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What's a good book to start with Jung? I'm already familiar with psychoanalysis.

I am mainly interested in dream analysis and archetypes, but I have researched and found that Man and His Symbols was not written by him personally, but by his assistants, and is actually a simple introduction.
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modern man in search of a soul
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>>24951656
complete works vol 9
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>>24951656
Jordan peterson lectures as warmup

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Man, you're right, Aristotleanon. Christian apologists are the worst when it comes to anally raping the Aristotelian corpus beyond recognition. They don't fucking understand anything. They don't understand dunamis, they don't understand energeia, they don't understand Metaphysics Zeta, they don't understand syllogisms, and they definitely do not understand the four causes.

I just had apologist tell me, definitively, that Palamas was a top scholar of Aristotle (lmfao), and that De Anima isn't about life at all, since according to Palamas, only human beings have life because you somehow need "intelligence" to be "self-subsistent" (fucking LOL). Even when you read Aquinas's commentary on passages like the controversial active intellect, you can see him at pains to make the active intellect cohere with the passive intellect into one united soul. And then he fails to do so. But then magically says "but it has to be the case, and so it is." I ask another apologist, is an intellect which becomes everything, something which changes or otherwise remains as it is? And obviously, they short-circuit. Because obviously, that's the kind of intellect that we have, and it can't be active in any pure sense. So Aquinas is wrong and our intellects are perishable in the sense that it is soul. Oh the horror!!!

These fucks have absolutely destroyed Peripatetic commentary throughout history, and they polluted literally everything, especially the translations, with the most hamfisted articulations possible to the point where intelligent conversations with them are not possible. Their brains are wrapped in verbal poison. If you ever get caught up in it, you basically have to spend years unlearning Scholastic hackery as it pertains to the deepest parts of the Aristotelian thought to even have a CHANCE at beginning to understand its depths.
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>>24949228
It’s just something I’ve seen repeatedly over the years to the point where I suspect it’s become a staple of unofficial and online apologetics.
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Test
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>>24949116
You’re being absurdity pedantic. First of all, I couldn’t care less about Palamas and what he actually thought. The only thing I care about is Aristotle. Second, the only reason I even bring this passage up is because it was brought up *to me by someone else* as an example of Aristotelian-style thinking from him. The only thing I’ve claimed is that, to the extent that soul, life, essence, activity, etc., operate the way they operate in that passage, it’s clear to me that it’s not Aristotelian. That is the only point that matters to me. Third, whatever that analogy was trying to communicate, it was abysmally executed because the passage seems to operate in a proto Cartesian-esque because it treats the soul as a separate thing from the body (for obvious reasons). He could have picked a much better example.

Just an obnoxious comment all around, his comment and yours.
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Bump.
I'm reading the Metaphysics.
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OP al-Farabi writes in the Art of Happiness about how the philosopher naturally seeks a community. In 10th century Syria you could easily find other irl autists to talk about Aristotle with. People knew he was based and any educated man was studying him. Nowadays - certainly no one irl. So you go online and lo and behold everyone is fucking retarded, hostile and ignorant. Philosophy is about discourse but it’s become extremely isolating, unless maybe you’re in academia. Notice how the larpers itt think of philosophy as an inert matter to be taken up and transformed arbitrarily by religion. This is really a form of atheism.

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>reading up on The Battle of Yarmuk
He had ONE JOB.
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>>24951816
He wasn't even there for it. It was three separate armies conducting a campaign in tandem.
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>>24951816
Judgement from Providence for monophysitism. Syria perdita est.
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>>24951824
>God initiated the Muslim takeover of half the world
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>>24951816
I'm not saying I fully believe in the "Phantom Time Hypothesis" or whatever, but it's very clear to me that all history from this period is very unreliable, and the only reasons historians generally accept all these narratives of Roman decline and Islam's rise is because it's convenient for them.
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>>24951831
>because it's convenient for (((them))).

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>Cat's Cradle
>Quetzalcoatl

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Other than A Christmas Carol. What are the must read Christmas literature?
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The other Dickens Christmas stories
The Nutcracker by Dumas
Rock Crystal by Stifter
Christmas at Thompson Hall by Trollope

There's also The Nutcracker and the Mouse King by Hoffmann and The Night Before Christmas by Gogol that I haven't read yet

The rest are mostly very short
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>>24951717
Nothing Lasts Forever by Thorpe
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Jesus in the Talmud by Peter Schäfer
So you know where Jesus is immersed right now and don't have to follow him

