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Why is it that all great minds of antiquity thought that love was more than a crude neurochemical reaction? Would they have been redpilled if they were alive after the 20th century when advancement in chemistry demonstrated that love/eros is basically just a powerful drug? Honestly explains many things about the current perception of love in relation to modernity.
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>>24946457
>Maybe it's American capitalist brainrot, but here, in Estonia
Actually you’re on point here. The state of “relationships” in the US is, well, awful. I look at my married friends and envy none of them; ALL of their wives are terrible imo, but that’s what they settled for and their reward is constant anxiety and weekly therapy sessions with their wives. I’d share the bleak perspective of some of the anons here if I didn’t travel as much as I do outside the country. Remember, here in the US most children come from a broken family/a non two-parent household, so things are kind of fucked here.
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>>24949606
it's not like the wives are living it up. most wives resent their husbands. that said, it's not like marriages outside of the west are "happier", people just don't feel entitled to be happy. marriage is just something u endure like childbirth or old age.
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>>24949611
>marriage is just something u endure like childbirth or old age
And in that endurance I claim you find examples of love. The average American can’t endure anything anymore which is why relationships and marriages are tanking.
When I was backpacking in Southern Europe, I would regularly see both the man and the woman of the house working together in the villages, husband chopping wood, wife wheelbarrowing things here and there. In East Asia, I routinely saw elderly couples greatly taking care of each other. In Korea I saw an old man, maybe in his 80s, basically carrying his disabled wife in Seoul as they went out to eat. To me, this is true love (and also, a very cute memory to recall).
You don’t find these examples as often in the US since we have a culture of avoiding any kind of struggle. Take weight loss, Americans cannot even bear the act of dieting and exercising, so they have to resort to ozempic or stay fat. How can a person who can’t even handle the stress of eating slightly less manage the ups and downs of a relationship? Answer: they can’t. So the culture is to leave the relationship and find another one. It parallels the consumer/disposal culture we have…if you don’t like something just throw it away and buy another one. Or in the case of a person, breakup/divorce and chalk it up as “oh yeah my ex was abusive”.
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>>24949776
Forgot to add this example: in the US, if your parent is old and needs care, the culture is to dump them into an assisted-care facility and calls it a day; taking care of your elderly parents is too much of a burden for the average American.
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>>24945823
This might be the most based post I have read on this website

How does modern technology change Spengler's predictions? He probably didn't see europe becoming 30% foreigners by 2025 too.
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>>24948365
ty
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>>24948148
More importantly, why do people discredit horoscopes? Ancient people believed these schizos for centuries. Military plans that were drawn up for the Hundred Years' War was influenced by astrology. Charting patterns within the stars lead to practical applications like navigation and Newtonian science
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>>24948399
>I'm not enjoying it
>I want to finish it.

Where is this audience that you are reading the 1920s bald chud for anon?
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>>24949492
Contemporary horoscopes/astrology is targeted to retarded women with pig shit for brains.
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>>24947777
Checked

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>what if... the bad guy, um, like rapes and kills and such?
The Judge is a cartoony villain, something you'd find in an Alan Moore comic like The Killing Joke.
How does anyone take American letters seriously when you realise the entire McCarthy Universe (MCU) was just made to be a backend of Hollywood slop adaptations?
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>>24948960

>Why are you brining your own moralism to a work of art that doesn't express such sentiments itself?
Because you're meant to, as a basic reasoning human with a mature moral framework. You are supposed to be able to develop your own interpretation of a text, morally and otherwise, without the author spoonfeeding you. Were you feeling lost in 1984 until Winston says "Big Brother is evil, I hate him!"? Must have come as some relief.

If it walks like a duck, and flys like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Even if the author doesn't say it is one, it still fulfills the same narrative purpose. You're so busy trying to read 2 levels deep about how the judge is some otherworldly force that you can't see he's also a basic evil piece of shit. Nor does the one stop the other from being true, the perspective are meant to inform and add new insight to one another.


>>24948991
>Villains have to have defined philosophies
Why? It's a story, with philosophical asides, not a greek dialogue. Stuff just happens. Sometimes the bad guys just get shot. How does that support the "good guy creed" philosophically?
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this thread convinced me to never read blood meridian
ty op
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>>24948674
I think this would be 10x better than any earnest attempt at adapting it. Give it the Starship Troopers treatment.
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>>24948853
Essays aren’t art if your definition of art excludes the substantive. I’ve read essays more engaging, edifying, and sonically satisfying than much of the tripe that pretends to art.
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Bet you haven't read Suttree his masterpiece. Im reading Crossing right now and its amazing.

Two Weeks Left Edition

>Old:
>>24936611

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
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>>24949335
Awesome. Thank you, I'll be going through all this soon.
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Continuing a thought from the last thread, I finished Port of Shadows from Glen Cook. Legitimately the worst book I've finished - I should have DNF'd halfway through. I hate saying that because the Black Company he wrote 40 odd years ago was just so fucking good and this felt like a teenage ghostwriter taking over the reins. A story of no consequence without character growth, action, good prose or generally anything interesting happening at all. To any and all people hoping to read this book series, just skip Port of Shadows. Your time is worth more than what this book has to offer.

