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>be me (FTM, 18)
>live with transphobic parents
>live in a country where HRT is free if you have a gender dysphoria diagnosis
>therapist says he won’t diagnose me unless i come out to my parents first
>buying T at the drugstore costs 300 [currency] per month

my mom cries hysterically/screams at me/calls me a dyke/tells me to stop ruining myself every time i cut my hair short and tomboymode, i think she’d have a stroke if i pooned out
but i also think i’m too retarded to get a job
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>>42307227
Sounds like the only way out is to get a job and stand on your own feet. Or become my repper gf, your choice
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>>42307242
*sexually abused
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>>42307227
you need to move out. how do you know you can't get a job? it might be hard if you're autistic but it's not impossible
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>>42307227
what's your 'cord?
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>>42307227
>tells me to stop ruining myself every time i cut my hair short and tomboymode, i think she’d have a stroke if i pooned out
but i also think i’m too retarded to get a job

tsmt. i felt that

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What do bottoms do when they become old and undesirable? Women can still be milfs in old age, older tops can be silver fox daddies, but absolutely nobody likes post-wall bottoms
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>>42303318
i mean i consider myself a failed tranny but it saved me from the rope, got me a few friends, made me more comfortable.
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>>42303711
afraid of aging as a man*
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>>42292468
>>42292468
Your question is confused. Anime forum fantasies aren’t real life.

1. Masc bottoms and masc-for-masc tops are a very real thing.

2. Male femininity =/= looking like a catgirl or a child. Not all gay or bi men into feminine You can age into androgyny gracefully if you actually understand how to dress well, groom, or wear make-up if that’s your thing. (And even if you look awful… those ancient gremlin-y crossdressers still manage to get laid. A surprising amount of guys actively like that: the guys who put “looking for CD” on their Grindr profiles are well-aware that “CDs” are not going to look like Kim Petras.)

3. Bottoms aren’t semi-girls and tops aren’t just slightly confused straight men. Even couples where there’s a quasi-gendered dynamic in terms of roles or appearances can have the opposite during sex.

4. Not all tops are pedophiles.

Nearly half the bi guys I’ve dated have been bottoms, and all of them relatively-to-very masculine. And I was into it even though I lean sub bottom because… male bodies are physically adapted to thrusting dicks into things that make them horny. I’m 31 and absolutely look it, yet I get more attention now from all ages than I did when I was in my early 20s and (in retrospect) effortlessly decent-looking on a good day. If you told me then that the cute 18-25 bi tops I was after then would only be trying to fuck me *now* I wouldn’t have believed you. And I maintain my body and flexible enough that if a sub bottom texts me, I can swap the Urban Decay palette and blousy shirt for a black merzbow shirt and smeared eyeliner and suddenly I’m just and edgy top with long hair. This shit isn’t hard. Just know your audience and actually take care of yourself.
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>>42305527
* Not all gay or bi men into feminine guys are just into twinks or trans women.
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>>42305527
>If you told me then that the cute 18-25 bi tops I was after then would only be trying to fuck me *now* I wouldn’t have believed you.
I've been filtering out younger ones thinking they wouldn't want me, hmm

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Did any of you noticed changes to your personality?
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>>42305667
nigga that's not how it works. changes don't occur that quick
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>>42305814
Nigga damn let me be happy why you fucking up my vibe and shit ..
Also it made me tired really quickly
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>>42305814
>>42307357
eh, your brain probably gets swamped in E in a manner of hours, so I wouldn't be surprised
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>ftm
I don’t think my personality changed at all really, but my friend at the time, now my girlfriend, said she could tell a difference immediately. She said since I started T I speak and move more forcefully than I did before. Maybe it’s hormonal, but I think it’s probably just confidence.
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>>42307404
I'm happy but now going on here is making me depressed because I'm so far away from my goal. It's really frustrating
Not to mention my life has been a shitshow for the last few years so after literally almost a full year of repping and finally starting hrt now I realize I'm gonna have to wait literal years for this to get where I want it to be
And I fucked up my eyebrows plucking them too far a few months ago so now I literally NEED to wear (eyebrow) makeup not to look like shit but I hate wearing only eyebrow makeup and nothing else so I wear eyeliner again and my mom gets upset and shit even though she accepted when I came out at 13 and I basically just have to live as a gay femboy and its making me upset BECAUSE I WANT TO BE A MOTHERFUCKING GIRL ALREADY. BEING TRANS IS HELL. IT WOULD BE BETTER TO JUST BE BORN AS A WOMAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN I PLAN ON GETTING BOTTOM SURGERY ANYWAY.
rant over.

