I regularly see threads on JP and Zizek but less commonly Jung and rarely Lacan.I have been reading Lacan on and off throughout the year and it has been pretty revelatory to me. If I were to try to take a stab at summarizing Lacan for anons that haven’t studied him, basically everything is fake and gay, anything not fake and gay is real, and >you are a subject beneath the fake and gay but not exactly a 1:1 product of the fake and gay. Your motif should be to recognize that to understand the real through anything fake and gay is impossible, therefore traverse the fake and gay knowing it’s fake and gay in accordance to your desire(TM). If anyone with more experience in Lacanian thought disagrees with my shit take, feel free to correct. Question: Why is Lacan not talked about as often as Freud and Jung are, or perhaps in general? Is his thought too subversive? Is it because he’s French? Pic related, worst mistake of my life
>>24950506Lacan isn't a very clear thinker, much like Hegel. They both had little to no understanding of science and yet tried to "incorporate" it into their "thought"
>>24952206I like Lacan, I would even argue his material should have that effect up to a certain point obviously. Lacan was superficially the least real but substantively the most real. He was brutally honest about how much work has to be done before you change who you are. His core material is brilliant.
>>24952578>He was brutally honest about how much work has to be done before you change who you areAgreed, which might make Lacan hard to follow since he demands this from the subject. He also characterized modern “psychology” and “therapy” as bs. I forgot what work of his I was reading (maybe it was one of his recorded lectures), but he challenged the idea of a “normal” in psychology, specifically, who defines what is normal. What is “normal” attention span and what is “ADHD”? A clue is that “normal” makes you a very good wagie.
>>24952117The idea of archetypes, for instance. Also the reconciliation of conscious and unconscious, the individual’s transformation etc. not only is derivative but is clothed in cringe, superficial rhetoric.
Lacan is currently important in psychoanalysis which is slowly being proven (by neuroscience) as the only form of therapy that can help you long term
Do you guys ever check out little free libraries
>>24952659Free books and you're just letting them sit there? baka
scored an nyrb edition of henry brulard by stendhal not long ago. mostly mills & boon though.
There’s a lot of these where I live and I have never seen anything worth reading inside of it.
>>24952691Pmuch this. I look at every one I come across and it's always a couple "off-brand" children's books and pop education or political books.
>>24952736>>24952691take a book leave a book bros, this one had Pynchon in it BE THE CHANGE
How to get into Henry James? What do I start with? Pound said only to read The Sacred Fount after about 20 of James' novels...
>>24952725Washington Square is a good one to start with. Then read Portrait of a Lady and The Bostonians and What Maisie Knew.
>>24952725That's good advice. Daisy Miller, Aspern Papers, Washington Square, Bostonians, What Maisie Knew would be good starting points. Portrait is the classic but it is also huge. There's a good Penguin anthology called Selected Tales, sort of a "greatest hits" for HJ short fiction, and a very good two-volume set from Everyman's Library under the title Collected Stories that has pretty much everything a casual or even advanced HJ reader will ever need.
Behold! The brilliancy of Danielle Chelosky's genius! Terror is one of my favorites from Danielle's little book called Female Loneliness Epidemic, and it is little. It's only 4in by 7in and 0.25in thick
>>24952480I've read better low effort shitposts
>>24951965Gen Z version of the Metamorphosis.
>>24952025Honestly she might fuck you from this baitposting, pledging yourself to her like an honorable vassal knight.
>>24952733>she
>>24952733Danielle my sweet flower! is it you? Oh! if I could but hold your cheek in my palm and brush your lips with my thumb. My sweet Danielle, accept my pledge, my penis longs for thee, and yearns to be loyal to thee, to serve only thee and thine honey bedewed lips, and thine heaving porcelain bosom! Danielle! be you my Lady Agnew of Locknaw.
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
Recently bought Chamber Music, Joyce's early book of poems. Am intrigued to read them; it's my next book on the docket.
>>24952018>new to poetryWordsworthShellyByronKeatsTennysonKiplingAll accessible and goodWelcome!
this one by Louise Gluck I found surprising... 4chan-esque
Wrote this one venting about some stressful stuff going on in my life.Can you guys recommend me poets who only write miserable poetry?
The end of the year is almost hereWhat are top 9 books you have read this year? You have read more than 9 books, right?
I only finished five books this year.>Why We WorkDidn't hate it but makes too many assumptions about people and management>The Burger KingEnjoyed it but it kind of missed the most interesting parts, ends in 1996 anyway>The Secret History of Mac Gaming, Expanded EditionSome of the way pronouns are written was annoying but generally enjoyable>The One-Stop Bible GuideNot great, too much Israel 1948 shilling>Attention Kmart Shoppers: The Rise and Fall of America's First Big DiscounterDidn't learn much that I didn't learn before. Comes from a certain (((people group))) and it shows.
