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• Help, advice, guidance on meds and dosages
• HRT related medical experiences and research
• Availability and pricing of medications
• Rational and scientific discussion

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>>42315087

lol I've been using clobetasol for years because I have a skin condition and my breasts are much larger than most trans women's. I've never applied it directly to my chest. Do the effects persist after using it? Do i have to avoid nipples?
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>>42315212
idrc if higher i'm just wondering how T so low
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>>42315217
yes they do persist after using

if u dont want ur nipples to be larger, dont apply it to them

>>42315228
ive seen people on monotherapy have T suppressed at liek 140. not all people require the 200-250
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>>42315238 based i'll quit worrying about it then. might snort the few remaining tablets i have just to increase E2, who knows
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I live in a tranny paradise blue state (USA), should I save up for an informed consent doctor or go DIY

I DONT WANT TO ENTER MY TWENTIES AS A MAN
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>>42314989
THEN TAKE YOUR PILLS
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>>42314994
>JUST
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>>42314989
TROON OUT
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>>42314989
big soph larp thread, she just posted a similar looking thread in /r9k/ except she didn't pretend to still be a pre-twenties repper in that one

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What's the dating market for manmoders like?
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>>42314657
nonexistent unless youre attractive
if you are then youll have women who pursue you because they think youre just a young looking cute guy
the problem is that actually entering a relationship requires you to disclose youre a tranny, so a relationship is effectively only possible with really open minded bi women that are legitimately attracted to you for who you are
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>>42314677
does he expect me to top?
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>>42314865
sometimes, yes
fine, can he at least jerk you off?
it's weird you are basically just an onahole
what if I showed you how to top me in a girly way?
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>>42314943
he can jork it but im not topping.
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>>42314657
idk I just larp as a gay cis man on estrogen and my boyfriend and other guys I've been with seems fine with it.

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>>42314448
ftm scat
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people are really jealous of G
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>>42313662
I meant make your own poon drawings
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>>42314866
oh i do all the time, there are just some old iconic ones that i want high quality versions of like the school shooter one and i wanna see what other people make
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>>42307914
Oh hey that’s my moot, he’s cool and rlly chill
>>42314768
Some, yeah

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Is 30 too old to come out of the closet as gay? I feel like I should just be alone forever at this point.
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>>42314590
wow gloves lost weight
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>>42313066
at this point everyone thinks youre gay or a pedophile anyway. might as well make it clear which.
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>>42313133
>desu
Cringe. You don't even know what that word means and use it improperly.
>>42313066
If that's you then there is no reason to come out because everyone can already tell you are a faggot
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>>42315304
>doesnt know the word filter
imagine being this new
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>>42314603
Never thought I'd say it but he looks good. I would

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be real, how cooked am i

just trying out wigs to see how i can end up looking like but i won’t make it past hon right
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u have a womans eyes but u need genioplasty and mandible contorouring
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Ngl you already have a pretty great base, you could improve your quality of your skin, trying to do your eyebrows and sleep better cause having eyebags never helps
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>>42314815
it's honestly difficult to say when your face is mostly covered by a cheap wig, your body is hidden by baggy clothes. post a better picture, then maybe itll be clearer

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Is it possible to develop a female self as a cis man?
I'm certain that being a cis man is a sinking ship for me, and that I will be sure to live an empty and depressing life as one, so I need to be able to make being a woman work if I ever want to be happy, even though I am a cis man.
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>>42313821
Maybe? I dunno, I've never not felt like this, so it's genuinely inconceivable to think I could ever feel any different
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>>42313682
Yeah I know. I get it. It’ll kinda always feel a bit like that I think. I’m coming up on 3 years hrt now and I don’t “feel like a woman” or anything really. But I don’t think I ever really “felt like a man” either I’d just made peace with the idea that that’s how it was and that’s how it had to be and there was nothing I could do. It was just “normal” to me.

But it’s not really true. It’s just kinda checking out and letting things happen to you and being passive which you know if you think about it is a much more conventionally female trait…

I dunno if I’m a man or a woman or whatever I don’t think it really matters. I like having a feminine body and presenting more feminine. I like feeling more comfortable being more open and accepting of my feminine traits. I like what E does to my body and how it makes me feel.

