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You're not a real reader unless you've read a dictionary cover to cover. How can you read if you don't know words?
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But every word's definition uses words to define that word, so then I have to look up those words and so on ad infinitum.
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>>24966024
>Biographer Ashlee Vance claims Elon Musk read the Encyclopædia Britannica twice.
No fucking way
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The zebra did it
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>>24966691
i heard it was the aardvark
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It is not possible to know words; your understanding will always be inadequate compared to the writer's or lost on the reader.

what would pre-renaissance era philosophers think about modern computers?
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>>24966300
Maybe, it might just be a result of the deposition process.
I'm not even sure why the wafer is round.
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>>24966347
they spin it to make the silicon crystals or some shit
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>>24966350
things don't need to be round in order to spin
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>>24966300
It's so they can use larger or smaller wafers without needing to change the tooling.

>>24966347
The crystal naturally grows as a tube (pic related), they cut it into slices like a salami.
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>>24962726
A black mirror.

You feel it when in love or in a forest old. In Ypres they saw it. The great bard's metre or an old master's stroke. When your child coddled in your arms or you bathed in the Sistine. What is this mysterious ether that gives meaning to our lives? Is it a figment of psychology or a glimpse of divinity?
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>>24966748


«SUBLIME»: FROM LATIN «SVBLIMIS» —«SVB» («UNDER»); «LIMES» («LIMIT»)—; LITERALLY: «UNDER LIMIT».

THE SENSE THAT SOMETHING SUBLIME IS SOMETHING «LOFTY», «ÆTHEREAL», «UPLIFTED», IS AN ABERRATION FROM XVIII CENTURY IDEALISM.
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>>24966501
Please kill yourself you dumb fucking retard, You're literally a waste of breathe for many other people, Your whole existence accounts for nothing but disappointment, do yourself a favor and kill yourself
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>>24966537
Beautifully written
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>>24966763
latin did not use sub the way modern english does. here sub = up to. and the second element is limen - threshold - not limes.
virgil uses it for towering objects.
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>>24966767
Nta but do not let his words perturb you. It is of no consequence really.

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Books that give off this phenotype
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>>24964364
I have more respect for those types than most 4channers. My dad is of a similar breed. But he's my father and I don't know most of you fucks from Adam. I come here for two reasons: book recommendations and baiting yous from third worlders with tiny peckers and lands with cholera infested drinking water. Yeah, I enjoy punching down. Who doesn't?
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>>24958416
I don't think gay, snarky, argumentative and wrong are phenotypes.
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>>24966289
No he's not. Performative masculinity is its own spectrum aside from nümale. Certain categories might overlap a bit (e.g. Atomic Habits and the Stoicism meme) but trad as a subgenre of performative masculinity is pretty far away from the fags in OP (who're closer to something like White Dudes for Harris).
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>>24958416
Guns, Germs, and Steel

Thought on Kurt Vonnegut?
He's a beloved author and from what I gather he seems like a solid approachable modern novelist
What are his best works?
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>>24964743
I've only read Slaughterhouse V by him, and I really disliked it.
>experience dresden
>feel the need to write a book about dresden
>dresden was traumatic
>you'd rather avoid confronting the trauma
>write a book about experiencing trauma without directly confronting the trauma
>this is my book about dresden
So it goes.
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>>24964743
Slaughterhouse five was meh, I remember liking slapstick though
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>>24964743
He's the perhaps the most shameless plagiarist of the 20th century.

His writing style, his humor, even his drip, all stolen from picrels nonfic.
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>>24964743
Breakfast of Champions and Mother Night are his best. Slaughterhouse Five and Cat's Cradle are his most accessible.
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Is Vonnegut required reading in the USA? If not I don't get why people hate him so much
I thought Slaughterhouse V was great

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As a film fan, I've always loved Gandalf as a character, but ever since I began reading the LOTR a little over a month ago, my admiration for him increased substantially. Ian McKellen's performance was very faithful to the source material, and I feel like it's emblematic of PJ's stance towards it (excluding Tom Bombadil's or Glorfindel's absence).

