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I find myself sympathetic to Tyler. Mormon cult parents, a homophobic society, autistic. And then you have a toxic fascist society that wants to feed him to the wolves.

What other stories are told from the perspective of those hated by an evil blood thirsty corrupt society. I’m aware of the Jesus and the New Testament gospels along with Grendel. Any other suggestions?
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>>24734501
you're not.
autists are split between devotion to objective truth and devotion to subjective truth.
the former knows homosexuality cannot be inherited, only transmitted. if gay genes ever showed up they'd die out near-immediately. if the former is gay himself he'd lock himself away and do physics equations like Newton or maybe Turing.
the latter just goes REEEE you are trying to ERASE ME!!
t. autist
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>>24735972
I don't even care if they say "I really don't give a shit, I never cared for that christcuck". I've said it myself.
Employers should care if they are literally celebrating that someone got shot or, worse, are encouraging violence against others.
>but but but hate!
No, what you heard from Kirk was disagreement.
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Is it true that Lance is already cheating on him? That bitch.
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>>24734499
Absolutely not a flex. Leftoids commit more political violence because they’re mentally ill losers, period. You’ve got nothing to lose and you’re extremely online, replacing anything good or productive in your life with bluesky and reddit echo chambers. I’m not going to go on a shooting spree because I’m not a mentally ill freak, plus I actually have something to lose.
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>>24734479
the problem with this is that leftoids are so incredibly banal. The story from the perspective of the monster would just be your bluesky feed, plus r/Iwanttofuckdogs or whatever faggot fetish you have

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>On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, The point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning, Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Muhammad forced others to become his followers by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on the part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimonies of the Old and New Testaments by making them into fabrications of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place any faith in his words believe foolishly.
>https://isidore.co/aquinas/ContraGentiles1.htm#6
how do you respond to this TRVKE without sounding mad?
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It is an ignorant view of Islam. Muslims forbid many carnal pleasures that Christians do not. Islam is not a sect, it is a religion and the Truth of God from His prophets.

Additionally, Islam is congruent with the Gospel and is the way and example of Jesus Christ, salallahu alayhi wa salam. The Gospel instructs us to worship God and God alone. This is the clear First Commandment. Did Jesus Christ, salallahu alayhi wa salam, worship himself or instruct you to do the same at any point? No, very much the opposite, he worshiped God and God alone and taught his followers to do the same.

There is your Islamic response, but I won't be here much longer as there is too much Haram even here. It is hard to have a real intellectual discussion between all the degeneracy and racist obsession. Besides, lets be serious. The cartoons and "TRVKEs" I am too old for this. I am 30 now.

Did Jesus Christ, salallahu alayhi wa salam, not also teach in the Gospel that to look at a woman lustfully is to commit adultery in the heart? Muslims follow this by the practice of modesty, to dress like Mary in her time, and to avert the eyes from immodest women.

>>24740957

The Koran praises Christian priests and monks directly and classifies them as People of the Book. We do not deny that Christians are believers. A Christian is not a kafir, a disbeliever. It is by the name of Jesus Christ, salallahu alayhi wa salam, that the Koran says Christians are our closest spiritual brothers.

