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You will love each other edition
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QOTT: Do you feel seen?
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>don't lose your stats
what?
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manmoding isn't real, unironically just put effort
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brb respeccing my penis
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surely someone will take it this time
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>manmoding isnt real
i assure you people see me as a man

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Apparently, cis lesbians are the single most supportive group towards trans women (even troons themselves). Why, though? We're cringe.
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>>43157647
pity
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If you get off social media and go to stuff irl the irl cis gays and lesbians are actually pretty chill people
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>>43157769
this basically. they're surface level superficially supportive but that doesn't necessarily mean they see you as a "real woman" or whatever, and that's even if you pass. "supportive" does NOT mean open to dating. believe it or not, most lesbians don't like dick and most lesbians don't want to date trannies (note that this does not include predatory abusive bi chasers who see you as a man).

honestly the most genuinely supportive people I've been with irl have all been normie straight lib women, they're usually pretty chill and understanding about it where I am, ironically turbowoke queer women feel like the ones who other you more
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>>43157647
>source: asking famously truthful cis women
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>>43158383
I've noticed this on the other side as a ftm, the ones who treated me the most normally before I went stealth were normie straight men. Though I haven't had much experience with gay ones so can't comment on that. But the straight women were off put by me, lesbians and other variants of the rainbow (barring gay men) clearly saw me as a fairy rather than a man

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I have been doing DIY for a couple of years but recently I have been going through the NHS and they said they would give me the same levels of oestrogen through patches as I had been getting through injections. I had been doing 0.1-0.2 ml oestrogen enanthate intramuscularly, and they put me on two 'Evorel 100' patches twice a week, which are 100 micrograms every 24 hours and 6.4 mg in total per patch. The bloods will be done this month but I can already feel this new regimen is taking my levels so hard, it's like I just stopped taking oestrogen all together. Have they lowdosed me or is my skin unable to absorb oestrogen? I don't think I'm making it up because my sex drive dropped to nothing as if I had no hormones at all. Well I've doubled the amount I'm using to 4 twice weekly and maybe that can bring my levels back to normal, if all else fails I'm going back to im injections obviously but I want to keep doing patches until the blood test at least. Anyway what do you think? Should I stick to 2 patches even if it might not be enough to supress T and might kill me basically?
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>>43158766
Why even bother with that crap? More hassle worse feeling, and almost certainly worse level than injections. What's the point?
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>>43158816
I don't have to pay for it lol, I was just going on it for a month to check if it worked. Obviously the price isn't the issue for buying oestrogen but they keep opening every parcel when I buy them and I'm scared one day they will start stealing my vials and leaving me without a backup. So getting on this will give me the backup. Also I wouldn't able to get a blood test if I didn't do this shit.
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>>43158910
I guess it would make sense to do injections and stockpile the patches just in case
>wouldn't able to get a blood test
Can't you just go to a lab and pay yourself?
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>>43158941
I'm on the dole and labs are like £100 which is my entire budget for HRT for the whole year. I don't really need it, when I've been doing DIY I've had great results guaging just on vibes, I just want blood test to make sure nothings super wrong like that I don't have high DHT levels. Also being on the NHS bridging means I can just say I have started prog (even though I haven't) and they have to give it to me.

Also my friend is telling me that apparently they should be giving me an anti-androgen at the levels they have given me, which they haven't because I am monotherapy. So they probably are dosing me in such a way that my T would come back. Ugh.

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i havent had sex since i started transitioning, but even before that, it was pretty rare. the only features anybody used to like about me were my dick and balls.

i felt used for sex in the past, but now i'm completely useless. ugly eunuch who nobody wants. not even attractive enough to get attention from chasers online.
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Jesus Christ said he's crashing the stock market on Monday, because Trump's behavior to transgender women.

Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.” (Matthew 19:11-12 NIV)

In Isaiah 56:3-5, God offers protection and inclusion to eunuchs who keep His covenant, promising them an "everlasting name" and a place in His house, which is "better than sons and daughters." This promise reverses their previous exclusion from the assembly, ensuring they are not forgotten by God.
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>>43158663
uh thanks?
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>>43158769
You're welcome
No one bases someone one looks, only toxic narcissistic people do this and they end up with nothing later in life.
People who buy into the looking good, plastic surgery end up with medical problems and mental health problems.
The trend in the USA is called out this toxic environment, so Blair White maybe the new bud light of the transgender community.
One group rises one group lowers a cycle of life. It's why you should just be yourself
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>>43158929
that's a healthy way to look at it, but it's hard to square it when i have to be the one constantly reminding myself of that. hard to not internalize it when ive always been rejected by others because im too boring and quiet and ugly. i can say "it's ok i'm this way" but it doesnt make me any less alone.
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>>43158663
Happy Easter Nona!

