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Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding, yet a bunch of you people live as if your life still has value, or that your choices matter. The moment you deny God, you lose the right to claim that objective value, meaning, or purpose exist, or that something is right or wrong. But you cannot rule out the possibility of God either by default, because of cause and effect, and symmetry and order, etc.

If a mathematician was presented with the choice (A) guaranteed 0%, and choice (B) even a slight chance of >0%, the mathematician would be forced to choose (B), not out of fear or despair, but out of logic and rationality. If everything you believe in collapses without a creator, and you can see even a slight chance for His existence, you must have faith in Him; otherwise, your choice is emotional.

Most of you people do not want to be logically 100% consistent, and that is why you fail the test. You do not fail the test because you lack proof; you fail the test because you hate the truth.
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>>24957262
I believe that, if God exists, he punishes Pascal Wager takers and rewards honest non-believers. Now what, OP?
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>>24958220
My argument is not Pascal's Wager because it is not about risk management; it's about choosing the most logical option given the circumstances.
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>>24958284
Why do you assume picking a god to believe in creates an objective foundation? Why not simply accept that the universe, as it is, contains objective morality? We know that some experiences will reliably bring positive or negative states of being (pain and pleasure for example), so why can't you just appeal to reality as it presents itself as an objective basis for good and bad rather than creating a Being (which belongs more properly to myth and anthropology)? One doesn't simply prefer pleasure to pain, the essence of what pleasure is has desirability inherent in it. It is desirability in and of itself. Whatever that essence is will be our only possible hope for an "objective" basis for morality. After all, would you want to subscribe to an "objective" morality which diminishes the kind of good life which maximizes the positive states of being I referenced earlier? Isn't it suspicious to you that the "objective" morality of god isn't mass murdering and torture, but instead maps on to a primitive form of maximizing social cohesion? Why not simply cut out the rudimentary aid of a deity and use that as the metric, like the Greek "Eudaimonia"?
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>>24957262
This guy eats dogs.
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>>24957262
>Without God, meaning and morality do not have an objective grounding,
that's only true for the jews and the people who aped them

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Rereading McCarthy after reading better authors like Henry James and Marcel Proust, and it becomes obvious McCarthy was bitter he couldn't reach the heights of literary realism and domestic fiction.

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>>24957614
>filtered
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>>24954588
Just use the Ars Notoria and Speedrun that shit, cousin
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The Art of Reasoning: An Introduction to Logic and Critical Thinking
David Kelley

https://annas-archive.org/md5/b3288ea736070fc73fb93e3003d4ddd7
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Critical Thinking ; A Concise Guide
Bowell, Tracy, Cowan, Robert, Kemp, Gary

https://annas-archive.org/md5/4514ce30a924b80a1f89aed3fe88bdd8
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Revised Fundamental Methods of Logic
by Matthew Knachel and Sean Gould

https://cwi.pressbooks.pub/revisedfundamentalmethodsoflogic

"Chanukah" edition

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I'm toying with a new intro to my story. I'm mainly interested in: does it draw your attention? Do you want to read more? If not, why not?
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>>24958311
I lost interest in the first few sentences. Too much exposition
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>>24958311
If you could somehow condense the first three paragraphs into one you'd set the right pace
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>>24958318
It's hard to write compelling exposition. I recently read Demon Copperhead and based on its intro I wanted to try and imitate the sheer amount of soul it radiated, but I find it difficult as shit to do so in a way that doesn't add useless text.

