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Old thread:
>>201512661
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>>201576822

What the fuck is this? lmao
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>>201576932
Das crazy
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these generals are getting more and more low-effort by the day
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> these generals are getting more and more low-effort by the day
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bump
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/lang/bros...
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is it fine if i just find grammar books horribly boring and cant sit through them
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This bad boy just arrived frim the university library.
The system thinks my post is spam.
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SMASHED
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SLAMMED
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>>201583260
would you learn math by sitting through and reading the book in one go? you're supposed to learn the concepts of formal grammar and practice them until you know what they are and how to apply them by heart, and then reference grammatical rules when learning how to break down and form sentences in whatever language you're studying
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I can barely tell the difference between ɔ/ɒ I might be retarded.
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>>201583853
isn't [ɒ] supposed to be rounded?
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>>201584619
they both are, the second is low and the mid-low
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I think I'll give up German. To get any use out of this language and master it I'd have to live in Germany or Austria for a year, maybe two in the near future. The problem is that I don't like Germans and I don't want to live around them. They're rude, whining, arrogant and passive-aggressive. Lobelia Sackville-Baggins: the nation.
I like language a lot, but unfortunately not its speakers.
Idk anons. Am I right, or was I just unlucky to meet such Germans online?
Do you have similar experiences with your TL and native speakers?
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swnbam
swanbap
swabac
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>>201584740
oh shit, I mistook it for the unrounded version.
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>>201584784
Austrians are a tad more Slav-like, but we're still often arrogant, rude, whining, and passive-aggressive. At least we're not as autistic as the Germans.
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>>201583853
According to the Romanian vowel chart I googled, if Romanian is your native language, your vowels may be lying to you. Your u is probably a tad lower than the IPA standard, and your o is probably closer to ɔ than to o in most cases. If you shift those up you may be able to hear the difference between ɔ and (turned, open) a with the extra room in your vowel space.
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>>201584877
>At least we're not as autistic as the Germans.
You say this as if it were something positive.
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>>201584877
>>201585169
It's not autism, it's egocentrism and aciting like an old hag.
It's amazing that the Germans here are less schizo than in the normal "Internet". I regret not learning German when I was younger, when I didn't notice certain things and had the will to deal with this bullshit or maybe your nations were less bitchy, idk. Sorry for comparing you to an old hag, but when I talked to Germans it was like talking with an old bitter woman who doesn't like anything and especially me. Thank you for reading my blog
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WTF is she saying?

https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1721925349451548.webm
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>>201586321
I'm learning german to read Nietzsche and Schopenhauer, I don't care about talking with them.
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>>201586466
What language is this supposed to be? The format of the video looks Korean but they don't have an f sound. Then I thought it might be Cantonese but I'm not hearing any tones. Indonesian, maybe?

Also, I'm pretty sure the guy says "it's like a swear" (욕 같은데요) at the end
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>>201587015
have you read them already
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>>201586466
It's one of those Korean videos where they bring people of different nationalities together (all of whom are pursuing careers in SKorea, Seoul mostly). This must be challenge where she says something in a different language or something. No idea what exactly, though, and yeah, doesn't sound like Korean at all.
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>>201587135
Is that a question, if yes then where's the question mark?
If it is, the answer is not yet, I'm not good enough to read them, I read simpler texts for the time being.
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I learned only 4000 words in a year.

/lang/sisters... The input hypothesis has officially been disproven.
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>>201576951
baby hunting contest
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>>201587591
Kek
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>>201586321
Well, both us and the Germans are basically reserved cultures. We're skeptical of new things and we take a good while to open up to them. So yeah, when recommending or suggesting things to us, you'll often be rejected first, even if it's yourself. Once you've broken through, you'll find we are quite loyal, though. We're not unfriendly and miserable per se, it's mostly a sort of defensive strategy.

>>201587015
Very German, ironically.
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>>201584784
imo you should base your desire on a culture's art not it's people
it's really easy to run into a spate of low quality people, but culture is there forever

also, you dont have to live in germany, you could just get a tutor specifically for conversation and learn german from the comfort of whichever country you are visiting
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>>201587734
>Very German, ironically.
Yeah, I've heard that before, I'm also honest, orderly and punctual, if that what means to be German, then I'd fit in.
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I want to have an accent like Arthur from RDR2, how can I accomplish that, any advice?
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Are you learning a shorthand for your lang?
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Stuck on 70% retention rate for weeks.

NGMI
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>>201590293
I'm inventing my own shorthand for TL.
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>>201587893
>imo you should base your desire on a culture's art not it's people
not a bad idea. the more i learn about them the less i like them. makes it hard to continue
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>>201590505
based
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Finnish auto-generated captions finally made it to youtube. They're pretty good too
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>>201590745
More Poles should write ą like I do.
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>langer Rede, kurzer Sinn

