Read the updated DJT guide before asking how to learn Japanese: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/ Old guide for those afraid of change: https://djtguide.github.io/ Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains. Previous thread: >>47744490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdPgdmeqij4
>>47756668Is it a bug or cheatcode in the game?
>>47756691https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7TNHdvVd4Qthis is just how the game is
全部取る! ! ! !
>>47756719I'll buy 10 copies
>>47756668dame
how does 品性の足りん輩は因縁のつけ方にも品がないのう mean "Those lacking in character don't even have class in the way they pick fights"??
>>47757049品性の足りん輩は Those lacking in character因縁のつけ方にも also in the way they pick fights品がないのう have no class
>>47757049"品性の足りん輩" means "people lacking in character" :3 品性 (hinshou) = character/dignity 足りん (tarin) = lacking 輩 (yatsu) = people (kinda rude way to say it)"因縁のつけ方" is about picking fights! :o 因縁 (innen) = grudge/quarrel つけ方 (tsukekata) = way of attaching/starting"品がない" means "no class" or "lacking refinement" >w<"のう" is just a casual ending, like "y'know?" :3so when we put it all together, it's saying that people who don't have good character (品性の足りん輩) also don't have class (品がない) in the way they start fights (因縁のつけ方). it's like saying mean people are mean in everything they do, even when they're being mean! rawr! :pthe connection is all about lacking quality in both personality and actions. it's a bit of wordplay too, using 品 (hin) twice to emphasize the lack of class. clever, huh? :3
Is it okay if I combine cards in the anki core decks or is it bad practice?For example 家,後,方,やる,上がる I could go on; same writing, different reading or use.
Ah, for fuck's sake. Why is 最後尾 saikoubi and not saigobi?
>>47757129Take your meds, you're not making any sense.
>>47757067>>47757072where does innen even relate to quarrel/grudge. gpt said the same shit, but my dictionaries dont have that.
>>47757176https://jisho.org/search/%E5%9B%A0%E7%B8%81%E3%82%92%E3%81%A4%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B
>>47757176owo oopsie! you're right to question that! (>_<)let's dig deeper into 因縁 (innen), shall we? :3因縁 usually means:>karma or fate>cause and effect>a deep connection or relationshipbut! in casual speech, it can be used to mean:4. a pretext or excuse (for starting trouble)5. a complicated situation or entanglementso while it doesn't directly mean "quarrel" or "grudge", it's often used in contexts where people are looking for reasons to start fights or create problems. (；￣Д￣)in this case, "因縁をつける" (innen wo tsukeru) is an idiom meaning "to pick a fight" or "to find fault with someone". it's like creating a "karmic connection" as an excuse to start trouble! sneaky, right? :psorry for the confusion earlier! thanks for catching that, you're so smart! ^_^
uwu gpt
>>47757189lol this is actually a thing
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nkU1s7y_mco
>>47756950https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP1s-V5l3hg
>>47757185>>47757182your gpt is cancer but knowing 因縁をつける exists is exactly what i needed to see. thanks
Passive listening is surely the key right It’s what will take a 6 month nobody into a 2 year god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FCTxl0ICFA
plap plap plap
できないにんげんだ、私
>>47757338this video almost made me report it to yt
>>47757072>輩 (yatsu)ahhh caught in 4ki knew you werent native
>御身>yet another you pronounjapanese has more real pronouns than we have fake genders
>>47757755you didnt even notice 品性? caught in n5vocaroo this
>>47757871i was skimming
>>47758289copehow about that vocaroo unko?
Anyone got some good vocab deck recommendations. I was thinking of trying Core 2k/6k but hear conflicting things, I hear Kaishi 1/5k is good to start with and then just go to Core but I wanna get a second opinion. Any deck recommendations?
>>47758371kaishi, don't over complicate it. kaishi was made this year and is more geared towards anime and visual novels
I preferred the images from the old core decks, that's about the only flaw with Kaishi
i never looked at kaishi because the last time i did core decks was years agobut everyone being stuck on beginner decks is very like this thread
also personally I'm going to skip the core decks entirely when I'm done with Kaishi, and just split my new cards between my mining deck and a JLPT Tango N3 deck since I want to take the test
>>47758363ill make one later
Kaishi seems better honestly and my first deck was the core 2k/6k one.
i feel a bit retarded, where do you find visual novels legally? where the fuck am i supposed to buy them exactly? i tried steam but all the visual novels there are english interface, which is weird as fuckalso anyone learned through visual novels? i wanna know how effective it is really
>>47758480>legallylol
>>47758480>legallyjust get a VPN bro
>>47758480>also anyone learned through visual novels? i wanna know how effective it is reallydude they're basically books or whatever. yea you can learn from them.
>>47758458somehow i doubt you will ever make a new vocaroo again>>47758447you dont even speak japanese
>>47758480why cant you buy nekopara and change it to japanese?
I can't stand VNs, whenever I try and sit through one I just end up wishing I was either playing a real video game or reading a real book
>>47758518who asked?
>>47758513>you dont even speak japaneseno that's not trueyou can say i don't speak it will, which is probably truebut you can't say i don't speak japanese, you could drop me in japan right now and i wouldn't have an issue communicating what i want to communicate, it's not such a big dealand i wager after a few months of me speaking i would be indistinguishable from those hyper normies spending 10 years constantly interacting in japanese, it's really a lack of practice and lack of 'need' for me
>>47758507>>47758511if there's no other way i'll do the other way but i prefer to own that kinda thing legally first if possible you knowjust seems like a lot of shit im interested in requires you, if you wanna have it legally, to have an actual physical copy imported to you which is just not feasible. that or im plain retarded, which is likely too>>47758512just wanting first hand experience thats all>>47758514i guess nekopara is one exception surei was hoping to read something else than pure moe though its just not my thing
>>47758480DMM is a popular one, there's a bunch more too of course but I forget their names. Not sure why you'd care if the interface is English or not, that hardly matters. There's a decent amount of games on Steam that have Japanese text. I'm only probably low intermediate skill level but I've learned exclusively by reading vns pretty much so I'd say it works fairly well.>>47758511Also just do as this anon says.
