If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7392952
probably not worth sharing, but i drew a full scene for the first time,, i think i want to try some different perspectives next and add some actual characters from the binding of isaac instead of just isaac 14 times ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i’m not upset with the attempt
>>7396432How can we tell if you delete the post?
>>7396415Let people roll for a place in that, you or that person draws in their isaac version of something and after its done it's the next thread OP image.
>>7396442
how the fuck do i into colouring, i've only ever done pen/pencil doodles before moving to digital>>7396453kino
Just double checkingNo problem right, guys?
>>7396472Can anyone give me a redline for the face of the bottom girl?I feel like something is wrong but I am too /beg/ to figure it out
Probably one of the few things I enjoyed drawing yesterday. I dunno, I just feel very creatively bankrupt and nothing still feels good, that said, this was a good change and I had some fun doing it.
>>7396415>>7396444ok bet. ill be out for a couple hours, but roll for which isaac ill draw your OC or character of choice to be.
>>7396444wait holy shit, nice trips get
>>7396494lmfao alright make the middle guy the ceo killer and the window guy miku. I can draw them in digital to get it started while ur out
>>7396409New bread? Just a master study this time, I think it's Milt Kahl.
Remind myself to buy HB leads tomorrow. Buy HB leads tomorrow.
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>>7396494>>7396512
>>7396472>>7396481This is what happens when you get so cocky at the beginning and traced blindly instead of actually learning to draw.Now cry and sleep in the grave you dug.
>>7396539You've been crabbing me for a while now, dudeGive me a break.I did not even trace it to start with
>>7396515>Milt Kahlfukken legendhttps://youtu.be/o4jlZoBGQeE?feature=shared
I think I got a bodytype I wanted
>>7396550Old bastard did hands, expressions and gestures like it was nothing. And those animals? Holy shit.
>>7396554You can get it if you applied yourself.(๏人 ๏)
>>7396605This is like a horse shapeshifted into human form but didn't quite get it right
>>7396605anon pls study proprotion and face constructionbooba
>>7396611Is the jawline too exaggerated or something
>>7396472oh hey its that yurifag that never uses line weight, please vary line weight cause i like everything else about your pieces
>>7396457fellow architect>>7396622NTA but its waaaaaaaayyy more then that, the most obvious thing to me is the jaw going way too far back which gives the face a bunch of weird space and has the ears looking out of place
Trying out some /asg/. Will have to make few more copies.
>>7396472I drew over it and variedf lien width , if you incorporated this into your works it will bring out your composition evene more.also watch how the hair is situated to create a natural look to your characters
>>7396628I see what you mean when you mention the ear. Thanks anon, I'll sort that shit out
>>7396643That makes sense. Shit. No wonder the scalp is off.>line weightYeah, I still can't figure it out properly.
>>7396643Thanks again, yo.Dodged a bullet on that one.
>>7396691No bitches? Hard to judge really cus it looks really unfinished but the top of the head looks overly large and bulbous
>>7396633Keep going until you can make those long strokes in one go
>>7396698nips don't do that so why should you?
cringe experiments
>>7396702What do you like about it?
"Fun" №1268
>>7396702Post your blog so I can see more of your cringe experiments <3
>>7396691
>>7396696Reduced size a little, though if it's a little big (within the wiggle room of acceptable) it's alright I figure. Loosely reffed from The Cable Guy poster
>>7396704I dont know, must be something where you going with this
>>7396702post higher res
>>7396721It's an experiment what did you learn from the experiment that you want to take into your drawing? What would you do differently next time?
>>7396415Charming>>7396442Focus on figure drawing with poses/proportions>>7396444Fun idea
>>7396472Stop using stabilizers, turn it off or set to 1>>7396453Perspective is pretty good, I'd focus on portraits/heads>>7396457Buy highlighters/marks and color over your linework >>7396477Ambitious, try to focus on smaller parts and study values/shading. Look up chiaroscuro>>7396484I would try more figure drawings and focus on proportions, keep it up>>7396515Hand on the left needs work, but nice aurora it's a funny image but the advice is true>>7396528bro does not care about getting shot at all>>7396531lol>>7396554ew
>>7396605Satoru.. is that you?>>7396611The way you draw faces feels about 5 levels above the way you draw hands>>7396633asg is good for studying specific styles but you should draw from life to get better fundamentals>>7396643Your lines feels less lifeless and way better than the original but man.. I don't think your line weight did much>>7396691Try an exercise where you draw one continuous line to avoid using multiple lines where one would suffices.>>7396697You've gotta be kidding..>>7396702Best in the thread, stop humble bragging>>7396715My bad I was unfamiliar with your game>>7396716Lookup the muscles in the collar/neck/shoulder area and redraw those once or twice, also study photo's of human feet in proportion to the leg
>>7396409>>7396409Starting digital painting, using photoshop.How do I render / blend colors? I get the concept and some of the theory, but struggle on knowing what to do in photoshop itself.Right now I've just been putting down two colors, and then spamming the smudge tool. Any tips / good resources?
>>7396817Use the smudge tool, but raise the spacing, and give it a bit of scattering.
>>7396831Gotcha, any rec on numbers for them?And is it just spamming the smudge tools, or are there better methods?
Started using a textured brush for line art, and holy shit, it makes it look so much better
just some sketches, trying to draw a lot today to compensate because I've been very lazy lately
>>7396836Just get a feel for it. Turning those two options on together makes it feel like an entirely different tool.I like to use a pretty small brush to blend things together in a kind of hatching pattern and use the blur tool to smooth it out if needed. But just play around with it and find something you like. Basically everyone does it differently, there isn't really a best way.