why langer instead of lange?
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>>201590293
there is semi-cursive and full cursive in chinese but i don't know where i'd learn them
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>>201591021
https://9610.com/zidian/
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>>201576822
finding books on archive.org is nice because you can go through and parse a chapter sentence by sentence then go back and have the entire chapter read back to you.
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>>201590824
analogy with kurzer, most likely
that's how these things happen
the 'proper' form still has 'lange'
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Saya telah memutuskan untuk kembali belajar bahasa Indonesia. Bahasa Jerman memang lebih mudah, tetapi menurut saya kedengarannya terlalu kasar saat diucapkan. Bahasa Indonesia terasa jauh lebih baik saat saya mengucapkannya, jadi, meskipun lebih sulit, saya akan terus berjuang.
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Beule
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>>201576951
TOADLINE EXOTIC BULLY SMASHED AND SLAMMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Erdapfel
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>>201594621
Apfelsinne
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>tfw lng is dead
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i can speak english, spanish, and japanese all at the same time, check this out:
>yo tengo tenga
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>你穿得那么少, 会感冒的.
what's the purpose of 的 here
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!
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What's the point of language learning in this AI era
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>>201599003
none, never learn a languag, never change, never improve
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>>201599003
Because it's rewarding and enjoyable
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>>201580709
Kekkk
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>>201592583
MOONANON SAYANGKU CINTAKU SELAMAT DATANG KEMBALI
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>>201597391
跟形容词一样
>你才是很努力的。
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>>201576951
Severely inbred dogs being used as some form of hoodrat pyramid scheme. You buy the dogs to breed them and sell them to other likeminded individuals but in reality the fucking things just die because of how deformed they are.
How do you say the above in Spanish?
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>>201587734
>Reserved, skeptical
You are not from my experience. You add some comments to the conversation, usually political, in a veiled way, not directly, yes, but only to crack moment later and throw some shit and accuse the other person of racism, of plotting with USA against Germany, treating with AfD and ofc american "let me tell you about your country"
And I'm talking about non political fb gropus with normies. I don't know if it's because I'm Polish, but that's the impression I had.
Now that I think about it, maybe I was unlucky. But, Christ, you guys love making conversation unpleasant. You now remind me more of redditors and chuds, not Goethe or Falco or some practival and organized, but a bit shy persons
I will still learn German, but I was shocked, I wanted to complain and I was curious if other learners had experienced similar surprises or disappointments
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>>201599003
The same point as any other hobby.
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>>201590824
The phrase is "Langer Rede kurzer Sinn". So no comma. This makes it more obvious that "Langer Rede" is in the genitive. "Long speech's short point".
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>>201600804
>And I'm talking about non political fb gropus with normies
There's your mistake. Seriously man, you might as well extrapolate that every country is full of racist assholes from only visiting /int/. Social media makes everyone behave at their worst. When I read German social media comments, I have to tell myself that people aren't like that in person (they mostly really aren't - I know because I socialize with strangers from different backgrounds a lot).
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>>201599003
What's the point in painting and drawing if photoshop and cameras exist?
What's the point in playing chess if computers beat humans for over 30 years?
What's the point in doing any sport if roided athletes exist?
What's the point in singing and playing an instrument if AI can do it too?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFBu-MLk7vk
Does anyone know where in England this accent is from?
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>>201604461
Definitely a Northern accent, something around Yorkshire. But I think she's trying to speak the Queen's English and not succeeding, making it all sound a bit odd. The typical Northern intonation at the end of a sentence is kind of exaggerated/kinda forced here, maybe from trying to produce a more RP end-of-sentence intonation.

Honestly, it sounds like text-to-speech with a Northern accent.
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>>201604734
It's possibly the ugliest english accent I've heard so far, I want to steer clear of wherever it originates from
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>>201602534
Im Nachhinein weiß ich nicht, wie das mir entgangen ist. Danke für die Erklärung
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>>201604787
I have several friends from northern UK and I love their accents. The one in the video is quite weird and honestly grating to listen to. I would say don't abandon the accent just because of that video.
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I will learn German by playing uboat
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>>201605125
You will learn German by reading Kant, and that's that.
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>>201605354
I thought Germans read Kant in English translation
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>>201599003
I do translating at my job, we use AI cuz it's fast and precise enough. Only thing I have to do is Ctrl-C Ctrl-V proofread Ctrl-C Ctrl-V. Proofreading is still important and basically not possible if you don't know the language you're translating from/to.
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bump
la bosse
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>>201594123
it's not even a long or "scary" word (has 3 syllables like potato does)
this one is stupid
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Yesterday someone asked me
你今年多大了?
and I thought they asked
你几点去到了?
I think I focused too much on 几岁 and neglected 多大 because the second one is more English-like.

But here's a question. Why 几岁 and 多大, why not 多岁 and 几大? Most answers I saw focused on 几 being a smaller amount (at least traditionally) whereas 多 can be used for larger numbers. But if that's the whole of it, why do they pattern with different verbs? Why can't we take one verb, e.g. 岁, and just swap out the question words depending on the size of the expected answer: 几岁 vs 多岁?
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>>201609376
I know you probably not asking for this, but
>你幾大
>你幾多歲
are all perfectly valid ways to ask for age in Cantonese.
>but why
I don't know.
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>>201608423
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Arab bros, do I write the short vowels for my Anki drills or should I leave the words in their standard forms? One option helps with pronunciation but the other helps with word recognition.
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German:
hintergehen has two forms.
The untrennbar form means "backstab". Forms hinterging, hintergangen.
The trennbar form means "go behind", forms ging hinter, hintergegangen.
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>>201611841
Not quite right.
As one word, "hintergehen" always means to betray, cheat, be unfaithful etc. It's always written as one word. "Er hat sie hintergangen." "Sie hintergeht ihn schon seit Jahren."
Your second instance is simply combining the verb "gehen" with the preposition "hinter" - but not into one word. "Wir gehen hinter das Haus." "Wir sind hinter das Haus gegangen." You cannot write that as one word.
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>>201611470
Is there a way to make the vowel markings render more faintly than the abjad characters, for example the abjad characters are in black and the vowels markings in a light gray? That might be a cool way to do it if doable.
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>>201612127
Thanks for the explanations.
I come across this word in wikidict by chance. I look into Duden and it says this usage is "ostmitteldeutsch, süddeutsch, umgangssprachlich", so maybe it is not a good example for a verb with multiple forms...
https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/hintergehen
https://www.dwds.de/wb/hintergehen
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>>201612127
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hintergehen