>>47758447hey qm. the amount i mine a day right now is way more than my new card daily limit. should i be letting this backlog increase or should i be trying to clear my back log asap and keeping up with my newly added cards?
>>47758522>but you can't say i don't speak japanese, you could drop me in japan right now and i wouldn't have an issue communicating what i want to communicate, it's not such a big deal>and i wager after a few months of me speaking i would be indistinguishable from those hyper normies spending 10 years constantly interacting in japanese, it's really a lack of practice and lack of 'need' for mecope
>>47758529honestly doesn't really matter, i wouldn't even bother thinking about itjust do a reasonable amount of cards in a day and you're good, mine as much as you want
>>47758526Though on second thought is it DMM who has that softdenchi DRM that I think can get in the way of texthooking without workarounds, might not be a good idea due to that.
>>47758526i said interface but yeah i was thinking japanese text, for some reason i typed "interface" my badit's just weird that steam does not have the option to switch to japanese for a lot of visual novelsi saw some games have a fan japanese patch for the game but i don't know how dodgy the patch is, as in if it's the original text or whatever, again i'd rather get the real deal if possible>>47758537eh i can still use ocr if shit goes wrong but yeah that's annoyingi'll check these sites out, it's just needlessly annoying for something that could be easily fixed
>>47758534nta, but when you were mining how did you determine if a word was worth mining? would you mine super rare words, or only words that were somewhat common
>>47757755>>47758289>>47758458fake mewotd 気持ちが悪い>>47743739
wonder if its the janny whos salty that he got his privileges removed
>>47758544You just want to check the Steam page, see if it has a checkbox for I think "subtitles" next to Japanese. If it says that you should be able to switch to Japanese in game. I've never messed with patching in Japanese like that. I just checked my steam library and I'm surprised at the amount of vns that don't support Japanese. There's still plenty that do though. Nekopara, Wagamama High Spec, Chaos;Head, Chaos;Child, Little Busters, to name a few do support it.
just use your jap gfs credit card to buy the vinnies
>>47758588yeah my complaint isn't that there's none, just that i go to vndb, check something that seems interesting, then i go to steam and there's only english text. then you try searching for japanese copies but you can't find them legally. it's just annoying.at this point installing some random emulator and getting a rom might be much easier than actually owning the game which is really fucking sad
why are his eyes so soulless
>>47758700he fight
any niggers?
>>47758680it never amazes me how so many dekirus who spent 2 straight years grinding anki come out and say anki doesn't matter have acquiring 99% of their vocab from it.
>>47758765it's true though, i wouldn't use anki if i had to learn japanese again
>it never amazes me
>>47758778sry been a long day anon :(
>>47758775you should try learning japanese for the first time before you say that.
>>47758786It's all good bro it was my 'tism that's all
feel free to vocaroo if you want to act coolso far its only been me
with google ime i have to use tab to type 誤解. If i use space it makes the 2nd kanji 貝 and cycles over all the possible ごs. Am I doing something wrong? Basically every other word I can just cycle to with space
hovertards out
speed hover chads unite
google ime is not foss
willing to bet most people here cant even use 10key swipe
黒板のこの漢字が読めますかあの子の心象は読めますかその心を黒く染めたのはおい誰なんだよ おい誰なんだよ
>>47758863matt said that was the expert method
>>47758869cringe
>>47758871https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQrwTX5ErzMhonestly this would be nice to have
>doujin has furigana for simple words like gamanummm wtf is this supposed to be read by miseinens LMAO
gooners are illiterate
>>47758480>i wanna know how effective it is reallyanything works. you'll forget most uncommon words like 頽れる, 噎ぶ, 逗留, 静謐, etc. unless you write them down and review them, just like you can't expect English speakers to remember stuff like 'cogitate'
lol
a soon as I figure out how to use this PC-98 emulator I'm gonna be immersing so fuckin hard
頽れる this has to be motareru噎ぶ musebu ez逗留 yea no idea静謐 seihi, seihitsu one of them
>>47759046damn i was so sure about 頽れる
How the fuck can I play an eroge and hover at the same timeI have one hand on my cock and one on my mouse to click the text forward and Maybe a side mouse button bindThis is a serious question
>>47759056I use the 'page forward' button on my mouse, I have it rebound to shift.
>>47759045nekoproject2 is the best onedrop these files in the folder you have it inhttps://retro-type.com/PC98/files/BIOS/PC98Ce2-model-S2D-Bios/Backup-of-Ce2-Bios/Backup-of-Ce2-Bios/Extracted%20Bios%20Files/PC9821-Ce2-S2D-Bios-MKBIOS/
>>47758765i hate drones who parrot others' opinions on-demand. that anki does get the ball rolling by priming vocabulary in your brain, but it's not the comprehensive one-stop language-learning solution ankidrones make it out to be>cards won't teach you word usage (e.g. for きっかけ, おける, を皮切りに, etc.)>cards don't explain the differences between similar words (拒否する, 却下する, 拒む, 拒否, etc.)>cards won't teach you to write or make out the runes. you have to learn the stroke order rules, take advantage of radicals, keisei moji, etc.>you will still want to use dictionaries to look up words and runes, etymology, etc. as needednot to mention that some cards are badly made: 上. is it うえ as in up? うえ as in 私が上? じょう as in the best? じょう as in the suffix attached to nouns (e.g. 安全上)? かみ as in お上?
