What makes something "deep"? Is this a subjective quality? Can everyone have a different and valid view of something that is deep? Does the term imply emotional or intellectual complexity? What are authors that are deep?
>>25183108>Is there any online forum to discuss books or do I have to go find a book club?I don't know of any good sites. A book club sounds like a good idea and i keep trying to push myself to join a local ond but i guess i'm shy. When i was a kid i was into these writing websites called storywrite and allpoetry. Used to be contests and you wont trophies and got points reading and commenting on the work of others to promote your pieces to the front page or host your own contest.I dont even know really how to put this but if you are anything like me then you may find your truest companionship and understanding of a person between the pages of a book. I think the reason i always wanted to be a writer is i feel misunderstood and maybe i could bare soul onto the pages more than the amount of words i could speak in this lifetime then i could find companionship with someone who no longer felt alone by reading my words and feeling a sort of companionship, a sameness not found in this world. Or if it is to be found it's a lucky few, and sonetimes we didnt realize we had a profound friendship till it was gone. I converse with the dead and myself and dogs so you probably asked the wrong guy.
>>25183135Holy shit i said companionship 4 times my bad lol
>>25179798So Rupi Kaur is deep according to your standard of literary depth?
>>25183160Not by my standard, no. What I am saying is that some teenage girl can find her deep and how would you convince her she's wrong
>>25183172By presenting an argument for an actual poet and their depth. It’s all very shallow waters with Kaur. This hypothetical girl is swimming in the kids pool with no idea that a much deeper one exists. So, comparison.
The Divine Comedy blew my mind
>>25179547Better start believing in bronze-age charlatan stories. You're in one!
>>25179773How else would you prevent the world from slipping into a free-for-all cannibal rape murder orgy unless by convincing people their actions will have inescapable consequences? That's the very opposite of evil, retard
>>25181422So in your world view order is good and chaos is bad.The African Savannah with it's unrestrained competition is the most evil place on the planet and the court where everything is in perfect control is the most good.
>>25179547imagine not knowing that your entire conceptual universe is a tiny corner within the wreckage of the bronze age
>>25179594>>25180078Add fire, lake, sheol, outer darkness to that. Hell is also a word from proto germanic not greek or hebrew. Silly first and second century Christians and 2000 years of theology lmao, check and mate.
"classic" or transformative books you were tricked into reading that were just shit? I'll start
>>25181319City of My Dreams by Fogelström. I extracted more entertainment and insight reading the back of the milk carton. I know some people like it, but I still get angry just knowing I spent time on it.
>>25181900> Emily Dickinson, Edgar Allan Poe, T.S. Eliot, all genius.Those are all nice yet still mediocre compared to the true greats of Europe like Homer, Chaucer, Boccaccio, Tolstoy. TS Eliot in particular is unreadable dreck and Poe is just lame stuff we read in school as kids.
Homer Simpson
>>25183093Leave them be. They’ve never read those you mentioned because they only read pomo slop from the US
>>25182542A taco bender will unironically tell better stories than Pynchon. Also, that's rich coming from a burger flipper. At least tacos are good and not mass produced slop. >>25183093I do agree. I was just tired this guy kept mentioning Pynchon or DeLillo as the pinnacle of literature. Poe and Eliot may not be entirely great, but are much better options than these two.Pynchon and DeLillo are to real literature what Andy Weir is to real science.Lolita is the greatest 1900s american novel and it was written by a russian.It's clear that americans just don't understand art, they are hollow and sad beings.
how do they expect me to take this guy seriously? when his whole motivation is"I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOW, I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOW, I WANNA HAVE GAY SEX NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!"?
>>25182882Isn't his motive stopping the holocaust (it worked btw)
>>25182882>>>/tv/
>>25182882you've posted this thread multiple times. it's time to let go.
>>25183005Did the holocaust not happen in Harry Potter?
>>25183194it didn't happen anywhere
Isn't "the unique one" or "the only" or "the ego", a product of society? It is produced by intercourse and womb and raised up and molded. No desires except the simplest, instinctual ones, arise within the individual, they are inputted from his world. His clothes, his language, his habits. There is also nothing the individual does per se, no more than a cell in his body does anything per se. All of his thoughts are woven from the material manufactured by countless other minds and forged by his imagination. He is constantly bombarded by messages and conditions, to have certain desires and drives and to find in these his sense of purpose. How are these subliminal or unconscious "spooks", less spooky than conscious ones? How is it that a union of individuals is a spook, but a conflicting bundle of desires and individual brain cells, is not?