Was machst du aus diesem Wörterbucheintrag aus? Ich bin übrigens derselben Meinung und würde nie sowas wie ich bin das Haus hintergegangen schreiben, aber wenn man den Eintrag da liest, liegt meiner Meinung nach es nahe, sowas wie das doch zu schreiben. Als Randnotiz habe ich total vergessen, dass hintergehen im Sinne von verraten haben als Hilfszeit fordert. Also danke für die Erinnerung daran.
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>>201612307
It's possible with pango markup, but I don't know if anki supports it. Also it seems like a pita to create a lot of cards like this, unless he can automate it with a script.
https://docs.gtk.org/Pango/pango_markup.html
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>>201612790
ach sorry. Wrong link.
https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/hintergehen_nach_hinten
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>>201612790
>>201612816
Fair enough, but like the Duden, I would put this usage down as regional/dialectal. It's not standard German and a teacher in Germany or Austria would certainly mark this as a mistake if you handed in an exercise with it.
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>>201612816
>>201612790
What I forgot: Note also that this usage is intransitive, so no object. You can't say "Ich bin das Haus hintergegangen." The object is implied, just as when you say "Ich bin nach hinten gegangen" (synonymous).

Personally, I only know "hinteri geh" in Austrian dialect (which I always took to be two words), but people may well say "hintergeh" or sth similar. Again, not standard language, so people might not understand you everywhere or think you're making a mistake.
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>>201612840
Definitely way too much effort for something that's just work related anyway. My question is pretty much "should I go with no training wheels right away".
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>>201613229
>>201612965
Thank you! I will be careful with these words in my study.
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>>201609376
Iirc 幾 asks for a quantity and 多 asks for a a measurement -- roughly analogous to English "how many" vs "how much," respectively. This is why *多個 as a question is patently absurd.
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>>201611470
I don't see why you would want to give yourself less information in the beginning stages of anything.
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is esgourde just an informal way to say oreille ?
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>>201594123
ziemniak
/ˈʑɛm.ɲak/
>>201611366
niespodzianka
/ɲɛ.spɔˈd͡ʑan.ka/
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damn this anki shit is getting overwhelming
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>>201614284
STOP
FLASHCARD
GOONING


READ NATIVE CONTENT ONLY
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>>201604461
>>201604734
I'm Northern, and you're right, there is something weird about this. I would not be surprised if it's a TTS/AI because the intonation is completely fucked, but if that was the case, surely they could have chosen a better TTS model.
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Went to my uni's german club meeting and got some decent exposure and they told me I could sit in on a German I class. What else can I do to get into it? I learned most of my pronunciations from listening to Rammstein as a teenager (lol), so I need to improve that since most of it seems exaggerated. Any German shows/comics I could watch or read?
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>>201613422
If you can learn at an acceptable rate without them then I suppose its better to do away with them as soon as possible, but then again I haven't studied arabic.
Do you mind saying more about your job? I'm curious what workplace requires you to learn arabic.
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>>201614284
lower your new cards and do it in the morning
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>>201615045
Just an IT company, main clients are from the UAE. We use AI for translation but at least reading Arabic is a plus and I could get some benefits. Even if in the end I don't get anything, at least I'll end up with a new language which is good for satisfying my autism.
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>>201599686
Terimah kasih teman2!

>>201599003
Fun. There's not value in learning tennis but I still practice it a lot. Sometimes you do things simply because you like it.
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it would seem anki is inevitable
sorry inpoot bros
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>>201604461
Her accent is lovely, I love Northern English accents.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9T81PqtnR8&pp=ygUfRmluYWwgZmFudGFzeSAxNiBDaWQncyBkYXVnaHRlcg%3D%3D
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>>201616282
Meant for >>201604787
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Can Russians recognize Russian speaking Poles by accent?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCLimykzKoA
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>>201594123
>being different is... BAD!
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>>201615172
arabic seems like a cool language to learn, I'd also try it for job benefits
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>>201576951
shitbulls

>>201576822
TOTAL SHITBULL DEATH
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Apparently the french call this tool an "english key", which is amusing because it's called a "french key" here.
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No one has actually answered the question about the op image

Black people literally have dog fights. It's a poster advertisement for a fight between those 2 dogs..Whites used to do the same but apart from gypsy subhumans, we've evolved beyond dog fighting now.
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>>201618286
I'd just call it an adjustable wrench, so not very soulful for english, unless there is some other name for it.
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>>201618286
SCHRAUBSCHLÜSSEL
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>>201618659
wiktionary says it's also called monkey wrench
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>>201609376
Because 岁 is always a noun that refers to an accurate number (as in 几天, 几公里, 几杯水), while 大 is an adjective which sometimes could be used for a rough amount (as in 多久, 多远, 多累).
>几 being a smaller amount (at least traditionally) whereas 多 can be used for larger numbers.
It's 几 vs 多少, which is an entirely separate issue from the 几 vs 多 above. 几 is used for single-digit numbers, while 多少 is for larger number or a number that you don't know how large it is.
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Quick challenge:

>Ez
I'm ordering shoes on the internet.
You should really get a haircut.

