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I just wanted to say I absolutely loved this book as a kid and loved the sequel Speaker for the Dead. I plan on getting into Xenocide as well.

I also heard the final book just came out and I'm excited to get into it but it also brings in the "Shadow" series. I've never read them how are they?
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>>24724623
God Emperor is balls-achingly boring.
At least something happens in the last two books.
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Isn't it weird that Ender's Shadow totally negates the singular importance that Ender had in Ender's Game? Shadow implies that Bean would have been a better choice.
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>>24725417
>God Emperor is balls-achingly boring.
Its a character focused exploration of Leto. Compared to 5 and 6... where hardly anything happens, and all that excellent character writing is thrown out of the window.
>At least something happens in the last two books.
There's only one decent POV in 5 that makes me not call it completely trash. 6 is actually just abysmal dogshit, it was probably for the best we never saw 7 considering it would've been worse in all likelihood.
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>>24725014
How fucking gay. Imagine milking it this far. How embarrassing.
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>>24727271
Does it? I don't remember it much but I'm pretty sure it said multiple times that Bean is too autistic to be a good leader and his superintelligence is borderline useless because people don't like him as much as Ender.

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The Indians obviously know what's up: God is both the force of creation AND destruction; none of this christian God is only good, infantilizing pussy shit.

Rilke was the cosmic cry baby par excellence, and he is good company when you need a reminder of why life is sublime and why death is the measure we must own up to... And why death is not the limit of man's link to the devine...

Ligotti is sick. Period. Good hard tonic. It you can stand him you're in good shape.

Carver is a great craftsman to learn from, esp for short story writers, whatever you think of his pov and ideas

Hanna had some fascinating things to point out

Reznikoff is a neglected master, read that shit and see how much you can stand in a day. Then see if you can do what he did but in our times

Karl Ove is entertaining and instructive. Way too white and Norwegian to be wise or helpful in a wise way, but lots to learn from his fully engaged hypnotic style
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Why don't you take a guess.
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>>24727308
You are a teenager on the verge of self awareness and ironically do not realize how banal it is.

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REMINDER TO EVERYONE BROWSING THIS BOARD
nobody on this dogshit board reads books
you see all those philosophers threads? they are made by twitter users, reddit users, and political streamers viewers
you see all those literature threads? nobody has read more than 1 page, they've just read the wikipedia summary
you see all those generals and frequent threads where people is asked to write whatever the op asks? the posters come from /r9k/, /adv/ and chatbots
you see all those religious rage bait threads? the posters come from /pol/
you see all those threads asking where to start with some autor? they'll never start reading.

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>2025
>still no caesar
What's taking him so long?
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>>24726690
>History isn't something you can just made broad sweeping generalizations about, it is infinitely nuanced
This is literally the historicist position. You cannot make general statements about history, you must understand every historical event as its own unique occurrence influenced by its own unique history.

Spengler deviates from this point of view in a sort of anglo-empiricist direction by claiming that you can in fact compare civilizations and their life cycles because they have common morphology.
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>>24723612
Caesar is a bad example.
It's not a have/havenot problem its a Rome vs the provinces problem. But unlike Rome there isn't a desire to balkanize either.

By necessity as American decline continues you're going to see the core cede power to the periphery, devolution similar to that which has happened in the UK with Scotland and Wales during their decline. Libby clitties are just being stubborn and refusing to flow with the historical tide.
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>>24726362
The question of whether the coming Caesar will be a state administrator / military leader vs. a wealthy businessman is something Spengler actually touched on in some of his works IIRC. Basically the Caesar would fall into either one of those two categories and as part of a cultural struggle between Anglo-Saxon ideas of free trade and capitalism against Prussian ideas of state management. It doesn't necessarily have to be like the original Caesar, i.e. a military leader and elected official. So yes, Trump could possibly fit the bill as a Spenglerian Caesar and if you were looking to be a Caesar you wouldn't have to be a commissioned officer or government official. The requirement is essentially being a populist leader that seizes power by some usage of "force" over "money" as a reaction to civilizational decline.

As for an actual step-by-step process, I'm too lazy to type all that our right now and it certainly wouldn't be authoritative but looking at how other great men gained popularity and seized power in the past would be the place to start. If you had the potential to become a Caesar you would be able to figure it out. Maybe a podcast would be the place to start, most likely not though since everybody and their mother wants to be a podcaster these days and you would have to be able to stand out among everyone else. I would much rather you not try since the last thing the world needs is a podcaster and frogposter to seize power in the west.
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>>24727036
Have you read the book?
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being an incel neet is too comfortable and I'm still 20
If you want a young Alexander he should have prophesied that.

The wikipedia article on Asperger syndrome says those who have it have poor prosody.