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26/M/US

im looking for friends and maybe more to hang out with

I'm into fighting games and tf2, animanga and other nerd shit im lonely add me disc - oneyplaysfan1738

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4tran4 is so weird why would they repost my thread about a struggle about my body I don't see how that is humorous or funny, this sub is quite cringe and 4chan lingo in general is cringe now. but anyway if anyone did see that thread ive come to accept it and have been and will continue to take my shots.
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>>42307167
It's retards who think /tttt/ is about being mean/"truscum" but don't actually have the nerve to stay here and get it dished out to them. They need their little reddit safespace. Weaklings.
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>>42307268
Truest shit ive ever seen; dumbass edgy tryhards
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Reddit has excellent weight gain fetish content Im goinf to jerk off again
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>>42307062
I don’t even get why this is a post their lol i’ve seen that one botched srs picture here like 50 times but that’s never posted there like wtf
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>>42307414
They want to shame me for my Gross Body and humiliated me publicly I suppose and is more intimate cuz im a real person on Here whereas the fucked up srs Pic is a old reddit post

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It’s been 9 months and in the beginning, the thought of stopping HRT was scary because of how much progress I made over the years but as time has passed, I’m now developing an urge or feelings again that I felt before I started HRT; that are happening now.

I need to know if this is possible to avoid and escape. I have Jesus in my life, I pray everyday, and I don’t present feminine anymore, I deleted all platforms that encourage femininity and influence, and i dropped supporting friends about it.

If you have any supplements, strategies, sources, or anything that can help me rid of these feelings permanently.. I would be very grateful.
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>>42306442
Why is it disrespecting Jesus to be trans or non masculine. Wtf is wrong with you. Its just a stupid book, you must be in some Trump loving town and overwhelmed by peer pressure or your just retarded and gonnaive a sad life because of it
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amish ppl transition?
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>>42306442
ummm girl with how beautiful you are as a woman i think you can easily get trade on any dating app
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>>42306442
Also how in the world do you expect to have a baby? Adopt?
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>>42306442
Again, Jesus doesn't fucking care if you're a transwoman you can literally still be a Christian trans woman holy fuck

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>qott: do you think nurses are hot? if so why?
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>>42307029
Get really really loud and tell her that she's a bad dog!
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>>42304257
>>42304632
i... forgot to make it a reply....
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>>42307094
You're so desperate nona
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>>42307047
hi again,
this didn't work. if anything, it made her more ravenous.
i'm at a loss. i don't know what to do. my butt is very sore at this point.
someone help
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>>42307113
shushhh.... yes i am,.,. ive gotten attaches to the larps they're fun and hot and nice and (i still feel like i should beg that anon permission before i get off to them...)

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How are there trannies who work decent office jobs and make six figures and have 401ks and a nice house and a nice car and have surgeries on a whim without ever having to consider doing sex work and stuff? Meanwhile me who dropped out of HS and did service jobs until mom pulled some strings to get me into a school that helped me get a nail tech license for cheap just to end up making less in tips than a cis woman for the same amount of work and skill. I can barely afford to live on my own and my car is literally about to die any moment now and I'm really scared you know? I don't even have health insurance and stuff is expensive enough already. I don't have what it takes to do sex work despite literally every single one of my trans friends doing some sort of sex work and encouraging me to do it. I don't want to disvovle into a kid and move back in with mom's again. She's such a busy body and picks on every thing. I don't know guys I just don't
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>>42307306
>i havent noticed the riots
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>>42307196
SRS folks seem to be more understanding than urologists. I managed to save up 5k, and... anyways, this was back in the late 2000s, early 2010s. They would do weird ass bait and switch. "Oh, I have the license to do orchi in the office without an OR as an out patient procedure!" You'd show up, go through the consult, schedule a date, make a down payment. "Oh, sorry, that was the down payment for me, you still need to get an OR, that will be another 15k."

