to get disappointed and go back to working on fundies)
People keep saying itt that Keys is shit, but they never say WHY. What about it is actually bad?
>>7395650>keys>vagueIt opens with a literal play by play of how to manage your eyes and inner voice.
>400 replies>page 5>no new breadI miss when we had 2 threads a day
>>7395655Literally the most retard-proof drawing book on the market. Getting intellectually filtered by KtD isn't a good sign.
>>7395655What is they key's book called and what's his full name
>>7395666Satan demands constant thread churn, to nobody's surprise.
Jesus. Fucking. CHRIST
>>7395678Forgot pic
>>7395652They also say Pawell is shit despite the fact he actually did improve. I will forever respect pawell over these nodraws
>>7395676keys to drawing bert dodson
Hello beg, more figgies. Also new pencil. Holy moly using properly sized pencil after weeks of using that stub feels SO NICE. Also thanks to all my supporters, we are all gonna make it!>>7395680rotating boxes is no joke, especially if you go raw and dont use underdrawings like you did>>7395622whenever in doubt, use reference. your pose is basic bitch, you should find ref on yandex in like 10 seconds: standing woman>>7395562you are obviously INT or maybe PRO, but do pray tell, why would you shit on keys to drawing?>>7395550i mean the gesture is okay and you even feel the form so its not like you are wasting time. But without the other fundies, how will you ever turn your gestures into a complete drawing?>>7395504less thinking, more drawing. simple as
>>7395649>If you don't do cross contours, it'll just end up looking like a stick figure.While I really disagree with this, I meant to focus on the gesture itself, not the form, and draw those cross contours after you got most of the gesture in place.To go further, the cross contours Vilppu draws are just a quick and intuitive way to "feel the form". No rules, anon, just tools. Not saying you should stop drawing them, just don't go saying they are necessary.>about figure drawing sitesThere is quick poses, line of action and adorka stock.There is also GES draw party and NMA on youtube.
>>7395726Take the Mechanical pencil pill
TOPCAT's brain, sorry it's another hanna barbera study.
another show that technically takes place in the 1960's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w70RQLtdVeUFOX never released Life With Louie physically did they?
>>7395516Concept Art and Vis Dev are two different things, both exist at game and animation studios.Vis Dev is responsible for creating the overall style, it's like a director-lite role. Concept artists, design the production assets within that style.
>>7395652My beef with it is that he is unapologetic copyfag. Copyfagy is a staple of academic art, but I guess I'm an impressionist or something and have little appreciation of it. Some could say it is just a springboard to start looking at things differently, but the moment you want to draw your own chibi bunny you have to throw away 100% of his teaching. Everything is aimed at removing any agency. There is already little sense in any of this and without human agency and intent, what is even a pointDidn't read the book by the way.
>>7395856>Didn't read the book by the way.yeah obv
what is the most detailed and prebeg friendly constructive drawing book/course
>>7395906>Learning to draw from a bookDon't fall for this meme, it's not the 60's anymore. Go to youtube and watch a course or tutorial on whatever you want to draw.
>>7395917>a course or tutorial on whatever you want to draw.i don't like the idea of going through dozens of cringeworthy clickbaits...
>>7395950read a book then
>>7395906Brent Eviston's book and video course + free youtube videos. Most retard proof art instruction I've ever seen. If he can't help you then no one can.
>>7395906How to Draw by Robertsonif you're too low iq/zoomer for it, this is the youtube versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-KzNu9Twg0&list=PL7xvYrkzD7N9UUEn_o15wrXZ1Z6lM9t0S
>>7395426I guess. Not sure, maybe I'm just having an off day, but everything I draw looks substantially crappier. Need to put in more time again if my knowledge really increased, I guess. Most of these are referenced. I did a lot today, but I'm having trouble drawing for the sake of it, which is why I'm using random references on quickposes, but nothing feels good to draw.
>>7395779>>7395781>>7395787>>7395795>>7395798These are excellent. They bring me back to watching Boomerang back when it was good; makes me smile.
doodles from past few hours
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 08: Tried to use one reference and just copy, but I don't like how she came out. I feel like trying to draw bigger makes me end up making her ugly and she came out with a giraffe neck, but I couldn't figure out how to match the reference without it.
Day 2 of owning a drawing tablet and drawing with it, I made this for my friend. I hate it, can I please get critique?
>>7396109for context I don't want to paint/color anything until I'm actually good at line art but because I was making something for a friend I had to atleast try to color it.
>>7396112also im not a furry, I want to draw humans
I like to think I am learning from the videos.Is her right eye too far? Want to be sure the face isnt too megafucked before sketching over it again
>>7396196what videos?
>>7396105Make a trace on the side and see for yourself why you didn't match the reference.
gamer grill reacts to my fanarthttps://youtu.be/Luvd6RxeVvM?t=934maybe you can find a small streamer for youself and get some dopamine out of the reaction /ic/
>>7393168>>7393499>>7393886>>7395386>>7395512
>>7396276who inspires you to draw in this unappealing style?
>>7393134Shapes need to overlap to create depth. Focus on that.
>>7395359>>7395376kill yourself >>7378044
>>7396373have fun with your weirdly misshappen omelette toppings
>>7395583Smartphones and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>7396091Oh duly obliged, and glad to hear you're smiling, hopefully it contains enough electric shocks to stimulate those types of responses.
>>7396231absolutely pathetic desu
>>7396231Never post anything "official" or too public as a /beg/. It will become embarrassing as you get better. I stumbled across some rule 34 smut that I had drawn years ago and now I wish I could redo or delete the pictures from the internet.
>>7396399>>7396404y her reaction was wholesome and made me happy and i wanted to share it
>>7396418It's your choice but I'm just warning you that you will probably become more self-critical as you become better and the validation from who people who can't even draw is pretty fleeting. At least for me.
>>7396427aren't most people making art for people who can't draw? lol
>>7396436Normies will be impressed by anything. That applies to almost any hobby or sport. The goal should be to improve and have fun.
>>7396437never said the contrarybut sticking to this hellhole is not healthy either
>>7396109asking for critique again
>>7396409>>7396409
>>7393119You can't rotate your head more than 90 degrees (meaning you can't look behind, but only towards your either of your shoulders if you get what I mean). Try rotating her torso as well.
