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Gonna post some infographics here to get the ball rollin
>>62481656> spiritus is overpriced slop and it's morally justified to get any clones of their gear. despite starting off as an airsoft gear company like ferro, spiritus' owner didn't stop being a manchild and isn't allowed to be the public face of the company for acting like a manchild when questioned about the quality of their gear and what justifies their costThe really funny thing about these Instagram brands is how hard they lean into the "muh faceless elite tacticool operator" meme, despite nobody in the military ever using their stuff. It's almost 100% larpers and airsofters, and the actual tactical utility of their gear is basically unknown.
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>>62483063>despite nobody in the military ever using their stuffThere are definitely guys in the military using Spiritus stuff, but it's not like that gives Spiritus any sort of special street cred. There are guys using stuff from a bunch of different companies.Spiritus has come up with a few interesting pieces of gear, but probably the most lucrative for them has been the concept behind selling $200 micro rigs piecemeal to clueless goobers to then shell out another $200-$250 for a Thing 2 and more pouches so the damn thing can carry more than a few mags, a buttplug and some Skittles.
>>62483037>>62483043>>62483045>>62483049TY.
>>62483301Spiritus gear has never been issued. They've never won a single contract. Some guys can run their stuff privately, but SOCOM frowns heavily on that, and regular Army and USMC guys are rarely gear queers, so it's probably like a few dozen guys at most. lol
>>62483314No shit it's never been issued. You said nobody's using it when obviously guys are. Now you're saying "uhh it's probably just a few dozen guys." Maybe, I have no idea, and you don't either, so why are you so asspained about it?
>>62483380> You said nobody's using it when obviously guys areHaha, sure they are. Where did you see that, instagram?
Aaight, I got multicam stuff, buying a flecktarn double TACO style mag pouch would be shiet or not?
>>62483579Mixing and matching is fine. Tends to look cool, unless you go overboard. Multicam over solid green or tan is also cool.
what jacket is this?
>>62483063Spiritus Systems must give their gear to Green Berets because some of their kit breakdown videos have featured GBs from that National Guard/Reservist Special Forces Group.>>62483072Ferro Concepts sucks huge amounts of LEO cock and must give out their shit to SWAT teams on the regular.
these boots good or nah?https://www.ebay.com/itm/304930970275
>>62483917The Bean.
>>62484262No wait sorry, that's not the same jacket. Disregard.
>>62483063What do you mean by the tactical utility of their gear? Do you just mean the gay ass zipper system thing? Because it's just a plate carrier. The only tactical utility is to hold plates and have molle. What could possibly fail?
opinions on the blackhawk RRV?I think it's a good design, a better version of the tap, problem is the plate pocket which I dont really care about, and mine has the rear plate packet too but this makes it much hotter than with the normal straps, also for some reason the back panel isn't completely compatible with the main front so you have 2 random buckles flopping around after installing
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>>62483301guys in the military use rothco stuff too lol
>>62486950Yeah, Rothco and Condor was littered all over guys' gear in the GWOT. I wonder if the quality is any better or worse than back then? I've never owned any Rothco or Condor stuff.
What do plate bag mounted "dangler" pouches do that fanny packs don't also do but better? I bought meme related on ebay, and also borrowed a friend's dangler pouch and found that while both bounced when I ran, the fanny pack seemed to not be as noticeable, plus it was significantly easier to access my HRT pills from it without needing to blindly finger it like the dangler pouch. Not really complaining its just surprising to me that I found absolutely zero value in a dangler pouch compared to a fanny pack for the odd things that weren't important enough to put on my pc but too important to bury in my pack
>>62483030Anyone know where I can get decent quality cheap cold war stuff (any nation) in or around PA? Online is good too, so long as they deliver and don't charge out the ass for it
>>62487069I get you're trying to be hilarious but you're pretty retardedfigure out what you're using your pouches for before you consoommaxxfor example if you have stupid shit in a fanny pack, it would be worth considering keeping shit you would need on you when using your pc, or using it as a medkit (since you only use your IFAK for yourself having extra is good if you come across someone else)things to think about while you're auditioning for the chapelle show or practising your stand up
shill me some military prescription glasses that are ballistic rated or have inserts, ill enlist in a bit and need new glasses for that
>>62487069Fanny pros:>easier to access contents>can be maneuvered around the bodyDangler pros:>attached to PC, one less thing to donUltimately these differences won't make any difference for you once you kill yourself.
>>62483072flannel shirt and cryes has to be the gayest look there is
shill me a good nvg pouch for pvs14
>>62485834He means their gear has not been widely issued and no objective consensus can be reached with respect to its durability in a military environment. You could get the entire 75th Ranger Regiment to fill in a survey on the JPC and get good data on what most Rangers like about the plate carrier, what wears out, how long it lasts, what could be improved.Some fat redditor who owns a limited edition desert tiger stripe Spiritus LV119 can easily make a lengthy post about how he’s owned a LV119 for 5 years and thinks it’s the best plate carrier ever while it sits on a hanger in his bedroom next to his funkopop collection.There isn’t a sufficient sample size of Spiritus plate carriers subjected to similar stressors over a measurable period of time like the JPC or IOTV.
>>62487693I use a USMC padded pouch for my thermal
Introducing the worst guide this thread has ever seen.
Best handheld flash light?
Does anyone have experience with SafeGuard vests? They seem to be pretty reasonably priced for what they are.
>>62488626Not sure about "best." Some people swear by the Surefire G2X series. Streamlight has a pretty good variety of handhelds. I carry a Cloud Defensive MCH-HC that I got at a good discount and I like it quite a bit.My brother recently picked up a few 18650 lights off AliExpress that have a good reputation over on r/flashlights (yes, reddit, I know) and we went out and tested them recently, and I was blown away by how well some of them performed. For like $15-$20, a couple of them compared very well with my Cloud light. Not sure how well they'd do in drop tests and water immersion tests, but for $20 they're cheap enough that you could buy 5 of the damn things for the price of a Surefire. I'm considering grabbing a few just to toss in drawers around the house for power outages.
