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Do you get angry whenever people say dude/bro when talking to you?
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>>42332349
get annoyed when know the person doesnt say it all the time, and just "happen" to use it for me after know tranny
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>>42332349
no i dont have autism (thank god)
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>>42334857
whatever man. lets just chill broheim
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What ever do you mean, my guy? My good dood?
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>>42334545
Caaan you give me your jugular teehee

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I have an opportunity to be in a relationship rn with an old friend (we even hooked up) but i just know that I have too many mental health problems, i couldn't be there for them or do the bare minimum and im just consumed with these terrible thoughts so i have to spend most of the day in bed. as much as i know its all just distortions but i keep thinking people want to hurt me or kill me. i know its not true but then i get wrapped in these unending fantasies about it and then i really start thinking about hurting myself, like it feels like that would fix it or if she just hurt me herself, but all of that would probably make me a really bad partner. the thing too is that she's actually a psychologist and she's had her own mental health struggles, i know she would understand but i think it would be too much for her, i'd hurt her somehow or just pull her down with me. im already such a bad friend with how bad i am about reaching out first or responding to her (or anyone in my life). but i also just long so much for a relationship, to be taken care of and to take care of, for closeness and trust, for security and intimacy, and to have someone in my corner. i've been in therapy for so long and i live in a mental health residential and no meds or treatments or therapies have stopped it. im at a loss, do i wait until im better and deny myself all that comes with a relationship for as long as it takes or do i risk the wellbeing of someone i really care about so that i can have that closeness?

>t. bi mtf
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>>42334822
but she would say yes regardless and its not even just her its anybody really that i might find myself close to. besides nobody knows what they're getting into until they're in it
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>>42334834
take all of your bpdemon thoughts, put them in a jar and don't unleash it on them
journal or something
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>>42334805
As someone in similar shoes although maybe without as destructive tendencies you have (DPDmoder) I say go for it. I don't want to wait and lose what could be a good partner that things work out with in the end. All is fair in love and war
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i got my shark at first for the meme but now he's all i have to hold and help me when i start spiraling. and i think i need to just crash out a little bit sometimes but i couldn't do that if i was with or near someone.

>>42334871
i really don't want to hurt myself and i've been trying so hard, i've only cut once in the past year. but its going to come out sideways somehow or just be some intense stressor or something

>>42334873
but i don't think all is fair in love (or war for that matter), and i might really fuck her up without even knowing or intending to, and it might just be so overwhelming for her.
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>>42334929
as long as you honestly lay out all your issues on the table and she as an adult agrees with full knowledge you are morally in the right for attempting to pursue romance. Love is important and it's worth risking hurt for.

If you want to be self sacrificing and suffer without ever taking a chance, that is also a valid path

You simply have to make the choice and neither is better than the other

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do trannies have nice feet?
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>>42334373
>>42334403
You like them?? o.O
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>>42334437
Tbh, I know they’re pretty hehe.. got almost 1k followers on x now
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>>42334364
>>42334437
>>42334450
>>42334462
Need to get some sleep, up suuuper early. One more for the night, and I I’ll try check in at work or just lurk. Here’s when I tried pink with with blue tips x
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>>42334364
sniiiif

I'm 24m and don't know what to think. Never gave it much thought.
I'm very attracted to cis girls and slept around a lot. Then it gets complicated.
I like trans girls, hyper feminine ones, Brazilian pornstar type, for which I lean slightly towards being a bottom.
I like femboys, but I could only be strictly top.
I hate to admit it, but also very masculine men, and I could only bottom.
What is this? I barely ever watch porn, I might break every couple of weeks or so. I had a couple of experiences irl with all that I've listed (often a bit drunk) and some I enjoyed a lot but often had a sense of guilt. I don't imagine myself as a woman when it comes to bottoming, more as a femboy or something. But I'm very masculine in day to day life - muscular, extraverted, have typically masculine hobbies, 6'3, bodyhair.
This is the first time I'm actually thinking about this, how do I make sense out of this
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Repressed bi guy
Just don’t pressure yourself, try to work through your shame
Don’t have to publicly identify any way or do anything different if you don’t want
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>>42333849
ur jst bisexual lol
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>>42334641
That's what I'm wondering about, I do get very strong sexual urges but I'm scared to act on them due to shame, which is why 99% of my experiences have been drunk.
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>>42334596
i don't think you need to come out if your preference isn't men, overcome your guilt by realizing you're allowed to have sex with whatever gender you want, you already have
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Pansexual

