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my life is falling apart because all i want to do is immerse in japanese
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMClIPRKPtA
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>bang
with pleasure
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>親の顔される
does it mean something like "being treated like a child"?
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>>47768755
you're kinda close, but not quite there! (^_^)
"oya no kao sareru" actually means something more like "to be looked at sternly by one's parents" or "to get a disapproving look from parents" (^-^)
it's that feeling when you've done something naughty and your parents give you that disappointed look... you know the one! (>_<)
so it's not exactly being treated like a child, but more about feeling scolded or judged by parental figures. hope that helps, cutie! :3
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Can the 2.3k Japanese deck be finished in 14 days? A short 2 week school break is coming up. Assuming I'll be using Anki for 10 hours a day, is it possible to finish the 2.3k deck in this time? I'm planning to finish about 230 cards per day and spend the last 4 reviewing them over and over again. Or should I do another more efficient method?
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>>47768797
no. just do it normally. rushing through it is a waste of time
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>>47768811
is that image real
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>>47768797
The issue isn't if it can be done but rather if it is even meaningful to do it. There is a to the amount of information that can be stored into short memory and then passed to long term memory. Not only that much doing that much new cards in such a short time span will guarantee an insane amount of reviews stacking for months. Reviews that will keep stacking since you will certainly have a very low retention rate. You're essentially trying to use a SRS application while completely removing the SRS aspect of it. Might as well stare at a blank wall for 10 hours straight.
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s4s校正HELL
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>>47768797
listen to 841
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returning dekinai here
I did some RTK and tae kim back in the day but lost motivation
going to try again, this time with core2k/6k.
is the latest version of anki good vanilla or are there still some plugins that are recommended? I forget the setup

btw dare I ask uhh.. whatever happened to m*tt?
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>>47769338
nvm just found the anacreon vid documenting the drama
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>>47769338
>this time with core2k/6k
why not core2.3k or kanshi?
>are there still some plugins that are recommended
fsrs helper
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>>47769403
>why not core2.3k or kanshi?
honestly just comes down to an arbitrary choice in the end doesnt it? if you have good reasons to choose a different one, I'm all ears
my reasoning was 2k would be good to refresh my memory with what little I did know so I can get back into immersion
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>>47769338
vanillas fine just turn on fsrs
matt went full scam with his mailing list and runs a glorified support group
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>>47769459
it's not arbitrary. 2k/6k has shit sorting, pointless katakana cards, pointless redundant cards
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>>47769519
ok like I said I hadn't really thought about it
cool thanks
i'll get fsrs too >>47769475
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>>47768778
おやという顔した
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Tae Kim Grammar Guide or Cure Dolly? or both??
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stfu
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imagine actually starting in 2024 holy shit
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nigga youre like 18 so stfu
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>>47769657
either. if something isn't clear check what the other says
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it's a great time to start, japanese culture is better than ever >>47768736
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>>47769681
im 23 and my wife is older than you
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is there a way to fix android displaying fucking chinese fonts by default other than switching the entire fucking phone to nippongo?
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>>47769712
yeah so youre basically still a teenager. you dont get to pretend to be an old timer just because you married someone old
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>>47769718
https://learnjapanese.moe/font/#android
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>>47769751
my phone doesn't allow me to have two system languages at once. when i select one it just switches to that until I switch back. i can add it as an input language, which I already have but it does nothing
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>>47769718
Add japanese as a second language and drag it under english.
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iphones feel more japanese
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>>47769773
my phone isn't even old, why the fuck doesn't it allow me to add a second language? I can only change the system language.
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>>47769764
are you sure? i'm reading that this should be supported from android 7
>Starting in Android 7.0 (API level 24), Android provides enhanced support for multilingual users, allowing them to select multiple locales in settings.
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how do i translate porn without becoming lost in pornbrain?
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>>47769806
turn your phone japanese bro
>>47769841
is there even money to be made these days?
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>>47769833
yea, doesn't matter what I do, long press anything, there's no + sign or anything either. i either set my phone to uk or jp. both isn't possible. not inside the google settings either.

>>47769858
my original post said "other than switching the entire phone to japanese" so idk what your useless comment is for
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>>47769841
embrace it
the only immersion i can do is doujinshi and videogames, i'm physically unable to give a shit about anime or tv shows
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>>47769894
after some googling it seems the answer is that xiaomi chink phones are garbage and you shouldn't use one because they don't allow you to do this unless you root it and boot their shit
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>>47769894
i dont know then. here it is on android 7 https://youtu.be/Vv2Be5lVB-c?t=36
maybe your phone maker fucked with the system or something
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>>47769980
yea mine just doesn't even have the 2nd menu, it goes directly into language selection
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>>47769894
its your only option other than rooting apparently and i doubt you would be able since we are having this conversation
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghyfnVzgB1o
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What’s a better Anki deck for begginers?

Kaishi 1.5k

or

Core2.3k Version 3
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kaishi probably
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めっちゃ怖いこといっていい?
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>>47770902
Any reason why?
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>>47771035
core has some words that don't belong in 2k
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https://youtu.be/YoGpvs6c0-8?t=194
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>>47770860
https://numbergenerator.org/randomnumbergenerator/1-2

There is no better option. Just pick one.
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I wish there was a way to actually track how far I’ve gotten
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Who of you is this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJuGL-GWd-s
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How many new cards are you getting in your decks a day? I’ve been doing the default 20
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is this really that uncommon? first time seeing furigana in this VN
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wasn't expecting to see B-カルボリン in my light music manga
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>>47771502
easier to read that way
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>>47771497
15 my mining is starting to outpace it so I'll probably up it to 20
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>>47771295
there are ways of doing that depending on what exactly you're aiming for. if you're looking to travel and expect to be using japanese as a spoken language a lot, streams, movies, videos of the "we asked a random guy on the street to explain why japanese are so evil and racist" variety are pretty good. same for reading comments and tweets online. if you're more of a reader, take your pick: there are vn holy grails of difficulty and basic japanese lit on aozora can be fairly challenging as well. there's poetry too.
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>>47771295
Listening to Japanese songs you've been listening to since way before deciding to learn Japanese and suddenly understanding more and more stuff did that for me.
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>>47771741
Well I’ll reach 6 months studied in 2 days
Can kinda watch anime only pausing for new words or really long sentences my brain can’t process
Reading is also just kinda an issue of knowing the words
I guess that’s about what I should expect
I do know that trying to write as of now is impossible
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>>47771781
yeah i think writing is something you'll be able to tackle once you consume so much that your brain turns into GTP that generates logical strings of japanese.
have you tried finding an anime, book, manga, vn, or game that's out of your range language wise but you have a large interest in it? i had a few vns like that, they kept me going through my first few years of studying japanese. i used them to test my skill. every year i'd boot them up and see if i can properly read that shit now (it helped greatly that these vns started with somewhat challenging intros). when i got good enough i was able to confirm that i reached some sort of acquisition milestone and then i got to enjoy the stuff i was looking forward to.
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i wonder man
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just got back from the doctor for an ADHD consult and the guy told me I definitely have it, but I may also have autism. I told him I never had a girlfriend my entire life and he mentioned that I was somewhat fidgety and avoided a lot of eye contact. this plus all the other things we talked about led him to that conclusion, but since we were there for the ADD and not autism It wasn't a clinical diagnosis.
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Being able to read in Japanese takes so much longer (without yomitan) because there is a prerequisite of memorizing hundreds and hundreds of On reading before you can properly sound out words
At least in Latin Germanic languages if you know the sound you can read any word
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good, it filters hordes of the lowest ESL scum
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>>47771814
do you have more of a broad range of interests or a smaller range of intense ones? i was wondering if maybe i'm a bit autistic but dr k said autists often have very specific intense interests which i don't believe i have. but maybe that's just how it is when you have autism with adhd
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>>47771814
>i went to the doctors and they told me im a normal guy
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>>47771814
i only have a few interests that i like to focus on a lot. didn't know that was a flag for autism tho.
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>>47771942
>>47772004
oops wrong @
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>>47771863
>At least in Latin Germanic languages if you know the sound you can read any word
No https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6E1gWLgdidw
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https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1833602392182460416/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/TsuNk_HE4KxZnTsB.mp4?tag=12
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is there a good setup for mining from manga?
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I understand everything in this jlpt n5 study guide, and everything in Genki 1 and Genki 2