>>62487069I have a longer torso, danglers sit higher and don't interfere with my belt
>>62487293I think WileyX does prescriptionsBut the military will give you a nice pair of birth control glasses
>>62487695He's just hating for the sake of hatingDon't like spiritus, don't buy spiritusDon't want to hear redd*tors, don't go on redditTruth is spiritus hasn't done anything super shady and there no known flaws to their gear. They don't deserve hate like RMA doesThey are just Instagram hype fags
Is hearing protection important for SHTF? What's the trade-off between protecting your hearing and having situational awareness?
Anyone recognize this vest? It’s on eBay for dirt cheap and I’m trying to determine if it’s a scam or not.
>>62490927Backside.
>>62487234>projecting this badly
>>62490918nigger buy electronic ear pro
is this Atom jacket legit or fake
>>62491403
how much have you spent on gear in total?I should crunch the numbers to be sure but I think around 6/7k, of which 4k is nvgs
Please shill me on a low-vis plate carrier. My only concern is the ability to minimize printing, it doesn't need to be scalable.
>>62492052first spear slicklbt slick but it's more bulky ferro slickster but its got shit you don't need on a concealed slick
>>62490948it's your turn at the comedy club
Let me guess, you need more?
>>62492320Yes
>>62483030What would be some foreign equivalents to the classic US GI Assault Pack. I want some sort of special snowflake camo instead of the boring Multicam/M81/UCP.
>>62493075Hello friend. Me and my college buddies are currently dying ucp gear.
>>62493075Woodland DPM assault pack
>>62483030Has anyone used the L.L.Bean Continental Rucksack? It seems to have all the features I want for a daypack and isn’t too badly priced.
>>62492078Are soft body armors/icw systems worth considering? I'm looking at the safe life defense hyperline and a super thin IIIa with better coverage than a plate and the ability to up-armor to a level 4 seems pretty damn ideal for concealed wear.
>>62493648> safe life defense hyperlineOverpriced and not good. I wouldn't pay $600 for that, let alone $1100.You can get decent surplus soft armor on eBay for $200. > www.ebay.com/itm/184079758227
>>62493669Let's say you didn't give a shit about the price, does the thinness not offer advantages? What would be a better alternative if you were willing to shell out?
>>62493681The thinness is a meme. A 0.05" difference between one model or another is nothing and nobody will notice. Safariland SX and Point Blank Alpha Elite Black makes "Hyperline" look like dogshit. That's pretty much the best you can get.
>>62493648im not that knowledgeable in that topic, but depending on what you're buying it for yes, I know safariland makes good undershirt soft armor>>62493681
>>62493721Thanks anon
what's your favorite assault pack and rucksack and why?
are comtac 3s still worth getting or should i save for 4 or 5s?
>>62490935Its a USMC FSBE BALCS vest. Its takes BALCS soft armor inserts of whatever size the vest is in. Some were known to be modified to take SAPI plates as well. But that was a field modification.
>>62494013Thanks! You think it’s worth $40?
granite gear chief patrol pack is the most comfortable ruck I've ever used just wanted you guys to knowif you're in the us youre lucky you can get those from Ebay one thief surplus for a very nice price in coyote brown, if you're not you'll have to fish around
>>62494142does it have the armor inside?
my bivy has a slot for a stick that keeps it up off my face but I dont have the stick, what can I use to fix this
>>62494142If its in good shape and your size sure. Its a decent low viz carrier. Its not an overt tactical carrier with molle to attach pouches, its meant to have LBE like a chest rig or belt kit worn over it. You can get balcs soft armor panels from midwest and highcom. If you are decent at sewing you can sew up plate pockets inside the zippered section and turn it into a full armor carrier like they did in Iraq.
>>62494165The seller included zero information. My guess is no? I suppose the big expense is not the carrier but the soft plates.
>>62493238interesting
>>62494257Yup. nylon is cheap. Armor isn't.
>>62483301ferro unironically has advertised pictures of military guys using their gearspiritus' lv119 was coming apart within one year of use by a national guardsman
>>62490384>spiritus hasn't done anything super shady and there no known flaws to their gear
>>62491726Are we excluding things like the firearms themselves? Or are we including everything, even little things like batteries, chemlights, etc? I think I spent $600 or $700 on my belt setup alone, and I was trying to be reasonable when buying stuff for it. God only knows how much I've spent total on various gun and preparedness/defense stuff.>>62492052WTF PC 13, $99:https://www.wtfidea.com/plate-carrier-13-for-sapi-10x12-hesco-3810-l210-rma-1091-1092-1093-1094-rma-1155-hoplite-and-more/>>62493927I'm not sure what category it fits into since it's bigger than a typical assault pack and isn't really a ruck in the usual sense, but I like the ATS Tactical RAID II pack I have. Mostly because it opens completely flat and has PALS webbing all over it for attaching all the bullshit pouches I have.>>62495440Adam seems like a douche. The fact that he's getting booty blasted over some laser cuts in a flap is ridiculous. Acts like he has a patent on laser cuts in a fucking flap. Dude needs to quit huffing his own farts.
spiritus gear is good.I don't give a shit about some retarded instagram drama. I don't even use social media and the fact that you have screenshots of it tells way more about yourself than the gear in question. if you want to gossip about men like some kind of woman or faggot, go somewhere else, this is a gear thread.
>>62495710I know what you mean. If a company makes good gear, I'll buy it regardless of petty social media drama. But it's really embarrassing to see one of the main Spiritus guys on someone else's product post crying about how some laser cuts are "OC donut steel" lmao.
any oppinions about helikon-tex?
>>62495766DO NOT BUYHelikon-Tex doesn't know how to make clothing. The only gear I've ever literally thrown into the garbage was Helikon-Tex clothing, because it was made with really shitty and stiff material, and because the cut didn't even come close to fitting properly. It was shit and there was no way to fix it. For me, even Condor and Rothco stuff is 10x better.
>>62495766I have helikon shorts and a hoodie. Ok products for a civilian, but not solid enough for combat use
>>62495984>Ok products for a civilian, but not solid enough for combat use
would an atom and short sleeved shirt + gloves be enough for 21F static?
