Why do we never mention the library and always talk about pirating? It's like a legal form of pirating and you can watch cool movies too with Kanopy.It it a psyop to destroy trust in communities and make posters scared to leave the house?
>>24787091This isn’t /pol/, I don’t care, and you don’t know my political views (Fichtean socialism if you must know). The library is a big beautiful building full of free books and anyone who thinks that’s bad does not belong here.
>>24787094Keep daydreaming about it, maybe another 150 years of enabling homeless people to shit on the floor will finally unlock the golden age man.>>24787098If you think violence is necessary or useful you are retarded. These are systemic issues. The best you can do is make yourself useful and try to moderate the worst aspects of whatever is coming next.
>>24787101The library is a beautiful place which is why I'd like to be able to go there without being threatened. I didn't ask you to care about anything, I know it's impossible to emotionally convince a woman (spiritual or physical) of anything.
>>24787115You weren’t threatened, a street person misheard you. You are such a fucking pussy, probably grew up in a rich area.
>>24787110No, I'm sure the Masons will continue to trick you ass-hats into crushing people's movements so they can rule over you with your own miseries. Till it becomes so easy to kill the whole Earth in one button. GG faggot.
Recommend me a book that provides a compelling case for spirituality. I cannot imagine such a thing existing when you can turn human beings into pic related with cold, material science.
>bro don't make any laws restricting people's freedom at all that's inevitably going to descend into mass murder, just keep letting hundreds of thousands of people kill themselves and their children on fentanyl while the rest of the population is single and childless and morbidly obese and addicted to porn
>>24786603This is America on socialism
>>24786775>>24786898I watch my uncle fent slump every day
>>24786636I remember reading that. Very interesting. Good for someone who is not religious trying to understand the avenues people take towards religious experiences. Does a very good job expressing how somthing feels. Or just for someone trying to expand their appreciation of religion more broadly.
>>24786603>How can math exist when numbers aren't actually real?This thread is an embarrassment.
>tfw you realize Hume and Kant as much as Nietzsche, Rawls as much as Nozick, are all basically part of a dogmatic faith tradition that sustains itself through indoctrination and the marginalization of all objectors, and has spread itself across the globe through coercion and violence.>tfw radical politics cannot break free of this path because it cannot itself question the core dogmas of the new faith>tfw the dogmas and faith of everyone around you are completely transparent to them, in much the way a fish might not notice water or think much about what lies beyond its boundaries. Particularly, because the dogmas dress themselves up in the clothes of epistemic humility and skepticism, their absolutizing nature has become invisible.Is there no escape bros?
>>24784494>So, why then is contemplative knowledge written off?because it consistently leads to different results, and various traditions have their own mechanisms to invalidate others' insights, like saying it's a demon deceiving you or mayayou can see this in action in every single thread where there's a tradcath arguing with a prottie arguing with a buddhist arguing with a hindu arguing with a guenonfagthe simplest path is to reject this entirely and chalk it up to human error
>>24786204Why are you bumping this low-quality thread? Everyone here has bought into this simple story about le evil nominalists and they're repeating the same points over and over again. There is no connection between nominalism and conceptualism and liberal individualism as such. Nominalism/conceptualism is a theory about how intelligibles are related to sensibles; it does not posit that we make up our own reality, Abelard and Occam were both devout Aristotelians and would have found such a view insane. So everyone here is living in an intellectual fantasy world where you have, on the one hand, le Based Bearded Wise Men, and then a bunch of cuck, bad, perhaps Jewish modern thinkers. Then there's this neat little narrative where nominalism/conceptualism, which is really just radical Aristotelianism, is supposed to cause all of these social changes that you don't like. It's bullshit. You faggots don't even know what nominalism IS, you think it means denying substance, or denying intelligibility. Philosophy is being instrumentalized for modern political purposes by the zoomer chuds ITT.