Which begs the question, what do the diehard book fans take issue with in the film adaptations? Christopher Tolkien's words about Peter Jackson's work are very jarring to hear, considering the films' colossal success.
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>>24965581
But it IS for children, Anon. Unless you are retarded, I guess.
The problem is the movie also appeals to manchildren that want fake depth while enjoying le movie magic like CGI shit and props and pathos on overdrive.
The movie is actually quite enjoyable if you treat it as opera and focus 80% on the music and for the rest just enjoy the colors and movement and acting from great actors. And embrace the funny and goofy or else go watch Game of Thrones if you want to pretend this shit should be realistic.
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>>24966194
>Elrond portrayed as gruff and borderline angry all the time.
>Also Elrond shooting Neo with guns all the time.
Anon, it's been a long time, but I think you went into the wrong projection back in 2000.
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>>24966699
26 years ago, people could still tell the difference between fiction and reality.
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>>24966709
It being fiction doesn't make it any less worse to laugh at such a thing
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>>24966714
Dude, relax. It was funny.

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Any non-fiction book that taught you valuable and concrete things that you were able to use in real life?

For me it was picrel, I am a social retard and these books enhanced my social awarness
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>>24960532
You guys are seriously overrating this. Unless you are a hyper autist that needs to be told that smiling gives others a good impression of you.
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>>24965841
It's value has only increased in the current day where so many young people have trouble interacting with others in person.
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>>24965847
Be that as it may. Half of it is anecdotal stories from people who attended his classes, there is some gold in those but still.
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>>24964889
>I doubt Carnegie had anything to say about LSD and hypnosis.
Well have I got the book for you.
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>>24966641
Is Carnegie CIA? I thought he was a run of the mill boomer capitalist.

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Have you read every page of the meme trilogy? If so, which was best?
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>>24964197
no, i'm just disgusted by you
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Of course not. Nobody seriously reads the end notes in IJ. Also nobody can speak Gaelic so if they claim to read Ulysses or FW they just "read" like 50% nonsense without comprehending it.
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>>24966041
>Nobody seriously reads the end notes in IJ
Just read the Wikipedia summary while you're at it if you won't read the entire book
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I will read the entire OED and record myself as proof
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Blood Meridian isn't part of the meme pantheon yet?

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You need more?
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>>24965866
>Does the sentence structure and grammar also make it difficult?
yes, certainly. i think maybe i emphasized the difficulty of the vocabulary too much. the way he constructs sentences is another factor. the way he'll shift the subject of the sentence somewhere else in the sentence, etc. the last thing i'll remark on is the dream / fantasy sequences. for me, when he launches into these even if i understand what he is saying i'll start questioning, "am i understanding him right?"
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>>24965432
nah.
Céline eats words.
it's part of his style.
D'un château l'autre literally is a short for d'un château à l'autre.
in english: from a castle to another.

OP was asking if i was needing more.
there was my answer: "à".

1/10 made me explain.
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>>24965646
I disagree but cool, I'm going to pick up the first two volumes of the new edition and give Voyage au bout de la nuit a re-read
Seems like this is one of the better Pléiade editions
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>Voici donc ce qu'écrivait ce petit bousier pendant que j'étais en prison en plein péril qu'on me pende. Satanée petite saloperie gavée de merde, tu me sors de l'entre-fesse pour me salir au dehors ! Anus Caïn pfoui. Que cherches-tu ? Qu'on m'assassine ! C'est l'évidence ! Ici ! Que je t'écrabouille ! Oui !... Je le vois en photo, ces gros yeux... ce crochet... cette
ventouse baveuse... c'est un cestode ! Que n'inventerait-il, le monstre, pour qu'on m'assassine ! A peine sorti de mon caca, le voici qui me dénonce !
Wait is he serious?
Why does he write like this and except anyone to take him seriously?
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>>24966526
Sartre is a vile piece of shit, what's your problem exactly? Why couldn't he just leave Céline alone?

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English is such a shit language. For me the nail in the coffin for English was when I learned that the problem of ambiguity between argument and explanation, where all you have to disambiguate is context, which they talk about in logic books, is not something which is universal in logic, but rather is a problem of English. Other languages don't have this problem. English is a low IQ language. All it's good for is dumbing down the masses.
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>>24966536
No, it's a retarded book. English just sucks. Other languages are more logical but they don't limit thought.
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>>24966536
What consoles me is even if this is true, OP is still BTFO
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>>24966549
Oh yeah, obviously.
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>>24965277
>English is a low IQ language because you have to use patterns to understand the context of a given statement
Two problems with this
1 - That is what IQ is
2 - Every Germanic language is like this. I speak German and it isn't significantly different in that regard.
3 - You are Indian.
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>>24965384
10th post best post.