>>25182295>How are these subliminal or unconscious "spooks", less spooky than conscious ones?"There is a difference whether one is determined by an other or by oneself, whether one is a living one or a reasonable one. Love lives on the principle that everyone does what he does for the sake of the other, freedom lives on the principle that he does it for his own sake""But how does love appear in the face of freedom?"Stirner, Preliminary Remarks on the Liebesstaat (pic)>How is it that a union of individuals is a spook, but a conflicting bundle of desires and individual brain cells, is not?I don't think you understand what a spook is, it is not just any idea. A spook is a concept which holds power over you because you've made it real and forgot you were the creator of that concept, that idea, and therefore its master, and therefore capable to abandon it whenever, because it holds no power. A spook is an idea that holds power of decision over you. By "you" you must understand the conscious ego, that must evaluate things for itself. >Isn't "the unique one" or "the only" or "the ego", a product of society? It is produced by intercourse and womb and raised up and molded. No desires except the simplest, instinctual ones, arise within the individual, they are inputted from his world. His clothes, his language, his habits. There is also nothing the individual does per se, no more than a cell in his body does anything per se. All of his thoughts are woven from the material manufactured by countless other minds and forged by his imagination. And when you describe things like this then, what advantage does 'Society' have over the individual more than Nature, or Reality or a God? And so what? Why? What does that have to do with anything that the child is born into the world from the world? Why would that prevent him from claiming acquiring things by himself, for himself? Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25182964(continuing)another pic from "Philosophical Reactionaries", with a rant that I likeThe hard part is always being clear about what it is to be a slave, or a master. What does it mean to be addicted, and lacking choice, or what does it mean to 'choose' something.To me it always comes clear with that question "Can you say 'no'?". It comes clear that someone addicted to drugs, or food, or TV, is simply unable to say no, and has one desire that eats up every other, It's an imbalance in a way. You could say "but if you desire that thing A(e.g. drugs) and you fulfill that desire isn't that a choice? Isn't that fine? Aren't you saying 'Yes' to it?", You are indeed right that you say yes at all times to a particular desire when you are addicted, but what makes it not a choice, is that you confront one single desire with every other you incapable to say no.Similarly, what is 'choice'? To me choice only happens with a power of evaluation and the *possibility of rejection*, it is saying Yes while having the potential to say No, otherwise it is no choice at all."Where does unselfishness begin? Right where an end ceases to be our end and our property [Eigen/um] , which we, as owners, can dispose of at pleasure; where it becomes a fixed end or a - fixed idea; where it begins to inspire, enthuse, fanaticize us; in short, where it passes into our stubbornness and becomes our - master. One is not unselfish so long as he retains the end in his power; one becomes so only at that 'Here I stand, I can do no other', the fundamental maxim of Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25182984(continuing)I'll add one last point because I have seen it being brought up against me many times.Continuously saying Yes to living in society is not proof or admission of slavery, or an argument that you should live *for* it, if you say Yes to society continuously because you recognize it benefits *you* when compared to the alternative of being a hermit or committing suicide then it is still a choice so long as you keep the power within you to end yourself at any moment you'd see society being irremediably bad, the Ultimate No, suicide. Live free
>>25182964What is the difference between doing something for another rationalized as doing it for yourself (e.g. consumerism or fighting a foreign war under conditioning from war movies or books), versus doing something for yourself while rationalizing it as doing it for another? How is the latter more spooky than the former?My conscious ego and sense of identity and reasoning is a product manufactured by thousands of years and millions of people. It does not "evaluate things for itself" in any pure sense.The Ego is not external to reality and the division of the world into self versus reality, is an illusion, which cloaks the fact that the self is a product. The idea that selfishness is good of course predates Stirner as a capitalist concept, the idea that everyone being selfish is desirable economically is already present therefore also the incentive to condition this. By being selfish, it was argued, someone does better for the economy.
Which hero from the three Greco-Roman epics is /lit/'s favorite? Picture of X-fags missing the point of the Iliad attached for entertainment purposes.
>romans try to claim descent from the trojans >brits try to claim descent from the trojans>america by extension has to lay some sort of claim to descent from the trojansWhy did the rest of the west side with the trojans over the Greeks?
