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>this is a book meant to be read slowly and savored
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>>24786637
I know what you mean, anon. I had some chud get mad at me for reading The Savage Detectives in under a month (???) and then ask if I could reconstruct the timeline of the nonlinear middle section from memory and act like this when I said probably not and that I didn't care if I couldn't.
All the anons mocking you are this guy
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Yes, some books are written to be read slowly and savored, and some books are written to be read quick and smooth and enjoying the rollercoaster.
This is usually self-evident from the writing itself.
I do not need to be told how to read a fucking book.
Who is this person talking to me
God I hate people
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>>24787592
Those people didn't read it, they watched and listened to a performance of a written text and so did the crowds that gathered in ancient Greece to see Homer's works performed, they literally didn't read it.
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>we need tempo markings like in music
>each author has different tempo, rubato etc
t. Henry Miller or something to that effect
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>>24786672
tl;dr

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Why do we never mention the library and always talk about pirating? It's like a legal form of pirating and you can watch cool movies too with Kanopy.

It it a psyop to destroy trust in communities and make posters scared to leave the house?
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I go to the library about every 4 weeks, I take 3-5 books out each time. Most of the time I just browse but sometimes I'll request a book from a different library in my city and pick it up at my local.
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i went to a sold-out Michael Ondaatje reading at the Vancouver Public Library system's Central Library and the quality of the attendees bolstered my faith in society
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i worked doing research for some time for a well-known professor at McGill University.Had the run of their 13 libraries (12 million items), and though the pay was not brilliant, but I loved it.
Later spent time in the Canadian Centre for Architecture library, which was great in a different way.
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>>24784142
There are billions available for free on the internet, you don't have to go into an ugly building with stupid rules where someone recently pissed in the corner anyway just to read for free.
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>>24784151
>>24786935
the libraries are shelters because there's no shelters for the homeless. your taxes fund police and war but could fund the library and shelters instead but you vote for police and war over and over. it's really just your fault

Books on why 1993 stuck out as a particularly odd year in culture?
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>>24788568
I have watched most of it, and am interested but can't help but feel some of it reads like bad fictional writing. Also the dreadful Indian mispronouncing Kerouac and calling him Hunter S. Tthhhhh-ompson, how has he been presumably speaking and reading English his whole life but has never encountered the name Thompson. Would he call him Thhhh-om Yorke? Anyway, nice to find a fellow millenium-baby. I am from Reading but been living up north since I moved here for Uni.
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>>24788216
I'm partial to Scentless Apprentice and Territorial Pissings. I like School, too. But I'm a bigger Melvins fan overall.
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>>24785487
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>>24788578
Wrong video and song zoom-zoom
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>>24788576
Was in Reading recently, as it goes. Nags Head is a great boozer.

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Recommended reading charts. (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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>>24753638 (Cross-thread)

>Thread Question:
You are thrown into the world of the last book you read. Where are you, what are you doing and what are your plans?
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>>24781087
>paying for books
ngmi
oceanofpdf.com
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>>24787159
>>24787231
>>24787710
thanks.
>>24786984
i did read Cyteen but i didn't know that older female mc was her thing. i have the Chanur omnibus sitting in my backlog so i will probably give that a shot
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>>24788290
Not my fault your poor.
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>>24787785
Anon, I like paper.
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>>24787867
I forgot there were actually three women.

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prev >>24779455
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>>24788455
well best of luck anon
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When you come from a poor country and a culture that is caught between modernity and tradition in a perpetual frustration that often leads to death, misery and despair, and then you see people in the West in an even more severe despair despite all their success, you start to realize that our problems today are not because things really are that bad. They’re actually because everyone is a gigantic fucking crybaby. The Republican Party controls all facets of the American government and yet all that conservatives do is still cry all fucking day. It seems to be an addiction for the Western subject to act like this. He found the most success in world history, he got the exact society he wanted, he brags about his superiority over all other cultures and peoples. And yet, he just whines all day about how the Rapture is coming and “the West has fallen” and that Abdul has more kids than him and whatever. It is such an absurd spectacle to witness when you come from an actually struggling culture. This mentality will bring about the decline of the West far more than any external factor will.
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When a female smiled at me I didn't smile back. This is why I'm a virgin.
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>>24788472
what a strange post
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>get back home from work at midnight
>stay up late
>can't wake up before 11
>go to bed immediately
>wake up at 1 and can't fall asleep until 4 then can't wake up until 11
When will this nightmare end
I can work all night and sleep during the day, I can go to bed at 11PM and wake up at 5AM but it is absolutely impossible to get a normal 8 hours sleep at the times other people do.
>>24788462
The reason the west is successful is that people throw a tantrum every time society starts going to shit and power and wealth become concentrated in the undeserving and are not used for the public good.