But isn't dependence on prosody for conveying information really a sign that the language is poor? When I say language I mean in the sense of English, Latin etc are languages.

When I asked chatgpt about prosody it gave this as an example of what prosody is.

>How the voice rises at the end of a sentence to indicate a question:
>"You're going to the store?"

In English you can change the word order to indicate a question, but nevertheless this is an example chatgpt gave, and something people often do, to use this word order and yet mean it to be a question. However in Latin this is not a problem because Latin originally didn't even have the question mark, but instead used the suffix "-ne". A question mark is in writing only, it does not transfer to speech, just like a comma. You don't say out loud "question mark" or "comma", but rather this is conveyed by prosody, in the example above by rising voice.

My point is that while the question mark often requires prosody to convey its meaning in speech, the suffix "-ne" does not. And it's the same thing with comma, Latin didn't originally have the comma, and it doesn't transfer to speech other than through prosody. Instead Latin conveyed the meaning through other means such as suffixes which you have in speech just as much as in writing, ie there is no need for prosody to communicate a suffix.

Given that English relies on prosody to convey the equivalent in speech in many instances where there is question mark and comma in writing, and given that Latin didn't even have question mark and comma originally, and both before and after the addition of question mark and comma to Latin it does not require neither these forms of punctuation, nor their speech counterpart which is prosody, I'd say that Latin a) is less dependent on prosody than English, b) is a richer language, and c) English uses punctuation and prosody to try to make up for its poverty.

What are your thoughts on this book? Is it better than Dianetics by Ron L. Hubbard? I'm looking for something to change my life and get me out from addiction to bath salts
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>>24727302
Looks like some westoid read the work of igor smirnov and misunderstood it.

>makes a mockery of leftards' wet dreams (the Houyhnhnms) 70 years before there was a true left wing
Dangerously based
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...anon...the joke was that Houyhnhnms are better humans than humans...Swift was mocking humanity for being morally bankrupt.
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Oh, I've got some different wet dreams that are mocked in here, ha ha.
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>>24726521
>better humans than humans
>caste system with some Houyhnhnms at the bottom, elite Houyhnhnms can't have more than a child of either sex and must swap with another if they do, etc...
The thing is you are right, they are better humans than humans. But they are still pathetic and flawed nevertheless

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I'm actually impressed by his prose, I'll give him that
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>>24722769
I recently read that McCarthy himself hated modern American literature.
>“These are the books that he read in his 20s and 30s and maybe into his 40s, and he was broke that whole time,” said Dennis. “Once he got money, Cormac bought all his books in hardback if possible, and for the last 40 years of his life he read almost no fiction at all.”
>Why? The answer stems from McCarthy’s deeply disparaging view of modern society, which he considered lost, divorced from nature, history and tradition and heading toward social collapse and apocalypse. “Cormac considered contemporary fiction a waste of time,” said Dennis, “because contemporary writers no longer have a legitimate culture to feed their souls.”
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/two-years-cormac-mccarthys-death-rare-access-to-personal-library-reveals-man-behind-myth-180987150/
>How McCarthy survived while barely working (part-time autoparts warehouse job aside) is beyond my ken, though I assume his family supported him to some extent.
Another excerpt from that article.
>One of the few details we have about McCarthy’s personal life comes from his second wife, Anne
>DeLisle, an English singer and dancer, whom he met on a ship to Ireland in 1965. Their home was a partially converted dairy barn outside Knoxville; they bathed in a lake. “Someone would call up and offer him $2,000 to come speak at a university about his books,” she once said. “And he would tell them that everything he had to say was there on the page. So we would eat beans for another week.”
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>>24722544
Well the only position then is become a third world maoist and im gonna have to pass on that, chief.
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>>24725048
Just make being antifascist illegal. Problem solved.
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>>24722193
>Tucker Carlson launches scathing attack on MFA programs
This is an attack on the MFA from the wrong direction. MFA ought not to exist. Instead promising young authors should be forced to work at the post-office year after alcoholic year until they become master authors without accidental meeting fuck set-ups in their novels. You just know he was critiquing himself. Accidental fuck.
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"Okay."