>>24958324
I can cut out at least half the fluff writing, maybe I'll try that in the morning.
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>>24958341
Forget exposition. Just make the reader want to know what happens next

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Cavaliers vs Roundheads, who had the better literature? I admit the Cavaliers have a larger amount of great writers, but Milton and Marvell for the Roundheads is a nigh unbeatable combo.
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>>24953066
>destroys the popularity of Calvinism in England
Why was Cromwell’s government such a disaster?
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>>24953066
Sidetracking here, but does anybody know of any good books on the English Civil War?
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>>24958215
C.V. Wedgewood is known mostly for her book on the Thirty Years War but she wrote a trilogy on the English Civil War which is also quite good. Diane Purkiss also wrote a good one, A People's History of the English Civil War, which features a lot of excerpts from letters and memoirs from folks from all walks of life and beliefs and classes
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>>24958245
I forgot to also mention by Purkiss, since the books blended together in my memory: The English Civil War: Papists, Gentlewomen, Soldiers, and Witchfinders in the Birth of Modern Britain. Also includes a lot of excerpts from both sides and follows the lives of multiple regular people over the course of the war
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>>24958252
Thanks Anon. I'll check these out

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I made a zine that is basically an A3 sheet folded to make an A5 zine. I spread them around London and they are pieces of Romantic poetry, prose, essay as a means of encouraging the recovery our senses, our emotions and our humanity in the face of unprecedented de-humanising arising from tech

I'm wondering what your thoughts on it are?
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>>24956963
>zine
The word is magazine you illiterate faggot
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>>24957744
Anon, with all due respect, it is almost 2026. Edmund Spenser and John Donne are not my contemporaries. I exclusively read the greats, I know full well I do not match up to random poets in the 19th century. But it is not the 19th century. I'm a modern poet.

My aim with my poems is, like Wordsworth in lyrical ballads, to write poems that anybody can understand but also contain depth and meaning.
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Cool idea!

I can drop some more notes later, when I’m at a desktop, but what tool have you built this on?

I also know zines are pushed as the be all/end all of DIY publishing, because figuring out imposition (arrangement of pages for printing in a booklet) can be confusing without the correct software. But I think a saddle stitch booklet is often stronger.

At first glance you’re using a display font (meant for maybe >20pt) rather than a true text font. It’s spaced too tightly and the thin strokes will nearly disappear at text sizes. You use another serif (Times?) as well, which does work a lot better at that size. Using the two is strange, they’re too close together, but also too different, like striking a dissonant semitone upward instead of a solid chord.

Have a look at some really good typographers for inspiration (Wolfe Hall, Studio Ardworks, Joost Grootens, to name a few).
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i wont read the image but would definitely read it if i found it in the while. ive found some pamphlets and read all of them but i think they've all been conservative christian stuff, possibly all at airports
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>>24957779
Retard

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>another mid whore catapulted into fame and fortune for existing

That's it. This has gone too far, the woman problem HAS to be addressed now. Simping is an epidemic that is destroying society and it's only going to get worse.
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>>24956982
the standards are low
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>>24947980
She looks so much better in the gamestop uniform
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>>24947980
Haha OP I love vaggo XD
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Why exactly the fuck is this thread still up

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I recently got into Rilke, as I was reading the 8th of Letters to a Young Poet. I read the first Duino Elegies, and I felt it was a somewhat transformative poem. I'm not sure how others would relate, but I think one has to be in a specific psychological state to relate to or feel something from a poem on the first read, without any documentation to support them. It could be difficult, yet the raw understanding can be quite satisfactory.

>Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the Angels’ Orders?

This first line was shattering. It gave words to a feeling familiar to me, yet I could have never put it so beautifully. Isn't it true that when the dread of existence or loneliness, however you may say it, becomes so unbearable you start to question if the heavens, or anything higher you believe in, would answer to you, help you, console you with their warmth? Or, is it Camus's universe where silence is the only answer expected, although to a poet's ear, even silence could have words?

>and even if one of them pressed me suddenly to his heart: I’d be consumed in his more potent being.

I feel this is where it becomes truly relatable. Our own imperfections and fears make us feel inferior and abandoned, not worthy of love and help from a being superior in our eyes. I feel, not just for divine metaphors, but for even simpler things like a relationship, we often hide ourselves and our vulnerabilities so as not to be seen as weak or unmanly in order to keep our ground. And, this foolish attempt makes us even more inclined towards a lonelier life.

>Every Angel is terrifying.

It's similar to how Dazai expressed his fear of happiness, that the weak and miserable are even scared of happiness. Even if a chance comes for them to embrace the love and acceptance, they'd run from it and choose loneliness instead of the terrifying love of a superior being who is just loved.

