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Other than A Christmas Carol. What are the must read Christmas literature?
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The other Dickens Christmas stories
The Nutcracker by Dumas
Rock Crystal by Stifter
Christmas at Thompson Hall by Trollope

There's also The Nutcracker and the Mouse King by Hoffmann and The Night Before Christmas by Gogol that I haven't read yet

The rest are mostly very short
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>>24951717
Nothing Lasts Forever by Thorpe
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Jesus in the Talmud by Peter Schäfer
So you know where Jesus is immersed right now and don't have to follow him

2025 is almost over. What's the best book you read this year?
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>>24951740
>Eckermann's Goethe
Any favorite tidbits? I've been meaning to get around to it, but I'm waiting until I finish Wilhelm Meister.
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>>24947496
>no country for old men
>>24947564
>Suttree
If you haven't yet, All the Pretty Horses and Blood Meridian are must reads
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>>24947281
Du côté de chez Swann
Extension du domaine de la lutte
Apologie de Raymond Sebond
Les Fleurs du mal
Complete Stories of Poe

I’m not going to lie, I read them all in English. I seriously need to fix my French learning schedule.
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>>24949595
FUCK yes
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>>24951773
Here are a few bits i liked:

"Beranger, by contrast, is utterly self-sufficient as a writer. This is why he has never served any party. He finds so much fulfillment in his own thoughts and feelings that the world can give nothing to him and take nothing from him." "An incident from our life is worth recording not because it is true, but because it meant something." "Error belongs to libraries, truth to the human mind. Books beget more books, but the study of living primordial laws is pleasing to the mind that can grasp the simple, disentangle the complex, and bring light into darkness." "The approach I adopted more than forty years ago is still valid: one is led through all the labyrinthine twists and turns of the comprehensible until one comes up against the incomprehensible - at which point, having learned a great deal, one can happily content oneself with that. None of your philosophers, ancient or modern, has managed to go any further." "The story of Napoleon shows us how dangerous it is to exalt oneself to the realm of the absolute, and to sacrifice everything to the pursuit of an idea." "we should not get hung up on one particular thing and try to turn it into the ultimate ideal. We must not think that Chinese literature is everything, or Serbian literature, or Calderon. or the Nibelungen; if we are looking for the ultimate ideal, then we need to go back everytime to the ancient Greeks, in whose works the finest human qualities are always represented. We must regard all the rest as just the product of its times, and take from it such good things we can find."

I have at least a dozen more but ill stop there.

>short but complex enough to hold your attention
>Easy to read without the dumbed down low IQ prose slop of modern fantasy
>no political correctness
Start with the pulps
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>>24949905
>the dumbed down low IQ prose slop of modern
I don't think you know what those words mean and that's why you hide them in a greentext faux-quote.

>Start with the pulps
Put the pulps in the scifi/fantasy general if you want clicks
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>>24949905
First poster is an estrogenic ass faggot. Yes OP, you're right. It's nice to read high quality short stories. It helped my zoomie attention span too.
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>>24949905
Conan rules! I must write pulp and more stories like Conan.

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>"They dance so languorously, the women of Syria. I knew then in Jerusalem a Jewess who, in a hovel, by the light of a small smoky lamp, on a bad carpet, danced raising her arms to clash her cymbals. Her back arched, her head thrown back and as if dragged down by her heavy auburn hair, her eyes drowned in voluptuousness, ardent and languishing, supple, she'd have made Cleopatra herself pale with envy. I loved her barbaric dances, her slightly husky and yet so sweet singing, the smell of her incense, the semi-sleeping state she seemed to live in. I followed her everywhere. I mixed in with the vile crowd of soldiers, boatmen and publicans she was surrounded with. One day she disappeared and I never saw her again. I looked for a long time for her in doubtful alleyways and taverns. She was harder for me to do without than Greek wine. A few months after I had lost track of her, I learned, quite by chance, that she had joined a small group of men and women who were followers of a young Galilean miracle worker. He was called Jesus, came from Nazareth, and was crucified, for what crime I don't know. Do you remember that man, Pontius?"
>Pontius Pilate frowned, bringing his hand to his forehead like someone who is trying to remember. Then, after a few moments of silence, he murmured:
>"Jesus. Jesus. From Nazareth? No. I can't bring him to mind."
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>>24944367
Jews were nowhere near as small an ethnic group back then as you probably think they were, they made up like 10 percent of the empire's populaton which meant millions even back then. And by roman standards their religion was seen not unlike the way non-deluded westerners see islam nowadays.