>Mid
The wheat beer I'm having is quite flat, maybe it's off.
It's so frustrating, we can't find a suitable location for the company outing next month.

>Hard
Home owners must ensure their lawn is kept to a length of at most 2 inches at all times. Failure to so will result in a warning on first offense. Any further offenses will result in a progressively increasing fines.
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N
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>>201613589
By the way, why do you never participate in challenges, Cantonanon?
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>>201623022
tilaan kenkiä netistä
sun täytyy leikätä sun hiuksiä
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Just finished taking an official mock test for TOCFL B Band. Managed to get 65 in reading and 50 in listening, just barely putting me into B2 and B1 respectively. My actual level is probably just below them though, since(in my experience) mock tests tend to be a little easier than the actual exams. Reading went very well and I managed to finish it some 20 minutes early, listening was an absolute nightmare past the first ten questions. The difficulty flew off to god knows where, and by the time I got to that part my concentration went poof and I had a horrible fucking headache.
On the whole I think I had very good results and feel relieved that I got B1 in listening, this proves that watching anime with dubs and subs does have a noticeable positive effect towards listening comprehension, and now I can continue forcefeeding myself anime in Mandarin. I've got about a hundred more episodes on my drive that I need to go through, after that I'll probably never listen to a Mandarin anime dub ever again.
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>>201607492
i used to bump with bosse when i was learning french but then i realized it was a wrong translation because it's not bump as in a protuberance but bump as in push
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>>201626439
what's the correct translation?
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>>201626641
not sure desu
pousse, cogne, bute, maybe (impératif forms of their respective verbs)
but i imagine in francofil they probably just say bump
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>>201623022
내가 인터넷으로 구두를 주문할 거야
네가 면도해야 된다고 생각해요

마시는 맥주가 싱거운데 아마 이상해요
너무 답답해, 다음 달 회사의 외출 위한 알맞은 곳을 찾을 수 없어요
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>>201620129
that's what I would have called it
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>>201620129
might also get called a pipe wrench
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>>201611366
Surpriza is articulated so it actually says "the surprise" The unarticulated form is "surpriză". It also has synonyms but they don't come from French so they see no use.
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>>201611366
Also, Mexico instead of Spanish.
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>>201629704
Interesting, I wasn't aware Romanian uses agglutiniation for articles. Does it differentiate between indefinite and definite articles?
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What are the two most global/relevant/useful languages after English?
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>>201623022
>Ez
Я пoкyпaю oбyви пo интepнeтy.
Teбe дoлжнo пoдcтpичь вoлocы.

>Mid
Cette bière de blé est un peau plate, s'est peut être avariée.
On ne peut pas trouver un bon endroit pour la fête de l'entreprise qui vient le mois suivant, c'est tellement énervent.
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>>201631283
Sámi and Tupí-Guaraní
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>>201629940

TL;DR Yes.


The indefinite articles are "un" (male), "o" (female) so you get "un morcov" (a carrot), "o stea" (a star). Two as an article is also gendered (doi morcovi, două stele). You can also use "niște/niscai" (both mean "some")

Romanian has a neuter gender which is just singular male, plural female e.g. un scaun/două scaune (a chair, two chairs). Scaunul/Scaunele (the chair/the chairs).
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>>201631736
The definite articles are -L or singular male, A for singular female, both of which might use an U to bind them to the word, for example:
un morcov -> morcovul (the carrot), o stea -> steaua, noapte (night) -> noaptea. tată (father) -> tatăl is the only male word I can think of that doesn't use the u other than words that already end in a u. In female nouns when acting as a binder it makes a W sound like in water.

Singular male words that end in e and plural female both have the -le article. pește (fish, male noun) -> peștele (the fish), fată ( girl, from older feată) -> fata (the girl) | fete (girls) -> fetele (the girls), stea (from older steală)-> două stele (two stars) -> stelele (the stars), ou (egg, this is a neuter noun) -> oul (the egg), ouă (eggs) -> ouăle (the eggs), o oaie (sheep sing.), oaia (the sheep sing.), -> două oi (sheep pl.), oile (the sheep pl.), noapte -> nopți (nights, it takes on a male form due to the i ending, stressed o's and e's tend to turn into oa/ea while they have both female endings (such as -e and -ie) and gender (o oaie, două oi, pl. ends in i so it takes a male form, also un os (a bone), două oase (two bones), this is a also neuter noun) , and become semi-vowels near a) -> nopțile (the nights), secure (axe), securea (the axe), securi (axes), securile (the axes) | topor (also means axe, neuter noun), toporul, topoare, topoarele. Male plural just adds another i which turns it from a very short i sound into an "iy": băiat (boy), băiatul, băieți, băieții | pește, pești, peștii. This is really messy but it should explain most things.
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>>201631283
Chinese and Hindi
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>>201623022
Ich bestelle ein paar Schuhe im Netz.
Meiner Meinung nach solltest du dir die Haare schneiden lassen.

