>Take dutasteride for balding>It decreases DHT by 90% >Immediately feel better, more efficient at work, less anxious, no brainfog, long-term depression goes away the day after, no longer get random panic attacks.Would i benefit from troonpills? I don't want to be a woman but i think my brain might be more attuned to low T.I'll ask a doctor. Could be unrelated terminal lucidity and i'm just a walking corpse rn.
>>42379101I got on fin while already considering transitioning to prevent further hair loss (and have actually gotten pretty significant regrowth) and mental difference was so pronounced I thought it might be placebo at first, but I think it actually just was the dht drop fr. I've also gotten to the point where I've gotten mild gyno from it and it feels like the most amazing shit ever and I'm making the moves I need to get on estrogen in the near future. My advice? Give yourself time to assess things, maybe talk to a therapist if you aren't already seeing one. I can't say for sure without knowing you, how you feel about your body and your personal history and such but I think a good filter question is this: how do you feel about male aging? When you see the older men around you or in your family how does picturing yourself becoming like them make you feel?
>>42379130The only way i'd be cool with "male aging" is if i had a career or a passion that consumes me wholly and leaves me no room to ever ponder my own physicality at all. I'm talking autistic laserfocus devotion to the point i could keep going at it ceaselessly day in day out and my mind was 90% occupied and not idle.Otherwise that'd make me pretty sad but i mean. Who wants to age? Not like women keep looking that good into their fifties anyway. Men mostly age like shit because they're expected to do all the worst jobs, most of them drink and smoke to cope with stress etc.Look at how zoomers are aging vs even the millenials.I dont know how much is that hate of aging vs hate of aging as a man.
>>42379130how long did it take for you to regrow hair on fin?
>>42379183women look like shit because of menopause and childbirth though, not aging. thats why they look so deflated whereas men keep it together even if they are hairy and bald.
>>42379183I mean if you have to conceive a world where you'd basically have to be distracted constantly to cope with being an old man because the very idea of it is distressing... Yeah I would consider looking into this stuff. Nobody wants to get old, sure, our bodies will always eventually change in ways that feel incongruent with what we once were but what you're describing sounds like it could be dysphoria. Again, I would highly recommend talking to a professional about this stuff if you're unsure. For me, the idea of getting older as a man was so distressful that conceptualizing the future and making plans felt so futile. I would never say I had real suicidal ideation in the sense I had a plan to take my own life but thinking about "me in the future" would invariably lead to just... Nothing. A black void. Since I've accepted that I'm trans and taken steps to ensure I can live that life I can actually "envision" that future me and even if she's not perfect or living the happiest life it's changed my ability to fight for myself and plan ahead drastically>>423792343-6 months for minor results, about a year for what I consider to be a noticeable and drastic change in thickness. My hairlines stick a little scuffed but it kinda always was. I kinda didn't think it was working for a while but the before and after is insane. Obviously as with any hormonal medicine, ymmv. For gyno I started feeling chest tenderness ~8 months I'd say. Started out as just very slight nip puffs but now there's some nice satisfying fullness to them but still small enough that nobody thinks I have boobs
How do you integrate AGP in daily life?
>>42379034It's that, the logistics, I live in squalor, I always was unable to decide whether I would feel safer at a strange man's home where he could poison or knife me or outing myself at a hotel with him or something. Also being very slow to give out my first name or phone number because my schizo feelings are correct and people I know are always stalking me right when I least want them to, and obviously this is a very extreme sexuality to have people finding out about you as a hetero-presenting sexually withdrawn guy. I have a male image to uphold although I am not very socially popular, I have never openly crossdressed in public within 100 miles of fhometown, I only engage in things like this >>42378273 when it would not be a risk to be caught. Also I'm not big on catching a variety of STDs which people with normal sociosexual development have already caught and cleared in their teens but still carry latent in the bodies while I am like the Sentinelese in terms of communicable diseases.