is there any good decks for tobira vocab/grammar? i have one and it's just okay.. the one in the cornucopia of resources was taken down so i can't use that one.

i'm hoping to take the n4 next year...
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>>47772230
windows + shift + s and ctrl + v
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>>47772235
why am i even helping a tripfag?

https://jpdb.io/textbook/4109/tobira
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>>47772477
ありがとうございます!

i've been using this trip for 9 years now. it's so i can find my post history
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How do you guys force yourselves to immerse even when you don’t want to
How do you do any hobby even when you don’t feel like it
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I dont
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i just always feel like it?
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>>47772504
i guess.

I don't really like jpdb for the most part but you can steal the deck using some shit online. Btw you can use bunpro for a more ""structured"" way of doing grammar. Can also just read tae kim a couple of times. Personally focusing on these books feels a bit stupid but do your thing man
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>>47772602
i jump between different mediums and works all the time and prioritize consistency over quanity. i also try to tie in my other interests by doing stuff like playing songs from anime or writing stories with light novel influences
nigger
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>>47772602
get an older gf that you can talk to
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>>47772922
I don’t want a gf tho
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Also I may just be retarded and somehow form mental blocks / negative connotations for the most mundane of tasks even things I enjoy
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>>47771055
post them
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>>47772602
its not a hobby if you don't wanna do you
or do you mean days that just overall feel like you'd rather stay in bed all day?
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>>47773017
浮く, 浮かぶ, 浮かべる are redundant
いたずら is 5k at best
言い方, やり方, 書き方, 生き方 are redundant with 言う, やる etc. just one of them would be more than enough
similar thing with 歴史的 or 文化的
非常口 is not even close to 2k and also redundant with 入り口 and 非常
交じる is definitely beyond 2k
無関係
最先端
that's just from looking through it for a few minutes
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>>47773131
Idk basically just random chunks of time where I really don’t feel like doing it
But then eventually the feeling returns
For anime it’s not that hard but having to read a LN feels like a chore at this point it’s boring, I know how to read just need more words known
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>>47773134
its a beginner deck. whats easy and obvious like transitive and intransitive to you isn't obvious to someone with no reference. also repetition is important for beginners, so 言い方, やり方, 書き方, 生き方 and 歴史的 vs 文化的 help cement concepts. that being said, kaishi is still better
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>>47773134
>交じる is definitely beyond 2k
majiru majiru majinaika?
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i didnt say they dont help anything, just that they dont belong in a beginner deck of a limited size. transitive/intransitive can be figured out from the context when immersing so it makes no sense to try to memorize it out of context. and cementing is done during immersion too. beginner decks are just there to help people start immersing in compelling stuff, not to cement things. otherwise people would be recommending grammar decks and stuff
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>>47773255
nah it helps
there was a guy asking what 戦いかた meant just the other day
if he had done the core deck he wouldnt have been asking about it
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>>47773329
please just use your own name i dont want this ngmi discussion associated with me
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>>47773331
こっちのセリフだ
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>>47766123
you've got the causation wrong. it's just that the kinds of people who are likely to watch videos instead of read articles are likely to not take action, and that's because dumber and lazier people happen to watch videos. but the act of gathering your information from a video doesn't make you less likely to do something.
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>>47773382
>>47768390
its over bro
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>>47773153
>that being said, kaishi is still better
it's not
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>>47773406
okay, bro. im over it
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>>47773255
>they dont belong in a beginner deck of a limited size.

you only found less than 10 cards out of 2000, removing them would make no difference
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>>47773402
ちょっと日本語複雑すぎたみたいだね
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>>47773681
複雑だと?それはそれは頑張ったな
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>>47773694
日本語で返してきたね
少し上手になったのかな
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I’ve used SRS every day for more than 18 years, never skipped the day and I’ve always done my daily allotted flashcards. In other words, at the end of every single day, my total number of flashcards that I have to do is always zero. After about two months of daily use, especially after I was seeing tangible results from using spaced repetition, it wasn’t very difficult for me to make flashcards a daily part of my life. What has helped me the most has been doing them as soon as I wake up. Almost none of my cards have been made by other people, I have made basically all of the flashcards myself that I personally review. Because of this, reviewing my flashcards feels more like a personal thing, like looking over old entries to a diary. Like another poster mentioned above, the more you can make your flashcards, personalized and visual, the way more fun you will have reviewing them. each morning I wake up and I am a little excited about what flashcards I’m going to review that day. This morning I reviewed a couple I made from 2007, I was a little nostalgic as I read over them to be honest. I would say for the last 15 years, 98% of the time I do my flashcards as soon as I wake up. Sometimes something interferes with it, and I have to do them in the afternoon or evening, but otherwise they all get done during the morning. I noticed that if I do not do my flashcards in the morning and have to go about my day, I am grumpy
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same for me except sri's
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>>47773739
日本語力の勝負は真正面からかかればどう考えても勝ち目ないから俺のフリをするとか色んな手使うんだよな
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1番強いガイジン出たああああああ
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where?
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>>47773772
あれ?お前日本語で返せなかったことに今気づいたわ
別に大したことじゃないけどな
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>>47773808
あれ?男で勃起したぜ
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>>47773817
ゲイかもしれない
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絶対ゲイ