Has anyone read Lies Weeping? Is it closer to the Black Company we all know and love or is it closer to this mess? Should we all just stick to the old stuff from here on out?
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the more I think about these books the more I realise they're perfect...
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What are my thoughts on Le Guin and Abercrombie?
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>fuck Liesander
No, fuck Alexander

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I just realized that it would be impossible for the so called polyglots of literature to be fluent in all the languages they wrote.
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>>24949691
>my argument is that I'm fluent in english because of spending 15 years on 4chan talking daily, and before that I spend 3 years studying it, and 4 years more using the english internet.
>Claiming that you can reach fluency is not possible for more than 3-4 languages.
thats a resonable argument , I kind of agree in the context of the normal paradime , but I do think thier is problably an underexplored world of language , the mytical true polygot, that being said , for me to say any Autor is one of those would be silly.

most polygots agree with you preposition at least , or the intent anyway.

what they do is just reach the minimun for fluency aggressively , is not entirely the same as learning english , since that is the verry important globohomo lanaguage.

imaging talking with someone who only knows 30% greek , but they are very clever in using that 30% , thats how it goes for them.

I think they could be larpers , their is a reason I compared polyglots to tarot.

although , if I had to guess , I would assume they are the type of larper who is semi decent at one part of the language (that being writing) and just over inflates their abilities a ton.


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>>24949693
Bunch of Chinese poetry written by Japanese people who could read and write Chinese but not speak it. Much of it's not great, but the best is pretty damn good.
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>>24949602
it's not hard to learn a language if you already know some of it and you spend your time reading books or watching film instead of doomscrolling 4chins endlessly です
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>>24949716
That's why I have a rule that I don't use the Internet in my native language on Mondays and Fridays, to force me to practice other languages.
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>>24949602
who ios this huggable cutie?

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This book changed my life for the better
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>>24949782
The vast majority of women like rough sex. Sorry you're a beta but you should know whatever girl you end up with has been fucked wild and sex with you pretty much amounts to settling.
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>>24949800
[delusion intensifies]
OK Mr Rapey
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>>24949782
He sounds like a sadist but he is at least right that women prefer a hard fucking to tender loving, in most cases. Since women are absolutely NEVER honest about this it is pointless to ask them what they want in bed. You're better off just assuming they want it harder. If she doesn't feel it in the morning, you didn't really try. That's the impression I get anyway.
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>>24949090
And not only that, their orgasm doesn't matter according to the bigger picture
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>>24949463
You first

>is arguably the single most racist author in American history
>marries a Jewish woman
What did HP Lovecraft mean by this?
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>>24946601
He needed a wife that funded him because he could barely take care of himself. Had he remained single he probably would have starved and died even earlier.
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Because political extremism is often the byproduct of mental escapism caused by lack of social interactions and prolonged sexual deprivation. The moment niggerman got a whiff of poon, he did a 180 and started to write to Howard about how childish he was.
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>>24946605
he enjoyed it greatly though
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>>24947083
>That Timmy
This thread lacks Lovecraft quotes.
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>>24949793
>It is a mistake to allow Jews to mingle with Aryans as social equals.
Poor Howie still couldn't resist the temptation of that Yiddish pussy.

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There is a fascinating, digressive chapter in Hugo's Notre-Dame de Paris about how architecture was once the main form of expression of human thought and how the invention of the printing press put an end to this.
Are there any other books about this topic? The intersection of philosophy and architecture? And was Hugo even correct?
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>>24947730
Without the excuse of religion i do feel we tend to build very little of the kind of monumental architecture where the whole space can be made subservient to a single concept. Skyscrapers are neat but ultimately as aesthetic statements they are often kind of bland, their insides homogeneous office floors. Very little going on there conceptually outside of 'hehe tall'

The kind of buildings architects now usually use to express their grand masterpieces are musea, opera houses, libraries, or other large freestanding public buildings, although even these rarely have the pure monumentality of religious buildings since they still need to be functional spaces.
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>>24947730
That's because the meme of SOULLESS and UGLY new buildings aren't referring to chinese skyscrapers.
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Architecture used to mean something, post modernism destroyed it as it destroys everything though.
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>>24945477
My dad is an architect; I'll tell him about this.
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>>24949464
We still very much do build monumental architecture, countries even waste more money than is needed for building a structure that's essentially temporary (the Olympic stadiums for an example). The thing is outside of shitty third world nations, our great architectures are no longer religious sites. For one, religion is no longer the center worldview & cultural glue for most people in the world. And second, the world is globalized now so building a religious structure will alienate many people. Instead we build monumental architecture for something more universal & inclusive to all nations like museums, sports stadiums, or theatres.