Das Weizenbier, das ich trinke, ist ziemlich schal. Vielleicht stimmt irgendwas damit nicht.
Finde es unglaublich frustrierend, dass wir keinen für den im nächsten Monat stattfindenden Firmenausflug geeigneten Standort finden können.

Hausbesitzer müssen dafür sorgen, dass deren Rasen zu allen Zeiten und ohne Ausnahmen halmgenau bei zwei inches bleiben. Nichteinhaltung dieser Rasenregeln wird bei erstem Verstoß als Strafe eine bloße Abmahnung zur Folge haben, aber jegliche weitere Verstöße werden immer weiter zunehmende Gebühre als Konsequenz haben. Also mähen Sie bitte Ihren Rasen pünktlich!
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Why is saying “hispanoparlante” incorrect?
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>>201576822
Please stop smashing and slamming dogs.
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>>201634759
That's because "parlar" is a verb from another language, it's Italian. We say "hablar", thus making the compound noun "hispanohablante", who(m) speaks Spanish.
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>>201634759
I'm not sure if parlar or any of it's derivatives are in common use in Spanish. hablar means the same thing and is actually in use.
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>>201634759
It's not, both hispanoparlante and hispanohablante are valid.
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>>201635242
Parlare is indeed Italian, but when it comes to Spanish, according to wiktionary at least, it's an Occitan loanword:
>Borrowed from Gallo-Romance (cf. Catalan and Occitan parlar, French parler), from Early Medieval Latin parabolāre.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/parlar#Spanish
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>>201635261
???
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>>201636247
Parlante(s) = speakers (from the pc)
No one says "parlante" unless it's an object or animal that speaks, blame cinema dubbing for that.
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>>201636348
so "talking dog" would be "Perro Parlante"?
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제 방은 너무 추워 죽겠어요
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>>201636403
Yes.
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>>201623022
french/français
>facile
je commande des chaussures sur l'internet.
tu devrais en vrai te faire couper les cheveux.
>moyen
la bière de blé que je bois est plutôt plate, peut-être est-elle avariée/périmée.
c'est tellement agaçant, on ne peut pas trouver un lieu convenable à l'outing de la compagnie le prochain mois.
>difficile
les propriétaires doivent s'assurer que leurs gazons seront tondus à une longueur de 2 pouces au maximum tout le temps. à défaut de le faire on recevra un avertissement. au cas d'échec un avertissement sera émis à la première infraction. on appliquera des amendes progressivement plus fortes en raison d'éventuelles offenses suivantes.
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>>201635242
>>201635261
>>201635642
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język means tongue/language
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>>201636415
그럼 에어컨을 꺼
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>>201637191
>>201637310
>>201637331
why do you like poland so much
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>>201638540
>best food
>nice traditional + modern music
>nice architecture and town planning (even the meme ones)
>I like some common themes in Polish literature and media
>interesting/inspiring history
>language sounds cool, and after learning it I never felt disillusioned or that it was dumb like some /lang/ers have complained about of their TLs
>Poland unironically rising economically and in soft power
>Polish may be one of the top 10 most economically competitive languages to learn because it's not oversaturated
>isn't a glorified city-state like the rest of East to Central Europe
>the manners and social etiquette of Poles suit me the most
>Polish sports traditions
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Are hieroglyphs in unicode?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=630e2bFLbfY
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>>201640023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Hieroglyphs_(Unicode_block)
yes
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>>201576822
so my aunt bought me a subscription to cahiers du cinema as a gift. if it a good magazine to read if I'm studying french?

what magazine would you say is equivalent skill level wise in english? I jusst dont want to commit a bunch of hours to it and it turns out I could have read some novels instead. I'm trying to determine where this fits in my study plan.

Also, anyone know where I can get french scripts for tv shows? I found french scripts for The Simpsons. I'd love other shows if they are out there.
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>>201640067
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>can't post the peepee hieroglyph on 4chan
How will we do /lang/ challenges in Egyptian?
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>>201639922
BD is now how "foot tickling" is written in Coptic now.
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>>201640372
>>201640395

we're being bullied again /lang/ust bros...
we have Latin, Ancient Greek and even fucking Akkadian learners here. it's not that outlandish to expect someone to want to learn Ancient Egyptian.
Akkadian works though, right? at least I remember it working:
𒀝𒅗𒁺𒌑
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was in the shower and made a big finnish realization that you can turn certain "nen" adjectives into nouns super easily and vice versa
example: rehellinen (honest) turns into rehellisyys (honesty)
or surullinen (sad) into surullisuus (sadness) or todellinen (real) into todellisuus (reality)
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>>201642096
obviously not every adjective works but it makes learning vocab a lot more efficient
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>>201631374
>Я пoкyпaю oбyви пo интepнeтy.
Accusative of oбyвь is still oбyвь
в интepнeтe is more appropriate.

>Teбe дoлжнo пoдcтpичь вoлocы.
нyжнo not дoлжнo, also пoдcтpичьcя (бeз вoлoc) is more common.