お二人さんは
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>>47773841
dammit why do i still laugh at the stuff you type
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>>47773841
just trynna get this nigga off my dick
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>>47773851
cuz it so bad
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>>47773896
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Is the only way to build vocab seriously mining 10,000 Anki cards
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no you gotta do it jokingly
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>>47773941
pretty crazy if it wasnt for avgn i probably wouldnt be here
he got me into retro games and that lead me to japanese
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avgn is gay and has shitty content
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>>47773980
are you some dude whos salty i hate vtubers?
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>>47774008
no why
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>>47773945
no
its at least double that
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is the only way to build a meaningful relationship with a japanese woman seriously becoming a dekiru
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Anyone got recommendations for natural speaking immersion?
I've been watching this chick's vlogs since they're subtitles and her voice is relaxing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goVoG3ckHrs

and I'd like to find more like it.
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>>47774131
literally any podcast for natives ever
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>>47774106
only if theyre more than twice your age and lonely
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oldest jap bitch i ever sexted with was 58 she talked about getting a donor egg and having kids
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whats the hardest anime
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>>47774199
ginga ayylmao densetu
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Supposedly legend of the galactic heroes
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the old hxh anime goes the hardest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TRs6cMZkQY
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>>47774224
i dare anyone to watch this and call the remake better
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>>47774233
both good
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>>47774224
もっと踏みしめないと
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すぐ隠蔽してしまう国はどーこだ
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>>47774131
>insert matt talking about terrace house
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>>47774224
hisoka vs chrollo fight sucked if we're being honest.
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3 days in a row of no immersion
It’s over
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it never started
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I had a good 6 months
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All the ones I have DMed on Twitter back then were in their 20s I don't know how you guys can get older women
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>>47774625
between manga, anime, VNs, video games, light novels, anime, podcasts, youtube, TV shows, and JAV surely you could find something to do
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>>47774789
Nah just haven’t been in the mood played an anime episode for about 2 minutes yesterday and paused it that’s about it
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is themoeway any good?
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STFU
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>>47774856
Yes
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yea japanese is cool but penguins are cooler
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>>47774678
older women dont use twitter
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>>47774871
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLanIzrAkS7evUjc0RNgHF-JCGAAH00_VN
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>that meme song is giri giri dansu not "get it get it done"
life was a lie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMrLIEZvpqQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Y8HbbYaOU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1SKNHkgHt8
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no good posts
all 3 djts are complete fucking shit
someone do something
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there are three perfectly good posts right above yours
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good post right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCf0-oLBd3g
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このDekinaiどもめ

すきだよ
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>>47775495
I read that volume yesterday
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with the rice shortage is it still possible to become a rice mogul and start a clan or no
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https://youtu.be/HErf4OELzYk?si=hjAyB1EwKHhM2RtG
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>>47775596
キモ
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wish i had a medical sex worker
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>>47775487
wheres the sex version
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>>47774868
Same for me with PS5 Pro.. うざい
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>>47775495
belly button!
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>>47775740
poorly drawn teeth!
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>>47773329
>>47773413
>>>/trash/69069120
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>>47775750
vocaroo
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stfu imoto
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isnt imouto the bitch who couldnt vocaroo mareni lol
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imouto never produced anything of substance because she was a he
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Why are you studying Japanese?
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my dopamine
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i dont study japanese
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQn-r_Z48-w
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vtubers are so boring
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJcVKjKBoKg

this is what young japanese kids are watching on youtube
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>>47775890
ムホホー! (*´Д`)ハァハァ
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this is 不曳だ right? how would you guys translate this?
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no
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>>47775997
>不良
youre a badass >:3
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>>47775958
I want to go to the konyoku in Japan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaccEW7az84
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>>47775785
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2XRUEWqHCw
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>>47776113
>all 3D models have been updated with spats
https://www.youtube.com/live/GnW76d1A3YQ?t=1379

old hololive was better
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I just started learning Japanese after studying it in High School and giving it up
Any suggestions for how I can learn to write the most beautiful kana and kanji? I know it won't help me read Japanese but I like kanji
Back in high school I was just focused on banging out the exercises and my teacher always criticised me
Do I need a specific kind of pen to be able to get those marks at the end of each stroke?
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Back in highs chool I was focused on banging out your mom
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>>47776055
開国前の外国人も同じこといって

日本の混浴に入りに来たよ

1853年前後の書物に書かれている
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>>47776239
>>47776055
Is it true there's only grannys in konyoku
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>>47776133
pick up a brush pen
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i think im immersing too hard with the zundamons nanoda
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robovoice immersion is too ngmi for me
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>>47776380
holy zun-kiri based ;3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ_wYdKdtsg
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>>47776239


頻繁に性欲を持て余して外人が犯罪してる記録がある

かいがいのあのんは200年経っても性欲を制御Dekinai
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>>47776319
Probably, I've been to finish sauna's and it was similar.
I've seen stuff I wish to unsee.
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>>47776319
>>47776828
zamn
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>>47776841
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somebody was like "hehe this is so funny let me waste 2 hours drawing 2 grandmas molesting a minor and post it on reddit for some sweet karma"
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SPEAK ENGLISH NIGGA
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難しい話なんだけど

ホモサピの生き物を斃す脳の機能と

ホモサピの発情機構は

脳の非常に近い部分で処理してるとおもう
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>>47776874
esl nigga
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its ok nigga cuz i got that weed card
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no thats me unko
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just coomed twice in a row, felt pretty good
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>>47777379
oh, coomed to jav, so it was immersion i guess
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>>47777384
how many words did you mine?
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Now I understand how 礼 turned into れ
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>>47777450
痛い
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>>47772230
mokuro
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>>47777651
but why?
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>>47777651
jav?
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>>47777665
yeah lol
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>>47777651
you just gave yourself away as the fake unko with that one
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lol you caught me
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>そうして、最近は暑くなったよねなどと言いながら、メニューを繰って注文する料理を選んでいく。

what does メニューを繰って mean?
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>>47768729
take a break from the japanese and do your duties
you can get back to it anytime, nobody cares about you being good at japanese and it's not worth being bad at everything else in your life
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stfu
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I bet this choice will have serious repercussions after 11 hours of gameplay
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>>47778098
did you ever notice the point in your learning where it stopped becoming about grammatical difficulty and mainly about vocabulary?
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>>47777828
>繰る
書籍などのページをめくる。また、めくって必要なことがらを探し出す。
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>>47778200
YOU DIED (ΦωΦ)
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just got the jlab decks to try and make a listening deck. who wants em
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>>47778237
yeah i think he noticed that with kachite
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>>47778266
ill need to see some gmi certification before i can let you insult big q like that
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failed cards today
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>>47778563
i knew 納得
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glq7wunP_Ho
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https://x.com/wasavisawa/status/1834211137522733316
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>>47779106
somewhat feeling 4
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>>47779154
try again
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>>47779106
3
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sateoki to answer, Wasabi anon is probably the most exemplary learner of Japanese, sirankedo :3
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>>47779154
I also convinced myself that 4 made sense but I've got no clue desu
turns out I'm not N2
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冗談は置いておきたまへ 𖤐(ゝω・)vキャピ
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>>47779106
3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3OAraGgxc

