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l33t h4xx0r edition
old >>40902155

QOTT: Do you engage in safe hardware practices and remove your clothes to reduce the risk of static discharge when working on your computer?
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that's like, sooooo hot
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>>40931887
goals except i wish it would somehow make my huge skull more feminine
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im so ugly
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i have an ffs proof face lmao
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>do nothing
>feel like shit
>do something to try and fix my life
>feel like shit + stressed out
happiness doesn't real

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Those who are prehrt or early in transition post pics so others can assess their future passability.
and even if you’re like 3 years+ into trooning you can still post pics ig idk probably should’ve just made a /passgen/ instead since there’s not one up right now but idk.
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>>40900463
my bideltoid shrunk numerous inches on hrt but okay slime
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>>40931890
can people stop saying they want to fuck me and tell me if my shoulders are as bad as the other poster says
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>>40932606
Your shoulders look fine to me. You yourself said you got catcalled before you gained weight, so obviously you can male fail.
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>>40932760
i guess, but only ever at night, and im sure some of those guys were chasers... and also that was when i was 18 and i didn't start hrt for a bit longer, and maybe i kept on masculinising right at the end of puberty.... i just can't stop being paranoid
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>>40932797
Okay. Please trust me when I say your shoulders will not prevent you from passing.

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There are countless rapists and pedos out there but why does Elon only try to use it as tool of demeaning minorities? Oh this one tranny in Canada raped someone and she is representative of millions of other people who identify as transgender. Especially when you take into consideration that this guy is supposed to be scientific and rational
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>>40932748
i think he likes to pretend he is a lot smarter than he is. Im not saying he isnt smart but i think his massive ego gets in the way of things.

Intelligent people need to practice humility first or they are lost
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>>40932720
he doesn't care about rapists and pedos, he cares about saying whatever retarded shit his followers want to hear. it's all just a grift.
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>>40932762
I think he is smart but he overestimates how smart he is and lies a lot.
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>>40932748
>I hope Elon changes
Considering he got a trans kid and is still a fool? I don't think he believes there is anything to change. In his mind, as owner of Twitter, reposting news about child rape is fine and normal. Hell, he might even feel morally obligated to post stuff like that.
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>>40932804
Looked through his xitter feed and its just stories about white kids being raped by brown people. Thats all he is posting day in day out

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QOTT:Weed. Smoke or edibles?

QOTT#2:If you don't do weed. What is your favorite drink?
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>>40932123
please do not take the mask off
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>>40928000
my lungs are COOKED.
so i like edibles. and mushroom edibles.
and i'll put down a few shots of vodka also.
but not enough to keep me off my toes.


i was tripping like.. 8 hours ago.
mushroom chocolate.
but it was comfy.
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>>40931414
>>40931440
He’s right. Mt Dew is goated.
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I am about to head to classes for the day. Perhaps someone very kind would be able to meet up before classes and spank me extremely hard a couple times in public. Maybe hard enough to leave marks for a couple hours.

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>>40932747
I want to legitimately beat you red. I bet you would like that and having everyone in public like your classmates see you being beaten.
>>40931414
And I wanna spank you around a little bit as well.

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2 months ago this board was full of people who would unironically believe in blanchards typology and call him daddy. why are yall gone? why is everyone posting that "blanchard is a fraud"? why is 4chan suddenly woke?

