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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.

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>>24952308
k
Looking forward to your melty about how much you hate RR readers so I can add it to the collection.
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>>24952301
Are there any examples of a space opera war epics, standalone ]books doing wll on KU? no adventure, McGruffins, a secret weapon/ship to turn tide of war kinda thing
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>>24952313
>if you're good, of course
applies to zero people on /lit/ and if someone like that did exist they wouldn't need RR as a crutch
>patreon and KU, THEN you get amazon ratings and reviews and you can get boosted in the amazon algorithm.
Yeah that's in all the guides in OP, same guides also say don't bother with off-meta
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>>24952216
I feel the same.
I have been reading many works that don't even tell the location, because they are so focused on characters.
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Is it a good idea to learn how to write by first writing fanfiction?

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Which one is his best?
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Barfly (he wrote the screenplay)
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sex gifs

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Ever since the internet turned against atheism sometime during the second Obama term, “atheism” itself became a dirty word. Suddenly everyone who was an atheist just a few years before become an expert in Thomism or heyschasm, and decided that believing in evidence was cringe. Religious zoomers started acting like they “won the culture war.” Funny how that works.
Since y'all are either literal zoomers who were toddlers during the heyday of new atheism or have the memory of goldfish, imagine it’s 1990 so you can understand why New Atheism mattered. You’re stuck in an evangelical megachurch. The pastor is telling you dinosaurs lived with humans, AIDS is God’s punishment, Israel is our greatest ally, and questioning anything means you’re going to hell. This is also the same institution quietly covering for youth pastors who “fell into sin,” preaching family values while funneling donations into private jets, and condemning divorce from the pulpit while half the elders are on their second or third marriage. This wasn’t fringe, it was normal. Teachers, politicians, parents all nodding along. New Atheism wasn’t about being edgy online. It was a backlash to decades of religious dominance that people memory-holed because 4cuck told them to. Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, were abrasive. So? That was the point. Polite disagreement didn’t work with creationist christcuck retards controlling the government and schools trying to ban stem cell research because muh “soulz”
Now fast-forward to today and suddenly everyone pretends religion is this harmless aesthetic hobby and atheism is the real extremism. As if the progress of the last 30 years just happened magically. As if secularism didn’t have to fight for every inch. New Atheism didn’t fail. It succeeded so hard that people forgot why it existed and now they’re turning back the clock because irony poisoned their brains. But sure, keep pretending “both sides are cringe” while pastors are back on TikTok telling kids the Earth is 6,000 years old and Drumpf is bringing back dead jew worship in schools. Have fun when you're living in Christian ISIS and shitposting is banned. At least you owned le redditors online.
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>>24952246
>all the christk1ke boomers not only didn't do anything against it but cheered it on
...and todays pastors are no different. the question is how we can go about doing an ezekiel kills all the pastors in israel and replacing them all with people without a master of divinity certification from a faggiversity
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>>24952199
lemme guess Christ-killers arent atheists
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>>24952269
rare jewish w
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>>24951979
Libtards only turned on atheism when it started going after other religions and wouldn’t hop on the intersectional SJW bandwagon in the early 10s, proving it was always just about being anti Christian.
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>>24952277
Libtard-SJW support of New Atheism was, yes. But the actual new atheist movement itself didn't change its positions and remained against all religions, so that's not a critique of it.

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>can't win over blacks
>can't win over poorfags
>outright enemies of blue collar workers
>not taken seriously/ seen as useful idiots by their intellectually inferior middle class liberal pragmatic allies
>can't/won't win over the armed forces
>can't/won't win over the intelligence agencies
>can't/won't win over the politicians

>decent success rate with middle class children (dropped by junior yr), academics, homosexuals and trannys.

Is there a book which explains how this leads to revolutionary success or should i just see all the le-science-of-hisory 2-more-weeksism from the past 200 years?
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>>24951946
>success is when you rape the third world while making Europe commit democide twice just to become vassal states of the Burger Reich, which restarts the process and flirts with nuclear holocausts multiple times along the way
Read a history book you projecting nigger.
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>>24950477
>can't win over blacks
There was more than one communist revolution in Africa
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didn't germany have Lenin use communism as a weapon to weaken russia during the 1st WW
I don't think communism is a terrible governing form, it's issue is that bad people game the system to enrich themselves with power and wealth. And all it's champions are silver spoon elitists
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>it's another "confirmation that napoleon's defeat destroyed european sovereignty for good" episode
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>>24952153
And the countries willingly gave up communist rule after the fall of the USSR, Cambodia as well.