>>47759069you're retarded. Anki is for memorizing vocab. That's it. No one argues it's a "comprehensive one-stop language-learning solution" that's just cope you retards made by letting us ankichads live rent free in your (tiny) brains. Eat cock.
I truly don’t want to do my immersion todayI just can’t find it in me
>>47759069shitty bait
>>47759075>wow construct and build are synonyms!>wait wtf why did he say construct an argument and not build an argument? why do you build a house and not construct one? I thought they were synonyms!ankidrones, suffering from terminal brain damage, are unable to answer
>>47759056loli on lap to free up hand
I moved to Kuala Lumpur to be close to japan they have these don don donkey stores here and that’s where I do all my shopping and food, Is this Emersion?
kuala lumpa deez nuts
>>47759075damn you owned that retard
>>47759090why not just move to japan wtf
I actually do use anki as a one stop solution, I use a python script to split anime subtitles, ebooks, and visual novel scripts into sentences then make an anki card for each sentence. Then I simply consume the media as an anki deck.
>>47759099matt said he did this and he acquired a lot
>save up enough to go to and stay in japan for 3 months alternatively acquire working holiday visa>find japanese wife>spousal visa一石二鳥
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsv77Op07Xklyrics go really hard
I'm as much of a shrek fan as the next guy but that version just doesn't sound all that great.
Every single night I start my immersion well last 11pm like right now and end up staying up early the next morning finishing it with lots of pausing cause I’m tired only to go to bed at like 3 am get 5 hours sleep and feel like shit the next dayAnd I just cannot stop doing this destructive behavior
十人十色
>>47759090pathetic
回
>>47759099this sounds actually insane. why not just read the book instead? I mean if it works for you then go for it, but damn
>>47759150>十 (じゅう)>十 (と)Man...
>>47759178I wanna have sex with the ninth one nine times :)
is it possible for jap games to reach this level of soul or no
>>47759260its inherently soulless if its japanese
>>47759260花子ちゃん火傷してない？ :o
why can't we have a crowd sourced actual good j-e dictionary that explains what the words mean
７８９４５６１２３１進撃の巨人２宇宙よりも遠い場所３四月は君の嘘４蟲師５けものフレンズ６メイドインアビス７Ｄｒ．ＳＴＯＮＥ８のんのんびより９グレンラガンこんな感じでＪＳＬ初心者アニメ紹介したら１個か２個は当たりがあると思う
>>47759352its called jmdict
>>47759378jmdict doesn't explain them it just lists translations
>>47759374打順よくわからん四番サードがええのんか？ (´・ω・`)
>>47759381how much more explanation do you need?
>>47759388lots
>>47759391ngmi
>>47759386殿堂入りたとえばドラゴンボールセーラームーン銀魂などは外して短くて強い系を集めた蟲師はよわかったかーあたしは好きなんだけど
>>47759446普通にランキングじゃダメなの？ 野球わからん('､3_ヽ)＿
>>47759352>crowd sourced actual good j-e dictionarythe closest I've seen is wordreference's dictionaries, and it's still full of holes depending on the word. say for spic you won't find>a translation of important phrases like "personal a cargo" (supervisory responsibility for subordinate staff)>liability (responsabilidad means responsibility, it doesn't cut it as we're talking about whose head will roll when things go south, not just who has to get things done)>even disclaimer's translation is iffy (descargo de responsabilidad, renuncia de responsabilidad. actual warranties may also use limitación de responsabilidad, or even aviso legal (legal notice), sometimes together with the former)
speaking of dictionaries, is there a good j->j dictionary for learners? Something like Simple English Wikipedia but for Japanese words would be awesome. Whenever I try to use a JP dictionary I wind up in an endless loop of looking up words in the definitions.
>>47759555just set your sub yomichan to only have english definitions
>>47759192ankidrones can't fathom enjoying things normally
>>47759461売上ランキングだとしょうもないのが入ってくるよ
>>47758447it looks like that because only beginners use decks
>>477596171〜9だと打順だと思うじゃん？ 素直に上から並べよ？ :/
I've been learning Japanese for four years at a slow pace—2 hours of weekly lessons. It's fun, but I want to improve faster. I don't have the discipline to study on my own, though I do consume a lot of Japanese media, so I get daily exposure but lack real-world practice.I'm around N4 level, with listening and vocab as my strengths. My reading and writing are okay with a dictionary or grammar check, but my grammar isn't spontaneous, especially in polite or complex conversations. When in Japan, I often get "jouzu’d," but I play it off.I'm shifting to a career in a field connected to Japan and think improving my Japanese would boost my job prospects—not aiming for N1/N2, just a solid working level better than someone who only takes weekly classes.I'm considering a 3 to 6-month trip to Japan for language school. I know I won't become fluent, but I think it would help make future trips and interactions more meaningful. I'd love to hear from people who’ve done similar courses and their pros/cons. I'm committed to this but also second-guessing myself at times. Thanks!
>>47759658ngmi
>>47759658nipon go jouzu desu ne! :O
>>47758800>with google ime google ime is proprietary malware, we don't endorse it in this thread see https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/google-or-microsoft-ime
>>47759657ふつうにテンキーだよでも９はグレンラガンでいけるよね
>>47759696>グレンラガンBest10のうち9位なら大したもんだ( ˘ω˘)ｳﾑｯ
we should have a djt meetup in yomitan village
ヨーコがキスすると相手が斃ぬというネットミームは濡れ衣だとおもうよ画像検索でヨーコの頭より下は完全にセンシティブ扱いになってて草
>>47759056you can enable hovering on middle mouse button in yomichan settingsi don't play nukige but i'm too lazy to have my other hand on the kb anyway
i put english-english dictionaries in my yomitan because i realized i don't even know english
Is anyone using jidoujisho to read epub files?I'm not sure if one of the app updates broke something (not that there have been any in quite some time), or maybe an Android update, but I can't click any words. It just flashes the whole screen instead. BUT if I click the bottom row once (to show/hide the progress), I can select exactly one word before it stops working again.