>>42379067It's just some horny fun for me. Also for some men who fucked me in the past and now sometimes my gf.>>42379156I do it under my normal clothes, I've actually done it once or twice when my friends were around and at work a few times. The risk of getting caught adds to excitement. Also did it on a couple dates with my gf at her request.
>>42379375Doing it around friends is the best feeling for that interpersonal AGP boost.I've done it playing in tennis clubs, hiking, and going to college, I guess.For me it's always with bras and I have experimented with wearing lighter and lighter t shirts and intentionally sitting in front of people because that adds to the risk of being seen or at least suspected.
>>42378384Did you get SRS?
>>42379440Nope
Reminder that virtually no trannies were like this as little boys. You were never feminine. Jacking off to the thought of being feminized and wearing girls clothes did not make you feminine. Effortlessly feminine gays are everything you wish you were, but can never be.
>>42374079Troll post, but here's a serious response.>Reminder that virtually no trannies were like this as little boys.Of course not. Look at the floor mat. This is some kind of event where parents have their kids dance like this. It's literally grooming, lol. You think that kid learned those moves on their own? (It's still grooming if they were a cis girl too)When I was a kid:>when I was 4, asked my parents to let me paint my nails like my older sisters were doing (they let me, but got worried when I played outside with the polish on)>never once stood up to pee, felt gross to even consider trying let alone do it>cried a lot when I was 6 and my mother told me I'd never be able to be pregnant>got in trouble in 1st grade for holding hands with a boy in my class>sat cross legged for years until one of my friends told me it was weird>watched Disney princess movies in secret so my family wouldn't know I liked them>almost used scissors to try modifying my genitals in 6th or 7th grade because how they looked and were developing just felt wrong on a very visceral level>despised getting my hair cut but still did it so I wouldn't get called a fag or a scene guy>envied the people who did flags in band, but never did it myself because the only guys who did were flamers and everyone called them fagsComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42378251It's fucked nona like my family was very abusive but no one stopped me from crossing my legs (someone bullied me in middle school about it but I was like "are u retarded" lmao) I loved watching Disney and Ghibli stuff with my sister (we also watched Barbie movies) and almost always had long hair (my mum did pester me to get it cut and I got bullied for it a lot)I also thought trannies were like that until idk 2014/2015? Transed 2017.
>>42378342I remember when I was younger watching that Jeremy Springer episode where John 50s came out as women to their wives as women on stage to the mockery of the audience. I remember thinking "what's the point if you just look like a man anyways?" I suppose I still think that way lol.
>>42374079>"Reminder that virtually no trannies were like this as little boys"acting like that was basically an open invitation to being bullied when I was a kid but you're right OP I should have just let myself get bullied even more than I already was
>>42374079This isn't feminine. It's masculine, just not traditionally masculine. It's as male as drinking light beers, watching football, and beating your wife. Dipshit "women and queers" style lgbts don't understand that a faggot is a type of man, just an oppressed one.
QOTT: which ex-men would you fuck?
>>42377635>The official height of the Marvel Comics character Wolverine is 5'3"oh my god... yikes..
