>be me>15yo mtf, youngshit>living in post-soviet shithole>3 months on hrt (een)>mentally unstable>hrt helped mentally a bit i think but made me hyper-aware of my face>underbite (braces won’t fix it), facial asymmetry and crooked nose absolutely ruin my self-perception>can’t even look in the mirror without spiraling>docs say orthognathic surgery only ~5 years away because age>grew up without a father>family extremely transphobic>mother would go nuclear if she found out about hrt>coming out would basically nuke my life: home, money, education, everything>zero social life>about to enter college, already burnt out and anxiousComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42309684get a depression diagnosis and get prescribed ssris if you haven't done that alreadytake them or not, it don't matter, it's all just meant to give the image of you not being suitable for drafts. the more mentally ill you are the better
>>42309804was at a private child psychotherapist at peak mental breakdowngot told i have severe anxiety + depressive statesno official diagnosis thoughobviously didn’t mention trans stuffmy issues were basically brushed off“limit screen time”, “do lymphatic drainage exercises”, prescribed fucking adaptol (placebo lol)can’t go to a psychiatrist on my ownmother doesn’t take me seriously at all, says it’s just teenage phase and will passbest case scenario is maybe seeing a therapist this summer because of specific circumstanceswill probably have to lie a bit just to be taken seriouslypost-soviet mental healthcare moment
makeup editionqott: do you do your makeup? how often?prev: >>42303481
>Pooner art
>>42307627Yeah i'd dress like that if i wasn't turbo boymoding. He's got that spot on.
>>42307513ya allah, help me resist the urge to 'ox this brimmy artist
>>42307609oh i figured, but i bought it with all that gooner art
i have been hate watching this guy for a while now. he has done everything, from claiming he roleplayed as an asian speaking in broken english because of racial delusion and because it was his age regressed alter at the same time, to posting his suicidal thoughts because some trans woman said she was uncomfortable with how he portrayed hitomi. i can talk about him for hours.i'll just show how he used to draw one of his trans male character vs now. (the now version looks identical to how he draws his other trans male ocs). feeling represented yet, doods? (no, the cat is not the ftm one)
>>42307921>>42307620>>42307520>he/him>it's puppychankek retards
Ok so you want to be more manly, more masculine. Not a pooner, not a boy, a man! Do you know that getting assfucked by older men and getting cum in your ass actually was believed to be the way to give masculinity to the boys in ancient greece?Why dont you do that?
>>42309239That sounds kinda gay homie. American Indians believed that power could be transferred from one man to another by sleeping with the same woman. I’d be more willing to try that, if I wasn’t already in a committed relationship.
I ran out of stuff to hate trannies with, but I can't quit this board as I am addicted to the pinkpilling LARPsUnfortunately, browsing the tttt catalogue for a good pinkpill LARP exposes me to threads made by happy trannies enjoying life and their new bodies, which constantly reminds me that twink death is looming and that HRT is gonna give me diminishing results the more I waitI hate that the only way out of my suffering is to be a body modding hedonist, but I don't have the strength to go partake in another masculine activity (repcope) as my AGP is literally crippling me, and sucking out my will to do anything, so the only energy I can muster is to hate the tranny essence in me to stay sane
>>42309786Ok I need to breathe for a bit cuz I cannot believe and comprehend half the stuff I am reading hereIt is like the Insight from Bloodborne
>>42309851Wait so you are like an atheist? Or just agnostic
>>42309860That's fair I'm mainly interested in this stuff because I've had a difficult life You should read Umineko (picrel) https://youtube.com/watch?v=OpHcE-Oxzg0&si=U335Dc53CvFZ1x4f (No I'm not avatarfagging as Beatrice, I like Battler more)
>>42309880Just agnostic. I dont believe in God anymore (because of how Buddhism influenced me, but I despise Buddhism now because its nihilistic and claims permanent heavens dont exist and erasing your own existence is the only way to end suffering) but I believe in gods. My belief is that gods are a type of being and that there are many of them, and they control our world / level of reality / our experience of reality as humans and they help us.
>>42309941My posts are making me realize I might just be a fem gay boy and not trans
>qott: do you think nurses are hot? if so why?
>>42309704in the untenability of positive punishment (adding something undesirable) try negative punishment (removing something desired)remember the punishment should happen as soon after the *initiation* of the action as possibleif she wants you there, wants to touch you, don’t let her. continue not letting her until she gives you something you want, and then you can give her the positive reward of the thing you were withholding i think you’re cut out for this. you can do it. you can always lock her in a cage if you can’t deal with her, puppygirls usually become much more manageable and, if not docile, obsequious after a day or two in a cage. it’s ironic because it’s the opposite for most other animals
>>42309740I want to manhandle those and their owner
>>42309791>>42309796you are deceived. but i like the attention thank you>>42309869please be a girl older and taller than me
>>42309740wow youre really beautiful. i want to kiss your abdomen
>>42309991sorry, am guy older and possibly taller than you
Take progesterone and get a man. Cuddled up in or held down by a man's arms, skin to skin, feeling his hot breath and burning hot desire is the best you'll ever feel.
