Recently I got into highly acclaimed literature because I heard it had narratives that were vastly superior to low-brow entertainment (like anything that's not artsy film). So I read Crime and Punishment and I thought it was pretty interesting. But the way everyone acted it was like the book was supposed to give me an existential crisis or something like that. I also read The Great Gatsby which I think was basically just a 1920s Shakespeare play and I think it was just fine but not groundbreaking. I also tried to read Infinite Jest but I think it filtered me honestly. Anyway what do I do? Am I too retarded for this? Should I just watch anime instead or?
>>24986955DON QUIXOTEONQUIXOTE
>>24987026Nope, that's lowbrow.
>>24987047Filtered.
Steppenwolf is the Evangelion of literature. See which one you like better
>>24986969What I have learned is that a lot of that sort of literature seems to disregard things like plot, which OK you can do that, but I don't find it interesting personally. Why would I read Infinite Jest when I could have a 30 minute conversation with someone in a rehab center?
Dastardly New Age Edition>Old:>>24975110>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>24986808It's not worth the time or effort.
erikson got lazy with trull sengar. you'd think he'd write him as complex as karsa or rake but nah, OP fantasy hero
So is there a reason why Icarium is so powerful? Does he have some secret super power inside him? The way they talk him up it's like he's monumentally more powerful than any other Jaghut. I reached Reaper's Gale, so nothing beyond Bonehunters please. I don't really get this character yet, he feels kind of unearned. It was more interesting to hear about his inventions rather than jerking off his martial prowess like he's some walking nuke. I like Mappo way more.
>>24987044>So is there a reason why Icarium is so powerfulhe taps into the chaos warren and is the son of an elder god. karsa has suspicions who his mother is.
>>24985317I have never read any DnD novels. My fantasy reading is confined to heavy Tolkien (LoTR, Silmarillion, History of Middle Earth) + lots of self published stuff from the early kindle era + a few dragon age novels + Rothfuss (fuck him). I have been hankering for some classic sword and sorcery stories though. So I figure Drizzt is a good story to jump into (was debating either that or Conan). Though at 40 novels given all other reading goals for the year might not happen completely. We shall see.
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>>24984808>Joseph Smith was a liar, deceived by the devil, and he was not, is not, nor will ever be a prophet.You're so close to another important realization
>>24984808>He was deceived by the devilTo believe what?
>>24984995That men can become gods, the same lie Satan told to Adam in the garden
>>24985020Ye are gods? That was Jesus
>>24984995That he was a prophet. Name ONE of his new teachings.>>24984833>didn't read
Which do you lean towards here with Being vs. Becoming:1. Mutual exclusion – Being and Becoming are incompatible; Becoming is illusion/error.2. Full symbiosis – Being and Becoming co-constitute each other; neither is prior.3. Hierarchical asymmetry – Being is primary; Becoming is derivative or degradative.4. Participatory asymmetry – Being is prior, but certain forms of Becoming can disclose or host it.5. Process primacy – Becoming is fundamental; “Being” is a stabilized abstraction.6. Nondual emptiness – Neither Being nor Becoming has independent reality; both arise dependently.7. Agnostic/pragmatic – The distinction is a conceptual tool with no final ontological answer.
>>24986704It’s all language games.
>>249867048. There is only Becoming. Being is a fiction in a world where all phenomena is dependently originated (hat tip: Buddha)
>>24987135That's 3 and by describing rules that supposedly always hold you're still implying Being exists.
>>249867044, with shades of 2 and 5
>>24987135Yeah that's not from Gautama though, that's post sectarian Mahayana garbage. In the first place whatever is dependent and originated is illusory, it doesn't have ultimate existence.
There is much a man might learn from the minds of women, were he willing to lay aside pride and hear them with humility.
>>24986404I like this list, you can tell they panicked at the last entry when they realised everybody they'd picked was white.
>>24986474Yeah, she's sufficiently educated and batshit insane that she's interesting to read. But the bar is high.