today's immersion
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>grifting whore: :|
>grifting whore japan: :O
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of course asexual anon has to come out and post now
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>>47779459
this is wrong i love all whores
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>>47779405
>そんな目で私のbuttを見ないでください
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today's immersion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oizd0xx_en0
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don't have a problem with whores
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>>47779512
but I already just immersed to this >>47779405
sure when I was younger I could immerse multiple times in a row no problem but these days I need some time to recover between immersions
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stopped repping 2 months ago
made new deck
draggin individual old cards into new deck
should i reset them?
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like half of my anki fails is confusing between しょう, じょう, しゅう and じゅう
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>>47778237
i don't know, not really
i never really thought about whether me not understanding stuff was due to grammar or vocabulary
the only thing i noticed is the amount of stuff i don't understand going down gradually until i understood most things
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the amount of times i had to look up 凛々しい because i can't remember 凛 for the life of me
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>>47768704
I love you idolmaster
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>>47780040
same, it's all kango readings
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one problem in general that poses a persitent threat to the learners adequate understanding is that concept of grammatical person does not exist in japanese.

on the one hand any spoken real-life sentence between actual people will always allow the inference of the relationship between the speakers or the parties mentioned, curtesy of honorifics. while on the other hand, more often than not, one is not granted this lifeline in neutrally written sentences or factual texts. as such, the system of honorific lanugage is therefore not an equivalent replacement (or even a reliable one, as honorifics aren't even immediately necassary grammatical structures but rather an lingusitc expression of social conventions that need to followed but might also be broken just the same) .

together with the ever-popular omission of personal pronouns at just about any given opportunity this leads to countless instances where, when given a excerpt from a text, the reader cannot in fact be sure who the agent of the described actions actually is:

>三つに折ったその緑色の罫の便箋を嗅いてみた
i, you, he/she/it, we, you, they did that? who can tell? it never changes...
what initially might appear as a blessing to the early student can prove to have rather challenging outcome over time with its dowsides all its own
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so is 99 percent of kansai just replacing だ and やand ない and へん?
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>>47780260
no
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>>47780267
>having to reply just to ask "what else, then"
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>>47780260
the negative is a bit more complex than that
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>>47780316
grammar, vocabulary, pitch accent, set phrases of every day life. they all exhibit differences to varying degrees
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLINFE8v4DOhvqcMrWcagTf8cIZSbhxuAC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thh4T7cc7Kg
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>>47780468
unironically, im not autistic enough to use with it looking so dated and it probably being buggy. i want to get away from microsofts os real bad, but don't want to give up native .exe compatibility
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>libgen
>try to dl kklc
>60 kbps and fails every time before finish
its ogre isnt it
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no thats just their crippling prevention(tm) mechanism
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memorization helps immensely with acquisition
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reverse engineering a kanji thru kondasha kanji learners course actually gives me a boner
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>>47779106
what N level am i if i dont even need to look at the options
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how often should you do "review forgotten cards" or "review ahead"? is it never, or is there a place for it?
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just get a japanese girlfriend that translates everything for you, no need to learn the language
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>>47780787
don't even worry about those options.
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>>47778563
かんじん
すがる
しんりん
こうせん
ようせい
じょうちょ
ほうそう
ほのか
たいじ
がく
こうず
しきちょう
つうさん
きょうしつ
かんさん
font too small, what is that? 腔? 膳?
かかえあげる
なっとく
ろじ

how many did i miss?
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>>47780850
額 is ひたい in my case, and the one you weren't sure of is 臍
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>>47780875
ahh of course, ty anon
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>>47780875
just mined heso
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>>47780904
desu a bit embarrassed ひたい isnt the first word that came to mind but i dont really mix up the readings in context so its whatever
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私には相対している人間がウソをついているかどうか、おおよそ見抜くことができる。昔から交渉事で他者に欺かれる経験がないことが自慢でな。what does でな do in this sentences. i know what the its saying, but not sure why it ends like this
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>>47781091
the sentence goes on. it probably explains something else.

昔から交渉事で他者に欺かれる経験がないことが自慢で 私には相対している人間がウソをついているかどうか、おおよそ見抜くことができる。
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>>47781107
wtf there was a arrow that 4chan ate up


昔から交渉事で他者に欺かれる経験がないことが自慢で (-> thats why ->) 私には相対している人間がウソをついているかどうか、おおよそ見抜くことができる。
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>>47781115
yea that makes sense actually, but what about the な. i remember cure dolly saying that な when used like this acts as a way of "thinking to oneself out loud" is this the case?
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>>47781288
dont think about it too hard, just acquire
its just like people saying yeah at the end of their sentence
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When do you start really picking up a lot when watching Japanese content? I’ve been at my Anki deck for only two weeks but outside of a word here and there (ここ, 何, 彼 and such) I don’t know what’s going. I definitely don’t expect to know more than I already do, but when did you start noticing a huge improvement from when you started? A couple of months? I’m kind of tempted to abstain from immersion until I get better.
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when you get to intermediate level which im at
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>>47781354
What would you qualify as intermediate and how long did it take? Congrats, by the way, and こんにちは to you as well
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>>47781344
2 weeks is too early. i'm still learning, but i never felt some big burst of progress. it's always kind of felt like whittling down a stone, i only notice improvements when I've revisited things that i tried to consume in the past.
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OG digimon adventure is fun, easy to understand dialogue, simple plot and battles
To bad about the future betrayer bitch
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Am I crazy or does newer slice of life anime (I guess 2015-onward) have insanely fast and abundant dialogue? I never noticed this until I actually tried to watch anime sans English subs. Are there any anime where every character isn't a motormouth? I know there's Non Non Biyori which makes sense because it's a totally laid back show to begin with.
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>>47781720
karakai jouzu tagaki san, but yeah most modern sol romance shit is no longer iyashikei
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>>47781720
yurukyan
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How long did it take you to realize that yomitan is killing your gains and that the less you looked up words, the faster you learned?

