On the genealogy of morals - the scarpitti/etc translation says this which is fucking GAY. I want to read in a similar structure to the original with his schizo newly created words not this gay "errmmm we made it accessible and made it flow better sweetie" bullshit.Is there a REAL translation you could recommend?
I read Common for Zarathustra and liked it well enough. I hear Ludovici is also good. The important thing is that neither has infamously made efforts to retcon Nietzsche into a modern-friendly ideology, like Kaufmann.
Take the "in the original" pill. You will always be cucked when choosing to read what is essentially fanfiction.
>>24954201neetche said the jews are the master race though
>>24954212Thanks, Kaufmann it is->>24954201Oh shit *does a 360 spin and walks away*
>>24954256I agree but I ain't gonna bother learning French or whatever the OG was ya feel?>>24954220I thought kaufmann kept the original feel tho unlike OP picrel
This book changed my life for the better
>>24954242Enjoy your throat cancer, fag
>>24953481and yet you replied to one
>>24952628Sex is attainable but not for me.
>>24952552Women are weak and their self-reporting when it comes to pain should be taken with a grain of salt.
Why are women so uncoordinated? Even their "professional" athletes flop around like kids.
What’s the male version of this? I’m tired as fuck
>>24950524So you think it's a pure coincidence that statistically a higher % of men than women don't have sex and a higher % of men than women has no children?
real answer is Houellebecq's extension du domaine de la lutte
Great novel. Best of the century, even.
Fight Club
Can a woman explain what makes this novel feminine and a girls book compared to “male literature”? I’m not kiddingWhat’s the distinction beyond it being written by a woman about a female character
How to get into Henry James? What do I start with? Pound said only to read The Sacred Fount after about 20 of James' novels...
>>24952725Here you go, anon. Some nice anon made this a couple of years ago and I used it to get into James. Have read all his works now and can confirm this is the way to go
>>24952804>inferiority of his charactersMeant interiority.>>24952866Hope you enjoy it.
Why don't Europeans like him? I'm a euro and he's surprisingly niche on the continent. Don't really know why, he's top tier even by our standards.
Bump for Henry the Great.
So they adapted a Pynchon novel for filmI've never read Pynchon before but like"One Battle After Another" - what the FUCK is this turbo jogger leftist power fanstasy bullshit?I always realized Hollywood is a bunch left-leaning cucks but holy fuck they outdid themselves with this one.The level of blatant propaganda is on par with fucking commie films of Stalin's era or something.This guy made "There will be blood" and now this what the fuck. This movie doesn't even feel real, it's a caricature of a movie.Tell me bros is Pynchon cringe plebbitor shit like that and not based? Le speaking truth to power
>>24946260>it's another "l-liberals aren't leftists!!" copesode
>>24948330Why do you think we love Pynchie?
I just watched his previous movie before this one and damn, it was pretty bad. I didn't know PTA had fallen off so hard. Might not even watch One Battle After Another
>>24946217PTA hasn't made a good film since The Master.
>>24946260>isn’t that it’s left wing (boring and incorrect observation moron)>its ultimate product in the daughter being a No Kings liberal protestor at the end of the filmWhat a retard that anon is, eh?
Ἁλικαρνασσόθεν edition>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>24877858>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
>tfw listen to Attic Greek after listening to modern Greek for months
are these correct?A) Pueri, legite libros poetarum bonorum!B) Serva pirum magnam horti (aqua) rigat.C) Pulchrae plantae agri agricolas laetos delectant.did it for an exercise
>>24950303I bought a physical copy on Amazon. You're not missing out on much. The story and characters are not very interesting. The print is hard to read (gray main text with light gray margin text). If you're looking for a beginner-level reader, I don't think it's especially well suited for that purpose, and it's not even macronized. I enjoyed it more as a novelty than anything.
>>24953984Looks probably good enough to me. I'm assuming the prompts were something like this.A) Boys, read the books of the good poets!B) The slavewoman waters the great pear tree of the garden.C) The beautiful pants of the field delight the happy farmers.