>>25182980Because if you remember the Iliad it is foretold that Aeneas can’t die because he’s foretold to found a great kingdom after Troy falls and everyone wanted to tie themselves to that Homeric prophecy.
>>25178878No one runs away more from a fight in the Iliad than Hector. An illustrative example is when Hector goads two guys to help him wrest Achilles' horses from Automedon, one gets killed, and he withdraws.
>>25182685Zeus lifted the ban on immortal intervention in the war because with no intervention Achilles would have taken Troy before it was fated. Zeus says this explicitly.
>>25182974The first half mirrors The OdysseyThe second half mirrors The IliadIf you think about the plot, you'll get it. He is undoing the conquest of Troy.
Monsters, Dragons, Beasts, Creatures, Horrors, and Miscellaneous Lifeforms Edition Version 2: Magical and/or Alien BoogalooFAQ:>What is worldbuilding?Worldbuilding is the process of creating entire fictional worlds from scratch, all while considering the logistics of these worlds to make them as believable as possible. Worldbuilding asks questions about the setting of a world, and then answers them, often in great detail. Most people use it as a means of creating a setting or the scenery for a story.>"Isn't there a Worldbuilding general in >>>/tg/ already?"Yes, there is. However, that general is focused on the creation of fictional worlds for the intended purpose of playing TTRPG campaigns. Here you can discuss worldbuilding projects that are not meant to be used for a roleplaying setting, but for novels, videogames, or any other kind of creative project.>"Can I discuss the setting of my campaign here, though?"If you want to, but it would probably be better to discuss it on >>>/tg/ . We don't allow the discussion of TTRPG mechanics, however. If you want to discuss stats or which D&D edition is best, this is not the place.>"Can I talk about an existing fictional setting that is not mine?"Yes, of course you can!>"Does worldbuilding need to be about fantasy and elves?"Worldbuilding, as already stated above, and contrary to what many believe, does not inherently imply blatantly copying Tolkien. In fact, there are many science-fiction setting out there, and even entire alternative history settings which do not possess supernatural elements at all. Any kind of science fiction book has an implied setting at least, which involves a certain degree of worldbuilding put into it.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25183027Yeah, the entire point is that being able to see the future let's you determine it. That's why giving everyone prophecy is one of the two solutions to the Kwisatz Haderach Problem. Someone who can see the future has basically infinite tries to get any possible outcome. And "possible" is a very big word when cause and effect have ceased to be an issue.
>>25183048But the character may not be able to perfectly follow the route he had planned in advance, and there may not be any possible route to some things. For example, taking over the entire nation or winning an Olympic gold medal may be literally impossible from someone not starting from a good initial position or require such an absurd sequence of precise actions that it becomes unrealistic to remember them all and execute them exactly as planned.
>>25183067He gets infinite tries. You could say that he's basically just jumping consciousness from one "Point" to another. It's true, some things are simply impossible to do even for a prophet. If I walk into the ring with prime Mike Tyson with nothing more than prophecy on my side, all that will accomplish is to let me see the beating ahead of time. But prophecy means I will never have to walk into the ring in the first place, or to let me figure out a way to bribe or threaten him into taking a fall. And while that's not an insurmountable advantage, it's still a major one.
>>25183106You are diverging really hard from the standard dictionary meaning of prophecy, by the way.It would be really strange to be someone capable of living an infinite lifetimes in one life. They could watch a movie, reset, watch a different movie, reset again, etc., and finally get bored of that and go to work like they were supposed to. Doing something like successfully becoming the president of the United States would be such a colossal undertaking though that I could very easily see someone getting bored of life before succeeding. Or they could eventually become the president, decide that it wasn't a fun career choice, and reset to try to become a famous musician or a lottery winner instead.
>>25183158Precisely. I presume that from the PoV of the Prophet, there's no real difference whether your consciousness is following a linear path or not. So what if your life from point B1 (original timeline) that you have "lived through" never happened? B2 is better. Or B3, or B4....all the way to Bn, where n is however many futures you could have created.