>>24951183>You have read more than 9 books, right?No because I don't consider reading some accomplishmentBut I've mostly been reading fairy tales
>>24952045Lagerkvist - The DwardHamsun - HungerEllis - American PsychoMukka - Maa on Syntinen LauluPlatonov - The Foundation PitGontsarov - OblomovLind - Landscape in ConcreteGombrowicz - PornografiaMartin-Santos - Time of Silence
>>24951183Jennifer GovernmentVampire LestatForever WarLightthe Sailor on the Seas of FateNova Swingthe Neon BibleHardwiredWe
>Perfume>The Crisis of Parliamentary Democracy>The Machievellians: Defenders of Freedom>The Road to Serfdom>The Witch and the Priest >Reflections on the Revolution in France>A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful >The Penguin Book of Exorcisms>The Concept of the Political
Which books should i read to develop a bronze age mindset?Not BAPfag btw, i just really like the bronze age. The epitome of masculinity.Could be fiction or non fiction, dont care.
>>24951431>bronze age mindsetwas reading/writing a thing amongst the majority during the bronze age?maybe start by unlearn to read
>>24951444>we cannot do more.weak minded Not all progression is good, not all change is badRejecting any form of technology that make life easier should be rejected to improve your mental-, physical strength and willpower
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>>24951431Illiad and Odyssey
>>24951489in the bronze age, you would be lucky to survive to your 30s without dying in a pointless war or of a disease that is easily curable today or of some other stupid thing like being tramped by a horse or whateverso yeah feel free to develop a bronze age mindset and leave this world forever
>I don't have enough rice to eat therefore the physical world is both evil+unfixable and we should sit around in a circle pseudo-lobotomizing ourselves during every waking moment o algo.
>>24952656>>>/his/
>>24952656kek
>>24952656these new gigachad variants are getting out of hand
Desperately reconcile with your irredeemable faith, sheep.
>>24948329I like his arguments in favor of Arianism but hate that fucking desk of his.
>>24948379lol I showed my wife and she went, ‘ew.’People can see the autism in his eyes
>>24951743A little meme podcaster who is more famous as a bogeyman on the left than famous among the right is somehow relevant ? STFU
>>24951143This nigga gay as fuck. If you can’t see that, it must be because you are an even more gay nigga.
>>24951057The real answer is that he is specifically interested in the new testament and keeps getting more interested in it the more he deals with it.
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Pro-life is left wing, pro-choice is right wing. I don't care about consensus; it doesn't mean I'm wrong, it means the consensus is.Abortion is a violation of human rights wherein you take what is scientifically classified as a human life and arbitrarily classify them as lesser than human in order to kill them freely. Planned Parenthood was founded by a eugenicist. Pro-choice advocates even argue along the lines that abortion has historically been legal, meaning that abortion is conservative and anti-abortion is progressive.
laugh hard it’s a long way to the bank
Liking a woman who's avoidant is an absolute headache. I almost got fed up at one point and stopped talking to her for a few days, when she didn't even respond to me only for her to hit me up like what the hell.
Gonna have to spend ~6 hours today riding the bus, fuck me. At least I'll get a lot of reading and thinking done. I packed my Proust!
Last night, I had a nightmare that I stuck my hands in the electric socket and got electrocuted, and I woke up thinking that I am going to die.I used to have these sort of death dreams frequently when I was young. I wonder what their reoccurrence portends.
Sapient Species, Races, and Miscellaneous Sapients EditionFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Old Thread: >>24748733
>>24952477Esoterica is great. I will check out Religionforbreakfast. Cheers.
>>24952437Come to think of it, it's more like geopolitical symbiosis than "colonization".
>>24952400Maybe not exactly self-colonization, but this might just be a very intense way of becoming a vassall state, no?
>>24952660I literally don't have a word for it because I'm not sure it's ever happened. It can happen in my world, but my world is science fantasy and the laws of logic don't quite apply to it.
>>24952674Some nations like Tonga, Egypt, Liberia come to mind, and others to a lesser degree.
Apparently there’s a phenomenon in American high schools right now of not assigning full novels to students, but only having them read excerpts. I graduated a decade ago, and I distinctly remember us reading Gatsby and Slaughterhouse Five. What novels, if any, were you made to read in high school?
Favorite book from High School: Lords of Discipline. Gripped me like no other. Most difficult/tedious: Founding Brothers. Very dry and LONG. I am sure I’d enjoy it more today though.