You could honestly try the mid sentences too, you're doing pretty good.
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Desperately need to find someone who speaks Fula so I can understand the lyrics in the Far Cry 2 Main Theme, which seems to have never been recorded. Incredible how little resource there is for things like this.
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>>201644258
Good luck finding a Fulan Internet user but you can do your own research
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/Mega%20linguistics%20pack/African/Niger-Congo/other%20Atlantic-Congo/
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Do I have to follow this kind of rigid American accent?

https://youtu.be/UnHLdw6q_QY
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Is Galician pretty much a dialect of Portuguese? I am correct in assuming that in Galicia they speak Galician on the streets/in stores and that a Portuguese person can walk into a store and understand 90%+?
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>>201625786
>why do you never participate in challenges
I probably should, but by the time I browse 4chan at night I'm too tired to do anything else.
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>>201647819
Can't be a dialect if it precedes it
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>>201647188
No, but you should atleast avoid taking language tips from people who still speak English with an foreign accent, unless you plan on ESLmaxxing
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Good morning Saturday morning
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https://heavenlypath.notion.site
I found a thing again
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pokemon in arabic?
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>>201653413
sure, why not?
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>>201655138
i remember some years ago when the interpals thread was still here i browsed one of them and saw people complaining they kept getting messages from turks and other middle easterners and indians even though they were men
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/lang/ bros, tell me all about the language pussy youve been getting
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Should I familiarize myself with Silesian and Kashubian? Just saw a Silesian text and couldn't understand it, but a native Pole explained it to me as if it were native-level knowledge in Polish as a whole.
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>>201656494
"Foreign languages" only counts if it's French, Spanish, Italian and maybe Japanese for "weird" girls.

Most languages give you at minimum 20 incel points.
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>>201616826
Yes, of course. The pronunciation of vowel sounds is specific, a little tense or something. At least for the man in this video.

There is often some kind of soft gap between vowels and consonants, which is not very typical for native speakers (like Ъ or Ь)

Should sound like инocтpaнeц Inostranets
The guys says инocтpaнЬeц Inostran'ets
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>>201656469
>and other middle easterners
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>>201656494
They're all picturing the same Chad-type doing all these hobbies, it means nothing.
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>>201656610
Both are memes, but at least most people know how silesian sounds like (mostly to make fun of it) and some words (because its mostly german vocab), unlike kashubian which might as well be an alien language and at best people know that it exists and nothing more.
Also post that silesian text
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>>201656494
I've slept with American girls because of French.
I've never slept with a French girl. I figure they just aren't into asians in the same way.
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>>201656610
what was the text?
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>>201658775
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>>201656494
>reading
only if you read shit like harry potter
>foreign languages
>>201656766 this.
>swimming
Oh, you're into swimming? Name every pond
I doubt women are into 'swimming', rather they're into swimmers' bodies
>Astronomy
Astrology* fify
>Archery
>Blacksmithing
Lmao, you forgot to put fencing there as well
>Traveling
Means you have tons of money and are able to travel, so yeah, women into that.
>/lang/ bros, tell me all about the language pussy youve been getting
Literally zero. Null. Hoль.
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>>201656494
Back then I started learning Russian, I said 'Tы пpeкpacнa' to a Russian woman. She instantly gave her Instagram account. Yeah after that there's no other reasons to learn russian furthermore
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>>201658834
??, bo
??
zaraz będzie ciemno
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>>201658933
>cima = ciemno
jak wiedziałeś?
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>>201658834
I live 50km from Silesia/Katowice and I also don't really understand it
I mean I would say it means
>Lie down, because I'm turning the light off
But
>Zarozki bydzie cima
Probably
>It will be dark soon
But "zarozki" could be "zarazki" and "cima" could be "ćma". It's really weird
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>>201659036
to jest poduszka, na samej górze jest księżyc więc pewnie jest noc, skoro jest noc to jest ciemno - cima a ciemno jest dość podobne i pasuje do tematyki
lygej bo gasza pewnie znaczy coś "idź spać, bo gaśnie (światło)", ale lygej jest kompletnie niezrozumiałe dla mnie i nie podobne do niczego polskiego
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>>201659391
Lygej bo gasza
Leżaj (kładź się) bo gaszę
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Superpowers using obscure minority languages to encrypt messages is kino.
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>>201656494
Reading and writing could be easily covered with kinda 'language learning', you guys know
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>>201659567
What's the best language for this unironically?
Ideally:
>not too many speakers
>not much in the way of AI translation if possible
>not closely related with bigger languages
>enough resources and people exist for a dedicated person to learn it
>lesser-known script might be preferable. you might want to obscure names or words that are commonly known around the world (places)
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>>201659887
Ironically Korean
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>>201659887
Something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botlikh_language
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>>201659887
Depending on where you live, public institutions and private (bookstore chains) have some sort of quota to represent Indigenous languages. You go to the bookstore and there are several textbooks and dictionaries on Cree, but sometimes not even one on a major world language like Polish. The local library also apparently has in-person Cree programs in addition to books.
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>>201656494
I spend hours reading and learning languages everyday. I'm still a khv, I don't understand why people keep sharing this stupid survey.
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>>201660186
Cree has almost as many language materials on tracpac as Polish does.
The problem is I guess you'd be in the area where a stranger is most likely to understand the language. But it would work abroad for sure.
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>>201660417
Definitely Korean women don't like a Korean man learning Japanese. Might get mixed feeling about learning other European languages other than English.
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E assim, de repente, um dos meus fontes de input morreu
Não diria que twitter era um fonte bom ou que usei frequentemente para ler coisas brasileiras, mas agore é acabou
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>>201660615
(Korean) women are dumb. I went on a date or two with one and she obviously was not attracted to my ELITE and PATRICIAN hobbies.
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>>201660709
https://youtu.be/kgq4AeUpafg