>>47760025just use tutu reader in kiwi browser. that's what they use in the app anyway
>>47759658You're delusional if you're aiming at anything other than N1. It's the bare minimum, as a matter of fact you should be aiming for much higher. Why do you think that 98% of white people in Japan are either working in an English environment (most likely alt/eikaiwa) AND need to consistently have their japanese wives be their personal assistant/caretaker for every miniscule task that involves japanese?Never settle, always improve.
ヨーコは首から下はセンシティブいわれてみれば常に半裸だった
>>47758371Just google random 1 or 2 There is no better option
still cant believe im the only one whos posted vocaroos on here proving my skill while everyone else pretends to be good
>>47760347温泉回やばい(*´ｪ`*)
i've never pretended to be good. i only started 8 months ago
have you ever at any time given someone on here advice?
i know jack shit sir i can give the advices
>>47760574for the beginner stages yes. i think people that have learned for years forget the early struggles that a beginner faces especially the first 3 months or so.
unless you are a phd, were born to asian parents and consumed a million of hours of vinnies, dont give advice ok?
>>47760651vocaroo
>>47760667vocaroo
vocaroo
>>47760675not how that works
shut up fake
>>47760697weak bait cope harder
ok mb
i wanna man
what advice is there even to give outside rattatta guide. just consoom crack bucko and the japanese will come
ngmis always come up with more ways to ngmi
なんで酉付けないの？ :3
you're treating japanese as if it were some complex field of mathematics that requires a lot of brainpower to comprehend. anons have become fluent by simply watching vtubers. it just requires perseverance and not using completely inefficient methods
just get a jp gf that will translate everything for you and wants to learn english
>>47760751vocaroo
>>47760778vocaroo
>>47760751there hasnt been 1 vshitter here whos proven they know japanese
my failed words today
>>47758534whats a reasonable amount? i do 15.
>>47759084you just explained a common mistake people will have hundreds of times regardless if they use anki or not, but attributed it to anki use. the mindstate of anti-ankis ladies and gentlemen
my successful words today
>>47761251nani?!
>>47761236what is a thesaurus?
>>47761278建立(こんりゅう)
>>47761327do you really think you're smarter than a dictionary?
how many more days will this guy pretend to be online forhe has been doing it over hours every single day for almost 2 weeks草生える
>>47761647pretend to be me online lol
酉割れてるなら新しいのに換えてね？ :3
dang u hate to see it u guys have fallen to the point that ull keep posting in a tattymoto opped thread ahahah
>>47761764are there dekirus in discord immigration? :3
>>47761505>thinks dictionaries are the be-all-end-all
>>47761741俺の名前を勝手に付けてるだけや最初から決まってトリップ付けて書き込んでたら良かった
>>47762039酉でトリップとわかる辺り本物だね( ˘ω˘)ｳﾑｯ
シャンパン has an 当て字, crazy
>>47758551i would pretty much mine everything, i wouldn't pay attention to what is rare and what isn't, just mine whatever you feel like>>47761134yeah that's fine if you keep it up long term
>>47762194何目指してん？>>47762276how many new cards a day did you do for your writing deck?
>>47762291can't really give a meaningful amount of cards i did because i completed each level as i made it and then took pretty long breaks before i was ready to make the next level
>>47762276how many did you do per day? not a beginner, just curious because ur site says 20 but it always sounded like u did way more than that
>>47762300ah okbtw is there a reason behind the order the new cards show up?thats the one i would change a little
how is 15 words fine? Especially when youre just starting. An average anime cour is 2500 words, that is more than 166 days (almost half a year) before you did every word at least once.
well yea when ur just starting u should do quite a few maybe until like 5-10k but after a point it doesnt rly matter too muchoften when u have a large backlog when u get to some words u just already picked them up anyway and can pass it straight away
>>47762374why do only retarded niggas say cour
>>47762406>when u get to some words u just already picked them up anyway and can pass it straight awayso delete the card :p
>>47762432i would on the old algo but fsrs i sometimes keep them
>>47762347well if you average it out i did way less than 20most of the time i did 20 a daysometimes i did more, sometimes i did long times of zero new cardsbut if you calculate it 15 cards a day for a year is like 5,5k cards, do this for three years and you have a very good base especially because you consumed so much content to get those cards so i think it's fine, you just have to be consistentbesides you pick up a lot of words without anki too, so your actual vocab will be larger than you think>>47762374what? this makes no sense
>>47762475ah thats interesting i always assumed u were the jazzy oziman type 40-50 a day over a few months type shithow long were u spending per day on it with the new cards and without? again not a beginner just like comparing other experiences to my own>but if you calculate it 15 cards a day for a year is like 5,5k cards, do this for three years and you have a very good baseyea i agree w this u should update the site when u get the time i think ppl would benefit from the tips
honestly have barely any memories of doing anki apart from doing the second half of rtk 100 new cards a dayreally sacrificed my whole hs education for this
>>47762513yeah i think my advice is more real and usable because i'm not a crazy autist sacrificing his life in pursuit of japanese and i'm not a super genius with a photographic memory, but pretty average all around and accomplishing other things in life like getting a degree and getting married and doing things in real lifethe point i make is even if you're busy and don't want to sacrifice your life wholly you can still learn japanese, you just have to be smart about itdo a sensible card format + review method through which you can get quickly (not sentence cards), consume high quality (j-subbed anime mainly) content you enjoy, do a reasonable but not overwhelming amount of cards a daysure a case study of mr. super autism doing 200 cards a day and reading 12 hours is interesting but ultimately not really useful to most people because they're not going to replicate that but they can replicate a reasonable amount of cards and time invested
>>47762475>i would pretty much mine everythingwould you also mine variations of the same thing? eg. 待つｖｓ待たせる 預かるvs預ける. things like 僭越ながら vs just 僭越, and compounds like お見えになる or お目にかかる. shit, while im at it, did you mine grammar constructions as words, too? shit like てのこと, さては, の極み, にもまして etc
>>47762572uh no i wouldn't mine those things, there's really no need to eitheryou should mine things you don't understand, maybe conjugations confuse you at the start but long term it's not an issuei suppose if you're making good cards and it helps you understand there's no issue with mining those thingsso go ahead and make cards if it helps, use the hint field, long term you'll see yourself making less of those kind of cards though and you can think about resetting your deck later, think that's a smart thing to do
anki is good for “learning” kanji readingsthe rest can be done just by immersing anki being more effective is literally bro science peddled by people who do not know japanese
>>47762593people reset decks? can't imagine building up to 15k or something then just dumping it again to start over. then again, i'm not at that point so i wouldn't know either. i always assumed once people get to a point they just start slowly deleting cards.