>>24951097Yes.Took 5 APs senior year, including AP Lit.An at the end of the semester found out entire class had been coming to exams with all their notes in white text on a white word document for all the tests.Found out the very last two weeks after a year of 3am nights.Most pissed I've ever been in my entire life and I'm 35 now.
>>24952610>It's not even a disciplinary issue; forcing the kids to sit down and read does nothing because they *literally can't do it.*It's a skill issue. There are plenty of education techniques to help them get into the reading flow
>>24951097We were assigned To Kill a Mockingbird almost exclusively. It was quite bizarre. Everything else was an excerpt or an article. It is definitely dire.
>>24952721If it were a skill issue then there would be no problems with teaching kids. It's an attention issue.
This is horrifying. Is there a better way than Christianity to transcend this?
>>24948443This
>>24952187Oh I didn't know, thats so cool. You must be so well read and smart.
>>24950501>steals 200yr old ideasWhat are the sources of the ideas for me to read?
>>24950501>>24952730i.e. Gabriel Tarde's Les lois de l'imitation (The Laws of Imitation) as per pic? Just that and nothing else?
>>24948191man I got intrigued but the model is weaker than mine
Prop 1 - Substance is by nature prior to its modificationsSubstance is prior to modificications (modes), this makes both logical and ontological sense, in that substance is that which is in in itself and is conceived through itself, in that it is a self sufficient, self caused entity that cannot be contingent upon anything external. Spinoza presents his proof through definitions 3 and 5 as it logically follows, however here I will give more context. This establishes substance as the ontological foundation of reality in that God is not the divine creator of the world, but rather that god is the world, within all that exists. In such substance which is infinite, eternal and indivisible. This rejects the classic view of god (maybe why he got kicked out of the jewish church) that god sits apart from the world. In this modes, or determinations of substance, are not substances in themselves but exist within the substance, in such they are dependent on its existence. In link to Axiom 1, “Everything that is, is either in itself or in another.” (pls read the other writing on axioms for clarification) which reaffirms the ontological priority of substance over its modes, modes are in substance but substance is not in any mode. This reflects Spinoza's claim that all that exists as finite expressions of the infinite attributes of god, this undermines the notion of a transcendent deity, in that Spinoza's god is positioned as necessary to the constitution of all being.
>>24952143i say i love spinoza even tho im a materialist bc he is my fave philosopher even tho he is a rationalist :3 and even tho rationalism and
>>24952143Spinoza was very critical of Francis Bacon for his philosophy, you don't know what you're talking about. /pol/ has mindbroken you
'tard moment
>>24952519You’ll never be a woman
>>24951508It's a standard mystic ontology you'd find in buddhism, advaita, neo-plationism, etc. The substance is what your experience is made of right now, and it twists and moves to represent forms which you'd call the universe and yourself. If you want to stick with materialism you'd call it the quantum field and stop there, the religions would say the field is sequent to God.
What's /lit/'s opinion on banning or regulating all forms of fiction and music? Plato wanted poets banned from the Republic, Robert E. Lee distrusted fiction and novels in particular. Not an advocate for it. Rather, I'm just interested in knowing how people would even consider such a thing. As well as whether or not it would do people good in a time where we seem to be inundated with fiction.
this entire topic nowadays is basically academics coping they are the evil in society and blaming music/fiction instead of the obvious usurious tyrants dominating everything, because academia/college is one of their primary tools.I assume this was just the case in earlier periods as well, there was some obvious malevolent power structure the person was benefiting from, and they don't want to point that out so they just blame music.It's really common with tradlarpers.For music though it had a ton to do with centralization. You basically had a thing in the 17th-20th centuries when national banks were taking off where you wanted to "nationalize" as much as possible to have a stable tax base so you could take on more debt. To do this they implemented public schools (this is the open explicit motivation for public schools this is not disputable), at these schools they'd intentionally undermine folkways, traditional music, traditional dance, etc. This was basically done to destroy local identity and make everyone subservient with the state so they could get that more stable tax base by having a more fungible citizenry. Destruction of local languages which would have been the primary relay for folktales and culture was also a means of that. Fiction itself is somewhat different than music in the modern sense, but if you include just say general poets and tales people tell it applies. Any art does sort of have that binding quality, if it's a product of your culture it can bind you to it, if it's the product of another it can alienate you from your culture.
>>24952598TRVKE, but don't forget music is a powerful (but not as powerful as social media) propaganda medium. Music that promotes hedonism does effect hedonism on the listening masses, whereas classical music promotes a higher state of consciousness.
>>24952556Against it
