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Is there any book/writing that ACTUALLY deals with the problem of evil?

Most apologetics online just go "free will" with no elaboration and that's it.
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>>24716810
Did the bot break?
Do you understand that you presented a totally arbitrary and insane moral system that you magically expect everyone to obey and know?
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>>24716525
>morality, ethics and good/evil only exist in a universe created by God
>otherwise it's all meaningless and subjective; a purposeless cosmic occurrence.
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>>24715501
Suffering is joyous in light of Charity. I am in no hurry to shed this life, it's toilsome, but we know it's beautiful, because with all this toil we do by the help of Christ, I believe we are privy to plenteous harvest; and I think if we look around us we can see the bounty thereof for ourselves--slowly strickling through. Consider all the things that are radiant that we get to forge because of some long-suffering devotion.--It's gratifying, my friend. A fallen world where the presence of Jesus is is, is Heaven to those who are confident He is there. In many ways as I experience it,--though it would be better to see Him face-to-face,--I have no inclination to count this life as being anything other than Heaven. Because this life is salvation already at hand,--I'm 'Born Again,'--have the sacraments in my soul--at work. Heaven is where Jesus is, hell is where Jesus is not. Why would I forgo my numbered days of receiving my lot with Jesus in this Earthly-manner?--And by what, committing a sort-of suicide? No it's a waste of God's gift. You contrarian, you.--Listen.

I'm not getting off my journey with Jesus for nobody. I'm sojourning here, where things taste bitter, to rejoice precisely here, sharing the Good News, with poor souls like myself. I don't wish to be elsewhere. Never assert that I do.

Amen
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>>24716525
>>24716827
I mean anyoen can simply say that
>Morality ... from god
And go
>It can never be evil if god does it by definition!

It is literally like I am talking to some retard who never studded anything in the field of moral philosophy!
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>>24716843
*trickling

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>Previous:
>>24703379

>Thread Question:
Post quotes or highlighted passages from books you've read (so we can admire or make fun of it)
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>>24716074
Permafrost (Alastair Reynolds)
Shoot me now, I’m not sure I’d really care.

The Surviving Sky (Kritika H. Rao)
Could this dust be… pure possibility, independent of an attached consciousness?

Emergent Properties (Aimee Ogden)
You just hate the Orthodox Republic because of the time they infected you with that NFT virus

Red River Seven (A. J. Ryan)
The entire human race is facing an extinction-level event. Norms of ethics and morality are no longer relevant.

Planetside (Michael Mammay)
At least five soldiers checked out her ass as she walked past. I doubt that was an accident on her part.

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>>24716796
>Most women ended up as the property of drunken, filthy fools, why should I be any different?
-My 17 year old future wife when I asked her dad if I could take her snowmobiling.
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>>24716216
Thanks, I was hoping for more of these types of posts. If you have more suggestions or experience feel free to share them.
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>>24715701
No anon
This is the official announcement of the lorn prequel
It is hazard bedlam
It is not red god

Why strive at all, since striving itself is suffering?
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>>24714859
Do I actually have to read Fichte or is this a meme?
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>>24714854
Tbf his philosophy is good, his mouth made that easy though. Schopenhauer's particular brand of scepticism combined with his odd make the human condition metaphysics approach allows for high levels of introspection and provides a high standard for epistemology. This is a really good approach that keeps him out of a number of postmodern dilemmas while still keeping a venue for scientific discourse open. If you like paradoxes and don't mind spending time with a philosopher he is a good choice, but don't forget his scepticism was designed with a purpose, you may have a truth or 2 but the rules about speaking it apply to schopes too.
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>>24714871
you actually have to read him
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>>24714983
nobody's going to read it
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>>24714854
not nearly sophistic enough to come off as intelligent to pseuds

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Tomorrow morning 10:00am BST the Character and Theme requirements of will be released.

You will have until Monday 23:59 BST to write and submit.

Submit via rentry.co – you can change the url of your submission to your story name to be identified easily.

Your writing must reflect the Character and Theme requirements – the character requirement doesn’t have to be your main character and the theme can be creatively interpreted, but those who just ignore it will not be voted for.