>>47762291>何目指してん？What do you mean? Just learning Japanese like everyone else.
>>47762565yeah this is all good shit i agree completelyand for me also japanese was the thing that made me do better in my real life because it taught me proper discipline, so moving away from ajatt mind virus was an overall positive even if it slowed me down a little in my gainsi get that ur a busy guy but this stuff should for sure go on ur site, i think it would be very helpful especially with new youtubers popping up here and there muddying the water with stupid shit (that livekivi guy is quite popular and is recommending sentence cards and other dumb shit, and there was some new youtuber that popped up recently too with a million views or something like that)
>>47762631well maybe it's not 100% logical but my thinking is that you probably do accumulate a more than a few useless cards and review load as you progress and even if you suspend your entire deck, the knowledge won't disappearyou're essentially just resetting your review load to zero, keeping all your knowledge, and only mining new things you have trouble with, it's a good thing to do in my opinionin fact i would probably even recommend just suspending all your cards every 10k or so
>>47762658oh, i thought you meant deleting your deck, but you mean suspending you deck.
everyone who does anki should try not doing it for a month
>>47762654idk i don't think anyone reads the site right now anyway, youtube is a more popular medium in the sense that it has more reach and has millions of people addicted to it but i think it's also less effective, realistically i bet less than 0.0001% of people watching these youtube learners will do any of that stuff themselves anyway and even if they do, if they're not stupid they'll figure it out anyway and if they are they probably will fail at japanese no matter what you tell them>>47762692uh well it doesn't make a difference, suspend, delete, you just remove them from your review pile>>47762716i didn't do it in over a year
>>47762725hmm yeah true true u make a good point i suppose the type of person watching recommended youtube videos is not the type to get good at jp or prob any complex skill rly
>>47760667>>47760675>>47760680vocaroo
anyone read actual novels here? seems that side of japanese culture still hasnt really reached the west in the same way anime and shit have so im not sure where to look for simpler reading that isnt a ln or like a book version of an anime to get kids into reading
>>47762725you have to be jewish for a moment and make adhd zoomer youtube shorts that will reach millions of people.anacreon and tats had the right idea, just needs more zoomer energy.
>>47762859those are for nerds
>>47762873its true but its not worth selling ur soul for i mean look at what happened to matto he has money but is clearly still a deeply insecure person and still gets berated here every dayplus as qm says the info will just go in one ear and out the other, certain advice only appeals to certain ppllike u can tell ur retarded friend to stop gambling and even if he understands it he isnt gonna do it 9 times out of 10 lol
How do I memorize that 凄い means すごい (amazing, great)?
>>47762859ive read a bunch but i havent been in the mood テニスボーイの憂鬱 is one i recommendother recs would be コンビニ人間/殺人出産/海辺のカフカ
>>47762885And anime isn’t? Or otaku culture in general?
>>47762873honestly i'm too busy and not motivated to do this right nowmaybe next year though
>>47762925冫 is the radical version of "ice" so maybe imagine yourself ice 冫 skating and ten 十 cute women 女 are watching you. You say "yo" ヨ as you skate by and they all think your moves are amazing/great, so they start fanning themselves and saying "すごい！" just like in one of your Japanese animes
I CANNOT FUCKING READ THE KANJI ON THIS STUPID MOE WAY QUIZIVE BEEN STUDYING FOR HALF A YEAR AND CAN READ DECENT WITHOUT HOVERING BUT THE FONT THEY CHOSE IS SO GODDAMN STUPID
>>47763255ciaran come give this guy a pep talk
>>47763255https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8_Xk0wQfBbjyNhK1XqMQCIj94rZfXdWX
>>47763255whats the font
is there a way to read manga from my seedbox on my phone without downloading it?would like to have stuff available without filling my phones storage
>>47763415just use mega
qm when did you start using monolingual definitions and how long did it take you to start getting comfortable with them
>>47763471i started relatively late, about two years in, you should probably do it earlieras for comfortable, i don't know, never really thought about it much but they become more usable the more you use them so just dive into it asap if it's realistic for you
I’m starting to feel like reading is just way more beneficial for learning the language than listening Now, obviously listening is a skill in and of itself, and I like anime anyway so I won’t stop watching, but reading for multiple hours a week is really what has made me feel like my comprehension has exploded upwards
ingger
wow when qm is here, this place is actually peaceful and on topic.