Also, how long until you realized listening was more based than reading?
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>>47781944
>yomitan is killing your gains
how
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>>47781951
if you look up words too frequently and too effortlessly, you don't remember anything

Try reading your VNs with no texthooker, and use the weblio app on your phone to look up monolingual definitions instead of yomitan
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>>47781975
thats what ankis for
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>>47781981
imagine if immersion could make you improve as fast as Anki could. You'd quadruple your improvement speed
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はいよろこんであなたがたのために
できることならできるとこまで
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我が物顔 is a whole word wtf
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be real can you read this and know the meaning?
馭者
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>>47782073
couldn't read it without hovering
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>>47782073
im nip but cant read this
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>>47782073
read that as hasha
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>>47782073
my wife doesnt even know how to read that
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>>47782103
why you here in the japanese learning thread dumbass are you here to feel good about yourself fuck off we are 頑張るing every day while you just like to watch? fuzakennna
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ok so are you gonna explain where you got that word from or is this just jisho guy trolling us again?
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>>47781975
I'm having this problem
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it pops up in 火狩りの王 apparently
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I hit play on anime and sometimes have like 5 minutes or more where I just have 0 idea what’s being said
It’s like I have to consciously remind myself of word order and such things despite having listened to the language for months
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I don't think I was quite ready to move on to sci;adv vns after finishing nekopara
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whoever dropped the はいよろこんで in the thread earlier got me hooked on it
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came up on 42 mined words today
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>風がなびいた
yooo i thought nabiku means to waver/bent due to the wind blowing but it seems to mean "to blow" as well?
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Any good matome websites? The only funny story I've read so far is about a guy who shat his pants on a night bus. Everything else seemed boring
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guys this is it
this is how you 10x your listening ability by using this simple trick:
setting up the jimakus to appear 1.5-2 seconds earlier allows you to preread what is about to be said so you'll be able to hear most of what they'll say without using the jimakus as a crutch while they're saying their lines

you now own me 1000000$ for hearing this advice

do this for 100 shows and youll be able to hear everything without jimakus
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Four days in a row with zero immersion

It’s over
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-umFqEc0YOc
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おまいらぎゃるがん2が安いぞ急げ! >:3
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/9145/GalGun_2__VR_Bundle/
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>>47782073
acquired from kkk
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>>47781944
>>47781975
it took me 1 second to realize that you cannot and never will be able to produce any evidence for this and that you suffer from confirmation bias
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may I suggest an altnerative way
audio first then learning how to read last
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looking up words by hearing in romanji on jisho
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>>47782782
no
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Is there a way to learn with either gaming or reading a visual novel, with ingame-tools that would allow me to copy some words in jisho if possible? I tend to remember kanjis better if I learn them in context, braindead flashcards are completely useless.
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>>47782806
you sound brain dead yourself
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lol
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>>47782806
今さらGBやるなら聖剣伝説くらい :3
リメイクがダメダメだからね
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>>47782073
I got it right in 1 try I am so good at japanese
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>>47782853
vocaroo
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>>47782855
I've never spoke jp. I learn jp to read chinese powerpoints
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dont respond to unko
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it's easy if you already know 駕御/駕馭(がぎょ)
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this improved the thread experience by 200% im not even joking
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>>47782859
your ability to read is directly proportional to your vocaroo performance
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your ass is directly proportional to my foot
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https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a5Qn3EE_460svvp9.webm
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we missed you austrian guy
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>>47782902
good to see you back
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>>47782073
I could but only because I have an immense hatred for 書き換え字.
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the retard that spends his life in the /int/ djt correcitng the italian retard that spends his life asking questions in the /int/ djt?
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i was always here though?
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>>47782902
アニャかわよ(*´ェ`*)
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>>47782902
cant get into this reddit shit and im speaking as a reddit user
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>>47782987
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>>47782987
consider going back
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morbido owned
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>>47783020
i was already on 4chan back when people used digg over reddit and i didnt even know reddit existed
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>>47782439
>Four days in a row with zero immersion
see you tomorrow I guess
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Hello!!! I was playing White Album 2 with the DeepL option in Textractor and they just throw me a "error while translating" and i looked it and it happens cuz DeepL free subscription have a limit rate of translation :C cuz that i was wondering if anyone knows something like another translator that can translate English->Spanish and i can use it with Textractor ywy, thanks for reading and i apology if some part doesn't make sense that is everything im reading you guys :D
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beatles never made a white album 2 stop lying
https://youtu.be/bI8P6ZSHSvE?list=PLpwHb97XjkRsC8lcHjmy4DlHZicQuQE5M
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acquired 蜃気楼
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n7
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no its only in 18% of vns and 2% of animes
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the rest being n8
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n8 isnt real, there is only evidence of n6 and n7
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwNBzzEssN0
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vtubings a bit キモい
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBUGWX2tK8M
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green chick needs to seriously back off the mic and work on that accent
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>>47783015
momoi is so cute
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>>47783609
get a life
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Why are you studying Japanese?
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>>47783913
to say congrats to you >:3
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Hello anons, please help me understand this grammar としては vs にしては:

彼は初心者にしては上手だ。
He's a beginner, but he's so skilled, such that his skill doesn't look like the skill of a beginner.

彼は初心者としては上手だ。
For a beginner, he's skilled. His skill is still within the range of the typical beginner, but he's at the upper bracket or top 1% of typical beginner.

Am I correct?
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i dont know japanese but according to the grammar dictionary youre correct
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just feel it out
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>>47783932
yes the latter defines a role the former contrasts the role
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>>47783974
ごっつぁんです。
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yooooooo
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8IxqqU30Bp0
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oh god please no
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>>47784014
its over
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>>47784014
pekora!
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the only thing im grateful for is that vtuber enjoyers are the biggest ngmis of the thread
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actually I'm the biggest ngmi here
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>>47772627
>you can steal the deck using some shit online.
How, any link pls
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more ngmi discussion
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##dripgod
https://youtu.be/Bs0Cc2NnsRU
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>>47784291
ngmi :3
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>>47784314
サヨウナラ
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you guys have any good netflix recs? my old lady wants to watch something funny before bed
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>>47784331
ユルサン! >:3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvByh2_lLKc

