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>Drones are the future of warf-AACK!!
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>>65034209
I’m mostly worried about reliability and the ability to eat all the ammo. I’ve heard some lighter loads can fail to cycle semis
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>>65034203
SA unless you're a fudd
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>>65034222
Just stop being poor and get a 1301
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>>65034222
Sounds like you'd feel safer with an American made pump action.
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>>65034226
Compelling arguments, being a rude fuck must help you a lot in life.

I’ve looked at this closely, and one of the clearest, most tangible objectives of any ground move would be the small islands Iran took by force from Gulf states in the 1970s, especially Siri and Abu Musa.

They’re strategic, symbolic, and relatively low risk. The U.S. could realistically help return them to the UAE if Iran refuses to cooperate, instantly creating real leverage in negotiations.

Unlike places like Kharg or Qeshm, these islands sit far enough from the Iranian mainland to be harder targets for drones and short range missiles. That makes them much easier to hold and defend, rather than turning into constant strike zones.

Let me know if you think I’m wrong here.

Personally, I don’t see much value in targeting Kharg. If the goal is to disrupt Iran’s oil exports, the U.S. could achieve that at sea just out of the strait by intercepting shipments, without committing troops to a fixed, exposed position. Seizing the island would deliver similar disruption but at a much higher cost, with limited upside in terms of actual oil gained and a significant risk of infrastructure being destroyed.

On top of that, Kharg sits well within range of even basic unguided rockets and the newest optic fiber drone systems, making it a constant liability to defend. By contrast, the smaller islands are far, already have airstrips and could support defensive systems, including short range interceptors useful to protect Dubai. Overall being far more manageable positions.
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>>65033561
>The threat, unfortunately has been enough to stop most (not all) ships from transiting.
*fortunately
If this ultimately gets the world to stop putting up with the brownoids in israel then it's a great outcome for everyone.
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>>65034157
I’d say if anything it proves the necessity of the operations. Iran is not a rational actor and they’ve proven that the rest of the world shouldn’t let them have power over something as critical as the strait.
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>>65034164
>Iran is not a rational actor
They are fighting back using the only leverage they have against a perfidious and irrational actor (the brown state of israel). That is quite rational.
>and they’ve proven that the rest of the world shouldn’t let them have power over something as critical as the strait.
On the contrary it seems like the only thing that might stop brown israeli aggression in the region.
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>>65034171
Do you have an actual point or do you just want to call israel brown? You don’t have to reply to me to do that

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That China is well out of reach of the current US military capabilities.
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>>65034109
He still needs to shill for another 6 years to save up enough to move away from India.
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>>65034153
>to move away from India
I would have thought that China is the last country an Indian would shill for
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china haters are strange beings
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>>65032785
>the red sun that shines forever on its borders driven forward by the Mandate of Heaven
Is Japanese occupation back on the menu?

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The picture is terrible but you get the idea. Why aren't there any beefier versions of this to sue as a snap caps or dummy round? It would make dry fire practice a lot more entertaining.
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>>65033891
>Wait, those were fucking single use?
I should have said single-shot. You can indeed refill them with air.
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>>65033943
That stuff doesn't work in a mold. It takes fucking forever to dry and it shrinks as it does so. You could cast 2-part silicone or urethane though. Or just use earplugs. that's a lot cheaper and a lot less work.
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>>65034086
great suggestion! thanks!
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After looking around I found more of the wax + primer varieties. These guys make special casings where you can just drop in the primer, and they sell the wax projectiles in bulk https://gunslingeremporium.com/wax-bullets-shells-accessories/

Howeer, not really what I'm after. Was hoping to find something that uses spring tension inside the case and the firing pin striking the "primer" would cause it to release the spring. I have a 3d printer so I might just try designing something myself.
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>>65034149
just make it completly hollow and use the force of the firing pin hitting it to launch your projectile.you can launch pencils into the ceiling with a normal gun.

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Pretty sure this is the first time an AWACS has been taken out by enemy fire, even if on the ground.
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>>65030750
They're now saying TWO AWACS were damaged/destroyed, not just one. NPR reported they'd confirmed this.
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>>65033739
Supposedly also up to 5 (yes, five) EC-130H Compass Call got fucked
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>>65033751
>5 (yes, five) EC-130H Compass Call
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>>65032488
Iran does(did) have an air force though
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>>65027100
It lifts oil prices and shits over the European economy, of course it helps him.