No word count, but anything over three thousand is most likely going to drag and no one wants to read your novel.

To submit, reply in the thread with your rentry.co url using a tripcode (Namefield: Name + “#” + Password).
ANONS feel free to submit! We will just use the no.# on the reply to identify your story.

If you submit you should leave meaningful feedback for at least two other stories. Put in what you want back. There aren’t many places on this planet to get raw, no filter feedback, and it’s the best way to keep sharp and improve. And let’s not circle-jerk each other. Empty, positive platitudes do NOT count as a critique.


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>>24709553
I feel like this was a missed shot, unlike the protagonist who clearly got their man. The set up is good and I enjoyed the pulpy noire spy genre opening filled with regrets and multiple locations however the problem is, I just felt this went nowhere. There was little emotional investment on anyone's part. I never got to know the reason for the mission, so when at the last part everyone is put into danger, I didn't feel much tension because who or what or why anything was happening was still unknown. I did enjoy the last two paragraphs quite a bit, the geography and action was well done, but the set up to it faltered.
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>>24709637

>Heading up, hash-marked arrays of light seem to sink out of the horizon like drooping spiderwebs full of golden dust


I thought to myself we must be on some sort of future spacecraft in another dimension but no, reading halfway through the first paragraph, it is the hallucinogenic cosmos of a normal rave.


I’m sure you have heard that your prose is dense:
>replaced by dark marble whose white veins sear under fizzling tubes of blacklight
It’s also very good, but is piled on top of each other so thick it doesn’t feel natural, it doesn’t flow as a sentence but is packed so tight I cannot move on without a re-read. I feel like I’m being smacked around with a beautiful book of poetry.


I think the second part of the story is superior to the first because it moves briskly and I greatly enjoyed the last line, or the twist tying it all together. You are a talented writer but sometimes it feels like you are blowing up a paragraph with dynamite when just a simple wrench will do.
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>>24716549
apologies for that wack spacing, I was copying from notes.
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>>24716205
>Curious to know what's wrong with you lol anyways
I'm autistic
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>>24709727
>son of hermes !thxMIT/E4Y - https://rentry.co/theartoflosing
Voice steady and bitter timeline hops tidy politics incidental wanted sharper finish.
>Horrible Acne !xYjgkOxYdE - https://rentry.co/b63oi7gw
Baroque relentless exceeds clarity idea sharp cut third.

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what the fuck happened to commies, accelerationist trannies, gnostic schizos, failed poets, waah waah pessimists, cultural theory arm chairs fags, incels, chuddhists/vedanta jeets, christcucks, nazioids, basedence/woo-woofags?

i dunno lads somethings is fucking missing. i use to see eternal marx, incel literature, pessimist and christcuck threads. what the fuck happened to them? they made this place more fun.
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r/TheDeprogram got banned, so more communist shitposting should be incoming i assume
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>>24716738
Is reddit being purged after the Kirk shooting?
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>>24716758
Somewhat, it's odd that they will go after communist subs but not liberal subs celebrating the same thing
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>>24716769
Probably a 'keeping up appearances' thing
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>Daily active user count still in the mid-two hundred thousands like it's been every day for fucking forever
You guys are just dumb. Only thing that's changed since the hack is the jannies/mods have become just that much more paranoid/despotic. The day-to-day site-wide population is the same.

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Post your own work and critique others.
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>>24716407
Aesthetic garbage. At least if you're going to kill yourself write something a little better than your trainwreck of a life.
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>>24716407
This is dogshit. Fucking embarrassing drivel.
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Rum tum tum and a bottle of cum!
Rindle dindle dee and a thimble of wee!
Dum thum doo and a bucket of poo!
Siddle diddle dot and a goblet of snot!
Lum whum dom and a bowl of vom!
Niddle biddle fool and a spoon of grool!
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Etsy witches really killed Charlie Kirk
lmao lol jk
But maybe not, you do your own research.
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copacabana777
lovely casino, a slice of heaven
friendly atmosphere, swear to god
find me dere, i cut dis cord