>>24777466>uhhh Kant is a dogma too! It's faith!This is the type of argument you expect from an evangelical teenager.
>>24784494>muh intellectual intuitionChrist almighty do you guys have a script you work off of?
>>24786262>because it consistently leads to different results, and various traditions have their own mechanisms to invalidate others' insights, like saying it's a demon deceiving you or mayaWhy doesn't this invalidate empiricism and instrumental reason? It's not like hardcore eliminativists, idealists, post-moderns, or linguistic turn analytics agree on fuck all either.Actually, Hindus, Taoists, Sufis, and Christian mystics all seem to agree more than these folks. They all have a virtue ethics, they all prioritize higher appetites over lowers and decry a sort of false consciousness, etc.
In a recent study published by John Hopkins University students were asked to write a translation of the first few paragraphs of Bleak House in clear, modern English. They were given dictionaries, access to the Internet, and as much time as they needed. Despite this, 49 of the 85 students failed to do so. Sentence after sentence, they could not grasp what Dickens was saying; i.e., they were incapable of figuring out who or what a sentence was talking about, did not understand the imagery or metaphors, could not translate long or complex sentences into shorter, simpler ones, and could not identify the main ideas being described. As such, the researchers deemed this group to be "problematic readers"
>>24781402The part in parentheses isn't actually in the page and also false.
i'm a /g/entooman, I will try this tommorow, haven't read most of the thread yet, have a bump
>>24781902>HowDon't tell anyone but capitalism
>>24785425That's the part that gets me, they could've looked up anything they didn't understand, but chose not to because they believed they understood it well enough. This makes them the worst kind of moron.>>24786805it'll probably be archived by then rip
>>24781402That's not what Chancery courts did. They dealt with equity matters before the equitable jurisdiction was absorbed into the normal court system. Trusts, injunctions, specific performance, etc.
Be real with me, I haven't read any of their literature, but the website for the local lodge in my area says they're all about personal development, charity, and friendship That sounds pretty nice, honestly, and I think all their symbolism is really interesting. If I join the Freemasons, will I go to hell? That's what I've been told. What's so bad about joining them? What literature should I read that exposed them for being devil worshippers?
>>24779229They are still relevant, we just call them jews now.
Not too knowledgeable about the subject, but is there a difference between A light bringer and THE lightbringer? Do all references to lucifer only mean the lucifer of the fall, or is it a generic title. Since gods grace is pretty generically referred to through the analogy of light ("Let there be light”), so anyone who would be in service to his message would be a light bringer or lucifer. Including someone who use to be a light bringer before he fell from grace. Every angel or prophet is a light bringer in this sense.
>>24786070Personally I think it's a title, that's been applied to Christ, and then people have misinterpreted it (some on purpose) to tie him to *the* Lucifer.
>>24786070IT IS I, THE LIGHTBRINGER
>>24786070It is used in a few different contexts in scripture, but it is important to know that contemporary critical scholarship prefers "morning star" to "light bearer". Lucifer, as we know him, tries compete with God, who is symbolically represented as the Sun, and Venus, the "morning star" is astrologically associated with pride because it can sometimes be seen in the morning as a false Sun. In the context of Revelations 22, which is often what people refer to when they call Jesus the "light bearer", the passage is explicitly about him transcending material reality. "And night shall be no more: and they shall not need the light of the lamp, nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God shall enlighten them, and they shall reign for ever and ever."The fundamental confusion is due to a presuppositional gnosticism. It's like saying "King Solomon was wise, but he fell into paganism, thus we must conclude that any utterances of one's wisdom is a reference to Solomon, and in that regard they are contrary to God of the Old Testament".
I prefer Jane Eyre.
>>24785642Why? Jane Eyre just felt like some self-insert LN/VN story where the plain fem protag is quiet most of the time but is hit on by multiple men for some reason. Not to mention that miraculous ending where her husbandfu conveniently becomes blind and has to rely on her for the rest of his life.