>>7396844sometimes I don't know what to do, I need like a roadmap or a schedule, the problem with trying to learn all by yourself is you don't know where to start even, I think I'm going to focus on anatomy for the time being
>>7396848
>>7396848Draw something to completion, then you'll know what you're missing.
>>7396849
>>7396848>sometimes I don't know what to domore than a roadmap you need a goalwhy do you draw? what do you hope to accomplish?once you have a goal, the road becomes obvious
>>7396852>once you have a goal, the road becomes obviousgood call, I think I want to draw like a short comic or manga>>7396850yeah I'll try this, thanks
>>7396769>Hand on the left needs work, but nice aurora it's a funny image but the advice is trueYep, I am really using those to see if I can get on an ok level with minimal revisions. And I noticied that my hands are only good after 10 redraws, so I am trying to fix that.>>7396611The head shape in ok but that ear needs work on simplification.>>7396848>I need like a roadmap or a scheduleIME, best way to do something like that is to have a goal and planning what you'll learn towards it, with enough time to try stuff out.
>>7396855>I think I want to draw like a short comic or mangathen instead of learning anatomy, just make a short comicyour anatomy skill is probably not the bottleneck (yet) for making a compelling comic; you need to do the thing to discover your weak spots
So please correct me if I'm wrong, but typically people use>No stabilizer for sketch>Stabilizer for lineartright??
>>7396878I use it for both
>>7396878I just don't use them anymore but whatever works for you anon>Stabilizer for lineartthat makes sense I guess if you are going for super perfect manga lineart but for long strokes mostly
>draw>looks like shit >keep going cause i cant just give up every time>finished piece looks like shit>repeat ad infinitum
Sup beg, i have no talent yet i must draw figgies. AAAAAAAAAA>>7396878in my beg opinion you dont need stabilizer at all, unless you need TURBO SMOOTH curves and then you are better off using vector graphics>>7396851please give me your figgie gains, i need them>>7396633nice booba>>7396605keys to drawing
>>739688690% of beginner artists give up right before their drawing is about to not look like shit
>>7396851cute girls
>>7396409Do the drawings being on different letters mean anything?
>>7396898>Drawing doesn't look like shit>come back a few days later>looks like shit>mfw
tips on drawing heads that don't look like shit? yes I'm going for animu style
How do you not get demoralized when everything you make turns out to be shit?
>>7396905Can you deduce WHY it looks like shit? Is there something that is blaring obvious that you can fix? If it all looks like shit why not try it again? Some of my best crap work was made after I failed about 3 times then finally took the time to actually analyze what I was doing wrong and what the desired outcome I wanted. Chances are it's gonna take like 2hrs to make a new one anyway and it'll be easier because you know where you're going
>>7396838Just finished adding flat colors, gonna move onto shading now
>>7396911Lovely Android.
>>7396905the /pol/ jokes about propagandists not wanting you to believe your lying eyes hit a lot different after drawing
>>7396817watch some CtrlPainthttps://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/brush-technique-hard-and-softhttps://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/smudge-tool-for-blendinghttps://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt1https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt2https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/best-blending-tools-pt3
draw this fentanyl addict
>>7396919Thank you, these are what I need. Any other painting and dig painting recs would be great.
Can I get some critique? I think I suck ass at coloring and blending
>>7396932I think you suck dick at having good taste but that being said your biggest problem is color theory. Seek darker values, create bigger contrasts and add some proper highlights.
>>7396932the harshest and most useful critique is to put your art side by side with your goal, and see all the ways you're lacking in comparisonidk what your goal is, just recreate pic related with your ideal
Is it over? I am still a vrigin at 24 and my tablet is broke so I must scribble on my phone. Should I kms?
I hate drawing lips and the reference girl looks like a clown with makeup but I want to get good because good lips are hot
>>7396887any feedback to have here?
coloring a doodle
>>7396956It's a bit hard to give feedback for simple doodle stylisations but I think her left foot could be a lot better. Her knee is also way too low so her calf looks really short, imagine her trying to practice squats with them and you'll see how unnaturally short they look. Then again it's a stylistic thing so maybe it's not as big a deal
>>7396960thank you
>>7396905>And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music
>>7396444>>7396494>>7396512OH GOD OH FUCK HES GOING FOR YOTSUBAroll to stop him (or help him?)
>>7396939 What's the best way for a low-IQ monkey (me) to learn color theory? >>7396945 Ouch, yeah, I can see where I could improve. There are a lot of areas, especially the hair and eyes.
>>7396922>white people be like>>7396906just copy anime heads you likebut be sure to use construction >>7396907imagine yourself as Sisyphus and the boulder is your shitty artYou must draw shit then start over again from nothing over and over
not sure if I'm getting the head shape right
>>7396990On the left, we're looking down at the subject, but yours gives and impression of looking up at him.
>>7396932Tried to improve it as best as I could, but it still looks like crap. I’ll study color theory like the other anon suggested and apply it to my next piece.
>>7397004remember to hue shift when picking shadows
>>7397004dont shade her with airbursh like that try using lasso tool/ cell shaing like clothes look decent then everything else is soft airbrushyi'll try painting over to help u in a bit
>>7396907No one ever goes proYou just draw a little less shitty each time.Speaking of which another hatching attempt after reading some material and studying beserk.
>>7397007You realize that ref has nothing to do with shadow colors, right?
>>7396907laugh it off
>>7397008How do I shade with the lasso tool? I've never heard of it.Also, if you paint over it, could you explain your reasons for where you painted over it? Thanks!
>>7397017sure thing, lasso tool shaidng involves selecting certain parts then using air brush delibrately/or using gradient tool, no problem i'll help u out anon.
>>7397022This too is useful to me. I don't know shot about digital art.
