>My favorite authors are McCarthy, Pynchon, DFW, Tolkien, Mishima, Rand, Dostoevsky, Nabokov and Wolfe
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>>25178911D- is the best I can do, and that's just because I don't want to see you repeat a grade
>>25178911-icles in anon’s mouth (mine that is)
>>25178496I wonder, did you actually lyfao? I often do when I see someone type this in a thread. Sometimes it’s warranted but I have to say, you should work on your sense of humour if you found the post above you funny in some way.
>>25178461I like cat pics in the OP
>book has 20+ page long chapters
Harry Potter is notorious for this.
>short story is 30-40 pages
Does something like this exist in Western literature? An amoral main character with no sympathetic qualities, yet whom you're still supposed to root for?All the examples I can think of a "villain protagonist" either are actually an anti-hero, or you're waiting for his downfall.
>>25179545So is Reverend Insanity, though that fact is generally lost on western readers.
>>25179990Currently reading it, have not read other chinkshit, and I think it's hilarious.
>>25179990To be honest, reading any translated Chinese text without at least cursory knowledge of random cultural artifacts is difficult. Every other sentence is an idiom or a reference to an obscure (in the west) piece of classical poetry or literature. Every saying, or even word, has multiple readings which are often intentionally baked in. Most languages have these features, but few use them so often.This is made worse by people who see that RI is popular and read it without knowing anything about Xianxia in general.
>>25178600The ending is so fucking funny, I really need to re-read that book.
>>25180151>reading any translated Chinese text without at least cursory knowledge of random cultural artifacts is difficult. Every other sentence is an idiom or a reference to an obscure (in the west) piece of classical poetry or literature. Every saying, or even word, has multiple readings which are often intentionally baked in.Maybe classical Chinese texts are like that, but most modern writing isn't that deep.
Where do you usually get free e-books for your Kindle?
i rent the .epubs from the local library
>>25178037Heh yeah dude sign me up!
Standard eBooksall public domain works, but well formatted
>>25178081good find
nice try mister glow in the dark
Clark Ashton Smith editionNotable Authors: H.P. Lovecraft, Thomas Ligotti, Robert Aickman, Clive Barker, Edgar Allan Poe, Algernon Blackwood, Shirley Jackson, Stephen King, William Peter Blatty, Robert Bloch, Bram Stoker, Mary Shelley, Edogawa Rampo, Arthur Machen, Ambrose Bierce, M.R. James, Sheridan Le Fanu, Brian Evenson, William Hope Hodgson, Clark Ashton Smith, Frank Belknap Long, Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin R Kiernan, Laird Barron, Jack Ketchum, Richard Laymon, Brian Lumley, Stefan Grabinski, Peter Straub, and many many moreDiscuss your favorite horror tales in both short and long form. What have you read lately? What do you want to read? What's a work of horror fiction or an author who you want to recommend?
These are $1 each so I got them, just for convenience. I’ve read through HPL’s stuff all about 3-4 times each on average so I was hoping to branch out to new stuff. I’m a big fan of Ramsey Campbell’s and Robert Bloch’s Lovecraftiana.
>>25178574In paper?
>>25178574I know those are cheap, but honestly most of them are on Anna's Archive for free and that's where I get them from.
>>25125217discordgg/zfVbW8yZm
>>25178574>>25179034>>25179937Del Rey has a nice selection of Lovecraft-inspired weird fiction collections.
The Divine Comedy blew my mind
>>25179674i weep for your youthalso, have you guys been getting a new captcha with photos? or is my computer infected now?
>>25179541it was pretty mid, but I didn't read it in the original Italian
>>25179562trvth nvke
>>25180324Dont worry. The moment you say your book is like The Divine Comedy you'll be instantly rejected.
>>25179541>”intellectuals” who grow up secular dont understand the concept of hell until their mid 30sgrim
>1 books completed>3 books behind schedule
I'm 7/15 but 3 of those were manga so I'm more like 4/15.
;)
>scheduleI've read 2 books this year so farmaybe I'll read 1 moremaybe I'll read 100 more
>>25179300sure thing kat williams
>>25179300>>25179308>>25179351You read for enjoyment, for learning new (for you) ideas and concepts and to be able to understand fully more complex and/or historically formed from previous sources ideas and concepts, which in addition to better understanding of world, man, logic and other various entities and their structures also leads to more enjoyment of better quality and better variety of it.So reading certain books you don't like, that nevertheless are the foundation of some books, concepts and ideas, that came later, if only as a thing refuted by those newcomers, is important to properly understand this newcomers in the first place.Which is precisely why "start with greeks" is a good advice even when it is parroted mindlessly.
I keep hearing how Shakespeare stole from other works before himHow true is this?Which works specifically did he steal from?