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Especially if they are not banal choices like 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, etc; so we could all discover some interesting books we might never have heard of.

I'll start:
1) Civilization and Capitalism: The Structure of Everyday Life: 15-th18th century - Fernarnd Braudel.

2) Epitaph of a Small Winner - Machado de Assis

3) The Luneburg Variation - Paolo Maurensig

4) Earth: An Intimate History - Richard Fortey

5) River of Darkness - Buddy Levy
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>>24783839
Yale monarch's has some biographies on Anglo-Saxon kings I enjoyed. The only sort of boring one is the Athelstan one funnily enough. Athelred and Edward are both top tier.
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> Justine by de Sade
> Shakespeare's Language by Kermode
> Jew of Malta by Marlowe
> Sartor Resartus by Carlyle
> Lanark by Alasdair Gray
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Defoe - roxana
D’Annunzio - the flame
Ferri - the positive school of criminology
Lissagaray - the paris commune
Reich - the mass psychology of fascism
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>>24788416
Thank you for the rec kind stranger, looks good
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>>24782050
Thomas Nagel - The View From Nowhere
Mark Lilla - The Stillborn God
Desmond Seward - The Hundred Years War
Thomas Kuhn - The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions
Huston Smith - The World's Religions

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What's the appeal?
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>>24788513
PseudMaxxingRedditory, I see.
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People like it, or at least, get some comfort from it because simply waiting can be applied to anything big or small when it comes to life.
>>24788513
Beckett would call you a fag btw
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>>24788566
I would tell him no u
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>>24788271
Why is waiting for Gal Gadot? She's not even leng.
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>>24788295
fpbp

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What am I in store for?
>translation
I know you guys hate them. No need to say it every thread.

I heard they are preparing a newer volume set to contain the NRSV Updated Edition "ue".
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>>24788179
There are so many divergent viewpoints on Mormonism and the book itself that it would be hard to get them all together to produce something satisfying. Look at the geography theories for example.
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>>24788179
lol this is your brain on catholicism, literally cannot even function
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>>24788144
Thoughts on?
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>>24788183
It's worth a try.
>>24788184
I am protestant. If I was Catholic I would be seething.
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>NRSVUE
Isn't that the one that changed Arsenoikotai in order to be more politically correct?
Why would anyone trust a translation that changed something so clear? Paul went out of the way to create a term to make things more explicit.

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There's a stunning lack of enthusiasm for the dying words of a /lit/ legend.
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>>24787833
When niggas read they begin to write nigga slop like picrel.
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>>24786874
>they made the only person of color stand in the back
wowwww, this is just so cruel
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>>24788522
He's the tallest and widest presence. Obviously he's not gonna cover up a scrawny tranny or a manlet in the photo
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>>24788528
>encountering actual bigot logic
wowwww
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IT ARRIVED !
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>>24788448
Moby-Dick is a sort of Rorschach test of sorts. It tries to overwhelm you with all sorts of different symbols, styles and points of view, letting you the reader make whatever sense you want of it. The more sensitive you are to symbols, the more well-read you are, the more connections you make in your head. It's a very different form of reading, one where the author places you in a wilderness where you have chart out your own path, rather than following the author's guidance. This sort of book is taken to its extreme in V. and Gravity’s Rainbow, almost to the point of parody. Stencil looks for connections where there may be none. Ahab has his Whale, Stencil has his V, and Slothrop has his V-2.
I recommend rereading the Spouter-inn chapter where the chaotic picture on the wall is described. Various interpretations are raised by Ishmael, but he ultimately chooses to believe that the picture depicts Leviathan. It's just one of many different interpretations, but it clearly depicts Ishmael's mode of thought. Something similar happens to us when reading Moby-Dick - whether we view it as a boggy, soggy, squitchy book or as something more depends entirely on our point of view and how open we are to perceiving its structure and beauty.
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>>24788468
War and Peace was rich. I'm finding this dense.
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>>24788548
I dunno. Sounds an awful lot to me like wank to me. If an author has something to say, they should say it, or show it. Not just vomit out anything and everything and pose as if it's profound. And we shouldn't try justify things that are flabby. I'm at chapter 78 and feel as if 20 or so chapters could have been cut and the overall effect improved. Now I think about it, I experienced the same feeling reading the Iliad. But the lyrical rhythms and vividness carried me through it. I honestly think Melville has talent and depth but the lack of concision hurts the book. I guess I get this >>24788548 modern thrust it has in order to try and depict obsession through demonstrating it but I argue this is not beautiful classicism, it's just ugly modernism. Honestly I've yet to read an American novel I was really impressed with.
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>>24788591
Melville is often considered a proto-modernist, and I'd even argue his later novels get very postmodern. He was very interested in formal and stylistic innovation, so it's no wonder he was rediscovered at the peak of modernism.
I also think modernism>realism and Iliad>Odyssey. Different strokes for different folks.
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>>24788591
>It seemed plain that the whole must be a collection of those wretched imported daubs, which with the incredible effrontery peculiar to some of the foreign picture-dealers in America, were christened by the loftiest names known to Art. But as the most mutilated torsoes of the perfections of antiquity are not unworthy the student’s attention, neither are the most bungling modern incompletenesses: for both are torsoes; one of perished perfections in the past; the other, by anticipation, of yet unfulfilled perfections in the future. Still, as Pierre walked along by the thickly hung walls, and seemed to detect the infatuated vanity which must have prompted many of these utterly unknown artists in the attempted execution by feeble hand of vigorous themes; he could not repress the most melancholy foreboding concerning himself. All the walls of the world seemed thickly hung with the empty and impotent scope of pictures, grandly outlined, but miserably filled. The smaller and humbler pictures, representing little familiar things, were by far the best executed; but these, though touching him not unpleasingly, in one restricted sense, awoke no dormant majesties in his soul, and therefore, upon the whole, were contemptibly inadequate and unsatisfactory.