today's immersion
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>grind anki
>grind grammar
>start immersion
>words end in shit like tierundattedakarundesumaimashita
What the fuck prepares you for this? Genuinely. Or am I just supposed to guess what sentences mean and understand 50% and just figure it out over time somehow?
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>>47784478
California is unforgivable! >:3
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How do you guys understand audio better
Reading is easy, infinite time (not that I don’t make an attempt to read quicker) just you and the words
But idk how to process audio better
Should I be attempting to conscious remember what each word and particle and their specific order in the sentence means
Or just let the audio enter and have my brain subconsciously process it with me only looking at the animation/subs on screen
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acquired 10円ハゲ
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>>47784598
think ab what u would do in english and do that
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>>47784598
the desire to understand what the cute anime girl is saying is vital
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>>47784598
listen to audiobooks that you've already read.
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>>47784598
sokoani episodes of the shows you watched(even if you think the show is shit it's good immersion material)
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>>47784214
https://jpdb.asayake.xyz/
view deck -> save to csv
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after learning around 1200 kanji and about 100 hours of immersion reading my brother is about to give up on the "reading" method of learning japanese
he feels confident that speaking and listening to japs will somehow be easier to acquire the language and that later on he can go back to reading books
is he right?
i feel that its too early for him to give up on reading, I think he should have at least 1000 hours of reading before "giving up" on this method of learning
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>>47784506
>What the fuck prepares you for this?
you JUST said you were grinding grammar
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>>47785051
600 even, but definitely not 100
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>>47785051
>is he right?
he's an idiot and so are you. you don't give up on reading when trying to learn a new language. that's giving up on learning the damned language
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>>47785051
he should quit and start learning chinese
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ふっかつ
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official anime immersion thread >>>/a/270953250
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>>47785158
like a phoenix rising from the ashes
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>>47785158
京アニやったぜ! (゚∀゚)アヒャ
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>>47784669
The fuck is sokoani
>>47784638
I might do this for some stuff I read in Japanese, and stuff I’ve read in English like Monogatari
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世界が広がる 推し活英語 https://amzn.asia/d/aoDHStN
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>>47785103
>>47785096
>>47785077
he just told me "that`s not what I meant"
he actually wants to go the normie route and go to classes in real life the "normie" way, hes tired of reading grammar books and trying to learn on his own
he wants a teacher to tell him what to do
is he still wrong?
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>>47785483
エクボやばっ! :o
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>>47774856
Are you good?
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ye ol' two dads
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wonder if a phantom troupe member will die in the set of chapters that will start dropping next month
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>>47768704
daily reminder to read the official DJT guide
DJT guide v3.0, written from scratch by 出来るやつs: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
new - rikaitan site: https://rikaitan.github.io/
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>>47785832
>ankidrone as a name having clear negative connotations in the community
>doesn't decide to rebrand
>here my updated 3.0 guide!
fggt
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>>47771863
>>47781944
>>47781975
>>47781951
>>47771863
We stand against the hijack attempt of the (former) Yomichan project by the "moe way" because they promote a flawed and ineffective language learning method which is different from AJATT. Moreover, "moe way" has been a bad actor in the Japanese learning world for a long time, and we can't trust them.

I recommend Rikaitan instead. Say "Rikaitan" if you also believe the hijack should not succeed. Rikaitan is the true successor of Yomichan. It's a browser extension that lets you look up words on web pages (a pop-up dictionary). Rikaitan is free/libre software. It is maintained by the AJATT community and everybody can contribute if they want to.

https://rikaitan.github.io/
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>>47785887
>doesn't decide to rebrand
why? ankidrones should immerse instead of doing anki.
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I took some anon’s advice here a few years back to learn Chinese first, and I just want to say it’s a huge mistake
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>>47784372
see https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/can-i-use-netflix-to-learn-japanese
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こにちわ

I just learned some hiragana. I've practiced for the last 10 days for 5-10 minutes a day!

I will be speaking and reading Japanese soon.
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is the tatsumoto poster a bot
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wotd: 顔面偏差値
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kao men hen sa choku?
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>>47785938
こんちゃ! こんちゃ! (*´ω`*)
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>>47785950
gan men hen sa chi
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>>47785951
I made a mistake in writing - こにちわ
I think this is better? こんにちは
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>>47785960
yes こんにちは is correct :3
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I’ve reached half a year of Japanese study, idk why Anki didn’t track that second day there but I have not missed a day
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we don't believe you
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You better believe me right now
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>>47785943
I want to have sex with Mirimu
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>>47786051
sounds great! ;3
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kakkoii sounds right but kakkoyokata? wtf?
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Can someone explain to me the difference between 代わる and 代える?
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no
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I’ve realized it
AJATT is the only way for consistency
Eliminate the ability of choice over what you do
This should hopefully make it so I don’t delay my immersion until like 11 pm
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>>47785938
Congrats. If you have serious intentions of learning Japanese then you’ll have to put it more time than 15 minutes a day but it’s a step in the right direction, so today we celebrate.
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yea celebrate by posting a racist conspiracy theorist. that makes sense.
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>>47786094
it's just a past tense
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>>47769718
Maybe too late but whatever.
I had this problem and did this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/yhvagp/how_to_correctly_display_japanese_fonts_on/
>Enable Developer Options
>Enable USB Debugging and USB Debugging (Security)
>Setup adb
>Open PowerShell (if you are using Windows) and run these commands:
>>adb shell
>>settings put system system_locales en-US,ja-JP
>Reboot the device
Ignore Xiaomi shit
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>>47786168
how did it?
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>>47786191
it says こう can't you read?
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>>47780668
try archive org
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are there any anime/manga/vn when a character gets bullied at school so hard that he goes on rampage and kills everyone?
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no you need to learn chinese
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>>47786330
not everyone but yeah
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>>47786369
erotic
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fuck anime is gay
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vn >>>>>>>>>>>>> wn >>> ln >>>>>>>>> manga >>>>>> anime
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>>47786205
どうして ;_;
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>>47786418
俺が知るものか
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quality of story:
manga > anime >>> wn > ln >>> vn
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>>47786412
>>47786442
true true
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whats a wisual novel?
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>>47786369
kino. name?
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>>47786412
factually correct and also very based
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ViVid Strike
i ended up dropping it but that clip was cool
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>>47786432
>知るものか
当たりがキツい。。。
そうして人類は衰退しました(´・ω:;.:...
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>>47786448
web novel
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>>47786412
>>47786442
is it the true in the English version? :)
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You can't even speak English so I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>47786539
let me know so you can help me learn English ;3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnSUWIyQqIc
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>>47786119
You’ll be ok
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i still don't know when to use shikamo vs soremo vs soreni vs soreto
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>>47785896
rikaitan is trash too.

all you need is a paper dictionary
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>>47786597
wakari masen :3
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>>47782073
i've seen it written like that before and knew the meaning but wasn't sure if it was read differently anymore
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I don’t get how people learn with eroge
The horny mind is not the same as one that can pay attention to reading
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>>47786702
lol i admit when i read pure nukige with the intention of jacking off i skipped a ton so i see what you're saying
but if it ends up being unexceptionally compelling you do end up reading a lot too and the better you get the more you can read in horny mode dick in hand too, i guess you're practicing to read fast
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>>47786708
I also just require too much yomitan to comfortable read with one hand
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>>47786708
>lol i admit when i read pure nukige with the intention of jacking off i skipped a ton so i see what you're saying
not even have you not completed a single vinny you don't even read the lore intensive H scenes ... my disappointment is immerserable, qm : (
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>>47786702
the buildup definitely made me read for longer and i used mtl during h scenes
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vns suck as fap material because of the pacing even within the erotic scene. doujin does it better.
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>>47786724
i've completed a handful, but true i've started reading and quit a shit ton probably easily over a 100
dunno, few VNs have managed to hook me, maybe 2-3 at most, i want to like the medium but it rarely clicks with me
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maybe this guys isn't such a 物凄い faggot after all
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vns are rather expensive when you think of them as educational materials :/
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even moreso if you think of them as what they actually are: trash
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how is free expensive
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i still respect qm, but damn... i didn’t want to think of him as someone who uses the CTRL key.
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>>47786779
i didn't actually literally skip things
i just meant that when i was really horny and reading a jackoff-game i would essentially gloss over a lot of text, basically reading really fast and just ignoring every time i didn't immediately click
don't think i never literally skipped until the porn, like the build-up is important too