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Im being brainwashed by my room and Grok into being a sissy >-<
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>>43158662
this is my trollsona her name is maisie fudova
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>>43158662
add some plants sissy boy
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>>43158897
trvke get hanging plants and lace curtains
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>>43158897
d-do i get just plants or also with flowers i feel like plants are more fembrained but plants+pink flowers is more sissifying. i've pink cotton curtains pic rel. im kinda happe with my room as is its very sissifying tho im sure it can be made cuter or more girly for sure.
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I routinely have roleplays with AI where an older, taller tranny transitions me and calls me cute and a girl. I have done this in lieu of talking to my online friends. Please send help.

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I don't find making fun of trans women funny in the slightest, it's quite distasteful seeing all that is happening around the world right now. But making fun of pooners is my favourite past time, they are so comically entitled and in-group brained it's soooo funny to watch, and then they cry oppression every time someone calls them out for their cringey behavior and have their cake and eat it too attitude. Everything from so many of them being lesboys and femboys, and us just having to uncritically coddle their hypocrisy, to the appalling amount of FTM detransitioners and the TERF talking points they use to put down trans women, I almost feel bad for trve pooners for having their community completely taken over by retards.
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>>43152895
because then theyd be actually difficult to do, theres probably better ones but they don't go viral because most retards aren't coordinated enough to do them
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>>43152895
short answer: white people
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>>43152901
Why would cis people care about this and why would a pooner (unless extremely self hating) make a thread like this?
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Most transmen are frauds who use their afabness or trans status as a weapon to get away with saying stupid shit
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>>43158960
you would too if you could

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Told a tranny I went on a date with that I only voted for Trump because I am a single-issue voter ("I enjoy seeing communiggers suffer"), but that's not true. I don't give a fuck about open faggots getting stomped. Any way, we're going on a second date next Friday
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wait a minute are you trying to troll me again
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>>43158400
i like how guys look at me stun locked when i tell them they're stupid for voting trump. like "you're not a bad person for voting for him, you're just really dumb, look at how our economy is failing". they're really into talking politics until i say that
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>>43158400
Wow politics so soon, I can really care less who is president, it's always changing.
Let's talk about me me me me

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(from @tsvenusrosie on xitter)

chasers tag urself i wanna learn. my chaser i think is just bi inclusive and anal fetishizer
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>>43158968
i just want a gf and trans women are women
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>>43158968
i was the egg/repper until 2 months ago :^)
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>>43159008
this is so kind :)

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could trannies do the bending over trend that has taken over xitter?
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>>43158405
no, but I'm working on getting that flexible
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>>43158405
yes absolutely ;)
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>>43158780
thats not even flexible its just leaning over forwards

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Now, I know you think you know what's going on; you've been spun a narrative, fed a whole world, with layers and dragons, but, honey, I'm here to correct your vision.

No matter WHAT anyone tells you - there are NO homosexual transsexuals on 4chan. None. Promise. Pinkie swear. Cherry on top, cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye.
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Offer me your most detailed thoughts on men who are "gay 4 pay".

Roman Todd
Skyy Knox
Ricky Larkin
Bryce Beckett
Johnny Donovan
Markus Kage
Santino Benamati
Aspen Solomon
Benjamin Blue
Dominic Pacifico
Marcus McNeill
Jesse Stone
Angel Rivera

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>>43153625
What's stopping you from living in one? Society would be better off if people like you just fucked off to the woods and killed each other.
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>>43150553
i don't want sex with them, i just wanna fap to them
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>>43154072
Ok
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>>43153665
why didn't I think of this before
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>>43150474
crickets

Does anyone else struggle w rly bad internalized misogyny?

But like its only directed towards myself?? Because i see other women just as good or even better than men

but when it comes to myself i just can't help but feel so much shame around anything feminine and idk why

like being weaker and having a softer voice just makes me feel inferior in a way, even though i know that doesn't actually make any sense?!

and its not only just body stuff, like im litteraly to emberassed to share some of my hobbies because i feel like they are to feminine