someone here recommended failure frame and im so offended that i gave ep 1 my time idk what to do with myself
ep 1 is one of the better ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57e-7udTiI0this is why im learning japanese
>>47763693That's a chinese game thoughbeit
yeah but ill play it in japanese
>>47759958>>47759762We stand against the hijack attempt of the (former) Yomichan project by the "moe way" because they promote a flawed and ineffective language learning method which is different from AJATT. Moreover, "moe way" has been a bad actor in the Japanese learning world for a long time, and we can't trust them.I recommend Rikaitan instead. Say "Rikaitan" if you also believe the hijack should not succeed. Rikaitan is the true successor of Yomichan. It's a browser extension that lets you look up words on web pages (a pop-up dictionary). Rikaitan is free/libre software. It is maintained by the AJATT community and everybody can contribute if they want to. https://rikaitan.github.io/
>>47763255>quiz>moe wayyou are retarded if you fall for this garbage
はい
>>47763827I just can’t read it I can do Anki just fine the moeway quiz is all sloppy handwriting
>>47763872post an example
>>47763872 moe way is a Patreon scam run by a turkish tranny. Avoid the TMW D*scord at all costs. It’s filled with imbeciles who lack a solid understanding of Japanese and may steer you towards methods that will slow you down. Instead, join the DJT community here: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/join-our-communityThe DJT community is supported by Tatsumoto's guide to Japanese, which is recognized as the most effective approach to mastering the language. Are you ready to achieve fluency faster than with any other method in the world? If so, the DJT community is the place for you. Read Tatsumoto's guide and connect with like-minded learners who are committed to AJATT and immersion-learning.
>>47763255if you've followed a decent study routine you would've known around 1000 kanjis in that timefucking retard
Well all I want is a resource for light novels in Japanese Does anyone have thatI was reading Mushoku Tensei for a bit but am growing a bit boredAny suggestionsMaybe try Haruhi?
sorry theyre all boring
>>47763938https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/resources#books
>>47763938best i can do is give you a discourse
>>47763948MEGAs are dead but ty anyway
800 cards left on core2.3k, should i switch to kaishi? looks like they have an option to move over your card history so i wouldnt be starting from zero but wondering if its worth
>>47764127no
>>47764127delete all the kana words from core, finish the rest of them and then make your mining deck
>>47764206as in the ones you didnt rep yet
Why are you studying Japanese?
>>47764257for the porn and future jp gf of course.
大事じゃないわけがないじゃないかthe state of this language
>>47764162>>47764206>>47764211ty
what is むっきい?just a sound you make when you're frustrated or something?
>>47764314shut up
>>47764114mega is useless. go to zlibrary.
>>47764314sounds like it
>>47764314Just a random sound the character made to express her frustration. Nothing specific
>>47764257It was a mistake. Shitty country, shitty culture.>>47764127download Ankidrone Foundation: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/jp1k-anki-deckavoid kaishi if you want to learn japanese. it's so horrible i can't even describe it.
>>47764314hehe, you're kinda close! むっきい (mukkii) is like a cute, frustrated sound effect in japanese manga and anime. it's often used to show someone's really annoyed or at their limit. (^_^;)"むっきいー！！もう我慢できない！！", it's like saying "argh! i can't take it anymore!!"it's a way to express that feeling of being super duper frustrated and about to burst! like when you're so done with something and just wanna scream, y'know? (>_<)so yeah, it's not just a random sound, but a specific expression of frustration in japanese pop culture. pretty neat, huh? :3
>>47764355Just a PSA: anything that links to or talks about tatsumoto in a positive light is a bot, so it's okay to ignore it everything in the post
>平素は駿河屋をご利用いただき、誠にありがとうございます。>9/11(水) AM2:00よりサーバーメンテナンスを実施いたします。
>>47764440>tatsumotobased Yeah I'd say out of all japanese learning materials tatsumoto helped me the most.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_UNZ13_6E
>>47764355i tried ankidrone but a lot of the cards were random ateji country names, seemed kinda useless esp for a beginner deck
>>47764484wtf tatsumoto looks like that? also I don't get the hate against him, he has one of the best guides.
>>47764270ez
i'm learning 5 kana a daytried doing all 46 hiragana at the same time but i legit can'tvideogames porn and weed cooked my brain
but videogames are good for the brain
mugi was cute in this chapter
>>47764634that's acceptable speed. after that do 3 kanji per day every day with 3-5 compound words per kanji on top of any verbs, adjectives or adverbs from them and you will be through with joyo kanji in ~2 years. don't forget your grammar, onomatopoeia, idioms, kotowaza, place and people names and last but not least immersion either.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZQTxd9J5-IU
>someone grinds anki for years and gets to N1 using it>"actually guys, anki isn't necessary, actually if I could go back I would use it less!"Why do they do this? They owe their ability directly to Anki. Anki made them, Anki is their father. They need to pay some respect instead of deluding themselves and lying to everyone.
>>47764771
anki is nothing but digital flashcards. it's the most basic ass tool. nobody owns it anything. it doesn't do the work for you.
>>47762291you could've finished the deck in a week at 600 cards/day you fucking bitch boy loser lol
today's immersionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOEWTJbhLVU
>>47764771because the better you get at japanese, the less and less you need it. there also comes a point where most who make it seem forget how much how much of an impact it had on their learning.
