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>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>24953428
What can I say? 1980s SF is so boring.
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Various science fiction authors discuss the value of their genre:
https://youtu.be/crkt1kiNj4E
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>>24954202
It is. If you want more Sith kino as well, check out Darth Bane.
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>played warhammer roguetrader and liked it
>played warhammer space marine 2 and liked it
And thats all I know about it. What warhammer novel am I supposed to start reading if I want more about the lore and stuff? All I got was that I should stay away from the horus heresy because its too long and not an introduction.
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>>24954476
Horus Hersey is what you want if you want lore. Gaunts Ghosts for military kino and Eisenhorn is good for inquisition stuff which may relate to the upcoming dark heresy game.

I FOMO bought three of Faulkner's Library of America editions on ebay because the prices were too good but now I'm worried, is this guy actually worth reading?
I got novels 1926-1929, 1930-1935 and stories
I read As I Lay Dying 15 years ago but don't remember much of it besides enjoying it
How difficult will it be to force myself to read Soldiers’ Pay or Mosquitoes for the sake of chronology?

Thoughts on Pyrrhonism?
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>>24950720
Is it similar to iconoclasm?
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>>24951215
I know christcucks are intellectually cowardly violent children but it's still shocking to hear it admitted so openly.
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>>24950720
Pyrrhonism? Hard to say… I’m suspending judgment.
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I would say I don't know, but I'm not even sure of that either.

I'm sure that Stoicfags are dirty dogmatists though
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>>24951215
>he says that the great cacophony of views and dogmas will just drive society to nihilism
>and that, he argues, is justification for enforcing Catholicism and stamping out opposing viewpoints
Based.

Everything else just seems so spooked and retarded. Like these "philosophers" can't even see past their own circumstances or analyze their own thoughts and motivations, only (poorly) justify their own particular neuroses. Has there ever been a half decent attempt at addressing, let alone refuting him?
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You don't have to
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>>24950831
>The law of noncontradiction is also a spook. I reject it.
https://plus.maths.org/content/not-carrot
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For a thing that itself isn’t a spook, mathematics sure attracts a lot of spooked retards.
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>>24947731
You seem underage.
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Believing in a spook without knowing it's a spook can feel kinda nice. It's pretty motivating.

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Behold! The brilliancy of Danielle Chelosky's genius! Terror is one of my favorites from Danielle's little book called Female Loneliness Epidemic, and it is little. It's only 4in by 7in and 0.25in thick
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>>24953313
Nice areola.
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>>24953325
That's not her areola. That's a hickey from some lucky lover sucking on her delectable titties.
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Danielle accidentally sent me a second copy of Female Loneliness Epidemic, KEK you just lost $17 Danielle!
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bumping with a Danielle
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>>24953313
autofiction really is a disease, asinine observations, the worst narcisistic self-pity and ironic detachment to your own life. who even bothers wth this? who cares if literature is relatable? i have books and vinyl records and I fuck and I lead a disordered life like the idea of an artist and I stream of thought my random occurrences to be sold and gawked at and validate my persona to everyone???? who cares, also she has no tits, shes just a little overweight.

>First time reading myth of Er in the Republic
>nearly 1:1 retelling of the Christian myth of afterlife judgement, down to virtue vs vice/sin, tribulations and suffering for sinners, and Tartarus/hell for worse offenders
>wonderful heaven vistas for the virtuous before choosing ones next Daemon and REINCARNATING
>the man who supposedly told this tale died in battle and resurrected
>all with same book that the Noble lie was introduced to the Western cannon
WTF. Is Christianity just a Platonic noble lie
-religion? What are the actual origins to this religion? This isn’t even including other religion and myths ranging with the same motifs that predated Christianity.
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>>24954285
The relevance of whether it's specifically Platonic has to do with whether you're accounting for Christianity as itself Platonic. You seem to be granting that without argument or evidence, you have to be clear about others before concluding that. I would strongly point you in the direction of the following:

- Lookig at ancient afterlife myths in general (Sumerian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Egyptian, Zoroastrian).

- Philo of Alexandria's Jewish Platonism.

- Apocalyptism in general in the Judaism of the relevant period (look at the myriad pseudepigrapha or Dead Sea Scrolls writings), as well as Messianism (see Josephus' history; there were plenty of people claiming to be the Messiah who got killed).

- Paul, especially as the most active evangelist outside of Israel. If he's a source, plausible motivation has to be established, some accont needs to be made about his relation to the other apostles, and his apparent willingness to face martydom needs to be faced squarely.

These facets are the real minimum that need to be looked at and dealt with before deciding whether Christianity was invented as a medicinal lie (aside: the "noble" lie is only about the birth of the city and the classes in the Republic, the Greek word is literally "well-born"; it's not relevant here), or as natural and believed in as apparently many religions are.
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>>24954285
You should read Muhammad 'Ata Ur-Rahim's book Jesus, Prophet of Islam. It goes into detail on your suspicions.
Basically the religion preached by Jesus was itself a pure monotheism, with a rational worldview and emphasis on resistance (armed if needed) against tyranny. It was co-opted, first by Paul, as a new mask over the old Greco-Roman mystery religions. This bastardized form of Christianity was cemented by the First Council of Nicaea.