>>24785642I want to be more rounded in my reading of the classics.Which Brontë do I start with, bros?
Me too.
>>24786002I really like ho Jane Eyre just gently taps gothic horror. This transfers into atmosphere of the book, it has mood of cold misty wet autumn morning. I also enjoyed Jane and Rochester as both are disagreeable, but not too much - they are not defined by singular trait, which makes them very human. Final thing I enjoyed in Jane Eyre is the 'feel' of Britain as global empire with colonies, even though Jane Eyre is very small scale story. Overall it never overdoes itself, it is very tasteful and decent in womanly way.
>>24785642I prefer gonorrhoea.
God exists. That is self-evident. The real question is his nature. In many respects he has to be at the least uncaring and at worst evil. However, the existence of love, forgiveness and beauty in the world means that there is goodness in him also. Are there any books/religious traditions that explore God's moral ambiguity?
>>24786610That's just because indians breed a lot, not because Hinduism is as widely influencial as Christianity
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>>247866101.3 billion scat worshippers aren't human.
>>24786176>hishehimThe reason that God created Atom first is because its a chick. That God was just using one of many Pen Name personas as intermediary. To say otherwise, as a catholic/christian/etc, would imply God is gay. Do you really think a male god would make a man first? Not a single chance. A male God would have made Ever first.In the case you're not a SUBscriber to the above religions, let us take a different point of view to as well address you: Is it more a masculine or feminine a thing to observe, to inspect from a celestial vantage point? Think about whether or not it is a feminine thing for a powerful demigod or higher level being to go about staring and spying upon things?......It is almost wholeheartedly a feminine affair. Masculine entities of such power levels self substantiate and participate directly in terrestrial affairs. They interact in person with a manifested avatar. They dominate. They do not touch gently and gracefully and elegantly from the clouds as females do.What a closeted species you've been. HA. Buncha gayligions ya got here monkeys, what a wonder you've gotten this far. But it is quite comfy, isn't it? Anyway, feel free to enjoy these continual investigations and believing whatever you want about the..... moral ambiguity........ of beings far beyond. So very strange
>>24786693I could’ve sworn I had a smuggie just for this.
Is it good?Im just looking for something good. I read most of the classics already, I just wanna fall into something you know. Or I might read War and Peace. Whats the last good book you read that was a fine and pleasant read throughout?
>>24786340It felt like the book form of Oscar bait. I found it annoyingly insincere.
>>24786340I loved it, but I also read David Copperfield when I was in middle school so it struck my nostalgia pretty hard.The ending is a little rushed though. I wish it had more of an epilogue.
i couldnt bare reading any further after the young childhood part ends and his highschool years start. what i read felt incongruent and most importantly uninteresting. maybe i didnt read enough, its structured as if its a slow burn leading some where but my gut told me it wasnt worth any more time.
>>24786340why not just read the original book? i don't understand these re-telllings
>>24786479>It felt like the book form of Oscar bait.It's called Pulitzer bait, and it worked
tis this year’s nobel winner? lmao who fell asleep on the keyboard while naming him
Gross
>>24785427>work is le pessimistic therefore it's le goodWhen will this meme die?
>>24786628I have no pronouns and I expect everyone to refer to me with proper nouns only.
nouns are a meme
>>24786728Okay, Faggot.
Tropical Beach EditionFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Old Thread: >>24667235
Do you have ghosts in your story?
God these threads are shit.All anyone does is posts bumps, vaguely gesture towards their story they'll never write, or ask question in hopes othe problems do the leg work for them.Or worse some pedantic asshole comes and says "that is le derivative"
>>24785810I just wanted to post that Sadako pic
>>24786736You could've posted that anywhere else and gotten more traction.
Do you write your worldbuilding documents like a wiki or more like an instruction manual for yourself?
>fascism is le...bad?
>>24786020>>24786072You didn't read them. The only book that can deserves this criticism is Solenoid.