2025 is almost over. What's the best book you read this year?
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>>24951740
>Eckermann's Goethe
Any favorite tidbits? I've been meaning to get around to it, but I'm waiting until I finish Wilhelm Meister.
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>>24947496
>no country for old men
>>24947564
>Suttree
If you haven't yet, All the Pretty Horses and Blood Meridian are must reads
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>>24947281
Du côté de chez Swann
Extension du domaine de la lutte
Apologie de Raymond Sebond
Les Fleurs du mal
Complete Stories of Poe

I’m not going to lie, I read them all in English. I seriously need to fix my French learning schedule.
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>>24949595
FUCK yes
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>>24951773
Here are a few bits i liked:

"Beranger, by contrast, is utterly self-sufficient as a writer. This is why he has never served any party. He finds so much fulfillment in his own thoughts and feelings that the world can give nothing to him and take nothing from him." "An incident from our life is worth recording not because it is true, but because it meant something." "Error belongs to libraries, truth to the human mind. Books beget more books, but the study of living primordial laws is pleasing to the mind that can grasp the simple, disentangle the complex, and bring light into darkness." "The approach I adopted more than forty years ago is still valid: one is led through all the labyrinthine twists and turns of the comprehensible until one comes up against the incomprehensible - at which point, having learned a great deal, one can happily content oneself with that. None of your philosophers, ancient or modern, has managed to go any further." "The story of Napoleon shows us how dangerous it is to exalt oneself to the realm of the absolute, and to sacrifice everything to the pursuit of an idea." "we should not get hung up on one particular thing and try to turn it into the ultimate ideal. We must not think that Chinese literature is everything, or Serbian literature, or Calderon. or the Nibelungen; if we are looking for the ultimate ideal, then we need to go back everytime to the ancient Greeks, in whose works the finest human qualities are always represented. We must regard all the rest as just the product of its times, and take from it such good things we can find."

I have at least a dozen more but ill stop there.

>short but complex enough to hold your attention
>Easy to read without the dumbed down low IQ prose slop of modern fantasy
>no political correctness
Start with the pulps
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>>24949905
>the dumbed down low IQ prose slop of modern
I don't think you know what those words mean and that's why you hide them in a greentext faux-quote.

>Start with the pulps
Put the pulps in the scifi/fantasy general if you want clicks
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>>24949905
First poster is an estrogenic ass faggot. Yes OP, you're right. It's nice to read high quality short stories. It helped my zoomie attention span too.
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>>24949905
Conan rules! I must write pulp and more stories like Conan.

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>"They dance so languorously, the women of Syria. I knew then in Jerusalem a Jewess who, in a hovel, by the light of a small smoky lamp, on a bad carpet, danced raising her arms to clash her cymbals. Her back arched, her head thrown back and as if dragged down by her heavy auburn hair, her eyes drowned in voluptuousness, ardent and languishing, supple, she'd have made Cleopatra herself pale with envy. I loved her barbaric dances, her slightly husky and yet so sweet singing, the smell of her incense, the semi-sleeping state she seemed to live in. I followed her everywhere. I mixed in with the vile crowd of soldiers, boatmen and publicans she was surrounded with. One day she disappeared and I never saw her again. I looked for a long time for her in doubtful alleyways and taverns. She was harder for me to do without than Greek wine. A few months after I had lost track of her, I learned, quite by chance, that she had joined a small group of men and women who were followers of a young Galilean miracle worker. He was called Jesus, came from Nazareth, and was crucified, for what crime I don't know. Do you remember that man, Pontius?"
>Pontius Pilate frowned, bringing his hand to his forehead like someone who is trying to remember. Then, after a few moments of silence, he murmured:
>"Jesus. Jesus. From Nazareth? No. I can't bring him to mind."
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>>24944367
Jews were nowhere near as small an ethnic group back then as you probably think they were, they made up like 10 percent of the empire's populaton which meant millions even back then. And by roman standards their religion was seen not unlike the way non-deluded westerners see islam nowadays.

And if you know how jews think of gentile westerners now, you know how the average jew thought of romans back then. Having millions of people adhering to a religion in your empire that think only they are truly human and everyone else are subhuman helots made by their god to serve them is basically a recipe for disaster.
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>>24948635
jews were never a tiny ethnic group up until the post-ww2 era
eastern europe was full of them in the 19th century
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>>24943625
I bet he remembered when he got to Hell though. Although the reference isn't totally clear, Dante seems to have in the vestibule of Hell, amongst those who failed to choose a side between good and evil.
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>>24943625
He would've remembered Jesus if he had had a big black cock. Just sayin'.
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>>24943625
>quid est veritas
It's literally an anagram: est vir qui adest ("It is the man who is here"