But the original teachings of Christianity still exist to a certain extent within Islam. There are lots of other rabbit holes you can go down regarding Islam (in particular the Shia-Sunni schism), but while Christianity is undeniably influenced by previous Egyptian magic cults, that shouldn't detract from the teachings of Jesus himself, who was a great man whose existence is well attested to in historical record. Earthly power always tries to co-opt popular religious movements. That doesn't change the fact that a poor Jewish carpenter preaching to a small circle of followers managed to bring the mightiest empire in history to it's knees within a generation.

God is more powerful than the schemes of man. Never forget that.
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>>24954305
My question to you from here is to what extent was the graphing into the mystery religions? Are we truly to suppose that the resurrection occurred, because it seems like the litmus test between layman and philosopher imo.
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>>24954076
Yeah and the myth and the daemon and the afterlife concepts were all received by Plato from the Egyptians. Christianity goes back to prehistory. Surprise surprise.
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>>24954305
Most non-Christian evidence of Jesus is just hearsay. Christianity did take over Rome but it was more than 1 generation.

Sapient Species, Races, and Miscellaneous Sapients Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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>>24952660
I literally don't have a word for it because I'm not sure it's ever happened. It can happen in my world, but my world is science fantasy and the laws of logic don't quite apply to it.
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>>24952674
Some nations like Tonga, Egypt, Liberia come to mind, and others to a lesser degree.
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>>24942328
The first Emperor of would be unified China
Unlike the real Qin Shi Huang, he actually did find the elixir of life.
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>>24942328
It keeps shifting slowly over thousands of years and sometimes suddenly. In the beginning of the story the individual known as the death goddess is probably the strongest, though she hasn't participated in a serious battle in a very long time and has no reason to fight other powerful characters on the same side, so the relative strength between them is always somewhat in the air. The official truth is that the individual known as the king of the gods is the strongest, and he is/was certainly in the top ten and not near the bottom. Meanwhile an underestimated character has been gathering power in the shadows and is now daring to strike against his enemies...

The high-level plot of the story is about this power struggle.
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What might be the best option for cosmic horror:

1. The universe is an eternally recurring system that keeps destroying and rebuilding itself, like the water cycle. The human race is just an irrelevant footnote in this timeless infinity.
2. The universe is nothing more than a dream for a higher being. The moment it awakens, we shall all cease to be. The material world we measure ourselves against is false, and so are all the sciences and achievements of civilization.

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>>24944446
>christopher "pseud-hack" nolan
it's a gay book for faggots, who cares if a dyke translated it?
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>>24945827
she should literally be arrested for this, it's a crime against literature and humanity
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>>24945827
JFC. Current century translation.
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Joke's on midwit nolan because the leaked 5 minutes of footage is a fucking disaster.
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>>24944446
Yo, tell me about that OG hero, Muse, the guy who's been through so much. Like, he's the ultimate survivor.
This dude was out here catching mad Ls, especially when he stormed that sacred city of Troy - total war zone.
He’s seen all the city vibes, met a ton of different peeps, and his brain’s been upgraded from all the crazy stuff he's experienced.
And honestly, he’s been through hell and back in the ocean, dealing with all sorts of savage waves and storms,
fighting for his life and trying to get back to his crew, who are counting on him.

But, no cap, he couldn’t even save his bros, even though he was all about that hero life.
They got wrecked because they were being reckless - straight-up idiots - chowing down on cattle of Hyperion’s Helios, the sun god’s herd.
And that’s what sealed their fate - lost their shot at coming home that day.

So yeah, our guy Odysseus, the OG tactician, he’s out here trying to flex his brains and avoid getting wrecked again.
He’s been roaming around, facing all these epic quests, basically the original "save the world" story but with way more drama.
Every time he thinks he’s got a grip, the chaos hits him again like Epic Plot Twist after Epic Plot Twist.


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Mention here literature according to /lit/ suitable to matriculate as a real /x/-ian. Or if /x/ was /lit/ cohorts first.
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For me it's satanic panic stuff. Michelle Remembers may have been fabricated but SRA totally exists.
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>>24946516
Charles Fort (He started the whole thing)
John Keel (Classic high strangeness material)
Jacques Vallee (Very influential in ufology; his books shifted paradigms several times within that field)
Robert Anton Wilson (for the paranormal angle, not the occult)
Joshua Cutchin (you may not agree with his theories, but he present a lot of interesting stories)
David Paulides (for the most insane Bigfoot stuff)
Nick Redfern (pulpy but all over the place with the paranormal)
Brad Steiger (good compiler of material)
Jerome Clark (Encyclopedic gathering of material)
Graham Hancock (Good batshit take on history and psychedelics)
Whitley Strieber (for cult status alone; the Communion cover is the first anime style picture made in the West)
John Mack (Alien abduction)
Budd Hopkins (Alien abduction; set the current abduction model, iirc)
The two books about Skinwalker Ranch.

