Should I watch the film adapted from the masterpiece of 2025 Nobel winner, or dive into the book first? I guess no one here will be able to read the book in Hungarian, and I'm lingering between the English and Russian translation (fyi neither of them is my mother tongue).
>>24785820If you can't imagine that maybe you are too retarded to read, sorry.
>>24785820>probably just watch the movie, otherwise it will be hard to imagine the context>this is advice on the literature board
the english translation is very good literature, szirtes is a poet and a friend of his and spent a long time getting it as good as it is.
>SATANTANGO>SATAN TANGOuhhh Im not engaging in your satanism, heathen.
>>24785663I've watched the film twice, both times in one sitting. It's really good. It's divided in chapters and the point of view characters keep changing, so it's closer to binging a mini series than watching a long movie. It goes flying. I have the book, but haven't read it yet. I've read The Melancholy of Resistance though and it's brilliant, and so is the movie.
Unemployement: The book
>>24786169It's exactly what he says, it's a joke of course, and there is more going on here. You did this in the other thread too, I'll say something true about what is in a given section and then you'll try to say it's a shit reading because it isn't complete. But I'm not pretending to give a complete reading, to do that you would want to situate the movement in observing within Reason itself as the unrealized certainty of being all truth, tie it to other moments in which spirit externalizes itself, etc. You would want to make explicit the parallels here with the whole movement of consciousness -> self-consciousness, in particular. Or if you actually believe that Hegel didn't think it was retarded to understand human beings in terms of external, sensuous determinations then I don't know what to tell you, you need to read it again.
>>24786169>>24786185
>>24786200I suppose the issue is I said "you should beat the crap out of..." which is of course not what Hegel is literally saying, like this is some violent propaganda meant to inspire you to join Antifa or some shit. So I was facetiously quoting a facetious passage. But yes, Hegel had contempt for people who thought humanity could be understood in these sensuous modes which he catalogues and explodes one by one. Remember what he says at the end about the organ of urination and the organ of reproduction? Normally it is an insult to be called a wanker but here I'd be happy to be the wanker and let the other guy be the pisser.
>>24785635Do you want to be some cringe STEMfag, "oh yeah I did this little experiment uhh maybe in 50 years it will cure cancer in mice", or do you want to be Dr. Frankenstein? Out of context I can't tell exactly what he is on about but looks like a standard dialectical progression.
>>24785635I hope you realize you've just called niels bohr(and others) a pseud, given that nobody reads hegel for his incorrect remarks on electricity
“Autobiography of a Yogi” (1946) is a fucking great book so far and I’d even call it a modern spiritual classic. If you’re looking to get into Hinduism but reading older texts like the Gitas, Vedas, or Upanishads generally sounds daunting to you, then this would be a great primer.(Yes, to get it out of the way, I understand people today and online have grievances against Indians, particularly for flooding en masse into Western nations like the U.S. and Canada, abuse of the immigration system and H1B visas, etc., but it’s still just a great book. I’m aware of the meme answers I’ll get in response.)As a story it’s incredibly entertaining, too. Yogananda has a great storyteller’s touch, a novelistic coherence to the whole thing, with lots of nested stories within the book and many fascinating characters met along the way. He’s a surprisingly eloquent stylist, too, the book is ornately written with poetic diction. Some people have made it a habit to mock Westerners today interested in Eastern spiritual teachings, the whole excesses, hypocrisies, or flaws from the hippie counterculture to the modern New Age movement and the like, associated with this spiritual tourism; but, when you study some authentic forms of Eastern spirituality, like the Kriya Yoga lineage brought to the West by Yogananda and its roots in Vedic teachings, it’s hard not to see why some people are impressed by it. They go more straightforwardly into some deeper philosophical exploration of core existential issues than, perhaps, the mainstream forms of religion that more in the West are familiar with (Christianity, Judaism, and increasingly Islam today from immigration) often do, in people’s experiences with them. And this is not necessarily even in a supremacist way, but in a harmonious and universalist way, open to other traditions and even claiming a possible shared origin and unity with them. Teachings like Yogananda’s make me see and respect Christ and Christianity in a profounder way, for instance, much as some may be angry or contemptuous of that very notion (out of the mindset of viewing religion like a competition).What do people think? Any other Yogananda enjoyers here? Am I a race-traitor for even appreciating some of Indian spirituality seriously as a Westerner? What’s going on in your heads?
>>24784758Nigger
>>24784763Pajeet my son you are like 85% African.