if there are actual blanchardists reading this, please post your weird takes, please prove how blanchard and bailey were right, i miss how i would argue with you about stuff back in the day
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>>40932710
im proud of you. Remember to take regular breaks
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>>40932710
>wasnt this the default cope since 2009, back when moser published his study?
nta but no
there are now a bunch of studies that were published after 2009 that explain how womens sexuality isnt just the inverse of mens sexuality
>>40932724
thats not what agp is. what youre describing is transvestic fetishism, another term coined by blanchard
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>>40932634
Shame, I'm new to the game and find AGP discussion super interesting.
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>>40932744
>there are now a bunch of studies that were published after 2009 that explain how womens sexuality isnt just the inverse of mens sexuality
the fact that female and male sexualities are different is kind of obvious. i might have seen some of the studies, yet i don't remember seeing studies about female sexuality that are not strictly about agp ever used in an agp discussion. if you actually do have studies, pls show me.
>thats not what agp is
i disagree. i've seen blanchardists explain that transvestic fetishism is only about crossdressing, while agp can also be about anatomical features etc. the original definition of agp is:
"a male's propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought of himself as a female"
i only slightly modified the original definition by removing the part that limits agp to males, bc otherwise we are creating a double standard. therefore, i strongly believe that agp is best defined as "ability to get aroused by the thought of being female/feminine". thats what agp is.
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>>40932790
> find AGP discussion super interesting
actually me too. thats why i made this thread. we can discuss stuff here if you want ig...

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>mom and sister want to protect me from womanhood
>socially conscious women view being nlog as some patriarchal abberation
>womanhood is simultaneously beautiful and constantly suppressed by patriarchal influences
i really want to kill myself i will never ever be a woman and even though i pass people know i was born with these genitals, with no intersex condition. im inherently missing something. ill be abused but whenever i think or speak or act it will never meet the same abuse women have suffered
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(cont.) ill never ever ever be like joan. ill never be like her. and she was gods most faithful and wonderful follower. she had a resillient spirit and a beautiful heart and ill never be like her. it drives me crazy
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>male pornography
What's that? Like... gay sex? And you watch porn come on you should know by now futa women can penetrate. It's mostly just cis people and fags who assign penetration = woman
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>>40932673
no just very masculine drawn pornogrpahy and fetishes that tend to be very masculine in nature. i get that men or women dont have separate brains but also we're supposed to be inherently violent because of social conditioning. im scared. i feel so disgusting and no matter how my body changes im just disgusting and male. everyone believes in this essentialism. if anyone finds out about my birth sex i know theyll see me as some freak
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>>40932698
How long have you been on E?
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>>40932722
three years. im offsetting it with progesterone because i have body dysmorphia and want to gain weight (its been working). and ive been really trying to be happy with being a man even if my close friends/strangers see me as female. being a gay male lets me get away with agp stuff like wearing sanrio merch wrong. i mean its weird but theres no preconcieved notion of me trying to invade anything.

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Only cis straight women like these guys, but then trans women and cis men have this kind of rabid hatred for them for some reason?

Like you'd never in a trillion years see some MTF going crazy over some Kpop dude.
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>>40929850
they are hot but id prefer if they had slightly longer hair and tats
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>>40931705
Backstreet boys were all ugly old men except nick. White men cannot be that pretty and feminine, too much ooga booga
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>>40929850
I'm mtf, was big into kpop, visual kei and asian aesthetics in 2019, and I think Taehyung from BTS is one of the cutest men in the world. He's so handsome I want to cry sometimes while looking at him. I even wish I could at least look like him if I'm not able to pass.
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>>40931777
I like the short kpop hairs. Asians have so thick and beautiful hair texture
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i wish i could be beautiful like this

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Do women control the narrative?
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>>40931067
Not gonna lie anon all this kinda nonsense...misandry isn't going to get you passed up for a job, and circumcision? Isn't that religious people shit? And homophobia perpetrated by women... In my opinion is very minor (and usually directed at cishet doods).
If they "control the narrative" you need more heavy hitting stuff than this.
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>>40931067
Who is stopping you from talking about it? Nobody. People might have opposing views but thats normal. Nobody can take away your voice
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>>40930458
i wish
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>>40930458
Always have.
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>>40930458
Do you mean real women?

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Why is that when an incel troons out, they stop being an incel, takes care of their appearance/behavior, has lots of sex and becomes politically progressive?
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>>40931969
Holy shit I felt this.

I used to be really happy and indifferent to the fact that I was a man. I didn't have that much sex but I did go on dates with at least three or four different women on the last two years, had a good friend group who's left leaning, and things were looking up.