how do you read the bible?
do you just read it in order as if it were a novel? or there are better ways?
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>>24711277
You are confusing the Bible with the Quran. The Quran is largely short stories interspersed with prayers and laws with no clear context. The Bible, by contrast, is roughly chronological and the books are generally complete stories -each one having a beginning, middle, and end- before going to the next book. This is because the Bible and Quran have different purposes within Christianity and Islam: in Christianity, the Bible largely serves as an instructional book; in Islam, the Quran is an object of devotion and recitation. If the Bible were suddenly given to an alien community who never encountered Christianity, and they accepted everything in it as true, they could construct a recognizable form of Christianity (though probably with a lot of beliefs considered heresies by mainstream Christians). If the Quran were given to an alien community who never encountered Islam, they would not be able to figure out what most of it refers to at all.
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>>24711384
Kek
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>>24715579
I was responding to how he said you should read it like a short story collection, some of the stories are not short. If you start Isaiah thinking you're gonna finish it in an hour you're badly mistaken
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>>24716167
Obviously I don't read the books in a day. I typically read about 1-3 chapters per day.
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You read it as a silly, alien, decadent Jewish byproduct.

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maekar I targaryen, first of his name edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

old: >>24681455
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>>24716449
He’s gonna die with his fake Targ baby, would be kino if it happens after learning that Jon is Rhaegar actual kid.
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>>24716524
Aegon is a Blackfyre and therefore the real Targ though.
Jon and Dany are some kind of bastard cousins from some dude named Daeron Waters.
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>>24716562
cope, Daeron is trueborn.
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>>24715115
The “fat pink mast” line is so infamous that I’d forgotten that this scene also involves breastfeeding (from a young mother, no less).
You can really tell that the series was way less famous, if George was this brazen about showing his fetishes.
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>>24704184
could King Slanding have won the game of thorns if he survived the bear attack?

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What periodicals do you subscribe to?

I use to subscribe to Tin House, back when that was still a thing. I miss looking forward to a new, physical thing I could read.
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>>24715238
I'm the king of periodicals. I still subscribe to some. My pro tip is that you can find them readily available on Ebay and if you want to "try" one out then start by buying them there.

One thing to keep in mind is that for that many of them their primary motivation is to sell you something. I think this explains why you often see more book reviews of "recently published." For some of the more academic/university issued this isn't always the case.

But here are some thoughts :

1. Three Penny Review : I had an issue with my subscription, and found the editor slightly off-putting. Also they do things like in the Spring 2022 where all the photographs are black people. Even as a liberal, I found this kind of forced and contrived.

2. Vanity Fair : I actually like this one - randomly interesting stuff, celebrity gossip, beautiful women in the ads. Check out March 2016 issue with the beautiful Jenifer Garner and a great article on a a prep school sex scandal.

3. Cabinet Magazine : I really like this one. Beautiful photos, good articles. For example Issue 61 has an article of how the author has to pack his library and move. Another one is about the famous guests at the Savoy Hotel and their check in cards. Cool stuff like that.

4. The Sun : by UNC I think. I like this one, rather small periodical but good articles. Check out the October 2022 issue for a good article on masturbation.


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>>24716273
These in order of recommendation?
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>>24715238
Good thread. I subscribe to Ploughshares, POETRY Magazine, and the NYer. I mostly keep up with online journals nowadays though
>ZZYZZYVA
>The Creative Writing Department
>Joyland Magazine
>American Short Fiction
>Adroit
>Kenyon Review
>DIODE Poetry
and a few others whenever I remember them. I miss Tin House so much.
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>>24716730
nta but Granta and N+1 are the two best magazines on that list; they publish high-tier, cutting-edge literature pretty consistently. Excellent excellent signal-to-noise ratio. Paris Review/LRB probably second best, LRB to keep up with the litworld zeitgeist (NYRB also works too) and Paris Review to keep up with the lit establishment (mostly good but sometimes they're just publishing names, although the Writers At Work interview series is worth its weight in fucking gold). Baffler's excellent, recommend. Vanity Fair's got very, very good longform pieces on various topics relating to culture/politics, you'd be surprised at how consistent they are. They're all good periodicals. I think Harper's is kinda boring though.
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>>24716252
No, I said good ones.