Two Weeks Left Edition

>Old:
>>24936611

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>24952268
That's completely true, but it tends to be what has to be done if you want it right away.
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>>24951858
>What are you referring to?
My headcanon that best girl Selene is actually with Hadrian in exile and Orphan is still alive on the not-blown-up Demiurge and that Hadrian lied about both to protect them
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>>24952189
Only a faggot reads Le Guin.
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>>24951913
Ruocchio somewhat famously avoids goodreads and shit, probably for the best. I wanted to love SuT, and I think I'll like it better on reread, but it's fucking long and I wanted my payoff the first time around justice for Ramanthanu. In a series known for its scale it's crazy that the most fulfilling moments were small things like Darathama playing with the human kids
Re: SotE, gay Radahn sucked and the fight was mogged by Messmer and Sage "Castle Doctrine" Midra. All I wanted was for killing Starscourge to activate the eclipse in the DLC, turn everything into giga nightmare world, and fight Godwyn at the end, but after two goddamn years Faggotzaki decided to end the DLC with a slight upgrade of a boss I already fought. Seems like he's so desperate to move onto the next project he always halfasses things. He arguably hasn't made a complete game since Bloodborne and C team gave me a more satisfying story with Nightreign + DLC desu.
Anyway enough vidya
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>>24948786
>>24948781
your """reviews""" are GREAT
KEEP IT UP!

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>The Lord of the Rings is often erroneously called a trilogy, when it is in fact a single novel consisting of six books plus appendices, sometimes published in three volumes.
-Note on the text, Douglas A. Anderson, 1993

What is a book, as Anderson (and presumably Tolkien) means it? For me naively a book and a bound volume is the same thing. Did Tolkien intend for the Lord of the Rings to be published as six books? Wouldn't that make it a hexalogy?
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>>24952099 (Me)
Also, scrolls had to be unfurled compared to bound books which could be flipped through, which I assume was another consideration when organizing a work into multiple scrolls.
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>>24951793
>More examples doesn't answer my question. What is a book?
NTA, but think of the bible.
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, etc.
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc
Each of those are considered to be a "book", in the classic sense. They all get compiled into a collected works, and then we lazily call that a "book" too, but that's a much more recent understanding of a book. It's more recent, because it wasn't viable to produce collected works, until we had the printing press. Before then, a collected works were super rare and expensive, because it had to be copied by hand. It's why christians will commonly say stuff like "Umm.... Ackchyually the Bible is a library and not a book".
Contemporarily, a book is a complete story, regardless of it's stand-alone or part of a greater series.
Book has 3 obvious meanings, depending on when it's being used.
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>>24952086
No?
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>>24952281
Yes. Read literally any roman historian.
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>>24952338
I have.

