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itt u post voice but also try to be funny
if ur not funny how can you be girl?
https://voca.ro/13YPapKDtEsg

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after browsing this board for like 4 years i get the feeling you don't believe what you say.
half of the people here will tell you outright that the reason they transitioned or "trooned out" is because they failed as guys or saw being socialised as a males as a never ending ratrace into misery (or they were just incel losers), and the other half say they trooned out becuse there is an uderlying fact about the way their brain/endocrine system work tha makes them a "female in a male's body".
in the end i am confused about the nature of the whole thing, especialy with a hundred of other factors that could go into the rise of "trans identifying people" in the last 10 years.
for me its an easy thing and i will wholeheartedly admit that being a fag is a way simpler mater of identification and explaining (even if my parents no longer talk to me).
so if you don't know what a trans person is, how can ppl trust you to give the measures by which they should aid you, protect you, and most of all, know weather you are what you claim you are?

maybe im just full-on retarded and im making a mess out of something way simpler than what make out of it, but i would like your opinion on the matter since you are the trans ppl in question
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>>42044722
>but you still shouldn't be treated a subhuman if you don't, imo

Did I say that? No, I didn't.
And no, it's not being treated "a subhuman" by being called "sir".
I'm sorry, but "be the change you want to see" is still true.

>the indignity of trans women who don't make the efforts you discuss is for sure futile in this day and age

It's not futile. Some younger tgirl will see this and keep it in her mind.
We used to have mentorship in lgbt groups. Now it's all gone in favor of hysteric screeching and endless demands + crabs in the bucket mentality.

You mention history but you don't seem to take the lesson from it.
The gay guys got what they wanted by also being reasonable and policing the screeching.


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>>42043491
It's simple
HSTS = bitchy gay men who think they come across as women, or grumpy lesbians who think they come across as men
Intershit = actual fucked up natural development
AGP/AAP = every other tranny
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>>42044886

you totally misinterpreted me.

>but you still shouldn't be treated a subhuman if you don't, imo

this was arguing against some of the stuff OP implied:

>how can ppl trust you to give the measures by which they should aid you, protect you, and most of all, know weather you are what you claim you are?

>the indignity of trans women who don't make the efforts you discuss is for sure futile in this day and age

this was aimed at trans women who do not take steps to look normatively feminine. i agree that it is unreasonable, given certain societal conditions, to expect to be called "miss" if you do not do certain things for your appearance etc.

"policing the screeching" is booing sylvia rivera, who was part of the first real transgender community? i think that you don't understand that "policing" is futile. you're in the boat with every other trans woman, whether or not you agree with how they act as trans women.
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>>42045069
>you totally misinterpreted me

If that's the case, I apologize.

>"policing the screeching" is booing sylvia rivera

And?
I'm not American and I don't subscribe to American shibboleths and most definitely don't have the same heroes, either as a trans woman or as a wife or as any other role in this world.

I also disagree Rivera was part of the first "real" transgender community. Quite a few existed prior to that. Just not in Puritan USA.
The Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries was a gigacommie short-lived operation. I don't feel represented by that at all. Quite the opposite, it's straight up repulsive.

Also, we are discussing 2025, not 1970.
We can debate some of the actions and their appropriateness at the time (and we likely agree for the most part). But today is not 1970. We don't have gangs running around trying to beat up trannies.

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I know this thread is gonna get a flood of height luckshits but idc at this point.
To me it's a unniversal trans experience to look out on a sea of people and realize that you are taller than every woman there. Also being short is like the one thing that no one can ever change. ugly? get ffs. big ribcage? remodel it. big shoulders? clavicle reduction. etc. However you can do nothing about your height. you might shrink an inch if you're lucky. but after that. thats it. you're done. (yes turkish leg shortening surgery or whatever exists but lets be reasonable. no one reading this thread is getting that). also, i have no evidence for this, but i have NEVER met a non passoid troon. i would rather be a 5'6 HON that a 6'2 passoid ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. 5'6 hons are treated more as woman than ANY 6'2 "passoid". also i have never met a TRUE gigapassoid above like 5'8. if you know any PLEASE show me. but i have never seen it personally. and short troons omg they are so fucking entitled. they know deep down. that they have something you will NEVER have. you might facemog them or whatever. but a man will never pick YOU up like they will. and they fucking know it. they know it better than ANYONE. Oh and even if you pass but you're tall chasers are just gonna see you as twinks nona. I DONT MAKE THE RULES.god. look at them. being SHORTER than women CONSISTENTLY???? i see a woman taller than me about once a day and it always makes me so happy. but THEM??? they get to experience it COUNTLESS times every. single. day. god i pass OK but what i wouldn't do to be short. what i wouldn't do to be able to be HELD. jesus. also all tall trans woman are extremely nice. like i have never met a BAD heighthon.
t. 5'9 semi-passoid bitterhon
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im 5'4 but have brutal whr and shoulder breadth. im gonna wait until im like 1-2 years into hrt and tehn start working out and gaining weight and such i feel like its kind of a waste so early into my transition (3 months)
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>>42041982
yesterday i visited a friend while boymoding, her sister thought i was a butch lesbian, so yeah if she thought i was a woman, ppl with 5'11 arent having it thaaat bad
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I'm 5'6 and average foid in my country is 5'4. I'm still taller than them. They have smaller faces/heads. You can clock me by skull size.
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>>42041610
oki <;
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>>42043488
>chat am i cooked
no, that's hot