>>7396996oh okay I need to narrow the body more as it goes down
>>7397004I don't know if you ever shade with gray but if you do its bad practice cause it leads to a muddy look.So because the shading was so light on the hair I decided to define the shadows more, first I overpainted the hair, I used the lasso to carve out the shadows at the base of the bangs, focus on the shape of the ahir, then I use blend to blend some edges , I mainly used a watercolor textured brush to overpaint while touching up areas which we primarily airburshed to have a harder edge to it.
probably not how girl works
>>7397041She looks so pretty with the changes you made!!I'll try applying these tips to my next drawing, i'll start working on it now. Seeing the touches you added gave me so much inspiration to keep drawing more :3 Thank you 'nonie
>>7396968roll
>>7397050Draw gigachad
>>7396886Now you're getting it. What's important is that you don't quit; breaks are fine though. You should PYW because sometimes other people can notice and point out flaws you missed.
>>7396952Top left is breddy gud for a phone scribbleKeep it up
>>7396886>>7397055Post the wrong image
>>7397041The foreground elements need way darker values. The main way to center the focus on a charater in back lighting is to use generous highlights around the silhouette, roughly like picrel
Happy holidays. (pic not mine)
>>7396409just playing with colors...
>>7396968>>7397051someone that’s better than me at drawing can try to do it, but here’s my attempt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>7397055>>7397058Can i get crit on this then?Artistic suffering just sucks, i want to be good already
>>7396409backtopus
>>7396409Quick sketch before sleep.
>>7396895is that my nigga GOJO??
>>7397120 Meant to reply to this anon instead. For the other anon I like the figgy in the top left and bottom right!>>7396605
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>>7396911My based wife. Thanks for sharing.
could i get some advice on these hand studies? Theyre all 1-2 mins each, the right one is 5 minutes. im really struggling with gving them volume; despite simplifying the hands into simple shapes. the whole doesnt look very cohesive either, it looks jank, and they usually lack the elegance and lightness of the pictures i base them off of.Any advice on how to fix those problems? Or types of exercices to practice etc...Also, I'd rather focus on suggesting volume solely through line, I'm not interested in adding shading/rendering them.
>>7397103My grey pen is failing me at the worst possible time. I think I need to get into water colors or something for big areas
>>7396702
arcane doodles and an attempt to paint like it in another subject
>>7396838I want to say that the face looks very cute at least anon. I like it.
>>7397004So, two major issues:A. Your shadows aren't dark enough for the style you're going for. You really need the range if you want that rendered look. Your shadows are at ~70% lightness, whereas they really need to be around 40%.B. You're shading with a color too close to gray. Even in a gray room with white lighting, subsurface scattering in meat, cloth, hair, or anything else even slightly transparent gives them a colored shadow. As does the reflected light coming off those things. And you have to vary the color of the shadows depending on the material, can't just set it all to purple and call it a day. That just makes the whole thing look both purple AND gray. I know that's a bit overwhelming. You can just make the fleshy bits a bit more red/orange. Anything else give it a bit of it's own color or the color of the room.
I really need to practice construction boxes and I use krita, is there a resource to find pictures I can practice construction over?
>>7397128Watercolor papers are small and pricey. Just get mixed media paper with 300 gsm
>>7397131based Arcane bro
>>7397136Thanks 'nonie>>7397137As you said, it's overwhelming all this info. I'm trying to take all the advice the other anons gave and make it work for me, but it's so hard. I try coloring based on what they said, and it looks so bad. I'll give what you said a try as well.
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 09: Tried to use one reference and go for a side angle. It looks off, but at the same time still I feel like this might be one of my best ones. couldn't quite get the hair right though
uh, is it really necessary? i don't want to go through another drawabox
Some days it's pretty hard to not be crushed under the weight of how bad I am at drawing stillWell, not bad but still deep in /beg/ tier
Day 3 of owning a drawing tablet and trying to learn to draw. Am I practicing construction correctly? How does this look?
I'm gonna try to do something other than endlessly practice for everyday of this week (Monday to Friday). Here is what I did today. I really struggle with the Loomis heads and I have no idea why.
>>7397166This isnt your first day drawing, fag
>>7397170its my 3rd
>>7397166Looks fine. I'd recommend using boxes for the limbs as well, though. The whole point is to make the perspective unambiguous, which cylinders don't really help with.
>>7397174Ill give it a shot
>>7396817Today's practice.Any crit?
>>7397157Using the references try to understand why it looks bad and then try to correct it.
>>7397174Like this? Also is it bad I'm doing more dynamicposes instead of starting with simpler stuff?
>>7397192Yep, looks fine. And yeah, probably. It's clear you're not really sure what shape the boxes are supposed to be, it's best not to confuse yourself by making them twist and turn in weird directions.
>>7397196I'm taking lots of mental notes as I go. Like, I'd change the torso box a bit and also not be so scared to construct within the joint circles to plug up those gaps by the joints. Head box took a lot of tries.
i just finish this doodle today
>>7397166Just for an advice, look up how the pelvis connects to the body and how the legs are connected to it. What are you trying to represent with the second box? If you're trying to represent the hips with a box then your placement is a bit off. A good advice that works for me is looking for easy landmarks in the body to help place construction a bit easier. A couple good landmarks are the collarbones, ribs and iliac crest(the bones from the hip that stick out.) PRetty sure Proko in youtube has super easy to follow up tutorials about the torso and hips and how to find landmarks/simplify.
>>7396409Is there a course or book that focuses on digital painting for beginners. And I do mean painting, not drawing, lineart or sketching.
>>7397220maybe ctrl paint free videos could be a starting point, just skip the drawing playlists
how do you feel about the way morpho draws faces?