Fast forward to my trooning out and I'm now a resentful borderline fash individual. Everyday of my life for the last three months have been spent being either really sad, or really angry for no particular reason. I ghosted all of those four girls who I mentioned before, and have been drifting away from my friend group a little bit more each day because their politics now kinda disgust me and I don't want to hear about how "valid" I am for being a dysphoric male.
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>>40930178
>posts antisemitism any chance you can do
yea nah, also I don't even believe you are hsts
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>>40931669
Lack of sex makes people desperate. So it goes. Were they always gay deep down? Perhaps, I’m just saying what’s been noted as having been discussed
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>>40930281
You would let a trans woman raise your children? Bio mommy would get the full custody in a heartbeat
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>>40930158
The number one reason for all forms of terrorism is the society they're part of not serving their needs but having no option to escape. Incels need sex of course, but they also need love and understanding and companionship. All of those are things that women are given freely. Once they become women they have no more need to terrorize society and can actually become contributors to it. All that remains is some basic sympathy for the guys they had to leave behind and the quiet acknowledgment that our Sicily order is deeply unfair. The rage is gone because they no longer have to suffer that unfairness.

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A thread for all those who live in /pnw/. We have a diverse culture of LGBTQIA+ indivuduals here, such as:
>transbians
>diaper transbians
>polycule diaper transbians
>theyfabs
>transbians
QOTT: Are you a transbian?
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>>40930302
>qott
no im a chopped homosexual male with a disgusting estrogen fetish and i need to be put down
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any Canadians? BC feels so desolate
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im not a transbian im a chaser on estrogen
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>>40931725
Suck my gock, dude.

At what point during voice training do you start using your tranny voice around your friends?

Maybe im being a retard but do you wait until its passable? Do I just tell them "Oh guys btw Im going to sound like a weird faggot from now on" Im so lost, I need the practice during conversations but like either way im just going to look like a freak to them arent I
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>>40932420
Thats made me happy to read, thank you
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>>40932428
I like already feel uncomfortable talking like that to my friends, id actually rather rope than do it with strangers
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>>40932464
even with random people online?
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>>40932474
Yeah, I dont really like talking to random people that much normally
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>>40932375
I honestly still don't even talk with a some acquaintances if i feel like they'll give me shit for it despite the fact my voice passes well enough anons here will say so. So fwiw you're not alone in feeling like it's awkward and scary, you could literally have a mostly passing voice and still be like
>uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk if i want them to hear this
>they might mock me
>or even just feel uncomfortable and like I'm creepy...

I'd say just see if u have any (mutual / group) friends u feel could have your back and just sorta talk about these exact feelings with them. Especially say, after getting your voice good-enough at least in recordings and making it clear u won't cry if they feel it's bad and just wanna avoid it being annoying / unnatural sounding. That way first u know at least a couple friends are okay w/ you and can help give u support, then you swap when those friends think ur starting to do alright or aren't annoying, and ofc it could always have some awkwardness with some people (see: me rn) but >>40932420 starts to apply so hard.

Picel is vivian musk posing at a drag show. I really like her, but can someone explain why so many trannies hang around places like drag shows, waving the flag? It feels like this board is the only place who wants to actually transition, and not just be a fag in a dress? Or are normie trannies really ok with being put in the same category as a drag queen lol?

Please do not reply if you are anything but a mtf as I don't care to hear nor value your opinion. Thanks xo
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>>40932665
To many now trannies drag was our first safe outlet, it kinda works as a coping mechanism as well, you get to do something with your feminity instead of burying it inside. That's how I treated it, at least as long as it worked as a cope, all copes are doomed to fail eventually.
But it can also be confusing, I know some queens who didn't even realise they're trans until later on because they couldn't fully comprehend what's actually going on, why they had that nasty feeling that didn't go away, but got less severe while in drag.
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Flamers defending drag queens as trans "allies", this board has gone completely to shit.
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It's basically minstrelry. From what I've seen, no shade to queens, it's a way for young impoverished queer people to earn extra cash and have a community. It's sad that they have turn to clown shows to do that and I'm not gonna be all yass queen slay about it because it's fucking annoying and cringe. The first time I went to an event someone gave me cash to hand to the queen during her number because "you have to do it". It's such a ritualized performance.
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>>40932719
>It's basically minstrelry. From what I've seen, no shade to queens
Drag shows are in fact clown shows, drag queens, as in the personas they put on, are in fact a type of clowns, everyone within their community understands that. It's basically like mimes, jesters, and conventional clowns, one big clown family.
But what many fail to understand is that the queens, the gays behind the persona and not the persona itself, are different/separate persons from their clown personas.
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>>40932628
/THREAD