I worship white angels in our country
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>>201661106
If Korean women are evil, white women are demons from the 9th ring of hell
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>>201654756
does it exist?
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>>201576822
Just learning Swedish. I found that using German grammer is much closer than trying to learn Swedish while using English. Are there good resources which teach Swedish - German?
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>>201584784
Don't give up bro. I know people who can use it just after 2-3 years. Very oftenly the grammer is daunting, but in real-life it's not a big thing if you make tiny mistakes. People will understand you and its fine.
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>>201661621
keine Ahnung, favä, men ställ gärna frågor
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>>201661411
Arabic vidya will be hard to find because these chads don't play that baby crap at home. Your best bet is finding a fan translation which might involve existing Arabic skills to be able to search for it.
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>>201584784
they have interesting literature, film and music
my experience there was nice, although I stayed mostly in the south: Bayern and Baden-Württemberg
people tend to behave differently online, so it's something to consider
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>>201661621
Thank me later
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>>201662124
Tack så mycket!
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>>201662124
>Kalmar castle
based
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My textbook asks me to write texts to be corrected by a native speaker (i.e. Chat-GPT). I was pretty good at these, but the exercise on writing a biography of a famous Pole was somehow the hardest yet.
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I've reached 30 hours of French studies and I still can't read literature. I can only read really simple books or news (using a dictionary). This is so fucking frustrating, sometimes I feel like I will never be good enough...
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>>201666860
>30 hours
That's nice, but I would strangle you to death if you said that to my face
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>>201666860
>30 hours
So a month at an hour a day, or less time still, and you expect to be able to read complex literature? Temper your expectations, frérot.
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>>201659887
Very obsure sythetic language with a lot of cases, slight tones/similar sounds, and figure of speech and metaphorical sayings.
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>>201656494
>read, know a foreign lang, and play guitar
>last had sex in 2016
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The man who narrated Google Maps GPS directions in Polish DESERVES A RAISE and should win an award for the clearest, best GPS voice ever. I'm not being sarcastic. I understand this more than the English GPS voice unironically. I've never heard someone speak so loud and clear in my life. It's... beautiful.
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>>201656766
The difference between when I tell a chick I am learning French vs German is hilarious. It is often literally written on their face. French is romantic and suave where as German is associated with autistic incels and we wuz prussian racists.
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>>201666860
good. i'm sick of portuguese speakers claiming they can understand french without any studying
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i just found out through wiki's front page that today is romanian language day
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>>201667402
Be honest. Are you good looking? How are your social skills?
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>alveolar nasal consonant
>near-close near-front unrounded vowel
>voiced velar plosive consonant
>rhotacized mid central vowel
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>>201623022
naagiza viatu katika internet
Unapaswa kukata nywele yako
Inafadhaika sana, hatuwezi kupata mahali panapofaa kwa ajili ya safari ya kampeni mwezi ujao.
sijui maneno kuhusu bia katika kiswahili
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>>201667979
heh
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should've just let this thread die so i can make a new one
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>>201662762
Assimil always wins
>>201666860
Try 1000 hours LOL
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>>201667704
>Tfw everyone where I live speaks English and French and it's even common for people to know 4 languages
Can't even impress the foids with french
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>>201670784
where are you from?
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How is the Polish GPS man's voice and pronunciation so perfect? It's so clear that you will understand it without knowing any Polish. You can make out every single phoneme and nuance of pronunciation so easily. How is it possible?
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>>201580709
no one wants to be black lmao
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>>201671850
i saw it
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>>201671930
if you live in a blacklisted area by janny you may need to wait 5 minutes to delete it
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how do you say i love poland in your TL
Napenda polandi
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>>201671986
j'aime la pologne.
我爱波兰 (wǒ ài bōlán).
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Kocham Polskę
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гaи peтapд
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You have to learn one language for every human race (including an additional from your own race). What are your choices?
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crazy how back in the day people had to go live in they TL countries. now anyone can learn a language over the internet in they homes. man...
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>>201672385
There's only one race, the human race
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>>201672449
and yet so few do or just fool around on duo
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>>201672919
i'm trans btw
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>>201672971
doesn't seem very relevant to language learning...
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>>201576822
>>201576951
>>201580709
I'm fucking dying. One of the few times I can say I'm glad I opened 4chan
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>>201673041
we are all transitioning into a different language, we are all trans here
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>>201584784
You must understand that we as people got so buck-broken that the only thing were are still allowed to do is to autistically focus on work and obey the government. The only rare instance a german is allowed to let loose is to discipline a fellow german when he sees a transgression. The stories you sometimes hear about getting your trash searched by the neighbour are very real.
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russian is kicking my ass. ive been at it for a few months now and i still cant even read a book for children without a translator open. feels good when i somehow stumble through a sentence though.
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>>201599855
I'm a bong but here goes:

Son perros súper endogámicos que sirven como una especie de estafa pyramidal de la calle. Se compran los perros para cruzarlos y venderlos a otra gente igual de subnormal pero la verdad es que se mueren muy rápido por lo jodidos que están.