>>7397224He's skilled and demonstrates a lot of useful things. Unfortunately, he uses terrible reference for most of them and he doesn't idealize the proportions or features. That makes a lot of his drawings look ugly and like dis-proportioned aliens. I wouldn't recommend copying them unless your skills a good enough to notice this and not ingrain these ugly people into your work. Pic related is one of the few normal looking ones.
>>7397256Don't blur the high contrast areas. You need a mixture of sharp and soft edges (and preferably lost edges) to make an interesting image
>>7397256go to town on the darks and lights more, you don't have any highlights and most of your darks need to be way darker
>>7397256Where do you get the images you use for the studies? id like to do one as well.
>>7397267Pinterest
>>7397177you need darker values to create high contrast areas
>>7397277Alright, thank you.
>>7396973>>white people be likeat least he can breathe
>Want to give some compliments and tips to a newbie I know irl>Have literally 0 good things to say about his drawing>Don't want to be condescending and just give him advice out of nowhereWhat do lads.
>>7396697>>7397256
>>7397288Tell him it sucks
>>7397288Just say you draw too and strike a conversation?It's not that hard anon
>>7396706>still wasting time with pointless rushed warmupskill yourself
>>7397298>dude just draw retarded shit without any practice!!!NGMI
>>7397290Have you seen the human body? The clavicle is the nexus of the upper torso and it's not there. not to mention other things. Try to have a solid drawing before going into color it makes the entire process way easier. The more steps you skip the harder it gets.Think of it as a sudoku puzzle; If you guess numbers in the beginning you'll think you're making progress ,later on you'll see most of that 'Progress' you've done has to be undone because it doesn't fit.
>>7397137>>7397123>>7397063>>7397041>>7397004>>7396932>>7396911Heh, i like when a drawing gets analyzed by people in these threads and starts taking shape in a good way.
>>7397303>just draw retarded shit without any practice!!!The retarded shit IS the practice. Find out what holes you have. What you're doing is pussy footing around the real work. You're being really timid while you should be exploring and making mistakes. The circles and squares can be a 15-30 min warm up. You're cutting a lawn with a pair of scissors while you could be using a lawn mower.
Ill be honest I didn't know what to do with her arm in the background
I need advice, constructive opinions. I've been drawing for years just as a hobby, nothing serious, but I'm noticing something stagnant, probably more than proportions, but in composition maybe? They are just models that I would like to take to something more detailed like for example acrylics and other mixed materials but well applied
>>7396409>no matter what I can't seem to get the jaw line and eyes correct on my facesI genuinely do not understand why my brain can't process how to do it correctly, but every time I try to do a face it has to go through 50 revisions before it turns out decentpic rel is how my faces tend to come out before I end up having to spend an hour figuring out how to fix itcan anyone give me some sort of strong advice for the jaw and eyes?
>>7397387https://imgur.com/gallery/teal-line-guy-from-ic-8eHzD
>>7397387asians grind 500 floating loomis heads everyday.westoids give up not even halfway through their sole and only attempt of the week before he goes back to jewish distractions.
Tried to apply the stuff the anons told me on this drawing, hopefully I did some stuff right
Help me out guys, got sent here by the powerlevel thread. I know her right foot is too tiny, i just really wanted to fit toes on the page.
>>7396528nigga from cruelty squad?
>>7397010The hatching looks better but it's still off. Lines are too thick and you're starting from the middle of the object not the edges. Also theres no reflection on the armor. Pic related from my Berserk study, notice the armor around the neck and the arm (granted my line weight was off in this study, ideally the lines would be thinner)
>>7397232How about morpho's other books? Anything I should avoid?
>>7397427Good job! Looks nice.
>>7396886its taken me a very long time to realize art is just process, the beginning looks like shit no matter who you are.https://x.com/kw4gwo/status/1864570618777358528I would've quit at the 3second mark.
>>7397427I added a bit more details onto her, not sure what to do with the skirt
>>7397438Honestly anon you’re fine just finish something. Do some lineart in pen
Alright im still trying to figure out rendering. Does this look like a body stocking? What's good what's bad?
>>7397523>what's badthe drawing (proportions and form)
Not much done but at least i am getting better at eyeballing things and not distorting everything.
>>7397519sovl
>>7397492I'll take this in consideration and try again.How would you do dull plating? I don't want it super reflective feeling. I want it to feel worn an somewhat soot covered. The character strikes me as an assassin type. I feel like his armor would be matte with soot to keep light from reflecting. The other guy is definitely shiny so it's a useful example still. Just not what I want for the crow.Additionally should all lines come from the edge? Because I definitely start from the edge but some lines I dont. Even in yours some look like the don't go or come from the edge. How do I utilize lines like that? Ill copy more pages but I'd also like you insight.
>>7397519Hi anon its me again. I like it that your able to work on that which was pointed out!Here I did some overpainting mainly to the hair at where the higlight was and shadow meetI was going to suggest you shade the shoudler baldes but I see you ahve done that here.
>>7397401Where is the image from?
>>7397492Oh also I don't necessarily want to copy or emulated berserk exactly. I'm looking more to find my own style. I'm just inspired by the deep blacks and textured look of berserk
> >7397554 I'm not sure if it's noticeable, but I tried to follow your edits on the hair and shadows. I really liked the shading style I used here. I know it’s subtle, but I think it looks really pretty. I also colored the lineart, and I think it helps her fit into the scene better because of it! Thanks again for the help, 'nonie! :)
>>7397427>>7397519>>7397554>>7397570This looks old school. Like something from the old internet. Not a criticism.
today's eye practice
>>7397192your boxes are misplaced. head box should be back further because the head is back. the middle line for your chest box isnt actually where the middle of the ref is. your hip box is placed too high. place it lower so it matches up with where the pelvis is. hips connect to legs at the widest-ish part.