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Qott: How are your finals going? and if your not in college what're you doing for Christmas?

Most 4chan posters like vidya, anime, manga, TV, film, music, comics, cartoons, weeb shit, etc. as interests and hobbies.

Why not specify what kind or your favorites in your post? It says more about you and will likely net you better adds than just posting "I like /v/, /a/, /tv/, /mu/, /co/, /jp/, etc." in the bio.


>ASL (biological sex, or gender)
>letter(s)
>primary interest
>other interests and hobbies
>looking for
>not looking for
>(free space)
>tag
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>>42041488
Generative AI wouldn't bother me half as much if the final product was polished to fix errors. Instead I think we're just going to be using more LLM generated code with gigantic security flaws and video/images that have random nonsensical elements which people will gloss over, because it all has no deeper meaning and nobody can be fucked curating high effort shit from the new ability to pump out low effort slop 100 times an hour.
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>>42043063
waow, fancy that ... I might be like a genius maybe, right??
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>>42043130
it's not for annoying... ??? then what am I even doing here?!
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>>42043648
your funny

Hypervocal minority award
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>>42045057
>everything is free everywhere
no it isn't? what are you talking about?make more sense dumb faggot
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>>42044966
organize against... an evil video game?
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>>42045137
why are you on the faggot board if you're not a faggot. boggles the mind
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>>42045112
This, even liberal minded normies didn't really care that some lefties on twitter didn't want you to play the game.
Time would've been better spent on just mocking the game.
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This is a decent game. My transbian ex loved it. The IP owner is a chud but the devs who made it are wokies.

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how the FUCK do i cope with being dumped by my troon ex? i introduced her to my friends and family.
now everyone i know thinks im a FAGGOT and i dont even have a gf to show for it.
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>Guy talks about his relationship with a woman falling out
>Gincels instantly flock to the post to see him at a low point
>They all try to convince him to fuck them with the "girls are lame, just try boys lol" trick that never works.

So nothing ever changes huh, as for OP just find a new gf, cis or trans desu. It sounds like your old group sucked & your hurting but you'd be way more fucked up mentally if you tried to hide it. There are plenty of good folks to meet and you'll move on.
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>>42044778
Happens all the time, idk where the idea that keeping us around is simple comes from. We ghost and cut people off too & quite often.
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>>42042645
>>42042605
>>42042404
>>42042262
>>42042249
>"Fucking a passing tgirl is still gay anyway so you might as well just get with us, haha...unless?"
Cope, he's not gonna fuck you
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>>42044858
cope, his dick is already in my ass!!!!!
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>>42042319
yeah
even low Kinsey bisexuality needs to be a secret for when you go after boyhole and gock

Reminder: This gen is for cis females with gender dysphoria. This is not a trans man gen. All posts that are considered off-topic should be directed to other generals, threads or boards.
Keep the discussion exclusively about female repressing or fuck off.
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>>42044334
You don't talk to enough of cis women, I guess. Most of them go "but it's so gross, why would one ruin their voice" or "what about your boobs, they're so great, you should show them and allow me to squish and stare why would you reject such perfect tits" or "isn't this sexist and ruining our sisterhood?"
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>>42044380
Some cis women are like that, yeah. But even they understand deep down that life would be easier if they're males. So maybe it's all just them coping.
Cis women understand trans mens biological and social issues, mtfs don't.
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>>42044472
>life would be easier if they're males.
Depends on the country. Plus most women are straight, so being a woman is better for them than being a gay man. So it really depends, seems like you're talking about very specific circumstances.
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>>42044720
Gay men are opressed because of their sexuality, but not because of their sex.
Western women are having it better than rest of us, but they're still women.. Women who have to deal with female biology, and all the disadvantages it brings in society.
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>>42045117
But it also has advantages. Of course that doesn't really apply to us, so maybe it's not worth to mention XD

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Do you support Pup Rights?
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>>42045218
what exactly are the rights that pups want?
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>>42045244
The right to be a pup free of persecution.
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>>42045274
what persecution?