am i a bad person for feeling a deep need to just immediately kill myself or go back to self harming because of this
>first week back at uni
>transfem
>pass well enough no one rly gives me second guesses and i get gendered fem 99% of the time
>albeit i dont voice train cause im retarded so im clocky in that aspect but most people assume im just a theyfab for some reason cause of it
>sitting by myself in one of my classes, in walks another transfem much clockier than me not that im trying to be mean
>introductions go around, moment i open my mouth they dart their attention to me
>deep hallow pit opens in my stomach
>rest of class i just feel like total shit
>as im making my way to leave after all is said and done she makes a b-line for me making me feel even more like shit
>just try and keep casual conversation as i find my fastest way out of the building
>get back to my car and feel a deep carnal need to just shove a rusty razor against my throat
im not even trying to be mean cause i get the desire to have other trans friends but something about being so obviously picked out like that puts a deep desire in my chest to just fucking kill myself

if said person in question is reading this btw i promise im not being mean nor do i look down on you in any way im just a deeply self conscious, retarded, and depressed bitch
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you do look down on them though. that's why it bothers you so much.
at least be honest about it. i mean, i guess it's ego dystonic, so that's something.
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>>42333383
>transfem
>dont voice train
why do people who call themselves that always have the most masculine voices imaginable? voice training is not that hard to do
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wow
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>>42333383
>be me mtf
>reading OP's post
>transfem
>doesn't voice train
>hmm I wonder if she will get into an incident because she's a lazy stupid bitch who didn't voice train
>...
>yup wow
FUCKING VOICE TRRAIN, PROBLEM SOLVED

I FUCKING hate looking like a moid with a fat ass and shitty moobs bit no but it makes me look completely gimped as a manmoder it's fucking infuriating and so soul crushing. Like everyone I talk to KNOWS my body is fucked but can't pin it but they still despise it.
At this point I almost wish I was a fatass so that way if I had a gut people would just think I'm a fat man BUT NO and my face is so obviously moidly I barely malefail. HRT really is a fucking psyop, 15 months and this is all I get...
Anyone in a similar situation wanna rope together? We could die and be happy as 3rd gender untranny valley freaks
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>>42334698
op u can't just type all this and not post ass
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i love people with fat asses and shitty moobs who have been on HRT for 15 months but look like a MOID. I LOVE THEM SO MUCH its UNREAL. you are so perfect. How do I acquire a specimen like this?
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>>42334698
it cant be that bad. show us nona
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NO! My boyfriend carried me on fortnite tonight so were basically married hence no ass todai

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I’ve seen lots of people saying “if you’re into yuri that means you must be a lesbian” but I’ve genuinely tried being a lesbian and it just felt awkward. I just enjoy watching.
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>>42334931
liking yuri specifically is fembrained, liking lesbian porn is malebrained
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>>42334931
i jerk off to it once in a while because more booba, cancel me if u want

t. bi male
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>>42334946
I don’t watch irl porn in general but would jacking off to yuri with sexual content still count as fembrained?

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Homes that are well laid out with good spacing, color palettes, and themes are fembrained. Cluttered autism dens with anime posters haphazardly mashed together on a wall are malebrained. So trannies, what's your excuse for your living space looking like shit?
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>>42334936
>what's your excuse for your living space looking like shit?
money

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Why do people get so surprised when I say I haven’t been gendered female once after years of transitioning and girlmoding? Is malefailing that common?
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>>42334801
did u voice train? work on body language at all?
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>>42334869
I’ve had laser. I still have to shave every few days in some unlucky spots but I don't need to colour correct when I wear makeup though I still do it to be safe.
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>>42334893
Yes and yes too. I’ve been complimented on both.
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>>42334914
what did you mean when you said you're a bit too visibly trans? like what features are causing that if you had to guess?
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>>42334940
Height (6ft or so) is my main guess, my face also is very masculine without makeup but im gendered the same way no matter how much I have on.