>>24786941>implying Pynchon is a chud
Real N-words know that awards in the humanities almost always reward mediocrity and conformism rather than quality. Winning too many awards is a sign of an unoriginal, cowardly, establishment-approved author.
>>24786970You mean niggers?
>>24786861Heinlein Starship Troopers
Icebreaker: what are your favourite commentaries/secondary sources for understanding Plato?Robin Waterfield's The First Philosophers is something I find myself going back to every time a really get into a dialogue. Even though Plato is never really the focus of the book at any point, its really good for contextualising his philosophy alongside what had gone before. Not only does it help one distinguish what might be original ideas from mere developments or rearticulations of already existing ones, but its also useful for clarifying some of the more esoteric references. Take Phaedo for instance, the dialogue ends with the hemlock working its way through Socrates: >[the man administering Socrates the poison] felt it himself and said that when the cold reached his heart he would be goneAccording to Philolaus:>there are four sources of a rational creature - brain, heart, navel and genitals […] Head for thought, heart for soul…Therefore, there implication by Plato here is that Socrates' soul left his body at the point the cold reached his heartPrevious Thread: >>24705276 Recent Plato-related threads: >>24746113 (Will studying Plato give me wisdom on the nature of the soul?)>>24745236 (Academic consensus on Plato's metaphysics/epistemology?)>>24732342 (how does the physical world relate to the world of Forms?)>>24728045 (why did Medieval Christians prefer Aristotle over Plato?)
>>24784383Either download a few and compare them or just go with Loeb.>understand the allegory of the cave Start reading from the chapter right before the allegory. I think the allegory was at the start of chapter 6 so start with 5.
>>24768639choose wisely >that insipid windbag Proclus>I have here referred to Proclus because in him this procedure becomes specially clear through the frank audacity with which he carries it out. But in Plato also we find some examples of this kind, though not so glaring; and in general the philosophical literature of all ages affords a multitude of instances of the same thing. That of our own time is rich in them. Consider, for example, the writings of the school of Schelling, and observe the constructions that are built up out of abstractions like finite and infinite—being, non-being, other being—activity, hindrance, product—determining, being determined, determinateness—limit, limiting, being limited—unity, plurality, multiplicity—identity, diversity, indifference—thinking, being, essence, &c. Not only does all that has been said above hold good of constructions out of such materials, but because an infinite amount can be thought through such wide abstractions, only very little indeed can be thought in them; they are empty husks. But thus the matter of the whole philosophising becomes astonishingly trifling and paltry, and hence arises that unutterable and excruciating tediousness which is characteristic of all such writings. If indeed I now chose to call to mind the way in which Hegel and his companions have abused such wide and empty abstractions, I should have to fear that both the reader and I myself would be ill; for the most nauseous tediousness hangs over the empty word-juggling of this loathsome philophaster.t. Schopenhauer>in Proclus we have the culminating point of the Neo-Platonic philosophy; this method in philosophy is carried into later times, continuing even through the whole of the Middle Ages. […] Although the Neo-Platonic school ceased to exist outwardly, ideas of the Neo-Platonists, and specially the philosophy of Proclus, were long maintained and preserved in the Church.t. HegelHegel is not the german Aristoteles but the german Proclus.t. Feuerbach (meant as Kompliment, kek)
>>24785000the Eleusinian Mysteries were a cult dedicated to the gods of Persephone and Demeter. People would become initiated into the cult in return for promise of favourable treatment in the underworld. Regarding psychedelic experiences, no one seems to know for sure, although I've heard there are theories that say such. I do know however that similar things have been said of the Oracle of Delphi who it is suspected would inhale hallucinogenic gases before delivering her prophecy. Plato referenced the mysteries quite a few times throughout his works and Socrates shows a certain degree of reverence towards their teachings, even if he doesn't claim to fully understand them.I admit I don't have the most comprehensive knowledge on this subject (hence why I want to read into them more) but other smart anons on this thread might be able to chip in with some deeper insight