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do reppers truly think that mtfs are women? do femreppers truly think that ftms are men?

my theory is that having dysphoria tends to erode your judgement on what a man/woman is, and unfortunately the moment you fully accept the trans people as the gender they identify with, you have lost the dysphoria battle and your soul and future is stolen by the evil tranny movement

here is the next most logical course of action: once you realise that you are a repper, you must to routinely call trannies out for being fakes protect yourself from their lies and corruption from clouding your judgment
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> do femreppers truly think that ftms are men?
Depends, there are ftms I perceive as women and some that pass well enough to actually make me view them as too masculine to refer to as women if it makes sense.
I view MtFs as AGP men and never as women though
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>>42041356
I have this exact same view.
T. Another femrepper
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Bump
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>>42037329
>>42038701
>>42041356
>>42041425
Fem"reppers" almost always being fembrained TERFs is laughably ironic
>>42039235
Trve
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>>42044733
I thought terfs are men!

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Why are cissies allowed to be blatantly AGP but not trannies?
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>>42044846
Honestly I think AGP is real (see: jeeps literally peeing themselves to simulate peeing with female anatomy) but overdiagnosed by Internet amateurs.
But it's hard to ignore that everyone who tries to categorize trans women inevitably reinvents Blanchardism. There's probably *something* to the typology.
>>42044869
You however are misinterpreting Blanchard's claims.
Pretty much we need a way to deal with the sex pest troon problem. Beyond that I literally do not care if someone trooned because wearing panties got them hard or whatever.
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>>42044869
Blanchard thinks TERFs are retards and that being AGP is harmess
I'll take the free SRS tho
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>>42044744
Wearing a womanface is not presenting "identically"
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>>42044542
Afabs can't have AGP.
We can only be AAP.
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Women: aww this looks cute on me
Transwomen: OOOOOHHHH THAT HITS THE SPOT, IT'S ALMOST ENOUGH TO GOOOOOOOOOOON

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Christmas Edition
previous: >>41869583

Goal of the thread: Talk to a friend or loved one, or in a pinch, feel free to socialize with us. Talking to people is a human need, even to those of us who exhaust quickly from communication.
Daily goals can be repeated. Remember to keep score, it can only go up!

>What is this thread for?
Getting better is hard, and sucks. A lot. It does not get easier doing it alone.
Share resources and experiences with combating depression, anxiety, personal issues, achieving or maintaining a healthy weight, etc.
>Why is this thread /lgbt/?
Struggles with mental and physical health are an indisputable part of /lgbt/ life, be it from dysphoria, social pressure, heartbreak, or just unfortunate lifestyle choices.
>Notes to consider:
Please be civil. Shame is your greatest enemy in fighting urges of self abuse (be it sh, drugs, or just self deprecation). Relapsing into bad and unhealthy habits is to be expected, the goal is to increase the average amount of time it takes between relapses. Any improvement is a victory no matter how small. Your worth and right to get better are non-negotiable. And most importantly:
WE ARE NOT THERAPISTS, WE DON'T REPLACE MEDICATION
>Note on advice

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>>42044782
>WE ARE NOT THERAPISTS, WE DON'T REPLACE MEDICATION
Damn this thread cringe as hell
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Apart from the GOTT, here are a few things you can do _today_ to make your life a little better. Keep a diary and write down every success. Some you may do as often as you please, but write down each one individually! You deserve it! Do not feel pressured to do all, but feel free to select one or two!