>>24953984almost perfect, but in one of them you made a noun-adjective agreement error
Doubting Shakespeare's authorship is a very cheap way to, I guess, look intelligent. I wouldn't call it intelligence because my brain is far too advanced, I'm too smart, to doubt Shakespeare's authorship. I know you're sitting there going>Smart people know de Vere was using a pseudonym!No. I need a commoner, I need the son of a glovemaker, in my life to feel content. I need him to be writing greatest literature without a fucking education, having illiterate parents, and small Latin and less Greek. I can't just sit there,>Oh, and Francis Bacon left a hidden cipher!:/It's for people with slow brains.
>>24954326We have all seen the Andrew tate retard, I thought the new captcha was supposed to keep people like you out
>Niggers nagged niggardly over the kingly kangs of the Kush. Bix: muh dicks: noods; the alarm shirekpiercingly sounded in the crip's crib.
>>24954346And the World's Smartest Black Person Award goes to...
"Chanukah" editionPrevious: >>24940898/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
write what you know i guessmy story is about a guy who wants to have friends, family, and community and tries different things to make that happen but it always goes wrong, mostly his own fuckups, eventually a middle aged black woman takes him in but even she gets sick of his shitalso it takes place in space but idk much about space so I'm making that all up
>>24954044>OP is a F Gardner faOP is F Gardner?
>>24954007I placed on my first time submitting, having cultivated no popularity at all. After reading the competition I think the secret to winning is just to write something that isn't incomprehensible
>finished my victoria story>nobody wants to read it>can't post any of it online because then i can't traditionally publish>3 agents rejected it>terrible with query letters and synopsisWhat do I do? I don't want to throw this into the self-publishing void known as amazon.
>>24954343>I don't want to throw this into the self-publishing void known as amazon.Don't do that, throw it in the trash where it belongs.
Two Weeks Left Edition>Old:>>24936611>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
>>2495316424953164I got 70-80 pages in. That line was just an especially egregious one that I happened to remember.Thanks for the response. If you want to send me the sequel once it's done, I'll at least give it a shot. I have faith in your ability to improve.I will clarify that my problem isn't that there's a lot of focus on worldbuilding, it's that the focus is on worldbuilding and almost nothing else. You can have a lot of worldbuilding woven organically into the story without making the whole thing feel like an exposition dump or the Dungeon Master's Guide. Robert Jordan does a really good job of this in the Wheel of Time novels.
>>24953976I'm going to check on that after I'm done with the dark lord trilogy, I hear the ROTS novelization is one of the best star wars books
>>24953428What can I say? 1980s SF is so boring.
Various science fiction authors discuss the value of their genre:https://youtu.be/crkt1kiNj4E
>>24954202It is. If you want more Sith kino as well, check out Darth Bane.
What does /lit/ think of Hawthorne? Most Americans have either never heard of him or hate him because they were assigned 'The Scarlet Letter' in high school and Amerikkka is an insane asylum, and its public schools are like a suicide ward. But Poe said that "we look upon [Hawthorne] as one of the few men of indisputable genius to whom our country has as yet given birth." And America's second greatest writer, Melville, was deeply respectful of Hawthorne. What does /lit/ say? Is he a great writer, or just great for an American?
>>24954150What do you mean by that desu? That Hawthorne was too "religious" to the point it hindered most of his artistic capabilities in his writings, your comment on him intrigued me about him perhaps I should read one his books to understand the sentiment behind your comment better.
>>24954247Oh brother
>the novel tells the story of Hester Prynne, who conceives a daughter with a man to whom she is not married and then struggles to lead a new life of repentance and dignity. As punishment, she must wear a scarlet letter 'A' (for "adultery"). Oh man those poor women :,( They're just so heckin wholesome and innocent but through no fault of their own life conspires to punish themWomen are always just trying to live wholesome lives of repentance and dignity, and wicked men are branding them or turning them into rape slaves (The Handmaid's Tale) or forced to bury their unchristened bastard children who die in their arms (Tess of the d'Urbervilles).OH WHAT INDIGNITY!Thank goodness that so many generations of high Anglos have picked up the pen to write in their defense. Not like that ridiculous pervert Flaubert. As if a women would ever willingly commit adultery without being forced to by her own innocent naivety, or from circumstances of poverty, or by force, or by a cruel and oppressive society that is simply too rigid and judgmental to understand the pure angelic dignity of women.