>>47764788niggerless vs nigger
only dekinais think a chinese flashtard program has any impact. it's the ultimate scam, a voodoo placebo, crackpot nonsense and max midwittery. inb4 muh isolated studies. stfu retarded flashtard bitch you don't know japanese
who are you talking to
matt used anki tho
to retarded flashtard bitches
>>47764920he said "you don't know japanese" so he was taking to you
>>47764939this kills the flashtard
majiru ? majiru ?
gamanjiru
>>47764963man that was hilarious. he looked like a real fucking idiot there. hard to believe "people" looked up to that clown but that's just how pathetic fatherless ESLs are i guess. good thing most of the trash fucked off to pisscord
in case you need some material to vocaroo
All the fucking light novels on nyaa are PNGsI just want an epub file so I can view the text in html
>>47765142some are shockwave flash
>>47765142>I just want an epub file so I can view the text in htmlthe moeway discord has a library of epubs you just gotta pass the n4 quiz
the truth is that regardless of study method some people will make it and some people won't because most people have no disciplineif you do anki for a psychotic amount of time vs immersion all the time you'll reach the same goal eventually, in a different way, but you'll reach it anywaymost people just give up before reaching that point
wtf man he just lied liek that
giga chad
>>47765194they gate it to n4?
>>47765342iirc dunno for sure i only went there once for an epub i couldnt find anywhere and they had it
>>47765342it was easy I wouldn't worry about it
>>47765194I’m that same retard who can’t pass the quiz
>>47765482https://nyaa.si/?q=tmw
ayo whats up with rezero and dropping idioms every chance it gets
>>47765572Thank you brother
>>47765754It's called being a good writer
>>47765306t. n6
>卿>also means 'you'ssssssssssiiiiiiiiggggggghhhhhh
literally just immerse 24/7 and look up kanji meanings. i learned english by watching fucking AVGN of all things with subtitles and playing videogames. do anki if it helps you
what am i supposed to do in cutscenes where i cant pause to lookup
>>47765937thats so easy to get around anon, im actually laughing at how dumb you are
>>47765937watch it again on youtubescreenshot if there are subtitles
>>47765947u should kys
id rather laugh at you stupid anon, its fun
>>47765937make a video with sharex or look it up on youtube like the other guy said
lil unko slow af
Literally just embrace ambiguity dummies Also ambiguity does not equal total confusion fyi
thats what ive been saying. though, i can understand if a person needs to understand something in a plot heavy story
https://x.com/wasavisawa/status/1833493093947216163
>>47765996how am i slow?
like that
>>47765996not me
>>47762859I strictly only read novels. It's by far a better way of immersion as it's more portable (you can mine on mobile) and offers much more extensive vocabulary. Also, if it's not on aozorabunko then it's probably trash and I don't read it.
>>47762873Video format reaches more people but has a very low impact on people. Video doesn't translate well to action irl.
>>47766106closemindedness is not edgy or cool
>>47763515This, it's actually mind blowing how much more reading impacts comprehension.
>>47765142Any piece of literature worth reading is already freely available on aozorabunko.
>>47766171ive read dozens of books not on there that i enjoyed
>>47766130Post war Japanese literature is cucked. It's all a ghq psyop to restrict the general population's literary comprehension.
>>47766194you say this but probably read post kana simplification literature.
>>47766194most people dont read specifically to encounter kanjis
most people dont read djt to encounter unko either
no one does that
>it's too late to sign up for the n5well fuck me, they usually do the registration in october, why did they do it in august this year?
>>47766201True but the difference is that kana is a syllabary with the sole purpose of denoting reading. The kanji "simplification" on the other hand deeply undermines the literary ability of Japanese people and japanese learners alike by: restricting the number of kanji and readings to largely insufficient amount, replacing characters with a nonsensical "simplified version" e.g. 活発, 包丁,..., introducing the concept of 交ぜ書き further restricting learners kanji aptitude by simply NOT showing half the kanji of a word AND making texts harder to read, destroying the 六書 structure of kanji by annihilating any semantic clues to reading and meaning not only making characters harder to read/guess the meaning and reading but also harder to remember because of the lack of logic WHILE making them actually more complex by introducing a bunch of ridicule shapes that don't make any fucking sense whats the bottom part of 発? the write part of 満, 験? It's fucking gibberish you have to learn instead of being composed of much easier shapes that, yes, do have more strokes 發、滿、驗、…But perhaps the bigger issue is encouraging all written text to NOT have non-jouyou kanjis words ensuring that people remain forever with subpar literary aptitude. No wonder that every single (((japanese person))) that was "consulted" for the kanji reform actually wanted the REMOVAL of kanji or even the REPLACEMENT of the Japanese language by either English or French. What a fucking CLOWN SHOW.
>>47766435cope
Is AJATT worth itOr even just as much as possible without going crazyOr are there diminishing returns
>>47766365thanks for the new trip to filter
>>47766494worth if you have nothing else to do. yes there are diminishing returns
nigga im boutta get some ウーバーイーツ
>>47766450Smooth brain response, as expected from jouyou kanji apologist.
do you think djt will win today?
what is the explanation of あり in 勝負あり
>>47766616just its normal meaning
so it just means 勝負有り?
>>47766504>thanks for the new trip to filterセムクしてください。
yeah it just means the shoubu is ari
>おしっこの邪魔してゴメンね
>>47766601no itll be a big L
>>47766504this is one of the reasons i dont like using a trip
>>47766818nta but i literally filter any name you decide to use on any given day, unko
filtering your fellow djt bros inot what we do here in deejaytea
why is 沼 in a lot of boys names. who wants to be a fucking swamp
沼釜
https://jisho.org/search/%E6%B1%A0%E6%B2%BC>いけぬま 【池沼】>Family or surname>1. Ikenumaimagine having retard in your name
hes called 沼 because he makes all the girls around him do the shiofuki
>>47766616I could explain to you why it's あり and not ある but I won't because I don't like this thread
the less spoonfeeding the better
How do you guys mine when immersing in anime or video content? Just about every single anime on Crunchyroll is missing Japanese subtitles and the English translation is largely inaccurate. Do you just do it by ear and type out the hiragana in a translator?