oh and i never did this for games i actually cared to read, like rance for example
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>>47786772
which game makers do you like? if they don't make a profit, they'll go out of business
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>>47786790
you sound like someone who votes
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>>47786790
light (already out of business, blew all their money on making a failed gacha game). Only vn company I'd really care to support. To be fair, I did.
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>>47786790
maybe they should make things easily purchasable in the west if they cared
last time i checked dlsite is literally blocked in germany, they redirect you to google and i've bought stuff on there
clearly they don't give a shit about western fans and they don't expect any of us to know japanese, so i'll happily keep pirating
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>>47786788
that's the same thing. and don't ever tell me anything about what you did when you were horny ever again. the thought of your pale hairless atrophied chest is revolting
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>>47786815
お前がばら撒いてるんかーい! >:[
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yh qms right
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rate my method qm >>47782426
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Is it immoral for a dekinai and a dekiru to be in a relationship. Seems like the difference in ability could cause a power gap.
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>>47786856
shouldn't be an issue for you, now way you can find a dekiru gf
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>>47786864
the dekiru gf hates pirates though
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lol where did he go
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I cannot fucking understand anime anymore
I’ve seen like 4 months worth of anime in Japanese but now I just don’t know what the fuck anyone is saying ever
Idk what happened
Did my brain reset this is all literally just meaningless noise to me
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>>47786910
could just be the show you're watching
i often have shows where i understand 100% of everything for all episodes and then i put on some SOL shit and all of a sudden i'm not catching what they're saying
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we should do calligraphy, too φ(..)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY4o8QmvrEg

played this demo and it sucked
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(JMDict) 求: request, want, wish for, require, demand
(KKLC) 求: SEEK
just goes to show much better it is for lurning
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>>47786956
>Cosplayers invade Shibuya from Akiba
:/
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How many anki reviews do you do a day? I was at a point where I was doing 3 hour reviews daily and got burned out.
How do you keep them from adding up?
Example:
>Add 20 new vocab cards a day
>Do this for 1 month
>At the end of the month the review card list is more than an hour each day
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>>47786956
yeah looks lame, for some reason japan has something with lame unresponsive action rpgs with boring ass lame stories that don't even manage to look good on paper
another one i have in mind that i actually played to completion is astral chain, looks like similar kind of slop
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>>47786919
That’s probably true
It’s all the military / fast speaking in full metal panic that’s fucking me
All the normal shit is just fine
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>>47786975
i did one day of reviews this month which took about 12 minutes but this is very late stage learning

when you're early and adding a lot of cards you need an efficient card format, you shouldn't take more than 5 seconds per cards on average

for that you need an efficient card format and review method like anime cards

that way daily reviews should take a maximum of 30 minutes a day, anything over that is really painful so if you're over 30 minutes you need to change things up
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>>47786975
if you aren't already, doing them on my phone and spreading them out throughout the day instead of doing the entire day's worth at one time made it a lot more manageable.
my reviews while shitting have a higher success rate anyways
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>>47786996
I need to get mobile then. Better than this. Thanks for the suggestion

>>47786986
Do you mean if you don't recognize the card within 5 seconds to press HARD and move on?
What efficient format did you use before you arrived at late stage?
I can't do the 3 or really crazy 6-8 hour anki grind a day anymore because I eventually take weeks off and I don't want to do that
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moe is right doe
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why would an elephant and a monkey dine on a frog's head...
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is there some simple, decent-looking Anki mining note setup guide? I've been using JPminingnote for some few months, but the format apparently isn't compatible with doing cards on your phone, and I'm not going to be able to do Anki behind my PC for a while because of sudden developments at my job.
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>>47787029
>Do you mean if you don't recognize the card within 5 seconds to press HARD and move on?
you shouldn't even be thinking about it for 5 seconds i feel like, if it takes that long just fail the card

>What efficient format did you use before you arrived at late stage?
i still use the same, anime cards
you don't have to invest long hours into anki, like i said do a max of 30 minutes
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>>47787102
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/151553357

here
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>>47787106
thank you! would you also happen to have any opinion on sentence vs vocab cards for a somewhat beginner-stage learner? I'm not sure on the exact amount(I deleted my previous deck at 3k mature), but I'm probably around 4000~ vocab known and currently reading summerpockets reflectionblue while texthooking some stuff here and there if that gives you any idea of my level, and not completely sure if I should stay with EN-JP, use sentence or vocab cards etc.
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crazy how i can just watch any anime and i just… i just understand it
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i can watch any anime and understand almost none of it
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I can watch Takagi and understand everything. wagmi
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>>47787137
don't do sentence cards because they are a waste of time and take too long
do the card format linked, and don't read the sentence every time only for failed cards, keep average review time under 5 seconds, your number one goal should be to correctly answer and learn the readings/meanings and your number two goal to make it as fast and painless as possible, only use the sentences to remind yourself when you fail
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how ab u stop watching coal drop the T and watch akagi
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>>47787103
I was thinking more of the spacing and new additions. Sorry I'm unfamiliar with anime cards. Is that a particular deck or something else?
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I wanna watch akagi but i don't know how to play mahjong :|
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well u dont need to know all the hand scoring just the basic rules
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>>47787151
thanks! (^o^)/ I'll set it up then. I was only using sentence cards at the start because I thought having more context would be useful to get used to reading and retain meanings in general, but it seems much faster and a good idea to move away from it yeah once you have a little basis.
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>>46392945
I just need a J-E dict for a few hours while I don't have wifi. What should I use, 斎藤和英大?
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>>47787155
>spacing
spacing? anki takes care of intervals

>new additions
you mine with yomichan on pc and jidoujisho on mobile
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>>47787201
Yomichan is good. I'll check out jidoushjisho. Haven't tried that yet.
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>>47787161
You can watch it without knowing the game. We pretty much all knew hack shit about it back around the time it aired. I literally had no idea how the game was played at all but you can largely still follow it by the narration.
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>>47787201
wait so you virtually read no vns to get to the point you're at? did you really comb through like 100 jp subbed anime to fluency?
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ah wagatta, kenkyusha with EPWING it is
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Thread is almost dead so feel free to respond next thread if anyone cares
How do you guys get your immersion hours up?
I am watching 1 hour of anime a day and was reading an LN for an hour a day, but that’s it
I can probably force myself to do just that but I can’t find a way to do more
I don’t really know, would passive listening / Japanese only twitter and YouTube really count as much immersion?
Or should I just not worry about the literal time each day
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lol what
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>>47787300
I just wanna get my numbers up but can’t force myself to watch like 10 anime episodes a day so wtf else can I do
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>>47787312
listen to a podcast or something throughout the day faggot
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>>47787284
immersion isn't real, you should read and look up words