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the last year has been a realisation for me that my transition will only be downhill from here. Ive lost pretty much all hope that used to keep me motivated to keep improving my lifestyle and my appearance. FFS did not do enough for me, I realise that my large core proportions are always going to hold me back from ever feeling like I'm one of the women in my life. I am slowly starting to soft detransiton into a shameful kind of androgynous non-binary man thing. Ngl it's not getting better after 25 is it. There's no 2nd peak to look forward to after this - the ship has sailed
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>>42334656
Girl please
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>>42334656
You could rent that thing out as ad space
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Ulookgoodgurl
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>>42333897
>random woman who passes incredibly well complains about what an ugly hon she is
why does everyone on this board want me to kill myself?
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Nona, I have to tell you this in case no one has. You look like a woman. But you never developed a social framework of interacting with others in which you don't assume you are being perceived as an ugly, clocky gigahon. Now you struggles to integrate yourself into cis circles, despite looking the part, because your accrued neuroses and dysmorphia refuses to let you accept that it's possible. All that's left for you, it seems, is to return to the only place you think you belong and scrape hits of serotonin from the envy of other trannies.

Passing will not make you happy. It will just make you look like a woman. Now the real work begins. Good luck dear.

Please level with me, the Reddit crowd was super difficult when I asked them about this and I want brutally honest answers.

My boyfriend & I are both in our early 20s and I recently found out that he has been taking estrogen for months. He's been looking different and had low libido, so I figured something was up but he never told me what he was doing, didn't ask me what I thought, etc. I have no idea what he was thinking because it isn't easy to hide the physical effects of estrogen.

What I am wondering:

>How long will it take for his breasts to finish growing? He's got b cups and it's sort of weird seeing boobs there.
>Is there any way to cure AGP?
>Is there a connection between AGP and high functioning "computer nerd" personality types?
>Do small men tend to have more or less change? My boyfriend is 5'6" and skinny (although he seems to be gaining weight).
>He wants fat transfer, is that safe?

I'm not transphobic, just want honest answers. I tried saying that my bf has agp behaviors on Reddit and got massacred for it, even though I live with him and have seen it for years.
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>>42334388
only people who already semi-pass without hrt should be allowed to transition
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>>42334207
I didn't say they should.
I merely listed what usually tends to happen and linked to a place specifically dedicated to this issue.
In practice, even though oftentimes the relationships collapse, the former partners do remain relatively close friends.
Transition is not easy. I'm not blaming anyone for deciding that it's too hard to bear it happening in their partner. But I will congratulate those who manage to stick with it. It's a commendable thing to do.
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>>42334429
To be honest, before I make a final decision on our relationship, I want to figure out exactly what is going on. From my perspective, it seems very noteworthy that my boyfriend grew up with a severely emotionally abusive mother who failed to empathically mirror when communicating with him and has now heavily "internalized" his sexual desires. It could be interpreted as a slightly autistic man's defense mechanism, worsened by a porn addiction.

>>42334388
There are studies showing trans women's brains range from androgynous (similar to gay men aka "hsts") to just as masculine as cis men.

>Contrary to the primary hypothesis, no sex-atypical features with signs of ‘feminization’ were detected. The present study does not support the dogma that [male-to-female transsexuals] have atypical sex dimorphism in the brain.
>https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article-abstract/21/11/2525/275208?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false

The results vary drastically based off whether you are testing "transbians" or gay men who wish to live as women. The latter also show more signs of pre-hrt physical feminization (such as in bone structure).

I live with a biological male who has clear agp tendencies and is significantly less mentally feminine than my gay male coworker (who told me he used to wish he was a woman as a teen, but grew out of it).
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>>42334529
Part 2: after reviewing multiple brain scans by Savic et. al, what struck me was that the researchers found non-sex related neurological abnormalities associated with autism.

So my own theory is that hsts = genuinely feminized and agp = autistic brain + escapism + trauma. There's also a clear trend for AGPs to admit to having had their "egg cracked" by being exposed to gender fetish erotic / porn. My boyfriend says he got obsessed with this stuff after the Scooby Doo 2 gender scene and I found like 5 others online who said the same. They all got hooked on this at a young age, it was sexual, and it then escalated.