>>47767141use your ear
>>47767141I download my anime with qbittorent and play it in mpv with a plug-in to help automatically export subtitles to anki cards. I think one of the guides should have a section on anime mining, I can't remember which one I followed.
>see english TL>search what I heard in kana>ah its probably this wurd
>>47767141you can use famous anime list >>47759374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEhG0ebKyLc&list=PLJxxw1JLRf6fo4KXrir5ahjExjPEWQaez
Am I the only person who after just taking a single day off of immersing, I just completely forget how the language works like word order and gotta remind myself Not as literally as I’m saying it but still
>>47767285yes
im oppodite
Didn’t immerse for two days in a rowIt’s just starting to get boring
how could immersion "get boring"just keep doing whatever shit you're doing in English, but do it in Japanese instead. Like go shit post on 5ch instead of here
5ch sucks dick nigga
>>47767336I don’t feel like watching anime rn and couldn’t force myself to read a vnI played pokemon went to work and edged when I got homeThen I thought about reading, watching, and writing but didn’t
i talk to my wife or テレフォンセックス with lonely bbas on skypech if i need to immerse lol
>>47767400you have never done either of those things fake unko
>>47767423been happily married and doing it for yearsget yourself a wife who doesnt mind
>>47767434how old is your wife?
>>4776744050代
we have 2 granny fuckers itt now?
no just a guy whos pretended to be me for yearsi never use a trip
tbqh pretending to be unko is so funny he always seethes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myC1p6yrBw8
tfw no replies
ベトナムのあのんきこえてますかhttps://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20240909/k10014576971000.html橋掛ける？だいじょうぶ？
i am placing blocks and shit cause im in fucking minecraft
youre playing minecraft in a cave looking for diamonds, thats funny, im in the same cave
im kicking ass im gaining xp and shit and im like yo man
has 1 person here actually learned this language?
me
>>47768144https://voca.ro/1niMAMHAKixr
>>47768158make a new one that one was posted before the fake unko started posting
>>47768162cba sorry
>>47768167you will never post a new vocaroo again i know itbecause youre the fake
>>47768170only fake is the guy that does shitty impersonations of me
>>47768170he doesn't have the trip, so he's the fake
i have never and will never use a trip
>>47768179be yourself dont steal my identity thats just creepylearn japanese and be proud of who you are lmao
youve been impersonating me for years and ive said nothing
lmao
you are anonymousyou cannot be impersonatedshut the fuck up
better than being a tripfag
ship of theseus"who is unko"
>>47768201you do not have an bba wife
>>47768211seethe and cope jealous wannabeyou cant have my life
>>47768189jesus pretty sure the real unko's handwriting isn't that bad
>>47768216hope at least the slightest bit of the irony gets through to the back of your mind and hurts a little
>>47768236its really not that hard to lead your own lifeif you put yourself out there im sure you could find a beautiful bba like me but pretending to be someone else for so long is just cringe
>>47768248ok cool ill change my name and that should clear things up
>>47768268nah youre gonna pretend you still have my life and claim all of my vocaroos are actually yours
>>47768281well i think if months go by and i keep posting new vocaroos with the trip on and you cant post new vocaroos ever again then you 詰む
>>47768294yeah see this is what im talking aboutyou still want people to think youre me
>>47768303you could prove it right now or within the next few months by just posting a new vocaroo but you wont何故かいな
>>47768307people have been impersonating me for yearsi havent cared enough to call it out then and i still dont care enough to now
>>47768324well ok but its gonna be weird in a few months if you are still spending hours of your day doing this that you havent posted a single new vocaroo
>>47768331ive been holding back recently because i have the nagging suspicion youre trying to clone my voice
meds
>>47768347loooolexplain the danish 旅券 then
>>47768367those arent exactly rare these days
>>47768375はーい次
ur getting btfo lil bro u caused him to use his trap card and now its over for u the game is up
>>47768390is a japanese passport supposed to be your proof youre me? lol
>>47768403well im not you
>>47768410your whole posting style kind of gave it away
>>47768390ブス専の電マ君だと！？ :OOO
>>47768427それくらいわかるかと
>>47768452こんな所で再会できるなんて！ (´；ω；｀)ｳｯ…
>>47768390did you get that from aliexpress? those arent even real kanjis
>>47768324>people have been impersonating me for years>i havent cared enough to call it out then and i still dont care enough to nowsame same
>>47768505こっちでは(B)unkoで通じてるここ最近は米系の名前を使ってたがなんかイタいやつがちょっと前から燥ぎやがって辞めざるを
>>47768560どうせならオバサンにモテモテだったらよかったのにね！ (ﾟ∀ﾟ)ｱﾋｬ
>>47768390國 forcefully written as 国 in 篆文... Hate to see it.
>>47768630どゆことや
New.>>47768704>>47768704>>47768704
>>47768678I know you're famous enough to be impersonated by Obasans :3
>>47768732白人の婆はこの系統がいいな
>>47768746お肌ツルツルでまだBBAじゃない :3
>>47768781髪長いほうがええんやて
>>47768816完
前提としておばちゃん自体あまり好きじゃないけどね(^_^;)完！
>>47766616>ありold terminal form. it'd be written ある normally. also see its opposite なしexpression's meaning is the game is set (i.e. 勝ち負けが決まった)