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I can't remember anything this guy said.
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>>24948663
He looks like he's lacking basic nutrients and a balanced diet, he looks underslept, he looks pale like he hasnt been outside for months, he has bags under his eyes like hes been staring at screens all day every day
He looks sick
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>>24951053
*"SNIFFPH! And so forth"
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>>24948671
I read the Penguin volume of his essays and thought most of it was pure garbage, but this is actually good. What do I read of Schopenhauer to get more like this, and less "life is le bad" crap?
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>>24948663
"I'll dig your mother from the grave and fuck her". Seriously.
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>>24948663

Unwilling Eldritch Horror of Slop Edition

Stubbed >>24943213

>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24951718
Putting a loredump in my dialogue that I don't plan to ever reference after the chapter ends...
perfect
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>>24951723
I self edited that
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>>24951718
>air and earth are up and down but fire and water aren't left and right
gay
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>>24951512
>>24951581
>>24951614
Thanks, I'll check them out
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>>24950445
Same here. It's happened to me so many times I wonder how any writer has ever gotten anything done ever.
This is one of those instances in which trad publishing beats webnovel serials, you only have to drag yourself through the hell of writing 200 pages and that,s it whereas writing ad infinitum lasts until you Hemingway yourself.

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>The Lord of the Rings is often erroneously called a trilogy, when it is in fact a single novel consisting of six books plus appendices, sometimes published in three volumes.
-Note on the text, Douglas A. Anderson, 1993

What is a book, as Anderson (and presumably Tolkien) means it? For me naively a book and a bound volume is the same thing. Did Tolkien intend for the Lord of the Rings to be published as six books? Wouldn't that make it a hexalogy?
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>>24951767
The three-volume split was imposed by his publisher Allen & Unwin for practical post-war economic reasons (paper was expensive, and a single massive volume would have been too expensive). Tolkien didn't want this.
>Six books
When Anderson (and Tolkien himself) use the word "book" they're using it in the older, classical sense, like the way Homer's Iliad has 24 "books" or Virgil's Aeneid has 12 "books."
>Hexalogy
It wouldn't be a hexalogy because those six books aren't six independent works—they're divisions within one work, just as the Aeneid isn't a "dodecalogy." A trilogy or hexalogy implies separate, complete narratives that form a series. Tolkien's work is formally one story divided for publishing reasons.
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>>24951780
>the older, classical sense,
Meaning?
>like the way Homer's Iliad has 24 "books" or Virgil's Aeneid has 12 "books."
More examples doesn't answer my question. What is a book?
>because those [...] books aren't six independent works
Isn't that what makes things trilogies? They're _connected_ works. If they're independent works there's nothing linking them into a trilogy.

I am ignorant of the Eastern ways. What is the point to negating every point and entering complete dissolution from being? Why is annihilation the good if we can't even have a good? Or am I misunderstanding the Buddha.
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A true intellectual understanding of concepts like emptiness does not occur until you have made some spiritual progress. This either requires you to have a teacher who can train you, or you follow a western path first then jump over once you're ready.
For now, practise being mindful and meditate. The concept of "ichigo zammai" will be useful, as well as zen stuff as a whole. You need to experience things, not just thinkcel about it.
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>>24951049
How do I experience things?
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Annihilation isn't the goal of Taoism
In Taoism you're supposed to extend your life as far as possible

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Who's up for a good ol' fashioned stack/recent cops thread?
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I haven't opened most of these because I'm staying with my in-laws for a few weeks.
The books wrapped up are Playwrights of Tomorrow 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13.
The Japanese books was written by a local bookseller, and recommended by one of my favorites booksellers in the city. It dives into the world of second hand bookstores and how to run one of them. I'll read it with Google Translate.
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>>24950784
The Bible is the foundation to any serious reading program.
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>>24950805
This guy has a neo-vagina.
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>>24945672

>A book about the celebration of Jewish thinking is titled "To Life!"
>Jewish thought is defined by extinguishing the life of the people you stole land from

Pottery
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>>24942138
Garbage


>>24943238
Poverty shelf. Did you model your life on will hunting? How about them apples?

>>24945672
A mitzvah

>>24945672
Best stack by far

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I write for illiterates.
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>>24950803
ok, John Green.
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>>24950803
This is unironically what MrBeast does.
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>>24951675
>MrBeast
MrBeast makes videos, retard.
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>>24950803
Non canimus surdis.
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>>24951699
Gen Alpha watches silently with subtitles. He notoriously employs a rather large text publishing team to make them better than the standard YouTube auto CC.

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What did I think?
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>>24947559
This is not a black space.
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>>24947736
Green eggs and han only used 50 words
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>>24948764
"how the grinch ruined christmas" sounds a lot more gay
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>>24951693
"How the Grinch violated the NAP"
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>>24948764
Wait until you read the Neverending Story.


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