Nature is a whore, indifferent and cold, that only rewards mindless aggressiveness.That's why an illiterate low-IQ subhuman in some third world favela, is able to get a hot skinny girlfriend and impregnate her with his genes.While you, with all your books, knowledge and refinement, will die as a lonely and miserable incel
>>25183085>>25183105Hey Faggots,My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
>>25183136Escorts don't count, friend
>>25183105>It’s classic externalization: instead of asking “what could I improve?”, he blames biology, society, and imaginary “low-IQ rivals.”Reminds me of this essay by Umberto Eco:https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/>8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.
>>25183156How is this different from being a lefty and seething about “the rich” having luxuries and the jews being evil because of crying brownoids?
>>25183156I do not think people with both honor and intelligence use this type of rhetoric. Maybe in lacking only one or the other and not necessarily both.Or maybe it is a simple psychological need to hold onto a belief?I guess everyone, or most people, justify their choices to avoid paradigm shift. It's easier to paint over a crack in a wall then to repair it and the foundation.
I remember school and university, where trying to get good grades and paying attention in class made teachers and other students think I'm a nerd, when I would actually just study, say, math on my own, with a tutor, in class, read about it online and still barely pass exams and testsI easily learned english as a child, but when it came to learning a third foreign language in school I was very below average, one of the worst students in my group, it was humiliatingI've now tried to learn a few languages (French, German, Latin, Spanish, Russian, probably a few others I've forgotten too) and I've struggled with them a lot, even studying every day for 3 hours (I did manage to keep up that pace) would generally not net me anything. it doesn't help that there are so many charlatans in the language learning "hobby space" that you don't even know what "method" to use while learning a language. probably the worst thing is that language learning communities are full of intelligent people who have many languages under their belts and this is their special interest and you can't compare yourself to themI like reading books and don't really like video games or TV, so I spend a large chunk of my free time reading. I know a bit about history, philosophy, things like this which automatically make other people think you're intelligent, but it's a bit of an illusion and I've disappointed pretty much every teacher I've had in my life. in general I am a pretentious failure who is well read enough, knows about history, philosophy and thinks he's intelligent, so I can discuss things with other people, but honestly, with the philosophy that I've read it's more that I memorized the logic but don't actually understand anything at all. it would take one actually intelligent person who's read enough as me to show that I'm just a complete fraud and retardI'm too stupid and lazy to ever learn another language
>>25181488A wise man can speak his mind plainly for the entire room to understand. A foolish man will wrap around his thought with poetic and abstract language attempting to explain how it's intelligent to not know ones own mind and thoughts.Bruv spit it out. You don't know what you're thinking, just admit it and then move forward. no need for pretentious foolery.
>>25183092>your social performance has nothing to do with how smart you areholy mother of cope
>>25183092If you were really smart you'd be able to trick women into sleeping with you
Read Mere Christianity's chapter on pride
>>25183169or was it Screwtape Letters? I'm pretty sure both speak of pride so read both.
I keep hearing how Shakespeare stole from other works before himHow true is this?Which works specifically did he steal from?
>>25180498What word would you use instead?
He was was a thief, and that's why he was great. Most people can only copy.
>>25180866Not that anon, but no one who's actually involved in literary analysis or publishing uses the word theft. That's an amateur word born out of inexperience. The closest you get among publishers is that they'll accuse you of plagiarism if you copied, or they might call it derivative if it follows the work of someone else closely without adding anything important. But if you take one story, and you put it in a new context, or you change some part of it so the outcome is different, then it isn't considered theft. For example, if I were to take Star Trek, but I put the story in the renaissance with a regular ol' wooden ship, and the crew is sailing along coasts of unknown countries to establish trade connections with them, then it isn't theft. It would be called literary transposition and would be considered legitimate, provided it brought new consequences to the story. If it's just transposition of show after show with no change to the story, then it's derivative. When Tolkien takes the dwarven names from the Edda and places all of them in his work verbatim, it's still not theft. All art is built on previous art (except perhaps the cave hand paintings of a fucking cow or whatever). Talking about theft because one writer used concepts from another writer will get you laughed out of whatever literary circle you're in.
>>25181483I see
>>25180251>and many othersWhich others?