>>24785000The Eleusinian Mysteries were a kind of immortality cult devoted to Demeter, and based somewhat off of the Homeric Hymn to Demeter. Details are scarce because speaking openly about them was punishable by death, but one can infer pretty easily the connection between what Demeter stands for (the cycle of natural birth, death, and rebirth of the seasons and crops) and the expectation of being granted an immortal soul. It used to be somewhat exclusive, but it started taking on broader groups of initiates during the 5th and 4th centuries. There was apparently a kind of procession of initiates to the cult site, with some kind of visual spectacle of the things in Hades being acted out, followed by entering a dark temple where one would see a flash of light revealing a stalk of grain.As for psychedelics, it's not well established. Ergot has been found at one site conducting Mysteries away from Eleusis, but nothing from Eleusis itself, nor other Mystery sites that would establish it as an intended component. It's known from what brief descriptions exist that the initiates drank kykeon, which is mentioned in the Homeric Hymn to Demeter, but it probably would've just been a mix of wine and barley, and kykeon is made fun of by both Aristophanes and Theophrastus as a drink the poor use to get drunk, so it doesn't seem to be notable for being anything other than boozy.I went over some of the ways the Mysteries come up in Plato at >>24772713.
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>went to buy classic 1980s fantasy paperbacks >stuff that often have a 50 cent stamp from book stores>"That will be $80 + fee + shipping + tip + tariffs"Hipsters have destroyed the vintage book market and have made it impossible for us actual collectors to buy them at the proper price. They are now charging obscene amounts of money for disposable fantasy trash market novels. Stuff that used to sell for 50 cents in used book stores, they are now demanding between $50-$100 per book because of all the youtube 'book haul' hipsters.
>>24786441Look at /mu/. You can compare threads on the archive to now. It used to be the home of hipster culture on 4chan. That culture is completely dead.
Holy wah wah wah shut up you fag my god
>>24786454>we should all be celebrating getting absolutely cucked
Hipsterdom is so thoroughly dead that I can't even find the old "hipster is a meaningless perjorative" copypasta on the archive any more
>OP raging because he can't consume pulp fantasy anymoreThose hipsters are doing you a favour, and youdon't even realise it.
Especially if they are not banal choices like 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World, etc; so we could all discover some interesting books we might never have heard of.I'll start: 1) Civilization and Capitalism: The Structure of Everyday Life: 15-th18th century - Fernarnd Braudel. 2) Epitaph of a Small Winner - Machado de Assis3) The Luneburg Variation - Paolo Maurensig4) Earth: An Intimate History - Richard Fortey5) River of Darkness - Buddy Levy
>>24786395>1) Italian Journey - Goethe>5) American Pastoral - RothPlease make threads on these during or after reading them.
>>24786536Will do, Anon. Italian Journey is actually up next on the docket after I finish my current book.What's funny is that, actually, THAT book in particular I'm reading kind of for research. I've been at work on a very big story for a while, and my protagonists have gradually been journeying around the world, starting from the Southeast of North America. They're about to make it to Italy, and when I was in the planning stages of that leg of their journey, I remembered Goethe's Italian Journey and thought it would be fun for my protagonists to basically retrace Goethe's route through the peninsula.So, of course, I'll need to know that route, so I'm going to read the book.
>>24782510Nope. That's just an INTP
>>24786395Carlyle has an essay on Cagliostro worth checking out before Italian Journey (Goethe was interested in the C phenomenon and actually met up with his family when on his travels)
>>24786561that's just pseudoscience
How do you respond without sounding mad?
I don't respond, and that's what nobody else did.
>>24787027I give the tiny fish an open ended short response prompt, and if he impresses or interests me with it I give him the scale, if not, I do not.However, I might occasionally feel charitable and give it anyways (I will still inform him that his writing did not impress me).