- prepare 1 load of laundry
- do 1 load of laundry
- read one page of a book or manga you have been putting off
- cook yourself a meal, or try learn to make a simple dish
- eat a meal
- pick up items on the floor for 5 minutes
- make your bed
- if you have a bad habit, try making it more inconvenient (putting things in hard to reach places for example)
- do the dishes for 3 minutes
- write down one thing you are grateful for (from abstract things to something like a cute image you saw)
- Clean up 1m^2 of your floor (~40x40 in)
- Open your window for 10-20 minutes
- try to exercise for 5 min (walk outdoors, walking stairs, whatever you wish)

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Please check last thread for responses, since the last thread died pretty quickly after my last few replies.
Still, some posts from last thread remain unreplied to, I'm working on that right now.
Thanks everyone for your patience.
Also, Dec 16 marked the 3 year /sig/ anniversary! >>28777091 was the first, for those curious.
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>>42044832
Panty here. Thanks for the suggestion on the Linux emulator, siganon! I’m going to look into that.

Yesterday I managed to do some cooking. This is pearl couscous, sliced zucchini, spinach, sun dried tomatoes, chickpeas, onion and garlic cooked in vegetable broth. It was good, and I will definitely make it again, but I think I’ll add corn and white beans as well. Maybe a potato sliced like the zucchini.

>Pooner (27) comes home from class and sits me (27) down for a conversation
> Looks guilty af
> "I've been talking to the school therapist for abit now and she's encouraged me to bring this up finally."
> "I've been super horny cuz of T all the time lately and really want to get fucked on a consistent basis, physical intimacy is important for me and sex toys don't hit the same"
>"I've never even gotten to eat pussy either :/"
> "I know asking this will hurt you, but can we open up the relationship?"
> Also complains about how he feels he's failing the relationship because he doesn't spend time with me and misses me
> Sit there stupefied
> Had been up there for 3 months straight just a month prior to this
> 3rd anniversary had just passed exactly a week ago
> Not even married 2 months

Prior to coupling we had discussed whether or not to be open and the conditions we'd be comfortable practing a non-mono lifestyle. Both agreed it it would be in a long term stable and cozy cohabitation environment.

I was the khhv before we finally met irl but his proposition sounded like something a teenager going to college would say.

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>>42044952
I'm sure you'll be much happier in a transbian polycule
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>>42044952
I feel like opening the relationship means spending even less time with you, no?
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you can't give AFaBs testosterone and expect them to use it constructively

just hot plaps in the hot hole all the time
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Get fucked. Afabs have no souls obv, shouldve known better.
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>>42045029

Think I'd blow my brains out in a polycule, every other relationship I've been in before, I've always been lacking in some capacity for my partners, and now make insecurities about not being enough for people. Also don't have the emotional bandwidth for additional partners

>>42045062
Pointed that out to him a few days after and he agreed that it would make it harder for us to spend time together.

>>42045093
>>42045104
Based truth nukes

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I want a cure to /tttt/ induced tranny thoughts
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>>42043347
Stop thinking about gender
Thinking about gender dysphoria causes gender dysphoria
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>>42044166
I want to stop having tranny thoughts. This does not accomplish that.
>>42044295
Easier said than done
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>>42044262
ive heard since the start of 2025 peoples FAA medicals are getting denied for gender dysphoria when this wasn’t previously the case…so idk

ill probably never be able to fly…
woaw, not only will i never be woman…
ill never be a pilot either…
iwnbap
iwnbaw
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>>42044385
YES it DOES
just WORK THE PROBLEM

You have to AVIATE
Then NAVIGATE
Then COMMUNICATE
Through your gender dysphoria
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>>42043347
Please I need to be fixed and feel like I’m vaguely attractive.

QOTT
What does your goal look like and what steps are taking to achieve it?

>Reminder: This gen is for cis homosexual females (lesbians). All trans-related or bisexual posts are considered off-topic and should be directed to other generals or threads. No discussion of male (XY) anatomy.

Discords:
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>>42042999
>no, I went to the Doctor and had them do it
>I swear!
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Man I REALLY wanna fuck a hot soldier. Where does one go to meet them?
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>>42043916
https://youtu.be/rvozGK0Ko0s?si=jKBhLFc1CxQGF_1I
Letting Go, is always the hardest part
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>>42039565
>And then sometimes we fuck. Surely that wouldn't lead to a destroyed friendship and awful vibes right?
I just don't see how a fuckbuddy relationship between two women could work without one or both catching feelers. it barely ever works between faggots or straggots. with lesbians I think it's not even a 10% chance it lasts.
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>>42041998
why do so many bishits have cluster b disorders? like what's the scientific explanation

Any l4d2 workshop campaign recommendations?
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>>42044567
Uninstalling the game and installing gmod
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>>42044567
bazinga chaos


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