If someone can tell me how to make that sound more natural I'd appreciate it, I'm studying for the C2 exam :-3
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Ive been studying german for 3 years.
All the vocabulary still looks the same to me
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>>201672385
>African
Portuguese
>Caucasoid
Basque
>NE Asian
Korean
>Arctic
Cree
>American
Spanish
>SE Asian
Cantonese
>Pacific Islander
French
>Oceanian
English
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I need your strongest Mandarin eurobeat
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>>201674142
Vielleicht liegt Sprachenlernen dir einfach nicht und es ist an der Zeit, einen anderen Zeitvertreib zu finden? Ich habe kein solches Problem bei Deutsch aber zugegebenermaßen habe ich eine ähnliche frustrierende Erfahrung gemacht, als ich Russisch zu lernen versucht habe. Ich konnte ein Wort von dem anderen kaum unterscheiden. Würde sagen, dass vielleicht dein Problem an der Zeit liegt, aber drei Jahre sollten dafür ausreichen, sich daran zu gewöhnen.
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Done with my Duolingo lessons for today.
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>>201675149
Ha. Good meme, fellow /lang/er!
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>>201675149
congrats now you can start learning a language
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>>201675049
i can read this fine, it doesn't change the fact that the words look the same
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>>201675278
Never gets old :)
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>>201675049
Anner Spraakvarianten, wo dat Plattdüütske, sünd sowieso överleggen. Vööl mackelker, wenn ik erhrelk bün.
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>>201675591
I knew an annoying gay american guy in China who did.
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>>201675591
I spent a week learning Turkish
All I remember is that the g in Erdogan is pronounced as a vowel
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>>201675886
No, just a nobody I used to go to school with. Xiaomanyc is a moron. This guy was a moron too but at least capable with languages. He was conversationally fluent in very many with a thick burger accent and small vocabulary. He never read books and made fun of people who did.
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>>201676076
Honestly, I think about this guy's method a lot. I guess it's a matter of priorities: he was uncultured and functionally illiterate to begin with, and became fluent to that same level in about a dozen languages. I guess that's a pretty low-hanging fruit if you have that kind of confidence in yourself and that kind of priorities. I'd like to be able to speak more naturally more quickly like he did, but then I tend to prefer to speak about things more interesting and involving a slightly higher word count than partying and sex and drinking and idle gossip.
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>>201676076
>He was conversationally fluent in very many with a thick burger accent and small vocabulary. He never read books and made fun of people who did.
Extremely based, most langcels will never get even close to his level
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>>201677143
Legitimately. He'd go from zero to being deep in animated conversation with vapid party girls remarkably quickly. I wish I could replicate his method, but not the parts that involved hanging out in McDonald's drinking soju all day then speeding off on a moped to go have sex with men.
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>>201576822
are you sure this will help me learn spanish?
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>>201678199
Just ten more years and you'll hit B1 no problem.
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>>201677777
CHALLENGE
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>>201678520
fajnie ale chyba chciałeś to zapostować na jego subreddicie ziom
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>>201678230
burgers???
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>>201678199
Piotr i Filip mają dużą rodzinę. Czy chciałbyś ich poznać?
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>>201678671
Wczoraj pierwszy raz Ksawery mnie pocałował. Już jestem szaleńczo zakochany!
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>>201678230
Jeszcze tylko dziesięć lat i dasz radę to zdać B1, nie ma sprawy.
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>>201661974
alright, thanks. are you the chad of /lang/? you seem to have knowledge on many languages
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>>201661974
>>201678917
Czemu nie zapytasz na /mena/? Oni wiedzieliby gdzie znaleźć takie gry. Przecież Polak na /int/ pokazał mi stronę z polskimi tłumaczeniami gier Pokémon. Jednak chyba nie ma arabskich tłumaczeń z powodu pisania od prawej do lewej.
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>>201679029
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>>201679045
B&W Myth Wukong
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>>201679222
This cheap Chinese-developed game about Poland sucks. What most reviews fail to mention, thoughever, is that it's riddled with historical inaccuracies.
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>>201675049
Deine Probleme mit der russischen Sprache können sich auch auf einen Zeitmangel zurückführen.
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>>201679042
pokemon green
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he was banned just like he said he would, a true prophet
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>>201679122
I feel like you post this pepe all the time (it is a good pepe thought)

>>201679409
definitiv. Ich bedauere es immer noch, dass ich mit dem Lernen davon so schnell aufgeben habe. Wenn ich mich daran richtig erinnere, halte ich es nur ein paar Monate durch, bevor ich kapituliert habe. Meiner Meinung nach existiert eine Schwelle ungefähr bei der Jahresmarke oder so, wo man so viel dringesteckt hat, dass man generell nicht mehr damit aufgeben wird oder das Aufgeben zumindest äußerst unwahrscheinlich wird. Hab mehrmals die Lust darauf gehabt, Französisch fallen zu lassen, aber ich habe durchgehalten und jetzt kommt mir so vor, als hätte ich zu irgendeinem Zeitpunkt in den letzten paar Monaten diese oben genannte Schwelle endlich überquert.
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我想吃萝卜
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-Plattdutsch
-Dutch
-Mongolian

Which one bros
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>>201680784
My vote would be for Dutch for access to learning resources, similarity to English, and access to native speakers. What are your goals with this language
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>>201680420
对。萝卜很好吃。



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