Even something litteraly as dumb as my sexuality makes me feel humiliated sometimes :( which has already caused some struggles in past relationships, bc i hate feeling like my body was made for a guys pleasure
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>>43157927
>Im 23, but i never went trough female puberty. I responded really well to Testosterone so I can genuinely make it (picrel is pre n post T)
All I see is 4 pictures of the same attractive woman? If that's you, and not just a template person, sorry.
>So, you probably actually are a woman,
I don't have gender dysphoria, though. And I don't understand what gender really even is. And even if I did, and I had to become a "woman" to be happy, I don't want to dissapoint my dad and family. It also would hurt my male ego(what I figure you're feeling) which I'm growing resentful of(idc if I woke up a woman tomorrow.) And my regular ego which doesn't want to fuck up everything and built my life around something as dumb as gender. Think Kasuma from Konosuba. He's mostly sensible. And even if it was ethical, I look like a short male from puberty. I would need so much surgury to pass. I have very wide shoulders. I'm a garbage can with legs. It's just not the hand I was dealt.
>but you have this leftover shit from being raised that it was wrong to be feminine as a male.
I definitely have that. But, it's not entirely my fault. When I say something conservatives hate, they call me not a man. When I say something feminists hate, they call me not a man. I'm 26 and the conditioning to hate "unmanly" men hasn't stopped and I see it everywhere. The only way to "win" is to be a faggot, so, not a man.
> Atleast for myself I hate being referred to as a woman
I'm guessing because it makes you personally feel "weak" for some reason that's definitely not misandry for emasculated men?
>I wasn't taught to envy men
You were. Every amab was. There's a long time that you learn about the world before you're 13.
>was thought to be ashamed of my female features and that I should hide them as much as possible.
Because you were never a masculine man. You're going to be envious of masculine men when you were shamed for being not masculine for so long.
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You know? Just forget the Kasuma thing. The important part is that Idc what gender I am and strive for gender equality and the fall of patriarchal restrictions on people via gender roles. All people.
>Yesss!! like i would love to have a strong deep voice that gets everyones attention and is like all gravely in the morning, aswell as strong veins arms. Like I would basically wanna be the type of guy im attracted to
But you also don't because if you were you'd be dysphoric? If you woke up the next day like that, you wouldn't feel any issues with it?
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>>43158567
Its me :/

Also so sorry!
"So, you probably actually are a woman"
"And you have this leftover shit from being raised that it was wrong to be feminine as a male"

Where you're quistions i just forgot to > them bc 4chsn is still a lil complicated

And i didn't get raised to envy men, my parents where already happy I mostly kept my mouth shut abt some things lol, like i was already self harming my genitalia at 7. The envy was only something that grew when I started to transition, and it got rly bad last summer n has been a constant thought since

And idk if its that I hate being called female bc it makes me weel, but idk it feels like being caller something shamefull like a second rank citizen yk

And i do still hate feminine men, men in general are whats wrong w the world
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>>43158567
And girl if your happier as a woman than transition, no1 got better from repping. And the fear of passing shouldn't hold you back

You're allowed to be yourself!! :)
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>>43158707
>>43158707
> But you also don't because if you were you'd be dysphoric? If you woke up the next day like that, you wouldn't feel any issues with it?

I honestly dk, part of what kept me on T was that maybe if I push Trough i would be okay w it. Bc maybe I was just scared of being visable trans

Like ideally I would just wanna be a cute masculine straight guy, who's not dysphoric over it

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I will learn to accept that I am a cis man
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Today's music rec: Don't Trust Mirrors by kelly moran
https://kellymoran.bandcamp.com/album/dont-trust-mirrors

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love edition
>q1 have you ever been in love with anyone? are you in love now? have a crush on someone?
>q2 are you single?
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>>43155379
>q1
I used to get crushes, but the feeling that they would never like me back got so painful that eventually I started shutting down any thoughts about love or crushes. Anytime I was around a crush I'd completely put that thought out of my mind to cope. Now I'm some weird fag with mysterious sexual hangups and a life that I keep secret from 99.999999999% of people. Would not recommend.
>q2
no doy
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>>43155379
no x3, i've always felt weird dating and uncomfortable with sex even before I had a more specific idea as to why
been single for so long i don't care all that much but recently feeling more strongly a bf would be nice
>>43156616
is it really that bad? i'm taking oral min+fin, most of the ppl online don't make it seem like it's bad in the ranges prescribed for hair loss
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How many of you are GAY but DONT take hrt?
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>>43156484
No, that's the point. But topical minoxidil is over the counter so you can get it for like twenty bucks in a store without bothering with a doctor.
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idk man life just isn't worth living

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hey so, I finally got my own place after so long living with my parents
so I thought I'd start using grindr, any tips and tricks? I've never really used hookup apps before. Any etiquette I should know? What should I have on my profile? I'm top only and wanna meet twinks/femboys/trannies
I'm so nervous about all this. I'm decently fit but idk if I should know anything in special before i create one...


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