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>literally one of the most accepting places in the world for trannies
>MUH TERF ISLAND REEEEEEEEE
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>>40925366
Year, reference, who made this? This is some manipulative ms paint map used to further retarded agendas. I could say this is a map of people that answered yes to Portugal being a Slavic country by the distribution of the values.
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>>40925437
>bare faced self acknowledged projection onto all of humanity
Worst gaslight skill check I can recall
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>>40925366
>posts of a pic of 2015, the literal peak of trans acceptance

OP where have you been the last 10 years?
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>>40925366
>Passing UK tranny 10 years into transition
Its free as fuck here ngl. Just dont be poor or a lateshit.
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>>40925366
I don't need to check the source to know it's obviously outdated.

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Previous >>40915408

• Help, advice, guidance on meds and dosages
• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

See following post for a pharmacy list.

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▶ Survey data: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AudRJceTA5C9cyIWo6_X14AvHyM
▶ HRTGen Data Analysis: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gRLLWnbpdzlIxe4r
▶ HRT Info Sheets: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AudRJceTA5C9gQnyM7wxZcBGWRzW
▶ Pill ID: https://www.drugs.com/imprints.php
▶ DrugBank: https://www.drugbank.com/

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>>40931820
At this stage I can't even tell if you're serious or not..
Please stay far away from hormones.
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is there any real different between een ev ec aside from dosign frequency? reading language like "higher peaks" etc makes me scared my een wont be as effective as if i had chosen ec or ev
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>>40932517
</3
:(
I just want to look more feminine naturally..
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>>40930718
>blood tests
They're in the OP's resources.
▶ Blood tests (US): https://www.privatemdlabs.com/, https://www.labsmd.com/
▶ Blood tests (UK, Ireland): https://www.medichecks.com/
▶ Blood tests (Canada Only): https://bloodtestscanada.com/
▶ Blood tests (Sweden): https://werlabs.se/
▶ Blood tests by mail: https://www.letsgetchecked.com/
>what about ppl like hrtwinks or femboys? They seem to have relatively small breasts, plus if I'm taking a low dosage it won't grow so much right?
I can tell you that after only a few months, I got breasts that require a sports bra to hide, and that was on a dose that I made too low by mistake. How much or how little you grow breasts is very dependent on your genetics.
>>40931820
That drug is raloxifene. It inhibits breast growth but I don't know anything about it and I don't know anyone on this board who has claimed to use it long term
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>>40932581
If you really want to be feminine and take HRT forever but don't want breasts, you should plan on getting top surgery later.
But yeah, microdosing isn't really a thing. You can't pick and choose what happens. A low dose only slows everything down, but everything still happens simultaneously.

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>be me
>boymoder, 8 months on hrt
>spend my days doomscrolling, trying to cope with tfwnobf
>one evening i meet a boy on discord
>he's cute smart, creative, capable, sweet and we have common interests, basically a perfect man
>lives quite far away but it's manageable
>we click instantly
>we spend hours, talking late into the night about life, games and random stuff, sending each other memes and images
>he wants to date me
>i decide to be honest and tell him i'm trans
>ready to get ghosted
>"it's okay!"
>although he doesn't really understand what "being trans" pertains
>asks me a lot of dumb questions
>doesn't matter, i'm just glad that such a nice man accepts me

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