>>7397550It would work so much better if I had a clip file to work with lol I'm trying to redo it as I would do it but it takes so long just to remove your hatching. Give me some time
>>7397574This is the nicest thing someone told me this month, thank you
>>7396409the bottom right gave me santalahti flashbacks
>>7394480done
>>7397557https://x.com/simon_7617118/mediahe used to come often to ic to give quality redlines
>There was a door left ajar in the barracks room next to her, She wanted to see what's happening insideI wanted to draw her fully again. How does she look?
>>7397601Bitch has got no hips
>>7397601Door stuck paizuri
>>7397603She doesnt?
>>7397612Nope, built like a rectangle.
reposting cause i made some changescan i get some crit mainly on the shading? I've been studying value and color theory since im lacking in that department
>>7397614Ah I see what u mean
>>7397583Does this help you?
>>7397597i didnt know you drew anything besides Meowscarada desuanyway i think this is cool, i like the bleeding effect at the top
Been drawing in pen-only a lot more
>>7397603Her hips are behind the door frame. So who knows
>>7397550>>7397558I'd probably use tones and less hatching in that case but I usually make manga so it might not be the thing you're looking for.I recorded my process on the hatching, done very lightly but you can increase the amount of shading by the amount of hatching you do (also see the links I gave you in the older thread)https://youtu.be/QujXSHLmOZA>>7397621It does, kek, but it's a little late now. i used the one from previous thread and painted over it
>>7397601i want to draw lewd art of her
>>7397597Thank you, Gardevoir is my second wife inshallah
>>7397629>>7397624
>>7397628she is a good girl
>>7397603Don't be mean to her.>>7397605Stop
>>7397627I read the links. I have them saved. I just need more practice. Obviously.I'll erase and try again. Thinner lines. More plentiful where I want it really dark. Throw some more tones in there. I did the red to pop for fun. But maybe I do the armor a dull grey.
>>7397637Godspeed anonHatching is hard to learn (I'm still far from getting gud at it) but it pays off, it instantly levels up your creations. Some guy in MMG is super skilled, his hatching looks great. >>7394433
The "fun" continues...
>>7396409ok guys i am very new and i didn't practice much but so far i am studying (and by studying i mean actually drawing)>Gesture Drawing>symbol Drawing>perspective>simple shapes, spheres, triangles etc (i start with these every time for like 5 mins as warmup)what now? anatomy? proportions? i have problems with that last onei also trace some things when i have no idea what to do just to train my hand to draw linesalso i just found a set of picrel, will they be good as simple warmup exercise ? it's all sonic anatomy stuff
>>7397615is she supposed to be covered in fur? that's what the lighting is trying to tell
>>7397640Yeah I like that. That's the other style I want. Hatching that keeps a sense of bright. That anon is cool. There's also an anon in oc threads i like a lot. They've posted a few pieces that are great.>>7396281I hope you're around when I post again. Very insightful.
>>7397387>but every time I try to do a face it has to go through 50 revisions before it turns out decentlook at japanese artists' workflow with itbefore the lineart, they either do a scribble sketch on the difficult lines, or just do basically 5 straight lines for the whole jaw
Hello beg, more figgies.>>7397625typically when drawers say pen they mean something like ink. You used ballpoint which more akin to pencil in how it can vary the line width and value. nice jew>>7397615you want to research what is blending or smudging tool and use keybind shortcuts to increase or decrease line thickness so you dont get carpal tunel from billion strokes just to light up her belly. In krita you just hold ctrl+alt and then moving left right while drawing increases or decreases the line thickness>>7397361idk, seems fine to me. if you want to progress as drawer, at some point making single pics doesnt cut it anymore. the audience craves story telling, so comics, animation or making art for vidia comes to mind>>7397288when i dont have anything positive to say, i just redirect them to keys to drawing
>>7397601How did you reach this level in a month, I just don't get it?
>>7397670How long have you been drawing pawell?
>>7397676Did he draw multiple things every day while constantly asking for and applying advice he got here? Nah that couldn't be. Must be his genes
>>7397666Gratz on the trips of death.That's a cool pic, I like that! I don't often check /beg/ so I might not be, either way my dsc username is the same name as the yt channel I posted on so if you wanna chat/help with hatching you can add me there
>>7397661>is she supposed to be covered in fur? that's what the lighting is trying to tellno, i was trying to make the light more stylized since it looked boring beforeIll tone down the texture next time if it's conveying the wrong material >>7397670i know about that stuff, also i used way less brush strokes than it looks
>>7397683>>7397676He actually drew
>>7397676unironically pure talent
>>7397678he started this year get off his back already
>>7397676>How did you reach this level in a month, I just don't get it?bro what you saw him get shit on every single day with multiple people redlining his workyou known what he did? he fucking drew
>>7397676It turns out, just drawing will actually make you better at drawing.
>>7397676>all these clueless repliesHe's just a /pro/ that's been larping as an improving /beg/
>>7397714this is some next level cope to justify your own stagnation
>>7397676Is there a before and after picture? He should make a pewdiepie-type video.
>know that once you screw up bad once you’re less likely to screw up (or at least as badly) the second time>still get demotivated after the first failureMinds are a strange thing.
>>7397718he posted his month's summary some threads back. you can see his steady improvement
>>7397715Nobody improves in a month, much less becomes a real /pro/, without being a talented Eastern Asian who drew anime in a /pro/-supervised artschool since before hitting puberty.You know I'm right.
If you do digital, do you draw on paper then scan it then finish on the computer or you sketch on the computer directly?