*goes back to reading*

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>700 pages later
>Murder is... le bad??
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>>24725755
Americans, and by extension, most westerners, have no morals because they have no belief systems. Their beliefs are fluid and lack solidity or foundation. Most people just pick a person/entity to derive their beliefs from and follow everything they say. The measure of a society is the potential for true hypocrisy to exist. How can hypocrisy exist when one can both genuinely be pro-Islam and pro-trans rights?
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>>24726933
>How can hypocrisy exist when one can both genuinely be pro-Islam and pro-trans rights?
The Islamic Republic of Iran would like to have a word with you
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>>24726956
You missed my point entirely. When you can genuinely hold two beliefs, which are diametrically opposed to each other, without self-contradiction, you have no true beliefs. If you lack any proper belief system, you lack the fundamental capacity to act against your beliefs, aka be a hypocrite.
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>>24725853
>Half of America is celebrating the political assassination of an albeit poor debater
Anon was not trying to prove that murder is wrong. He was trying to prove that OP is wrong.
According to OP, everyone knows that murder is wrong. But, less than a week ago, half of america was celebrating murder. This already contradicts OP.
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>>24725499
you missed the point

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How is this not just smut? Where's the philosophy?
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>>24725519

Ever watched "Hostel?"
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>>24725514
It gets very philosophical-y when the degenerates start trying to justify their crimes
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>>24725514
I would read this if it was called "Justin" and it was about a young boy. But it's about a foid, so I don't care.
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>>24726859
There is male homosexuality in it
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>>24725824

Sorry dude, OP is just trying to remind me that I am a horrible person for having read De Sade's shit in the past. OP needs to f--- off and get drunk and party at a nightclub or bar like he did back in college on the weekends.

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Drinking a Large McDonald's Coke.
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>>24727175
Try being nice to people first, it comes with fewer rules
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Autumn's becoming more and more unseasonably warm as time goes on. It may be the only thing I can kind of appreciate about this modern, dystopian world we live in.
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>>24727219
What's the point of being nice anyways?
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>>24727278
It's a manifestation of the grace God gives all humans

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What are the most Schopenhauerian works of literary fiction?

I don't mean "depressing" or "miserable" (that's just a caricature of pessimism), but works that actually reflect Schopenhauer's philosophy:
>lucid pessimism
>detachment from illusions
>moments of transcendence through art (music) or nature
>compassion as the highest moral gesture

Which novels or stories would you put in most of these categories?
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>>24726170
I'm not a monolingual anglo but I don't speak Spanish. Is the English translation good enough?
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>>24726228
It seems intelligible enough but at a heavy price.
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>>24726095
>>24726124
Very interesting. I'd like to hear more. What about the sonata is Schopenhauerian?

Very much agree with the Houellebecq comparison!

I would add Thomas Hardy.
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>>24726095
>>24726124
>Proust
Damn it, I've already read that one and it was the greatest novel I've ever read. Makes perfect sense now, since I'm attracted to Schopenhauer's ideas.
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>>24726068
I’m surprised no one’s said Tolstoy. Harold Bloom (absurdly but insightfully) said Anna Karenina was such a pure distillation of Schopenhauer that it rendered World as Will and Idea redundant. They also strike me as similar personalities. Wagner was most taken up with Schopenhauer, really really enthusiastic about it, but he was a very different person by my judgement.

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Notable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Richard Matheson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many more

Discuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?
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Just finished Autopsy in Room Four by King. Pretty good. The suspense was actually palpable as the pericardial cut was about to commence. I'm disappointed there ended up being no supernatural element in the story tho.
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>>24726802
This was my fave. I read pic related which is meant to accompany it and the only stories I'd include in a best of were The Temple, Herbert West, Juan Romero, The Lurking Fear and At the Mountains of Madness
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>>24727215
Forgot pic dammit
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>>24727218
Those Del Rey collections are kino as fuck!
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>>24726461
>>24726479
Have you read his newest horror collection, Not a Speck of Light? I was planning to save it for October and am hoping it's as good as his rest.

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Was I supposed to be rooting against Gilead? As far as I can tell, it's a social utopia
>women's aptitude for whoreness is completely nullified by society
>military-based society giving everyone a very clear hierarchy, structure, and future prospect
>zero tolerance on crime and deviation from societal norms, ensuring a peaceful society
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>>24727202
Yeah because women don't know what love is so it must be imprinted on them a la Tabula Rasa.
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>>24726943
>women's aptitude for whoreness is completely nullified by society
>completely nullified by society
You gotta finish the book first, before making a thread about it
>military-based society giving everyone a very clear hierarchy, structure, and future prospect
>a very clear hierarchy
Who is above the Commander's wife?
>>zero tolerance on crime and deviation from societal norms, ensuring a peaceful society
>ensuring a peaceful society
With a revolution?
Maybe dystopian societies are trully some retarded BDSM fantasy from the author.
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>>24727241
I’m sorry you feel that way anon, because if that’s the approach you have to love, I’m afraid you’re going to be lonely for a long time
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I wish it was like that in real life, no memes or irony. Everyone would be happier, we’re just brainwashed to think it’s bad
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>>24727274
lmao fucking bitch. go back to hollywood

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Books with this feel?
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>>24727261
can't think of any, but it made me think of Anecdote of the Jar, the Wallace Stevens poem
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>>24727266
>he placed a jar in tennessee


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