Does anybody make a purpose built, medical supplies only, chest rig? No mag pouches or anything, solely for first aid shit. I remember Tyr used to make one before they decided to get rid of all their skus in favor of shit nobody wanted
>>62495766Their pants and shirts suck fucking dick. The fit/proportions on everything is weird. Their hats especially are made for tiny nip heads. I looked like I was wearing a tactical yarmulke.I hear nothing but good things about the swagman roll woobie poncho thing from people that have them.Their chest rigs and modernized ALICE belt thing are both extremely solid. They make the best fanny packs on the market.
>>62492052Beez ELPC https://www.beezcombatsystems.com/collections/elpc-extreme-lightweight-plate-carriers/products/extreme-lightweight-plate-carrier
>>62495766The kit is good, clothes are bad.
>>62497282You could just get a PALS panel rig and attach whatever pouches you want to it. That's probably the best option if you want a really purpose built rig geared toward medical.
Does anyone know what these added horizontal flaps on the sides of this placard are used for? This is listed as “breacher modded”, are they just envelopes to hold breaching tools/tq/other shit?
>>62497282>>62497776This, get a surplus taps (or RRV if you wanna be cooler). The prior is probability better for rigging onto armor if you need to
>>62497955An unissued TAP rig goes for under $60 right now. The few Eagle RRVs I've seen pop up on places like eBay have all been $200+. RRVs seem to be crazy expensive now.
>>62498000Venture surplus is probably the best place for a TAPs, I think they’re 45-50 bucks.And yeah, people are remembering how cool RRVs are and they’ve definitely gotten more scarce
Looking for a new PC. Was sold on SPC until I looked at the JPC R. Assuming budget isn’t an issue, which route should I go?
Posting supplement #1 for reference. There's a lot of Tactical Stand Alone plates for sale lately on Ebay / Tacswap.
>>62493681I think that the thinnest IIIA armor is the CAG SPLII, which is thinner and lighter than Hyperline. > https://uploads.commoninja.com/pdf_gallery/1724321977797_CAG_Soft_Armor_Product_Spec_SPLII.pdf
>>62493978I have both comtac 3 and 5. The five is alright except for the fact I cheated out and got the version with no downlead
>>62495748Meme companies gonna meme, I guess
>>62493570Unless you really care about NIR compliance or MOLLE coverage, you'll be fine with it. I have some outdoor gear from L.L.Bean and Eddie Bauer and it's all decent enough. Unironically better than shit-tier "tactical" stuff from brands like Condor and Helikon
>>62499389Thanks. It’s just going to be a day pack while /out/doors on public land.
got a bunch of ABU and ucp mag pouches I got for cheap, I want to either dye them, green because brown turns out like shit, or spray paint them either coyote or ranger green, which is better?and if I decide to dye how do I get a nice green like picrel?I'm reading the arfcom thread on dyeing
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>>62500611Damn, that looks excellent
>>62500607I've used rit dye apple green on ABUs and it works really well.
>>62500703yeah it's the best one I've seen but I want his recipe, I'll read the thread better he probably says it
>>62498000fuck me, I remember buying my RRV back in 2019, shit was around 90-120 on Ebay, the only types of RRV that'd be priced near or over 200 were the coyote RRV with black buckles and the RG ones, gear economics has gone coocoo
>>62488379this guide is just "buy whatever cheap crap your wallet can handle" isnt it?
Why do so many people advocate for those "smart" water bottles over other ones? I see pouches sold at various companies that seem like they're designed for those bottles.
>>62502970Pretty much. It's inspired by the attached "no excuses" guide and focuses on just getting you basic capabilities if you're seriously dead broke. Example being that a Raytheon PALM IR 250 is relatively affordable and gets you in the thermal game really well. A Pulsar N550 is often dirt cheap on Ebay, and is nowhere near comparable to an analog NV sight, but it's a hell of a lot better than a flashlight in force-on-force situations. The meat and potatoes of the guide is the NVG30 monocular. R*dditors are running it with some degree of success, but it's again not comparable to analog. There are aftermarket lenses for it which greatly enhance field of view.
Attached is the improved "no excuses" guide. Additions include additional shotgun ammo options, since it was missing slugs and budget buck options, and a revised /gq/ armor section. RMA 1155 got the boot, Italian plates got the boot, both were replaced by the Hesco L211 and Highcom 4SAS7. Hesco 4403 remains with clarification on the NIJ suspension on previous models.
>>62504988Damn, forgot to attach it.
>>62505002Where are you finding the L211 plates for $200?
What is the story for these phantom BDU coat sizes like extra short that don't show up in sizing, or in modern produced examples?Large regular is too long, so I was going to order a large short, since it was like an inch shorter in the sleeve, but then I saw the extra short. I was assuming the short was just keeping in line with just adjusting the sleeve length, but I'm not completely sure. I ended up buying the large extra short since I'd like to have the cuff actually behind my wrist for once.
>>62505633The guide advises $230-250 for the L211. Midwest is selling them by the pair for $476 ($238 a piece not counting shipping), with a 3-4 week shipping time due to delays. They sell the 4403 for $410 a set ($205 per). I'd advise shopping around regardless. Midwest has a lot of slow shipping stories - which aren't entirely their fault due to Hesco prioritizing contracts.
>>62501051Let me know if it turns up, bro
Fleece Season is approaching quick here up north.
Is this some hunter camo?
>>62506575Looks like underarmor
>>62506575I've definitely seen it before, cant remember where. Maybe Sitka?
>>62506626They have some cool patterns, ngl
>>62508433>>62506626Desert digital pixel + desert night hybrid
>>62506008Fall feels overdue. Pretty brutal summer southeast of you. Can't wait for some comfy shooting weather.
what is everyone's go-to camo rattlecan brand? I've been using Majic a lot recently and have been very pleased with how close the colors get to MC
>>62483030I enjoy m81.
>>62506575it's the one mystery ranch uses on their hunting packs, look up their site to see the name
>>62510259Rust-oleum and Krylon. I've heard super mixed reviews of the Majic stuff. Does it hold up? I've heard it rubs off super easily.
>>62510259rusto bc they're local and I'm very conscious of my carbon footprint. Also no matter what I do it won't burn off my can or even smoke, pleasant surprise>possible bc I only used a very thin layer>>62494218hiking pole...or like a wood stick from the groun maybe idk. You in the desert?