I'm interested in discussing and exploring the potential for the internet to present a novel form of literature, namely in the form of stories that are:1. written to a high standard (i.e., respecting the literary craft)2. written, read and interacting with in real-timeThere are some examples of this, both in a literary sense and a non-literary one (e.g., Cicada 3301).I'm aware of web novels (written in installments/updates, like serialized novels), hypertext (literary works published online which include hyperlinks to aid the story and take advantage of instance access to external information). What I am interested in however are stories (focusing on mystery and/or horror) which begin and expand in real-time, with the readers playing an ongoing role in determining (to whatever extent) the narrative direction, exploring the story independently of the author (i.e., helping to "solve" the mystery, discussing the characters, motivations, plot, problems) and taking part in a kind of collective reading experience. I see a lot of potential here which, to my knowledge, has not been taken advantage of yet.Would anyone like to discuss this with me?
>>25181979>>25181989Thanks for that. I've read a little about hypertexts, and what is interesting is that many of them are studied in colleges etc (e.g., The Waves of Girls) but never really reached a wide audience.>>25181991Thanks - these seem to be conspicuously fictional however, in the sense that there is no effort to present the story as potential real, which is what I was trying to get at here. I'm thinking about a story that begins as a simple thread about some mundane if a little weird chance encounter or something, which develops into something more serious and sinister over the course of several threads. Ben Drowned seems to be something along those lines, as I'm reading about it.
You should look into alternate reality games OP. That's essentially what you're describing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM
>>25181993>these seem to be conspicuously fictional however, in the sense that there is no effort to present the story as potential real, which is what I was trying to get at here. Well, the main thing apart from the realness seemed to be the audience participation aspect, and Problem Sleuth & Homestuck were for the most part very heavily audience-driven, due to presenting itself like a quasi adventure game with a text interface when they were live and running. A character from Homestuck once had a blog running, there's a comic-within-a-comic with Homestuck, and there were live treasure hunts around it.Apart from the "plausibly real", "currently running" and the proportion of author-to-audience authorship, it's pretty much going to be exactly what you were looking for.The problem with the majority audience participation angle, is that if you've never roleplayed before, you've never encountered people who want to participate but don't Get It. Your idea is great sofar as only people who Get It participate. But without that, you immediately degenerate into garbage. So it is unfortunately a non-starter, which is why Actually Done narratives have heavy author direction and control.>>25181991>Homestuck is mostly a waste of time with some good sprinkled in.I said it was the final boss of postmodernism for a reason. It ended like shit intentionally because the torch was *supposed* to be passed to the MSPA readers to find some way to fix the story and its obviously dangling threads, after Lord English ruined the narrative (notice that the only characters who could have possibly stood up to him, Eridan and Jake, were completely maligned by the narrative, and Lord English is in control of the narrative that maligns them).Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25181559every single thread on this website is already a hypertext novel and that's just 4chan. the question of single authorship kills the idea, the point of a self-contained vision is the vision, and the print novel is the best form for that. trying to introduce an author's frame into hypertext is having your cake and eating it too, and i'd argue it's a relic of early digital age people thinking the future would be exactly like the past with shinier lights, much like curators who treat video art like it's a painting with sound and motion
I just started reading this, and it's fantastic. I only regret that I got the 2024 version, with a foreword by Patton Oswald seething about the evils of internet trolls. I'm on "Riders of the Purple Wage" right now, and it's excellent.
>>25183151Probably gonna be worth some serious bucks some day if it's in pristine condition.
>>25183152Wait Asimov's himself was 1.75 meter so how short was Harla.....Holy kek. He was that short?
>>25183153It's not...the cover has big chunks torn out of it. However the previous owner cared enough to put it in a plastic sleeve to preserve what's left of it. Most of it is intact. I bought it for...$40 CAD, I think? From a used bookstore.
>>251831575'4" I'm afraid.>>25183159Still a nice artifact nonetheless.
>>25183159*by cover I mean dust jacket, ofc
are there any pop-science books you've enjoyed?
>>25182777>Not an argument.An unfortunate waste of trips.
>>25182792Submissive sycophants like you deserve to have their heads crushed with a mallet.
>>25182809U mad bro.
>>25182643It's not hyperbole, you get mad and wanted a strawman to take down.>This is literally the same argument for the "addictive" nature of social media.So ice cream is the same as heroin. Damn you're so smart! Really helpful to blur everything so now we consider ice cream and heroin as being in the same categorie. Thanks for muddying the waters.>libertarian theoryI wipe my ass with your theory, so does the rest of the world.>gambling just didn't exist before the state legalized itIt's about volume, dumb gorilla nigger. Is that the next thing you're going to blur? Some people gambled in Las Vegas so nothing changed when every human could gamble on the go from their phone 24/7 on literally everything.>Just don't use themHow about we ban them? Works better.>when are you going to stop using 4chan?Never. Do I need to point out the difference between a 4chan and an Instagram? I guess Meta just pumps money into research to keep you hooked for nothing since it´s just the same as an imageboard. Hey you should contact Mark Zuckerberg! You're a very clever guy and you should tell him he's wasting his money!