>>24954270What I mean is that religious writers like Hawthorne and Milton can’t help but impose their black-and-white good vs. evil moral frameworks on their stories, so that everything winds up cleanly separated into good guys and bad guys and the story always resolves with some kind of edifying religious moral. I prefer godless writers like Shakespeare who present us with complicated and contradictory people struggling in an indifferent universe. To me that’s more interesting and more real. His characters have more depth and don’t feel so much like symbols designed to teach us something. >>24954289Hester isn’t presented as a woman of ‘pure angelic dignity,’ nor is Dimmesdale presented as a wicked corruptive abuser. You should read books before you talk about them, and you should seek therapy to reconcile your hatred for women which presumably stems from their not wanting to touch you
People should read The Blithedale Romance.
When does it get “good?”
>>24952588Rockets are a Cold War motif pointing to the USSR and the US, Blicero was an SS member sure, but also had something or another to do with whites being in South Africa. It's more than just a uniform and Pynchon takes all of these aspects of white countries and puts it into a villain named "Weissman"- literally 'whiteman', then gives him the nickname Blicero meaning "bleaching". It's pretty clear he's talking about all white people being some sort of techno-religious monster. Underneath all of that is this weird series of sexual fiascos which seems to have nothing to do with anything. Pynchon is clearly expressing a discomfort with adjusting to sexual mores and with his own conception of whiteness in the Cold War. You're clearly hoping that passive aggressiveness will give you some sort of out here, but it obviously doesn't. You're just a Europhobic racist yourself.
>>24952646He's not saying "white people bad" you are just trying to make yourself a victim
whats this book about? worth reading?
>>24954046Yes and yes
>>24953938>Weissman doesn't mean whiteman>Blicero meaning bleached isn't a reference to whiteness>Rockets have nothing to do with Cold War ethnicities>SS uniform has nothing to do with Nazis>South African whites being villainized has nothing to do with Europhobic racismMaybe you're a good troll because you got me to respond, but that's quite ridiculous.
I regularly see threads on JP and Zizek but less commonly Jung and rarely Lacan.I have been reading Lacan on and off throughout the year and it has been pretty revelatory to me. If I were to try to take a stab at summarizing Lacan for anons that haven’t studied him, basically everything is fake and gay, anything not fake and gay is real, and >you are a subject beneath the fake and gay but not exactly a 1:1 product of the fake and gay. Your motif should be to recognize that to understand the real through anything fake and gay is impossible, therefore traverse the fake and gay knowing it’s fake and gay in accordance to your desire(TM). If anyone with more experience in Lacanian thought disagrees with my shit take, feel free to correct. Question: Why is Lacan not talked about as often as Freud and Jung are, or perhaps in general? Is his thought too subversive? Is it because he’s French? Pic related, worst mistake of my life
>>24952955He told a bunch of rioting French people a superficial reading of Marx doesn't help. He also offered a new epistemology to critical ones.>1/4 chance to avoid le castration>the 1 option requires constant mutation>the other 3 are always wish fulfillment, hysterics, and constant castration circulationYou have 1 shot.
>>24952819My schizo theory is that CBT doesn't make you feel any better, it just trains you to say you feel better. Wouldn't want to report any negative "distorted" thoughts, after all.