Estrogen + finally making a decision and doing something was big for me. It really felt like I was “me” and alive/present in a way I’d never really felt before and it was like this within a week or two for me. Idk I think I’d be pretty happy just being androgynous or agender so long as I was trending towards feminine. Just stopping masculinisation was a huge change. I probably still have like imposter syndrome or something and I’ll probably never pass or whatever. But it’s 100% worth for me. Don’t count yourself out just because you’ve over thought it 100 times I was paralysed by indecision for like a decade and now I feel so stupid about it lol.
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>>42313765
There's more to consider than just going bald or not. I'm genuinely afraid of the possibility of developing reverse dysphoria, even if there's no reason why I woul
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>>42313337
im an idiot arent i
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>>42312033
YWNBAW faggot

hot or gross? based or pathetic? you call it
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>>42314686
need
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>>42314002
you have to have and also appreciate in others a very specific type of autism to find this hot
to any other mind this will register as anything but hot
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>>42314002
LMAO
i love this, definitely based. i love it when he is freakyy.
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>>42314002
If my friend did that while I was eating him out I'd laugh my ass off
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>>42314002
>be you
>getting cracked from behind by an ftm with a strap-on
>the moment you climax they smack you on the face with a banana cream pie they'd been hiding behind your back the whole time

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This could be us happy together, but you really think you're too good for the guys on chasergen

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the order is from left to right obviously
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>>42310346
does she do makeup tutorials or anything on youtube
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>>42311001
why
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This stupid bitch calls for violence against trans people online. Shes like a more extreme version of Blaire White
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>>42315208
Who cares if you’re violent to someone online?
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>>42315243
I was about to insult you but realised you may be ESL.

She calls for real world violence against trans people using online forums/ social media.

Anyone have any advice on growing out your hair REALLY long? I'm hoping to have thigh length hair and I'm trying give myself a good start, already at shoulder length but I need more. Also if you have any products for increasing hair growth and length retention that'd be great too.
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>>42308915
Thanks, I'll only get trims when I need to
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>>42309039
you'd need to elaborate on the meaning behind feminine for a better assesment but having had long hair for quite a while now I can tell you nobody reasonable would draw such advanced conclusions from hair, it's just super normal and common these days. I assume you are yet to turn your hair feminine; beware, as you might be overestimating your abilities in making your hair appear they way you intend. It's all mostly learnable though. If you succeed partially at least, then you might be mistaken for a woman if someone only sees your hair or is damn near blind or a drunk retard. I myself might think you are a deeply closeted troon but that would be an unserious projection. I don't think anything deeply feminine is seen as compatible with gayness though, the standard labeling out of the two would be feminine traits -> troon, effeminated masculine traits -> fag. But there's a lot more reasonable possibilities which are neither of those.
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bump for good thread
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>>42312596
Alright
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Also which oils, shampoos and conditioner/leave in conditioners are the best btw?

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My gf like the smell of my cock when it's unwashed. Is this normal or is she a pervert?
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>>42314720
the clitoris and urethra are separate and also that doesn't always work
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>>42311977
yes she is and yes i love it too

as >>42312129 said, well...
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0407998102
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>>42314024
what does it mean if the idea of a little pee on his dick excites me...
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>>42314720
>your peehole (your clitoris)
extremely powerful post
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>>42312161
anything over 24 hours unwashed is perverted honestly

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This thread is dedicated to informing people genuinely questioning the legitimacy of being transgender, educating lurkers/posters of /lgbt/, as well as dismantling the idiocy, misinformation/disinformation and bad faith actors from transphobes (/pol/). Please refer to the following link when discovering a fallacy as well as properly linking to any of the following studies that most accurately counters flawed logic, or best supports the evidence and legitimacy for being transgender when questioned.

https://www.logicalfallacies.org/

pt 1/?
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>>42313956
if you want to legitimize an identity, you need you articulate a proper subject in the first place and get people to follow you along in this identification

>>42309726
>don’t upset the majority when you’re a minority; “pick-mes”
the people who do this are more like you than they are like me, trying to get others to see your gender-identity ideology
>towards integrating minorities in society
trans people are in the process of being declared domestic terrorists. what society? why is integration and assimilation the only two options? you have already decided we are too weak to not just do things ourselves. the jews are also a minority but have a high level of power simply thanks to a sensible collective effort at consolidating power. imagine if they instead wasting their time arguing with people about how they are human beings. they would remain completely subjected to the whims of a non-jewish population