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a lot of the hate for trans people comes from how much they are pushed. this includes in publishing. trans artists, of any kind, seem to be categorically mediocre and shallow. trans-focused media also always seems to be a surface level, zero depth reflection of the trans experience. so the things getting pushed are self-absorbed and uninteresting fluff at best and narcissistic and actively damaging slop at worst

but other kinds of lgbtq people have made incredible art in the past. sappho, woolf, proust, dickinson, and even plato are part of that group. so it doesn't seem like having an alternative lifestyle bars you from being literary

so what is the problem? are trans people capable of producing art, and has there been any genuine art created by trans people that has stood the test of time? is the modern trans author a phenomenon brought by a problem with the publishing industry, or the nature of today's trans socialization, or some other issue? or are trans people categorically flawed in a way that prevents them from producing real art - and if so, what is this flaw?

i'm genuinely curious about your viewpoints on this because it seems like all trans writers are relatively modern and solely focused on identity, which is not something that you often see other gay people do
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>>24716664
>all worthy artists are trans who are anti-LGBT and would only have intercourse with the sex opposite of theirs, with very few exceptions that just serve to confirm the rule
FTFY cowboy, you're ready to roll!
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Idk about art but theres a lot of troons in programming/coding
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>>24716602
it's not "pedantic" to demand a basic understanding of history when discussing historical personages, or even just an appreciation that "the past" is distinct from the present at all. "sappho was lgbt" is helpless brainrot. blame it on /pol/ all you want but nobody with a three-digit iq will take you seriously when you say shit like that.
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>>24716677
>i'm using it as a descriptor of identity
identity that didn't exist at the time, hence the anachronism. also you yourself are very much "being an activist" when you say shit like this. you are working to create the false impression that a political movement from the 1990s is actually timeless and that it possesses some kind of privileged understanding of and the right to speak for historical persons who in fact would find the movement alien and revolting.
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>>24716684
I've noticed it too
it follows a pattern of fleeing from reality, doesn't it? I bet a large fraction of a stock market bets on "we keep their assholes massaged and they'll do whatever we tell them in exchange for money they'll spend on troonlogically obvious things we have a controlling stake in"
like a company store but for "non-heterosexuals"

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(Apologies in advance for essentially blogposting.) I have never really read any poetry until now (other than Epic poetry all of which I have read in translation.) I was previously only aware of a handful of names : Wordsworth, Keats, Yeats, from popular culture and have encountered the odd poem throughout my life, but know next to nothing about the tradition or history of poetry. I found myself unsure of where to start, and couldn't find many charts and haven't seen any posted here in a while. I was browsing in Waterstones yesterday and not wanting to buy any more literature as I am currently reading several books and my stack grows at an alarming rate. I thus decided to peruse the poetry section, and picked out picrel and bought it. I read the introduction last night which I found incredibly informative on the "Romantics." I feel enlightened somewhat on the history of the tradition, the term and the specifics of the stylings and content of such poets. I have now read a few poems from this collection and am enjoying them; varied as they are in subject. If anyone cares to spoonfeed me some recommendations or charts, or inform me on the other types of poetry I would appreciate it. What poetry does /lit/ like? Who or what do you enjoy reading the most when it comes to poetry?
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>>24716693
I don't read much of any poetry, but I really like James Tate. The Lost Pilot would be an example of his earlier style, and Long-Term Memory his later (more prosaic). This is the reading of his that I was introduced to him by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPJTXOMHTk4