And if you know how jews think of gentile westerners now, you know how the average jew thought of romans back then. Having millions of people adhering to a religion in your empire that think only they are truly human and everyone else are subhuman helots made by their god to serve them is basically a recipe for disaster.
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>>24948635
jews were never a tiny ethnic group up until the post-ww2 era
eastern europe was full of them in the 19th century
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>>24943625
I bet he remembered when he got to Hell though. Although the reference isn't totally clear, Dante seems to have in the vestibule of Hell, amongst those who failed to choose a side between good and evil.
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>>24943625
He would've remembered Jesus if he had had a big black cock. Just sayin'.
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>>24943625
>quid est veritas
It's literally an anagram: est vir qui adest ("It is the man who is here"

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I can't remember anything this guy said.
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>>24948663
He looks like he's lacking basic nutrients and a balanced diet, he looks underslept, he looks pale like he hasnt been outside for months, he has bags under his eyes like hes been staring at screens all day every day
He looks sick
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>>24951053
*"SNIFFPH! And so forth"
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>>24948671
I read the Penguin volume of his essays and thought most of it was pure garbage, but this is actually good. What do I read of Schopenhauer to get more like this, and less "life is le bad" crap?
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>>24948663
"I'll dig your mother from the grave and fuck her". Seriously.
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>>24948663

Unwilling Eldritch Horror of Slop Edition

Stubbed >>24943213

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24951718
Putting a loredump in my dialogue that I don't plan to ever reference after the chapter ends...
perfect
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>>24951723
I self edited that
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>>24951718
>air and earth are up and down but fire and water aren't left and right
gay
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>>24951512
>>24951581
>>24951614
Thanks, I'll check them out
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>>24950445
Same here. It's happened to me so many times I wonder how any writer has ever gotten anything done ever.
This is one of those instances in which trad publishing beats webnovel serials, you only have to drag yourself through the hell of writing 200 pages and that,s it whereas writing ad infinitum lasts until you Hemingway yourself.

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>The Lord of the Rings is often erroneously called a trilogy, when it is in fact a single novel consisting of six books plus appendices, sometimes published in three volumes.
-Note on the text, Douglas A. Anderson, 1993

What is a book, as Anderson (and presumably Tolkien) means it? For me naively a book and a bound volume is the same thing. Did Tolkien intend for the Lord of the Rings to be published as six books? Wouldn't that make it a hexalogy?
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>>24951767
The three-volume split was imposed by his publisher Allen & Unwin for practical post-war economic reasons (paper was expensive, and a single massive volume would have been too expensive). Tolkien didn't want this.
>Six books
When Anderson (and Tolkien himself) use the word "book" they're using it in the older, classical sense, like the way Homer's Iliad has 24 "books" or Virgil's Aeneid has 12 "books."
>Hexalogy
It wouldn't be a hexalogy because those six books aren't six independent works—they're divisions within one work, just as the Aeneid isn't a "dodecalogy." A trilogy or hexalogy implies separate, complete narratives that form a series. Tolkien's work is formally one story divided for publishing reasons.
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>>24951780
>the older, classical sense,
Meaning?
>like the way Homer's Iliad has 24 "books" or Virgil's Aeneid has 12 "books."
More examples doesn't answer my question. What is a book?
>because those [...] books aren't six independent works
Isn't that what makes things trilogies? They're _connected_ works. If they're independent works there's nothing linking them into a trilogy.

I am ignorant of the Eastern ways. What is the point to negating every point and entering complete dissolution from being? Why is annihilation the good if we can't even have a good? Or am I misunderstanding the Buddha.
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A true intellectual understanding of concepts like emptiness does not occur until you have made some spiritual progress. This either requires you to have a teacher who can train you, or you follow a western path first then jump over once you're ready.
For now, practise being mindful and meditate. The concept of "ichigo zammai" will be useful, as well as zen stuff as a whole. You need to experience things, not just thinkcel about it.
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>>24951049
How do I experience things?
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Annihilation isn't the goal of Taoism
In Taoism you're supposed to extend your life as far as possible

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Who's up for a good ol' fashioned stack/recent cops thread?
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I haven't opened most of these because I'm staying with my in-laws for a few weeks.
The books wrapped up are Playwrights of Tomorrow 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13.
The Japanese books was written by a local bookseller, and recommended by one of my favorites booksellers in the city. It dives into the world of second hand bookstores and how to run one of them. I'll read it with Google Translate.
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>>24950784
The Bible is the foundation to any serious reading program.
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>>24950805
This guy has a neo-vagina.
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>>24945672

>A book about the celebration of Jewish thinking is titled "To Life!"
>Jewish thought is defined by extinguishing the life of the people you stole land from

Pottery
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>>24942138
Garbage


>>24943238
Poverty shelf. Did you model your life on will hunting? How about them apples?