>>62495766Why do they have shoelaces hanging from the bottom?
>>62513803Are you serious? Blousing.
>>62511974Nice, found an example. Thanks >OPTIFADE Subalpine
Add me to the body armor general.
>>62514492T H I C C
>>62514492>wickerman.jpg
>>62491410Probably fine
>>62500607>>62500611See >>62493238Dying is way better. You just need to get the color and dying formula you want to make sure it turns out the shade you want. Some of our stuff turned out somewhat bright, some more dark. It all depends on how you dyed it.We'll have a webstore soon, but we'll buy a banner when we do.>>62506575Looks like a camo bass pro. According to Brave search it might be "instinct".https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/cabelas-instinct-mesh-back-cap
>>62512470>Does it hold up? I've heard it rubs off super easily.I had that experience once with it and it was due to not allowing it to cure completely. It didn't "rub off" necessarily, but it was very powdery and would come off on my hands just from handling. Now I just leave it alone for a few days after spraying and haven't had an issue with it.
>>62515867Spray clear coat over the top of it
>>62516405It's been fine for me once it's had time to cure. I'm also not really concerned with preventing it from wearing or getting scratched over time as long as it blends with mutlicam
it arrived, pretty cool shit and seems comfortable , much more than my previous MICH2000, but I have to keep it on for a longer time to be sure>removed sticker with SN mmmmmmm
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>>62514492Whats the composition of that thing?
Why are drones like picrel not more common on /k/ or /gq/ in particular? A skilled pilot with a 2” prop drone can fly inside a window and check every room in a house quickly and easily. I routinely use mine for exploring abandoned infrastructure and it seems like it’d be a more common hobby amongst gun enthusiasts. I often see people on /k/ who train/buy gear for breaching of all things, but imagine how much safer that would be just by having a drone operator watching the room that someone is breaching, making sure that there’s nobody sitting there with a gun.
>>62516988Natural plant fibers, resin from Walmart
>>62517144Most of /k/ is no guns. Then half of guns is FOTM and or KAC that someone else built. Then half of that is DIY. Then half of that is capable of putting together drones that aren't DJI. Feel free to do the math yourself.
>>62517239Building your own has a learning curve, mostly because of software, but you can buy everything pre-assembled. The pic I posted before is 170 dollars for the analog version. You can buy a 100 dollar fat shark analog goggle and a 70 dollar radiomaster ELRS controller, bind them, and be flying in just a few minutes.
>>62517296Yeah, that is legitimately too advanced for half of the owns-guns on /k/. Too bad I can't spoiler tag - it's too advanced for half of /g/ too lmao.
>>625146641.5" -1.7">>6251698824oz woven fiberglass (24 layers for backer, effectively 7 layers for wrap) with two layers of porcelain tiles.
Why the FUCK won't LBT get correct brush stroke coloring in? Their website shows the correct coloring but when I emailed them to reeeeee at them they showed me this is what they actually have. Thank God for /gq/ to complain about. Really bothers my tism.
how do you wear your earpro under full cut helmets?comtac V fit under my helmet without pads where the headband goes but its pressed on my skull, I saw theres a headband attachment you can fit on them
I'm looking to get into belt kit with option to don slick armor, is there a better option that the Crossfire DZ rig?
>>62513855I looked up the term, but I still don't understand.
>>62517144I have a potensic camera drone and I fly mostly fixed wing for a hobby. There's an RC General thread on /diy/. >>>/diy/2841917
>>62518818It's so you can tuck in your pants into your boots. Google "blousing military".
what's a good helmet cover/scrim for the galvion p6n full cut?do beez combat systems thermal covers actually work?
>>62517517>porcelaindoes this actually work well? a common misconception people have is that the "ceramic" in body armor is porcelain style ceramic when it's actually typically aluminum oxide or boron carbide which is a very different material
>>62520238It's been tested by those better than I and it came out as the most effective plate you can get at a big box store. You need two layers for it to be near actual ceramic plates. Two plates is 15mm thickness. Add the fiberglass and it ends up being real thick.
>>62520494neat, sounds like a cool project
>>62520519And I no longer feel the itch because I work with this stuff daily.
>>62517675probably vat dyed batches from china. who even originally manufactured rhodesian brush stroke camo? for example, once atacs discontinued fg to expand on fg-x that's where it all started coming from.
>>62519183Thanks. I’m still new to the hobby and I have a bunch to learn. But it seems like it would be right up a larper’s alley in terms of capabilities. I use mine all the time to make sure areas are clear of any people before I start doing retarded stalker larp shit. I also fly mine downtown to check and see if there’s any parking spaces open before I bother going out.
thoughts on a malice pack?how much better does it perform than an alice pack and is it worth the pricetag?
>>62520740It's a giant cube of a pack which when filled will fold your spine in half somewhere around your lower thoracic vertebrae as the pack itself is too short for human beings and the centre of gravity is far too high and creates a fulcrum point where the weight and the pack pulls backwards away from you while you're leaning forward. Unless you're 5'5" any ALICE design will completely destroy your back and you should buy a long thin pack instead.
>>62520849Makes sense that former machine gunner Grunt Proof loves the ALICE pack. They always give the machine gun to short guys.
>>62520909nope he's shilling the crossfire CF series packs. And not for nothing he's definitely one of the better guntubers imo; pushes a lot of practical fitness and his other topics are usually pretty relevant/engaging. >>62520849Didn't know 5'5 was the exact number... Biggest issue I see with these is the kidney belt, which doesn't even get run by mil guys bc they worried it'll crush their kidneys or something. Furthermore, they get sausage fingers from crushing their shoulders with the straps and cutting off circulation>>62520740what's the application and how much space do you need, minimum?
>>62521006the application would be military related stuff, essentially I need a ruck that can be packed with 90-120lbs of various stuff without breaking like those shitty molle ruck frames and without being a nightmare to fit into
>>62520909>Grunt ProofThe actual living stereotype of the grumpy divorced balding uncle who lives alone on a property with a bunch of guns. Literally the only reason he hasn't committed suicide yet is because he has a Youtube channel, otherwise the dude would probably sit on his porch all day drinking beer reliving all the screaming matches he used to have with his wife every time he came home from deployment or the field. Dude is friends with Stokermatic who got bent over a barrel and assraped by Matt Pranka on livestream after he made a video trash talking Delta.