>>7397724I never convert trad to digital, feels too uncanny and is too much of a hassle
>>7397726Get a mirror. Do a self-portrait.
>>7397723but he is finnish. he has the jeans, it was never a fair competition. Also, just because you can't improve, it doesn't mean no one can>>7387253i found his summary. you can see the gradual improvement
I'm not getting any better. It's over.
I'm not trying to crab or be a dick, but I don't think that improvement is worth "How did you improve that fast??? WTF???" posts. He improved at a normal rate if you draw often and don't have a mental disability, which to be fair is better than most of the people on /ic/.
>>7397601How did you improve that fast??? WTF???
>>7397729Thanks for posting the 1-month improvement compilation, anon. Good progress. He'll soon be too good for /ic/ and leave. Many such cases.
>>7397734This. Also, he only drew basically one thing. It's pewdiepie all over again.
>>7397740Quick someone make a thread about him
no, the difference is that anon cares about his big titty recruityou won't ever improve if you don't care about box #256 or loomis head #499you need to care
>>7397736soon we will have threads with cyclops-chan>*mindbreaks /ic/ permabegs*
>>7397734we're all bitter shitposters and, for once, we can have fun without abusing someone
3D-printing a loomis box and putting it up my butthole so I can finally FEEL THE FORMS for real
>>7397361I think the composition is weak. That box shape in the background keeps dragging my attention away from the characters. I think your values are muddy and make it hard to see things clearly. There's also something about the colors that don't work for me, possibly how there's no dominant color, like the piece is almost evenly split between a green top half and red bottom half. You're doing good though and I like the idea so keep at it.
Can I get some general critique on this? I'm looking to improve.
>>7397745we did
>>7397771Why'd you hide the arm my manIf you wanna improve go study hands
>>7397776>Why'd you hide the arm my man because the pose is meant to be sorta shy.
>>7397771>long thighs, short forelegs, as there was no good construction to place the knees at the midpoints of the legs>bad right foot>bad toes>awkward foot posture>asymmetric arms with many issues due to a lack of good construction>the wand has conflicting perspectives along its length>asymmetric horns placementPerspective and figure drawing sessions are needed, also habitually zoom out and mirror your sketches before committing to them
>>7397676>>7397736I just like drawing my character in different situations. I don't know what to tell you
>>7397781How do you incorporate figure drawing and perpective onto a sketch?
This took me four hours to draw. I feel it's one of my best so far (since September last year), and this was the first time I ever drew this character and I feel I nailed their anatomy well enough. Only thing I am not happy with is the right foot perspective wise, was a bitch to figure out so hope it isn't too jarring. Critiques are welcome.
>>7397784what is a sketch?
>>7397783I love you cyclops-chan. Don't worry about all these guys hazing you
>>7397784By starting the sketch by them>figure drawingDepends on the method>perspectiveDraw grids and vanishing points, for the basic shapes - boxes - in different rotations and point perspectives first, exactly until you're sick of itThen switch to thinking of how things are relative to the eye level>bothFigures are made of basic shapes that you can start with as easily manipulatable boxes, you can find/guess the rest of the answerYou'll just have to search and try different videos, methods, books, courses, because nobody knows which ones will help you understand better
Idk why two of them are in damn near the same pose but it was on the same day.
>>7397345I've got no critique, just wanted to say I like the subject. >>7397601I think you did well on all creases and folds on the clothing. >>7397676Many factors go into learning: goal, starting point, how someone learns, the pace at which they absorb and process information, willingness to experiment, and ETC. It happens. What's important is that you don't discouraged and keep trying.
>>7397796Why did you draw a jew anon
>>7397796not to be a disgusting creep simp weirdo, but these drawings smell of girl pheromones OwO
>>7397793I see, thanks for the insight, its a good start.
>>7397800Thanks. I've been trying to make her clothes look better in the recent drawings. I'm glad they look good
>>7397601>HEEEEERRRE'S JOHNNY!!!!!
>>7397796why did you draw the jew like a fucking anime bishie jfc what is wrong with fujos
>>7397783Me too anon.I wish I had as much drive to draw as much as you. I always put too much time in a single project rather than moving on to learn more.How much time do you spend on an image. I'm anywhere between 2 and 6 hours
>>7397801>>7397823Not a fujo, and I draw jews because I am a jew.>>7397802Also you have to be put down. I'm a man.
>>7397828>i am a jew>i am a manone truth, one lie
>>7397830Love how your brain works?Anyways have another drawing. Ignore the guy on the top right
>>7397824I don't really keep count, I'd say upper estimate is 2-3 hours maybe, but I like splitting drawing my images into 2 sessions. It's so when I return to my drawing, it's easy to notice mistakes
>>7397834sovlful
>>7397836I do that too. I think that's why I end up taking so long. I'll come back and be like "what was I thinking?" And change a lot.Thank you for the insight
Like?
I need to practice more. I am still terrible.
>>7397866DEFINITELY not terrible? Its literally just unfinished, shade.
>>7397866Better than me anon. What are you trying to say? I should kill myself? I'm too busy trying to learn hatching (later)
>>7397783>He just drew>Anons don't believe itJust draw
Where can I get references for anime expressions?
>>7397889people seem to expect some insane shortcut or cheat method. when it's in fact just drawing and having fun while doing it
>>7397896Settei dreams, screenshots of anime, genga.
How can I make the glowing eye stand out more? I tried a technique I saw on YouTube: copying the eye layer, setting it to color dodge, and applying Gaussian blur, but it looked shit.
>>7397899>when it's in fact just drawing and having fun while doing it
>>7397866You are. That hand shortcut is the worst thing artist have made the perfect example of how its watered down.Stop fishing for compliments.