>>24953016Yes indeed. ACT is classified as "3rd wave CBT".>>24953053Quite interesting schizo take, but my own experience tends to be more positive. I found real efficiency in methodically opposing rational, constructive thoughts and actions to forever looping self-harming ones. It actually felt like this is a big part of what mental health is about.And for me, working on changing behavior and automatic thoughts was far more efficient and helpful, even psychologically-wise, that looping endlessly about past events or traumas.
a lot of CBT talk in here
>>24953123I thought I was in the Kafka thread for a sec
>First time reading myth of Er in the Republic>nearly 1:1 retelling of the Christian myth of afterlife judgement, down to virtue vs vice/sin, tribulations and suffering for sinners, and Tartarus/hell for worse offenders>wonderful heaven vistas for the virtuous before choosing ones next Daemon and REINCARNATING>the man who supposedly told this tale died in battle and resurrected>all with same book that the Noble lie was introduced to the Western cannonWTF. Is Christianity just a Platonic noble lie -religion? What are the actual origins to this religion? This isn’t even including other religion and myths ranging with the same motifs that predated Christianity.
>>24954278
>>24954272I wrote everything up knowing that the myth of Er itself is probably influenced by prior narratives as well, hence referencing without stating exactly the other religious and mythological motifs of the time, with Osiris in mind >>24954239. IIRC scholarship also suspects Plato’s mysticism and metaphysics being derived from his trips to Egypt along with mystical Pythagoreanism, these HEAVILY being apparent in the Timaeus, the immediate follow up to the Republic. All of this of course just adds up to Christianity being a chimera crafted by only God knows who during and in the wake of the Roman-Jewish wars.
>>24954285The relevance of whether it's specifically Platonic has to do with whether you're accounting for Christianity as itself Platonic. You seem to be granting that without argument or evidence, you have to be clear about others before concluding that. I would strongly point you in the direction of the following:- Lookig at ancient afterlife myths in general (Sumerian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Egyptian, Zoroastrian).- Philo of Alexandria's Jewish Platonism.- Apocalyptism in general in the Judaism of the relevant period (look at the myriad pseudepigrapha or Dead Sea Scrolls writings), as well as Messianism (see Josephus' history; there were plenty of people claiming to be the Messiah who got killed).- Paul, especially as the most active evangelist outside of Israel. If he's a source, plausible motivation has to be established, some accont needs to be made about his relation to the other apostles, and his apparent willingness to face martydom needs to be faced squarely.These facets are the real minimum that need to be looked at and dealt with before deciding whether Christianity was invented as a medicinal lie (aside: the "noble" lie is only about the birth of the city and the classes in the Republic, the Greek word is literally "well-born"; it's not relevant here), or as natural and believed in as apparently many religions are.
>>24954285You should read Muhammad 'Ata Ur-Rahim's book Jesus, Prophet of Islam. It goes into detail on your suspicions.Basically the religion preached by Jesus was itself a pure monotheism, with a rational worldview and emphasis on resistance (armed if needed) against tyranny. It was co-opted, first by Paul, as a new mask over the old Greco-Roman mystery religions. This bastardized form of Christianity was cemented by the First Council of Nicaea.But the original teachings of Christianity still exist to a certain extent within Islam. There are lots of other rabbit holes you can go down regarding Islam (in particular the Shia-Sunni schism), but while Christianity is undeniably influenced by previous Egyptian magic cults, that shouldn't detract from the teachings of Jesus himself, who was a great man whose existence is well attested to in historical record. Earthly power always tries to co-opt popular religious movements. That doesn't change the fact that a poor Jewish carpenter preaching to a small circle of followers managed to bring the mightiest empire in history to it's knees within a generation.God is more powerful than the schemes of man. Never forget that.
>>24954305My question to you from here is to what extent was the graphing into the mystery religions? Are we truly to suppose that the resurrection occurred, because it seems like the litmus test between layman and philosopher imo.
Need a book for when I have an insomnia spell and can't sleep. I don't want to doomscroll my phone so it seems like a good way to get back into reading.
>>24951120this looks like a solid read
>>24949733Agreed. I wanted to like this and it killed me.
Lovecraft is perfect for this.
>>24953392Agreed.
What you need is an engaging book that is hard to approach. Somehow your brain is interested enough to try to follow it but it takes so much energy you fall asleep pretty quickly.