>>62483043are there any chest rigs with double stacked & flapped pouches by default or would i have to piecemeal one together?
>>62521066>90-120lbsPlease double check your math. Regular Alice packs can barely hold half that weight by design. You're essentially asking for a purpose built hunting pack designed to move a kill out of the bush. And I'd guarantee you've never put that much on your back and tried to move. Very few packs are designed for that kind of weight, and furthermore, the human body. >t. wwr guide who carries 120-150lb boats uphill from the riverbank, alone, multiple times a day
>>62520909>They always give the machine gun to short guys.The inverse is true, atleast for USMC
I just wanted to take a moment to say that the Germoid tactical gear industry is especially cringe.Are they advertising that they suck cock? What is going on here?> https://shop.spartanat.com/products/hawk-tuah-der-patch
>>62522941oh shit it arrived, how's it working for you??
>>62522850They're trying to cash in on a manufactured trend. They probably have no idea what the fuck it's from and what it even means either which is good for them.
>>62523090Seems like it'll work well enough. Main compartment isn't crowded with bullshit. Shoulder strap goes a long way for stability. Will see how it holds up once I put it to use.
what's a good helmet cover for a full cut helmet with nvg shroud and rails?NIGGERS I bought a Wilcox pvs14 j arm dovetail for 70euros, the screw to adjust the inclination has broken in half and a piece is inside the threaded hole, the screw is easy to replace as its removable, I can drill the hole and re do the thread and buy a slightly bigger screw, but if theres a way to remove the screw inside without having to redo the thread itd be great
>>62520137The spectralflage stuff? It works. It's not magic, obviously, but it does significantly reduce your thermal signature.>>62521114>Stokermatic who got bent over a barrel and assraped by Matt Pranka on livestream after he made a video trash talking DeltaI remember seeing that video. It was a while ago, but I remember being weirded out by some of his claims and assumptions, even as someone who's never done done shit. Like, he watches the clip and just starts talking like he was there and had intimate knowledge of the training exercise.Also, I think the Grunt Proof guy makes some decent videos here and there, but yeah he's not some sort of big brain dude. I saw a video where he attached a QD cummerbund to the plate bags backwards and made a comment about how it was weird that you had to unhook from the back...>>62521189Off the top of my head:- Platatac Peacekeeper - Citadel Defense Spectre- Onward Research Recce Rig- T Rex Arms Quad Flap Rig
1.3kg pretty light considering it has rails, shroud, pads and straps
>>625234462.87 pounds. Bet they advertise a 0.12 pound "shell weight" lmao
>>62524051these are not for sale but I know opscore does that
>>62522456Literally last January my ruck weighed 115lbsIt is absolutely possible to move with, even in knee deep snow with snow shoes onIt sucks but its possible, even with a shitty molle ruck
>>62524297what did you have inside ?
>>62524344a big packing list including a lot of cold weather gear, plus a 158 radio and some linked 7.62 crossloaded from the gunners
>>62520634Don't even care I just want a color correct brush stroke bag and LBT for all their faults make nice bags and pouches.
what would a full cut UHMWPE helmet with rails, nvg shroud and modern suspension system go for?
>>62525236Only $2000 bro.
>>62525236>>62525295Sorry, I just noticed you said full cut, so maybe add $200.
>>62525305>>62525295so you'd say that getting them for 200/350 would be a steal
>>62525431Where are you getting a full cut UHMWPE helmet for $200-$350? Even the Chinese made aramid helmets go for $300-$400. You're looking at a scam.
>>62517675isn't this the 3rd month that you complain about this in /gq/? just move on man
>>62523126i love how clean this setup is but also looks so malnourished at the same time.
>>62525465it's not a scam, I already got one sample, can show pics, it even has original helmet covers and bags, and original Wilcox shroud, so itd have to be a very elaborate scam to source all that to then put on a fake helmet
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>>62525703if anyone's interested lmk
>>62525710
>>62525693They fell off a truck from the UK bound for Ukraine, huh? Those helmets are all over the place over there.
>>62525693>>62525703>>62525710>>62525726Interesting. Based on the pics, it looks a lot like the Caiman helmet Galvion sells commercially for $2k MRSP.
>>62525693>>62525703>>62525710>>62525726sorry for being a jew but if anyone's interested in buying them let me know I can source them for you, I'll be selling them for 750, I'm in Europe but given the low price they're still convenient even if shipped to the US
>>62525756Lol, something like this would be my guess, too. Probably even someone in Ukraine selling stuff they've gotten a five finger discount on. A little side hustle. With so many countries dumping gear on them, I wouldn't be surprised if guys are walking away with crates of gear to sell online.>>62525825Sounds tempting, but I'd prefer high cut. I'm sure you'll get some bites, though.
>>62525855Yeah interesting stuff pops up on ebay but all of it is insanely priced its just hustlers making a quick buck.
anyone here tried the mystery ranch blackjack 100/SATL/6500?curious to see how they perform and if they're worth the price
>>62518522No one knows anything about belt kits?Can't decide between the tactical tailor, dz or the jay jays
is direct action shit good?I like their pouches
>>62527393I'm not a belt kit guy, but if I was going to go that route and didn't mind the financial investment that it is, I'd probably just go with Crossfire and get their rig and one of their packs that work well with it, just so I could have a one-and-done setup. Their stuff looks very well made. I have heard good things about the Jay Jays kit, too.>>62527465Be more specific. Their backpacks are pretty decent, although those are made in Vietnam.
>>62527617I like the med and gp pouches, the GP would go on my ruck as it's a main bag+lid only bag and the rest is molle so you have to make your own (granite gear chief)med would go on PC and chest rig
Can I get a combat pants recommendation? Something below Cryer but above condor.
>>62527722Arktis ranger.