ill tell you what, i am not even interested in making you agree with me in the current moment. i am writing this to you because you seem intelligent and your attention span is not fried. it is clear you are in the middle of some sort of cope because you cant accept that we have an administration of the most powerful country that is seriously considering invading its allies. i get it. eventually you will understand how pointless this really is and separatism will become more manifestly important
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>>42313984
>if they instead wasting
if they instead wasted*
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>>42313956
>why do you think people still want to kill us despite this?
Maybe I’m not seeing the greater picture on what exactly makes all of this fruitless to you. From my understanding or belief, it is that not only the vast majority are unaware of any of these studies to begin with, but that as the years rolled by, active campaigns have been launched with increasing intensity in not only pushing narratives for a tailor-specific governing body, but also the dissemination of disinformation as to solidify an iron-clad control on the populace via propaganda and media. And if I expanded further, I’d probably round it up to the will of the billionaire class. The thought by itself instills despair when you imagine the amount of resources, and connections they have access to accomplishing whatever goals they have. But what little else is a minority left to respond with? I’d imagined at the very minimum to just contributing in educating a society; the hope that a smarter populace is a natural inoculation against corruption.
>it is much better to secure concrete economic power
An option i’m convinced out of reach for any minority that has entered the crosshairs of the corrupt with power.
>it also does not legitimize gender as a reifiable entity as it ignores the historical variability of gender roles that someone could easily point to
I’m rather investing on more thorough research involving brain sex, particularly strictly involving the bodily disconnect that results in dysphoria; discarding ancillary aspects regarding role identities. Perhaps in a dying hope that it supersedes what Id categorize as non-important.
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>>42313984
>if you want to legitimize an identity, you need to articulate a proper subject to begin with and convince people to subscribe
Possibly something beyond my mental grasp if my current presentation of a narrative attempt and approach is going to be lackluster by your standards.
>the people who do this are more like you than they are like me, trying to get others to see your gender-identity ideology
I’ll take your word for it, though my anecdotal IRL interactions with said types have always been complete oblivion of the idea transgender.
>you have already decided we are too weak to not just do things ourselves. the jews are also a minority but have a high level of power simply thanks to a sensible collective effort at consolidating power.
I have not (or maybe even made subconscious effort to not) closely investigate the integration of post-holocaust jews. An examination too littered like a mine-field due to deranged conspiracy theorists inserting wild an inane stories. I’ve remained unpersuaded envisioning our community covertly slotting themselves in pressure point positions, regardless of many examples involving stealth integration, and critical career areas such as STEM fields. My background with how technology and methodology is evolving paints too bleak of a dream.
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>>42314012
>i am writing this to you because you seem intelligent and your attention span is not fried. it is clear you are in the middle of some sort of cope because you cant accept that we have an administration of the most powerful country that is seriously considering invading its allies
I make no concessions that I’m even above others who are anchored here, but more just raging against an inferno. It is as if what small act I can do given my limitations. Before I’d even constructed this thread, I’d accepted it was meaningless from the start, but that maybe the occasional input of those changed by its genesis could instill some comfort against the grand scheme of it all. To attempt at any rejection towards the complicit nature of a world spiraling each day.

Either way, engaging with your posts has been cathartic and I appreciate your sincerity, perspective and input.

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why are so many trannies obsessed with losing weight? i thought the skeleton was the thing you hated the most, why remove all the padding on it? i'm not being facetious it genuinely confuses me. all this talk of "i wish i had hips" "i wish i had boobs" "i wish i had an ass" and then you get really skinny which makes even a cis girl have small butt/boobs/hips lol
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>>42313519
>youre gay for having a bf
erm ok
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>>42313445
i want to have a waist for men to grip from the back
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>>42313445
Because my body is putting the fat in the worst, most dysphoria inducing places. Honestly, if I were trying to optimize for increasing dysphoria, I couldn't do much better. It's not a lot of fat, but it causes me so much anguish that I've been considering lipo. It's literally competing with FFS for access to my wallet.
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>>42313631
if you're female why do you have a male skeleton
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>>42313445
Becausd nothing make bitch bottoms feel feminine then being held down and made to feel powerless while you fuck the shit out of them. Being skinny and frail obviously helps here

My motto for romance as a trans woman is simply this

"I refuse to share my bussy with men who wouldn't politically defend it" - Kat Blaque
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>>42313356
GO OFF MY FUCKING QUEEEEEN!!!!
as trans women we need to have some self respect. Find yourself a man who is proud to be yours and will stand up for you. The security, that feeling it gives you- pure euphoria
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That's fair. I have nothing to add but that seems reasonable.
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>>42313207
but submitting my bussy to my oppressors is kinda hot
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>>42314822
Exactly! We need to start making sure these trashy guys feel the consequences, it's only then that they'll know things have to change.
>>42314835
Thanks, I think it's a good mantra. Hope you apply it to your own life assuming you're a trans woman.
>>42314854
Not really imo, that just sounds too degrading and I have to think about what type of guy even wants that dynamic, ugh.


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