Does anyone here have experience with 10m air pistol shooting? I wanted get into some form of bullseye competitive shooting that isn't two gun matches since it wouldn't involve me having to run around like a jackass. Plus .177 cal competition pellets are far cheaper than having to stock up on real ammo. I was looking around for an air pistol and I noticed there are massive price jumps.
>Air Venturi Steyr knockoff
While it is only ~$650 online people seem to complain about the grips and also don't appear to be all that accurate after you get out of being a novice
>Hammerli AP20 Pro
I want to get one of these since they seem to be an okay price, but I am unsure what they are lacking being $1000 cheaper than a Steyr, Morini, or even a Pardini
>Steyr, Morini, and Pardini
I noticed most Olympic shooters go with either a Steyr LP10 (pic rel) but I am unsure what these three offer or differ over the other options other than I know most of the offerings from Morini have an electronic trigger and I know I am not overly crazy over that. But I am not sure dropping $2200-2500 on a pistol when I am unsure if I would even like the sport is wise to do when just starting out.
>Used pistols
I see older pistols like Walther CPs or Feinwerkbau pistols go for a lot less on Fuddjoker or ebay, but I am unsure if spare parts exist or if the air tubes have service lives from being constantly filled and unfilled, seals, trigger parts, etc. are hassles I want to deal with.

Ty for coming to my retard TED talk.
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>>65030871
I was looking around for one, but they are fairly hard to find here.
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>>65029263
I'm in NZ so the used market doesn't really exist. Our options are club notice boards /club email, auctions and trade me (our fb marketplace).
Good competition airguns usually sell instantly when listed so you have to wait for them to pop up.
Auctions can have dirt cheap air pistols but they are mostly old webley break actions.

Clubs will usually be the best bet, ask around someone will have one. Or you can borrow the club one.

>>65029517
>Then it's just a matter of practice. I recommend buying a class or coaching session, since its the fastest way to get established with the fundamentals. You can teach yourself eventually, but it's impossible to overstate how much faster you'll get through the beginner steps with someone competent telling you what to do and giving feedback.

This is very true if your new to shooting.


>>65030871
I started on one of these, Its much better than the toy style airguns but i jumped 30 points by getting the pardini.

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I can't decide on a rear sight width.
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Hämmerli AP20 is what i started shooting 10m air pistol with. Its perfectly fine and capable to reach 575+ results.
If you can buy used air pistols Steyr LP2 is excellent value for the money, trigger is better and overall build quality aswell.
What I personally dont like about AP20 and all Walther high end air pistols is the fact that the adapter for the compressed air bottle is made of steel with rather fine threads and the other side of the compressed air cartridge is made of aluminium. Therefore it can be easily damaged.
Steyr on the other hand both uses brass and coarse thread. Its indestructible
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>>65032096
Duly noted anon, ty for the info.

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>Images (limit reached)
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>>65031620
Humans tend to be pretty bad at guessing heights at a glance in general from what I've noticed, I think a large part of it comes from the fact that our eyes aren't at the very top of our heads, we have around a good half a foot from where we see things and don't really take that into consideration much which just totally throws off our sense of scale.
Plus, "It's just an extra two feet" doesn't sound like a lot on paper until you actually bust out the measuring tape, I'd wager if you asked most people how tall they thought their ceilings were in an average North American home without them knowing the residential average, they'd say something closer to 9' than 8'
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>>65034045
Realistically, given their physical strength combined with their Human intelligence, Umas would have become Lords, Kings and whatnot all over the World. We would probably live in a warrior/matriarchal society dominated by them, at least until the modern era
In hindsight, Humans in the Umaverse are lucky Umas seem to be content with living normal, mundane lives
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>We would probably live in a warrior/matriarchal society dominated by them, at least until the modern era
I wonder how men would be treated.
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>>65034001
Trust me I do

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>uses less metal than a sword
>can be carried in your belt like a sword
Why didn't more cultures have a tomahawk culture? I think only the Vikings, injuns and Americans used tomahawks
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>>65032695
Yeah except that's wrong. People would turn up with spears, other poles, or bows, along with swords or daggers. Nobody was showing up with their random farm tool hatchet, because it'd be a shit weapon and you, a medieval man, would know war was a part of life and make at least done minimal investment in being able to defend yourself.