what were the early signs that you were trans that you ignored for way too longfor me it's>really, really liked yuri at age 10>pretended to be a girl online at age 12>RPed as a bunch of girl characters on f-list at age 18>got anxious about my body getting hairier and my butt not being cute at age 23>start following a ton of trans youtubers at age 25>listen to a fuckton of music trans girls love at age 26>tell myself that it's impossible I could ever be a girl and that I'm happy just the way I am at 30>become trans at 31
>>42378301>Always want to have long hair>Genuinely wanted to be a girl since I was about 6 and understood the differences between genders>Ask my mom and older brother if people can really do that after seeing the Garrison Sex Change southpark episode>They both say firmly, "NO, THATS FOR FREAKS! THEYLL NNEVER REALLY BE WOMEN.">Favorite toys were stuffed animals>Always jealous of female friends getting cute sparkly unicorns and dolls>Get too excited about tucking the bottom of my shirt into my collar to make it into a mock tank top as a preteen>Find myself staring at classmates abs and dicks in the locker room>Get called out on it>Assure myself Im not gay>Dream about being a girl with a vagina and touching myself>Secretly desire to suck dick and get fucked in the ass>Try to select fashion and sewing as my electives in highschool>Awh sorry son we got you into computer and shop class though!Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>42378519are you still doing porn
is manmoding sustainable long-term (10+ years)? so far I have been manmoding for over 2 years, I have to say I really hate it, but desu if I was physically much less masculine and shorter I could tolerate itwhat if you get FFS while manmoding? can you do that? what about SRS?I will never actually pass due to my body (it's pretty masculine) so idk I don't want to detransition and rep again
man, learned that lesson alright
/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)QOTT>Are you or your gf good at making others laugh? What never fails to make you laugh?>Are you a vengeful person? Favorite incident in which you’ve gotten revenge on someone? Are you forgiving?tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2Fdiscord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNRold thread: >>42335213
>>42375916nihao fine shyt
>>42375916we have five mirrion resbian in three shitties
was at a dyke bar last night and stole a transbian's girl right out from under her feelsgoodman
>>42379229No you didn't
>>42379255i don't need you to believe me because it happened
Broke up with my partner and I really really miss them. part of why we broke up is because they’re non binary now should I try to get back with them?
Gonna be real with you anon, 4chan isnt the place to be asking for legit relationship advice
>>42377359Do you like animation memes?
>>42377359Non binary in what way? If it's purely an identity thing with no physical change then you're a fucking retard.
>>42377359do what you want
>>42377359why would them being nonbinary change anything about how you feel about them?
Is Brianna a good person? She's pro lgbt but also supports Israel, but in my opinion it's not that bad, because I'm sure she has her reasons. Futhermore it's not like she supports child murdering anyway, that's just something that Israel does and hamas are terrorists
>>42379105I do miss when kiwifarms was mostly dedicated to BTFOing people who willingly post their debauchery and crimes online for the world to see. It's literally all seething repressors now lol. Joshua moon has the biggest case of gayface I've ever seen.Trannies can change but I don't know why most trans women openly share their racist past. Like if you're smart you mop that shit up like Brianna and just pretend it was a different person. I think to this day she still denies that the guy people accuse of being her pretransition isn't her, despite them sharing like 90% legal documents and graduating at the same time from the same place with the same degree.
>>42379153>Joshua moon has the biggest case of gayface I've ever seenJosh is seriously so mindbroken but retard politics that he's now best friends with a 400 pound man who spent the better part of 4 years calling him a pedophile grifter. It's really pathetic, I seriously just go to the mati thread now to see him expose himself as a low IQ poorfag> I don't know why most trans women openly share their racist pastIme, a lot of people in general that do this, not just trannies, typically were radicalized one way and then instead of getting deradicalized when they become disillusioned with the movement they just shift gears to a different form of radicalization. They find it novel and are aware that their history doesn't matter as long they zealously defend and fight for their new beliefs
>>42377308>>she's pro jew>good>>is pro jew>bad???
>>42377695>>42378060What the fuck? I dont understand this attitude, this "just so" story that all trans people are just like that from birth. Based on what evidence exactly? What about all the people who say the opposite? That they became trans because they experienced dysphoria later in life and were suicidal over it? Or the ones that were ok until puberty, or young adulthood? Or the fact that HSTS and AGP are two clearly delineated groups? Or that some people want SRS and some people really dont want it. You just throw your hands up and call me an ass because why? Actually so frustrating.
>>42379394>two clearly delineated groupsIt's actually not there's an entire spectrum and the dichotomy is false
straight trans women, tell me about your straight boyfriends/husbands
>>42376785He is a massive nerd, he weighs like 55kg and is a bit shorter than me. His jaw is weird and he might go bald but I still love him. I still want to cuddle with him and make nice meals for him so he puts on some weight. Once I get some money I will buy a Gunpla so we can build it together while he rambles about Vietnam War planes or some shit and then I will force him to watch Hamilton again.He is a bit of a chud but he is also terminally offline so we can get along just fine politics-wise.