The poem is long, and yet it tells this feeling of dread, loneliness, and meaninglessness so magnificently. I do not know any comparison to it, from my own relatable perspective.

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>hang a gun on the wall
>never use it
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>>24958195
Take that Chekov!
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Guns are decoration.

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What is there even left to read after him?? Why is his prose so good?
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>>24956591
KEK
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I wonder how much polish his editors put on his English prose.
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notice how nobody has presented a single piece of evidence disproving the pedophilia allegations - all they can do is deflect by saying that he also wrote about other things, which is not a disproval
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>>24946400
>Pungent but healthy
Is this what good prose is to you cuck?
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his prose can be a bit confining, read someone else and you're freed

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Apologize.
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>>24954102
NTA, but pretty much sums up his feelings about his entire life desu.
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>>24955733
Damn you're right.
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>>24955936
Dudes been my neighbor my whole life. Learned a lot of hidden history. Check out Nicossias books on him and his family and check out this site. https://whokilledkerouac.com/
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>>24950358
He should apologize to me for wasting my time with on the roadand another book of his that I don't even remember the title
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>>24957869
Hi, Jack here. Suck my dead dick. Btw got any booze?

Do you think Mrs. Reilly is a sympathetic character? Is the she a good mother in spite of her flaws?
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>>24958237
Found it too relatable?
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>>24958300
It's a contrived burlesque. It's not particularly deep and the gimmick wears off quickly.
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>>24958176
wasnt he trying to bang the mom or was that someone else
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>>24956957
His mother never showed him actual love. Ignatius lost his happiness when his dog died.
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>>24958304
How reductionist of you

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More and more i find myself dedicating into literature.
Finished Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose, this month.
Went to the bookstore today, no Eco books other than The Name of... were left.
Went to thriftstore, what's that ? Baudolino Hardcover for 1€
Came home checking online market place, Foucault's Pendulum and Pape Satan both HC, 3-5€ also in my town.
A thread died for this, i don't care. Tomorrow i will sit somewhere comfy and read my new books.
Post some surreal/artistic medival/renaissance/ super gnostic boys on mushrooms book covers.
Love you all, have a nice christmas !
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>>24957279
You came here to post this, even sadder.
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>>24957192
>Baudolino
Enjoy! Very entertaining book
Foucault's pendulum drags a bit in the middle but it's pretty good otherwise
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>>24957192
I picked up Foucault's Pendulum, but haven't read it or anything else by Eco. Should I try and find another of his books for a first impression or jump into this one?
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>>24958287
I've read The Name of the Rose only so far and it's really beautiful !
The only book where i couldn't put it down easily and read one more chapter before sleep.
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im mostly through baudolino

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Redpill me on Dr. William Pierce. Are his works worth reading?
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>>24943485
the fact that you are off your meds escapes no ones notice at this point
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Revilo P Oliver was a much better writer
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>>24941203
100% correct
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>>24958262
*marries a jewess and changes his views*
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Should I start with Eliade or Varg Vikernes for a better understanding of paganism?
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>>24956248
Varg has plenty of insight on his own because he's well read, it's his wife that thought of the groundbreaking stuff. But even then they aren't great writers or scholars, just laypeople.
You ought to read actual scholarly books like Religious Attitudes of the Indo-Europeans, or The Ancient City; as well as actual mythology like Hesiod, Ovid, and Pindar's Odes.
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>>24956361
>and is just a larp to push identitarianism and white supremacy
That's what you're inferring, not what he explicitly stated. Obviously the religious practices of a race of people are related to the race of that people. It's not an organized religion that is intended to reach out to anyone from any race and incorporate them into itself. They have their own traditions and culture that reflect their own race.
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paganism has been dead for 1500 years
any attempt to recreate it is a larp
cope and seethe
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>>24958204
Good luck with the Muslims. Maybe the Latinos will take your side since you're all Christian.
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Pagan LARPing is just Wicca for autistic incels.


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