>>24784777Trips of truth — but Jeets are more capable of enlightenment *because* of their lack of self-awareness — I was just calling you nigger because you are fucking stupid
Autobiography of a Turd
>>24784700>Frankly there is a part of me that thinks eastern spirituality is just far deeper… sure the west is “smarter,” but there really seem to have been some Hindu masters who achieved enlightenment. Ramana Maharishi seems to have. Neem Karoli Baba might have really had special powers.Its almost entirely because eastern spirituality/religions (all of which pretty much exclusively derive from India) put the work majorly on you. There are salvific elements, but for the most part, its all on you.
"Frustration" editionPrevious: >>24766768/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Follow prompts made below and discuss written works for practice; contribute and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.(And maybe double-space your WIPs to allow edits if you want 'em.)Simple guides on writing:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>completed detailed outlines for like 6 different novels>never actually get down to writing them
>>24785578>>24785355Speaking of that, you could probably give ChatGPT a bunch of rules on how to write and let it rewrite your story based on that and it wouldn't appear like it's written by AI.
>>24785578ChatGPT is mediocre writing because it always goes for the statistical mean in its prediction of what people want out of an AI-generated story. I've seen movies riffed by Mystery Science Theater 3000 that were better written than AI slop - seriously, I'd take the original shooting script for Space Mutiny over an AI "rewrite" of it any day.If you're genuinely impressed by AI writing in any way, you've either read too few actual books/stories written by people or suffered severe brain damage.
>>24785959No. This is a family friendly story.
>>24785594Any time I try this I end up being unable to think about anything OTHER than cumming until I do.
>book flops>movie flopsPynch isn't having a good week.
>>24786301No, she's at a firing range.
>>24786229Pynchon still gets paid if 0 people buy the book or see the movie, lil nigga isn't working on commission
Really sad to see how far they’ve declined. Oh well, I’ll always have GR and TWBB and that’s the kind of works that what will define their legacies—not the mid stuff they put out in the latter parts of their careers.
I watched the trailer and there was a they/them pronouns joke. Was that in the book?
>>24786273It's comforting to know trash can still generate $112m.
>be gay hedonist>write definitive story of how being a gay hedonist ruins your life and destroys everything of beauty and value you touch>get your dick cut off and locked in a tower until you die>gay hedonists: "omg hes so based"I feel like the entire situation could have been handled better by all parties involved.
>>24786308What would society be like if women were the same way?
>>24786380>faggots love getting their prostates pounded.post hoc justification granted through porn obsession rather than anything grounded in reality. if the "g-spot" were a real phenomenon, fags would cum every time they take a shit.
>>24784920he literally fucked underaged boys named Mohammed in Algeria regularlyhe wasnt simply a "gay hedonist"he was a pedophile degenerateJust ebcause you like to tolerate gays doesnt make this subhuman one of your queer pets.
>>24786444you're so close to the truth, dude. so, so close. it's like the book. you open a door, they all open. relativism and its consequences.
>>24784920Did he really get his dick cut off?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J86C4IJTaFwThoughts?
>>24786227>>24786231Fuck, anons may have a point.
>>24778604legendary interview.
>>24786327glad I willed to post it
>>24778604
>>24781858Z/acc fag detected
>To be obliged to fight the instincts—this is the formula of degeneration: as long as life is in the ascending line, happiness is the same as instinct. Okay but how do you avoid decadence? It sounds like the instincts eventually lead to this.
How come /lit/ doesn't have comprehensive collections of downloads? Like /x/ has with occult books of every sort? Am I just missing something somewhere?
>>24786339I hate women so much.
>>24786339because there is no need for that. every book thats talked about on here is beyond easy to find online.
>>24786339So do I, but I have to goon sometimes.
>>24786339>mid mystery meat soft goth woman(?)I'm listening
Why did Tolkien make Sauron the titular character of The Lord of the Rings?
>>24785005Why would Sauron laugh if he was under the assumption that Saruman got the ring? Shouldn't he be worried?
>>24785295First thing Morgoth did after finding elves is dragging them to his torture and (spiritual) rape dungeon.
>>24784926>Eowyn disguised herself as a manRohansissies?
>>24784677>>24784686John Howe is so kino. Like there’s literally no sensible reason why the balrog should have a single arm armoured like an anime character except that it’s fucking sick- and it is.
>>24785843It's Frazetta.
Which e-reader do you have /lit/? Are you happy with it? Is it complicated to get books to it?I am thinking about the Kobo Libra but it seems like getting books onto it is an extremely convoluted process that involves Calibre, KOreader, some plugins, and I don't even know what. And then I looked into Calibre and the first thing I see about it is that it doesn't let you put books in your own folders and it copies your entire library according to its folder scheme. Is there a better library program and a better reader or a better overall experience that isn't like installing Linux? At this point from what I've read I think I should just continue buying actual paper books because this all just sounds like an extreme annoyance. Or maybe I just need to install a good reader program on Windows. What's a good Windows program to read books in like ComicRack for comics?