Though I preach Islam to Christians, I do not condemn them or seek enmity with them. After all, we share a common enemy in the church bombing zionist imperialists. If you will not become a Muslim, then I can still consider you as a God believer and a friend. If you are a Muslim, then you are my brother.
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>>24741188
>Muslims forbid many carnal pleasures that Christians do not.
Like? Muslims trade pork for sex slave to coom into.
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>>24740957
>>24741188
1. First and foremost, their first and greatest error that ought to be cursed is that they deny the Trinity in the unity of the deity, and in this way, while shunning number in unity, they do not believe in a triune number of persons in the one essence of divinity, while I say that the beginning and end of all forms is ternary; and thus they do not receive the cause and origin and goal of all things that are formed; although confessing God with their lips, they do not know him in a profound way. These foolish ones, these inconstant ones, confess that there is a principle for change and for every difference, to wit one that is only binary in unity, namely the divine essence itself, and its life (anima). For this reason the Qur’an—by which name they call their law, and Qur’an, translated from Arabic, means a collection of precepts—always introduces God speaking in the plural.
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8. Clearly that impious man did so when, while commending both the Christian and the Jewish religion (lex), confirming that neither one ought to be embraced, he rejected them while proving himself reprobate. For this reason he confirms that Moses was the best prophet, that Christ the Lord was greater than all, proclaims that he [Christ] was born of a virgin, confesses that he was the messenger of God, the word of God, the spirit of God, yet he does not understand or confess [Christ as] the messenger, Word, or Spirit as we do. Actually, he ridicules [the Christian teaching] that he is said or believed to be the Son of God. And, measuring the eternal birth of the Son of God in comparison to human generation, the bovine man denies and mocks with as much effort as he can that God could have either begotten or been begotten. With frequent repetition he affirms the resurrection of the flesh; he does not deny that there is a general judgment at the end of time, but it must be carried out not by Christ but by God. He insanely affirms that Christ, as the greatest of all after God, will be present at that judgment and that he himself will be present to assist his people
>Summa totius haeresis Saracenorum
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>>24738779
Yes, but the church of Aquinas did the same thing. Kind of a self-own.
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>>24741188
Jesus says only those who eat His body will have eternal life. Does Islam follow that? No. What prophets exist in the Biblical tradition in the 800 years between Christ and Muhammed? None. When does Jesus foretell Muhammed? He does not. The Paraclete is the Catholic Church and Muhammed is obviously an anti-Christ at best. I think it's pretty staggeringly obvious that if Jesus is born of a Virgin then he's more authoritative than Muhammed pretty much obviously. Muhammed is not, was not, nor can ever be considered a prophet. That being said, many of the Hadiths have incredible vignets of wisdom but the Qu'ran is an absolute embarrassment to humanity and pretty much proves why Muslims flee their countries to go to Christendom and Christians only go to Muslim countries as a curioso in seeing how humans could fall for the obviously incorrect, like Mormons or Scientologists.

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Is Freemasonry a path to enlightenment?
I've always thought it was a satanic cult, but that's what everyone thinks. I'd be willing to give it a shot, it wouldn't be the first time I realized that everyone is wrong about something
Is it really all allegories and teachings of Luciferianism?
I haven't read any literature on Freemasonry, except Secret Teachings Of All Ages by Manly Hall, but desu i didnt really understand much of what i read in that book
is there like a chart or something for getting into freemasonry literature? i'm not sure i was meant to start off with Secret Teachings by Manly Hall, it just didn't seem very entry level
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>>24737739
Occultism and esoterica is anti-intellectual fraud. Complete and utter nonsense. Controlled opposition at best nothing more. Remove yourselves, dilettantes.
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>>24737739
>I'd be willing to give it a shot
It's called a secret society because you can't just read books to learn what they teach, you have to actually be initiated. And you're not going to be initiated, it's for rich, powerful people.
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>>24737739
>I've always thought it was a satanic cult
11 Popes agree
>Enlightenment
Eating Jesus is more powerful than whatever that is supposed to be or mean.
>>24740774
Wow they literally dressed as a burnable heretics. Insanity.
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>>24742005

lmao what? my dad literally joined out of the blue years ago and it's just a social club
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>>24742018
I said you're not going to be initiated. There's a difference between joining and being initiated.
>it's just a social club
Yeah, for people like your dad. Not for those who get initiated.

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How come so many opera singers have curly hair?
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>>24741911
Vocal cord vibrations influencing scalp. That’s my theory.

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I miss him so much bros..
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he was never gonna fuck you
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>>24741298
Why'd he pick a man with no experience chopping heads off to chop his head off? That'd be like the second or third question I asked. Only thing that would've made that story better would be if the commander they'd taken hostage stood up and said "quit getting blood all over my office dammit gimme that" and takes his head off with one clean stroke.
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>>24741979
Yes yes but what was his cat's name?