>>25179190If you actually bother to read The Golden Ass you'd know they are nothing alike. For one, Lucius is turned into a donkey, not just his head. Isis is also not tricked into falling in love with Lucius like Titania is with Bottom.
>>25179091Pablo Picasso said "Good artists borrow; great artists steal."
>>25178970He and Marlowe (and many others) were heavily influenced by Holinshed's Chronicles but I wouldn't say they "stole" anything.
>>25179157
stole? you love rules dont you anon
Where have all the serious, urbane, book-reading men gone and why have they been replaced with women?
>>25179887Your manufactured sense of ownership over the simple act of reading is no more and your tears and frustration are necessary for growing into that understanding.
>>25179887They're reading in their parents basement. Right where society left them.
>>25179887You just know this shelf setup was bought on credit that will never be paid back.
>>25180489Cope. She probably has a six figure HR job
>>25179887Men are checking out of society at an alarming rate
You know what I find most enjoyable? All this negativity is now reflected back on to the world. When hopes and dreams crumbled the world crumbled and when the world fell apart hopes and dreams fell apart.Even the normalfags stuck in their little box are feeling the negativity now and beginning to suffer.Even better the rulers of this world are feeling the heat because we can all see them flailing in vain trying to keep the lies from unraveling. The yawning cesspit of corruption and lies and filth and treachery and debauchery.Every one of them is boiling alive.
So Clive is just a BDSM Stephen King? What are your thoughts on his work
>>25179297I don’t fear women they’re just annoying and dumb. They also keep trying to have sex with me probably because of my disinterest
>>25178800Stephen King wishes he could write something as brilliant as The Hellbound Heart. That story uses murder as an allegory for infidelity. The similarities between sexual desire and violence are perfect mirrors of each other. It's the sort of brilliance that can only come from editing your story, which Stephen King never does.
>>25179620degnerate pervert here, never diagnosed, never medicated, still jolly.
well if you were to consult his early life section you would understand why.degen faggot writes degen books. I like hellbound heart quite a lot tho.
>>25180409King has more range than Barker.
Talk about poems/poets you like, post your own work, and critique others.
>>25168823I don't recall hearing or seeing the word ordeñar before; I regret immeasurably that this is my first encounter with it. 10/10. Keep writing.
>>25143522>Each word she spoke fell into the earth.That's a really good line, anon.
>>25180143How? It's quite pedestrian
I’ve been on my own, I’ve been looking at my phone,I dream of you but goon alone.Moral panic where’d you go?Sit and watch the final show.On my way to work, watching booty twerk.VR commute the only perk.All the forests underground.Hardcore porno all around.Back inside my cave, gooning all I crave,This is how I must behave.If I stop, I think I’d cry.Edgemax daily till I die.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
wmbf > wmafBecause their ‘love’ is cold tea and textbook smiles,a game of checkers where no one gasps, no one moans, no one truly bleeds.Whilst theirs, his, hers,is fire and teeth,flesh and conquest,the only sin worth committing.He doesn’t look at them.In a world that crowns other unions as ideal,he chooses her, dark, radiant, commanding,seeking the fullness that answers him in her.He doesn’t want their thighs as thin as incense sticks,nor their sighs that taste of nothing.He wants fire.
We should be more like the Japanese
>>25179270A most cultured nation indeed
>>25179273>I think after their collapse in 1991 (I believe) they’ve been in a somewhat depressive state financially look up the japanese lost decade and the bubble era. its exactly what you’re talking about. basically they went from excess money to scraping by and due to their recruiting methods every salaryman job college graduates wanted were never given because companies didnt let go of anyone and never hired new, younger workers. its quite fascinating
>>25179270NTRThe art of ...
>>25173608Hilariously, it's the Jewish (otherwise known as American) influence that helped shape some of the worst parts of contemporary Japanese culture.
finding books i like translated to my native tongue is pain in the ass. so if i ever find (used) books i might like i buy those right away, amount of books i have yet to read keeps growing but atleast i got them. buying second hand books, atleast in my case has been relatively cheap hobby.not to mention all the books published in english have downloaded in ebook formats filling my hard drives and ereader.