On top of this, axes and hammers for fighting are completely different from working tools, are vastly less convenient than the dagger or knife you WOULD own and wear day to day, and are generally much less useful to a man with little or no armor than literally any other type of weapon, as they're absolutely shit for defending yourself with.
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Like all weapons, a tomahawk is a compromise and those compromises made the most sense in America where much of the fighting was done with bows and muskets/rifles, and was fought by smaller groups that had to logistically support themselves. So it made sense have a light weight, cheap, easy to maintain/repair useful innawoods tool that could be pressed into combat when needed. 98% of the time it's gonna be use as a tool.
From personal experience I can say that a tomahawk is a very handy tool to have innawoods
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>>65032250
Actually, cutlasses were used more often to cut ropes than they were to cut lasses.
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>>65032695
>Do you think the peasantry could afford swords?
Do you get your medieval knowledge from Game of Thrones?
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>>65032131
>Why didn't more cultures have a tomahawk culture? I think only the Vikings, injuns and Americans used tomahawks

Every culture on earth had combat axes of some kind.

Ancient Mesopotamians used bronze axes.

Ancient Egyptians used bronze axes.

Ancient celts used socketed iron axes.

Ancient mesoamericans used copper, stone and obsidian axes.

Persians fighting Greeks used iron axes. They were famous for double headed axes.


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>BST (Buy, Sell, Trade) GENERAL
Post your funz, gear, etc.
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>>65031334
Gen 1-3 it was being used my gen 3 34
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Steiner DBAL-PL visible laser, IR laser, IR illuminator & white light. Manufactured in September 2015 when they were still doing business as Laser Devices Inc. Asking $500
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I also got a Burris fullfield E 4.5-14x42mm im looking to sell.Nothing wrong with it just need something with more eye relief
Asking 150$ shipped or if your within an hour or so of Asheboro i could meet half way
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What weapons could be used to accomplish this?
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>>65033062
I doubt Trump knows how to play standard chess.
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>>65013846
I don't know but, please God make it happen.
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Wasn't there something this year that literally was transmitted through shit in india?
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create a monster flu virus with hooks to genetic marker based on ethnicity
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>>65014151
>mfw

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Post gear, discuss gear.
On the edge / Tactical Hood edition
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>>65033414
Thankfully my kids don’t seem to have it. I’m undiagnosed but I’m pretty sure, likely due to circumcision and vaccination
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>>65032878
>Think long and hard about this one anon. How would I get 6 magazines to the fight if I didnt have 6 pouches. if I remove one mag from a pouch, holy shit an open pouch I could place a magazine in. Shocking I know.
This is why no one should ever listen to inexperienced, attention seeking tripfags.
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>chink soft armor skirts and MCB cloak posting continues
>A2 having a melty over dump pouches
I'm trying to color match choccy chip and failing
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>>65033807
Yeah I gotta be honest A2 is losing the dumpy wars.
I recommend asking JinWuDun for a choccie chip IIIA skort and then bacraft for a custom choccie chip cape.
Become gulf war samurai. Ghost of Baghdad. The Man Who Holed the Saddam. You will surpass even Bush. I will award you the title of Big Bush.

You are a true patriot.
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>>65023454
what hood is this

>Video of a Shahed drone being shot down by a battle-tested Ukrainian P1-Sun interceptor drone in the Middle East

Now we know why Zelensky was doing his gulf states tour
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>>65033800
I don't really see anyone speaking highly of le orange man anymore, except maybe on twitter, but that's mostly bots these days. Drumpf is just old and isn't funny like he used to be. Besides I found his treatment of Zelenskyy personally distasteful, and generally speaking most people here are pro Ukraine so that probably matters too.