I came across Fowles recently. I really dig his prose. What do you think about Fowles?
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>>24741914
>watching interracial porn while fingering my own asshole and moaning girlishly to own the chuds
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Love it, plan to read The Collector soon and we'll probably get to The French Lieutenant's woman next year
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>>24741906
FLW is a pretty great book, and a really witty take on its idea. The Magus is pretty self indulgent, though it's a shame cuckedanons are too terminally online to think straight about it
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>>24741986
The god game goes on a bit too long, that's my only real complaint about it's indulgences.
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>>24741906
Why did the goat man plow the girl?

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Its amazing how you can take the greatest literary works of all time, some taking years if not decades to write, and make them look like shitty college psychology textbooks.
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>>24719947
curious isn't it
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AI image generation software, please free us from this hell of professionally designed cover art.
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This thread has too much whining and not enough good covers
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>implying people read
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>>24720130
All 12 of those covers are dogshit.

>>24720766
And the version on the newer release has been clipartified and rendered soulless.

>>24720914
These are ugly and garish, but the worst thing about them is that they are really just a cheap facsimile of hardcover designs of the 19th century, which had intricate relief and were covered in gilt. Pic related are some real 19th century children's books.

>>24722332
You're clueless

>>24729065
This


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Posting a personal favorite

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Every one of my actions reflect Clamence's words, I'm able to come so far as to come to terms with the absurdity of the world, but not the immorality of my own actions, I'm deeply unsettled about having hurt people and I don't see a way out. I've read sisyphus.

Is Chinese President Xi Jinping right?
>inb4 define objective reality

>Of all things in the world, metaphysics requires the least amount of effort; as it is neither based on nor subjected to the test of objective reality, people can talk as much nonsense as they like. Upholding materialistic dialectics, in contrast, demands a high level of genuine effort. On the one hand, we should strengthen investigation and research to accurately understand objective reality and truly grasp objective laws. On the other hand, we should continue to observe things dynamically, not statically; holistically, not one-dimensionally; systematically, not fragmentally; and in context, not in isolation, with a view to properly handling various major relationships. All subjectivist, formalist, mechanistic, dogmatist, and empiricist views are metaphysical ways of thinking, and cannot produce positive results in practice.

Source: https://www.ccdpch.com/dialectical-materialism-is-the-worldview-and-methodology-of-chinese-communists/
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>>24741451
NTA but No
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>>24740455
We already have all that here but at least their government provides upward mobility and makes their people richer. With none of this democratic bullshit gunging up the government.
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>>24740148
>people can talk as much nonsense as they like
thank you based xi for the permission.
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>>24740340
Hu is.
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>>24740148
>inb4 define objective reality
>I reject metaphysics while making tons of metaphysical claims and presupposing its truth, but lemme cook for a minute
I'm good. It's like reading those moral relativists who say what we should (read: ought to) pursue is economic progress or stability or some other arbitrary nonsense.

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24729043

>Thread Question:
Do you need supplementary material to enjoy books? I'm talking art, music, etc. based on the property? Does it help you visualize what you've read better?
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>>24741683
Passage at Arms by Glen Cook
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>>24741260
Cover design can really make or break a boo, huh?
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>>24741948
The first edition cover is my favourite. It reminds me of those mythology retellings for kids.
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>>24740187
2, 5, 6, 8, 12
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>>24741435
Surprinsingly not yet, did see it on a couple of lists. Downloaded now, thanks anon.

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What are some genuinely fun books
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>>24740933
>wow, what a coincidence, both books are titled "anything"...
Is suicide my only option?
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>>24741820
Read Leave it to Psmith instead of killing yourself
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>>24740922
harry potter
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>>24741920
Is that part of the Leave It to Beaver shared universe?
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>>24740922
The Good Soldier Svejk

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Especially during 2010-2020 it's literally the White Guilt the book
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>>24740639
Because Elric is a whiny bitch. He may have a cool aesthetic, but that's about it. The stories about Corum were way cooler.
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>AAAAA, ARIOCH! MY SNOW WHITE CHEEKS ARE BEING SPREAD BY THIS APE CHIMERA! ARIOCH, AID ME NOW!
>Ah, Elric, dearest slave, I see you are having your fill of Theleb K'aarrna. Or more precisely, I might say your filling of the Ape Whose Speed Shall Never Be Spent.
>It is so.
>Alas, child of chaos, now is not a good time for me. There are queer happenings I must attend to with my fullest attention. Even now you keep me far too long. You shall not have my aid but you have my blessing. Good luck.
>Moonglum anchored his brows, giving him the look of bear provoked out of a deep slumber, "Fat help he was."
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Oh great. Our daily dose of "Don't Read dis!!"
Fuck off, frogposters.
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Elric's complex character
>Yeah i killed the white race u mad?
>nooo i didn't kill him. stormbringer did.
>Arioch save me
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>>24740639
Because Stormbringer