>>62527722How much are you willing to spend? What color/pattern do you want?Much of the Chinese made stuff has weird sizing. The pants made by OPS in HK have proper sizing and come in several colors/patterns. $145-$190.https://www.0241tactical.com/product/advanced-fast-response-pants/https://www.0241tactical.com/product/gen-2-ultimate-direct-action-pants/Alternatively, a new company in Norway called Polar Bear Tactical have started making a combat pant for $140. Only available in ranger green right now.https://www.polarbeartactical.com/product-page/telemark-combat-pants-rg
>>62527722tru spec 24/7 expedition
>>62527722m65 surplus or knockoffs are the budget optionintegrated kneepads are very good though so recommend anything with those
>>62527722Surplus issue combat pants w the integrated kneepads.They're like $30
>>62525884Speaking of stuff popping up on Ebay, there's like twenty sellers dealing in anti-thermal jackets and coats. $150-230 a piece. They're not magic but are probably a decent prep given the fact thermals are only going to get more affordable from here.>>62514492Very nice! Have you tested it against threats yet?
>>62523334>I saw a video where he attached a QD cummerbund to the plate bags backwards and made a comment about how it was weird that you had to unhook from the back...Kek what an actual retard. I guarantee that ATV of his is completely fucked from years of him 'fixing' it himself.
>>62529561I don't agree with some of his takes, but he seems like a nice enough guy, and he occasionally has some good insights.But yeah, it's a bit strange to see a single, childless middle aged man "prepping" and running around doing survival stuff in the middle of nowhere, making YT videos. His life peaked during the GWOT and he's hoping to relive those glory days when shit really starts collapsing in this country.
>>62521189$15-20chicom type 56, type 81 or type 63$30-50Blackhawk Commando$50-80British Northern Ireland Chest Rig or SADF Pattern 83$100+Onward Research Recce RigTrex Arms Quad FlapAfter that you're better off buying a molle rectangle and putting surplus flapped pouches on it.
>>62529681>His life peaked during the GWOTA lot of white guys in that 40-50 age group are in that position right now, so there's a lot of interest in what he's doing.>>62529967Honestly it's hard to go wrong with the Chicom
>>62532078why did they leave the army then
>>62529967Dont forget about the LBV, two doubles and two singles.
>>62532352Because being in the military sucksLARPing that your in the military is way more fun
>>62532352Cheeto-shoveling hands typed this post.Carrying 200lbs of gear through Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years tends to take its toll on the body. He mentioned finishing his career in Civil Affairs which I imagine he changed MOS to after grinding his joints to dust and crushing every disc in his spine.
Are these guys wearing truspecs?A lot of the modern tiger stripe I’m seeing is the wider-striped variant, though I know there have been a ton of different versions
opinions on the TRAAP ;) chest rig?to me it seems one of the best ones on the market currently to carry your fighting load
>>62534918It's a Taps rig but 4 times the price?
>>62534918It's what most people want the TAP to be. You can get a TAP rig for $50 and then spend $160 for Spiritus's upgrade kit and have a decent rig, or just pony up the $225 for the TRAAP and have something completely modernized.People are going to complain about the price, but I think it's actually in line with what many other companies would charge for something like it.
>>62535033I would counter that the spiritus upgrade kit is also extremely over priced
what are the best military sleeping bags for the following conditions?>temperate (8C/45F and above)my pick is the woobie, helikon swagman roll or equivalents like the sarma tst or hpg ones, if a bit lower just wear some layers >cold(1c to 7C / 33F to 45F)idk, some light sleeping bag like carinthia tropen or the usmc bag or MSS patrol bag but I dont own one of this type, or Woobie + lvl7>very cold(0C / 32F to -20C / -4F)carinthia defence 4, can get you to very cold temps and then you can plus up with a bivy and layers >cold as shit (lower than 20C / -4F)idk i dont have any, the carinthia survival, the one with the arms, it's very insulated I like the bluewater defence one that let's you walk and shit although it's probably a gimmick, just looks cool
>>62535129I have a cool def4 in Slocam, but I'm too much of a faggot and want another 2 in m81 and m05
>>62535140>>62535129I'd like to try the SARMA tst heavy woobie that also has integrated space blanked and bivy layer, so I could carry that as a lighter sleeping bag and plus up with a lvl7 that I'd be carrying anyway, and thus have a slightly lighter pack and less items, and not have the asspain of the bag rolling in the bivy
>>62535129Cold as shit I would plan to not sleep until I got back to some sort of semi permeant camp with fire/heaters
>>62535173>Semi permanent*
what are some comfortable and durable pants to use for out/larp innawoods/going out with nods that look less autistic than camo cryes?solid color cryes
>>62535116The Spiritus upgrade kit is pretty on-point price wise considering it's a mix of other Spiritus products. Arguably Spiritus stuff is pricey compared to some other similar products.Anyway, point is, people complain about the TRAAP being $225 because an unissued surplus TAP is $50, but they forget that the reason it's so cheap in the first place is because it's surplus.Haley charges $175 for a rig that's just a few rifle mag slots, a couple pistol pouches, a small GP pouch and a shitty X-harness. The Velocity Mayflower (or gen 4 or whatever they call it now) is $209. The T3 Spear rig is $215. So, I think the TRAAP is pretty in line with other companies' prices for what it is.
Whats the best camo to use innadesert without looking like a fed or some kind of government nigger?
>>62535789The feds are going to have the best camo, so your question is kind of retarded.
>>62535801Yeah thats what I’m aware of. M81 is great but it doesn’t work well in arid environments.
>>62535789It depends on what desert. Multicam is generally useful in a desert because it has more tans and lighter greens. There is multicam arid. Then there's the chocolate chip or whatever it's called.
>>62535910Multicam screams fed tho
>>62535920And so did M81 40 years ago. What's your point?
>>62535789Which desert? Tri color for sandy desert. chocy chip for rocky desert.
>>62535934Because I don’t want to be misidentified as a fed and shot during shtf. How difficult is that to understand?>>62535935Mojave. Is DCU still used by government?
>>62536104If they can identify you, then your camo already sucks. So what does it matter?
>>62536104>How difficult is that to understand?Pretty difficult considering that multi cam has been surplussed to hell and back and everyone and their mother now has it.
>>625256343rd and not the last.
>>62536104>Because I don’t want to be misidentified as a fed and shot during shtf.Lmfao, if SHTF ever happens we'll all be resorting to colored tape and whatnot just like the Ukies and Russkies for IFF.