Does the hand and/or face look fucked up or is it alright?
>>7397931>>7397899impossible pill to swallow
>>7397897Try using a bigger brush. And up the contrast the core shadow on the pear is clearly darker than most of the picture. The shadow on the stem looks like one of the darkest areas. If you're having trouble with contrast try simplifying your values into 3 separate tones (Dark light midtone) afterwards you can blend and adjust the darker tones.
>>7397925Just choose lighter colors. It's a hlowing eye. Treat it as a light source
>>7397728
>>7397925Things that glow are bright, like really really bright. Like, no matter what color it is, it's going to mostly just look white.Also, bump the contrast to make the light parts look lighter.
>>7397966I'm a dumbass, forgot pic
>>7397925it already stands out
>>7397723Do you think cyclops is /pro/ already. Should I just give up at this point
>>7397966>>7397968y'know maybe the answer is exactly to crop it like you did
>>7397934Honestly it all looks fucked, hand is flat and non-3D, no wrist, face is 3D-ish but unintentionally uglyJust some of the ideas for study session for youI like how you managed to do the hair relatively alright though
>>7397933>That hand shortcutwdym? nta
>>7397969>>7397925>>7397966I increased the contrast, brightened the eye and light, and tried to enhance the light coming out of the eye and onto the hair. Does it look better?
>>7397935genuine vantablack pillits so over
>>7397989desaturate the background hard, and (optional) desaturate the hair a little bitlet's see if that helps
>>7398000how long have you been drawing?
>>7397866You should kill yourself :(
>>7398002This anon is genuinely mind broken
>>7398002three years this feburary, mostly amputee stuff. critique?
>>7397991How's this? Desaturated the background and desaturated the hair a little.
>>7398005I don't want to say anything mean since you actually responded that honestly. dios mio o algo. Keep it up
>>7398008I know this has nothing to do with what you're asking but why is each segment of her crucifix a different length, even when accounting for perspective it looks weird
>>7398011I didn't notice it looked weird, was mostly focused on the head and up when drawing it. I'll fix it now though
>>7398011Does this look better?
>>7398008crank that shit up (might have over done it on the hair)
>>7398045Looks good so far, keep it up.
>>7398053That was just an example modification for the original poster of that image. He was asking for how to draw attention to the eye, but his contrast was way too low.
>>7398019Is it supposed to be one of the necklaces thats sideways? I know those are a thing
>>7397192Day 4 of owning a drawing tablet and trying to learn to draw. I re-did the second sketch in hopes things would turn out less clunky with box placement. Is this any better?>>7397196>>7397577
>>7398045Reuploading pic with fixed eye, I fucked it up and just noticed now
>>7398075Looking good
How do I improve my art when I am forced to take frequent long breaks due to chronic pain in my joints and nerve pain? I want to grind to be better, but when I set my eyes on a grind to undertake, I can barely scratch the surface and begin feeling overwhelmed when my studies take just as long as more intricate pieces I want to do. I’m frustrated because it hurts to practice, and I feel lost.
>>7398008Chuni kino. I prefer this version>>7397989 with the darker background because it makes it all sinister.
>>7398103Yea, I think it looks cooler too. I'm uploading it like this onto my socials.
>>7398087You could always stop making excuses.
>>7398155Said a person who does not suffer with chronic pain.
>>7398170I have chronic pain in my dick that forces me to massage it for hours on end every day.
>>7396955
>>7398179Where. Nipple. WHERE... NIPPLE?
DAMN CAT LOOKING AT ME CONDESCENDINGLY ! ! !
>>7398182Their nipples weren't suckable enough to be drawn :/
My roommate who isnt actively trying to learn to draw saw me and wanted to try one, he did the one of the left. Is the one on the right looking okay? Should I move on to some other kind of practice?
>>7398197the boxes should be a first step towards drawing the actual ribcage and pelvisright now your boxes are useless for this purpose, compare them with pic related
>>7398207So i've been wasting my ti me this entire time? dios mio...
>reading charlie pickard's color and light book>having difficulty grasping the basic concepts of valuei really hope my IQ is above 90 or i might be too retarded to make it
>>7398197Better??
>>7398087You can still study without actually drawing; reading books and watching videos on subjects you struggle with. >>7398121Looks awesome.
>>7398087I think it'd be best to accept you have a hard limit on your training and that it's okay, you can't change that fact so don't beat yourself up over it. Keep your old art in a folder to help gauge your growth and focus on the now, making progress little by little. How long can you draw before it becomes too much to deal with?
used a youtube thumbail as reference and drew thisn eye witout tracin it
>>7397925Brighten up the eye more, desaturate the brightest part, then darken the areas around it and saturate the colors more there.
>>7398260Yeah, I should read though some books at least.>>7398269It’s something I’m struggling to accept, but I’ve reached a point of not having much choice. Lately, it’s been less than 30 minutes but it’s because my normal work exacerbates it. Some days are better, but there’s entire stretches where drawing at all leads to bad enough pain to make me not want to do it. Downside is it feels like damned if you do damned if you don’t, so sometimes I just load up on Tylenol and ibuprofen and push through it anyway. I usually regret it though, so I’ve been taking it a lot easier. I’ve been working on a still life in acrylic gouache, but it’s been close to a month now. I was thinking about buying a course that’s considered good so that at least when I do have the energy and pain allowance, I’m doing stuff that’s productive and proven and structured.
>>7397934The hand is the biggest culprit. It's way too small and it looks like the dude has a fifth finger, but I'm pretty sure that's just supposed to be his palm. I think a general rule of thumb (or hand lol) is that hands are about the size of your face. I *slightly* moved some things around that I thought were off. Made his hand bigger, moved his head and neck to the left, and adjusted both arms to bring them closer in size.Not the worst though! Keep it up!