>>24778719read the prestige by Priest.
>>24777830>getting books onto it is an extremely convoluted processI just copy and paste the books I download with IRC.
>>24786152Why not just watch the movie?
>>24786164The movie changed a lot.They are both good in different ways. >>24786164
>>24786164For one example, one of them starts with doing séances, pretending to speak to the dead. The other annoyed that he pretends that they are real phenomena instead of magic storms the stage to reveal the trickery and in the scuffly the wife/assistant has a fall and a miscarriage.Their early sabotages of each other are a lot more corny. They are more like the nerdy obsessive people that magicians are, and less bowie-like rock stars that everybody thinks are cool.
why did this rendering of Judge Holden by some DeviantArt artist become so popular?
>>24782803It's funny how the best depiction of him is AI
>>24784365Harold Bloom?
>>24783164Lol
>>24782803>what are we, some kind of blood meridian?
>>24784391Excellent ragebait, sir.
Is the "Gen Alpha can't read" meme real? Like are 2025 9th graders actually showing up to high school not knowing how to write paragraphs?Or only the brown ones?
>>24786121>The population of "white" Americans under 30 is around 80 million as of right now>Not going by proportionalYeah and whatever that is I would halve that too
>>24786091What's the solution here? Balkanize North America? Just gather a chunk of all the smart white people into one section of the continent and declare independence?Bring back farm work? Maybe the idiots can till the fields.
>>24786429>Just gather a chunk of all the smart white people into one section of the continent and declare independence?Would never work, whites are genuinely retarded. Don’t forget that despite the last 30 years half of them are still staunch Democrats. Upon getting an ethnostate they would vote for immigration.
>>24785925People have always been stupid.It was normal for less than 5% of the population to go to college. People understanding their newspaper is the most arduous reading one must expect of them (not understand they are being lied to, but understand the propaganda message targeting them).
>>24786429>Balkanize North America?Lol no. They have to go back.
Schizophrenic or enlightened?
I wouldn't call it either of those things, if it works for you then great, I just found out it doesn't really work for me cause I get distracted by the other books so just one book at a time for me personally
im reading dozens (schizo)
>>24783533>Why do you post this nitwit pedophile Freemason's tool hereDon't talk about Leon like that...
>>24783356I like having a more "chill" / slop book and a more complex one for different moods.
>>24783356I have different books for different places. Currently it'sBed - War and PeaceToilet - All the Pretty HorsesCommute - a book about the House of CapetLiving room - a young adult novel in Russian (trying to learn the language right now)That way I can always read wherever I am without having to actually carry a book with me. I also try to read in different languages as to not forget them.
Especially if they are not banal choices like 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, etc; so we could all discover some interesting books we might never have heard of.I'll start: 1) Civilization and Capitalism: The Structure of Everyday Life: 15-th18th century - Fernarnd Braudel. 2) Epitaph of a Small Winner - Machado de Assis3) The Luneburg Variation - Paolo Maurensig4) Earth: An Intimate History - Richard Fortey5) River of Darkness - Buddy Levy
>>24782361>In the Miso Soup by Ryuu Murakaminta but someone recommended me this book a couple times almost a decade ago. is it worth reading? funny seeing it pop up after all these years
1) Italian Journey - Goethe2) The Book Of Disquiet - Pessoa3) Blood Meridian - McCarthy4) Butcher's Crossing - Williams5) American Pastoral - RothYou can mock me if you'd like, but I've never read any of these books, and especially I've never actually read Blood Meridian. I sat down and tried to read it a few years ago and it didn't hold my interest. But since it's such a /lit/ meme I'm going to try again. I'm going to give a lot of /lit/'s favorite books a try over the next few months.
>>24786395>1) Italian Journey - Goethe>5) American Pastoral - RothPlease make threads on these during or after reading them.
>>24786536Will do, Anon. Italian Journey is actually up next on the docket after I finish my current book.What's funny is that, actually, THAT book in particular I'm reading kind of for research. I've been at work on a very big story for a while, and my protagonists have gradually been journeying around the world, starting from the Southeast of North America. They're about to make it to Italy, and when I was in the planning stages of that leg of their journey, I remembered Goethe's Italian Journey and thought it would be fun for my protagonists to basically retrace Goethe's route through the peninsula.So, of course, I'll need to know that route, so I'm going to read the book.
>>24782510Nope. That's just an INTP