>>24987114lol
>>24986404>Were he willing to lay aside prideAnd common sense, and basic decency, and humanity. You don't listen to subhumans or subhuman enablers, Anon. Down that road lies madness.
>>24987036But this is what women mean when they say something's missing from male writers. Few are willing to admit the female urge to cuckold their husbands. Her instinct is to mould her husband into a beta bitch then cheat on him after wondering where the attraction went, and does not even consider the idea that she did it herself.
you did read 100+ books in the year of our Lord 2025 didnt you /lit/?
>>24986992>like a cow in an open sunny fieldlmao that's amazing, can I use that?
>>24987017Yes it is not mine it was gifted to me by God
I read 240 but to be fair about half were poetry chapbooks of varying quality and a couple were plays, screenplays and short classics like The Great Mean & The Doctrine of Learning.
>>24987063Damn, I mean Doctrine of the Mean and Great Learning
>>24986731rolling for 2026 Goodreads
can we save him, /lit/, please?what are some things he was right about?
>>24986362Ur-Fascism is very useful, so long as you don't treat it as a literal checklist of fascism, which he explicitly says to not do in the essay but a lot of people do it anyway.
>>24986780Its about as useful as a definition of communism from an anti-communist, which is to say its not useful at all.
ITT: fags
>>24986809People are capable of writing objectively about things they disagree with.
>>24986886people can write objectively about anything but it doesn't mean that they doDoes Eco have a better understanding of fascism than the people that pioneered it? I dont think so
I don't get the appeal
>>24984719>sheltered muchNo.
>>24982521Why do you think every book has to appeal to you?You don't understand the concept of individual tastes and that some books are up your alley and some aren't?
>>24984287wash your tongue when speaking to your betters, vermin.
>>24982521I’m just starting chapter 3, so maybe I will learn later, but how the hell did someone like Ignatius manage to get a Master’s? I know he’s inspired by Toole himself and his strange academic colleagues, but he seems too retarded and lazy to have been able to graduate college let alone continue to graduate school. It would make more sense if he resembled more modern neckbeards or lolcows and basically had zero formal education despite his obsession with the medieval period
>>24982521Of course you don’t. The book is about (You) trying to get a job. Yes, when you fail people really laugh at you when they care (most of the time they don’t).
Why do you put faith in metaphysical claims that can't be empirically tested? Are you just a science-ignorant caveman?
>>24987146The most decentralized religious structure that still leaves you accountable to the highest power, responsible for continued education, in need of religious, political, and scholarly authority, and still has one book as the ultimate guide. Punishment for transgression is always severe. If tradition sounds too harsh then you may want to stop concerning yourself with such things.
>>24987157All right. Recommend me a book
>>24987167The Qur'ran. If you submit then the remaining distillations will depend. There are thousands of Hadith and a grading scale. You will likely find only 5 or 6 matter and you may just want to stick to 1. This also presupposes a community of Islamic law which has an agreement The Qur'ran is incomplete. Just start with The Qur'ran. It is proclaimed by divine authority that The Qur'ran is easier to learn, and no further presuppositions are needed at this point until you assimilate.
>>24987195Do you think it possible to disregard the ahadith altogether? Because it doesn't actually have any other authority beyond "just trust me bro.">The Qur'ran is incomplete.Are you quoting or is this your opinion?
>>24987206Muhammed was selected to deliver only Qur'ran. This is free of all contradiction. If you want to know what tradition is then you will have to learn this as all others who have submitted have learned.
>Anna's Archive
>>24986985Based?
>>24986985Anna isn't a real girl?
>>24987163Do you really think women are interested in the computer engineering behind shadow libraries?
the anna in question
>>24986982Stop thieving. For your own sake. You're accruing karmic debt.
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>>24986852Saddled with a 2/10 on its potential to change human history..
>>24986852And we all know literary bigwigs just love publishing stuff with the potential to change human history (they don't)
>>24987099*change the course of human history. Obviously, they love publishing stuff that changes history.