>>42309102True though my shower schedule is weird (again 3 people 1 bathroom)
>>42308734if prog is just gonna make horny and give me (maybe) bigger boobs than I'm just gonna save my money and buy a porno mag
>>42309102>>42308979yeah literally. I just slip it in after using the bathroom and doing my skincare at night before bed, then wash my hands with soap. Done.
>>42308979nona i do this at work when i'm there late lol it's not as hard as you're thinking. i put the pill in my mouth, wet my hand with water, go into a stall, and stick it up. then i pull my pants up with one hand and waddle out and hope nobody comes in before i finish washing my hands and can button them back up LOL.you won't have that problem at home. it'll be okay
>>42310073See I have issues unless I use actual lube
bottomposting gets more replies when I post on /int/ than when I post on /lgbt/
>>42309621maybe he has...
>>42309226awww tiny bottom ^~^>>42309462cute!>>42309779nyoooo! >__< hehe... well it's okay, but, I think it's important they each have their distinct personalities... no gimmick stealing!
>>42309816what's he judging?
>>42309978your sins
>>42309978He's a bottom, so, everything
on sorry meit's always been the get-going-and-hump it kind of workare trans girls better at this? like do you actually like your partner being happy?asking for a fren
>>42309772sensationally it's mid but it's nice to know someone likes it that much idk, it's not like i get nothing out of it
>>42309772i (mtf) LOVE getting my dick suckedespecially by cute twinks or dominant men
>>42309787tht sounds 9retty good to me. but do you finishe the things you've started?
my boyfriend cums but only if I work his frenulum a lot I'd like to think trans girls are good at sucking dicm cuz we have to be
>>42309772I've come from oral but mostly I think that I'm just easy to get off. think about horny stuff plus stimulation and I'll cum in like a minute or two. Men seem to get way to in their head about their sex performance
The greatest cispoon of all time
Holy based
>>42301660Nothing says mentally healthy like poisoning your five children
>>42306541He did it for the love of the game.
>>42307603Ja!
Barney Fife looking guy
>mfw i see there's a football team called the packers
founded by the klan meatpackers go celebrate it
>>42307885Gem
>>42307885Football is a great sport; you can look for your street, your neighborhood, and participate in tournaments. You don't earn much from it (if anything, of course), but you can be an amateur. Professional level is very rare, and it hardly ever happens.Depending on your age, it's better to go for boxing, jiu-jitsu, or judo. These also have tournaments and more chances of becoming a professional. And who knows if it's allowed to use the name "Packer" as a nickname; Rodrigo Nogueira uses "Minotauro" as a nickname, haha.
Wauwzies watching football with the bois and throwing my packer against the TV in anger because that's what real men do Frfr
>>42307885I saw that on the tv and I did laugh a little so I'm glad someone else thinks the same way
this is probably gonna die but eh. bi ftms welcome tooQOTT: will you volcel or will you run the risk of dating a guy and having him turn out to be straight?
>>42306815Nigga.... How old are you....
any gaydens in georgia, us
>>42308320Get out moid
>>42308320hook up with an agp pooner
>>42307964A true woman will always love making her presence known and as insufferable as possible in places nobody wants her in.
eyebrow plucking, makeup and laser are the /tttt/ equivalents of telling incels to get a haircut and take a shower
>>42309932yes and adulthood is realizing they're both right
>>42309932those and saying to eatbeauty / passing is only about bone structure
I pass just fine without makeup
>>42309932youre retarded if you think theyre equivalent. eyebrow and laser especially can take you from non-passing to passing.
It's hilarious to me that for MtFs, passing now means "passing as a trans woman." As in, other people realize you're trying to be a woman, and pronoun you accordingly.Back before the public became hugboxy, you couldn't have gotten away with that. It was pass as cis female or bust. Visibly trans women and cross-dressers (same thing to the public) got "sir."
>>42308676>>42308702Now fight!
>>42308740Eh if >>42308702 means they’re only gendered female in a group of friends that’s a bit more normal. From my experience it’s just painfully clear they're not even thinking twice about how they’re gendering you and maybe don’t even realise you’re trans when you’re stood there in a full face of makeup and voicetrained while being he/him’d. My go-to example will just always be how doctors, therapists, psychs gender me, they start gendering female and begin slipping up more and more before giving up and going back to gendering you male.
>short people gender me male>tall people gender me female
>>42308649Is this some new kind of goalpost moving?Like, it's not enough that all trannies be clockable, now they have to not even look like troonjaks?So...wouldn't that satisfy chuds?