>>42376785Trans is never straight.
>>42376785My bf is really cute, i'm 25 and he's 21, he's a little younger than I am. He's really sweet. We met through friends back during the time my relationship with my ex blew up, he gave me somewhere to go while my visa ran out, though we're long distance now. He's so caring, he loves nintendo games, he likes alfredo pasta, he loves sushi too, he's smart and cute even if he gives up easily. I've almost blown it a few times, a few weeks ago I got drunk and I almost lost him, but I think things are better now, I've been clean since then and I'm looking at getting therapy. Though he's had to go back to the US and I'm stuck here because of the current administration. I miss him a lot, and going back to long distance is hard, he always sounds a bit mad when we call. I don't know, I can't afford to lose this because I'm never going to find any better. He's more than I deserve and I wish I could cherish him properly. Instead of being a fucked up loser who needs to be saved. I feel like at one point he was pursuing me, but how every relationship goes eventually I have to pursue them because the more people know me the more they know to hate of me. It's my own fault.
>>42379007We've been living together for years and have know each other a lot longer I'm pretty confident he won't troon but sorry that happened to you
>>42376985my ex told me they weren't gonna troon then did
There is nothing more humiliating than being an ftm chaser with a small peenor. You can't even plap their poons properly
>>42379048>I'm the one who plapstsudere bottoms are so cute
There is nothing wrong than being an ftm chaser whos a bottom but has a big cock. You cant even feel like submitting to the poon while having a massive cock
>>42379072Don't think that's the right thread for yy
>>42378129>thinly veiled sph thread
>>42379275It's not exactly hidden even if the humiliation that comes with it is not nice
>started hrt in mid 2016 at 27>now 36>exclusively gendered male>keep getting hair cut short as i'm too scared to let it grow out>still have facial hair as i got too anxious to keep going to appointments>haven't voice trained>haven't come out to any friends or family or coworkers due to fear and anxiety>threw out any women's clothing i had years agoi am terrified of being visibly trans and it's only gotten worse over the years
>>42376145>>42376550I will second this with the addendum that I was worked on by a man a few times too. A very beautiful femboy though.And I live in a conservative country where "trans rights" isn't exactly a thing.That's WHY these clinics exist: to work on people who want modifications to their body in exchange for money. It's literally their job to interact with hons and fags.
>>42370339one of the saddest threads wtf
>>42377334Probably a larp
>>42376550>have seen a million hons just ordinary men coming in to get laser hair removalWouldn't it be mostly men, in fact? Because of the sheer amount of hair alone.
>>42376550is it insecurity or anxietyi haven't even gone to a doctor since i started hrt>>42376573>It's literally their job to interact with hons and fags.at best they'll hold their nose and will only shit talk me behind my backas long as they don't rat me out or some schizo mindbroken by trannies sees me or something
seriously where did you guys go its been like 3 days since the last threadQOTT: did you ever come out before repping? was it irl or only online?
>>42378816so imagine having a naturally formed axe wound between your legs
>>42378998>memekysor find a job
>>42379014GEGGGGwell if you wanna know so bad why dont you get srs yourself then youll really know...
>>42377004Do you mean it?
How do you do my fellow femreppers......... How big are your boobs
>follow self-proclaimed hrtrepper on tumblr>mostly just because she posts relatable shit about dysphoria/manmoding>constantly complains about her appearance, how disgusting she looks>me too girl>one day after getting slightly more attention than usual on one of her dysphoria rants she gets asked to actually post a picture of herself>she obliges>picrelit's fucking over. apparently she's in her late 20s, so even more of a luckshit than i thought. even the self-proclaimed "manmoders" are just twinkhons with bdd. IWNBAW
this nigger is so annoying i wish it killed itself when it said it was going to. we know it's you retard get to it
>>42376994that is an anglefraud though i look similar at that angle actually slightly better but i am a whole ass dude
When do you stop being a manmoder ?