>>24985268Try adding some content to it
>>24987105Back to /wng/ with you
Who are your influences? I'll start with mine:- Plato- Nieztsche- Peterson- Jung- Deleuze- Yarvin- Butler- Schopenhauer- Paul Ricouer-Hegel
>>24986029name whats based and cringe
>>24978753>music>literature board
>>24981565>I bet you're absolutely insufferable.>Anyway, Burke, Hume, Machievelli, Cicero, Le Bon. Schmitt to a certain degree but not without some suspicion.Pot, meet kettle.
Schopenhauer influenced me the most.
>>24978571>Peterson>YarvinWow great choice of grifters to have got life directed by.My only influences are Pavlov, Herbert Spencer and Machiavelli. If you need anything else you are either dumb or unemployed or both.
Chaucer, Shakespeare and Milton are the three greatest writers in the English language and if you haven't read them you are effectively illiterate.
>>24986340Oi, got a loicense for that smack talk?
>>24985831>Btw have you read Johnson? Your description of Shakespeare is reminiscent of his ideas.I have but I can't remember him. I love Milton and Houseman, myself. Johnson disliked the former to an extent.I rated Chaucer above Shakespeare because I agree with you! I'm very intellectual myself, but mostly yearn for the particular; I prefer to access the more eternal aspects of the world via non-fiction, myself. When I read poetry I just want it to tug at my heartstrings or be enjoyable.
>>24985416Why do midwits bother to make threads with the most predictable takes on the planet? You could’ve given some nuanced or insightful commentary on any one of those writers that would’ve done their legacy justice, but apparently you’re too retarded to have anything of value to say about them.
>>24986708Yes, frankly. Just look poetry today--basic meter filters "poets." As a matter of fact I respect Herbert, Donne, and the Metaphysicals generally, and given the density of theme and tightness of form they exhibit I might not have disagreed so sharply with you had you cited them rather than Chaucer and Shakespeare, though I still think that English, due to its hybrid character, excels in prose more so than poetry.
>>24986733>No he doesn'tYes he does, nigger.>Modern poetsWho famously suck ass.
is better than hanging out on /lit/.Nerds are the problem. 4chan was alive while the key contingent was transgressive and edgy, and died when it became autistic and fearful.These days I drink and philosophies and get into various trouble in balkan bars, that's my 4chan. You lot are legit gay and castrated and retarded. You will lose the game of life in every sense of the word.Balkan dive bars are the new 4chan
>>24986241You sounds so preteen right now.
>>24986245>gay snarkKeep trying, fag. Tou will NEVER get over the way the physical world belongs to people who are unlike you. TIt will hurt you to the end of your days.
>>24986101You don't have it in you to hurt a literary boy like myself.
>>24986226>>24986101Can't tell if LARP or just some genuine Slavic subhuman. Engels was right about your "people"
>>24987139The future is Slavic. Foe you, just the end-stage mouse utopia
A good 95% of independent bookstores aren't actually for people who read, they're for tourists and rich "shop local" liberals who like the "cozy aesthetic", and they mostly sell trash that you could get on Amazon for 50% cheaper. I hope Bezos puts them all out of business. Fuck you and fuck your locally owned chunguscore Instagram bookstore. Let only the true, used bookstores owned by some 90 year old who clearly doesn't want you there survive.
you‘re not making any sense, the things you‘re critiquing would be even worse if amazon took over and local bookstores became less. the problem are big chain stores, monopolies, capitalism. if you want the used bookstores owned by old grim people to survive, you are gonna have to stop buying books on the internet, especially on amazon. you seem to think you‘re better than the people you‘re describing but at the end of the day they‘re still the ones keeping local bookstores alive, and if more people like you shopped there instead of amazon, maybe they would be more to your taste.
>>24987147>MaoistYou must live here because you literally nailed it and yes antifa, and feminists as well
>>24987048Really?
>>24987200Damn just nuke the entire city off the map
>>24987196>capitalism Skill issue, commie