>Genesis was a snore fest of lineages that I didn't bother to remember(This begot that guy, that guy begot him, him begot he, no one in-between has any relevance to the plot so you could've just skipped them and said that he was a descendant of this guy)>It still had enough edge/grit/tension to keep me reading through it>Start Exodus, know that there were alot of adaptations and homages to it so maybe this one is better>The entire first act is just a cycle of Pharoah refusing to let 'em go, then a plague comes, then he let's them go before saying 'SIKE!'>The rest of the book is a tent building guideYeah, I think I understand why even the fans don't even read ts
>>25179686if you wanted story you would of read 1Sam 2Sam 1Ki 2Ki Dan Mt Acts Rev, but you wanted something boring to complain about
>>25178804Yeah, I read The Lotus Sutra in one day while reciting a lot of it. I read a very dense academic translation of the Upanishads in only three days. I read other theological or philosophical texts (e.g., Daoism, Gathas, Pali canon, Republic, etc.) in only a few days.However, reading the Genesis and Exodus fills me with revulsion and genocidal lust towards the Jews. I can also barely push through it. I dropped it after Moses goes on Mt. Sinai as YHVH acts like an autistic cacodemon with all his inane requests. I have other books to read, so I am thinking of just dropping the Bible entirely. It doesn't help that I keep getting harassed by Orthobros on this one server I'm a part of.The Pentateuch seems like disgusting garbage to me. Jews massacring people who are paralyzed from circumcision because they seek reproachment with them. Isaac keeps telling rulers his wife is his sister and then jehova-the-shit-god intervening to warn them not to cuck him. I just don't get how anyone can follow this garbage. I just want to shove leaven bread into the mouths of Jews during passover and then shove their faces into dirt. Christians and Muslims can join in by eating the asses of the keks since that's what they've done for hundreds of years.>>25178811All of Abrahamic traditions are garbage. I read half of Koran and threw it to the side. It's just trying to induce trauma into the readers with threats and intimidation. Can't believe my ancestors read such garbage for thousand plus years.Bible is garbage too. I think John Lash Lamb's criticisms of Jewsus as an oversocialized cretin is apt, even though I don't agree with his weird Eleusinian Goddess worship cult. Faith in redemptive suffering legitimizes the infliction of suffering, a dynamic Lamb calls the victim-perpetrator bond. He's definitely on target with that.Christians rely on people being broken and beaten down to proselytize their garbage, preying on people's weaknesses. Ultimately all they do is strengthen jews. On a deeper level, Christcucks and Mudslimes are the same: slaves to jehova of the keks.Even a lot of shounen anime is better written than abrahamic garbage.
Don't want to make another theead, so: As I understand it it was a pre-occupation of monks to try and build genealogies of evil, tracing back every heresy to Zoroaster. Can anyone recommend a book on the topic?
>>25180476Well, I recommend you read Cologne Mani Codex and other recovered fragments of Manichaeism and then look at St. Augustine's criticisms of Manichaeism. Evil does not exist in Post-St. Augustine Christianity. Everything is good in various degrees, evil being merely a privation of good. Evil has no positive existence for him.Manichaeist dualism had a lot of influence from Zoroastrianism, but it was not identical. Manichaeist saw the material world as evil, materiality being a kind of shell of darkness, whereas Zoroastrians viewed the material world as good but Vohu Manah and Spenta Mainyu as helping to lead to end times (Frashokereti) to banish the evil. The main difference between Abrahamic traditions is that Manichaeists and Zoroastrians had a dualistic theodicy, and they saw evil as having a positive existence. However, Zoroastrians did have one fatalistic monist sect called Zurvanism.Catharism seems to have been influenced by Manichaeism.
>>25178804>>25178811Shill thread o algo
from tr: "bliss of childhood... warped most when we know it least". any time you're about to understand it cough cough noise noise. theft its about theft. gaddis has it, sells nothing, persuades no one then "holy shit we can sell this!" what is it thats being sold? spirit. its killed and sold. butchered and sold, mass produced. the germans its the god damn germans. it's not that you can't do it, it's that you're not allowed to do it. solitary epiphany is not allowed.jr and bast innocent. gibbs guilty. even whiteback and davidoff innocent. from "tsa great sperchul achievement . . ." to "a meaningful learning experience . . ."
I don't think it is a matter of guilt or innocence, they are all innocents, they are all naive and have no understanding of the world beyond that small bit they fill, which is the point of JR and Bast, the collision of the two sides and their respective naiveties made manifest through the naiveties of JR and Bast.There are actually more than two sides, but they are all lumped into two general sides and they switch which side they are lumped into a fair amount. Two perspectives would would be more accurate.
actual discussion, so have a bump. sorry it's been years since i've jr so i can't add anything constructive. but here's a nice little follow-up gaddis wrote for anyone who hasn't read it:https://www.williamgaddis.org/nonfiction/jrgoes.shtml
>>25175837bvmp
>>25175879Thinking on this more, Jack is not an innocent like everyone else, he understands the world but he has been pushed out of the part of it which matters to him and fallen and/or opted out of the rest. He is the one character who is not an idealist, life and being able to see how the world works has beaten every bit of idealism out of him and he clings to the idealism of others, nurtures and fosters their idealism. Or maybe he lost his idealism because he realized what a terrible writer he is, it probably played a part. Jack was probably my favorite character in the novel, and everything at the 96th street apartment was great. >>25176409>discussionOP disappeared and it will probably end up being me talking to myself again.
Bumping on the slim chance someone actually wants to discuss this with me.