also stfu
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>>47787312
do what you enjoy the most and do it in japanese
if you cant do that you are either
1. depressed and using japanese as a way to escape from it (more common than you'd think)
2. have concentration problems
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>>47787317
Does that really count, listening to something while doing an English activity? Gacha on Eng account, writing, etc
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immersion
https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm35483087
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immersion
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm36274130
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is studying japanese as a way to escape depression a bad thing. i feel called out (not that anon though)
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well it depends if you will actually enjoy and use japanese when ur out of it

there are quite a lot of cases esp ajatters that end up throwing it all away and saying fuck those chinks
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fair
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慈愛に 敬愛に 純愛に 情愛に 親愛に 性愛に 友愛に!
can you read these?
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jiai
keiai
junnai
jouai
sinnai
seiai
yuuai
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Should I quiz myself on On readings it really seems like a cheat
Maybe I’m just retarded but even though I’m at 3,500 words on Anki I still don’t even have a lot of kanji memorized and words that should be simple are like brand new
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I cant anymore with this language.......
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youtu.be/PctwqCsyrzY
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>>47787466
>Selbstbefriedigungsakt
makes sense to me
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>>47787252
what do you mean virtually read none? i said i read several to completion including multiple rated 50+ hours and read like a hundred to the midway point and then dropped them
swear to god people here read whatever they want
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>>47787284
Honestly I think passive listening is bullshit and your mind is largely going to just filter it out. I think if your doing 2 hours a day and keeping up with it, it's better than forcing yourself to do more. I'd say go at your own pace and don't force it too hard.
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>>47787546
stfu negative nancy
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after all who cares if it takes 2 years or 20 years
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well i wouldnt say 20 more like 2-6 is reasonable but yea doesnt matter if ur having fun along the way cuz itll just happen naturally
the only annoying bit is doing ur reps
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i appreciate your positive outlook
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>>47787556
Passive listening has an underlying purpose thats not immediately apparent: make your brain feel comfortable listening to a language other than your native one.
If you just cram in words and expect to know how to decipher real time speaking without your brain having enough training to recognize the language flow properly you will have lots of troubles ahead.
Don't meme about it, take each and every single step seriously if you aim to truly be better or else you can just be like that foreign guy that trained precisely only kanji to pass that ridiculous Japanese Exam and be one of the very few foreigners to ever do it but then completely suck at actual communication.
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>make your brain feel comfortable listening to a language other than your native one.
aka an utterly useless skill
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lotta dunning kruger radiation coming from that post
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>>47787610
vocaroo
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>>47787312
id blow my brains out too if i had to watch hours of anime everyday to learn jp. thank god im a semi normie and i can enjoy youtube and occasional otaku content.
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>i casually watch autistic japanese targeted youtube videos
>im somewhat of a normie
okay retard
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>>47787603
ur saying my polish, german and spanish is... useless?
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>baba
:|
>babaa
! >:O !
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>>47787312
you need to find anime that is compelling and interesting to you
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>>47787741
I like anime, of course I watch things that I compelling lmao
No way am I gonna watch a full 13 ep season every single day just for immersion numbers to go up that’s insane
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>>47768704
Has any of you by any miracle have this book
実力アップ!日本語能力試験N2「文のルール」..
in pdf or some way for me to read?

I was reading this one in particular before losing access to it.

If anyone has it, i would be super super grateful.
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>>47787754
damn look at the size of those. unironically hot
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>>47787754
any thread that does?
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lol but also true
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12ep@22min is 4.4 hours (264mins) is doable, just read for another 3.6 hours and you've pretty much done a work day worth of immersion, no this isn't even hardcore like the ajatt method
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>>47787779
How can you possibly have interest in one show for that long
That’s 3 movies worth of the same series, every single day
Let alone having to I dunno go to work and do other shit
You’re insane
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I read 20 pages of manga and watched a 10 minute youtube video today, a good day of immersion
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>>47787786
for an otaku NEET this should be baby easy but honestly i can only clock in around 4+ hours when im reading vinnies i never manage to listen for more than 2 hours max anime
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>>47787792
same, plus ~6 hours of immersion on djt when people post japanese sentences.
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>>47787747
???
if it was compelling you would have no problem watching an infinite number of episodes
if the content is compelling you have to force yourself to stop
clearly it's not compelling
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>>47787845
by that definition nothing in life is compelling except strategy videogames.
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>>47787845
That’s a fair point. I’m awake for 16 hours so I should just consume content for 16 hours, if I can’t it must secretly be bad
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It's just more compelling to post here for 16 hours a day
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whats with all the ngmi retards
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>>47787863
and youre a pussy lol
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>>47787776
>>47787754
kys
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>>47787859
maybe that is the case for you
or you just need to search more for what compels you
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>>47787890
nah i probably just have undiagnosed adhd. need drugs to fix me.
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All you gotta do to not make immersion a fucking chore is find some funny youtuber you can kinda follow what they're doing even if you dont get what they are saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhUjXTkcXoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84BlH0Vx1lQ
like this.
from seeing these dumbasses win at crane games, you get shit like ぐるぐるアタック meaning "spinning spinning attack" and some casual expressons.
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i think qm isn't far off. people usually keep doing a thing because they get something out of it: fun.
if you're really having difficulty consuming a lot of japanese its either like he said, not compelling, or you think you're into japanese while not actually being into it at all
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i just remember guragura because gura is a drunk retard
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>>47787909
nobody cares kys
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>>47787909
i think people just take learning itself as a chore and dont do it.

all you gotta do to get works in your head is to play japanese shit even with subtitles.
So when something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsurtt6kMSA is around you might not get most of it, but you hear "ooooh mahou shoujo means magical girl" when you read mahou or shoujo it on some textbook.
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anime sucks just watch something thats actually good. like vtubers
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>>47787909
Yes you should consume for a long amount of time and push yourself to do more but seriously suggesting to watch a season of anime a day is just asinine
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>>47787916
also this shit has her spin when she says guruguru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNS0HkLdUMM&t=121s
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i hate vtubers. i wish there were a lot of female japanese streamers who were real.
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>>47787942
https://litter.catbox.moe/co2nf1.webm
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>>47787956
started bobbing my head side to side
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I don't like anime (nothing against it, i don't watch TV shows or movies either), manga or light novels. Are videogames and porn (not JAV) good enough for immersion? What about japanese boards like 5ch?
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you dont live in japan
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>>47787965
yes, just play them in japanese with subs.

if you are at a point you care about reading kanji like, for real, get the subtitles in japanese too
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I immerse with hypnosis asmr
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>>47787973
share
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not sure why but i feel most motivated during rainy days
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never thought about it. rain is comfy though
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Someone 16 hours have gone by and all I did today was watch one anime episode and write 1k words of a story
How can time pass this quickly
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did u do ur reps tho
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just took a shower with my wife
悠々自適
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just took a shower with your mom
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mom is this true
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thats not funny
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New.
>>47788583
>>47788583
>>47788583



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