Sometimes I got my money back, sometimes I didn't. Eventually, I got insurance that would cover it through work and I didn't pay a fucking dime.

Soviet luckshit anon doesn't understand it's luck. I'm happy for her, but she doesn't have to act like we have a character defect because we got scammed a bunch, shessh.
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>>42307352
yeah :( it's really luck, but also dont give up
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>>42307352
>but she doesn't have to act like we have a character defect
I'm not though.
I object to being called luckshit by people who never had to dig through shit and who generally had to face a lot less hardship.
You don't have a character defect, you're just wrong about calling others lucky.
>we got scammed a bunch
That sucks balls. I could write a book about the scams in post-communist Europe.
Yeah, I never got scammed on tranny-specific stuff. But I (like tens of millions of others) was scammed by the multitude of schemes that plagued the post-communist zeitgeist in all of eastern Europe from Estonia to Bulgaria and from Georgia to Czechia.
Hugs.
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>>42307372
You were lucky you weren't killed.
I am lucky to have accepting and loving fundementalist Christian parents
I am lucky to have survived homelessness and not be murdered like so many others like me back in the 1990s and 2000s.
I am lucky to have survived the gunfights I went through.
You are lucky that you have the emotional fortitude to actually grind and not lay down and die.

Again. It's luck. We're not too different. I just recognize it was a fuck ton of luck on my part.

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How much work, time and thoughts you are sex related? How important is sex stuff in you life?
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transbian
-I masturbate 2 to 4 times a month, each session can last 2 minutes to 15 minutes.
-There are random thoughts throughout the day, for example just seeing the OP pic I had a ape-ish caveman feeling of "grug see round butt cheek and boob, me like" thought that lasted a second or two. That probably adds up to something by the end of the day because sexualized images and thumbnails are everywhere(commercials, videogames, thumbnails, social media).
-Sometimes when I'm falling asleep I think about romantic kissing, sex and attractive body parts because it's a nice daydream.
-I'm not in a relationship right now but that would add a huge chunk of time if I was because you're having sex a lot and expressing your attraction to one another.
Just generously saying 2 hours a week are spent thinking about sex or engaging in masturbation that would mean 1.1% of my week is related to sex. When I'm in a relationship that % is higher
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>>42306582
I thought lgbt and especially transbians are the horniest people

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I'm not a prodigy or whatever but I'm surrounded by people who are so fucking dumb that they actually believe I am one. I grinded pretty hard to avoid sex work most of my life because I knew troons are stereotyped to do it and I didn’t want to you know? I grew up around prostitutes, they were kind to me, but I saw how fucking brutal it was. None of them made it to an old age. And i don't think capitalism is impossible to beat or whatever, i would prefer a better economic system, but i am saying i myself can go far enough just by grinding, but the thing is no matter how self-sufficient i am and how much i try to avoid being a prostitute, the guys who are into trans girls are so pornbrained and interact with trans girls in the context of prostitution that they treat me like one anyway. The secrecy, the emotional distance, acting like they own me even when i am particular about splitting the bills always if not paying it entirely myself. Like, what's the point of even avoiding sex work at this point if the conditions are like sex workers' anyway. Every single relationship just repeated patterns i saw in the lives of the sex workers whose pain i promised myself i would avoid. I don't know how to explain it, I've seen non-sex-worker cis women and their relationships are not like that. Jesus fuck was it so fucking evil of me to have wanted a normal fucking relationship dynamic
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>>42303388
the heteronormative dynamic has failed
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>>42303388
>I'm not a prodigy or whatever but I'm surrounded by people who are so fucking dumb that they actually believe I am one.
real, most people feel so fucking stunted, no wonder people used to be so secular socially. this has nothing to do with general intelligence being up to par or anything most people are just genuinely seriously stunted as people emotionally tbhon. people like the moids you're talking about are much more often just lacking the planes of thought that separate people from animals i swear.
sorry if this is kinda unrelated of a rant, it always just looked like only a fraction of humanity is actually living. most people just feel like p-zombies, like a severe special needs case that just learned how to behave physically normal. humans rlly are incapable of meta-analysis in that their society or way of life or anything is a fools errand and ideally shouldnt exist ig, humanity doesn't question itself a thousandth as much as it thinks it does.