He finally explained the ending
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>>24786946
>his esoteric Hitlerist turn
link or elaborate
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who the fuck
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>>24786946
Kek, if only.
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>>24786937
Death of the author means I don't have to listen to your explanations
I reject your reality and replace it with my own
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>>24788602
Death of the author means authors should be killed and dismembered upon releasing their best work, it has nothing to do with authors' opinions.

What are your thoughts on John le Carré, cold war British spymaster?
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>>24788544
All his later books have a couple pages of the protagonist seething about drumpf
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>>24788544
I think he made the villains in his last books literal Brexit voters out of spite.

Carre's trajectory is an interesting window into just why Russia-hate is so embedded in our crusty old intelligence services.
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>>24788573
I mean, they had to live through the Soviet and global communism threat.
They probably just instinctively want to make sure that dog is dead with no chance of threatening their existence again.
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>>24788127
>I wasn’t expecting the main character to be cucked
First time reading a bong author?
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>>24788580
The intelligence agencies *are* a global communist threat

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In a recent study published by John Hopkins University students were asked to write a translation of the first few paragraphs of Bleak House in clear, modern English. They were given dictionaries, access to the Internet, and as much time as they needed. Despite this, 49 of the 85 students failed to do so. Sentence after sentence, they could not grasp what Dickens was saying; i.e., they were incapable of figuring out who or what a sentence was talking about, did not understand the imagery or metaphors, could not translate long or complex sentences into shorter, simpler ones, and could not identify the main ideas being described. As such, the researchers deemed this group to be "problematic readers"
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>>24785425
That's the part that gets me, they could've looked up anything they didn't understand, but chose not to because they believed they understood it well enough. This makes them the worst kind of moron.

>>24786805
it'll probably be archived by then rip
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>>24781402
That's not what Chancery courts did. They dealt with equity matters before the equitable jurisdiction was absorbed into the normal court system. Trusts, injunctions, specific performance, etc.
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>>24781386
bleak house is so fucking kino
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>>24786904
bump
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Dinosaurs aren’t real. I lost interest after reading that part

Tropical Beach Edition

FAQ:
>What is worldbuilding?
Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.
>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"
Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.
>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"
If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.
>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"
Yes, of course you can!
>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"
Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.

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So we can also post stories here? Will you guys actually read?
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>>24748733
Hello /wbg/, I'd like to know how the fuck a cultivation or litRPG setting is supposed to function. Pretty much most of the time you'll read about it the world is just an excuse for the protagonist to kill shit and level up but I wanna think up something that makes sense. How does a society in a world where you can apparently infinitely grow until you reach godhood if you're HIM work? What's the main motivation for people having kids in such a world?(Other than just the usual lust)
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>>24756931
The US only nuked two Japanese cities and that was enough. What would justify nuking half of Germany and where did the US find the capacity to build so many bombs so quickly? Why did Hitler chose to allow himself to be captured rather than committing suicide?
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>>24751690
I know exactly who you’re talking about so some of his art work. I’m also writing a Bronze Age setting for this game I’m developing, but it’s more low fantasy pulpy shit.
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>>24788196
Go to /wng/ for that


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