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are they out of their minds?
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>>24732357
Did not expect Ojama to be in this thread
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>>24741578
you're underage
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>>24741250
You didn't answer the rest of what I said. How can a religion that promotes contempt towards others and aims to erase their identity allow all those "minorities" to live among them and practice their faith?

>Did you ''forget'' what the crusades were a reaction to
Whatever the reason, what was Christ like about the acts committed?
Instead, you got schooled in morality and virtue by Saladin and his crew, he could've slaughtered all of you but he let you leave. Because he followed the Islamic laws of war.

>>24741504
>ISIS
funded by the US/Israel to destabilize the region. They killed more Muslims than "infidels"

>AQ and French beheadings
You wanna talk about atrocities committed by Christians in the recent era?

>>24739541

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>>24741594
Good one, saar. The shorter the response, the less likely you’ll slip up as an ESL. You should probably scrape that curry off your teeth before you continue speaking. I’ll give you some time.
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>>24741596
What happens to non-dhimmis? Pagans? Hindus? Oh yeah you chop their heads off.

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I compared it to ancient Greek literature and I just see the Hebrew Bible as totally devoid of empathy except in Genesis. The Greeks acknowledged and depicted the brutality of war but there is always a sense of the suffering that the losers have to go through, even when they’re the enemies of the Greeks. In the Hebrew Bible it’s just so psychopathic toward people the Jews are fighting and unrelentingly vindictive like, “blessed is he who smashes thy little ones’ heads against the stones.”
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>>24741327
It's a term of convenience for the northern branch of Canaanite culture that survived the Bronze Age collapse. Just because they didn't call themselves Phoenician doesn't mean they didn't exist.
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>>24741293
I never thought about it, but you are kind of right. The illiad shows the enemy Trojans in a sympathetic light.

Greek myths show the gods as cruel and kind of arbitrary, but they are not the source of moral rules.

The Bible never shows the enemies of Israel as human, they are either cruel tools of Yahweh's vengeance against his people or vermin to be exterminated.

I guess that the greeks were a joyful, successful conquering race unlike the conquered, humillated israelities seething with resentment and dreams of power and vengeance.
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>>24741293
Think about the way history turned out. The whole reason that Christianity and the New Testament exist in the first place was to supersede the mentalities seen in the Old Testament such as where Joshua is explicitly called to murder every living Canaanite soul including infants. It totally inverted the scripture and understandably said that this was not the correct way to live. Thousands of years later after Christianity transformed the globe and its adherents outnumbered Jews exponentially, Christians are now in a position of serving the Jews as they enact another mass slaughter against a different tribe while citing the Old Testament as inspiration

In the end the cold brutal myths of Judaism ended up winning out over all other religions and worldviews. They made Christians, the very people who arose to topple the depravity of the Jews, bend the knee to them despite their exceedingly small number. Power and violence are all that matters, any time spent scrutinizing those things will plunge you into failure. Jews are the only ones to understand this and it's why they survive past all the shit they get for being the way they are.
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>>24741513
To me, Judaism is very passive-aggressive toward God, the constant exploiting of loopholes reminds me of a slave deliberately misconstruing what his master orders but in a way his master can’t obviously blame him. There is this tension throughout the Hebrew Bible of a sort of resentment toward God, despite believing in him. Christianity takes God and makes him suffer what humans have to go through, thereby transforming him from an object of resentment into an object of pity. Still the vindictiveness is there but it is taken from this world and placed in the next. Instead of a psychopathic, dehumanizing bloodlust here, there is the consolation of everlasting torture
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/pol/ has ruined this board beyond repair

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