Besides, Zoomers have gone into their niche political sub communities that only agree on despising anyone who has any power. So I always expect there to be spam about anyone who's ever won an election outside the indian subcontinent. It's just a fact of life at this point.
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>>65033800
DRUUUUMMPF TWO SCOOPS
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>>65033968
>Besides I found his treatment of Zelenskyy personally distasteful
i swear the yuroid posters on /k/ are so fucking funny to Americans like me who don't really care so emotionally and personally; just like to see US intelligence get ziggers blown up
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>>65033742
he would laugh at you and have you arrested (deserved)
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>constant tds and nogunz seething
>chinkshill getting uppity again
wonder what happened now

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Inside a tunnel used by rebbels against rome.
How did they manage to live in such a cramped place?
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>>65033906
the People's Liberation Front of Judea
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>>65033950
>frustrating
for me it's just upsetting to know I share a world with people either too retarded to comprehend reality or shameless enough to lie about it. being wrong is one thing but I can't stand the fake it till you make it face-saving routine every normalnigger practices
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>>65034007
Normies understand an intrinsic aspect of the human experience which is that nothing matters or even exists once it stops being talked about and truth is one distraction away from changing. They don't care enough and can't be made to care enough. Their trifling, trivial lives and aspirations will crush an eternity of history and meaning like a bulldozer to make way.
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>>65033910
the ones Tolkien based the dwarves on?
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>>65033950
it's like if a netouyou were to point at pearl harbor and claim they beat the USA
on the other hand though, I also don't get why people on /pol/ would gloat about the subsequent destruction of judea, when its scattering of the jewish people is why they ended up all across the western world: had this not happened, then they would be nothing more than another levantine ethnoreligious group no more internationally relevant than the druze

Congratulations Commander Anon,

Due to unforeseen complications with ISR your predecessor was exploded seventeen times taking his daughter to school.

You are given a simple order:
Survive.

How do you go about harassing the US military enough to force capitulation? Do you base any of your tactics or strategies off similarly successful asymmetrical belligerents that have also repelled American invasion?

Remember, any use of materiel will likely result in its destruction. Your resources are limited but the resolve of those under your command is infinite. Surrender of any kind is not an option.

How do you proceed?
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>>65032786
>Ground invasion would be the worst thing for Iran
This. Americans should stop being chikens about it. Just mobilise a million or something of your prisoners if you don't want to waste trained soldiers and land then on Iran mainland. Support them from the air and with drones, promise freedom of they take tehiran. Will work. Arm them with M48 Pattons if you don't wanna waste abrams, I know you have lots of them on the shelf.
Might hire some african merks as well.
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>>65033050
Yeah, sounds more like western involvement in WWII was most certainly a mistake, and Roosevelt and Churchill were vile sons of bitches that should be vilified. The shit you posted, >>65032951, is retarded, and would make the situation far worse. Better for the bleeding heart faggots to hear and cry about it, than try and take arms when you cut them off.
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>>65032630
This is literally the highest IQ post I have seen on this board all year and nobody responding to you is getting it.
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>>65032951
How many more wars do you jarheads have to say the same lines about before you understand that k/d does not fucking matter at all
Go back to the basics. War is the continuation of politics by other means. Therefore, before you go to war, you must identify political objectives, and these must be objectives which you know for a fact can be achieved through a war.
The winner of a war is the one who has more completely fulfilled their political objectives. You morons keep getting into wars where you have no political objectives besides fantasy land stuff where after you hang around long enough, local populations decide they love being occupied, actually. And in doing so, you create political objectives for your enemies that are very easy to achieve - usually just "survive in some way shape or form long enough that America leaves. Inflict at least enough damage by any methodology that you show up in the New York Times."
At this point it looks to me like regime change war is fundamentally impossible these days, unless you have a large class of eager collaborators ready to run the country for you, BEFORE the war begins. You can't build up your friendly government after the war starts.
And if you can't achieve your political aims, you should not start the war.
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>>65032951
>20 year war
>just a few more weeks and we'll win, trust me bro

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Seems like NATO is under alot of flak lately.

Let's share some fun/memorable stories about joint-trainings, deployments together, exchanging MRE's and good banter to reminisce about the good old times.
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Good to see that my thread went into the intended direction.
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>>65034104
Holy ESL...
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>>65033915
So the idea here is that if NATO was not a thing, the US would spend 0% of its GDP on subs, nukes, carriers and tanks?
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>>65034118
>Less Abrams have been lost in combat than Leopards
Ok, now tell me how many Abrams and how many Leopard are in use there.
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>>65034133
You have to be the dumbest motherfucker on the board to think a NATO thread would go any other way during war tourism season


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