idk honestly, i'm sorry you have to go through that OP. you deserve better than that. you deserve freedom honestly . i mostly just cope with relationship sort of stuff by pursuing art and secular media/classic literature type stuff, but that's definitely a very specific solution
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>>42303388
getting a genuine relationship is rng as any type of person
You just have lower odds and have to keep rolling more
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>>42303388
gem post
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>>42303388
just become my gf, op

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like not disgusted because the person in the mirror is ugly, but disgusted because it is simply a body that is. not. theirs.

is dysphoria comparable to normal types of dysmorphia in any way?
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>are sane people insane?
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>>42305266
Knowing actual cis men makes this statement sound insane. Most cis men love seein a man in the mirror, no matter how hairy
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>>42307310
Yes, growing bald is great we all love being ugly
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>do [incoherent schizo babble]
yup its tttt alright
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>>42307317
Most men don't like going bald, but they'll always take it over taking hrt. Plenty outright refuse to use any fin or dut to treat their hair loss, cause they're scared of having slightly softer skin.
If you equate being a man with being ugly, then you're almost certainly dysphoric yourself

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poosi

>"if you don't like where the US is heading, leave for a safer country"
>government deletes your passport
wat nou
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>>42305966
Walk into Mexico, nobody will stop you unless you walk back accross
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stop doing "activism". instead start acquiring collective economic security and social mobility
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-11-04-On-The-Transgender-Question.html
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/42241068/#42246065

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I genuinely do not understand why I am not more dysphoric, and my lack of dysphoria is genuinely distressing to me.
Basically everything about my body and self screams that I am male. I have huge hands, huge shoulders, a huge head, a very deep voice, a pronounced browridge, a huge forehead, a long midface, a massive torso, a visible Adam's apple, and so on and so forth, yet I barely feel anything.
I really feel like all of them should feel explicitly wrong and distressing, but I'm just not phased by them, even though I definitely should be.
This lack of explicit dysphoria is most distressing because I feel like it implies that I actually somehow like whatI currently have, and I really don't want that to be the case.
It all makes me feel like I'm in denial of being cis man, which is a genuinely dreadful thought, but I simply can't let go of it, and it makes me doubt everything I do. Is there any good way to overcome such thoughts?
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>>42306170
Just be happy you're not severely dysphoric ffs
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>>42306292
I'm trying, and rationally I am glad, but it just very much feels like it shouldn't be this way
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>>42302881
this is how i feel i think but i just see it as dissassociation, its not possible for you to feel raw pain about the same thing over and over, you just know it bothers you but you cant feel it anymore
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>>42306502
I really hope that's the case, and I also really hope I'll be abke to find a way out of this purgatory
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>>42302881
Many people exaggerate their dysphoria to appear more trutrans. If the fact that you're not as severely dysphoric is bothering you, you're certainly dysphoric enough to benefit from transitioning

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i am a cis man on hrt
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>>42305459
i see
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>>42299152
>i am a cis "man" on hrt
>cis
>man
>estrogen
>a cis man on estrogen
>a cis man on female hormones
>female
>man = male
>estrogen = female hormones
>female = woman
>"cis"
Somebody slap this bitch
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.>>42304130
i'm cis m too. i started at 15 and had some ffs last year.
i just believe taking a trans identity is almost never a worthwhile endeavor. is a disordered way of life generally, regardless of your motivation.

>>42306025
female hormones /= female ofc
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>>42306118
i started at 17
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>>42299152
And I'm a deaf man listening to music


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