>>42377151I think that pic is big soph, the one who used to spam voice threads constantly.Most likely that person created this thread using a pic of fake manmoding to try to fish for compliments.
>>42376994This retard hasn't killed itself yet?
Tell me what you do to cope when your mental health is bad
>>42378468I'm not the person u replied to but <3 https://youtube.com/watch?v=PQK2QbMW-Qk&si=D5tpn2MHlv2Q1CY5
>>42378497I'm sorry, I hope you get better soon >I even had hojicha before bed and it was fine (although there is a small amount of caffeine I think Asians are naturally more immune to caffeine or something, cause I saw a pic on pinterest from I think a Korean girl of her holding 2 cans of coffee and it was night, and in multiple different mangas there were scenes where characters were drinking coffee or tea at night. Ik people with adhd actually get relaxed from caffeine so idk I actually have adhd but I dont think its that severe and when I drink matcha tea or green tea in the evening I cant sleep for a while, but when I drink green tea in the morning I often fall asleep again quickly after, it's weird
>>42378633Well, their coffee is drip coffee, and has less caffeine by cup compared to espressos.Although I did see some couple get a big cup of black coffee from the konbini past midnight lol.Tea also contains L-Theanine which acts as some kind of "relaxant" but also interacts with caffeine. It's specific effects probably changes from person to person.
I just ate some chocolate! Ice cream later.Im just actually hungry
>>42377836Alcohol, weed, sometimes trying to reach out to others to try to quell my crushing loneliness, usually failing. Often I just cry.>>42377872Yeah... That's usually what the "failing" part entails above. Got a lot of experience/trauma that no one wants to deal with someone who's sad...>>42377912Absinthe is good. I guess most nights I'm having at least one drink, but it's been less lately. Not because the depression is better ('cause it's much worse), mostly just because it often doesn't help.>>42378091I'm sorry, nona. :(
Well, I'm back and here I bring you my story again, now in English. "So, I just turned 18. My name is Luis, I'm from Mexico, and my whole life I’ve believed I was straight and into girls. I masturbate to porn like any normal guy, and since I come from a religious background where love is only between a man and a woman, I spent my entire life hating and being grossed out by guys or LGBT people. All my friends are straight. But for a few months now, I’ve fallen in love with my male best friend and another guy too. I never said anything back when I was 16, but now I’m 18.I’ve been a fan of Millie Bobby Brown since I first saw her in Godzilla: King of the Monsters, and I fell in love with her. Back then, I was—and still am—a fan of Stranger Things, especially now that Season 5 came out, which I really liked. I’m still in love with Millie; she’s been my crush since I was a pre-teen, both as Eleven and as Madison Russell in the Monsterverse.But now, watching Season 5 of Stranger Things, the scene where Will admits he's gay really hit me. It got me thinking a lot about myself and my feelings. I finished the season, and it definitely had an impact on how I see things.Regarding my sexuality, I've been doing a lot of thinking and realizing some things about myself.I even wrote this in my college notebook:I want a boyfriend like Mike.To treat me like Eleven.And for me to feel like Will.Based on that, I'm starting to identify as gay. I've already told a few friends, and thankfully, they've been really supportive, so I didn't lose their friendship. Now I'm just trying to figure out how to come out more broadly. What do you guys think? What's your take on all of this?"
Revealed your true identity
Hello Luis from Mexico how much do they teach you about the Dr. Yakub and buck breaking in your public education sector? This is at first glance an acute case of yakubian tricknology and possibly depleted melanin.
So, keep us updated on your progress and see how it goes for you these next few days.
>all it took to make him gay was one gay character coming out Man you were on the brink already if all it took was a little push