>>25183104>It's not hyperbole, you get mad and wanted a strawman to take down.Says the fag that cries and throws around threats of violence on the Internet lmfao.>So ice cream is the same as heroin. Damn you're so smart!A difference in degree is not a difference in kind. In principle both would be addictions (provided you buy into the dopamine argument used against social media) even if they vary in their "seriousness." And since when were we comparing ice cream to heroin? I was comparing ice cream to social media, which is the actual subject at hand.>I wipe my ass with your theory, so does the rest of the world.You and the rest of the world are total clowns. Which is why the world is shit.>Some people gambled in Las Vegas so nothing changed when every human could gamble on the go from their phone 24/7 on literally everything.That has more to do with the availability of the services provided by the Internet. Which doesn't have much to do with legalization. Piracy is illegal, yet tons of people do it because the Internet makes it easy to do.>How about we ban them? Works better.Again, privacy is illegal, how's that working out? And the erring reason binds, if someone comes to particular conclusion, like say placing bets on an app, it's immoral to use force to negate that person's judgement. If someone makes a bad decision as a result of their own poor judgement, it's up to them, no one else, to deal with the consequences. In fact by resorting to force, you're implicitly saying that you have no argument against it, and thus have no valid grounds to claim that you know better.>Never. Do I need to point out the difference between a 4chan and an Instagram?Let's look at the definitions of social media provided by the Cambridge English dictionary, shall we...>websites and computer programs that allow people to communicate and share information, opinions, pictures, videos, etc. on the internet, especially social networking websites:>forms of media that allow people to communicate and share information using the internet or mobile phones:Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
You have eyes but failed to see Mount Tai! EditionStubbed >>25172742>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>/wng/ authors.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>25183042fortunately this isn't a matter of opinion, it's factual and easily verified by going on waybackmachine
I will write a story where my (female) (sexy elf) mc attends her second year at a (female) magic academy and slowly notices that all of her sexy elf classmates seem very strange this year.There is the new classmate who seems to unstandard none of the basic things about the world, shudders knowingly whenever anybody mentions death, and keeps making cryptic cultural references to that only she understands.There is the classmate who knows what everybody will say before they say it, is suicidally careless with her own life, and is inexplicably more talented than she was the prior year.There is the classmate who has changed drastically from the prior year, keeps making ominous references to the distant future, and who knows more than she should about evil lich magic.There is the classmate who seems to think this is all some sort of game, keeps disappearing to go on "quests" and references a "system".There is the classmate may have found a powerful object in the library and who now seems to feature in every single prophecy spell the class attempts to cast now. And others.
>ElfslopDropped.
>elfslopcute!
>>25183047mary sue death games would be kinodrop the magic academy setting and go battle royale
Are the Eton, Oxbridge English upper crust still this smart and literate? Or have they been watered down like everyone else?
>>25182470NTA, although De Quincey was likely an exception rather than the rule, if I recall a teacher says of him that he would better argue with an Athenian mob than he (the teacher) could in English. But I am sure that on the whole, they were probably more proficient than one would be today. A privately educated teenager probably had more knowledge than classicists of today. I did my undergrad in the Classics, and my Latin is by no means impressive. My Greek is better but that's because I have intentionally spent time learning and reading in my own time as a hobby.
>>25181479They're too busy buggering freshers
>>25181479They don't study the classics anymore in primary or secondary. They get taught by karens and spend their free time aping Tiktok
>>25181479I've heard all the universities in the UK now aim to admit as many foreign students as they can because they're allowed to charge them more. Not sure if that's actually true, however.
>>25182850This is half true, my younger brother is at Cambridge (he’s 31) and they DEI hired a very inept professor who according to him can’t even speak in front of an audience without standing frozen and stuttering for the first 5 minutes. I like to think some there are at least trying to keep about themselves some degree of forbearance. Not expecting pure asceticism but I’m still an optimist (except when I’m not) even in the face of hopelessness.