Surprisingly Enough(NOT), Common Sense Is Overpowered in Cliché Writing Website Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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wondering how long my story should be
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>>24966428
Thank you for the feedback. I can see where you are coming from. I just don't read German material for over 15 years.

Going to see if I can earn the confusion. If it parses now, even if and albeit awkward that is some progress.
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>>24966707
3000 chapters or so should suffice
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>>24966662
That just sounds like fan service
>>24966707
How much do you have so far?
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>>24966707
I'm ending in the 220-270k range. I get in, tell the story I wanted to, and finish it.

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Seo amach an Boc beathaithe stáidiúil Mulligan ag barr an staighre, mias sobail ina láimh agus scáthán agus rásúr leagtha trasna os a cionn. Bhí séideán beag d’aer na maidine ag séideadh a fhallaing seomra scaoilte bhuí siar uaidh. Chroch sé in airde an mhias agus d’aithris:

-Introibo ad altare Dei.

Stop sé, bhreathnaigh sé síos an staighre lúbach dorcha agus ghlaoigh sé amach go garbh:

-Tar aníos, a Kinch. Tar aníos a íosánaigh chruthanta!

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English, German, Yiddish, Plautdietsch, French, Occitan, Catalan, Spanish, Ladino, Italian, Latin, Chutch Latin, Corsican, Sicilian, Romanian, Dutch, Luxembourgish, West Frisian, Cornish, Welsh, Irish Gaelic, Scots, Breton, Danish, Bokmål, Nynorsk, Swedish and also Ancient Greek.

I currently know Yiddish, Catalan, Latin, and French.
How realistic is this goal? I figure once I get to 10 or 15 I'll hit exit velocity and the rest will come naturally with very little study. My goal is to be able to read absolutely everything in the Western Canon.

I have an IQ of 110 but lots of free time.
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I don't think this is that hard.
I think if great thinkers of the past had all the resources we have today they would have done this too.
There were no Cornish dictionaries. Now you can just click on a word and get it translated instantly.
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Why bother learning the Celtic languages? Gaelic literature, the magna opera of which are not written in the modern tongues, is essentially isolated from the Western Canon. Brythonic literature’s greatest influence is on the French and English Arthurian cycles
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>>24963845
You'll die before doing it. Just learn four or five.
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Learn Old Norse
I don't know why you want to learn so many meme languages but Old Norse is solid
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As a Ukrainian, who is able to read in 7 foreign languages (Russian and Belarusian by default, English, German and Norwegian Bokmål by learning, Norwegian Nynorsk and Danish by knowing Bokmål), I can say that it would be still very OK if I knew only 2 languages (English and German, for example), because I don't have time to meaningfully read more than in 3 different languages per week: there are to many tasty books in English and German (I read mainly non-fiction), so I have like only one day for Bokmål and don't use other languages at all.

My advice: choose 2 languages with large scope of content (in which you are interested; there should be free books on shadow libraries, audiobooks on torrents, etc) and learn them.

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I read purely because it makes me better than everyone else
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>>24960113
Reading turns some into geniuses, and most into arrogant midwits.
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>>24965427
It turns people into smart people?
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>>24961115
you are a concentrate of the two most obnoxious types of people on the planet, congratulaions
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>>24960113
You read because you have an inferiority complex. I read because I enjoy literature. We are not the same
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>>24960141
You have Down syndrome?

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I have been reading Chinese classics lately and finished this one. Out of all of the ones I've read so far, this has to be the greatest.

Has /lit/ read traditional Chinese classics like Romance of the 3 kingdoms, Journey to the west, Dream of Red Chamber, Investiture of the Gods, and others?
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>>24965091
Picking this up when I can
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>>24958227
friends have been telling me to read 'to live' by yu hua, waiting for my library hold but it will be my first chinese lit. I've been planning on hittin water margin for a long time, but just because it's so old and long I keep putting it off. Is that shit lit or what
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I took several Chinese literature classes when I was in college, and I enjoyed them immensely. One of the last texts we were assigned was a story from Liao Zhai's Record of Wonders, in which the protagonist almost dies of sexual exhaustion from being doubleteamed by a foxspirit girl and a ghost girl. Was pretty funny. I ended up buying the anthology book that our professor sourced most of the assigned readings from, and I keep it displayed prominently in my home library.
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>>24964872
did you even watch the three kingdoms series?
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>>24958227
have you guys heard of wm theodore de bary?


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