>>62535935Desert DPM. Bonus points for style
What are some good women's tactical pants?
4 lvl3 plates
do you guys prefer a ruck with sewn pouches or full bare molle and then out your own stuff on?anyone tried the beyond alpha A5 jacket? seems coolwhat are some good out pants
>>62536709I have never molle'd a pouch onto a rucksack, ever. There is not a single pack in existence that is made better with molle pouches hanging off the outside. Built in pouches that stay within the "factory" silhouette are far superior. As mentioned above in this thread a tall and skinny pack is by far the best solution for everyone. The one exception in my mind is HPG rucks like the quiya and decker where they have skinny long and wide panels that strap onto the "front">what are some good out pants>>62527722>>62535277 Fucking hell just buy whatever. Buy surplus OCPs or whatever you can find. Shit does not matter. I don't even know what you tards are doing in your pants but they WILL get destroyed. Spend the least money possible, get the waist one size up. Vertx pants off ebay are perfect just go one size up in the waist
>>62537056>a tall and skinny pack is by far the best solution for everyone.why?for example currently I decided to consolidate on the granite gear chief pack because it's the most comfortable I've ever worn my a good margin, so I'm selecting it mainly for its load bearing ability, the bag design is ok, the opening in the main bag is good so you don't have to pull everything out, what I don't like are the side pockets, made for bladders, because they're too narrow and with a full pack you cant put shit in nor pull it out, the lid is decent but too small and not floating, with that said the bag design is good enough, I put my main shit in the main bag (lvl7, sleep system, dry bag with spare clothes), helmet under the lid, and then I got 2 sustainment pouches on the sides for food, water, gas can, stove, and go pouch on the center back for accessing other stuff like a puffy jacket, gloves , nvg, batteries, medkit etc, and the lid is the same as the gp pouch, in a military/preparedness context (although idk why you'd ruck miles with a heavy pack in shtf but whatever) you'd also add other gear into those pouches such as MG ammo, spare mags, frags etc
anyone got an arcteryx atom?is it good?
>>62527722otte gear or vertx.
>>62537056>I don't even know what you tards are doing in your pantsLarping at the flat range or playing airsoft. I don't know why guys think they need $300 pants for this.As far as "I need combat pants for SHTF" goes, I don't think the average /k/ommando will have time to race home from the local gloryhole to change out of their jorts and into their combat pants when they see the Chinese paratroopers in the sky. The shooting will start before they get home and they'll be fighting in whatever they wear in everyday life.
>>62537389Beyond camo pants
>>62536646>women’sKek, trannies are so fucking delusional
how to remove this stain from arcteryx atom?its gun lube with ar15 dirtiness inside
>>62487069>not rocking a dangler for med and a fanny pack for misc items/snacksngmi
>>62487695Are you still bitching about that pc? Your fat. Lose weight, fatty.
what's a good flashlight to attach on helmet rails that has both visible and IR
>>62539400Just get a surefire vampire
>>62525825Alright ill bite. Are you inside EU or do I have to pass customs. Also where do you sell them´? EBay?
>>62539465im in the EU, so if you're in the schengen area you're fine with customs, I can sell on Ebay, vinted, or straight up PayPal, vinted has around the same fees as PP but has cheaper shipping, so if you're in country that my vinted ships to (vinted divides Europe in some sub zones so you can't ship everywhere idk why) you can buy it there, otherwise PayPal business payment.what size do you want?
>>62539522I currently have an M and L
>>62539522No vinted delivery to my area, ebay might be best but thats additional fees right? Also is this the Galvion caiman line but in full cut?
>>62539527Im probably one of those 2, give me a sec to measure.
>>62539527L is fine
>>62539550it's the galvion p6n batlskin, you can see it in this valgear videohttps://youtu.be/piyWP6_IY2c?si=d8aXl9hoz3iRYM_8Ebay has some additional fees for the seller, PayPal for the buyer, in the end it's kind of the same, E
>>62539566Alright. Send the ebay then. L size.
>>62539562you can write me on the above mail so we can talk in private about the shipping details etc
>>62539580Alright, expect a mail in a couple of hours when i get off work.
>>62539598heres the Ebay listing, no need for the mail actually https://www.ebay.it/itm/226360211240?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=enwkcbz3r5a&sssrc=2524149&ssuid=enwkcbz3r5a&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
>>62506008That patch is excellent
>>62518294Just get the gamer dent
>>62539732needed to offset the jewpup so I wouldn't be accused of being JIDF lmao
>>62539741what's that
>>62506008how do you take pics like that
>>62539819How subversive of you
>>62539828Photoroom, I didn't even do it well either, you can see my shag carpet underneath the sweater>>62539922I'm a Christian. Christ is King. I just use the jewpup because it fits in a duffel bag and when I was younger the first semi autos I shot were bullpups, so I'm more used to them
anyone got opinions on the kuiu merino base shirts?I want to buy some merino base layer shit for cold weather innamountains, and the kuiu ones seem good quality and also have a cool pattern, the other options would be stone glacier, Danish endurance, smartwool or arcteryx
>>62540022>smartwoolThere was some reason to stay away from smartwool lately but I can't remember what that was.
>>62539598whenever you're ready
>>62536621Extra style points for desert tiger stripe.
>>62525782It says Viper on the label, Galvion makes a series of lower end helmets named that. What makes you say it's the Caiman?>>62525710Can you weigh the shell by itself?
>>62487069You must run like a bitch if something bouncing from your hips off your thighs doesn't bother you
>>62540188VIPER is the retention system, the helmet is the glavion p6n batlskin, which is not commercially available and its issued to the Dutch army I could completely disassemble the helmet and remove all accessories but I dont want to, I used it yesterday for 2 hours with a pvs14 and it was very comfy tho
>>62488626Surefire stiletto pro. Just the pro
anyone knows the fill value of the ecwcs and pcu lvl7 jackets and pants?the pcu seems to be a bit lighter
>>62522642Lol right, usmc most common machine gunners were short Asians at least in the early to mid 2000s
>>62539986Where to cop that patch? Reminds me of pic related
>>62527617I ended up ordering the DZ rig and the matching CF2. Post pics when it gets in
>>62539598bru let me know if you're still interested or changed your mind so I can proceed with the order, havent received any mail
>>62540206Can you weigh it with rails etc. on it then?