There's a page on poetry on the wiki (see the sticky), but I can't vouch for it. Pic rel could be worth checking out, and the collection it mentions is still online.
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>>24716785
Thank you for the reply anon. Looking through the wiki now. I will check out James Tate's The Lost Pilot, I will probably opt to read it first. As for picrel lets see what I get.
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>>24716693
Nice horse. I wonder who painted it...
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>>24716693
poetryfag here. /lit/ knows nothing about poetry and most of the advice you get will be from anons who are much less interested in poetry as poetry and much more interested in poetry as heckin based trad memeword exemplar of the West, if that makes any sense. The Romantics are as good a place to start as any. Just read your picrel. If you like your picrel, check out Hopkins. After that, check out Whitman, Yeats, and Dickinson. (For Dickinson you want the edition of her selected poems titled Final Harvest ed. Johnson. Her complete work ed. Johnson or ed. Franklin is also fine, you just don't want the mass-market editions of her shit because they rape her grammatical style for no fucking reason.) You can more or less go wherever you want from there, but that'll give you the general overview of the poets who are the most influential to poets working today.
>but muh free verse is heckin cringe
Try not to think like this until you've read a lot of high-quality free verse poetry. This will make /lit/ very upset because /lit/ does not read poetry and thinks something has to rhyme and say "thou" or it's not poetry. Remember that /lit/ knows nothing about poetry. Regardless, you don't have to read contemporary work, or any poetry written in free verse, if you don't want to. (That would be a mistake but it's a free country.)
>>24716785
>James Tate
Great poet. If OP likes Tate, he'll like Bob Hicok and Tony Hoagland as well.
>chart
Chart's fine. A little fusty but all the poems and poets on there are worth reading.

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Why don't you buy your books from Amazon? They even sell used books now. You have no excuse. Assimilate or face re-education by labour at an Amazon warehouse facility!
>pic unrelated
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>>24715835
It's called "unmedicated schizophrenic who struggles with disorganised thought."
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>>24715895
I live in a medium sized rust belt city and the library closest to my house has 4-5 homeless regulars who are there all day. One of them is a kind of hippie raver homeless guy who often wears a ripped tank top that exposes almost his entire chest and back. They only ever leave to smoke cigs directly outside the door. Coincidentally, I was talking about them with my ex earlier this week
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>>24716463
theres nothing
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@ all

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>>24713329
I just go on liben or any of the other torrenting sites.
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I don't buy used books online unless its rare. Nothing worse than opening a used book to find some asshole highlighted half of it.

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Should I send my ex-coworker who was a piece of shit a pic of his face and a gorilla next to it or would it look like I'm still mad?
Btw we almost got in a fight and I made him leave once before because he felt "bullied" (I just talked shit back, he started it)
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>>24716792
stoicism is the best meme
maybe the mother of all memes
the meme that could kill you or give you life
but, at the end of the day, still just a meme

skepticism is where it's at, but the abuse of skepticism is a recipe for disaster and genocide (the genocide of meme-skeptics, not by meme-skeptics, ironically)

so yeah choose your poison... or be like aristotle and choose no poison but virtue lol

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>>24714836
Wasn't it gilt-tipped? Like, they were covered in gold?
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>>24714869
Based on this extremely specific criticism I take it the weird matriarchal orgies are historically accurate?
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>>24714869
>when someone from south Canaan shows up and preaches against the bull worship.
He charges the bull with a knife and dies, which is hilarious. How can you be mad about that?
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Is her Alexander trilogy good? I’ve been considering reading it because I’m on a historical fiction set in antiquity kick, but I’m worried it’ll just be purely about Alexander getting dicked down. I’m okay with a little gay shit, but I’m not interested in a full blown gay romance trilogy.
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>>24716296
Renault's men are poon hounds and hilariously chauvinistic, no worries

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How do you achieve enlightenment and reach Nirvana?
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>>24714819
You'll still have "your" memories and personality if you go to hell
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>>24715282
nope. not according to Buddhism.
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>>24715304
AN 3.36
>‘Worthy man, did you not see the third messenger of the gods that appeared among human beings?’
>They say, ‘I saw nothing, sir.’
>King Yama says to them, ‘Worthy man, did you not see among human beings a woman or a man, dead for one, two, or three days, bloated, livid, and festering
>They say, ‘I saw that, sir.’
>After grilling them about the third messenger of the gods, King Yama falls silent. The wardens of hell punish them with the five-fold crucifixion. They drive red-hot stakes through the hands and feet, and another in the middle of the chest. And there they suffer painful, sharp, severe, acute feelings—but they don’t die until that bad deed is eliminated.
Not to mention the many accounts in the pettavuthu where petas recall the deeds that led to their punishment
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>>24715383
None of that is Buddhism.
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>>24715383
Taking everything literally in the suttas is just as bad as taking everything literally in the Bible.


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