>>24945672
A mitzvah

>>24945672
Best stack by far

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I write for illiterates.
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>>24950803
ok, John Green.
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>>24950803
This is unironically what MrBeast does.
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>>24951675
>MrBeast
MrBeast makes videos, retard.
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>>24950803
Non canimus surdis.
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>>24951699
Gen Alpha watches silently with subtitles. He notoriously employs a rather large text publishing team to make them better than the standard YouTube auto CC.

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What did I think?
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>>24947559
This is not a black space.
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>>24947736
Green eggs and han only used 50 words
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>>24948764
"how the grinch ruined christmas" sounds a lot more gay
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>>24951693
"How the Grinch violated the NAP"
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>>24948764
Wait until you read the Neverending Story.

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Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
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I hide small stones in the forgotten corners
Count the dust grains half heartedly
Still the certainty of sun and moon
Offers some solace and measures the time
Well spent, lost forever
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Everyday
Showing up to the same job
Hating it
No time off
Irregular hours
To hurry up and wait
On a payoff
Never coming
Lost in shipping
Reordered
Lost again
Timeless waiting
On a gift
Of it ending
While they never pay him

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"Cartel" - Julio Cortazar
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I see the world as chaos, and at its center a rose.
I see the rose as the happy eye of beauty, and at its center the worm.
I see the worm as a fragment of immense life, and at its center death.
I see death as the flame of nothingness, and at its center hope.
I see hope as a stained-glass window singing at midday, and at its center man.
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>>24951252
It's not a poem.
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What's the one by Kipling about a settler/pioneer making his way into an undiscovered land?
Thanks in advance, pic unrel

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Stephen King says it's good practice to have a goal of writing 6 pages a day. What do you think, anon? Is that doable for you?
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>>24951285
Stephen King don’t gotta edit to sell novels.
Well I do, so fuck him, and fuck Sanderson too.
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>>24951323
>I'm adding 1 word to my novella a day, I'll be done once I'm in my eighties
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>>24951335
You think I give a damn about a Hugo?
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>>24951285

I write at least 100 pages per day, assuming 4chan posts count.
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>>24951285
uhh I can't reach that number even if I count low effort social media comments
I can't even measure up to >>24951747

Everything else just seems so spooked and retarded. Like these "philosophers" can't even see past their own circumstances or analyze their own thoughts and motivations, only (poorly) justify their own particular neuroses. Has there ever been a half decent attempt at addressing, let alone refuting him?
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>>24949436
> That's not what I'm saying. Egoism is (can be) a spook too. Spooks aren't some """morally wrong""" thing that you have to avoid, they're just tools to pursue your own self interest. Using spooks is necessary thing, even.
Okay, good, so we agree on this.
> Could some of these spooks still reasonably be useful to me? Maybe, but I haven't found any that do.
This part is personal - maybe none of what we consider respectable philosophy speaks to you and this is fine. I personally found a few that speak to me.
For example, epicureans and stoics - honestly if we had more access to epicurean stuff I'd just read that, but I make do with Seneca. A significant part of it has to do with the nice written style and the spook of ancient wisdom, which a modern CBT self-help book (which will tell you pretty much the same things) does not have.
I also found some parts of the New Testament enjoyable, because I feel a lot of commonality with the biblical Pilate. The Satanic Bible was also funny, but mostly in the "so bad it's good" sense (it's practically a reference example of disavowing religion while remaining spooked).
> I don't believe that these spooks have very good predictive/descriptive power in determining the actions of other people.
I think it depends mostly on the stakes. When their decisions become matters of life and death, or have significant impact on personal income - yeah, it's mostly going to be pure "war of all against all" and none of the ideological pretensions will matter. When the stakes are lower, like how people react to some news that does not immediately have to do with them - understanding their beliefs does have some predictive power.

There's also another part of reading stuff to understand other people. Again, I don't know if this works for you, or if it's just me. I am personally uneasy with opaque, murky concepts that operate on trust. They feel capricious and ominous. Understanding what goes on under the hood and rationalizing stuff makes me feel good by itself, even when my mental model is imperfect and may never be used.
For example, I've had a very fun time reading about the Second Vatican Council and how it's fractured catholics, about FSSPX and sedevacantists - even though I'm not catholic and do not deal with catholics on a daily basis. I think Weber calls this "disenchantment".
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You can cleverly get into philosophy of Math because you cannot just do what you want and walk away satisfied.
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>>24950827
The law of noncontradiction is also a spook. I reject it.
>Walk away satisfied
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>>24949235
spooked
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>>24950831
fair, but you will not make satisfying progress in your own mathematics without a sound philosophy

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>I did not know but that, under the circumstances, such being the case heretofore, I would be left in truth, as it were, without recourse and wherefore I took care for whatsoever means that were expedient yet prudent.
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>>24951322
"Philosophy"
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>>24951322
Shit translation


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