So you take a high iq, slightly traumatized 12 year old boy and show him soft gender bender erotica and he gets turned on by it and slowly begins building a female personality artifact. That artifact will defend itself / retcon events to doctors / etc. Narratives associated with hsts transsexuals are then coopted by autosexuals because they make normies view them as "trutrans."

Living with my boyfriend, it is painfully clear he is a male-brained person who wishes he were a woman. I sympathize with him and love him, but I am not going to lie about what's going on.
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>>42334529
>>42334612
AGP/hsts is not such a meaningful distinction as people want it to be.
I am not an autist and didn't suffer any trauma (that I know of, anyway).
At 21 I thought I "grew out of it" (like your gay coworker). Then at 30 it came back with vengeance. I repped harder for years to the point that this shit was eating 70%+ of my brain bandwidth.
I didn't even know the word "transgender" until age 19 or so (when I still wanted to be a woman) and found tranny porn at 22 or so (after I had "grown out of it"). I was always bi anyway. Still am.
Be that as it may, I did tell my wife about these things many years ago and kept her updated about it. She accompanied me to the psychiatrist and is aware that I started hrt.
It's a shitty thing to hide this from your partner. Even if it's understandable at some level.
>male-brained
Meh, even that concept isn't as helpful as this board would have you believe.
Both trannies and normalfags have, ironically, a lot more rigid concepts of gender despite claiming to be progressive about it.

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Just your average liberal gay
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>>42330610
good to have chud tops to keep us safe
keep it up sir
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>>42330626
People have been crying out genocide long before october 7
dumb zoomer
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>>42330328
https://youtube.com/shorts/Pzuo2YRMV1Q?si=nGTyuZ1bO_Ri_W1V

https://youtu.be/Sd-RctabKMk?si=Qohaa80G4IlCdd93
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>>42330663
I really wouldn't mind if Texas was wiped off the map tbhdesu
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>>42330167
>The West is homophobic? What? It’s only in sandy ass shitholes like the Middle East and Africa do you see death penalties for gays. In places like Indonesia being gay was once seen as positive until Islam became the majority.
>Islam is a conquering religion. Christianity is more open to interpretation.
I feel like I might be the only 4channer who is both extremely anti-Islamophobia and pro-Israel. Everyone who says something pro-Israel here just ends up being a braindead chud, while I'm just pro-Israel for basic human rights reasons

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Chuds and tourists: What do you honestly hope to gain out of this board by making the same posts about how trannies are men or whatever? Do you honestly think you'll accomplish anything or are you just bored in-between classes at school?
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>>42334883
Uh huh, whatever you say princess
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>>42334892
I just miss pre-2011 4chan
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>>42334902
how long have you been here bro

t. 2005 poster
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>>42334902
Take your pills unc, reddit is that way
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>>42331798
Trannies are not men, they're MALES
and I like FEM MALES

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>want to transition
>start taking hrt
>freak out when effects become more noticeable
>detransition
>want to transition
>start taking hrt
>freak out when effects become more noticeable
>detransition
>want to transition
How do I stop this madness? I must just be retarded atp
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>>42332146
So was Kierkegaard's ultimate point that, since you'll give up an option no matter what you do, you shouldn't let regret be a deciding factor in what you decide?
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>>42334603
yes, life can only be understood backwards but must be lived forwards. if you just sit around trying to decide you will never know, you just have to pick something and see things through. in this case, if it was really a mistake and you regretted transitioning, so what? the alternative was you spend years wondering if you would be happier if you transitioned. you cant escape it because you are a finite being, knowing that in itself is reassuring
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>>42334666
Ah. That must kinda be what taking that leap of faith is about.
Thanks. Been a while since I've Kierkegaarded.
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>>42331023
are you sure you aren't just a trutrans enby?
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>>42331023
I'm married and a landlord so my plan is to just live inside for years and send my wife on errands until the girlshots and surgeons make me look ok
really if you're not happy with progress now, will you be happy when you inevitably break down and do it 5-10 years from now?

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i got lidocaine/epinepherine injections today for dental work and my dick is swollen and numb :( is this bad. i dont mean erect its SOFT and swollen

ive been on hrt for almost 3 years now and dont get erect but i swear it doesnt normally look like this.. anyone else have similar stories?


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