>>7398277I'm sorry for your situation anon. Hope things get better. In the mean time, you could hit practice drills like gesture drawing and value studies, things that can be, and SHOULD be, done briefly. Trying to brainstorm ideas here ... it might be worthwhile to stop before the pain sinks in and then take notes of what you need to paint next in the piece or spots that need touching up. That way you can hop right back in without potentially meandering about. It's silly sounding, but oil paints take forever to dry, so you could just pretend you're a classic painter and the breaks you're taking are for the painting, not you -- even if you're doing acrylic or guache.
>>7397786Outstanding, anon! I think I want to play this game for Christmas.
>>7396219>what videos?https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz4l1wAU1EfPEHciLFlL-45SP8Xz--jtkhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTY4AtphBe8Oq5Oaa7inP2_cvtmoEBG7ZStill have to autistically measure everything like a madman to come up with something subpar bcuz permabeg but ehhh... better than getting lost I guess.
>>7397167Tuesday
>>7398250>>7398207
>>7398310do you plan on buying a drawing tablet? I would recommend a cheap wacom to start, very affordable and will get the job done.
>>7397177Todays practice / studyI know this isn't anatomically accurate, I'm more focused on learning to paint / render then anatomy rn. Any crit? I tried using >>7397278Response of adding darker / more values to add contrast, but am not sure I applied it correctly.
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 10: A little late tonight.To mark being a 3rd of the way through the month, I tried doing a drawing in half my normal time with minimal uses of references. As bad as it looks, at least she looks like makima to me. I used to only think I could draw stick figures unless I had an image to directly copy.I know her tie is comically short, but I already put my sketch pad away
>>7398325Draw your lines with confidence so they don't look so bumpy, and there's less chicken scratch in your final drawings. And please use a reference.
>>7397493The first couple, Anatomy for Artists and Simplified Forms were great, quite well done for what they are. Seems like the newer ones were rushed a bit, they didn't seem as polished but still useful as they covered muscled bodies and fat people which a lot of books don't. Overall they don't have much instruction. He said they are meant to be used more as reference books rather than instructional books. That's why they are A5 size, so you can carry they around with you when you need to reference something. If you're a beginner it'll be hard to get much out of them. Beginners should use books or videos with more instruction.
>>7398330Aha yes it looks goofy but i intentionally wanted to try without a reference because as I said, I'm honestly impressed i even managed to come up with this.How can I improve my line confidence?
I made this squirrel girl meme in 20~ minutes, how does it look for something done so quickly
>>7398356Good
>>7398119there's fail in legs' thickness asymmetry as foreshortening is done poorly, but still very cool
>>7398325Have you tried tracing? You will learn something.
>>7398325are you drawing more than just a single makima everyday?
>>7396409I don't understand the 3d forms and volumes. I am merely copying outlines as i can't break this habit of copying only outlines. Is there any good tutorials/books for understanding them? picrel
>>7398412Only practice and mindfulness helped me to keep in mind that perspective for conveying 3D forms has lines that are counterintuitive to draw for a beginner and you have to cycle trace-copy-memory drawing to get it
>>7398416How did you do the square pattern? I personally think the statue is too distracting.
>>7398426Save it as a shitty jpgAnd yeah, maybe. Probably look better once it's colored
>>7398423Thank you sir
>>7398285Thanks for the help anon, means a lot :)
>>7398416>>7398441Both great
>>7397933I am fishing for encouragement. I am just human bean. WAGMI
>toxic improvement culture
>>7396697>>7397256>>7397290>>7397897>>7398000
Tom Fox.
>>7398406No. But every makima takes me around an hour
>>7398523euhmmm, pywalso join the server because we're outta kids to groom
>>7398219no youve been getting practice in and youve made mistakes and learned from them
>>7398441Classic mechanical maiden
>>7398055Alright what the fuck. I swear I modified an image as an example for an anon weeks ago and gave this EXACT response to the EXACT same post. Or I'm just going fucking mad, either is possible
>>7398155NTA, hope you never experience chronic joint pain lol
And here we are at the Cutie Club y'allI hope you enjoy yourselves Cause the drawing's about to begin
page 6. should we get new thread up soon, anyone cooking a OP pic?
>>7398625I'm just too upright to ever take credit for another anon's work.
>>7398625It's a common enough situation. /beg/s are timid with value and suck at navigating anonymous conversations.
>>7398314I have no plans to buy one as of now.
>>7398648Let's wait for page 8 :^)
>>7398525Your stuff reminds me of 2000s cartoons. Nice facial expressions.
>>7398821Even better let's just wait for the general to just be pruned
>>7398799push your darks, negro look at the value difference between the shadow of the apple in the ref vs yours
how's my driving? nothing is traced, but I did use a model to construct. training wheels you know. I tried making it 6 heads tall.
>>7398872You just drew silhouette. Draw the rest. THen draw it from memory. And then do it more. If you keep erasing and fixing stuff, trace first.
>>7398872>how's my driving?You need to practice your parallel parking.>nothing is traced, but I did use a model to construct.I mean, it's alright, some basic mistakes on the left leg (no hip and the lines don't connect) but... why did you use an anatomy model and didn't draw any anatomy?
>>7398890what do you mean by parallel parking?also I wanted to get the silhouette right first. >>7398884as in, try to get the musculature in?
GUYS i'm NOT feeling "it" today
>>7398949>>7398949>>7398949new thread
>>7398946Is that a child?
>>7398940>what do you mean by parallel parking?Read your question again lol
>>7398953oh im stupid.
>>7398952no, just an ugly gobbo