>>62540961sure, it's 1.33kg/2.93lbs, as shown here>>62523446
>>62539244You don't. I got some oil on a ripstop rain jacket years ago and the stain never came out.>>62540188>What makes you say it's the Caiman?I didn't say it *was* the Caiman, just that the materials and features of the helmet are extremely similar to the Caiman. It pretty much seems to be a low cut version of the Caiman (which only comes high cut, to my knowledge).>>62540504>Post pics when it gets inNice, looking forward to it.
>>62542007>low cutFull cut, I mean.
>>62539244Lighterfluid and then let it evaporate out>>62535129Snugpak jungle bag for temperateCold as shit snugpak SF2 with puff suit inside.
solid colors Vs camohow much of a difference does it make?solid colors make you look less autistic if you care about it, and for le prepared citizen if you're going out with gun and overt kit it doesn't really matter if you're camo or not.so aside from aesthetics and market availability is there any point in going solid colors vs camo patterns?
>>62542719>how much of a difference does it make?Little if you are doing everything right.Much if you are doing things wrong.>is there any point in going solid colors vs camo patterns?Ability to recycle your shit for camping/cold weather gear
>>62542901>recycle for camping jokes on you I just go out in full camo and look autistic as shit but in reality no one cares, I mainly go in places where theres not many people but sometimes I do, or theres a refuge so up to that point theres ppl then not anymore, anyway I open carry a knife and am full camo and no one really cares, they even come and talk bc they're curious about your gorilla nigger ruck and ask where you're headed or ask abt my wrist GPS and how it works etc so they're cool really
red pill me on merino wool
>>62542719Here's my take as a caveman brained gub gub snail man who's never done anything cool: camo only matters if you're in a rural area and don't want to be noticed.People living in an urban or suburban area are going to look goofy as fuck running around in camo if le SHTF happens. You're going to need the trashman ghillie suit to blend in with those environments.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msk9IaMnXA0Solid colors are fine as long as it's not black. Solid colors start attaining their own "camo" anyway if you go out and use the stuff and don't treat your gear like it's a high end suit that you're trying to keep spotless. Get that shit dirty and never wash it.Besides, at the end of the day, if you really want to, you can use spray paint on solid colors and make whatever "camo pattern" you want.
are arcteryx assault pants good?
So I've been looking at getting a chest rig, is there actually a difference between:THe Onward Research RECCE righttps://onwardresearch.com/recce-rig/and the Kommando Store Pattern 84:https://kommandostore.com/collections/kommandostore-exclusives-custom-productions/products/pattern-84-chest-rig-version-2-0Yeah there are some materials differences, but otherwise it seems like..... the same rig. So does anyone thing it is worth the extra $110 to get the kommando rig?
What seasons is it appropriate to wear a Gorka Suit? The seem too thick for summer, but too thin for winter.
>>62543099winter and autumn, just wear a base layer underneath, just know that compared to modern garments and textile the gorka is obsolete, if you're in snowy cold you can wear lvl5 type clothing, they'll be more water resistant and lighter, stretchier, dry quicker, but the gorka got style for sure, and despite being less advanced than these more modern ones it's still ok and very durable, I got one in partizan
>>62542955Insulates when wet, FR, not too heavy and comfortable. Fantastic for socks and baselayers.>>62543050Yes but not worth the headache in current year>>62543081>So does anyone thing it is worth the extra $110 to get the kommando rig?Not a chanceT. used both>>62543099You should wax them and then layer them for winter/colder weather use. They were simply a big camo potato sack so you wouldnt tear up less durable insulating layers.In summer they are sort of retarded.
>>62543127or you can just use the pants as needed up bdus in cold envs, they're pretty baggy and roomy and I find them more comfortable than bdus when walking uphill bc they dont get caught on my knee as the bdu does
>>62543081get a TRAAP>>62543130I got Danish endurance socks in merino and they're based, used them alot and they're warm, dont stink
>>62543081>>62543130Yeah, I wouldn't bother with the Kommando rig. The main downside of the Recce Rig is the 2 columns of PALS on each side. Most GP pouches are going to need 3 columns.
>>62543146posted accidentally>contdont stink, dont get wet, I used the same pair at work for 5 days straight as an experiment and they were fine
>>62543139as beefed up bdus***>>62543130can you use it in temperate or hot weather too or is it too hot?
I guess for anyone who finds MALICE clips's durability to be questionable (???), there's a new challenger.https://www.wtfidea.com/palsecure-2-0-molle-pals-straps-using-tegris-or-curv-tactical/>The current solution for dismounting PALSecure 2.0 MOLLE/PALS Straps is using side cutter diagonal wire cutters to cut and destroy the rivet.Goddamn, lol.
>>62543146I heard the trex arms stuff was just rebranded aliexpress, is that not true?also, isn't the trex arms guy a huge no fun zone fag?
>>62543487Probably not true, Lucas openly hates fags so that gets him tons of downvotes on Reddit.
>>62543487idk but the design is good what camo would you use for this environment? it's like this up to a point then it's just rocks, and now summer has just eneded so it's greener, later with cold it gets more brown, and then snow.on top of that, if you had to choose a solid color instead of camo what would you choose?
>>62543546forgot pic
>>62543546ranger green would get too dark and stand out but maybe you could look like a Bush agaisnt the grass, coyote is lighter and if it gets darker due to the shades itd still be good, and it blends with the background grassidk, but animals are brown or brown grey not green so they might be onto something
>>62543577plus even in the woods the ground will be brown dead fall against brown trunks, plus some green bushes and tree leaves
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>>62543546Does it look like that year round? Looks like it might get brown in the summer. Ranger green would not be too dark imo>>62543577Animals are brown generally because they don't see greens. Generally speaking, animals are only colors that their predators don't see well in contrast to the environment; dogs and big cats don't see greens or blues,, so brown is energetically cheap to blend in with.So the ideal camo pattern for this would be miami tigerstripe.
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>>62543127Would a milsurp parka liner work?