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>>24954283
Good shit. Thank you anon.
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Has there ever been a /lit/ version of Incantation?
Whether it be fiction or actual occult texts
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>>24954283
add Charles Upton to this

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>another mid whore catapulted into fame and fortune for existing

That's it. This has gone too far, the woman problem HAS to be addressed now. Simping is an epidemic that is destroying society and it's only going to get worse.
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>>24954020
We dont have jannies
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>>24953753
cutecutecutecuuuuuuuuute
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>>24953989
the greatest minds in history seethed about women
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>>24948013
>>24952302
i bet this is the foid from a council estate who kept spamming that other thread
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>>24954129
hard disagree. all poetry of value is matriarchal in origin.
water to water, ark again to ark,
from woman back to woman

the most venerated poem in the west, the iliad, starts off ‘sing to me, o goddess.’

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Long wait
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>>24954447
even further away
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I would care about this if I thought his books were good, which are in fact, not.
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he won because all the blame went to 2DB, his publisher will release everything after he dies

My professor sent me the following email a while back. I think it would be a good idea to take his advice and write my final paper on one of the three mentioned Romanticists. I think he'll appreciate that I went the extra mile based on his own feedback.

Question is, /lit/: which one should I use?
>Yeats
>Wordsworth
>Coleridge

Two poems I truly enjoyed this semester were "Kubla Khan" and "Sailing to Byzantium." The former has sensational imagery (felt like an influence for Lovecraft's style of prose) and nails the "mystic" tone; the latter is high-minded, cultured, full of promise.

What do anons recommend?
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>>24953389
never heard of any of them

How to get into Henry James? What do I start with? Pound said only to read The Sacred Fount after about 20 of James' novels...
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>>24952804
>inferiority of his characters
Meant interiority.

>>24952866
Hope you enjoy it.
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Why don't Europeans like him? I'm a euro and he's surprisingly niche on the continent. Don't really know why, he's top tier even by our standards.
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Bump for Henry the Great.
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>>24952868
>Have read all his works now
Was it worth it?

>open /lit/
>see same tired “jbp bad” thread for the 900th time
>people who’ve never read a page of his work confidently explaining what he “really believes”
>rightoids hate him because he doesn't spend all day obsessing about jews
>leftists hate him because he knows stalin was a mass murderer and told them to stop buying funko pops o algo
Not even a huge Peterson fan, but it’s wild how triggered people get over a guy telling lost young men to clean their room and take responsibility for their lives. He’s a clinical psychologist with decades of practice and a pretty standard background in personality research, yet somehow he’s treated like some kind of comic book supervillain.
The funniest part is how critics always quote-mine one sentence from a 3-hour lecture, strip all context, and then act shocked when normal people don’t buy the narrative. God forbid someone acknowledges biology and culture at the same time, or says meaning comes from responsibility instead of endless irony and doomscrolling.
Anyway, cue the NPC replies.
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>>24954393
So lit is /adv/.
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>>24954406
Nta but what?
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>>24954425
>fantasizes it's just one person who doesn't hate Jordan Peterson
It's either a chud or a trannie.
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>>24954434
What's the difference?
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>>24954441
Not much.

2025 is almost over. What's the best book you read this year?
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Best Delillo. But if re-reads count it would be The Thief's Journal by Genet.
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>>24947364
What did you enjoy about it?
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Time of Silence by Martin-Santos
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Read quite a few good ones. I'd like to be contrarian and say Spring Snow, but I think A Farewell To Arms was the best book I read this year.
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Old Masters and Young Geniuses

The author creates a conceptual divide between two different types of artist, the "Conceptual innovator" and the "Experimental innovator". The conceptual innovator (Picasso, John Singer Sargent) is the sort of artist who reaches fame rapidly when they are young and gains a lot of critical acclaim, but seems to diminish creatively as they age, whereas the experimental innovator (Cezanne, Monet) is the type of artist whose artistic abilities only increase with time, and often peak at the very end of their lives. In reality, it's less of a binary and more of a spectrum -- these are just the two extremes.

As someone fascinated by the question, "Why do people become less creative as they age?", this was a pretty big deal for me. This topic first came to my attention as a teenager, when I noticed that virtually all the bands/artists I loved peaked before age 30, and fell off hard afterward. This is especially true for certain kinds of music, like emo EPs or metal tapes, where the artists being very young infuses it with a certain kind of magic -- not specifically because they are young, but because all the countless elements in the music itself, from how the guitarists strum their guitars, to how the tape is recorded and mixed, are all aligned perfectly towards a certain vision, and this same thing occurs in the brilliant works of young artists of all kinds. Experimental artists of course work in a radically different way.

I could write a massive essay on this topic, there's so much to go into.


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