In case any anons wondering what the buildings in the pic are
>Louvre Pyramid
>Beijing Bird's Nest
>Sydney Opera House
>Museum of the Future

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>december 2025
>novel still unfinished
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It's just me and you, anon
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35k word of my first draft. Life's good. I am writing chapter 21 of it as we speak. I expect 27 or 29 chapters, so I am almost done with the first draft.
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I've got 50k words down and I'm probs not even a third done. It's fun but I know I'm gonna need to write another draft which is kind of disheartening
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>>24948774
If you find an activity intensely difficult, it's usually because you have no aptitude for it.
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>>24948774
>ok OP what is your book about, please enlighten me

sansa edition

ASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page
Blog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/
Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/
So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/
Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/
SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdy
General search: http://searcherr.work/
TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chapters

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First for Rhaenyra and her cute son!
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>>24949686
Name a more based king
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>>24949686
Do you think GRRM runs a tube up his ass to provide additional calories or did he get that fat by strictly mouth feeding alone?

Follow up question:
What percentage of his brain has been replaced by fat and why is it all of it?
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>>24949698
Can’t imagine Osha would have wildlings ceremony with her husband, Rickon?
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>>24949786
Rickon will be married to the daughter of some of the Skagosi houses unfortunely

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How do you actually overcome post-modernism?
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>>24948591
Its a religion
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>>24949037
You don't know any Christian nationalists
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>>24948572
I mean, there is no “overcoming” postmodernity because every form of resistance or escape is reincorporated back into the system as a kitsche regress into one dated fantasy or another. There are no new solutions because all horizons of possibility are accounted for, all we can do is play in the rubble of civilisation.
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>>24949568
Explain how it is like or dislike Socrates
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>>24949778
>t. pseud
NTA. You seriously can't figure it out for yourself?

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Overrated or deserving of praise?
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>>24949021
He's just a blowhard. You can do the same thing by believing every thought in your head deserves to be heard.
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>>24948849
The only short stories I read of him are his magnum opus and "Repent, Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman, the latter I didn't like. I can't say whether or not he's overrated but he definitely deserves some praise for his cultural impact. He's an interesting person to listen to for being a lone Jew from Ohio. His take on Israel and the greater ME is interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6gtHQGbXmM
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>>24949750
>both sides are bad
He didn't need to tell a 7 minute story to say that
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>>24949764
He questions the lineage of Jews today and insinuates that they, along with the rest of the inhabitants of the ME, are subhumans who can only kill each other and that the rest of the world needs to forget about them and stop trying to intervene.
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>>24949750
I actually quite liked Repent, Harlequin. It was a funny satirical story, it’s a pretty basic “authoritarianism mad mmkay?” kind of story but his writing style is entertaining.

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What magazines are /lit/?
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>>24949435
Kek. Binked ya, huh? No worries. The anons who want to read will follow my advice and have the opportunity to learn about new, interesting writers.
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>>24948737
>Harper's
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harpers is based as fuck, it generates so much seethe
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>>24949618
>still won't name any magazines
you're full of shit
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>>24949696
>this guy does more than me
>if he won't tell me every detail of every thing he does, he's full of shit

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>>24945318
do you think brits, french, etc. are annoyed that they had powerful world-spanning empires but didn't make it onto one of the big circles on the weirdo conspiracy chart.
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>>24945551
He didn't even actually believe in God or the divinity of Jesus Christ, all just metaphorical Geist movement and mutual recognition shenanigans with him
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>>24949187
>It was much later when I realized that Kierkegaard’s conception of the Christian condition actually makes Christianity quite appealing as Jesus Christ is not a reincarnation of God, but God Himself and knew what it was to be human and be tempted as He lived on earth.
That's literally just the default Christian position, anon. That is Christianity.
>Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
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>>24945026
>>24947525
St. Augustine's Confessions was also key for me. Compared to any modern reading, this book is a breath of fresh air. It's my treasure. I shift through it again once every year. It's a paraphrased quote by him that we must put "faith before reason." This sounds crazy to an intellectual person, I know, but once we choose to believe, all the correct, good and true reasons will be revealed to us as God sees fit. He doesn't want us to be unreasoning beasts, of course not, but He does ask faith from us and that we will ourselves to believe. Pray first for faith and then everything else will simply follow. This is the leap of faith that most of all is a stumbling stone for those who value reason above all. Put faith before your reason. God bless anons.
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>>24947628
Thank you. It's unlikely he'll listen, but somebody needs to state some facts. The sola scriptura kind gives Christians a bad name, unfortunately. It's unintellectual and also unhistorical.

Faoiseamh a gheobhadsa
Seal beag gairid
I measc mo dhaoine
Ar oileán mara,
Ag síul cois cladaigh
Maidin is tráthnóna
Ó Luan go Satharn
Thiar ag baile.

Faoiseamh a gheobhadsa
Seal beag gairid
I measc mo dhaoine,
Ó chrá croí,
Ó bhuairt aigne,
Ó uaigneas duairc,

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>>24948992
Jabba wanin cheeco-wa rush anye katanye wanaruska, heh heh heh.
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>>24949527
Fan fad fút
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>>24948992
>Irish Gaelic
Based
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>>24949641
>Irish Gaelic
>Aran Islands
American much?
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>>24949770
Irish Gaelic uses the acute accent (á), Scottish Gaelic uses the grave accent (à). Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?


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