>is arguably the single most racist author in American history
>marries a Jewish woman
What did HP Lovecraft mean by this?
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>>24952305
>who says im not talking about them either
I am. You're not talking about them.
>reactionary
I replied to you, but you in turn are merely reacting to "right wing", as you have defined it.
>you just assume shit
Then tell me I'm wrong. Tell me you identify as a white European with European culture. Say that you fit in with Europeans (yes, Euromericans too). Say that you wouldn't be waving your freak flag the moment someone tells you to let your freak flag fly. You're a freak. You know you're a freak. You know you don't fit in and that's why you take it out on those around you. You hate "right wing" because it means actual European culture, which you reject, and so you associate with deviants. These aren't implied battlelines- they're explicit. If you didn't realize that this is how the West is setup then that's your fault for not knowing.
>my initial critique
That wasn't a critique. You're doing the very thing you accused me of doing by assuming that others, people you hate, are somehow more of a freak than you are.
>cultic beliefs
You have no idea what you mean by that. A cult is a culture that's small. That's what that really means by the way. You're preying on the idea that small groups can be seen as outsiders and therefore there is an element of strageness- which you yourself perceive because you're on the outside. That's not an assumption anymore, you've already admitted it when you stated that your political position isn't "sexy". And no, it's not particularly enlightened, you're watching it crash in real time and it's only been established a few decades. And no, you're not a socialist, you're just a liberal with another name on the brand.
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>>24952320
>Then tell me I'm wrong
indeed you are wrong. i identify as a norwegian, a scandinavian and a germanic. i dont relate to every european and certainly not euroamericans that have virtually zero connection to europe besides pointless shit like blood. everyone in europe have a more nuanced identity than your simplistic american "white european" bullshit that means nothing. what the fuck do i have in common with moldovans? italians? bulgarians? very little. in our countires there can be massive differences when you just travel a dozen kilometers rooted in thousands of years of history. i am an ethnic norwegian protestant that is connected more to scandinavia than continental europe. you act like we are a monolith, which we certainly are not.
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>>24952330
>i identify as a norwegian, a scandinavian and a germanic
So when you debate against "right wing", you should really already know that the underlying concept behind "right wing" groups in general is a belief in nation. Not necessarily religion as something like a Christian nationalist, or having class consciousness. Nobody hears "right wing" and thinks "furry" other than yourself.
>i dont relate to every european
That's a personal choice, but being Germanic means being inextricably linked to European history generally- and for the historically literate- central northern Asian too.
>certainly not euroamericans that have virtually zero connection to europe besides pointless shit like blood
Okay, so that's actually what matters. So you're an anti-science genetics denier, but you even deny that Americans could have European culture, which is obvious given our language, history, literary traditions, technology, involvement in every major European conflict either directly or indirectly, etc. So you don't actually believe in Europe as a culture. That means that the first premise you stated, your own identity, doesn't actually come from culture. You identified with it because you are geographically within Norway, and Germanic territory, not because there's a genetic lineage or even on the basis of culture. You lied to me.
>in our countires there can be massive differences when you just travel a dozen kilometers rooted in thousands of years of history
I grew up in Italy. You don't have to explain this.
>i am an ethnic norwegian protestant
You don't have an ethnicity.
>you act like we are a monolith
We are a monolith. It's a big club- and you ain't in it.
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>see a european who compliments and loves jews
>look at their name
>they're an anglo brit
without fail
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>>24952344
enough about nietzsche

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Why yes, half page descriptions of lamps and countertops with the occasional interjection of brain dead criminals speaking futuristic ebonics. It certainly deserves all the praise. Were people really that bored in the 80s to enjoy this?
I'm not finishing it. I feel my neurons dying in real time. I was right for putting it off for so many years.
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>>24950655
>a few
Have you read this book?
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>>24946610
This book really fell flat for me. I think it would’ve been better if I read it before I’d seen the Matrix, which seems to borrow most of whats interesting in Neuromancer and present it in a far more entertaining manner
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I liked the first half of the book, I wanted more future prole stuff in a cool future cyber city rather than spy action stuff on a wacky rastafarian space station
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>>24947622
it's fine
it's cool for what it is and what it contributed to the genre, and the second half of the book has some neat atmosphere.
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>>24946610
If you wrote about 2025 and then went back in time to 1985 and sold it as a futuristic novel it would seem boring, a parody of futuristic novels, or groundbreaking for being different.
>ok, this book is set in 40 years in the future but it's about a total loser
What does he do?
>he works at a supermarket
On the moon?
>no, on Earth, stupid
Does he use a flying car/teleportation device/tube to get there?
>no he uses a regular car on a regular road
But the car is futuristic right?
>not this one, it still has buttons and runs on unleaded but there are these things called "Cybertrucks" that look futuristic and they're electric
But the electricity is derived from fusion power, right?
>no, it's just coal or wind power or solar
OK, so are his coworkers at the store robots?
>no there's only one robot

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>read a book
>it's good
>read it again
>it's even gooder
name even one time this has happened
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>>24943875
If you liked Ulysses at Stephen's age, you should read it again at Bloom's age.
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>>24943888
>>24943936
>>24943959
/lit/ on a heater
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>>24943975
this too
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>>24943875
War and Peace. Seeing characters grow makes me grow inside.