>>42309640The only acceptable way to be trans is not to transition
This thread is dedicated to informing people genuinely questioning the legitimacy of being transgender, educating lurkers/posters of /lgbt/, as well as dismantling the idiocy, misinformation/disinformation and bad faith actors from transphobes (/pol/). Please refer to the following link when discovering a fallacy as well as properly linking to any of the following studies that most accurately counters flawed logic, or best supports the evidence and legitimacy for being transgender when questioned.https://www.logicalfallacies.org/pt 1/?
>>42309376I do not cause i wanna be a woman. As feminine as i can be and not be prisoner of my dysphoria and not suffocated by its misery. I fucking hate being a man and everything about it! Never wanna be it ever. If i could choose which i would be born i would choose woman every time. To be beautiful. I feel like you trannies who wish to be a man if you are AMAB just have self-hatred, because that's how i was when i was repper. That groomed self-hatred is from the environment you were raised. Saddest thing is when they think you can be only woman if you like "fembrained" stuff. When that is often just society's enforced stuff. World will never be black and white! All of our oppressors are those liars who try to pretend that would be truth.
>>42306950>at the end of the day knowledge doesnt mean anything without power.Knowledge will continue to challenge and question the ignorant’s perception of reality when said perception is built on flawed logic, paving the way for societies based on concrete studies when they do return into power.>basis of scant or selective evidenceAll the more important we continue dispelling misinformation, and help educate one another in order to move closer towards a sensible world grounded in logic than deception.>>42307010>what is even the story behind these articlesHonestly you should be reading those articles to receive that answer. But each one is going to tackle specific topics regarding on treatment and legitimacy for trans people: neurological evidence supporting gendered brains and trans gender identity; GAC reducing suicide rates and with societal support that number is reduced and inline with the greater population; alternative methods in treating trans people shown no positive results, etc.>feminist sees that story they are geared against the essentialism>chud or even most "right wing" and "centrist" people see this, the narrative is you are a crazyDoes not excuse submitting to a flawed understanding of reality to placate the ignorant.>there needs to be a narrative, and people will interact with said narrativesAm i not clarifying the narratives for you? Or is your argument that it is not palatable for a more unified group supporting trans people? The narrative to me is grounding the logic and biological evidence to transgender identity as legitimate. Have you read the articles/studies yourself? What did you come up with?
(Cont.)>>42309708>entire logic of legitimization is centred on the whims and attitudes of people who fundamentally do not respect trans people regardless of the actual facts that can be laid downThis leads me into the argument in favor for playing optics, being stealth/invisible, don’t upset the majority when you’re a minority; “pick-mes”. An argument rooted in “just shut up and do what we say and maybe we’ll let you continue living”. It is both deceptive and enables problematic approaches towards integrating minorities in society, and affirms discriminatory power to those that get to pull the levers. Legitimacy must be obtained with truth in hand and dismantling problematic societal practices.>>42309401>engage in good faithI attempted to give that person credit in the ability to read the commentary in each post prefacing important context of each group of links, selecting the ones appropriate (such as evidence towards biological components for trans gender brains) and informing themself on how the word “delusion” does not fit anywhere in this discourse.>nobody is going to readPlenty of those genuine in their pursuit of grounded logic involving trans people, already have and will continue to do so. But if people aren’t here with an honest inquiry in search of scientific based answers, I can not force them to read, and they’re most likely here to push anti-intellectual rhetoric based on biased views and flawed logic; people that won’t be convinced no matter how persuasive the conversation leads.
>>42309609nona i don't think you understand what i'm saying. i like being a woman, too. i'm not very well built for it, though; my body is just very masculine. when i was a naïve teenager i probably would have still chosen to transition because i so desperately wanted to be female, but, realistically, if something could have been done, medically, to make me totally okay with being male, that would have made my life objectively easier. and i wouldn't BE dysphoric. i have no desire whatsoever to be male today and honestly i do think it is a kind of blessing to be transgender, but i can't say that i would, like, recommend it to anybody. it would be nice if people got to have a choice. a free choice. in this world i should hope that by now you could buy hormones over the counter anywhere if you wanted to.
>>42309862am not the poster you’re responding to but; that type of logic leads to a very problematic, and destructive principle to be set: changing someone’s core identity. It’s not like some magic machine that removes your addiction with alcohol or deleting traumatic memories. It’s more like deleting a core ideal to you like if you’re a history nerd and changing that to being a botanist; or you were a die hard fan for one football team and now you’re supporting the other instead. And this extrapolates to: should you be able to remove being gay? Imagine having your entire sexual preference just changed due to stigma; no longer feeling the same type of love or connection to a partner. It’s a very ethically charged option to offer in reality.