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Ebooks weren't a thing when I grew up. I have loved reading for almost 40 years, and reading means physical books. I don't like reading books off a screen. It doesn't give the same pleasure as reading off a page.
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>>24950985
>>24950974
Batteries get fucked when you use Bluetooth or color displays.
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>>24950985
I would be perfectly fine with a Kobo that has an SD card slot.
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>>24950873
Aside from E, the Supernote Manta(or Nomad) meets those requirements. They both allow for battery replacement, if you somehow kill it in the future.
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>>24947268
I buy physical books for ones that I might share or have no digital release(lots of resource and research books are physical release only). Ebooks are great now that ereaders are now good for writing. Being able to take notes and highlight PDFs is worthy of using an ereader now. It took quite awhile for the technology to finally catch up, and now the writing experience is finally good.

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I like to read philosophy although I don't understand like 70% of what is written. Actually I like to read smart people, people with soulfulness, I like to learn the truth about reality even if I can't grasp it with most of the part.
I'm currently reading Spengler's main work and it's good for the part I do understand.
Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>24949062
right wingers are retarded as usual
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>>24951888
Being retarded usually means you're more sexually successful than an intelligent person.
Following that, if left-wingers are more intelligent, and the world is getting more progressive, wouldn't that entail that right wingers are in fact, not retarded?
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>>24951888
And furthermore, wouldn't that disprove the correlation between intelligence and sexual success?
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>>24951888
Unintelligence is bipartisan.
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10 years ago I bought several books of philosophy and after reading 10 pages of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason I realised that it wasn't enough to simply read philosophy like you'd read any other book, you had to study it in order to get anything out of it
It was at that moment that I swore an oath to myself that I'd never read any works of philosophy and it's done me a lot of good

Have you been able to leverage philosophy and literature in your career?
Most classical literature and philosophy was intended to be appreciated by educated individuals whose enlightenment would advance their occupations as noblemen, administrators, warriors, poets, clergy, whatever. Even philosophers who had no other occupation taught law and medical students for practical application in their careers.
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>>24952196
>>24952196
Wtf is that the masonic hand???? I thought based prussia was above such judeo-satanic machinations. What is this shit? Has the west always been like this??? No! The elitist prussian junker aristocracy was supposed to sit atop the heap in a beautifully regimented military hierarchy. No no no! Not like this. Why the need for secret societies? WHAT THE FUCK
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>>24952196
I have no career. I hedge all my bets on entrepreneurship in the not so distant future. My degree is worthless and I currently work in a low-status job performing menial labor. The gamble is using your liberal arts education to deconstruct society down to its frame so that you're able then exploit that under the hood knowledge for gaming the system in personal business ventures.
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>>24952271
Chad move, I feel the same way. Failing that, I plan to devote myself entirely to fermenting a coup d'etat. If I can allow myself one criticism of your plan, it's working at all. As long as you are paying taxes you are part of the problem.

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>If there is a danger, it lies in the Negro music and dancing that has been imported into Europe. This music has completely won over a whole section of the cultured population of Europe, to the point of real fanaticism. It is inconceivable that the incessant repetition of the Negroes’ physical gestures as they dance around their fetishes or that the constant sound of the syncopated rhythm of jazz bands should have no ideological effects.
Was unc spittin fax here?
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>>24951473
There is in effect no such thing as simultaneous rhythms. No matter how different or how complex, they will eventually all collapse into a single cyclic pattern. It's just a question of how long the pattern is.
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>>24951361
The SoundCloud kid is more likely to have actually killed someone than the published hip-hop artist
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You will never be white.
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>>24951941
>black people didn't have music until white people invented it
really bruh
and yes, I am quoting you
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>>24950708
i miss this lil nigga like you wouldnt believe

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What the FUCK was Stephen King thinking?
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>>24951345
A bit of sex or implied sex can help sell a movie. Though if you take a movie like absentia you see that it's not necessary.

You see the same in books like the prestige, where the horror element is devoid of sexuality.
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>>24951371
how fucking dare you
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>>24952321
>where the horror element is devoid of sexuality.
Except they're gay for each other and create clones instead of babies?
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>>24951534
I don't know how you did it, but you somehow made your fantasy of having sex with multiple women at the same time as gay as possible.
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>>24952324

The book doesn't have clones and is told through the eyes of one their descendants (the baby of a baby)

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Ok what the FUCK was this all about???
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Man takes trip to lovely Greek island and meets the Riddler from Batman (played by Telly Savalas)
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>If you don't want to watch a woman take the BBC you are a fascist o algo


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